Should You Play Ironman or Mainscape In RuneScape 3?
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I made an Ironman after coming back from a break. I got 2600 total, quest cape, and all gw2 boss log. I felt burnt out so I transitioned it to a main and haven’t look back since. Ironman taught me a lot about the game, especially bosses I’ve never done before. My life got really busy so mainscape fits my lifestyle better. I have an appreciation for both.
yeah time is a big factor when deciding which mode is best
When you say transitioned, did you change your Ironman to normal? Can you do that?
@@JG7W11 yes, you can get any ironman out by talking to the ironman npc and paying a fee in game.
really good and detaield video. I have an ironman and sometimes the grind burns me out. so i play my main and ironman back and forth that way i can grind and not get burned out, and learn PVM on my main so when i play ironman i dont waste recourses
Very smart way of going about it tbf
I think it's about what you want to do and how much time you can commit to it. I recently achievement Master Completionist cape. 1 month shy of 15 years. Couldn't imagine some of the buyable skills to 104M xp, 120. There's also Trim Comp and some of the grinds that are crazy like the champion scrolls. Can take hours of cannoning to get a drop and there are 13. 1/5000 drop rate.
exactly but if you do get that its insane tho, what and achievement and big gzz to u
The thing is, most of the ‘grinds’ don’t even need to be grinds at all. You can do a little here and a little there as you progress through your account. Makes things feel a lot less tedious.
@@TheSCPStudio Exactly! That's how I see it, even as a mainscaper. I'm maxed, but it hasn't been a "grind." I afk train on my phone during the day. I've been playing for 15 years! More than half of my life! That's plenty of time to max. 😎👉🏻👉🏻
Im a maxed main, coming back from a hiatus i jumped into an ironman account to relearn stuff also to experience the newer low-midgame content that has come out since I maxed years ago. Its so fun. Mining/smithing post rework is no longer a pain but actually fun loving this
mining and smithing feels soo natural
@Chevalric never would have thought mining would be a highest lvl for me at the moment lol 2 weeks into this iron acc and I'm at 50 mining and mostly 30 everything else my main struggle right now is herb seeds
I hste mining on osrs but love it on rs3
Dw when you pvm you’ll have enough seeds
@Chevalric I wasn't gonna pvm for a bit lol so theiving is the choice for seeds I'm focusing primarily on minigames and quest unlocks at first
where can i find the efficient ironman guide mentioned in the vid?
Both 😊 I have a 2600 main and a 1000 ironman I just recently started, I love having the option to play either to match my mood
Yeah I have been debating with this for a few days now and I think I've decided a main account is the best option simply because:
I can still force myself to learn the game and do the skilling spots for a little bit, then once I get bored just level past it.. kind of like a fast-forwarded version of the full game experience
I'm still planning to not do MTX and experience everything the game has to offer, but I want to see everything before I end up burning myself out before I get to the later game
I've been a socalled mainscaper for 18 years now, still played the game as if I were blocked off GE's trading post system - I did trades with players in person to refill their resources (pots and foods) back when GWD1 was new... never enjoyed bossing or slayer, got my QP cape 2 weeks prior to divination release (still in my bank!). Recently got my first two 99s (weird with 18 years existance, but IRL required my attention).
really good videos!
Thanks!
Ok so I understand that Ironman mode is harder and CAN be something that makes you feel like you progressed more but I think it depends on the person. Just cause I am on a main doesn’t mean getting a 120 in a skill isn’t any less rewarding. Especially since Jagex themselves came out and said Ironman mode was NOT the way they intended people to play the game in the first place. Yes, some people feel more rewarded by playing Ironman but I don’t. It feels like more of a grind for absolutely no reason to me. By the time you get the item you were grinding for 1,000 KC on a boss you just want to stop and do anything else. The only positive note I have on Ironman is Hardcore Ironman. Now that I can understand playing. I play that on OSRS and you are not only restricted as an Ironman but if you die you are done. That gives a real sense of achievement. All of the sudden that 1,000 KC on a boss to get 1 item realllly feels good cause if you died at all then your account was done. That makes more sense to me. If it’s a regular Ironman, to me, it just feels like a waste of my time.
except rs3 has 3 lives, because you WILL dc and die. thats why they gave the extra lives. its a known fact that its unavoidable, making the mode a bigger waste of time than both iron and mainscape.
