Spotted Saturn through an early telescope he personally invented but never noticed Venus 'The morning star' while smoking on the doorstep in the early morning
In December of 1970, the Russians landed the Venera-7 probe on the surface of Venus. It would be another twenty years before they figured out what the heck they'd landed on.
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A little history lesson, according to Top Trumps: In Aug. 1970, the Soviet Union launched the Venera 7 probe in a random direction. To everyone's surprise, 4 months later it came in contact with an unknown astronomical object which is plainly visible from earth with the naked eye on a clear day. Fortunately, the probe was perfectly equipped for atmospheric entry of the unknown object, and was able to successfully land on its surface and send back atmospheric and temperature readings. For the next 20 years, this and the many other encounters with unusual bodies just inwards of Earth were a complete mystery to astronomers. However, in 1990, the planet Venus was discovered, and its presence explained the strange landings and orbits of probes such as the Venera 7.
The Halley's Comet card is definitely bull-shit. Let's see why: 1) It was discovered in the mid-Victorian era by a man named Halley - hence the name. 2) It, as a comet, has a highly irregular orbit - meaning it has no fixed distance from the sun. 3) If you have calculated its diameter then you should, also, know its temperature. 4) MASS CANNOT, BY ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BE NEGATIVE! And, if the 'minus' is a misprint - the whole deck's a God damn misprint, if you ask me - Halley's Comet is definitely smaller than Earth. That is all. Good day!
MY FUCKING SIDES!! "...If you turn them over, you can form a big picture of Mars. Which is gonna be discovered next Thursday, so keep your eye out for that". A more accurate statement than those cards make..!
I was subbed to this channel BEFORE it went all mainstream! It was way better back in -(insert unsolvable theoretical math equation for a number too low to be recognized or understood by modern man) BCE!
Strange. I discovered this channel in 2014141414141414141493947... also, when I weighed the channel over the Internet, I found it has a mass of -2.-3/,28+927.28.9/28.29.289.
About the screwy dates: if you freeze around 3:32, you can see the card that explains the stats says, "Certain objects in space have been familiar to us for years, others have only recently been discovered. For those objects where no clear date of discovery is available the date shown refers to the most significant studies or developments about that object mankind has made. For example, Donati's comet was the first to be photographed, in 1858." So the Venus date, for example, probably refers to Project Magellan, which first mapped the surface of the planet in 1990-1991. Explains the dates. Doesn't excuse them. "Year of Discovery," is just bad wording, and deciding what are, "the most significant studies or developments about that object mankind has made," is going to be arbitrary at best.
What about Ganymede? That was only discovered in 1610, so how was there a major study about it in 364BC? Did they get it mixed up with the Goddess Ganymede?
@@drivingcat6901 Just in case anyone sees this and may not get it, the Ford GT40 was so named because that's how tall the car was. Yes, about an eyelash taller than a meter.
I can see how, as a game this Space Phenomena deck wouldn't really work out. Also, regarding the statistics: Uranus WAS discovered in 1781, by William Herschel. If you look at older models of the Solar System, the planets only went up to Saturn. Herschel figured out patterns in the known planets' movements, looked up at a spot in the sky where he continued the pattern, and found Uranus. (Technically, Uranus WAS spotted by observers before him, but it was always thought to be a star and went unnamed.) Every planet from Saturn and inwards have been known since ancient times though, and were known to be moving about the sky in every civilization that cared to look up enough to notice. Venus is the stragest one regarding years of discovery, considering Earthlings have sent stuff to Venus before 1990. I have no idea where they got 1770 from for the Aurora borealis. Galileo coined the term in 1619, but auroras have been observed by humans since before recorded history. Ganymede's a weird one here too. Most of the others were ridiculously late (or should be N/A, like with the Sun and the Moon), but Ganymede was Galileo's doing again, in 1610. That's why Ganymede, Io, Callisto, and Europa are collectively known as the GALILEAN moons. Because Galileo discovered them. For Halley's Comet, the temperature is most likely listed as "N/A" because it goes up and down a lot. When it's furthest away from the Sun, its temperature is near absolute zero, but when it's closest, it becomes incredibly hot. I can only guess that the -6,000,000,000,000 Earth masses came about due to someone screwing up on a calculator. I would've liked to see some of the other ones. I was hoping they'd dig up something more obscure, like Herbig-Haro objects or centaurs, but it looks like they're sticking mostly with familiar things from within our Solar System.
Overhazard Of course we all know the famous quote by the man who discovered Aurora Borealis- 'A-AURORA BOREALIS? AT THIS TIME OF YEAR? AT THIS TIME OF DAY? IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY? LOCALISED ENTIRELY WITHIN YOUR KITCHEN?'
With regards to the temperature of Halley's Comet, it certainly does change as it orbits, but then so does everything else. In following some consistency with the details (something they found very hard, apparently), I also think planets and moons that were seen in ancient times but not properly identified should have still counted as being discovered. Otherwise, the Sun, Venus and Moon would make no sense whatsoever. Even without names, the objects themselves exist, and were obviously clearly visible.
Well, they actually have an explanation. If you pause at around 3:32 you can see that the card explaining the stats reads: "Certain objects in space have been familiar to us for years, others have only recently been discovered. For those objects where no clear date of discovery is available the date shown refers to the most significant studies or developments about that object mankind has made. For example, Donati's comet was the first to be photographed, in 1858." But that logic has some problems of its own. For instance, whatever happened to the moon in 1651 was apparently more significant than a man landing on it in 1969. And whatever happened to the sun in 200 BC was apparently more significant than Albert Einstein discovering how it worked in the mid-to-late 20th century.
according to Wikipedia, the moon wasn't discovered in 1651, but a law was passed in Massachusetts preventing the poorer class from wearing excessive amounts of clothing.
