The Bond Price Increase Is NOT What You Think

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  • Опубліковано 21 чер 2024
  • Runescape has increased their bond prices, but what is the real reason for them making that decision; as i think it might be different to what you expect!
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  • @codybeck5110
    @codybeck5110 Місяць тому +9

    I think the bond price increase is mainly due to osrs and upcoming game modes. It probably has little to nothing to do with rs3. Another big thing is the people actually using bonds for membership are not who most people think. In 95% of cases it isn't new f2p players buying them for members, it's the uber rich with excess billions of coins using them on memberships/keys (and it has been this way for a very long time).

    • @roxaskinghearts
      @roxaskinghearts Місяць тому +2

      private servers are more popular then runescape

    • @roxaskinghearts
      @roxaskinghearts Місяць тому +2

      o 12$ gets access to ffxi and xiv both far more bang for your buck

    • @roxaskinghearts
      @roxaskinghearts Місяць тому +2

      and fyi for millions of players what does runescape give us more grindy content not more quality content why xiv is winning

    • @roxaskinghearts
      @roxaskinghearts Місяць тому +2

      funny how minecraft warframe and fortnite dont just wipe the floor with these games heck genshin impact sees more players then osrs or then there is palworld

  • @Avridus
    @Avridus Місяць тому +3

    I think a middle ground would be making bonds a set price through an NPC. For example a bond equals 120M, for example, and it's price never changes either through in-game or IRL. This would guarantee that the free to play player could grind up for that in-game membership and as well stop bonds from being manipulated in the market. Bonds would be like spirit shards where the price is consistent.

  • @scoutzch416
    @scoutzch416 Місяць тому +2

    As a person who was getting membership via ingame money, i get permanently banned on my 17 years old account and my year old ironman because i traded bonds to my ironman and get premium membership. I tried to create ban appeal / ticket, but i reaelized my ban is marked as "not appealable". So yeah long story short, they couldn't care less because i wasn't providing them any value and +1 player doesn't mean anything to Jagex because they got all theese bots in their game, 300 million accounts celebration nonsense is kind of proving my point as theese include account which got banned + most of them are bots.

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification 20 днів тому +1

      They need people to buy membership with bonds to remove bonds from circulation.
      If you buy membership with bonds, then you could say that Jagex gave you free membership to farm gp for gold buyers.
      You are the gold farmer.

    • @scoutzch416
      @scoutzch416 20 днів тому +1

      @@yt.personal.identification Yeah that makes sense, but there is one more thing which is removing bonds, all the new stuff they have added recently to bond shop, right now there are so much demand for bonds but not enough bond on the g.e. so prices are skyrocketing.

  • @Jolfgard
    @Jolfgard Місяць тому +1

    4:55
    You were just going on about sales pitches. An MMO with a large playerbase makes for a far better sales pitch than an MMO with a skeleton crew. It's why goddamn Amazon tolerated that bots figuratively ate through the Western version of Lost Ark for so long.

  • @yt.personal.identification
    @yt.personal.identification 20 днів тому

    A person buying membership with bonds is important to the bond economy.
    That is one of the key methods they are removed from circulation.
    Of course, some are used for keys and coins, but membership would remove a great many from circulation.
    If you buy membership with bonds, then you are the gold farmer hired by Jagex to supply the gp buyers.

  • @Jolfgard
    @Jolfgard Місяць тому +2

    RL price and supply aren't the issue. Demand is. Runescape is constantly introducing new use cases for Bonds. THIS is what drives ingame prices of Bonds. The increase in bond prices is hardly more than an inflation adjustment to the price of Jagex' most popular product.
    And yes, if it can be purchased for money, it is as much a product as a membership is.

    • @Lead1121
      @Lead1121 Місяць тому

      Inflation adjustment right after they just did one? This is Greed motivated, not inflation adjustment

    • @Jolfgard
      @Jolfgard Місяць тому

      @@Lead1121 "Right after they did one"? In what world do you live in where 2 fiscal years isn't an eternity in business?

    • @Lead1121
      @Lead1121 Місяць тому

      @@Jolfgard price of membership trend shows that the shortest time period for when the price of membership was updated was 3 years. Since this is the second bond increase, we don't have a trend yet. Based off the membership price increase we can conclude that 2 years is the shortest time Jagex has done yet to "adjust". This will become the new trend until it is yearly. Which, mark my words, this slippery slope will go yearly with people like you defending this practice

    • @Jolfgard
      @Jolfgard Місяць тому

      @@Lead1121 We do not have a trend yet? Your comment on my comment suggested otherwis. Your very argument centered around a trend you identified.

