That would hurt... a lot The only problem I can see is that you have be quite close to activate the effect Most adc has range longer than Heartsteel effect range But can't deny that's a lot of damage in the long run
tbh i feel like with heartsteel thresh top will be even more viable than before. thresh's range is perfect for it since it isn't too long so it would be hard to start stacking it, but still has enough range that you can safely stack heartsteel. you also gain so much armor from passive that the fact that heartsteel only gives hp doesnt matter as much.
To answer the question from ~14 mins about Samira autos, no they don’t actually count as melee autos when you’re close enough to activate the melee animation, it becomes like a thresh auto actually, where it can’t be windwalled but it still counts as ranged. This kinda sucks for her, as with it she could reach 12 stacks on conq before starting her ult in her fast combos, and if it switched to counting her as a melee champ she would be able to have a bunch of other builds and items become viable on her. Also DD would go from pretty good to busted as hell on her lol
I saw something about having Domination as a secondary tree and taking Ingenious Hunter with it to shorten the cooldown of the Heartsteel proc from 30 seconds to 23 I believe. Awesome gameplay, love seeing Thresh top and look forward to the GP video
Ah yes the golden rule of toplane. Help team - lose Also heartsteel kog doesn't sound all that terrible seeing that tank kog is kind of a thing and he still melts...
some of the suggested skill ups on champs are straight troll hearsteel kog is funny but i think you need guinsoos first? some things i've noticed with heartsteel while experimenting, it procs on illaoi spirits separately from the champion you pull from, you can proc it every single spirit even if it's the same spirit that was just pulled meaning hypothetically it could have like an 8 second cd, but i don't think you will actually get to proc it as often. also it works on clones and stuff so like in this game you could proc it on wukong, then proc it again on his clone just before it expires
Would Demonic Embrace work well with Steelheart and Titanic Hydra , than Wits , maybe Sunfire and Boots of choice ? Since Steelheart is what it is we might aswell abuse it while we have it
I used to play frostfire tempo support thresh but now it's not the the same at all. By the way why did you choose wit's over botrk? It's like the best antitank item and it also has lifesteal which is broken on tanks with tempo.
Try Heartsteel Grasp of the Undying mid. Short lane and melee assassins cant do anything to you as you free poke and scale. Titanic and Demonic Embrace for extra infinite scaling. From there, just full tank and you're a late game monster.
i think you really need to go tiamat early as mythics don't have sunfire effect anymore. titanic into wits end into jackchow or verdant virtue which gives a good 10% max hp + 2 % regen on aoe. and do not need to be bought early to scale. or just titanic into heartsteel as it scales better as the game goes on anyways. but then you delay your wits end so you should concidder berserks or mercury to get some as or mr early
@@OverHaul164 yes but to stack it you need to be able to fight. And you need to buy it too. If you are forced into a losing lane cause you get outsustained and perma pushed then you can't but it or when you end up buying it you can't stack it if you are in a losing senario. So buying a stronger early item to wave manage and trade better is a good idea. See in this game mundo didn't use his lead properly and even then tresh had 93 HP before he bought his Titanic. If he went Titanic first he would have cleared these minion waves and deny platings + turret gold and have some kill pressure. The most important isn't to stack asap but to stack faster than your opponent. Mundo could have split and win the game by himself draging 3 poeple top permanently to deal with his push. And then you keep the option to buy another mythic if you see that the game isn't going to last. Other mythic are better pre 20 mins except for some HP scaling champs, many games are decided by a lead you get before that.
ravenous and shojin being what they are and fiora existing just make the game not a tank meta. poeple are playing tanks a lot leading to tank to tank matchup where they scale in longer games but if the tanks are strong anti tanks are meta.