Just to clarify, it wasn't actually against excessive amounts of clothing. The bill was prohibiting the lower class from wearing upper class clothing (fine lace, wigs, gold and jewelry, etc)
I learned that in Victorian England, a commoner was not allowed to look directly at the queen due to a belief that the poor had the ability to steal thoughts. Science now believes that only 4% of poor people are able to do this. ...No more farfetched than anything in this video...
scbonduk The question was more "why isn't Ganymede also classified as a moon?" than "why isn't the Moon classified as a satellite?", even though satellite is more the correct term over moon.
***** Moons are "natural satellites"; they orbit around a planet. You might have heard the term "satellite love interest" before referring to someone whose life revolves around their love interest (most of the Twilight cast fall under this, but specifically imprinting turns you into one); calling someone a "satellite love interest" is referring to this aspect of a satellite. Much like how a satellite revolves around the planet its in the gravitational pull of, Jacob's life revolves around "Nessie". Calling Ganymede a "moon" is kind of like calling an adhesive bandage a "Band-Aid"; Band-Aid is a name brand of adhesive bandages, so calling Gaymede a "moon" is kind of like that, because our natural satellite is called the Moon. It's easier to call adhesive bandages Band-Aids, but that's not right. The same goes for the term Googling, which is searching on the internet and doesn't always apply to Google. Does that make sense?
I actually have the 2005 "non shitty" version: most of the years of discovery have been changed to "prehistory" and they have managed to find some statistics to replace the "N/A's"
scbonduk That's a bit pedantic. The atmosphere is part of the planet - what you see is the atmosphere IN the planet. It's not like they are spread apart...
Regarding "Years of Discovery" on the cards shown in the video: Earth: N/A is understandable. Uranus: 1781 is the correct year of discovery. Aurora Borealis: 1770 is outright incorrect as it likely got its name in the 17th century from Pierre Gassendi as well as having been observed by the Chinese and Greeks long before that century in addition to oral traditions dating back to 700 AD from the Scandinavians and Eskimos. 1987A: Correct as it was the first supernova discovered that year. Hoba West: May as well be correct given that it was first recorded and published in 1920. Mercury: 1885 is not even close as observations were made by ancient astrologers for over a millennia. Glatton: Yep, 1991 is correct. Earth's Moon: Top Trumps, our moon has been observed LONG before 1651. In fact, it's been observed LONG before recorded history became a thing. Venus: Oh boy, Venus! 1990 was when the Magellan spacecraft had an orbital encounter with Venus, NOT THE YEAR OF DISCOVER AS OBSERVATIONS OF THE PLANET WERE MADE FAR BEFORE THE CRAFT WAS EVEN CONCEIVED!! Oy Vey! The Sun: BUZZ OFF, TOP TRUMPS!! THE SUN HAS BEEN OBSERVED LONG BEFORE 200 BC!! Ganymede: This one's a bit tricky. Despite it actually being 365 BC, it is a very probable date as it might have been discovered (with the naked eye) at that time frame. However, it is more commonly agreed that 1610 was the year of discovery for Ganymede as the year 365 BC might have held just a plain observation made (again with the naked eye) and it is possible that it might not have been Ganymede that was spotted in 365 BC. Halley's Comet: 1059 BC is not entirely believable given that it was observed long before that date as well as its official periodicity being recorded in 1705.
First the Moon discovery one was obviously messed up, but maybe you could buy that it wasn't officially recorded in some (relatively modern) astronomical society until then and these guys were using that hypothetical society's already questionable records for some (stupid) reason...But Venus wasn't discovered until after I was friggen born? Sure, it's less obvious than the moon, but only slightly less in astronomical terms (and Mercury only slightly less so than Venus, so that statistic I knew was very suspect too). At that point, if I was still playing the game I'd just toss all the cards up in the air and just walk away in disgust. I'd have probably done so with the Moon card already though. EDIT: At least I wouldn't have seen the Sun one. I might have had an aneurysm at that.
***** The dates on many of the cards were just questionable at best, obviously wrong at worst. Slightly surprised they didn't have 4000BC on Earth just to troll us....
I did some quick research and apparently an Italian priest/astronomer named Giovanni Battista Riccioli made a map of the Moon in 1651. Still, not quite a "discovery" as the card claims. As far as the others, they just got worse and worse as the video went on.
All the discovery stats were stupid, almost all of the planets had already been discovered in ancient Greek times! big margin of error for these things, donchathink.
Ryan Aldridge The earliest known recorded observations of Mercury are from the Mul.Apin tablets. These observations were most likely made by an Assyrian astronomer around the 14th century BC
That Sodding Gamer no, these agricultural societies needed to know their astronomy if they ever hoped to grow crops during the right seasons. where do you think our month came from? the phases and orbital period of the moon. the moon has been known since antiquity, it has been a vital part of growing early civilizations. these cards have utter bullshit facts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolatry en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_astronomy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_calendar
Might be my favourite Ashens video so far,though I usually enjoy most him suffering through really dreadful foodstuffs. I just love the rising sense of indignation as the stats get more and more off. A man after my own heart.
the sun the fucking sun was discovered in 200BC my sides have have been retroactively erased from existence and I can hardly breathe from laughter Seriously, I almost died laughing.
KingOfTheSoulSociety I don't think that's true. There was a public vote of some sort, and the people voted that it should be a planet, but I don't believe it, like, actually reclassified it as a planet again. Maybe. I'm not sure, none of the stories I read on the subject are clear about this.
cyber952 I was trawling Google and found lots of articles referencing what you're saying and lots of newspapers etc. from early October 2014 saying things like "Is Pluto to be reclassified" and other, similar titles. However I have been unable to find anything more recent that says whether it is or isn't. Either way it is technically still a planet, just a "dwarf planet".
***** They knew they existed yeah, but I don't think they actually knew what they were or that they were planets like Earth. They didn't really even have a concept of what a planet was (At least not in Western civilization) until like, the Renaissance.
I can't say I've ever seen any evidence that Neil DeGrasse Tyson is even capable of anger in response to sheer stupidity. He seems to be pretty nice about it.
llpalm08 You have to look in the general direction of the sun. You will literally burn your hand if you put it over the eye piece of a telescope pointed at the sun.
