So I thought England were going to win the 2023 World Cup. Here’s why. | An Eddie Jones Deep Dive
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I've reviewed this year's Six Nations, and it's made me think England are going to win the 2023 World Cup. So just what from England's 2022 Championship and Eddie Jones' 25-year career makes me think rugby's most lovable rogue could finally be about to climb his Everest?
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very funny concept for a welsh fan to put the commentator's curse upon england in such a well-argued way. powerful work.
Sadly squidge isn’t a commentator. He’s right more often than anyone else ever seen. We can hope though 😂
nah squidge never misses
@@finnlunnon7301 aside from saying that Scotland were in contention for the 6 nations this year 😂
@@sumboi2321 they were, they were definitely top 5 lol
I hope he's right but I can't see anyone stopping SA. They're brutal and just suffocate the life out of you, completely closing down sides. Add to that the challenge of AB'S and France etc, it would be an incredible achievement. We shall see, but he is certainly a brilliant tactician.
Well... I think we can confirm that the English Rugby Union does not watch Squidge's videos... Their loss...
Man that video aged painfully '-'
Imagine the number of hours Squidge has spent watching England playing rugby. What a nightmare.
the only nightmare I can think of is watching Welsh rugby 😂 imagine getting dismantled at home against Italy
@@JamesHall-xb7dw beat me to it
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Wales will win the 2023 world cup.
The fact you were so accurate with SA winning 2019 RWC makes me terrified of this statement
same, i already have 66 and 03 plastered in my fucking mind please not another.
At least we have a few years to come to terms with it ig
he also correctly predicted france not winning the 6 nations till 2022 and italy beating wales in the final round
Anyone with a pulse could see SA had a really good chance of winning the RWC 19 once they went back to proper Bok rugby (not six nations)
@@bristolrugby08 huh?
Eddie Jones is the most underappreciated, misunderstood character in the game. He genuinely thinks about the game in a different, more shrewed way to most, the Pep Guardiola of rugby. People say tirelessly they want the game to modernise but then laugh at his radical suggestions. I remember pundits laughing at his refusal to call numbers 16-23 'subs'. Nowadays, every France team selected announces "finishers" just as Jones coined. He has delivered results nearly everywhere he has been, across differing eras and styles discovering some of the greatest players along the way. The England coach is one of the toughest in the sport and England fans of 2015 would have given anything for numbers like Eddie's since then. If we win the WC or not (I don't think my nerves can take it), Eddie should (and I know he won't) go down as one of the greatest coaches of all time.
What radical suggestions?
Eddie Jones is world class at selling Eddie Jones.
@@geoffhiggins742 He literally gave one in his comment, please take the time to actually read something before commenting.
@@geoffhiggins742 Off the top of my head... 1. Calling subs finishers, thereby radicallising how the 23 plays. 2. Suggesting a future of not playing players in traditional positions (hybrid players) which is starting to come to light in how Villiere and Nowell are used and how he picked 2 fullbacks against France to dismantle their ariel game. 3. Although the use of dual playmakers wasn't a new thing in 2015, his idea to play two 10s at 10 and 12 as an axis up to 2019 was certainly a step on again and the envy of most international teams.
Squidge also points out the radical suggestions of Japan not kicking and becoming a running team, using backs in the breakdown to clear out hence halving the average ruck speed and winning SR and how he tries to flow between attacking shapes phase after phase.
Eddie Jones is the Jose Mourinho of rugby not Pep............as in they both have ridiculously punchable faces
I think there was a lot planned that you picked up on. Now that they fired him we'll never know. Can't believe they fired a coach with a 90% win rate at world cups in the lead up to a world cup.
Who's here after Eddie got sacked by England and now coaching Australia?🤣
« Eddie jones has a plan for the semi final » hard to put in motion when you’re fired lol
At times it felt like I was the only Englishman who still had faith in Eddie Jones after that 6 nations tournament
I think you probably are. I’ve been the biggest apologist of Eddie Jones since the RWC19 final, but even I think he’s come to the end of the line.
No you’re not, I’m firmly with you. Most observers have never built a team of any sort over a number of years so have very little clue. Winning and success are an outcome not a process and if EJ says players aren’t good enough, or that the longer term trumps winning tomorrow, then I’m inclined to believe him
I’m absolutely with you. It’s as though the majority of English fans have memory loss. The 6N in 2018 was some of the bluntest, most clueless looking rugby I’ve ever seen from England yet he pulled the team together into their best shape since 2003 by the WC (arguably best ever shape). He is absolutely a mastermind of the game and he understands the crucial need for trial and error in order to make improvements. He utilises the 4 year build up period to its fullest extent.