I too speedran the whole yu gi oh series but at the time Arc V was still running and had potential. No spoilers but the ending is.. *Sadge* which is a shame
I think the issue is, yeah, a lot of us older players are no longer playing since, hue hue league shit game and also just people moving on. Not many people have played pre season 3. I wonder how many are left that have played since even like pre season 9.
finally found the streamer who crossovers with yugioh... taken too long... while your opponent's team has more minions on the map than you do, your opponents cannot auto attack or deal damage :D
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Lantern man discovers the power of having a heart and proceeds to beat everyone up with it 😅
Kingdom Hearts
Just gonna say this, Heartsteel Kogmaw is incredible.
That would hurt... a lot
The only problem I can see is that you have be quite close to activate the effect
Most adc has range longer than Heartsteel effect range
But can't deny that's a lot of damage in the long run
@@khazix4833 ? Heartsteel range is 700 units, every ADC has less than that as their auto range, except like Kog W and a stacked Senna.
Would basically always proc in an extended trade
@@mob-run cait is 750, i use only hearthsteel in aram, constantly stacking
@@freze994 caitlyn's range is 650
4:46 at this precise moment, physical pain was felt in cryo's heart.
tbh i feel like with heartsteel thresh top will be even more viable than before. thresh's range is perfect for it since it isn't too long so it would be hard to start stacking it, but still has enough range that you can safely stack heartsteel. you also gain so much armor from passive that the fact that heartsteel only gives hp doesnt matter as much.
ngl miss the demolish heartsteel proc noise. satisfying af
I was waiting for this video, one shot thresh is even more apparent now with heartsteel proc ontop of his flail passive
Oneshot everything that can scratch you while the cant... still get oneshotted
the heartsteel bonk is soo satisfying and tesh is perfect for it since hes E ALSO charges a big bonk
V-tuber Cryo is what I didn't realize I needed
I just saw a Thresh in one of my games earlier today with a Heartsteel build. He absolutely carried my team.
4:48
I want this to be the new Thresh death sound
Is tempo still better than grasp when you have 6-7 k hp?
Honestly... probably. Souls be slapping.
@@CryoBeat in current meta I tried going heatseeker into ruined king. Wasn't too bad, but not really good either
Heatseeker Gwen is pretty nice tho :D
bro, your vids are so relaxin i almost fell asleep
Went to UA-cam to see if anyone had the same idea as me, and I came across your channel. Love the content.
To answer the question from ~14 mins about Samira autos, no they don’t actually count as melee autos when you’re close enough to activate the melee animation, it becomes like a thresh auto actually, where it can’t be windwalled but it still counts as ranged.
This kinda sucks for her, as with it she could reach 12 stacks on conq before starting her ult in her fast combos, and if it switched to counting her as a melee champ she would be able to have a bunch of other builds and items become viable on her. Also DD would go from pretty good to busted as hell on her lol
love your videos, may i ask what mic do you use ?
Cryo´s chat is such a vibe
I saw something about having Domination as a secondary tree and taking Ingenious Hunter with it to shorten the cooldown of the Heartsteel proc from 30 seconds to 23 I believe.
Awesome gameplay, love seeing Thresh top and look forward to the GP video
been playing heartsela thresh top nonstop its awsome
hehe heartsteel thresh lets goooo
hope you have a good evening, take care of yourself cryo!
I wanted to ask when will you update ur thresh ad build on mobafire cuz I don’t think frost fire is still viable
what's music on 15:10?
What if you just did thresh jungle? Might work this season?
So what's your thought on this Titanic Hydra + Heartsteel combo?
Also, what's your thought on Demonic Embrace + Heartsteel combo?
Why not both
could heartsteel make the fisherman w/ lantern feel better?
just go heartsteel demonic combo?
Finally a good thresh top mythic
Heartsteel + Titanic = infinite AD, means Thresh can one-shot like never before :) You only need a 50 minute long game...
Ah yes the golden rule of toplane. Help team - lose
Also heartsteel kog doesn't sound all that terrible seeing that tank kog is kind of a thing and he still melts...
