Hi fellas. I joined Marbin's Patreon recently, and I gotta say... it’s hands down the best resource I’ve found so far. To be honest, I keep thinking, 'Man, I wish I’d discovered this earlier!'. The inside is AMAAAAZIIIING!!!! Great lesson btw! Thanks for sharing Dani! 🎸🎸
Yo why the hell isn’t this guy more popular? These lessons are legitimately the best I’ve seen, even above Jens Larson. Kudos Marvinmusic, this shit’s banging.
i have lost count how many times i have watched this video in the past few weeks been studying CAGED obsessively for over a month now and i keep coming back here just to confirm information because it was where everything clicked for me
Man, your content is awesome! I love your non bs style. I've played guitar for about 20 years with long breaks along the journey. I took lessons for the first 3 years with a really good teacher learning theory ect.. You are the guy! Out of all UA-cam guitar channels this is the one worth spending your time on and supporting. I'm currently unemployed, but hopefully in the near future i'll be a patreon supporter. Thanks Dani!
I think I remember seeing that same Joe Pass video. I remember him saying that the D form is really just part of the C form. This is a great lesson! I’ve been trying to move across caged shapes recently to break out of boxes and patterns
I think this is the breakthrough ive been looking for. Ive always thought "switching scales" over each chord was problematic as it has a similar problem to changing chords super directly. You lose the voice leading and the melodic nature of it all. But i thought "if I could play a chord progression in one position of the fretboard, then i wouldn't sound so melodically messy. Cant wait for more practice!
What I don't quote fully understand is playing the minor box over the major c, you mentioned just resolving to the 3rd instead of the -3rd, not really understanding the context of when I would the play minor pent over the major chord of C. Welcome any help. Thanks! Great lesson
connecting pentatonics to each position was the most confusing part for me, because i thought each area could have at least 3 shapes, but i doubled checked on fretflip, and kinda works, but it conflicts with the omitted 4th and 7th, so its really only 1 pentatonic shape for each area to worry about
Hey Dani, is there some kind of structured lesson pattern available anywhere with your teaching? This content is the best i've seen, but i need some kind of schedule or ordering principle to get anything meaningful done.
Most beginners learn the open CAGED chord without realising that you can move them around the entire fretboard. Once you discovered the movable Caged chord, then you can learn about triads [ 1 3 5 ] music intervals. It is good to know the name of the chord tones played by which music notes [ Example : C Chord - C E G ]. Then you can group adjacent strings and play all the different triad chord shapes ( common shell voicing) throughout the entire guitar fretboard..
You make that 'C with a G form' shape look absurdly easy. How did you get to that point? Edit: Specifically with being able to make your pinky do that.
When you are talking about boxes, what are you talking about?? Loving the content and feel like this might be the missing link for me, but when you say “the 4th box” what does that mean?
Caged is an awesome concept, but I hate the naming of the shapes. It’s an extra mental step to think of one chord while you play another. Never got it going that way. Just learn roots, octaves shapes and intervals. That’s caged stripped down, building from 1 note, rather than monstrous shapes. And you will understand the importance of 3rd and 7ths a whole lot better. Caged doesn’t teach that, it’s more to get you going fast without knowing what you’re doing. I would not recommend it for beginners honestly. I find it rather useful now I understand degrees and their function. Yet, I don’t think caged chords, but see more navigation dots.
I never got so hung up on the chord names as you're describing. That's because I only think of the acronym as useful simply for identifying the different shapes. To me it's just a tool to help you visualize and then once you have the fretboard pretty well in your head in a given key. Having already internalized the order of the shapes on the neck, I would never think of the acronym anymore; it's not something that you need to continue thinking about once you have it under your fingers. It was extremely useful to me when I was learning the neck, but only in terms of seeing how the intervals are laid out; for me the goal was always to be able to move around without consciously thinking about any of the theory. But the caged system just made total sense to me in the beginning and helped me get to the point where I didn't need to think about it anymore.
I somehow figured out something similar to cage by myself (decades ago). In my mind, they are not "C in A shape, C en G shape, C im E shape" etc. I actually tried that but it only confused me. In my mind they are just C... "C here, then here, then here..."
@@AnaSwindall close call with the marshmallows but after a careful look at the details of your case I determined that you are not a campfire girl. Good job!
