I went multiple times on downswing... But for 20 max 30 buyins... Maybe go back for 1 or 2 weeks and play at lower stakes, play against weaker opponenents, win and get back that good felling of winning... Just my 2cents on the situation gl at the tables@@BenaBadBeatPoker
Really appreciate this level of transparency. It helps so many people to know that this type of run bad can happen to the best in poker. Also, personally it helps to know that even with such an elite mental game it will still have an impact to some extent and that that is ok. Looking forward to seeing the inevitable epic turnaround!
Me and my best friend play for a living, much smaller than you do, but we both look up to you as the most skilled poker player to ever make content (and one of the best poker players in the world period). The knowledge you give out for free is unmatched by anyone else in this space. Keep going ben, and keep our dream alive. You are crushing and will continue to crush. I forsee a massive upswing in both our futures. Thank you for everything
this comment is legit the nicest thing I’ve read on this channel/in my blog over the years. truly appreciate this so much, especially when things are seemingly going the literal worst I’ve ever experienced! wishing you and your mate the best of luck and hopefully we can play one day! ❤️❤️
i have to say you are a true inspiration to players like me who struggle with bad variance. seeing you pushing through is just ABSOLUTELY insane. love !
90 buy-in downswing over 45k hands is insane. And even more insane is seeing you seemingly not too affected by it.. I almost quit playing poker after a 40 buy in downswing over 50k hands lol. The variance at the stakes you play is much higher though with all the wild bluffs going on. Keep going man, love your vids ❤️
very much appreciate the support and kind words mate - but just wanna remind that this is actually a 66bi green line and only like 35bi orange line downswing if you account for ante buy ins being half of what hem says! but yeah it’s still pretty damn rough. we’ll get through ❤️🙏
i've had technically worse beats, but most of the time the opponent at least thought he had more equity or outs than he actually had, this one just feels super awful because he called with absolutely nothing.
hahaha well at different times in my career you'd prob be saying that i'm the golden one! sadly the death run comes for us all at some point but we'll get through
Hey Ben! First of all, love your content and I think that you're very sharp with your analysis I am myself playing quite a lot these days and feel that I can play well but sometimes in the tables feel like I'm not in the zone 100%. At 3:10 you mentioned a warm up/cooldown routine. Do you have any tips for warm up/what does your routine look like? :)
hello mate! really glad you're enjoying the videos. OK so this can be very tailored to what works for you, but these are some of the things that i have done over the years. they're also not things that i do every session but i will pick and choose depending on how i'm feeling both in life and in relation to poker. These can be used as both warm up and cool down fwiw: 1. brief 5-10 min meditation 2. review marked hands 3. short gto trainer to warm up the brain 4. look at notes on different regs/recs that are playing so i'm in the mindset of playing each opponent rather than an overarching strategy 5. setting session intentions. this will often be when i'm in a downswing as my mind is often really full. i'll aim to make things VERY basic such as; 'every time i'm in a 3bp OOP i'll say out loud what the theory of the spot is and then verbalise whether we should or shouldn't be adjusting, and why. another really good one is 'every time i notice a bubbling emotion/tilt, i will take my hand off my mouse and take a deep breath'. These are super simple things but have really helped me remain present. 6. decide session length before playing and set a timer - this can be suuuuper helpful when you are feeling low on motivation there are plenty of others but this should get you started! glgl
Hey mate! Thank you for the very comprehensive answer! Every tip seem very reasonable and I will slowly try them and see what works the best for me. Gl in the tables and overall wish you all the best!
Yeah, that’s a pretty sick one. I can definitely relate, although on a far smaller scale, how it feels to start a session feeling like no matter what you do it just won’t work. Things will get better, and it will once again be your turn to flop valuehand after valuehand and have them actually hold. Keep up having such a great mindset!
bro i swear, the tank is just to make you think they are an idiot fish. there are some questionable punts that always end up hitting something they had to know it was coming lmao
I had a guy on gg the other day on 100nl call a 1.5x overbet jam 200bb deep on the turn with a 6-3 gutshot, no pair. He had around 6% and hit it. Makes you wonder
Worst bad beat i saw on GG so far is that streamer guy missing the BBJ because of a one outer on the river on 200nl (allin on turn) QQ vs KK on AAxA. A on the river. RIP 14000 dollars.
On the k8s hand, if you didn't donk bet river and got shoved on, would it be a slam dunk call in that situation, or would you still feel the same logic applies as the case where you donked? Villain should probably not be value shoving a 8 after being checked to, so we can make the same fold?
