Why Aren't Dogs (and Other Pets) Allowed in National Parks?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- In this video I talk about why dogs (and other pets) aren't allowed to do most of the things in national parks.
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I’m always amazed by folks who let their dogs run around off-leash with no thought to what might happen..
Three Dogs and a Camper I’ve seen people do that with children. Hear me out, I saw this at the Grand Canyon near the edge of the cliffs. Children are not particularly good at “sensing” terrain.
these people ruin it for other dog owners
Former Yellowstone Ranger here: About three or four small dogs were carried off by coyotes at the Madison Campground while I worked the summer at Madison Information Station. The horror of the one owner who saw it happen and couldn’t catch the coyote… tragic.
You find those people in neighborhoods as well. Their dog comes to see you and they justify it with "he's friendly", well, my dog isn't, he's mortified of any dog that is bigger than he (Corgi so many are bigger) is and since he's restrained it forces fight rather than flight.
It depends on the dog and the training the dog has had. My lab is getting trained up for duck hunting and I have full control of him on or off leash before he went to training and will have even more control off leash of him. Most dogs however are wild and ruthless and can not be trusted off leash
Over the years, I have read several reports of instances of dogs running off, chasing the scent of a bear, antagonizing that bear, and then bringing that bear chasing the dog back to the dog's owner. If you are in a dog-friendly area, make sure you keep your dog leashed for this reason.
I have also read reports of dog rescues where a dog fell off a cliff and couldn't make it back to safe ground. These instances have required the intervention of a roped-up Search and Rescue (SAR) team to recover the dog, and sometimes the dog's owner who failed to rescue the dog and became stuck with the dog. Another reason to keep your dog leashed.
Finally, as you mentioned, cactus spines and other plants, as well as certain fauna (scorpions for example) are bad news for dogs. It's very important to keep your dog on the marked trails in country where you may encounter these (mainly the western US). Yet another reason to keep your dog leashed.
Brian Lang thank you, very informative.
Thanks for doing this. I lived near Joshua Tree and I can’t tell you how many times I attempted to communicate these thing with people who were trying to bring their dogs on the trails. Most of the time I was met with belligerence. Our national parks are a treasure and their preservation is important to all of us.
When I was growing up, my dad's large family often planned to meet up at a park for a few days of camping. Everybody took turns looking after the kids AND the dogs. It's just how things happened. At the time (not sure about now), Yosemite allowed dogs in certain campgrounds and because we had dog sitters, I was introduced to that beautiful place when I was 17. Ours were always, always on a leash or in a pen. Always. And their poo was always, always picked up. Still, I never thought about the impact of the scents and the sounds on native flora and fauna. Good point.
I have often wondered why dogs are not been allowed at some National Park trails and some other parks. Princess loves to go for walks with us so if a trail does not allow pets we just don't go. Thanks for the informative video!
(I’m going off on a tangent here) I know lots of domesticated animals are driven into wild land and abandoned because their owners don’t want to pay for them to be adopted. I’ve personally witnessed this happen when my dad and I were bird watching, a van parked up and threw out some guinea pigs, the van drove away and the guinea pigs were following and coming up to us. It was sad because they’re unlikely to survive, and my dad said “don’t touch them, we don’t know if they have any diseases”, we did contact the authorities but by the time they got out there, the animals would be hard to find.
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There is a believe in something called common sense, which eludes everyone that learned anything from this video. Good job
I must say that I am one of those people who does not feel comfortable around unknown dogs.
Good stuff, thank you. As for the wildlife in the park, we are visitors in their homes and need to respect that.
Thanks for the info my fellow Texan.. 😎👌 This is much needed and appreciated information and I'm sure it will be helpful to others.. Keep up the great work and safe travels
If people wouldn’t let their pets poop all over and run around unleashed on the trails it wouldn’t be an issue. This is a good rule. Ever gotten cellulitis from a dog bite because the owner swore the dog never needs a leash and is well behaved? It will knock you off a trail quick. Not everyone is a dog lover.
@Jane Doe .. and humans dont?
Thanks for this video! This is a great combined list of reasons and resources. I have been on trails and encountered breakers of the 'no pet' rule and have also encountered what these pets have left behind. As a volunteer in my local NCA, part of my work involves picking up after these folks (and their pets). Additionally, I've had more than a few occasions where pets have seemed hard for the owner/human to control. My NCA, in particular, has scores of petroglyphs that should not be trampled on or even touched.
