i had a nasus crying about playing a rangedtop while i was playing tresh. no exception for a salty toplaner. anyways ranged tops are super vulnerable to higher lvl all ins and to ganks you just have to accept falling behind to punish them later and hope your jungle is not too bad.
There is just something absolutly beautiful about just seeing one of the most disgusting champs get clapped hard by none other than Thresh, he just has a way of slapping annoying demacians around.
This reminds me of old LoL when it wasn't as restrictive as it is now. Ahhh sweet memory of playing AP old Sion and experimenting builds on other champs. Good old highschool days.
I have stopped playing lol for a long time, but it's always good to watch u this optimistic, it pains me to see a franchise this poorly handled by corporate who don't care about you xd
Same, I barely play like one game every month and a half because the over competitive environment and eveyone being needlessly assholish makes the game feel like crap I feel like if they should realize that just because they aren't going to see their team again after the game is over doesn't mean they need to be so toxic
@@alejandropetit6573 also the feeling of not progressing, or like Cryo said, not being rewarding, cuz you may win a game, but did you win it with luck? Or skill? Or actually playing with your "team"? And even if you did all that, for what? 16 Lp? This game is such a joke, the fact that you have to go over and over the same garbage become boring, the only saving grace to this game for me is the lore, AND I HOPE THEY DON'T SCREW THIS UP
I saw the cover for this video with the whole "we're being carried by a thresh lol" and legit had a similar scenario not too long ago. It was really weird, but man did it feel amazing.
Love to see having someone do to a Vayne Player what I could never do. Also great how Vayne got outmanuvered hit with an Ult and wasnt full HP like you yet she still was supprised to loose... Says alot about Vayne as a Charakter
Top lane is the lane that allows you to keep your sanity. Jungle -> everyone flames you whatever you do Mid -> you can get swated by bot supp and jgl at same time Adc -> 2v2 always having to be on guard against morg blitz and such supp or just the jungler overall, not a very relaxing and fun experience Supp -> one of the hardest and important roles and still one of the most under rated, so even if you do something good, the other player you're supporting will get the "glory" of it.
I feel like no role comes without it's caveats. Top suffers awfully with Counterpick syndrome and being frozen on in such a long lane can be devastating. I also feel like no role is really the hardest, as all roles have unique jobs that it would be unfair to judge. I feel in general, lack of team play, forgiveness and a lack of general knowledge contributes heavily to toxicity in low elo League. People are merciless to mistakes, whilst not placing any attention to things that would better understand scenarios. (For example: Complaining about match-ups, your Vlad mid will never roam against an Ekko, Ahri or Akali who can out push the lane and use their mobility roam, whilst Vlad needs to scale and can't give up a wave without being punished by being weak) Or Jungler's complaining about having to give up their camps to allies or Laners not understanding lane swaps, Supports and Jungler's not understanding wave management, Laners lacking jungle pathing knowledge etc. Player's tend to be the stressful thing in League, more than the game itself.
top lanes relaxing until your counter picked or have to face a ranged top laner that bullies you. from then on its gonna be 247 hell since the rest of the team doesnt even know top exists and wont even think about ganking your lane to help you gain an advantage against em
idk what elo you're in but Vayne players where I am just sort of expect to win, especially in top lane. Really funny to see them get outplayed and rage
@@tia714 omg kayle support is so fun! Also if you guys want an off meta not duo go sejuani ashe the slows cc and engage is insanely fun and kind of toxic for the enemy team lol.
@@dragonsreingsupreme1 I use Neeko mid for when the enemy mid picks my Ahri. It's a bit of a skill matchup on both sides, but I like playing it from Neekos side
@@tia714 Idk about that. Not that Kayle support isn't good or anything But Neeko ADC is very much a lane-bully and needs to win early to be relevant. I guess I could take lethal tempo instead of pta for better scaling, but still. I'd love to have an off-meta support with some earlygame power though.
On the support issues. As a support main, ADCs aren’t worth supporting anymore/don’t trust you anyway. So now we go damage and roam to help better lanes. Enchanters are dead in low ELOs. Like when I play Glasc and W my ADC 90% of the time they do a 180 and leave combat.