that's a very good question and it's hard to say for sure, but my sense is that i would still be very unhappy about facing ip shove, BUT i'd be hating it less than the line that actually happened. even though both are supremely underbluffed, i think the shove ip vs check has a tiiiiiiiny bit higher chance of them just having an 8. honestly folding in both scenarios just has to be the best play though imo
Damn bro i feel your pain, your ability to stay upbeat in the face of this downer is inspirational. I will say that ive had 10+ perfect perfect runner runner quads, had top set KK lose vs under pair go 88 allin on flop, top set AA lose to 55 runna quads, its happens so much on GG ive never seen stuff like this anywhere. But outside of that, i will say this about your game and what ive noticed in your game and i would imagine all your reg opponents have as well, you seem to take every "mandatory bluff spot" check vs with our value looks like it prints. But im obviously not seeing all your hands so maybe you are perfectly balanced idk. Either way do enjoy your content and wishing you a triumphant comeback
10+ is totally insane wtf. i genuinely appreciate your awareness that i don't post every hand so the videos paint my sessions in a certain light. ofc if i have a set and bet turn and river and get called it won't ever make the video because it isn't an interesting of funny result for the video haha. BUT all that said, i do get called down extortionately light in a number of spots and at this point, i can only really attribute some of them to these videos lol. on the other hand, when i do find top 5% distribution i'll prob win all the marbles hahaha
gg's man feel you soso much, lost AJo v AJo AI pre deep in the 22$ WCOOP phase with 65k UT... BUUUUT i love you BBB!!!! loving the IG interactions and content btw tyty and keep on keeping on friend!
I experienced a beat probably equally as sick in terms of rarity in a live cash game recently. Long story short, I got the nut flush draw all-in after betting 90% pot for a shove on the turn (3bet pot, villain is a fish who called the straddle then called the 3bet, initial raiser folded pre). He has a worse flush draw with no pair. We run it twice and he pairs up on both. Sick game.
There was a hand like this on high stakes poker when back in the day. Johnny chan had aa in a 4 bet pot I believe. And kq flopped air then check raised all in. They ran it 3 times. Aa won all 3
Was playing PLO and two players got it in on the flop of KKx (only for 40bb each or so) and one had AA other had KK, running aces for quads was the sickest ive ever seen
My worst bad beat was a 500 bb pot with k10 hh vs JQss on 10s 10x 3x Ks. All in on turn in 3bet pot. River 9s. Villain bluff jammed my turn check raise and binked the 2 outer
The worst I’ve ever had was AT vs A8 all in pre in a tournament. Flop was ATx so I am sitting comfortably with the % chance of villain winning at 0.3%. Then it comes 8 turn, 8 river and I have never felt so sick
I have heard basically no one is winning on GG 1K before rb, what do you think about that? Would you rather play in pool where decent winrates are possible before rb or do you just not care about that where the money comes from in the end?
i said this before, but i genuinely believe that with my game selection i have a positive (maybe small) winrate on gg 1k. remember a lot of these losses at from 500nl ante (where some are winning at like 20bb lol). but i would 100% rather play a pool where i have winrate rather than rb being winrate. psychologically that is a lot more rewarding to my monkey brain lol
@@BenaBadBeatPoker yeah fair enough. Didn’t talk about you specifically because I believe you belong to the strongest 1K GG regs. But I have seems statistics where only like 3-4 regs of the total pool won before rb.
@@BenaBadBeatPoker don’t talk so negatively about yourself mate, even as a joke. You are at the top of the food chain in that pool, def a reason to be proud. Keep it up
Through a process of elimination (eliminating all hands that would have too high an equity, while knowing should be 2%, combined with likely 4 bet hand), was happy to guess KQo exactly being the most likely hand before it was flipped. I've sadly personally also lost a 10k pot with very similar 97 or 98% in PLO5.
I had KK and AA back-to-back. Go allin pre and get called by the same player, who each time had some joke of hand like Q8o. We chopped one (we both played the board), and I lost the other (board came out 4-flush and Villain had one of the suits).
Love your content and thought process as always… Hand in an app: about $550 effective ($1.50/$3.00 blinds). Whale opens 3x folds to me in BB I have JJ and make it 15 BBs. Flop is J73, I cbet 1/2 pot, whale jams and I snap. He has 97o. I have run it twice always checked, he clicks go once. Turn 7, river 7.
That chip shuffle in the first hand seems super sus and immediately made me want to call (i thought it was a fold before that). The most action completing card in the deck they don't want to tip you off that it hit them and make you fold. The timing was super bluffy too imo. It just felt so much like "i hit the best bluff card and I want you to know its a bad card" (as if we don't know that). Nice hand.
@@BenaBadBeatPoker ohh I thought it meant like sending an emote. Can you tell if it's toggled on permanently or just sent that time? On ACR I've gotten some good reads off people sending emotes before and it might sound crazy to some but it literally is like a live read. One of those intuition based things. I rely on feel more than most of the GTO players today do tho
Great video Bena! I’ll tell you my worst bad beat. Hero with AA, flop A89. All in on flop. Villain had 89. Can you guess the next 2 cards? I was a 500/1 chance to lose that hand.
😄😄 Really though the bad beat would be something like runner runner straight flush or something like that. I've head a few of these, nothing too spectacular tbh. Btw, i've been playing gg for some time and something is off there. From your videos, most money you usually lose at GG. What's the tipping point to call it quits with this site? I don't trust it at all to be honest and i've been playing longer than you i think and something is def off with it
honestly i just can't bring myself to quit when i see such great EV in the games. I have plenty of friends that have played millions of hands at gg1k and it isn't super uncommon for them to have both 100bi downswings as well as upswings. i guess if the games were to dry up (which is very unlikely) then that would be the only time i'd choose to stop playing there i think. remember with rakeback and bonuses (albeit i'm way above BBJ EV), i'm not losing much, if at all overall there
Yeah i had kinda similar equities a couple of times throughout the journey and lost. It wasnt for such amount of money though any of it cause it mostly happen in tournaments.