    • @Lead1121
      @Lead1121 Місяць тому

      @@Jolfgard bond "trend" has happened twice therefore hard to call it a trend yet. The price increase of
      Membership is a trend. We can guess that bonds will follow the same way membership does but at this point it's highly accelerated. Either I wasn't clear or you didn't understand my point. Either way. This is not normal adjustment for inflation, it's greed. Plain and simple

  • @mikeyr1316
    @mikeyr1316 Місяць тому +1

    Life is tough! We are going to have to pay for membership...

  • @cheekyjebus5559
    @cheekyjebus5559 Місяць тому +2

    WoW has never increased its sub in 20 years, runescape increasingly offers less game and more MTX while constantly jacking the price on all the services, and now bonds twice in two years. Jagex just got brand new investors who demands maximum dividends and an immediate return on their investment, so yes it quite frankly just is ooga booga greedy moneygrab, people tolerating this shit is why the game is dying.

  • @jasonwhaples3056
    @jasonwhaples3056 Місяць тому

    Bonds are one of the biggest actual “gp” sinks in the game so they benefit the economy greatly. Look at rs3 gp it’s hardly worth anything if we’re considering real life cash and Osrs gp is not to far behind if there’s no money sink even with company greed your average person has a similar mind set where they can spend irl $$$ and not have to grind in game without risking ban from websites to buy it so those players who would rather spend some real life dollars to get top end gear keep the economy stronger and if you simply play the game and “grind” (which both Osrs and rs3 are “grinding” games) then really it doesn’t matter if the price increases. Also if your that stressed over a dollar then go to the gp selling websites and just buy the gp there for $0.20/m for Osrs and $0.02/m for rs3. Seems like majority of players just like to complain about stupid things when really you don’t have to buy bonds and if your buying bonds to get your B.I.S gear your missing most the game anyways go cry somewhere else

  • @jasonvors1922
    @jasonvors1922 Місяць тому +2

    Jagex knows and can look at gp selling sites and see that it is way more reasonable to buy from sites than it is to buy bonds, Jagex are making mistakes all the time and it is going to catch up to them and they will not recover their loses.

    • @joshmonaco6170
      @joshmonaco6170 Місяць тому +1

      I don't think so. With Jagex I know I'm buying from a reputable company and my card info is safe. With 3rd party sellers you are opening yourself up to a lot of risk. For one you're risking a ban every time you use one, and there's no guarantee you'll actually get what you paid for, but more importantly your card info could get stolen or sold. That's the whole reason bonds were introduced in the first place, Jagex was getting letters from banks stating they would lose their services if they didn't get the crazy amount of charge backs under control.

    • @jasonvors1922
      @jasonvors1922 Місяць тому

      @@joshmonaco6170 180$ for 20 bonds at 9$ each, Jagex is smoking that dwarfen kush out of a trash bag. Cause at that price you can have over 5b gp from a gold selling site.

  • @Lordrazrs
    @Lordrazrs Місяць тому +6

    Premier Membership is £60.00
    20 bonds for a year is £100.00, soon increasing to £120
    Ive already stopped being members so it doesnt matter to me but this is just short term greed pushing more people to de-member and eventually quit. And unlike before when the barrier to re-joining was low, people wont be coming back

    • @The_Dig_Site
      @The_Dig_Site Місяць тому

      no one is going to buy bonds with irl money to then buy membership with them

  • @Resouler
    @Resouler 21 день тому

    you are so wrong, lets assume all of the player are legit: p2p player that buy bonds are basicly jagex's bots in a sense if you think about it :d you generate gp that they sell so you can play or whatnot

  • @vexyn3941
    @vexyn3941 Місяць тому +1

    yea fk the broke people! xD

  • @toofragile825
    @toofragile825 Місяць тому +3

    come on now... get a job and pay for your games. no more momy and daddy credit cards is hitting some people hard i see lol

  • @thechinesevirus9628
    @thechinesevirus9628 Місяць тому

    Honestly if youre good at pvm the bond increase is nothing i pay membership with bonds and right now i could take 1 to 2 hours at rasial to pay for it which is nothing