Thanks for covering this topic.
I didn't know this. Thank you so much! Texas State Parks have changed some rules. There are a lot of loose d
ogs in many county parks that I have been to the last few years.
I'm OK with the rules, too. I was attacked once by a working dog while riding my bike and could not walk or use my right side (broken clavicle) for six weeks. My lapdogs are my service dogs. I would love to take my little dogs, but I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND why other people should not have to be confronted by someone's dog, not to mention, how they affect the wildlife.
so service dogs are allowed as its under the American disability act (ADA) if its a true service dog its protected under federal law but keep in mind if you get a registration it states in the ADA laws that thats a scam and doesnt make your dog a real service dog it makes it a fake and a fee up to $10,000 and/or jail time
The problem with "service animals" is people abuse the term and use it to define their dogs and think that rules don't apply to them or their pet. Anyone can buy a vest. Just like everything else a few people ruin it for others. As far as transmission of diseases to and from wild animals, that is a real threat. Humans also are bad for natural areas. We are the worst offenders.
100 percent agree. I have seen pets in hospitals, grocery stores and restaurants. They are pets because they bark, beg, go to the restroom on the floor and fight ......I have witnessed all these.
Nice restaurant neighboring table had a vested support dog who shit on the floor beside our table before our food was delivered. $200 for dinner for this nonsense. We left and let the manager know our thoughts. We paid for what we consumed.
At what point did dogs become people. Leave your dogs at home
Jerry Gundrum LoL. That’s fucked up. I still think people are worse than dogs. Definitely the lazy ones. A dog is only as bad as his owner / trainer. Their pack members and follow a strict pecking order of sorts.
And you left out a big tip. If your gonna say something smart to a person/s with a dog, size up the couple a determine whether or not you can take out the person/s if they take it the wrong way and shit goes south.
My wife for one has a three legged 8 pound support dog and is not the type you wanna piss off. (Unless you like fight of course).
I have a Service Dog.😁
Good video. I'd say the best reason for not allowing them in National Parks, is simply that the National Parks are already too damn crowded. Allowing pets, would just push the attendance numbers even higher, with people who want to bring their pets. Then add to the crowding all the problems the pets would cause, barking, dog bites, dog fights, etc., it would be a nightmare.
Nicely done informative video! I live in Buffalo, NY and do lots of traveling with my dogs. Acadia National Park is VERY dog friendly and so is Shenandoah National Park. The last couple of years we've been driving out west to do more exploring and Great Sand Dune National Park in Colorado was very dog friendly. We went to Joshua Tree National Park in September and I was surprised how dog friendly it was. They're not allowed on trails, but they're allowed on the dirt roads and there's lots of those.
Thank you for researching and sharing with us. As a pet parent of 4 dogs and starting my van conversion so I can travel and see our great country with them, I was wanting to figure out the what, why and where is ok to go. Thanks again. Very much appreciated.
I've seen people get chased by elk because their dog triggered an anti-predator response (turns out, dogs look a lot like wolves! 😂). Ultimately that encounter was inconsequential, but if it happened with a bear, it could lead to deaths (of the people and of the bear). Definitely a good rule.
Dogs also leave a scent behind that changes animals behaviors and interrupts the way they live, makes them change their patterns
And people don’t?
Yes, that is one of the things Tristan mentioned.
Thank you for making this video! These are all great points! We are seeing this more and more in Moab. People come to visit and don't have a plan for their pooch.
man I am so glad that pets are not allowed. thanks for posting this made me happy.
Lol so am I! Thanks for watching, Rob.
You forgot to mention Eagles love small pets too. YUM!!!!
Suzette Calleja as do owls and hawks
@@mimitravels710 ..any raptor...
Well done, great explanation of the subject!
Is that a bear spray holster on your right shoulder strap? Good location but subtle. I checked your gear and Kamchatka pages but didn't see or missed it. Can you share brand/model? Thanks.