In a GG 200bb ante game with straddle I open BTN with AA, SB 3bets, I 4bet - he calls. Flop is A35, he pots, I call. Turn is a jack; he overbets 200%, I jam, he calls. He has 22 - and gets the 4 on the river. Losing to an inside straight 4 outer isn't on the same level as yours but its my worst beat as it was a 760bb pot - biggest pot I've ever lost 😂. I declined cash out and run it twice if he asked because I'm like a 90% favourite or whatever.....some poker friends later told me they may have used cadh out on this occasion given the pot size.
The worst beat I had was in a small buy in tournament. I had QQ and flop came: Q77. I bet the flop and my opponent shoved all in on the flop holding:: 55. Turn and river was: 55. I think you did the right thing not cashing out on both streets 👍
Yeah bad beat sure. But seriously that kind of stuff and way worse happens every online cash session I play. Quite surprised definitely a little anticlimactic
This k8s its really one hand to find this fold and make printscreen for friends. But we need to play a-game ,this line is never bluff and i think like you said not too much players try to fold yours 8x with 8x :D
In a 109 bounty builder on stars about 5 years ago with about 120 players left, I had KK against AA my SB against BB all went in pre, flop come A22, then running K K for quads, I went on to win the tourney! So crazy it was a 235bb pot too put me as chip leader with 119 left I didn't lose chip lead until 3 left but won it anyway will never forget everything about that tourney 12k win
Is there any chance Bena that your games most people are equal skill level to you meaning there is no winner only the rake, then that those people are exploiting better than you overall or exploiting you in spots making your winrate even worse? I know your a good player and would win in most games this graph just seems absurd even for short sample
this could be true if I was only playing regs yes, but I always play with a recreational so that should mitigate this issue. you’re not wrong though, this sample/run is very absurd. although remember in ev it really isn’t that bad
@@BenaBadBeatPoker I know someone who is much worse than you, that basically bum hunts the same stakes and tables with 1 fish. Over few million hands hardly a swing. Style of play can factor this, but its very interesting maybe the fish you both sit m, your sitting higher level ones unsure? I’d assume you lose more to the regs than he does as he may be tighter than you waiting on the fish more. Which surprises me as I always assumed someone with better knowledge than him would crush the games. Poker is a great game!
I think the most important thing is to remember this is a very small sample and potentially bottom 2-3% run. can’t make solid conclusions or comparisons yey
Nearly EXACT same thing happened to me in a Tournament for $60k up top with 18 people to go (1300+ entrants). 1st in chips literally check-shoved on a board like that and I snapped with AA (3rd in chips).. runner runner K... then Q... and then a broken laptop. Still have that bad beat ingrained in my head lol.
Been there so many times, just got out of a huge hole that it almost broke me. Hang in there mate, as long as you play your A game, results going to come! Btw I've had a worst bad beat playing live poker, i had K9 on K92 and whale had K7 no backdoors at all. Turn and river both 7 xD. GL GL!
thank you for the words of encouragement mate - genuinely appreciate it so much. that's totally it - play well and results will always turn around. looool that K9 is so so gross :D
I might fold the K8s vs a few players in my pool. But at the end of the day hero folding boats in giga cooler spots isnt where longterm winrates happen. You don't want to make a habit of paying off value heavy spots but this one would be quite the fold. I have seen a worse cooler. I saw KK vs KQ on Q237 3bet pot. They run get it in on the turn and run it twice guy binks a queen both times. Thats a 4% on the first run and 2% on the second run for a total odds of 99.2% v 0.8%. Funnily enough I saw the same guy do it again a week later.
you're 100% right regarding your first point - but equally if we see no bluffs we prob don't need to call! yeah that second bad beat i actually did pretty much the exact same beat to someone loool
Ive had a few like this. in the same week I had two people go runner runner A A all in on the flop. First time I had 88 vs AJ on a J 8 4 flop and the second I had 7 9 against AK on a 7 7 6 flop. But the worst I've seen was in my favor. I had A 4 on Q 4 10 beat Q Q with running 4's
Same happened to me. Mby even worse if we consider, that he had 2 more queens and 3 more kings to come. I flopped the nut straight. Guy had pair of 6s. Turn was a T, River another T and therefore he boated up. Btw, it was a live poker hand, for those, who think "online is rigged", lol.
Only worse bad beat I've seen was a friend of mine sat at the table when the lodge bad beat 'went off' for $120k. Plo hand. Rules stipulated straight flush over straight flush, both hands have to be flopped. Flop JT9ddd, one player has KQdd one has 87dd. Ace of diamonds on the river to counterfeit the jackpot. Everyone celebrating because no one knows it's even happened til the manager comes to 'pay them out' then when he gets there gets a call from the big boss telling them to not pay it out. Long comment, apologies and hope it was worth it. Was super recent too.