@@johnmcpartridge556 THANK YOU. People really do have short memories sometimes.
Another Englishman keeping faith with Eddie here, as Squidge points out, remember where we were in '18
This video was amazing. It felt like a great documentary with amazing analysis. Thanks
I live for these Squidge! Keep them coming, love all you do with the channel and your platform!
Great analysis as always. Might be worth mentioning that Eddie Jones already has a World Cup winners medal. He was part of the South African coaching team in 2007.
But he wasn't in charge
Oh yes! Well remembered! Another dismantling of an English side. Such a joy to watch 😉
@@lienky15 reckon England should stop making targets of themselves any top 10 teams could take them down.
I mean, all of your videos are fantastic, but the tactical research here and demonstrations are next level even by your own high standards. Just amazing. Thank you.
Your comments on Smith/Farrell makes complete sense, I hadn’t seen it this way but it completely explains why we missed Farrell so much (when so many believed we wouldn’t). I’m not sure we will win the RWC, but I do believe we will peak at it!
Definitely has made me rethink about Farrell, hope Squidge is right, he often is
Given England’s last performances it can only be better at the WC anyway. We’ll see if it can be called peaking after
The issue is we have had no pace no attacking intent and no power. How an earth is Farrell going to suddenly make any difference in these issues.
Squidge’s salient point on Farrell is how selflessly he plays. That’s how so many people underestimate his influence.
@@vonteflon and you can’t take away his vision of the game, spotting intervals for line runners and all. Just that makes england attack more efficient
Wow a whole video about english rugby without mentioning henry arundell, a rare find nowadays
Henry Arundell is exceptional - but he is untested. Look what happened to LRZ he was dropped from a shit Welsh side, so youth is on their side. Eddie has not mentioned him apart from adding him to the squad.
@@mlguy8376 Agreed, it'll be interesting to see how he slots in with the Smith, Farrell, Tulagi line up.
@@JamesHall-xb7dw he will fit in nicely in terms of attack (if he can keep up with the style that Squidgy is discussing), but not seen enough of his game to conclude about defence apptitude, since I saw a few cases where he was done for position. Which against any international side it is big weakness. Hope he does though.
The way you write sponsors in should be an art form, you make them impossible to skip without completely throwing off where you are in the video
This is the best draw England could hope for. The Left side of the draw is a complete meat grinder where sides have to field the best 23 almost every game. Whoever comes out on top will have lost several starting players to injury. Meanwhile England can afford to rest and rotate a few.
I wouldn’t say the entire left side is a meat grinder but pool B is certainly tricky. In pool A France and the All Blacks only need to field their top sides against each other and can field B sides against the rest including against Italy
@@Alex55455 Yeah, pool B is set to be a blood bath, regardless of which teams make it out of that group. I can see a lot of Key players getting injured for the sides involved
@@sumboi2321 I think he’s also talking about the quarters....France and nz will play either Ireland or SA in the quarters whilst also playing one another in the pools. 2 massive games... England arguably won’t have a massive game until the semi’s with Argentina and Japan in the pools and with the 2nd best of either Wales, Fiji or Aus in the quarters
Getting your excuses in early, I see!
Are you South African by any chance?
@@DanA-fk6tl Just because he's SA doesn't mean he doesn't have a point. The tournament has the 4 top ranked teams all on one side. The very thing basing the groups on rankings is meant to avoid
Love my Boks win or lose, but it's actually interesting hearing about Eddie's growth and ever changing game plans. It's always good to learn and nobody is a better teacher that Squidgie✌🇿🇦
Incredible vid. Had it all. Favourite part was the ending after your thank yous...youre always keeping people on their toes!
This is unbelievably well thought through, your conceptual videos just keep getting better and better.
Squids, the depth of research and the quality of the analysis in this video is totally unparalleled anywhere. You should be proud of this, well done
seing this again after 6 months and we are now never going to know what he had up his sleve.
Fantastic analysis, the time taken to put this together must have been monumental!
I think this was your best video yet, and they are all excellent. Very thought provoking. I learned a lot. I didn't know Eddie's backstory. Just really excellent work. Thank you
An absolutely brilliant analysis. I've been following Rugby since I was 5 (and played for many years before injury got the better of me) and I've never seen these concepts and ideas covered so succinctly and accurately.
As an England fan, I hope you’re right.
Also that Lawes joke at 13:38 tickled me 😂
I don't get it pls explain
@@joshaskew5035
He is of the view that people shouldn’t have kids unless they’re married and financially stable.