We never travel/camp/hike with our two little rescues anymore. Too many people (even on local trails) let their large dogs off leash and many times, I have to grab my little ones or put myself between my leased dogs and the maniac, barking big dog (often with the owner shouting "Oh, he/she's friendly). The biggest cost of any of our camping/park trips is the wonderful pet and house care we provide for our babies at home. And, it is well worth it. Despite the fog, the trail looks lovely!
Good video! Bowser is lucky to have you as his dad.
Tristan, would you consider researching and doing a video about why drones are not allowed in national parks?
Short answer...because people are generally oblivious and many are just plain jerks. While at a distance, drones often can't be heard, they are an annoyance, distraction, and dangerous in more populated areas of parks. In many western parks the noise drones make would bounce off canyon walls and echo throughout an entire region. Could you imagine the noise if they were allowed? 50-100+ people at a time flying their drones around a specific feature of a park, like Old Faithful or Delicate Arch. Imagine the crashes that would occur, the possible damage to these fragile pieces of nature, the damage to people. It would be insanity.
While visiting Zion National Park a few years back we hiked to a waterfall and someone was flying a drone right over our heads. I didn't know what this guy's ability was so I had to constantly keep an eye on the drone and had a tough time enjoying the natural landscape of that spot. It was also loud and annoying flying only a few feet overhead most of the 30 minutes we were there. Now add a few dozen more people like this and these natural wonders and environments would be ruined. Every "content creator," photographer (amateur or pro), and every other vacationer with a few hundred extra buck would be flying one. Gross.
Good topic and thanks for the research as to why. Some people are also very allergic to animals. Many people don't clean up after their pet either. Think it is best too they are not allowed, and I'm a big animal lover. Look at all that snow, feeling like winter there.
This policy is definitely different in each park. For instance, a while back I stopped in at Cumberland Gap NP while returning from a trip to Tennessee. In the Visitor’s Center there, I was told that dogs on leash were welcome in every part of the park. It allowed us to take a hike together in the park before completing our drive home (northern KY). That said, as soon as we arrived at the trailhead, we were confronted by a couple with 2 dogs running loose. This disregard for rules creates a variety of hazards for both pets and wild life.
The grand canyon national park has kennels that you can use while you're in the canyon. They are allowed there at the grand canyon but not below the rim.
I’d be interested on your take on dogs in Wilderness areas in the US. Would you take Bowser to, say Weminuche in SW Colorado or similar (assuming you’re not climbing on the trip).
very informative video, ty
This was really good information. I just thought the reason was that so many pet owners are insensitive to other people.
I think this is most likely the real reason, but PR people have to be more diplomatic with their responses. Which is why the statement, "While we know your pet is perfect" response was so funny.
Dogs, a subject one must tread lightly with lest make some one very mad and possibly dangerous. Most dogs would much rather be home in familiar surroundings with their bed and food nearby than to go to a crowded National Park and be surrounded by people and other pets they do not know. Why people insist on bringing their dogs camping I will never know. They spend the whole time tied up and every time someone crosses their path, they bark, growl and try to get loose so they can "get you." Dogs are a nervous wreck in camp grounds and some bark incessantly because they are so unhappy with all the unfamiliar faces, smells and noises. It's a no brainer of why they are not allowed but appreciate your mention of it as it is a huge problem in places where they can still come. The kicker is that the owners just do not understand because their dog "would never hurt anyone or anything." I've heard that one too many times and it scares me to death that people can be so stupid. Thank you for mentioning such an important topic for those of us that love to feel safe on the trail. I know when I see one coming in my direction, I am off that trail in a flash and making sure that my presence is not a threatening one to that animal and don't make eye contact or talk. With that said, I would rather meet a wild animal on the trail than a domestic one.
My girls and boy (2 dogs and now 2 cats) LOVE the young couple that we pay to watch them and our home when we camp/travel. The young couple can use the money, we can enjoy our trip without worry, and the babies are in the environment they know best.
This really makes sense when you lay it out like this. I've brought my dog to Yosemite, maybe even on trails he shouldn't have been (nothing extreme), but he's in a backpack made for dogs and he doesn't make a single noise and I only got smiles from people if they even notice he's in there, but never dirty looks! The idea that someone would bring their dog and not have it on a leash is insane though. Cheers for making this video.
This is your first video that I have seen in months
Makes sense to me.
we are looking for pet sitter/dog day care when we go to Chaco this spring. Any suggestions?