At recess in high school some guys got AA vs AT all in on ATx flop. Obv AT won :D. That was within like my first 1000 hands and to this day I don't think I've seen another 0.1%er. I guess it was just a joke but I'd like to point out that the equities really don't matter when considering running it twice.
I feel like you and I are literally going through the same year. Except you at high stakes and I at mid stakes. Maybe we need to leave GG haha. All I can say is I hope it gets better for you bro
With 8 full I would have made the fold..I would have put him on quads or 9s... The biggest improvement in my game has been able to make discipline folds...u find that live players find it easier to make these folds as oppose to online players who always find it hard to fold..its a massive part of being a good poker player learning to fold that I'm starting to do very well.
Pretty rough last hand, but I'm willing to bet that if you look at your hand histories and filter on your equity on flop when you're all-in, you will have experienced worse bad beats (i.e. villain had 6 cards available to runner runner... I'm betting that you've been in spots where villain may have only had 4 or less cards to runner. The ultimate is obviously where they only have 2 specific cards to runner... those sort of situations are typically 2/45 * 1/44 likelihoods... which is basically 1-in-a-thousand). In contrast, yours was 6/45 * 5/44 which is 3-in-200 type likelihood (ignoring chops). When you play millions of hands, those sort of things happening become very likely... eventually.
no there won’t be worse beats haha. I did give a beat worse than this a long while ago though where I got it in on the turn with 2 outs, ran it twice and hit both
My worst bad beat pocket Aces..flop a 7 k... villan goes all in with pocket k... turn and river kk. That was on the bubble of a 109 tournament 25 k 1st prize..that would have made me chip leader 😢😢
do you not have any concerns about bots (particularly at ACR) killing your winrate? fyi i'm a HS MTT pro, seen some quite damning articles and examples lately. i'd consider MTT (especially PKO) a lot safer with the number of factors that come into good strategy (also ICM influences). hmu if you want to see the articles.
it’s of course a bit of a worry given the climate yeah. overall I feel quite confident in the hs community discord where new names and unknown winners are under severe scrutiny though!
I had A8 on a flop if 789. The other mush was punting around massively with air most of the time so when he bet the flop i shoved as it was only a 10 BB spin up table. He had 56 yor the straight...and then i went runner runner 88 for four of a kind...😂😂😂
14:58 superusers disguised as action players just flying under the radar. Losing 80-90 buy-ins straight down pretty much and seeing this KQo hand makes me extremely suspicious of these online sites. Maybe another player with some equity hack that didn't get fixed.
haha yeah it’s pretty outrageous. this is definitely the worst I’ve ever run but with a low to no winrate these swings will happen unfortunately. can’t read too much into it
I won a hand where i had AJo one spade and villain had 99, flop J92ss and money got in, we ran it twice i won with runner flush BOTH boards. that was the most insane thing i've ever seen..
Last weekend I got 1 outered for bbj. I had kk vs qq on aaa flop 4 b pot. River A. At least I had kk and not qq 😂 Both of us playing like stains hoping for the bbj
actually i faced a much worst beat before but its just 1 hand, KK vs QQ, i flop K54 rainbow board, top set, but turn & river Q give the villian baackdoor quads. i still have the hand history that i could send to you if you want
I remember doing a Micro MTT/SnG or something getting it in OTF and I had UP vs Set or something I dunno my exact combo/board, it was something like 55s vs TTs on say a Txx board, it was like 5 years ago, anyhow I had 0.2% OTF and I looked away at another table play another hand expecting this to bust, did a few more other tables then looked back at this table ready to close it and I saw I had doubled up and I was astounded, checked replayer to see I had hit runner-runner quads. Probably worst I have seen.
the worst bad beat I've received (the stake was way lower and it was in a tournament hand),was that I got kk and my opponent got kq ai pre flop came sth like 238 without any bd for him, but the consecutive qs on tge turn and river got me sucked out brutally and I still remember the equity for kk was 99.6% on the flop, I mean I know it happens but it just torturing to see this shit😢😢😢😢😢
That was a pretty bad beat, but I've seen Nick take what I'd consider to be a worse beat than that with AKss v 10 3 on a K high board with two spades and it comes runner runner 10 3. Then there was another hand with you in the booth where Nick gets it in with Aces against Tucky who had some junk hand and he made runner runner straight. Those were both in the 10NL challenge though, so not losing huge amounts of money.
sick sick bad beat. believe me or not i got the same twice in a row on the same table within 3 hands. except than we went all in turn and he had 2 outs.
Had this happen to me a 3 months ago but it was QQ vs 55 Q77 Flop 5 turn got it all in 5 river Only a $450ish pot but Don’t think I’ll ever psychologically recover.
Man, for how long do you play on GG network? I lose those kinds of hands almost every day on that rigged site. Shuffle is not random. Worst you play, better you run.
haha well you obviously don't lose hands like that daily cus that would be truly unbelievable! but i get you're frustrated with the site. i will continue to play there for now :D
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Almost every day, literally. It is believable cuz it is rigged. This comes from 700 K profit player on SNGs and MTTs. GG owners must go to prison for fraud. Truth matters!