What you have to understand, is that the other planets do move around the Sun, just as we do. And most planetary observations are achieved at night. In fact, if you go outside right now, you can see a bright 'star' hanging nearby the Moon. That's in fact Jupiter.
I literally laughed until I cried a little. I can't help but imagine some guy trying to design these cards and just hitting a random number generator or something to fill in the categories.
This was one of those glorious Ashens vids that has me laughing so hard I wonder if the neighbors can hear. And I live in a house with quite a respectably-sized yard. Had to watch it twice in a row just for the sheer joy of it
"One of the earliest records of Mercury comes from the Sumerians around 3,000 BC." - It goes on to mention how compared to others Mercury is pretty dull so its a good chance if they knew what they were doing they probably saw others too such as Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
Holy fucking shit.....Venus discovered in 1990!?? Haley's Comet has a -6000000 mass? Just...wow. That deck must have been created by a cabal of anti-knowledge cretins who want to regress into the stone-age through sheer bewilderment. They had to try to be that wrong, it's just not possible to be that far off by accident. I've never been gobsmacked by an episode before, but this one changed that big time. Unbelievable. I'd love for Stuart to interview the people who make Top Trumps and ask them what the fuck they were on in 2004.
DO NOT WATCH THIS WHILE EATING RAMEN. YOU WILL SPRAY SOUP (or the imitation of) EVERYWHERE. ***** , this is my favorite video you have ever made. My sides hurt so much right now. XD
Alexander the Great, Pythagoras, Pharaoh Ramses the great, Qin Shi Huang, Gilgamesh, Confucius, The Buddha, and countless other great men and women all died without ever basking in the glorious rays of light provided by the sun. Such tragedy...
"how about distance from the green pen" LOLz, I spit out of Lik-m-Aid powder and almost inhaled it This is most hilarious to hear Stuart getting pissed at these pieces of cardboard. I had no idea there would be this much funny. My cup runneth over
might have allready been mentioned but; The fact you can make mars with the back of the cards makes the game even more useless, if you where crazy enough to play it often you'd soon learn which card was which by the back of the card. Failed on so many levels
GZEUS ONE Doesn't the negative mass mean like, if it was -2 it would be half of Earth's mass, as in -2 times Earth's mass? So Haley's comet is -6000000 million times as small as Earth? It's probably still wrong, since so much is wrong here, but I think that's what they meant? Since Earth had "1 mass", "2 mass" would be Earth's mass times 2 and "-2 mass" would be Earth's mass times -2. Hilarious stuff anyway, so many ridiculous errors! I don't think a conscious human being supervised/checked any of these stats....
Those were maddeningly awful -- and yes, those dates of discovery were absurdly wrong. But if it makes up for any of it, a fun fact about Venus is that there is a dull glow hypothesized (and some have claimed to have seen) to be coming from the night side of Venus that astronomers have dubbed "Ashen light." So, you know, swings and roundabouts.
And one of the first few people who have claimed to have seen that light is Stuart Ashen in the 19th century, who named the strange glow after him, and, fun fact, also lived long enough to make his own UA-cam channel in the mid-2000s, which would rise in popularity in the following years.
its a good thing the black knight satellite thing wasn't in this speed.....................n/a diameter................n/a year of discovery...n/a distance................n/a temperature..........n/a mass.....................n/a description: WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WE DONT KNOW NASAS TO SCARED TO POKE IT WITH SOMETHING IT MIGHT BE ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!! thats probably how it would look
*From the help card at the beginning, year of discovery* "Certain objects in space have been familiar to us for years, others have only recently been discovered. For those objects where no clear date of discovery is available, the date shown refers to the most significant studies or developments about that object mankind has made."
8 October, 1651, today i looked into the sky at night and noticed a large white speckled orb. I don't know why no one had done this before but never mind Nobel prize for me. -Adam Moon ps- I will name this body after my farther: Arthur
Actually Uranus really was first discovered in 1781. It had been observed before then but no one was able to actually study it because there weren't powerful enough telescopes. In fact Neptune wasn't discovered until 1846! All the other discovery dates are bullshit though.
Cameron Shuttlewood Basically the way I understand it, people had seen Uranus before the 1700s but they didn't actually identify it as a planet until then.
xD Those cards remind me so much of the fake facts from Grace Helbig's cooking videos, only the latter were more fun and made more sense. "Venus was discovered by Marilyn Manson and a cow who went to college in 1686."
The Uranus one is the closest to being correct, as William Herschel discovered Uranus in 1781. Technically it had been observed prior, but repeatedly mistaken for a star due to its slow apparent motion and relative faintness.
Yeah, I saw that one and thought "that actually sounds about right". Then they had the hilariously wrong dates for the Sun and Venus (not to mention Ganymede with a date over a thousand years before its actual discovery)…
EagleKai Though to be fair, there are some chinese astronomical observation records where someone reported seeing a second object close to Jupiter, and with good enough eyesight, you could possibly see it if the viewing angle between Earth, Jupiter and Ganymede are just right. but yeah, using an unconfirmable observation as the date of discovery is very suspect.
alphamone So for one object they use the sketchiest and earliest estimation they can find, but for others they use the latest most ridiculous ones? Seems a tad inconsistent. My guess is they just used whatever the first number they found for each and didn't actually do any research at all.
Shocking Blue had a hit single with "Venus" in 1970. I'm starting to think that perhaps these cards aren't entirely accurate. Either that or Shocking Blue owned a telescope they didn't tell anyone about.
hahahaaha "a lump of rock in somebody's garden" I love seeing that after the impressive Supernova. also "I thought this would be funny but it's just pissing me off" hahahah
Two guys were at a University of Georgia football game when one of them looks down at the Georgia Bulldog sidelines and sees Uga, the school mascot, licking himself like dogs like to do. The guy smiles, leans over to his buddy while pointing at Uga and says, "Man, I wish I could do that". His friend looks back at him in surprise and says, "Man, that dog would bite you!"