Cryo has literally become the last bastion for me of safe chill league. I love league because I'm attached to the lore but the community hurts to be a part of so I'm glad to at least still have one decent human. Actually does anyone have any recommendations for creators like cryo? Edit: thanks everyone for all the recommendations I have a lot to check out now :)
thresh is beautifull designed. you can mess up sooo hard with him but if you know what youre doing you can carry your team as either dd or supp or both at the same time
I feel like people forget Thresh haa ranged autos- especially when its an adc or mage thinking they can free range in traditional ranges but just get slapped by Thresh.
Off Meta custom games sound fun. only question is what is considered off Meta when there are otps that reach master/challenger with picks most people would think of as trolling?
"Gay elk" reminds me of a teachers note. Guy's daughter had a note from the teacher that she had called a boy " a hanzo main" and while she didn't understand what that meant, it was clearly meant as an insult"
It just isn't really worth it, partly because of the ranged nerf, but also because splitpushing too hard with Thresh almost always gets you killed; doesn't suit his playstyle tbh.
i think a lot of the reason it feels like you never win a game, the enemy just loses it is because most people who play this game, especially around our mmr constantly play like they're ahead and act way too aggro so when they fall behind they just kind of feed or overextend instead of adapting to the new game state. i'm in the predicament where i generally play a lot safer and have better macro than most but i have really shit mechanics so i do best playing champs that can punish mistakes and pray that none of the other lanes feed harder than the enemy into me. i feel like 90% of the time if i go even in lane the game is lost because one of the other lanes ints 5 (10 if it's bot lane) kills over and there's not much i can do to affect the state of the game at my current skill level
i main soraka and i always want my adc to be alive obviously if he is not an idiot but more often than not they just go right into the enemy to die....
NA goldies in the comments calling ranged "beta" My men would be having a mental breakdown if they faced Quinn or Vayne as a Nasus. I was a Nasus main between 2013-2015 early and learned to face a teemo(ranged in general) 2/3 of my games. But what can I ask from Juggernauts mains...it's Darius only 4 them.
I’ve played league but have had a differing level of age and skill and perspective across other mobas and games. I still have fun in league. I know it’s sin. But I love eing somebody as so many old champs and new champs (wild how a lot of fun abilities are on E) I do agree there are a lot of unfun and very intense vibechecks within league. I still think fun can be possible. I also have sm more time to burn then the average person rn which is a privilege but. Idk is it really that much of a sin to smile after a game of league?
2:32 I feel like it's not so much that players have less control, more like...less answers? Like if you're in the acting role, great, good for you, you have an infinite amount of options, but if you're *reacting* the game basically tells you your SoL. "Maybe next time don't get put into a reactionary position, f*cking idiot." Kinda vibes...?
Wait wait wait. They took out _all purchasable wards??!_ Yeah, glad I quit this game years ago then. Left for pretty much the same reason: felt like I was having less and less of a direct impact on the game’s outcome unless I used the one meta build in the one meta role and had teammates capable of thinking and breathing at the same time. No more one-man carries or, more importantly, being able to switch tempo and builds in order to respond to a growing gap in the team or a rising strength in the opposing team.
Typical Vayne top player lol. Play using mindless aggression, that not working? Switch it up with even more mindless aggression. Still not working? “WTF??”
Almost every time when I'm playing a support I have the shit adc who can't do anything so it's just more profitable to go roam and help more useful teammates getting fed
Dude, you go top specifically to "chill" and "watch the world burn" so you don't "tryhard". Of course wins do not feel earned in those situations. Personnaly I started playing jungle to get that feeling of agency over the game. Wins, even stomps, definitely feel more deserved when ganks are successful and objectives are secured.
chad thresh top asserting dominance to beta vayne top
More omega vayne top
Cringe🥴
@@sonny_smash2588 even lower than that, Vayne tops don't have a place in society, they are less than garbage
Ranged top players don't deserve rights.
Now I know what you're thinking, but Thresh is a melee champ with ranged attacks. He's an exception
Thresh seems fair since he can be bullied early if you aren't careful. Vayne takes half your health before the waves even fully meet
i had a nasus crying about playing a rangedtop while i was playing tresh. no exception for a salty toplaner.
anyways ranged tops are super vulnerable to higher lvl all ins and to ganks you just have to accept falling behind to punish them later and hope your jungle is not too bad.
are morg karthus and vlad ranged champions?