@@painnmisery2582 Yes this is true that they gave 3 lives but you have to hit certain total levels to get those lives. You don’t start out with 3. DCs are annoying but that can happen on any account no matter what so I disagree it’s not a waste of time unlike regular iron.
Getting a 120 is 100% more rewarding and harder on a iron what are you talking about. No mtx, no bonus exp, no trading/ge. Every resource has to be farmed out yourself for anything and everything.
@@narutaru6522 I didn’t use mtx or bonus xp on my 120 Farming and I was on a main. If you don’t like mtx or bonus xp dont use it. If you want to get your own supplies, you can do it that way. If you want to buy them with gold, it doesn’t make a 120 any less achieving, you still had to go earn that gold yourself. Unless it was just given to you which would make it not feel good.
@@bloodchron1880 Good point!
I've played a lot of ironman lately. Playing my normal accounts ironically feels kinda cluttered with junk from things like TH and related promos. I'm not against it per se, but It's extra clutter on top.
I do still occasionally miss the GE. Ironman mode tends to be "Hoarders, The Game". You do get good at punching up the ladder in PVM. Feels good when you realize that you have great gear and it's exclusively through your own efforts.
Needing to play everything has really opened up what I can viably play. I don't recommend ironman to new players though at all for the reasons you mentioned. It's hard without an encyclopedic knowledge of the game. After decades of weekly updates, the game is kinda big.
My 2006 account got transfered to rs3 and never played it until logging in during dxp a year ago (didnt know what dxp was). What took me almost 2700 hours in game time to get to att94,str98,def92,magic96 and ranged 91 in 2006 took me one afternoon during dxp to bring all of those to 99. After that I got summoning from 1 to 80 the next day, crafting and smithing from around 40 to 80 and herblore from 70ish to 98. Felt destroyed after this, seeing how I ruined my account in one weekend. No sense of achievement, no joy, just hopelessness to realize this is how things are now. As I got a firecape back in the day after so many attempts of preparation, trial and error, and eventually getting one, I ended up doing both fight caves pretty much going in blind the week after dxp. I quit after that again.
Created an ironman account yesterday and actually enjoy rs3 now.
love that! i can defo imagine that for certain palyers like yourself that pace feels very demotivating especially coming from back in the day. I personally have developed a mindset of; the real achievements are 120 all, comp (t), titles, etc. But it is very understandable not everyone has. trust me 120 all is like grinding max cape back in the day
Have you tried osrs?
I play main on osrs but if I play rs3 later I'll definitely do it as an iron
I quit rs in 2010 and came back in 2015-2016 and startred and ironman. Loved it all the way though
loovee that! what is your current account state?
Guys, i am struggling to start rs3 back as there is too much content. I am a player since 2005. I dont know if i should go back to oldschool, or stay with rs3 or start ironman? Please help
This is a bit late but I also get overwhelmed with rs3 sometime and underwhelmed with osrs. The solution: i play both, on the same account. Both as an ironman, i got bored with my maxed mainscape account. I am not doing lots of progress because I have a job and go to uni so I dont play that much, but any little progress I do feels very good, bc its on an ironman. Obly thing for rs3 is: watch thersguy interface guide to set it up, its a shame they made it so clunky, but once its set up youre ready to go. Id suggest play both (on the same acc so you only need to pay once) and just enjoy the journey I am midgame now and can really enjoy it, I dont care for efficiency too much it really destroys the game imo
I maxed my main and switched to ironman and I'm enjoying a lot more now. I got burnt out playing endgame and running between bosses and G.E. Midgame is so much more fun but that's just me. I have a busy life but I don't care about the efficiency
Idk I play mainscape haven't touched ironman. I only really use the ge to sell things haven't bought anything yet. I guess it just comes down to each person. I enjoy grinding out my stuff so I don't personally buy stuff.
i think with main you have to chance to both play iron style and main syle
I swear this is gold: mainscape burnt me out bc of the all about moneymaking and efficiency philosophy then i started an ironman, played on it for a year and got burnt out because of the time it takes. Its not harder to play, it just takes much longer, especially as an adult thats relevant to me. So i started doing this: i went back to my main but instead of always going for the best weapon/perk/efficiency whatever i just play how i like. If i want some bandos components why buying them? Havent been at graardor for ages! And even if i get unlucky and inpatient, ge is always just one step away so i can help my "luck" with those gps i got from flipping. Ironmanmode has teached my two things: appreciate the time i have to do something fun and doing this fun thing the way i like it to do, not the way its most efficient!