Nope, no idea. Sorry!
Interesting! I don't agree with the first rule, but the other rules make sense that dogs are not allowed in National Parks. We have several neighbors that are terrified of our dogs and I would hate to ruin someone's experience at a National Park.
Can small dogs be in backpacks while on the trails? Please answer me :) About head next week to Rocky Mountain National Park
No
Also, just a thought to avoid awkward conflicts with strangers on public lands, if you come upon someone who isn't following 'the rules', MYOFB. With that said, yes keep your dogs on leash and out of areas they aren't supposed to be.
I love dogs, I hate ir responsible dog owners. I'm in the bike rider, and I can't tell you how many people let their dogs off leash on a leash path. I can't tell you how many times I've been rushed by a dog off-leash that should have been.
Did you all know that many 🇺🇸 National Parks have Bark Ranger programs?! Soooo much fun to experience with you're best 🐕 friend! Look for Bark Rangers of the U.S. National Parks in the old facebook!
I am a dog lover, but I can understand the reasoning behind the rules. My son is highly allergic so we don’t currently own one, so sad.
Your fake support or service dog is doing a disserve to folks who really need them
As long as you adhere to bark you and your dog are fine. Some national parks are totally not acceptable for dogs. Many are totally fine. As long as bag their poo, also stay leashed, respect wildlife and know where they can go, no problem!
Excellent video.
In my Ranger days, when a huge RV drove in with a tiny dog yapping from its perch on the dashboard, I knew we were in for trouble. And I was never wrong.
Thoughts: 1. Dogs are NOT your babies, nor you their parents; they are somewhat domesticated yet still wild animals and will act according to their wild nature much of the time. 2. National Parks only cover about 3.6% of US land, so you can run your dogs - whether it's wise or not - on most US land and leave the wildlife, and those visitors who seek to explore wild places as visitors, in peace. 3. Having had many encounters with outlaw dog owners in the parks, it's clear to me that they disrespect the parks, other visitors, and the rules - they're bad neighbors in the parks (and probably in their neighborhoods as well) and don't belong in a place that depends on high (if temporary) neighborliness.
Killer bunny wabbits! By the way, what kind of boots do you wear in this video? or in snow, etc.
I have noticed a lot of horses and mules in US national park$$$$ . Guess they don't count?Canada has amazing national parks and you can bring your Dogs provided they are on leash. Violators beware of the $2000 fine if caught without a leash.
Yeah, unfortunately horses and mules are often allowed. Those things poop all over the trails 😡
@@SUVRVing Exactly wtf
What about survice dogs ?
Thanks for all your research. I have a small dog who is learning to be a therapy dog, which does not get the same recognition as a service dog. What I've always wondered is whether or not small therapy dogs can be taken on trails and to attractions in an enclosed pet stroller. I've looked and nothing is mentioned one way or another. What's your take on that based on your research?
Even with a marked Service Dog, people will "educate" the handler about the dog policy of the park. Not always nicely either. Or send their kids over to tell you the dog isn't allowed.
All good reasons to have rules if you believe rules improve quality of life.
However some people do not acknowledge authority of any form.
Enforcement is key and ultimately determines whether or not your dog is allowed.
The other thing is that they allow horses in the national parks and often there are trail rides with paying customers. Have you ever seen a trail ride rodeo when a horse gets spooked by a human. What do you think will happen when some unknown dog meets a horse. Horses are allowed because of their historic significance. Trail crews that keep all those amazing trails in amazing condition rely on pack animals to carry their gear into the back country. You don’t want to endanger those animals nor the people with them. Well explained though for the other reason Thank You!
Look at the Organic Act which enacted the NPS: The National Park Service was created in the Organic Act of 1916. The new agency's mission as managers of national parks and monuments was clearly stated.
"....to conserve the scenery and the natural and historic objects and the wild life therein and to provide for the enjoyment of the same in such manner and by such means as will leave them unimpaired for the enjoyment of future generations."
Everyone watching this video should read my new book Dog Friendly: A Dis Course. Thank you in advance for informing yourself and other dog owners.
I am not pet friendly. I do not have problems with pets but I do with pet owners. They put their pets above everyone else.