@@zachariz1490 Vlad and Morgana are cancer. Karthus is an exception since his autos take a second to charge and cost mana
i have a rule of no ganking vayne top if she is on my team
I loved the part where Cryo said its Cryoing time and Cryoed all over the place!
one of the best Cryo moment that Cryo has ever cryoed
There is just something absolutly beautiful about just seeing one of the most disgusting champs get clapped hard by none other than Thresh, he just has a way of slapping annoying demacians around.
This reminds me of old LoL when it wasn't as restrictive as it is now. Ahhh sweet memory of playing AP old Sion and experimenting builds on other champs. Good old highschool days.
I always get a mental boom when playing agains Vayne top
for me its volibear. although riven just gave me the shuffle and now brings me concern.
Loved this Vayne's WTF moment. Ah yes when you play busted "scaling" champion and you actually had problems in early-mid game for once in 100 games
I have stopped playing lol for a long time, but it's always good to watch u this optimistic, it pains me to see a franchise this poorly handled by corporate who don't care about you xd
Same, I barely play like one game every month and a half because the over competitive environment and eveyone being needlessly assholish makes the game feel like crap
I feel like if they should realize that just because they aren't going to see their team again after the game is over doesn't mean they need to be so toxic
@@alejandropetit6573 also the feeling of not progressing, or like Cryo said, not being rewarding, cuz you may win a game, but did you win it with luck? Or skill? Or actually playing with your "team"? And even if you did all that, for what? 16 Lp? This game is such a joke, the fact that you have to go over and over the same garbage become boring, the only saving grace to this game for me is the lore, AND I HOPE THEY DON'T SCREW THIS UP
@@Significantharrassment *cough* *cough*, ruination *cough* *cough*
I saw the cover for this video with the whole "we're being carried by a thresh lol" and legit had a similar scenario not too long ago. It was really weird, but man did it feel amazing.
duude that 15:03 shaco play was 200iq
Love to see having someone do to a Vayne Player what I could never do.
Also great how Vayne got outmanuvered hit with an Ult and wasnt full HP like you yet she still was supprised to loose...
Says alot about Vayne as a Charakter
Top lane is the lane that allows you to keep your sanity.
Jungle -> everyone flames you whatever you do
Mid -> you can get swated by bot supp and jgl at same time
Adc -> 2v2 always having to be on guard against morg blitz and such supp or just the jungler overall, not a very relaxing and fun experience
Supp -> one of the hardest and important roles and still one of the most under rated, so even if you do something good, the other player you're supporting will get the "glory" of it.
I feel like no role comes without it's caveats. Top suffers awfully with Counterpick syndrome and being frozen on in such a long lane can be devastating.
I also feel like no role is really the hardest, as all roles have unique jobs that it would be unfair to judge.
I feel in general, lack of team play, forgiveness and a lack of general knowledge contributes heavily to toxicity in low elo League. People are merciless to mistakes, whilst not placing any attention to things that would better understand scenarios.
(For example: Complaining about match-ups, your Vlad mid will never roam against an Ekko, Ahri or Akali who can out push the lane and use their mobility roam, whilst Vlad needs to scale and can't give up a wave without being punished by being weak)
Or Jungler's complaining about having to give up their camps to allies or Laners not understanding lane swaps, Supports and Jungler's not understanding wave management, Laners lacking jungle pathing knowledge etc.
Player's tend to be the stressful thing in League, more than the game itself.
@@WyvernKnightBright but top lane is by far the most relaxing one
top lanes relaxing until your counter picked or have to face a ranged top laner that bullies you. from then on its gonna be 247 hell since the rest of the team doesnt even know top exists and wont even think about ganking your lane to help you gain an advantage against em
haha funny top gets camped and dived 24/7 after getting counterpicked ;-;
idk what elo you're in but Vayne players where I am just sort of expect to win, especially in top lane. Really funny to see them get outplayed and rage
She didn't really get outplayed. Just out-DPS-ed, which is probably why it was so surprising for that Vayne player.
isnt that like every vayne in any rank ever? they think they already won and outplay themselves in matchs they shouldnt be able to lose
The Vayne is/was B1 and he's S2
I'd be down to show my horrible Neeko ADC mechanics in an off-meta custom game
The ultimate battle ad ahri v ad neeko which vastaya will come out on tune in next one on cryobeats channel
I feel like it'd be the perfect time for my Kayle Support ^^
@@tia714 omg kayle support is so fun! Also if you guys want an off meta not duo go sejuani ashe the slows cc and engage is insanely fun and kind of toxic for the enemy team lol.