My worse bad beat was having Jack set on flop Guy called cbet with 77 Turned a set of 7 Then we went all in and river was the last 7 Nl25 online on absolute poker back in 2010
98% vs 2% is like a flip for me
same
LOL
This was the most stoic way of someone saying " I am on 90BI downswing". Literally 0 emotion :D Mad respect for this robotness.
90 BIs is not a downswing
haha ngl it definitely does hurt a bit! but appreciate the kind words
is 90bi a losing player?
I went multiple times on downswing... But for 20 max 30 buyins... Maybe go back for 1 or 2 weeks and play at lower stakes, play against weaker opponenents, win and get back that good felling of winning... Just my 2cents on the situation gl at the tables@@BenaBadBeatPoker
Well its getting close
😂@@BenaBadBeatPoker
Really appreciate this level of transparency. It helps so many people to know that this type of run bad can happen to the best in poker. Also, personally it helps to know that even with such an elite mental game it will still have an impact to some extent and that that is ok. Looking forward to seeing the inevitable epic turnaround!
success is just luck
thanks for the kind words mate
@dantonkill6491 speaking like a true salt lord :D
You are missing the point. Point is that GG poker runs rigged software. Shuffle is not random.
@@DeltoidBeast how can you prove it?
Me and my best friend play for a living, much smaller than you do, but we both look up to you as the most skilled poker player to ever make content (and one of the best poker players in the world period). The knowledge you give out for free is unmatched by anyone else in this space. Keep going ben, and keep our dream alive. You are crushing and will continue to crush. I forsee a massive upswing in both our futures. Thank you for everything
this comment is legit the nicest thing I’ve read on this channel/in my blog over the years. truly appreciate this so much, especially when things are seemingly going the literal worst I’ve ever experienced! wishing you and your mate the best of luck and hopefully we can play one day! ❤️❤️
i have to say you are a true inspiration to players like me who struggle with bad variance.
seeing you pushing through is just ABSOLUTELY insane. love !
thank you for the kind words mate
He obviously has pocket 99, since he bet 99$ on the turn
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Shit Charlie carrel would say reviewing the hand in hindsight while criticizing the turncall
90 buy-in downswing over 45k hands is insane. And even more insane is seeing you seemingly not too affected by it.. I almost quit playing poker after a 40 buy in downswing over 50k hands lol. The variance at the stakes you play is much higher though with all the wild bluffs going on. Keep going man, love your vids ❤️
very much appreciate the support and kind words mate - but just wanna remind that this is actually a 66bi green line and only like 35bi orange line downswing if you account for ante buy ins being half of what hem says! but yeah it’s still pretty damn rough. we’ll get through ❤️🙏
i've had technically worse beats, but most of the time the opponent at least thought he had more equity or outs than he actually had, this one just feels super awful because he called with absolutely nothing.
hahaha yeah i think you're right - it's the fact that they just have NOTHING :D
@@BenaBadBeatPoker it would be an interesting case study for psychology to get into the mind of your opponent 😁
It always feels so much worse getting coolered by someone playing so horrendously badly that they make 2NL players look like geniuses.
When I see posts like this, knowing how long you’ve been playing, I realize just how golden some people run in life
hahaha well at different times in my career you'd prob be saying that i'm the golden one! sadly the death run comes for us all at some point but we'll get through
Hey Ben!
First of all, love your content and I think that you're very sharp with your analysis
I am myself playing quite a lot these days and feel that I can play well but sometimes in the tables feel like I'm not in the zone 100%. At 3:10 you mentioned a warm up/cooldown routine. Do you have any tips for warm up/what does your routine look like? :)
hello mate! really glad you're enjoying the videos.
OK so this can be very tailored to what works for you, but these are some of the things that i have done over the years. they're also not things that i do every session but i will pick and choose depending on how i'm feeling both in life and in relation to poker. These can be used as both warm up and cool down fwiw:
1. brief 5-10 min meditation
2. review marked hands
3. short gto trainer to warm up the brain
4. look at notes on different regs/recs that are playing so i'm in the mindset of playing each opponent rather than an overarching strategy
5. setting session intentions. this will often be when i'm in a downswing as my mind is often really full. i'll aim to make things VERY basic such as; 'every time i'm in a 3bp OOP i'll say out loud what the theory of the spot is and then verbalise whether we should or shouldn't be adjusting, and why. another really good one is 'every time i notice a bubbling emotion/tilt, i will take my hand off my mouse and take a deep breath'. These are super simple things but have really helped me remain present.
6. decide session length before playing and set a timer - this can be suuuuper helpful when you are feeling low on motivation
there are plenty of others but this should get you started! glgl
Hey mate!
Thank you for the very comprehensive answer! Every tip seem very reasonable and I will slowly try them and see what works the best for me.
Gl in the tables and overall wish you all the best!
Yeah, that’s a pretty sick one.
I can definitely relate, although on a far smaller scale, how it feels to start a session feeling like no matter what you do it just won’t work. Things will get better, and it will once again be your turn to flop valuehand after valuehand and have them actually hold. Keep up having such a great mindset!
this is the support i need in my life - thank you!