Facts! Play how you like and f efficiency
You have achieved enlightenment, grasshopper. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🦗🦗🦗
I made my account in 2014, and didnt really return untill 2022. Crazy how different the game is.
I relearned the game as an iron, after not playing for years. The issue with learning on a main is, you can just go and buy your way to completion. As an iron, sure, the grind is longer, but you learn pretty much all aspects of the game, including the ones you'd skip past as a main. The result is a better understanding of the game. It also flat out feels more rewarding. A possible downside is, it's harder to earn cash, so it's harder (but still definitely not impossible) to maintain your membership with bonds.
that is actually a very good point tbf
playing as an ironman feels a lot more rewarding when you get that cool drop. I do play my main as an ironman though hahaha
that is very true
9:42 my guy you forgot to drop the link I believe :(
Ironman isn't harder… It's just more time-gated, you have to gather and kill everything yourself.
It's a good concept for those with lots of time to spend, or an insane amount of patience and dedication.
This isn't the case for the majority of players, though, most people either have a full-time job and have been playing the same account for years.
Or they're students with far too much time to play, like we the old guard used to have.
Imagine growing up playing this video game over the past 10-15 years spent on building an account (Which by the way, is still the majority as the average player has spent 8 years on this game), meanwhile you work a full-time job now, maybe even have a family.
Most don't have the time required to play as an ironman.
Play whatever game mode suits your situation, if you have the patience to grind for everything yourself and have the patience and capability to accept that you might go hundreds of hours dry on RNG, become an ironman.
If not, play a normal account.
Achievements are set by yourself in this sandbox game, they can still feel rewarding even on a normal account.
That's what harder means though. It require a great deal of endurance or effort. Doing everything yourself, no buying anything be it for skilling, quests, achievement, etc.
@@zeldapro18 Everyone makes it sound like it is way more difficult, yet it isn't.
It's just hella time-consuming.
@@bjorn3152 Difficult, harder pretty much the same thing, effort which is the time consuming part. Having to know how to get EVERYTHING which you would use the wiki more then a normal account. Upkeeping a bond if you don't use a main or spend irl money. Whatever word you use, ironman requires a great deal.
@@zeldapro18 It's time-consuming like digging a hole with a spoon instead of a shovel.
@@zeldapro18 time doesnt mean harder, or more difficult.
mainscape burnt me out. you buy all your resources/gear to skip playing the game, so that you dont have to play the game.
once youve maxed and got full bis, which you can do in less than a year, you no longer have a reason to play outside of socialization, comp, 120/200m. most people arent going for 200m, or even 120 unless its a "real" 120.
you grind gp for...nothing. its not about just wanting to only pvm, otherwise you wouldnt do only the highest gp/hr boss. and thats only for the ones that actually pvm in the first place.
i wouldnt be surprised if pvmers/compers are a minority, feel like people stop as soon as they hit 99 or 120 in skills like herb/farm/etc and then just farm gp for no reason. dont train with the gp, dont go for comp, and buy bis and then never use it on anything harder then normal mode arch glacor. and then dont even socialize after speeding their way to a socialization only point.
I would think there'd wouldn't be a way to actually know that for the majority of the playerbase. And now with death costs -90% of what they use to be pvm is less intimidating. As a 15 year player I couldn't see playing normally maxing an account of 99s and maybe real 120s AND BiS gear in less then a year unless you spend irl money on the game. There's always something to buy even if it doesn't do anything. If you're playing this game and like it you have to set goals for yourself. Smaller goals for a big one you may want. Lastly there many ways to make gp and enjoy doing it; pvm that you doing need high level gear or skills to do. Skilling, clues, etc.
I stopped playing around the time of the gwd3 boss release, the amount of switches and powercreep that came into combat was just too much for me. however i've since started another HCIM skiller and love the game,
My reasoning for HCIM is "Built, not bought" and death abuse is impossible, it makes everything more risky.
The main thing to keep me playing on mainscape is the idea that I can earn and sell things to easily pay for my membership. The super rare dye find is the only thing that keeps my iron alive every other year!
yeah i can imagine ironman being hard for people who cannot afford membership
If you're goal focused, Iron.
If you are wealth focused Main.
Honestly, if rs3 had a client like osrs has runelite. I think it’d be more popular
Probably
I think the further you progress your skills into IM and the more you gain an interest in PvM, the quicker you're going to swap your account to mainscape lol
I think for RS3 you MUST be an ironman just so you don't have to worry about mtx tarnishing achievements
I guess
being a main is nice because you are being a patron for Jagex and thats nice. Ironman is for the people that wanna play the game.