Kayle and Fiddlesticks can melee auto too.
some of the suggested skill ups on champs are straight troll
hearsteel kog is funny but i think you need guinsoos first?
some things i've noticed with heartsteel while experimenting, it procs on illaoi spirits separately from the champion you pull from, you can proc it every single spirit even if it's the same spirit that was just pulled meaning hypothetically it could have like an 8 second cd, but i don't think you will actually get to proc it as often.
also it works on clones and stuff so like in this game you could proc it on wukong, then proc it again on his clone just before it expires
Would Demonic Embrace work well with Steelheart and Titanic Hydra , than Wits , maybe Sunfire and Boots of choice ? Since Steelheart is what it is we might aswell abuse it while we have it
My Thresh top usually goes tiamat, heartsteel, wit's end, guinsoo, then whatever else's needed at the time.
Support thresh with heart steel works really well too
He is one of the very few ranged champ that can make use of this item ngl
I used to play frostfire tempo support thresh but now it's not the the same at all. By the way why did you choose wit's over botrk? It's like the best antitank item and it also has lifesteal which is broken on tanks with tempo.
I think it's because wit give more AS and magic dmg on hit while tank always build armor
Try Heartsteel Grasp of the Undying mid. Short lane and melee assassins cant do anything to you as you free poke and scale. Titanic and Demonic Embrace for extra infinite scaling. From there, just full tank and you're a late game monster.
Love you videos.
I would appreciate some endgame stats.
See how much damage you've done or taken
Big game mr gamer man
I'm pretty sure grasp is better with heartsteel as they sinergise really well with eachother.
the hidden tech is heartsteel thresh adc with an early gank is very broken
Its really sad that his jungler never went up to help him....
So it was you who caused me to get my ass whooped by three differnt thresh heartsteal tops
i think you really need to go tiamat early as mythics don't have sunfire effect anymore. titanic into wits end into jackchow or verdant virtue which gives a good 10% max hp + 2 % regen on aoe. and do not need to be bought early to scale. or just titanic into heartsteel as it scales better as the game goes on anyways. but then you delay your wits end so you should concidder berserks or mercury to get some as or mr early
The sooner you have heartsteel, the sooner you start stacking it
@@OverHaul164 yes but to stack it you need to be able to fight. And you need to buy it too. If you are forced into a losing lane cause you get outsustained and perma pushed then you can't but it or when you end up buying it you can't stack it if you are in a losing senario. So buying a stronger early item to wave manage and trade better is a good idea.
See in this game mundo didn't use his lead properly and even then tresh had 93 HP before he bought his Titanic. If he went Titanic first he would have cleared these minion waves and deny platings + turret gold and have some kill pressure. The most important isn't to stack asap but to stack faster than your opponent. Mundo could have split and win the game by himself draging 3 poeple top permanently to deal with his push.
And then you keep the option to buy another mythic if you see that the game isn't going to last.
Other mythic are better pre 20 mins except for some HP scaling champs, many games are decided by a lead you get before that.
ravenous and shojin being what they are and fiora existing just make the game not a tank meta. poeple are playing tanks a lot leading to tank to tank matchup where they scale in longer games but if the tanks are strong anti tanks are meta.
W Thresh
I did something like that with 5p flex and my friends wanted to ff
@@eitan4253 why reply to yourself?
I too speedran the whole yu gi oh series but at the time Arc V was still running and had potential. No spoilers but the ending is.. *Sadge* which is a shame
Nearly 3k HP from one item. What the hell.
damn that heart took long
I think the issue is, yeah, a lot of us older players are no longer playing since, hue hue league shit game and also just people moving on. Not many people have played pre season 3. I wonder how many are left that have played since even like pre season 9.
R E T U R N T O M O N K E Y
Bababooey
Shit
*i need to try that*
u were under turret for 15+ min and u got 0 ganks xD
Hehe monke
finally found the streamer who crossovers with yugioh... taken too long...
while your opponent's team has more minions on the map than you do, your opponents cannot auto attack or deal damage :D
watching this tilts me
We need a nerf
Modern players prefer modern league because it has more sexy people in it. :/
you lost a lot of farm for nothing xDD wtf