That Aces hand🤮🤮. Him calling with KQ just makes me feel like he knew the runout😂
looooool the tank call knowing bd 2p coming in
bro i swear, the tank is just to make you think they are an idiot fish. there are some questionable punts that always end up hitting something they had to know it was coming lmao
I had a guy on gg the other day on 100nl call a 1.5x overbet jam 200bb deep on the turn with a 6-3 gutshot, no pair. He had around 6% and hit it. Makes you wonder
@@BaadMotorFinger the good life :S
Ouch!! My worst, I flopped a set of 9's v 66 and lost to runner runner 6's for quads.
wow that's insanely sick
Hi Ben, thank you for the content! Just a question, why you say “why would I run it twice when 98%”? Is non irrelevant the % ?
haha yeah it’s not relevant. I just said it as a joke!
Ooh whatta hand that AA vs KQ. Absolute PSYCHOCOOLER. 😢 I love your transparency Babi, you are people's Champ
🤣🤣❤️❤️
Worst bad beat i saw on GG so far is that streamer guy missing the BBJ because of a one outer on the river on 200nl (allin on turn) QQ vs KK on AAxA. A on the river. RIP 14000 dollars.
that's truly truly brtutal. but also hilarious haha
13:54 Theoretically, you would make more if they fold at this specific moment, right? Either way, amazing content. I love your videos!
haha yeah i guess do - thanks mate!
If they have anything literally anything with outs, but not if they have 2% equity 😂
4:16 did he say this is or isn't the size we should be using?
should!
On the k8s hand, if you didn't donk bet river and got shoved on, would it be a slam dunk call in that situation, or would you still feel the same logic applies as the case where you donked? Villain should probably not be value shoving a 8 after being checked to, so we can make the same fold?
that's a very good question and it's hard to say for sure, but my sense is that i would still be very unhappy about facing ip shove, BUT i'd be hating it less than the line that actually happened. even though both are supremely underbluffed, i think the shove ip vs check has a tiiiiiiiny bit higher chance of them just having an 8. honestly folding in both scenarios just has to be the best play though imo
You asked for it when you chose this name… 😂
hahaha i thought it meant i was gunna give all the beats!
Damn bro i feel your pain, your ability to stay upbeat in the face of this downer is inspirational. I will say that ive had 10+ perfect perfect runner runner quads, had top set KK lose vs under pair go 88 allin on flop, top set AA lose to 55 runna quads, its happens so much on GG ive never seen stuff like this anywhere. But outside of that, i will say this about your game and what ive noticed in your game and i would imagine all your reg opponents have as well, you seem to take every "mandatory bluff spot" check vs with our value looks like it prints. But im obviously not seeing all your hands so maybe you are perfectly balanced idk. Either way do enjoy your content and wishing you a triumphant comeback
10+ is totally insane wtf.
i genuinely appreciate your awareness that i don't post every hand so the videos paint my sessions in a certain light. ofc if i have a set and bet turn and river and get called it won't ever make the video because it isn't an interesting of funny result for the video haha. BUT all that said, i do get called down extortionately light in a number of spots and at this point, i can only really attribute some of them to these videos lol. on the other hand, when i do find top 5% distribution i'll prob win all the marbles hahaha
@@BenaBadBeatPoker lol i see the grift now, ultimate advertisement lolol... now nit it up for couple months and print sir.. may the variance be with u
Wouldn't it make sense to bet bigger at 08:00 or even shove?
yeah absolutely would be the case in theory i'd guess. but i also don't wanna give an awful price on my bluffs when ip can still have 99, 98 and quads
gg's man feel you soso much, lost AJo v AJo AI pre deep in the 22$ WCOOP phase with 65k UT... BUUUUT i love you BBB!!!! loving the IG interactions and content btw tyty and keep on keeping on friend!
thank you maaaate
I experienced a beat probably equally as sick in terms of rarity in a live cash game recently. Long story short, I got the nut flush draw all-in after betting 90% pot for a shove on the turn (3bet pot, villain is a fish who called the straddle then called the 3bet, initial raiser folded pre). He has a worse flush draw with no pair. We run it twice and he pairs up on both. Sick game.
oh that’s so so miserable lol
Hey Ben, how do play on Natural 8 from Australia?
made my account in Thailand 🙏 if you want a hook up at me on discord
Losing 10 BIs makes me wanna quit poker and find a new hobby. Mad respect for the commitment to the grind!
hahaha well poker is a bit more than a hobby so if i quit after 10bi I’d be in trouble!! (although financially better off in this current situation 🤣)
💯 Transparent Channel thats how we like your Content 🙏🏻 can you make a Video how you Deal with that Swings?
appreciate that mate! yes 100% will make that video but i think it's more credible if i'm not in the absolute pits of a downswing hahaha
There was a hand like this on high stakes poker when back in the day. Johnny chan had aa in a 4 bet pot I believe. And kq flopped air then check raised all in. They ran it 3 times. Aa won all 3
jeeeeesus lol
Was playing PLO and two players got it in on the flop of KKx (only for 40bb each or so) and one had AA other had KK, running aces for quads was the sickest ive ever seen
lmfao that’s so sick
Hey Ben, just wanted to let you know that the only reason you don’t have at least 50k subs is because the updates aren’t frequent !
Much love !
they have been once a week for 9 months lmao. seems pretty frequent to me!