Which is why pet owners dont give a shit about your feelings. If you're inconsiderate from the jump, why should they be?
People almost overlook deer/elk etc that will attack a dog. They skate around the fact of: pack it out. Poop okay there I said it. People will not pick up after their perfect pet.
Bring ur dogs , their basically Bear meat when they enter 😂
Now these rules make 100% sense!
Thanks for watching!
I have had my dog with me while in a national parks, state parks, and provincal parks. It drives me crazy that people have their dogs off leash on trails period. There are dangerous animals, your dog could try and chase one causing some serious problems! Run up to others who maybe aren't dog or pet people, or other dogs that could br aggressive. Heck your dog could get set off by something too. Or it could take off after a small animal. I think if your on a hiking trail respect others and leash your dog and pick up after it it too! I dont care how well behaved your dog is off leash, your just asking for trouble, and i think its disrespectful to other hikers. Your dog should be able to behave both on and off leash.
Service dogs are okay. They are trained and well-mannered. What gets to me or do people who buy a vest and pretend their dog is a service dog. Those people are insulting to those who really need service dogs.
People are more guilty of destruction and the change in animal behavior than any dog. Your presence alters animal behaviour. No? In 40 years of going into the Woods with a dog, I have had many encounters with Black Bear, Coyotes, Raccoons, Fox, Deer, Turkey, an Eagle, Elk, you name it. Never once did any of my dogs actually come in contact with any of them..
I will concede that a person can feel uneasy around an unknown loose dog, but again that situation is created by poor dog owners, not the dog. Leashes and training do exist.😉 All of these examples are human problems. I guess, being an outdoor enthusiasts and dog trainer, that I feel like humans have ruined it for responsible dog owners and their dogs. None of the mentioned examples have ever happened to me and I'm out in nature 4-5 days a week, always with a dog. (Sometimes on leash)
For anybody looking for a NP to visit with your dog, check out Great Sand Dunes NP outside of Alamosa Colorado. It is 100% dog friendly and your dog will Love it. Just follow the rules so it stays dog friendly, please.
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The real reason they aren’t allowed is because they chase the native species such as aliens and big foot and you can’t have those shenanigans.
Don't leave your dog in your rv if it's a whiner
Dumb question. It should be obvious that protected wild animals should be left alone. Dogs chase things. Duh.
I am bringing a dog on our trip and to tell the truth I have seen enough destruction by pets that I respect these rules.
Not watched video yet but why is the title a lie? I know of a few national parks that allows pets, on a leash
Life is too short to have to care for an animal for hours a day.
FYI ... Service dogs or emotional support dogs are required by law to wear a vest that states 'service dog' with ID tags - with the dogs photo, be on leash at all times and owner of the dog should a certificate stating such. So next time you will know.... no vest or leash, don't believe them.
Andrea5065 No, federal law (Americans with Disabilities Act) specifically states that service dogs are NOT required to wear any vest or other identification. There is also no mandatory registration requirement for service dogs in the US. In fact, nearly all of the registries and IDs that people show for their dog are fakes, issued by scam registries that will ‘certify’ anything you submit as long as you pay them. This is one of the reasons so many are able to fake a disability and take their pets in places they shouldn’t be.
www.ada.gov/regs2010/service_animal_qa.html
Q8. Do service animals have to wear a vest or patch or special harness identifying them as service animals?
A. No. The ADA does not require service animals to wear a vest, ID tag, or specific harness.
I've been to parks that indicate distemper is rampant. Always bring your own water bowl for just your dogs. I've had a dog get giardia from Canadian Goose Poop in a pond and she drank from the pond.. and she got very sick with giardia from it with trips to our vet. Sometimes small rodents carry rabies. Even plague. My most interesting experience was watching a large female deer approach me rather menacingly--probably had a fawn nearby?--and as she stepped closer she caught a glimpse of my 60 lb., 26" at the shoulder, blue spayed poodle on leash watching her very closely, and in the flick of an eyelash she leaped away and disappeared. I love travelling with them and they love it.
dogs and bears. dogs and mountain lions. dogs and bison. dogs and elk. dogs and moose. dogs and wolves.
WHICH ANIMAL DOSEN'T FIT INTO THE "WILD" EQUATION???
DOGS
love dogs.....but not in wilderness areas.
period