To an extent I understand where he’s coming from with the financial side of things, but I think it’s an idealistic viewpoint that completely ignores the realities and curveballs of life. As for marriage, it’s an outdated view imo and it’s also a slap in the face to single parents who have done a good job of raising their kids. Hence why I thought the joke was funny.
This is why Squidge is the best
@@somanytakennames ok thanks
@@somanytakennames How ever you put it the stats are that children do best when the parents are married. It is not outdated just being left behind in our relentless drive to destroy our way of life.
The amount of work you put into your videos is fantastic. Keep up the good work.
Unreal amount of effort put into this!!! Excellent video bro!
Great video. As a fan that has never played the game, I missed all of the nuance when I was watching these live. Thank you.
I must say I broke into a big grin when I saw this title in my sub box. This is really vintage squidge and a return to form- a bit contrarian, but well-evidenced and bold. Doesn't matter if you end up being right or wrong (and frankly there's a lot of luck involved either way) but I really appreciate this content.
Just want to acknowledge the time and effort that's gone into this video. The depth of analysis is brilliant and difficult to find elsewhere (clearly it doesn't exist in the mainstream press and punditry!)
It was great to watch, thank you.
Phenomenal video, great information, research and break down! I really enjoyed that!
Really great video as always. Detailed analysis, funny and a valid point of view. Bashing anyone that works for the Sunday Times is a bonus...
When Eddie saw the RWC pools he must have jumped with joy. England have a good headstart.
Quality content; nothing else like this on UA-cam, thank you for spending the time to analyse England to produce the video
this was incredible, fascinating and deeply encouraging - thanks so much!
Even though I would disagree with a thing or two, this is definitely one of the best rugby analysis ever put together to the broad audience. Take a bow Squidge… and keep then coming
Excellent breakdown,, Squidge. As ever, thoughtful, detailed and my favourite, funny.
Excellent work Squidge might be your best video yet !
An excellent, well researched piece of analysis! Interesting stuff!
I think this and Squidge's deep dive into why George Ford is the best 10 in the world are two of his absolute best videos. He has the presence to think about the wider picture in rugby and not get distracted by popular opinion and flashy play. I love the way he combines light humour (with his Ad segways, Johnny Sexton naming habits, or complete disregard for ridiculous/shallow journalism such as Stephen Jones') with genuinely thought through, insightful rugby analysis that highlights aspects of the game that almost everyone neglects or doesn't even notice. It's amazing how interesting he can make a five minute section talking about the difference of a single ruck. In my opinion the best rugby content creator I've watched.
Forget England, I want the stats on how many times Squidge has used that world cup trophy shot.
It's his go to clip 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent mate.
Congratulations on a great document.
Very interesting, great vid, thank you for the work you put into these.
Loved this. Really glad I’m not the only one who thinks Jones has been employed to try and think a little further ahead of other nations and the British press.
Excellent analysis, brilliantly presented.
I'd love to be a fly in the room wheb Shaun Edwards and the French coaches find out about this video
if Jones stays with England until Judgement Day yes he will win the World Cup
To be fair, it's not exactly hard to think further ahead than the British press!
Eddie Jones is like the Picasso of rugby
Lately his work with England resembles the cubist phase of Picasso career
@@markwillies4330 😄😄😄
Another well constructed and thorough analysis squidge! I had a feeling that England were holding off this year, but I needed this kind of breakdown to justify my speculation
super super insightful, great video squidge!
This gave me the chills. Great video!
This aged unexpectedly quick o.O
I get the feeling that Eddie Jones is good at planning for one particular team.
Your analysis baffles me in its brilliance. It’s a sheer joy to watch and learn from.
Thank you for that amazing analysis. Loved it
Mind blown. I'm 56, and I've been watching rugby all my life. I had no idea 10s were making those kind of calls about the shape of the team on the fly. I was also amazed at the cunning of deliberately running the ball into the big jackal threat to pin him in a ruck. Incredible analysis.
Not sure when Rugby started adopting it at national level, but we got taught this way - play by play positional - playing league at high school (NRL feeder school) in the 90s. Each plan (for next set) was called in advance, depending also on field position. Obviously multiple variants available for each zone.
Several of us switched to club Rugby for u16s and on, and our halves were using calls like this somewhat based on our League knowledge. Not to the depth as they do now (1-3-3-1 wasn't a thing back then, but we played a 2-3-3 style) but definitely calling the next 3-4 plays and positions required, saved every piggy running about wondering if they have to enter the ruck. There were also triggers for next moves depending on the defence's positions. Our halves for those 3 years (u16s-u19s) were incredibly instinctive players, but they were able to shape it for us piggies so well. (FYI, We won 2 of 3 u19 finals, against arguably bigger and better teams).