I’ve seen lex veldhuis flop top set and lose to running quads but this is still up there.
lmao sooo sick!
My worst bad beat was a 500 bb pot with k10 hh vs JQss on 10s 10x 3x Ks. All in on turn in 3bet pot. River 9s. Villain bluff jammed my turn check raise and binked the 2 outer
sooo gross
The worst I’ve ever had was AT vs A8 all in pre in a tournament. Flop was ATx so I am sitting comfortably with the % chance of villain winning at 0.3%. Then it comes 8 turn, 8 river and I have never felt so sick
hahaha but you were all in preflop right so it wasn't quite as bad!?
I have heard basically no one is winning on GG 1K before rb, what do you think about that?
Would you rather play in pool where decent winrates are possible before rb or do you just not care about that where the money comes from in the end?
i said this before, but i genuinely believe that with my game selection i have a positive (maybe small) winrate on gg 1k. remember a lot of these losses at from 500nl ante (where some are winning at like 20bb lol).
but i would 100% rather play a pool where i have winrate rather than rb being winrate. psychologically that is a lot more rewarding to my monkey brain lol
@@BenaBadBeatPoker yeah fair enough. Didn’t talk about you specifically because I believe you belong to the strongest 1K GG regs. But I have seems statistics where only like 3-4 regs of the total pool won before rb.
yeah I totally feel you! funnily enough the 3 guys at the top of the 1k field are my close mates! shame I’m the shitter of the group 🤣
@@BenaBadBeatPoker don’t talk so negatively about yourself mate, even as a joke. You are at the top of the food chain in that pool, def a reason to be proud. Keep it up
That’s a tough beat man. I did get one worse than this, flopped quad jacks on a rainbow flop in a 5bet pot and lost to back door royal flush.
jeeeeesus christ that's rough hahaha
Through a process of elimination (eliminating all hands that would have too high an equity, while knowing should be 2%, combined with likely 4 bet hand), was happy to guess KQo exactly being the most likely hand before it was flipped. I've sadly personally also lost a 10k pot with very similar 97 or 98% in PLO5.
hahaha unreal reads, wpwp. that sounds sooo rough mate lool
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Ty, yes Ive played a good amount online & that was by far largest pot for that extreme a run out.
I would've called the river in the K8 hand, probably would've snap called. What a sick setup though!
totally wouldn't fault you for that bro!
I had KK and AA back-to-back. Go allin pre and get called by the same player, who each time had some joke of hand like Q8o. We chopped one (we both played the board), and I lost the other (board came out 4-flush and Villain had one of the suits).
🤣🤣sick!
Sickening, keep it up champ
thank you mate. littlesquirrel???
Rooting for the upswing! 📈
me too bro!
i had same spot but i had kks and villain hit q on turn and river, i was stunned for days lol this happened to me over a decade ago it still hurts
hahaha i will for sure remember this beat for a while too
Love your content and thought process as always…
Hand in an app: about $550 effective ($1.50/$3.00 blinds). Whale opens 3x folds to me in BB I have JJ and make it 15 BBs. Flop is J73, I cbet 1/2 pot, whale jams and I snap. He has 97o. I have run it twice always checked, he clicks go once. Turn 7, river 7.
thank you rgore! that is SICKENING ulul
That chip shuffle in the first hand seems super sus and immediately made me want to call (i thought it was a fold before that). The most action completing card in the deck they don't want to tip you off that it hit them and make you fold. The timing was super bluffy too imo. It just felt so much like "i hit the best bluff card and I want you to know its a bad card" (as if we don't know that). Nice hand.
haha yeah can agree with all of this! although the chip shuffle is something that is either turned on or off so some rec's have it on by default haha
@@BenaBadBeatPoker ohh I thought it meant like sending an emote. Can you tell if it's toggled on permanently or just sent that time? On ACR I've gotten some good reads off people sending emotes before and it might sound crazy to some but it literally is like a live read. One of those intuition based things. I rely on feel more than most of the GTO players today do tho
if it is switched on you will see the chips shuffle in your stack. it's in the settings somewhere in case you need to double check!
Great video Bena!
I’ll tell you my worst bad beat.
Hero with AA, flop A89. All in on flop. Villain had 89. Can you guess the next 2 cards?
I was a 500/1 chance to lose that hand.
good god 🤣
My worst bad beat was flopping a straight on the btn with A5s in a 4bet pot. He shoved flop with 10s and hit running 2s for a full house.
that's very very sad for us haha
😄😄 Really though the bad beat would be something like runner runner straight flush or something like that. I've head a few of these, nothing too spectacular tbh.
Btw, i've been playing gg for some time and something is off there. From your videos, most money you usually lose at GG. What's the tipping point to call it quits with this site? I don't trust it at all to be honest and i've been playing longer than you i think and something is def off with it
honestly i just can't bring myself to quit when i see such great EV in the games. I have plenty of friends that have played millions of hands at gg1k and it isn't super uncommon for them to have both 100bi downswings as well as upswings. i guess if the games were to dry up (which is very unlikely) then that would be the only time i'd choose to stop playing there i think. remember with rakeback and bonuses (albeit i'm way above BBJ EV), i'm not losing much, if at all overall there
Yeah i had kinda similar equities a couple of times throughout the journey and lost. It wasnt for such amount of money though any of it cause it mostly happen in tournaments.