@@dragonsreingsupreme1 I use Neeko mid for when the enemy mid picks my Ahri. It's a bit of a skill matchup on both sides, but I like playing it from Neekos side
@@tia714 Idk about that. Not that Kayle support isn't good or anything But Neeko ADC is very much a lane-bully and needs to win early to be relevant. I guess I could take lethal tempo instead of pta for better scaling, but still. I'd love to have an off-meta support with some earlygame power though.
Bro keep doing that youre so chad
On the support issues. As a support main, ADCs aren’t worth supporting anymore/don’t trust you anyway. So now we go damage and roam to help better lanes. Enchanters are dead in low ELOs. Like when I play Glasc and W my ADC 90% of the time they do a 180 and leave combat.
Cryo has literally become the last bastion for me of safe chill league. I love league because I'm attached to the lore but the community hurts to be a part of so I'm glad to at least still have one decent human.
Actually does anyone have any recommendations for creators like cryo?
Edit: thanks everyone for all the recommendations I have a lot to check out now :)
Sirchez is an option for chill gameplay
I would say either Pekinwoof or Quantum
Polypuff is a haven for super friendly optimism
Xpetu is my favorite
Spear shot is god damn entertaining too
Did that lee q just went thru box and shaco? @ 3:33
thresh is beautifull designed. you can mess up sooo hard with him but if you know what youre doing you can carry your team as either dd or supp or both at the same time
his kit is absolutely wonderful, one of the best champs Rito ever made
Been doing thresh top for a long time in draft pick man, my friends and teammates all called me crazy til they had seen the atk spd and dmg
I feel like people forget Thresh haa ranged autos- especially when its an adc or mage thinking they can free range in traditional ranges but just get slapped by Thresh.
As a Garen/Nasus 2 trick, this was cathartic af.
14:34 about this topic, I miss the time supports where actually supports and not just lux full ap or other full ap champs or assassins...
This reminds me that somehow Alistar still exists and hasn't been deleted
15:02 this shaco
Off Meta custom games sound fun.
only question is what is considered off Meta when there are otps that reach master/challenger with picks most people would think of as trolling?
love the sound of watching a viewer off meta custom game
What Runes did you use? I tried thresh top and I was hitting my enemy for like 20 dmg
Even if you don’t have more than a 60hz monitor playing with more than 60fps is a Must. You can feel the difference in the input delay. Change it.
Question why dont you clim with this pic?
And how do you team figth with thresh top?
What is the music going on in the background???
"Gay elk" reminds me of a teachers note. Guy's daughter had a note from the teacher that she had called a boy " a hanzo main" and while she didn't understand what that meant, it was clearly meant as an insult"
I'm down for that custom game sounds like so much fun ngl
This week, in your promos!
Question would hullbreaker work on thresh or it would be debuffed for him being ranged?
It just isn't really worth it, partly because of the ranged nerf, but also because splitpushing too hard with Thresh almost always gets you killed; doesn't suit his playstyle tbh.
@@CryoBeat i see and what about whits end and nashor tooth toguether?
i think a lot of the reason it feels like you never win a game, the enemy just loses it is because most people who play this game, especially around our mmr constantly play like they're ahead and act way too aggro so when they fall behind they just kind of feed or overextend instead of adapting to the new game state.
i'm in the predicament where i generally play a lot safer and have better macro than most but i have really shit mechanics so i do best playing champs that can punish mistakes and pray that none of the other lanes feed harder than the enemy into me. i feel like 90% of the time if i go even in lane the game is lost because one of the other lanes ints 5 (10 if it's bot lane) kills over and there's not much i can do to affect the state of the game at my current skill level
People underestime what support Champs can do with resources, everyone is used to seeing them with no gold or xp
the chad off meta vs the virgin lane bully
the E got buffed, right? Hmm maybe I wanna try him in top lane too.
what elo?