Galileo 1564-1642.
Mathematical genius. Groundbreaking physicist. The Godfather of Modern Astronomy.
Never noticed The Moon.
Interestingly, Galileo discovered 4 of Jupiters moons in 1610.
He discovered 4 moons orbiting a distant planet, but couldn't see our moon.
@@Sereomontis actually, he did see our moon. Our moon wasn't "discovered" until 1610, as up until then, we didn't realise there were other moons.
Spotted Saturn through an early telescope he personally invented but never noticed Venus 'The morning star' while smoking on the doorstep in the early morning
@@matthewwilde5222 that was a joke and that’s not how discovery works.
@@saskialange4257 have an peep at when I made that comment. I could have been dead by now
In December of 1970, the Russians landed the Venera-7 probe on the surface of Venus. It would be another twenty years before they figured out what the heck they'd landed on.
We thought it was the West Indies, comrade!
Maybe they thought it was Basildon?
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I was dumb lost my login password. I love any help you can give me.
@Eli Edwin Instablaster =)
in january of 1971, the probe came back to earth with the first known samples of Venereal disease, which was named in honor of the space probe.
A little history lesson, according to Top Trumps: In Aug. 1970, the Soviet Union launched the Venera 7 probe in a random direction. To everyone's surprise, 4 months later it came in contact with an unknown astronomical object which is plainly visible from earth with the naked eye on a clear day. Fortunately, the probe was perfectly equipped for atmospheric entry of the unknown object, and was able to successfully land on its surface and send back atmospheric and temperature readings.
For the next 20 years, this and the many other encounters with unusual bodies just inwards of Earth were a complete mystery to astronomers. However, in 1990, the planet Venus was discovered, and its presence explained the strange landings and orbits of probes such as the Venera 7.
Kek
And then there was Venera 9. For 15 years, nobody knew what the photographs it sent back
Venus was discovered in 1990....I guess thats why my solar system project in kindergarten failed because I had an extra planet.
***** venus
Duh hurr
In another recalled TT deck, we also discover that humans discovered the existence of their genitals in 1924
Don't be too hard on them, we didn't discover fact checking until 2013.
N30nH41l What pack is that?
+Frontier Jazz Well, Wikipedia says it was 2032.
The Halley's Comet card is definitely bull-shit. Let's see why:
1) It was discovered in the mid-Victorian era by a man named Halley - hence the name.
2) It, as a comet, has a highly irregular orbit - meaning it has no fixed distance from the sun.
3) If you have calculated its diameter then you should, also, know its temperature.
4) MASS CANNOT, BY ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BE NEGATIVE! And, if the 'minus' is a misprint - the whole deck's a God damn misprint, if you ask me - Halley's Comet is definitely smaller than Earth.
That is all. Good day!
Random fact: Halley's Comet is on the Bayeux Tapestry (made in 1070 or so) which depicts the Battle of Hastings in 1066.
Sightings of Halley's comet go back further, but nobody realised that it was the same recurring thing.
They should have marked the temperature as variable because they are heated by the sun hence the tail
MY FUCKING SIDES!!
"...If you turn them over, you can form a big picture of Mars. Which is gonna be discovered next Thursday, so keep your eye out for that".
A more accurate statement than those cards make..!
Heh, next Thursday, ah?
So Paul McCartney who released his Song "Venus and Mars" in 1975 predicted its discovery 15 years earlier!
Whoever discovered Venus in 1990 must have been a Beatles fan.
and Bananarama
@@robinburt5735 or Shocking Blue
@@SailorMaxie Blimey i didn't expect notifications from 6 years ago hehe
But Paul McCartney died in the 60s...
So hilarious! I'm glad that I discovered this channel in the year 3,032 BC
I was subbed to this channel BEFORE it went all mainstream! It was way better back in -(insert unsolvable theoretical math equation for a number too low to be recognized or understood by modern man) BCE!
Weird, I discovered it in -3,032 BC
mojoface That's technically the same year. BC years are all negative numbers.
Strange. I discovered this channel in 2014141414141414141493947... also, when I weighed the channel over the Internet, I found it has a mass of -2.-3/,28+927.28.9/28.29.289.
Meh I discovered the channel in 42069rektnBC
About the screwy dates: if you freeze around 3:32, you can see the card that explains the stats says, "Certain objects in space have been familiar to us for years, others have only recently been discovered. For those objects where no clear date of discovery is available the date shown refers to the most significant studies or developments about that object mankind has made. For example, Donati's comet was the first to be photographed, in 1858."
So the Venus date, for example, probably refers to Project Magellan, which first mapped the surface of the planet in 1990-1991.
Explains the dates. Doesn't excuse them. "Year of Discovery," is just bad wording, and deciding what are, "the most significant studies or developments about that object mankind has made," is going to be arbitrary at best.
thanks, buzz killington.
So whatever happened in 1651 was more important than landing on the moon according to these folk.
But we LANDED on Venus before that. That's still ridiculous.
What about Ganymede? That was only discovered in 1610, so how was there a major study about it in 364BC? Did they get it mixed up with the Goddess Ganymede?
scbonduk Jonathan said nothing bout recognition
I love how they aren't just off by a few years, they're always off by thousands of years.
We need a live stream of Ashens and Larry playing this game.
+Full Metal Hobbit that seem great 10/10 would watch
Yes, yes!!!!
This is what college professors think wikipedia is like.
Ok I laughed
i wonder what there "cars" deck would be. "ford gt 40: year of creation 2024, hp -874,"
Height: 72 inches
@@drivingcat6901 Just in case anyone sees this and may not get it, the Ford GT40 was so named because that's how tall the car was. Yes, about an eyelash taller than a meter.
Hey, that's this year!
@@ShogunMongol Blimey, how the time flies. Incidentally the latest gt40 does have 800 hp
I think the guys who created those cards pulled random values out of their asses while taking turns on an enormous bong and laughing hysterically.