Great lesson, but your five pentatonic boxes are mis-named, and 99.5% of guitar teachers do this, and it is confusing to new players. Do you want to really stand out? Please hear me out: You call the A minor box the Root, which is fine, but then you call the next box "two", but it begins on the minor 3rd, not the two! To be consistent, for minor pentatonic, call the boxes 1, m3, 4, 5, b7. But there is an even better way. Since natural minor is just a mode of the major scale, name your boxes 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 after the major scale. So if you are starting at the A minor typical 5th fret pentatonic, your boxes are in this order: 6, 1, 2, 3, 5. By naming your boxes after the major scale degree that they start on at the low E string, you have both E strings as guide markers. You therefore leverage music theory by numbering your boxes after the major scale. Minor is no problem, because we should all know our relative major/minor, I'm sure you would agree. With this system, I am able to stay in one place and know which box pattern to play no matter the major or minor chord that is playing, rather than having to move up and down on the fretboard, unless I want to. I figured this out on my own some years ago, but never realized the power of it, until I ran across a jazz-fusion teacher on YT that was teaching the same thing! I then became a believer in this system.
That’s a very bad idea because it will inhibit you from applying other pentatonics to a chord. There are 3 minor pentatonic scales in every major scale which means that every chord/mode that comes out of the major scale has 3 pentatonics that fits it. For example over a D Dorian you can use Dm pent Em pent and Am pent but if you name the boxes intervalically you’d have have a very hard time seeing that over that chord. Naming things as they relate to ONE modal center quickly becomes a game of diminishing returns as application become easier and easier in one situation at the expense of others.
@@marbinmusic Well, not so fast! :-) I am aware you can play the 2,3,6 of the minor pentatonic over a major chord. This is the same as playing the 4,5,1 of the major pentatonic over the major chord. So for example: The parent scale is G major. I want to play all three pentatonics at the 5th fret, so my pentatonic scales are C major, D major, and G major, as that's the 4,5,1 of G. Starting note is A (5th fret 6th string). It's easy to find all my pentatonic pattern numbers right there. Those would be pattern 6 (because A is the 6 of C), pattern 5 (because A is the 5 of D), and pattern 2 (because A is the 2 of G). The typical pattern numbers that only make sense at some points but not others have no logical foundation or basis in music theory. My system makes sense at all points. Think about it. Why would you use lazy pattern numbers that have zero relationship with music theory? Just because most teachers do it that way? In what way does the illogical pattern numbers help a student navigate the fretboard? I can't think of any help they give. When I was a student new to the pentatonic patterns, yes, I could find them going up and down in order, but to skip patterns, I was lost. In realizing I could leverage music theory by properly naming my patterns after the major scale degrees, that solved it for me.
Hi fellas. I joined Marbin's Patreon recently, and I gotta say... it’s hands down the best resource I’ve found so far. To be honest, I keep thinking, 'Man, I wish I’d discovered this earlier!'. The inside is AMAAAAZIIIING!!!! Great lesson btw! Thanks for sharing Dani! 🎸🎸
I love this man, best teacher ever
And how!
What are the other 4 vids? 😂
This fucking channel is already better than a lot of well known books.
Yes, I'm talking about your two books about jazz Mark Lavine
Yo why the hell isn’t this guy more popular? These lessons are legitimately the best I’ve seen, even above Jens Larson. Kudos Marvinmusic, this shit’s banging.
That’s what I want to know
The smartest guy giving lessons today. Also the right balance of memes and the secrets of the universe. A masterpiece
dude holy crap this video is top tier you could just watch this 300x and not need much else
i have lost count how many times i have watched this video in the past few weeks
been studying CAGED obsessively for over a month now and i keep coming back here just to confirm information because it was where everything clicked for me
Man, your content is awesome! I love your non bs style. I've played guitar for about 20 years with long breaks along the journey. I took lessons for the first 3 years with a really good teacher learning theory ect..
You are the guy!
Out of all UA-cam guitar channels this is the one worth spending your time on and supporting. I'm currently unemployed, but hopefully in the near future i'll be a patreon supporter.
Thanks Dani!
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All the lessons in this channel are really clear and well done. Worth watching
WHAT THE FUCK IS OPEN C MINOR?! did not expect that, spit my drink out. 10/10. Liked AND subscribed
Amazing editing a d your a hero
You rock Marbin! awesomely clear no bullshit approach, I love it
You are a gentlemen and a scholar - thank you sir.