You have my jungle veigar for that custom
would onhit neeko be allowed? :D
i main soraka and i always want my adc to be alive obviously if he is not an idiot but more often than not they just go right into the enemy to die....
NA goldies in the comments calling ranged "beta"
My men would be having a mental breakdown if they faced Quinn or Vayne as a Nasus.
I was a Nasus main between 2013-2015 early and learned to face a teemo(ranged in general) 2/3 of my games.
But what can I ask from Juggernauts mains...it's Darius only 4 them.
I once froze wave perfectly on a top Lucian for 13 minutes straight and my jg didn't show up once.
What rank is this?? Silver?
14:32 I feel offended as a support main
what elo is this?
darius top but with liandry and demonic can be cool
I mean the Lillia main in Chat is a german or at least his Name i pretty similar to it so what do you expect from us? :D
I’ve played league but have had a differing level of age and skill and perspective across other mobas and games. I still have fun in league. I know it’s sin. But I love eing somebody as so many old champs and new champs (wild how a lot of fun abilities are on E) I do agree there are a lot of unfun and very intense vibechecks within league. I still think fun can be possible. I also have sm more time to burn then the average person rn which is a privilege but. Idk is it really that much of a sin to smile after a game of league?
2:32 I feel like it's not so much that players have less control, more like...less answers? Like if you're in the acting role, great, good for you, you have an infinite amount of options, but if you're *reacting* the game basically tells you your SoL. "Maybe next time don't get put into a reactionary position, f*cking idiot." Kinda vibes...?
for an off meta custom game, please reserve a spot for adc sona
Gotta respect that Lillia support. All it takes is one good Eep! And there goes half their HP lol
If y'all do the viewers game, I'll play AP Ornn Mid👀👀👀 or literally give me a champion and I'll play whatever you tell me to do🤣 ad Viktor? Yessir
And remember, if you play Vayne top dont even ask yourself if you deserve it, you deserve worse.
I haven't played SR in months now, but has support really gone that far south? Is it just wannabe carries that don't comprehend the word support now?
Funny how I thought botlane is the best place to watch everyone screw up and flame at eachother 🌝
Try xerath jg just dont forget to bring heal. I used to do it a bit and its funny just snipping people from jg with q.
Thresh did well against Vayne, but I think maybe Braum could have handled her better. It got me thinking. Could Braum top work?
yeah ive seen braum top work before, although it seems sorta hard
I think Cryo should give it a go. I mean he played Thresh top and he played Bard and Sona top aswell, so he played a lot of supports on toplane.
Wait wait wait. They took out _all purchasable wards??!_
Yeah, glad I quit this game years ago then. Left for pretty much the same reason: felt like I was having less and less of a direct impact on the game’s outcome unless I used the one meta build in the one meta role and had teammates capable of thinking and breathing at the same time. No more one-man carries or, more importantly, being able to switch tempo and builds in order to respond to a growing gap in the team or a rising strength in the opposing team.
You can still buy pink wards like you always could
Typical Vayne top player lol. Play using mindless aggression, that not working? Switch it up with even more mindless aggression. Still not working? “WTF??”
cool 😁😁
"supports don't care about you".
As a senna, i do care. Well i want my lethality &100+ stacks more, but i do care.
but i only play tank supports and stick with my adc as much as possible :(
Almost every time when I'm playing a support I have the shit adc who can't do anything so it's just more profitable to go roam and help more useful teammates getting fed
Yeah do viewer games again that’s fun
Vayne top, gets what she deserves
I subscribe to chad thresh
zed gaming
Fight crit with crit
Stridebreaker Blitz anyone?
Darius supp
Dude, you go top specifically to "chill" and "watch the world burn" so you don't "tryhard". Of course wins do not feel earned in those situations.
Personnaly I started playing jungle to get that feeling of agency over the game. Wins, even stomps, definitely feel more deserved when ganks are successful and objectives are secured.
Bababooey
Feel like iron or something. Im sorry i dont wanna judge but the enemy team kinda cant play the game right
silver 2 game hahaha
Imagine missing every hook and still getting kills
If you ever do viewer custom games again You should tell us where to watch it! Oh you said we can watch it at twitch.tv/cryobeats ? Will do boss!