I can see how, as a game this Space Phenomena deck wouldn't really work out. Also, regarding the statistics:
Uranus WAS discovered in 1781, by William Herschel. If you look at older models of the Solar System, the planets only went up to Saturn. Herschel figured out patterns in the known planets' movements, looked up at a spot in the sky where he continued the pattern, and found Uranus. (Technically, Uranus WAS spotted by observers before him, but it was always thought to be a star and went unnamed.) Every planet from Saturn and inwards have been known since ancient times though, and were known to be moving about the sky in every civilization that cared to look up enough to notice. Venus is the stragest one regarding years of discovery, considering Earthlings have sent stuff to Venus before 1990.
I have no idea where they got 1770 from for the Aurora borealis. Galileo coined the term in 1619, but auroras have been observed by humans since before recorded history.
Ganymede's a weird one here too. Most of the others were ridiculously late (or should be N/A, like with the Sun and the Moon), but Ganymede was Galileo's doing again, in 1610. That's why Ganymede, Io, Callisto, and Europa are collectively known as the GALILEAN moons. Because Galileo discovered them.
For Halley's Comet, the temperature is most likely listed as "N/A" because it goes up and down a lot. When it's furthest away from the Sun, its temperature is near absolute zero, but when it's closest, it becomes incredibly hot. I can only guess that the -6,000,000,000,000 Earth masses came about due to someone screwing up on a calculator.
I would've liked to see some of the other ones. I was hoping they'd dig up something more obscure, like Herbig-Haro objects or centaurs, but it looks like they're sticking mostly with familiar things from within our Solar System.
Overhazard
Overhazard Of course we all know the famous quote by the man who discovered Aurora Borealis- 'A-AURORA BOREALIS? AT THIS TIME OF YEAR? AT THIS TIME OF DAY? IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY? LOCALISED ENTIRELY WITHIN YOUR KITCHEN?'
With regards to the temperature of Halley's Comet, it certainly does change as it orbits, but then so does everything else. In following some consistency with the details (something they found very hard, apparently), I also think planets and moons that were seen in ancient times but not properly identified should have still counted as being discovered. Otherwise, the Sun, Venus and Moon would make no sense whatsoever. Even without names, the objects themselves exist, and were obviously clearly visible.
Well, they actually have an explanation. If you pause at around 3:32 you can see that the card explaining the stats reads:
"Certain objects in space have been familiar to us for years, others have only recently been discovered. For those objects where no clear date of discovery is available the date shown refers to the most significant studies or developments about that object mankind has made. For example, Donati's comet was the first to be photographed, in 1858."
But that logic has some problems of its own. For instance, whatever happened to the moon in 1651 was apparently more significant than a man landing on it in 1969. And whatever happened to the sun in 200 BC was apparently more significant than Albert Einstein discovering how it worked in the mid-to-late 20th century.
Mate. When they can't figure out the Moon, that's asking a bit too much of the Top Trumps people XD
Ashens did you plan the order?
It just got worse and worse as it went on too conveniently.
And I was lolling my ass off.
Hang on, I know you from somewhere O_o.
simpsonsim07 Probably from UA-cam O_o
simpsonsim07 Yeah...
simpsonsim07 He draws some stuff, and you do a certain thing with your thing until it "explodes".
TheCherrypielord The more you know.
As a physics and astronomy graduate I laughed my lungs off!
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according to Wikipedia, the moon wasn't discovered in 1651, but a law was passed in Massachusetts preventing the poorer class from wearing excessive amounts of clothing.
Well that just makes me want to wear everything I own all at once. 'Cause i'm a rebel.
Just to clarify, it wasn't actually against excessive amounts of clothing. The bill was prohibiting the lower class from wearing upper class clothing (fine lace, wigs, gold and jewelry, etc)
I learned that in Victorian England, a commoner was not allowed to look directly at the queen due to a belief that the poor had the ability to steal thoughts. Science now believes that only 4% of poor people are able to do this.
...No more farfetched than anything in this video...
The more you know
Venus was discovered by the babylonians in 1581 BC.
Not 1990 lmao.
I love how the youtube comments section is more knowledgeable than these cards.
I still need to dig out my collection of 1970s top trumps Stu, some of them are hilarious!!!
love you larry!
Bless you Sir :D
Top trumps the best thing to play on a plane/train with siblings
Any other decks about objects or people that exist in other dimensions?
You and Ashens need to play a game of trump cards on camera for use to all enjoy
Why is the Moon classified as a moon but Jupiter's biggest _moon_, Ganymede, is a "satellite"?
Because the makers of the cards don't know what the heck they're doing.... But that's not news to anybody...!
Earth's Moon is also a natural satellite. You can correctly say it either way. Probably they wanted to make it less confusing and failed miserably.
Because if you refer to Earth's moon as a satellite, which it is, then people like you will get confused between it and man-made satellites.
scbonduk The question was more "why isn't Ganymede also classified as a moon?" than "why isn't the Moon classified as a satellite?", even though satellite is more the correct term over moon.
***** Moons are "natural satellites"; they orbit around a planet. You might have heard the term "satellite love interest" before referring to someone whose life revolves around their love interest (most of the Twilight cast fall under this, but specifically imprinting turns you into one); calling someone a "satellite love interest" is referring to this aspect of a satellite. Much like how a satellite revolves around the planet its in the gravitational pull of, Jacob's life revolves around "Nessie". Calling Ganymede a "moon" is kind of like calling an adhesive bandage a "Band-Aid"; Band-Aid is a name brand of adhesive bandages, so calling Gaymede a "moon" is kind of like that, because our natural satellite is called the Moon. It's easier to call adhesive bandages Band-Aids, but that's not right. The same goes for the term Googling, which is searching on the internet and doesn't always apply to Google.
Does that make sense?
I actually have the 2005 "non shitty" version: most of the years of discovery have been changed to "prehistory" and they have managed to find some statistics to replace the "N/A's"
So the Moon isn't a giant space goblin? My life has no meaning anymore.