Love your videos! Your funny, to the point, and oh, I learn a lot in a really short time. Thank you!
Wow, best lesson ever on this topic ! Thanks !
I think I remember seeing that same Joe Pass video. I remember him saying that the D form is really just part of the C form. This is a great lesson! I’ve been trying to move across caged shapes recently to break out of boxes and patterns
Awesome!
This is one of the 5 videos on UA-cam sufficient to make you good guitar player. Not sure what the other 4 are, maybe Dani knows.
Thank you. They are all on our channel. Better watch all of the vids to make sure.
@ the last video was so convincing I may do whatever you say.
Amazing transmission of knowledge ❤️
I think this is the breakthrough ive been looking for. Ive always thought "switching scales" over each chord was problematic as it has a similar problem to changing chords super directly. You lose the voice leading and the melodic nature of it all. But i thought "if I could play a chord progression in one position of the fretboard, then i wouldn't sound so melodically messy. Cant wait for more practice!
truly the most understandable teacher in yt very clear no bullshit. kapara aleha
I have big hands with long fine fingers and even I struggle with some of these insane chord shapes.
What I don't quote fully understand is playing the minor box over the major c, you mentioned just resolving to the 3rd instead of the -3rd, not really understanding the context of when I would the play minor pent over the major chord of C. Welcome any help.
Thanks! Great lesson
@@Van-Som literally all the time. It’s how you play bluesy on a I chord
@ I just figured you’d play the major pent shapes over C instead of the minor. The dominant chords get confusing
One of the best UA-cam Channels that Exist.
Thank you!
You are so good. I haven't even wantched yet and I know it's gunna be good
Thanks ! CAGED is the nature of the guitar with the open string EADGB(C) you explain it very well
Glad you liked it!
After hundreds of CAGED lessons, this is the right „adult“ stuff.
Superb info
Thanks! Glad it's useful
connecting pentatonics to each position was the most confusing part for me, because i thought each area could have at least 3 shapes, but i doubled checked on fretflip, and kinda works, but it conflicts with the omitted 4th and 7th, so its really only 1 pentatonic shape for each area to worry about
Hey Dani, is there some kind of structured lesson pattern available anywhere with your teaching? This content is the best i've seen, but i need some kind of schedule or ordering principle to get anything meaningful done.
@@Selkeyttaja our patreon
@@marbinmusic Awesome! You’ll get a sub then 👍
Most beginners learn the open CAGED chord without realising that you can move them around the entire fretboard. Once you discovered the movable Caged chord, then you can learn about triads [ 1 3 5 ] music intervals. It is good to know the name of the chord tones played by which music notes [ Example : C Chord - C E G ]. Then you can group adjacent strings and play all the different triad chord shapes ( common shell voicing) throughout the entire guitar fretboard..
You make that 'C with a G form' shape look absurdly easy. How did you get to that point?
Edit: Specifically with being able to make your pinky do that.
Can't stop hearing that Run The Jewels x DJ Shadow track
This is great.
That eighth note voice leading demo... sort of unpacked JS Bach's compositional approach. Or is that too much? Maybe more Pachelbel then.
When you are talking about boxes, what are you talking about?? Loving the content and feel like this might be the missing link for me, but when you say “the 4th box” what does that mean?
The 4th position of minor pentatonic
It is the missing link
Can’t unhear “Tuesdays Gone”by Lynyrd Skynyrd in the arpeggio section. The harmony is almost exactly what you outlined
I’m taking a shit rn
Same
Natural born teacher…your Patreon is tha sh**t!
Slowing it down now. 😊
🙌🏼 thanks for watching
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This is the missing link!
Which Gibson is this one?
ES-175!
Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness.
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If you're reading this, go watch The Holy Mountain right now.
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That Joe Pass, that guy….😮
🍝
oh this guy can definitely play bebop
Caged is an awesome concept, but I hate the naming of the shapes. It’s an extra mental step to think of one chord while you play another. Never got it going that way. Just learn roots, octaves shapes and intervals. That’s caged stripped down, building from 1 note, rather than monstrous shapes. And you will understand the importance of 3rd and 7ths a whole lot better. Caged doesn’t teach that, it’s more to get you going fast without knowing what you’re doing. I would not recommend it for beginners honestly. I find it rather useful now I understand degrees and their function. Yet, I don’t think caged chords, but see more navigation dots.