The teams I played with in opens never really were coached for it, playing much more traditionally with piggies all in a bunch until the backs wanted to hand the ball over...
@@Alaster- Fascinating stuff. The thinkieness of Rugby has increased a lot since I was playing at school (the mid sixteenth century.)
Polishing his resume, that’s what!
Really enjoyed this analysis, cheers mate!
Brilliant analysis mate. Absolutely love your videos!!
EJ is always looking to low key peak at the perfect time. he talks a lot about trying to dip before big events in order to enter a challenge well under the radar while secretly being the biggest threat!!
great video thanks for always working so hard to give us such good content
Amazing vid mate thanks! Not sure I have watched a UA-cam video for that long the whole way through in a while!
Yet another insightful piece - good work Squidge.
A 6 hour version would be great!
I love the Stephen Jones diss, because THIS is real journalism
Who's Stephen Jones?
@@bobrong9645 a nobody
FANTASTIC VIDEO as always!!!
Brilliant analysis once again, thank you
RIP this video
As a baguette boy, I wouldn't be surprise tbh. I remember after we beat the All Blacks in the quarters (but some luck, I admit), we were full of confidence against England. And yeah, Wilkinson happened. While I'm optimistic about our chances, France has the tendancy to get caught up by our own hype when it matters most
And it takes the glare off jones.
My English heart felt it was losing Finnegan for the final. He was my favourite then, he would have had the game won in 80. He'd do Hill. With Loz in his pocket.
France are favorites, hence they won't win. It's baguette etiquette.
"France has the tendancy to get caught up by our own hype when it matters most"
*Le baguette boi walks past a mirror: "oohh lala"
That is what I imagined when I read that.
If history tells us anything, it's that beating the All Blacks in either the quarter or semi finals usually means not winning the tournament.
The only thing that could stop France winning the rwc is the weight of expectation
That sir, was absolutely brilliant! top class analysis
Respect for making such a great video again Squidge. Wish I could subscribe twice
You can. You just need multiple logins.
WOW, I'm not even that into Rugby , I prefer football (although I used to play Fly half at school) but I found myself still watching 20mins into the video, because your breakdown is quite exceptional (for me Rugby vids are not usually likely to hold my attention).
I must commend your thorough and insightful breakdown. You should get coaching badges or something and bring your Video forensics to Pro coaching or something. Genuinely outstanding level of content
Babe wake up Squidge rugby uploaded
Your analysis of France vs England is amazing! Keep on.
That was an amazing video. 👏
Funny how people are happy to take Squidge’s word as gospel until he in any way compliments England or Eddie Jones
I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who likes the English team outside England✌🇿🇦
@@wot4922 means we are doing something right.
@@dulls8475 as you were 👨✈️
@@wot4922 i don't really think many people in England care about being liked, we just see everyone else as people to beat, not to hate
@@Epxy-uu9qc unfortunately, it's exactly this attitude that makes them unpopular...this British Exceptionalism. Be careful, very soon you may need the world and given your arrogance, you may have no support anywhere in the world ✌🇿🇦
I'm really happy to hear someone acknowledging Farrell as one of the best players in the world. I don't even know why he is so hated but he is so bloody good
He is an excellent player, but in many people's opinion a very poor captain which is the root of most dislike for him! Eddie likes him because he follows instructions to the letter, but it is generally accepted (and I certainly believe) that the best captains adapt the game plan as required on the field dependent on circumstances. As well as the Boks played on the day, it was the failure to adjust a plan that wasn't working and adapt to what was in front of them that cost England in the 2019 final - on the field this is the captains responsibility and Farrell was found wanting!
he’s good when things are going well. absolutely no bottle, and leader who loses his head is a liability.
Excellent as always!
What a great analysis, thankyou
Any chance you could do a video about the future of usa rugby with the rwc 2031/2033 being announced and what the prospect of getting warren gatland would mean for the eagles
Just when is English were starting to doubt our blind arrogance that we should win every bit of silverware under the sun, Squidge saves the day
Great video/analysis. Enjoyed that
Great analysis, thanks for that!
Excellent analyses as always. I have to add that player management will be key to England's success as Jones can't afford Smith or Farrel picking up injuries.
He can- but only to one. Ford can fill a Smith sized hole well enough.
Or cards *cough cough* Farrell
Oh for fucks sake Squidge could you not have predicted Chile would win the World Cup instead? I'm worried by these predictive powers
Superb analysis, Squidge.