Ironman is the one thing that fixes everything wrong about RS3
It's pretty simple for me... It's a MMO so relying on players and the community is something what makes it a MMO. That's why I don't play ironman.
Ironman mode should be the only mode
Edit: mainscape + ignoring the GE and MTX/KEYS/LAMPS most of the time should be the only mode
For the most part if someone likes to play the game by keeping all their supply drops and using them to level, I reccomend trying ironman. If youre the type who likes to sell all drops and use the gp to buy what you need/want then I still say try it but expect the person to not enjoy it.
yep
everything you said about the pros of ironman you can do on a main, achievement is based on you and how it makes you feel, can feel the same way on a main.
as for mtx thats just a dumb argument, mtx doesnt change the game if you play a iron or main.
as for ge, just because you play a main doesnt mean you HAVE to use the ge
After playing an ironman, I genuinely have no idea how anyone enjoys mainscape. When you're essentially able to buy everything you could possibly need off the GE, it completely disincentivizes doing anything that doesn't make you the most money. I mean, hell, you could pretty much buy all boss drops off the GE using the money you get from farming a single boss over and over again. Need barrows gear? Cool, you don't even need to do Barrows; just buy it.
Don't get me wrong-there are absolutely some ironman grinds that feel blatantly unfair and make you want to switch to a main account (herblore being a prime example). However, some of the really interesting grinds that you have to do as an ironman (such as mining tens of thousands of gems to get 80 crafting, doing the tuska minigame for early-game magic gear, etc.) really adds a ton of depth to the game and helps you to appreciate the journey of progressing far more than a mainscape account ever could.
playing as a main doesn't mean you have to use GE, i gather my own stuff and make my own stuff and i play as a main.
@@Oriii-uu4py I would actually agree with you. I've been playing that exact way on a main account on OSRS recently. It's nice to have the freedom of being able to "buy" your way out of doing something that you absolutely dread, yet still feeling the accomplishment of getting things yourself. That said, I think that applies far more to OSRS than RS3, though, simply because RS3 has become far more ironman friendly through quality of life updates over the years.
no one forcing you to buy your way out of stuff
no one forcing you to use the ge on a main.
everything you said that you do that gives you depth to the game can be done on a main lol
it seems more like you think people would judge you if you didn't follow this imaginary meta on how to play the game properly.
I'm not saying how you should play and not saying don't play iron, i just find it silly on some of the reasons why people do it. but then later learn they de-iron later game due to some grinds being to much lmao
@@Oriii-uu4pyI think you misinterpreted my reply to you, lol. I was fully agreeing with you!
@@insidiouslol2682 hmm i think my reply was made for someone else and i ended up sending to you lol was responding to many others on this one.
my bad lmao
but one thing is i do feel like osrs has been more heavily catered too than rs3 in terms of ironman, they keep making the mode way to easy on osrs for them.
I hate p2w so much…ironman is the way 🙌🏻
What stops me and probably 90% of people is quests if I could buy them with bonds I'd be one broke mother trucker
A quest helper would be cool
Just use quick guides on the wiki. I absolutely love doing quests lol
It's literally just following a checklist for the most part. Only quests that are a struggle in any way involve extremely tedious puzzles or hard bosses.
I never seen quests as a big deal whatsoever. There a quick guide on the wiki for all of them. You just need skill levels and some teleports to get around. Maybe it's because some just mash the spacebar and don't even lightly pay attention. If you're not going for comp you don't need to do all of them. Just my 2 cents.
As a quest hater and ironman myself, yep it was rough do quests
i swear no one every point this out. you need to pay membership with irl money when your playing iron/hcim...
Technically you don't if you have a main account which is probably why people never mention it. You can even make an account just to buy membership for yourself.
Of course, would be a massive hassle.
Cant you buy bonds on ge or is that just osrs
@@ChevalricRS There are bonds in both RS3 and OSRS.
Ironmen can't use the GE lol
Someone can use a bond on you though (non-ironman using bond on ironman).
@@TheAwkwardGuy I have an account where I play ironman on RS3 and normal account on OSRS, I buy my bonds on OSRS and play ironman on RS3 with the same bonds
@@soufsoufs That's how I started on RS3 lol
Had members from OSRS funding my RS3 main. Now I use RS3 main money.
Tbh it's a bit of a hassle but yeah it's all fun.