I never got so hung up on the chord names as you're describing. That's because I only think of the acronym as useful simply for identifying the different shapes. To me it's just a tool to help you visualize and then once you have the fretboard pretty well in your head in a given key. Having already internalized the order of the shapes on the neck, I would never think of the acronym anymore; it's not something that you need to continue thinking about once you have it under your fingers.
It was extremely useful to me when I was learning the neck, but only in terms of seeing how the intervals are laid out; for me the goal was always to be able to move around without consciously thinking about any of the theory.
But the caged system just made total sense to me in the beginning and helped me get to the point where I didn't need to think about it anymore.
I somehow figured out something similar to cage by myself (decades ago). In my mind, they are not "C in A shape, C en G shape, C im E shape" etc. I actually tried that but it only confused me. In my mind they are just C... "C here, then here, then here..."
Lo and behold, my crying shameful moment is in not knowing all the blues scales in each position! I'm gonna need a little time alone.
Shame shame shame 🔔🔔🔔
As a girl who loves your videos, I will admit I like marshmallows, but my fretboard is strictly for blues/jazz-not campfire chords.
@@AnaSwindall close call with the marshmallows but after a careful look at the details of your case I determined that you are not a campfire girl. Good job!
Great lesson, but your five pentatonic boxes are mis-named, and 99.5% of guitar teachers do this, and it is confusing to new players. Do you want to really stand out? Please hear me out:
You call the A minor box the Root, which is fine, but then you call the next box "two", but it begins on the minor 3rd, not the two! To be consistent, for minor pentatonic, call the boxes 1, m3, 4, 5, b7.
But there is an even better way. Since natural minor is just a mode of the major scale, name your boxes 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 after the major scale.
So if you are starting at the A minor typical 5th fret pentatonic, your boxes are in this order: 6, 1, 2, 3, 5.
By naming your boxes after the major scale degree that they start on at the low E string, you have both E strings as guide markers.
You therefore leverage music theory by numbering your boxes after the major scale. Minor is no problem, because we should all know our relative major/minor, I'm sure you would agree.
With this system, I am able to stay in one place and know which box pattern to play no matter the major or minor chord that is playing, rather than having to move up and down on the fretboard, unless I want to.
I figured this out on my own some years ago, but never realized the power of it, until I ran across a jazz-fusion teacher on YT that was teaching the same thing! I then became a believer in this system.
That’s a very bad idea because it will inhibit you from applying other pentatonics to a chord. There are 3 minor pentatonic scales in every major scale which means that every chord/mode that comes out of the major scale has 3 pentatonics that fits it.
For example over a D Dorian you can use Dm pent Em pent and Am pent but if you name the boxes intervalically you’d have have a very hard time seeing that over that chord.
Naming things as they relate to ONE modal center quickly becomes a game of diminishing returns as application become easier and easier in one situation at the expense of others.
@@marbinmusic Well, not so fast! :-)
I am aware you can play the 2,3,6 of the minor pentatonic over a major chord. This is the same as playing the 4,5,1 of the major pentatonic over the major chord. So for example:
The parent scale is G major. I want to play all three pentatonics at the 5th fret, so my pentatonic scales are C major, D major, and G major, as that's the 4,5,1 of G.
Starting note is A (5th fret 6th string). It's easy to find all my pentatonic pattern numbers right there. Those would be pattern 6 (because A is the 6 of C), pattern 5 (because A is the 5 of D), and pattern 2 (because A is the 2 of G).
The typical pattern numbers that only make sense at some points but not others have no logical foundation or basis in music theory. My system makes sense at all points.
Think about it. Why would you use lazy pattern numbers that have zero relationship with music theory? Just because most teachers do it that way?
In what way does the illogical pattern numbers help a student navigate the fretboard? I can't think of any help they give. When I was a student new to the pentatonic patterns, yes, I could find them going up and down in order, but to skip patterns, I was lost. In realizing I could leverage music theory by properly naming my patterns after the major scale degrees, that solved it for me.
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I'm just taking whatever you're giving and applying it to bass idc
Campfire girls..sounds nice ,forget guitar ;)
Do not learn caged, it's for lazy people. Just learn the 72 notes on the fretboard. 6 strings, 12 frets. Stop looking for shortcuts.
@@rijancaffe sound to me like you need some CAGED