Mercury and Venus are two of the planets that are visible to the naked eye, Top Trumps get your shit together
In a way, Venus is visible to the naked eye, but not the planet itself. What is seen is its atmosphere, which is thick and cloudy.
scbonduk That's a bit pedantic. The atmosphere is part of the planet - what you see is the atmosphere IN the planet. It's not like they are spread apart...
scbonduk you're wrong. What you are seeing is the light reflected from the atmosphere several minutes old.
Today, on the 4th of March in the year 2015, I have discovered... *FIRE!*
Last year I discovered the Earth, checkmate.
Deltaexio
I invented the wheel two and a half years ago. Next; rocket science!
Just made a pair of bifocals, myself.
Well I made a couple of things called carbon and oxygen. I will release them soon, so keep your eye out!
DBoy11368
Man playing compulsively civilization can have some side effects ....
"oh hey lads! look at ganymede!" "oh i can't, there's that big bright thing in the way, i wonder what that is?" XD lol
Regarding "Years of Discovery" on the cards shown in the video: Earth: N/A is understandable. Uranus: 1781 is the correct year of discovery. Aurora Borealis: 1770 is outright incorrect as it likely got its name in the 17th century from Pierre Gassendi as well as having been observed by the Chinese and Greeks long before that century in addition to oral traditions dating back to 700 AD from the Scandinavians and Eskimos. 1987A: Correct as it was the first supernova discovered that year. Hoba West: May as well be correct given that it was first recorded and published in 1920. Mercury: 1885 is not even close as observations were made by ancient astrologers for over a millennia. Glatton: Yep, 1991 is correct. Earth's Moon: Top Trumps, our moon has been observed LONG before 1651. In fact, it's been observed LONG before recorded history became a thing. Venus: Oh boy, Venus! 1990 was when the Magellan spacecraft had an orbital encounter with Venus, NOT THE YEAR OF DISCOVER AS OBSERVATIONS OF THE PLANET WERE MADE FAR BEFORE THE CRAFT WAS EVEN CONCEIVED!! Oy Vey! The Sun: BUZZ OFF, TOP TRUMPS!! THE SUN HAS BEEN OBSERVED LONG BEFORE 200 BC!! Ganymede: This one's a bit tricky. Despite it actually being 365 BC, it is a very probable date as it might have been discovered (with the naked eye) at that time frame. However, it is more commonly agreed that 1610 was the year of discovery for Ganymede as the year 365 BC might have held just a plain observation made (again with the naked eye) and it is possible that it might not have been Ganymede that was spotted in 365 BC. Halley's Comet: 1059 BC is not entirely believable given that it was observed long before that date as well as its official periodicity being recorded in 1705.
+Midnight ADR Good to know, but still doesn't excuse the cards.
First the Moon discovery one was obviously messed up, but maybe you could buy that it wasn't officially recorded in some (relatively modern) astronomical society until then and these guys were using that hypothetical society's already questionable records for some (stupid) reason...But Venus wasn't discovered until after I was friggen born? Sure, it's less obvious than the moon, but only slightly less in astronomical terms (and Mercury only slightly less so than Venus, so that statistic I knew was very suspect too).
At that point, if I was still playing the game I'd just toss all the cards up in the air and just walk away in disgust. I'd have probably done so with the Moon card already though.
EDIT: At least I wouldn't have seen the Sun one. I might have had an aneurysm at that.
***** The dates on many of the cards were just questionable at best, obviously wrong at worst.
Slightly surprised they didn't have 4000BC on Earth just to troll us....
I did some quick research and apparently an Italian priest/astronomer named Giovanni Battista Riccioli made a map of the Moon in 1651. Still, not quite a "discovery" as the card claims. As far as the others, they just got worse and worse as the video went on.
All the discovery stats were stupid, almost all of the planets had already been discovered in ancient Greek times! big margin of error for these things, donchathink.
Ryan Aldridge The earliest known recorded observations of Mercury are from the Mul.Apin tablets. These observations were most likely made by an Assyrian astronomer around the 14th century BC
That Sodding Gamer no, these agricultural societies needed to know their astronomy if they ever hoped to grow crops during the right seasons.
where do you think our month came from? the phases and orbital period of the moon.
the moon has been known since antiquity, it has been a vital part of growing early civilizations. these cards have utter bullshit facts.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolatry
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_astronomy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_calendar
A nasa spacecraft did a flyby of venus in 1961, I mean come on.
halleys comet has a mass of - six Quadrillion earths...
Bogwedgle Negative mass... Really? This was a commercial product? I hate fucking Air Control less than this.
Pretty much.
Bogwedgle the soviets fuckin landed on the the thing
That sounds well gangster!
I think Earth is N/A only because Top Trumps think we haven't discovered it yet. :/
Might be my favourite Ashens video so far,though I usually enjoy most him suffering through really dreadful foodstuffs. I just love the rising sense of indignation as the stats get more and more off. A man after my own heart.
"Year of discovery, sixteen fift-oh, fuck off". I lost it by the end of the moon.
Earth's year of discovery is non applicable because it still wasn't discovered.
That explains a lot
What's earth?
the sun
the fucking sun
was discovered in 200BC
my sides have have been retroactively erased from existence and I can hardly breathe from laughter
Seriously, I almost died laughing.
I held out until the moon. That one got me. And then after Venus I can't stop laughing.
I just discovered the sun. How was I suppose to know that giant light in the sky was the sun?!
Dragoon-BB Is that you, DarksydePhil?
I wonder if Pluto is in the deck. It was discovered in the 1930's but in 2006 it wasn't classified as a planet anymore.
I would imagine so, but they probably list it as being the same size and location as Earth and having been discovered before life started to develop.
It's been reclassified as a planet just FYI.
KingOfTheSoulSociety Really? Since when?