SQUIDGE HOW DARE YOU GIVE ME HOPE
I wonder if the Boks could be their Kryptonite? Think about the role that PSDT/certain flankers play in taking out/slowing down the 10 as well as other key players.... And also the point that like before, Eddie has a master plan for 1 big game but then comes unstuck once that team is out of the way circa 2019 RWC after beating a superb All Blacks team and then drowning to the Boks in the final. Some food for thought.
The Springboks are gathering, the Rassie magic begins, when those diamonds recover too I feel they can defend their title. Then there's Smith vs Handre.....Care vs Faf))
Just realised, Pieter-Steph Du Toit’s initials are nearly in the same order as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
All this very clever cunning coaching and he has not won a rwc while other coaches have. All very well being clever but he has had some absolute shockers in play. And his selections are strange at best.
It's simple math and logic. The Boks have too many great players on their squad
How do we tell him
that was fantastic; well done
incredibly well done!
There is no other content creator that I get more excited over than a squidge rugby video
The sheer sporting knowledge Squidge has for rugby is simply unparalleled. Amazing stuff as always mate
Another great video, you are going big places
Insight beyond insight. Unbelievable Jeff. Amazing. Thank you.
Commenting before watching the video. I don't think England are going to win the world cup but I'm sure they will perform way better than people expect them to. Let's see if this is what your take is, Squidge, but it baffles me that people have watched Eddie Jones for ages and still don't seem to realize he is a master at designing world cup cycle plans, possibly better than every other international coach. The two first years after a world cup are used to see what members of the current squad are still up to standard, and to test a bunch of new players to see who will sink and who will swim. Year 3 is used to polish the squad and start putting a game style in place. In year 4 he tightens the squad and evolves the game plan. Of course I may be wrong here, but I don't think I am, and I also don't think EJ gives much of a toss about 6 Nations wins - I think he uses them to polish and harden his squads for WCs. Just my 2 cents
I think quite a few other people do also realise this, but it's a viewpoint that tends not to get heard too much though when talking about the 6N, as it doesn't quite add up with the 'World's greatest tournament' tag the sponsors and media push all the time, right? With Eddie himself, the RFU, mainstream sports media and corporate sockpuppets constantly basically gaslighting the rugby public there is little space left in the comments sections either once those guys are done venting their frustrations either.
I agree he doesn't give a flying fuck abot the 6N pretty much. I think its an interesting question but in theory it makes sense to me to be trying a more innovative high risk-high reward strategy, as in my view perhaps England don't quite have the players that some of the other squads do, and a loss by 1 point is still a loss after all in knockout rugby. People are biased by their own national leanings as well and I think its easier to blame the coach than think about whether we have the players or not!
Thank you for putting respect on Eddie Jones name. People forget how much of a genius that man is just because England aren't performing as well as they should be in games. Hopefully you're right and England do win the World Cup because I truly believe no other coach deserves it as much as Eddie does.
That was a very detailed analysis of what I've been trying to tell English friends of mine for the last 12-18 months. I am Australian and obviously a wallabies fan, however Eddie Jones is as you said constantly looking at the big picture. People can slag on Ford and Farrell all they like, but Eddie knows they are very disciplined and intelligent at organising the pods in the line offensively and in a fluid and pragmatic way. You're exactly right when you highlight the fact that he seems to bring dress rehearsals out of certain ways to play against targeted sides, as the world cup is his job to win and these things don't happen overnight without the help of some very iffy tactics and scrum refereeing interpretations as seen in the last world cup with the Boks. First time watching your channel and have instantly subscribed, nice one mate!
Your country will finish better than England in July, and at the rwc
Wow - one of the most insightful videos I’ve ever watched. Thanks
As a biased Frenchman, I'd rather have an Italian or even Uruguayan victory than an English triumph on my own damn land
I mean, even as an England fan I'd rather have a Uruguay victory. Because that is a verdict with some unparalleled drama right there...
why?
@@WillClarke1000 You never know what can happen in rugby, ESPECIALLY during a world cup AHAH
@@benrawson007
While the same is true for all countries in the six nations championship, except perhaps Italy, France has a serious rivalry with England. Matches France-England even have their own name: "le crunch".
As an Englishman I wouldn't expect it any other way. I do enjoy watching France play though .
So, I guess, now we know what is Eddie Jones up to... He is looking for a new job...
I've finally found a hack to watching these brilliant videos. Watching them in a slow playback speed. Always struggled to keep up but now I get it all.
Brilliant stuff 👏