KingOfTheSoulSociety I don't think that's true. There was a public vote of some sort, and the people voted that it should be a planet, but I don't believe it, like, actually reclassified it as a planet again. Maybe. I'm not sure, none of the stories I read on the subject are clear about this.
cyber952 I was trawling Google and found lots of articles referencing what you're saying and lots of newspapers etc. from early October 2014 saying things like "Is Pluto to be reclassified" and other, similar titles.
However I have been unable to find anything more recent that says whether it is or isn't.
Either way it is technically still a planet, just a "dwarf planet".
This is one of the hardest I have ever laughed. Holy shit.
Stu, it's extremely simple: When Doc Brown got sent back to 1885, he pointed out Mercury, and thus, if was discovered.
Uranus was seen before 1781, but 1781 was when it was first recognized as a planet, I believe.
Yeah "year of discovery" seems more like "Year we figured out what the fuck the thing is"
Except Venus. What the fuck
Reilly Weakley maybe it was 1990's venus.
unlikely, even the greeks knew about mercury through saturn and that they were planets, if that isn't good enough i don't know what is.
***** Quite strange how they knew they were other planets. I almost can't believe it myself ha.
*****
They knew they existed yeah, but I don't think they actually knew what they were or that they were planets like Earth. They didn't really even have a concept of what a planet was (At least not in Western civilization) until like, the Renaissance.
Wonder if Neil DeGrasse Tyson would explode due to the anger he'd get if he saw these?
I think they'd send him to the nut house
The sequel to this episode should be Ashens and Neil DeGrasse Tyson attempting to play this game together.
Make it happen Stuart!
Duncan Van Ooyen I'd watch the hell out of this.
I can't say I've ever seen any evidence that Neil DeGrasse Tyson is even capable of anger in response to sheer stupidity. He seems to be pretty nice about it.
Uranus' year of discovery is one of the few correct ones.
I haven't laughed this hard since Antonio Stella Bottom Tile!
Mercury being discovered so late makes sense to me.
Most people what look at the sun don't do much lookin'.
Just because Mercury is closer to the sun doesn't mean you have to look at the sun to see it.
llpalm08 You have to look in the general direction of the sun. You will literally burn your hand if you put it over the eye piece of a telescope pointed at the sun.
What you have to understand, is that the other planets do move around the Sun, just as we do. And most planetary observations are achieved at night. In fact, if you go outside right now, you can see a bright 'star' hanging nearby the Moon. That's in fact Jupiter.
***** Mercury is close to the sun 100% of the time from our perspective. That is my point.
we know that the sumerians knew about mercury about 3000 bc. and thats just the earliest we know of. its possible it was discovered even earlier.
I literally laughed until I cried a little. I can't help but imagine some guy trying to design these cards and just hitting a random number generator or something to fill in the categories.
This was one of those glorious Ashens vids that has me laughing so hard I wonder if the neighbors can hear. And I live in a house with quite a respectably-sized yard. Had to watch it twice in a row just for the sheer joy of it
This episode is a gem.
Does anyone think there should be a part 2 where he goes through the rest of the cards?
"One of the earliest records of Mercury comes from the Sumerians around 3,000 BC." - It goes on to mention how compared to others Mercury is pretty dull so its a good chance if they knew what they were doing they probably saw others too such as Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
Since no one knows the "year of discovery" of Earth yet, I shall claim that I discovered it in 2015.
And Saturn? Oh we haven't discovered Saturn yet. And We'll Discover Jupiter by 2035 AD
Holy fucking shit.....Venus discovered in 1990!?? Haley's Comet has a -6000000 mass? Just...wow. That deck must have been created by a cabal of anti-knowledge cretins who want to regress into the stone-age through sheer bewilderment.
They had to try to be that wrong, it's just not possible to be that far off by accident.
I've never been gobsmacked by an episode before, but this one changed that big time. Unbelievable. I'd love for Stuart to interview the people who make Top Trumps and ask them what the fuck they were on in 2004.
Man this channel is great! I'm glad it was created in 696BC
I just can't stop laughing, you are one of the best when it comes to reviews of this kind :))
DO NOT WATCH THIS WHILE EATING RAMEN. YOU WILL SPRAY SOUP (or the imitation of) EVERYWHERE.
***** , this is my favorite video you have ever made. My sides hurt so much right now. XD
I'd love to see a video on unofficial top trumps decks. I'm very much looking forward to an "Operation Yewtree" deck.
Alexander the Great, Pythagoras, Pharaoh Ramses the great, Qin Shi Huang, Gilgamesh, Confucius, The Buddha, and countless other great men and women all died without ever basking in the glorious rays of light provided by the sun. Such tragedy...
"how about distance from the green pen"
LOLz, I spit out of Lik-m-Aid powder and almost inhaled it
This is most hilarious to hear Stuart getting pissed at these pieces of cardboard. I had no idea there would be this much funny. My cup runneth over
"Nobody noticed the Moon until 1651?" "Nobody noticed the sun until 200 Bc?" I can't stop laughing.
might have allready been mentioned but;
The fact you can make mars with the back of the cards makes the game even more useless, if you where crazy enough to play it often you'd soon learn which card was which by the back of the card.
Failed on so many levels
anyone else notice they misspelled "satellite" on Ganymede? lol
Compared to saying Halley's comet has a negative mass, I'd say a misspelling is a pretty minor error...
GZEUS ONE Doesn't the negative mass mean like, if it was -2 it would be half of Earth's mass, as in -2 times Earth's mass? So Haley's comet is -6000000 million times as small as Earth? It's probably still wrong, since so much is wrong here, but I think that's what they meant? Since Earth had "1 mass", "2 mass" would be Earth's mass times 2 and "-2 mass" would be Earth's mass times -2. Hilarious stuff anyway, so many ridiculous errors! I don't think a conscious human being supervised/checked any of these stats....
RKaid That isn't how negatives work.
You're absolutely right. I don't know where my brain was when I wrote that comment.
RKaid Don't worry, that comment won't be written for another 500 years.
I have watched this video many times and I love it, one of the best
You made me lol so much with this vid. Thanks
Ganymede is one of Jupiter's moons that needs a telescope. Yep. I'd say we found that first.
This is the best thing Ashens has ever done.
I have the 2006 "natural wonders of the world" set, where 'the moon' and 'planet earth' are actual cards in it.
Omg that was hilarious! Thx ashens i love your videos!
Those were maddeningly awful -- and yes, those dates of discovery were absurdly wrong. But if it makes up for any of it, a fun fact about Venus is that there is a dull glow hypothesized (and some have claimed to have seen) to be coming from the night side of Venus that astronomers have dubbed "Ashen light." So, you know, swings and roundabouts.
And one of the first few people who have claimed to have seen that light is Stuart Ashen in the 19th century, who named the strange glow after him, and, fun fact, also lived long enough to make his own UA-cam channel in the mid-2000s, which would rise in popularity in the following years.
"One of those stars what gone went... boom."
"Any astrologers here that can make up some bullshit?" had me rolling! Oh the gullibility of the common person...
I haven't laughed this hard in a long, long time. Thanks, Ashens.
its a good thing the black knight satellite thing wasn't in this
speed.....................n/a
diameter................n/a
year of discovery...n/a
distance................n/a
temperature..........n/a
mass.....................n/a
description: WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WE DONT KNOW NASAS TO SCARED TO POKE IT WITH SOMETHING IT MIGHT BE ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!
thats probably how it would look
That wouldn't surprise me
Aurora Borealis? At this time of year, on this youtube video, localized entirely within a trading card!?!
Yes
@@alphagiga4878 may i see it?
TVTropes brought me here. The profound hilarity of the segment is why I subscribed.
I'm exhausted from laughing, the bit with the sun nearly killed me XD
*From the help card at the beginning, year of discovery* "Certain objects in space have been familiar to us for years, others have only recently been discovered. For those objects where no clear date of discovery is available, the date shown refers to the most significant studies or developments about that object mankind has made."
It's still extremely arbitrary.
8 October, 1651, today i looked into the sky at night and noticed a large white speckled orb. I don't know why no one had done this before but never mind Nobel prize for me.
-Adam Moon
ps- I will name this body after my farther: Arthur
I'm in tears, this is absolutely hysterical :D
Loved this Ashens! More please!
6:59 It's good to see Kanye's more talented cousin on the show.
Actually Uranus really was first discovered in 1781. It had been observed before then but no one was able to actually study it because there weren't powerful enough telescopes. In fact Neptune wasn't discovered until 1846! All the other discovery dates are bullshit though.
Except you couldn't see them because there were no telescopes powerful enough to view those planets.
Cameron Shuttlewood
Basically the way I understand it, people had seen Uranus before the 1700s but they didn't actually identify it as a planet until then.
One of my favorite videos from Ashens. His reaction to the planet "facts" are hilarious!
xD Those cards remind me so much of the fake facts from Grace Helbig's cooking videos, only the latter were more fun and made more sense.
"Venus was discovered by Marilyn Manson and a cow who went to college in 1686."
I thought "distance from the green pen" would be the funniest thing in this video, I was very wrong.
The Uranus one is the closest to being correct, as William Herschel discovered Uranus in 1781. Technically it had been observed prior, but repeatedly mistaken for a star due to its slow apparent motion and relative faintness.
Yeah, I saw that one and thought "that actually sounds about right". Then they had the hilariously wrong dates for the Sun and Venus (not to mention Ganymede with a date over a thousand years before its actual discovery)…
EagleKai
Though to be fair, there are some chinese astronomical observation records where someone reported seeing a second object close to Jupiter, and with good enough eyesight, you could possibly see it if the viewing angle between Earth, Jupiter and Ganymede are just right.
but yeah, using an unconfirmable observation as the date of discovery is very suspect.
alphamone So for one object they use the sketchiest and earliest estimation they can find, but for others they use the latest most ridiculous ones? Seems a tad inconsistent. My guess is they just used whatever the first number they found for each and didn't actually do any research at all.
I finished the video, and clicked back to see if the Supernova card had a mass, and right where I clicked, Ashens said "bloody hell". Agreed!
Holy shit i laughed so hard with this , Ashens you are the man! You can always make me laugh
i looked up the weird discovery dates and they are the year the planet was first mapped properly and got most of it's features and places named
So basically, the Top Trumps people just don't know what the word "Discovered" means.
Wow lol
That may be correct for Venus, but without telescopes, how did we map the sun and one of Jupiter's ****ing moons?
RRW If you try to look at the sun through a telescope you arent going to have much fun me reckons.
Tom Kenning True, but telescopes have filters, your eyes don't.
Shocking Blue had a hit single with "Venus" in 1970. I'm starting to think that perhaps these cards aren't entirely accurate. Either that or Shocking Blue owned a telescope they didn't tell anyone about.
hahahaaha "a lump of rock in somebody's garden" I love seeing that after the impressive Supernova.
also "I thought this would be funny but it's just pissing me off" hahahah
hahahahaha!!! Keep your eyes open for the discovery of Mars next Thursday hahahaha! that really tickled me :'D
Finish the deck on ExtraAshens!
fun fact Uranus was originally supposed to be called George
haha, the astronomers of those times were buttering up their kings :p
Haha I still have this deck and as a child I was getting just as pissed of at this 👏🏻😂
I would love to see the rest of these!
Two guys were at a University of Georgia football game when one of them looks down at the Georgia Bulldog sidelines and sees Uga, the school mascot, licking himself like dogs like to do. The guy smiles, leans over to his buddy while pointing at Uga and says, "Man, I wish I could do that". His friend looks back at him in surprise and says, "Man, that dog would bite you!"
paul wilson this has fuck all to do with the video, but I like it anyway. Also go Dawgs, etc. Hope we have a better season next year.
Was Top Trumps made by Donald Trump? That would explain it.
Were Cuppa-Soups made by Satan? That would explain a lot.
holy shit it just gets better and better.
harf to hold in the laughter
"Maybe they had foggy telescopes before then or something" XD I just pissed myself.