🙏🙏🙏 still hurts bro!
In a GG 200bb ante game with straddle I open BTN with AA, SB 3bets, I 4bet - he calls. Flop is A35, he pots, I call. Turn is a jack; he overbets 200%, I jam, he calls. He has 22 - and gets the 4 on the river.
Losing to an inside straight 4 outer isn't on the same level as yours but its my worst beat as it was a 760bb pot - biggest pot I've ever lost 😂. I declined cash out and run it twice if he asked because I'm like a 90% favourite or whatever.....some poker friends later told me they may have used cadh out on this occasion given the pot size.
looooooool noooo
The worst beat I had was in a small buy in tournament. I had QQ and flop came: Q77. I bet the flop and my opponent shoved all in on the flop holding:: 55. Turn and river was: 55. I think you did the right thing not cashing out on both streets 👍
wow that’s absolutely disgusting
Great stuff man besta luck 🍀
thanks bro
Yeah bad beat sure. But seriously that kind of stuff and way worse happens every online cash session I play. Quite surprised definitely a little anticlimactic
hahaha every session you play? okkkk
This k8s its really one hand to find this fold and make printscreen for friends. But we need to play a-game ,this line is never bluff and i think like you said not too much players try to fold yours 8x with 8x :D
totally agree with you! we will find the fold next time
In a 109 bounty builder on stars about 5 years ago with about 120 players left, I had KK against AA my SB against BB all went in pre, flop come A22, then running K K for quads, I went on to win the tourney! So crazy it was a 235bb pot too put me as chip leader with 119 left I didn't lose chip lead until 3 left but won it anyway will never forget everything about that tourney 12k win
lmfao jesus christ that's insaaaane
Is there any chance Bena that your games most people are equal skill level to you meaning there is no winner only the rake, then that those people are exploiting better than you overall or exploiting you in spots making your winrate even worse? I know your a good player and would win in most games this graph just seems absurd even for short sample
this could be true if I was only playing regs yes, but I always play with a recreational so that should mitigate this issue. you’re not wrong though, this sample/run is very absurd. although remember in ev it really isn’t that bad
@@BenaBadBeatPoker I know someone who is much worse than you, that basically bum hunts the same stakes and tables with 1 fish. Over few million hands hardly a swing. Style of play can factor this, but its very interesting maybe the fish you both sit m, your sitting higher level ones unsure? I’d assume you lose more to the regs than he does as he may be tighter than you waiting on the fish more. Which surprises me as I always assumed someone with better knowledge than him would crush the games. Poker is a great game!
I think the most important thing is to remember this is a very small sample and potentially bottom 2-3% run. can’t make solid conclusions or comparisons yey
Hi Bena, I would call with K8 vs the river action. Thank you for your question.
thanks mate!
Nearly EXACT same thing happened to me in a Tournament for $60k up top with 18 people to go (1300+ entrants). 1st in chips literally check-shoved on a board like that and I snapped with AA (3rd in chips).. runner runner K... then Q... and then a broken laptop. Still have that bad beat ingrained in my head lol.
wow that’s so miserable. you will not forget that one ever 🤣
@@BenaBadBeatPoker haha ya, when I saw this beat, the PTSD kicked in 😂😂
Love your content and teachings, learning so much from you, gave you a Sub 😎 👍
My worst recently I was at a final table and I shoved with J8s, get called by J3 , flop is like 8XX and then turn is a 3 and river is a 3
that’s pure misery
Been there so many times, just got out of a huge hole that it almost broke me. Hang in there mate, as long as you play your A game, results going to come! Btw I've had a worst bad beat playing live poker, i had K9 on K92 and whale had K7 no backdoors at all. Turn and river both 7 xD. GL GL!
thank you for the words of encouragement mate - genuinely appreciate it so much. that's totally it - play well and results will always turn around. looool that K9 is so so gross :D
I might fold the K8s vs a few players in my pool. But at the end of the day hero folding boats in giga cooler spots isnt where longterm winrates happen. You don't want to make a habit of paying off value heavy spots but this one would be quite the fold.
I have seen a worse cooler. I saw KK vs KQ on Q237 3bet pot. They run get it in on the turn and run it twice guy binks a queen both times. Thats a 4% on the first run and 2% on the second run for a total odds of 99.2% v 0.8%. Funnily enough I saw the same guy do it again a week later.
you're 100% right regarding your first point - but equally if we see no bluffs we prob don't need to call!
yeah that second bad beat i actually did pretty much the exact same beat to someone loool
Ive had a few like this. in the same week I had two people go runner runner A A all in on the flop. First time I had 88 vs AJ on a J 8 4 flop and the second I had 7 9 against AK on a 7 7 6 flop. But the worst I've seen was in my favor. I had A 4 on Q 4 10 beat Q Q with running 4's
that is quite the brutal set of hands lmao
Same happened to me. Mby even worse if we consider, that he had 2 more queens and 3 more kings to come.
I flopped the nut straight. Guy had pair of 6s. Turn was a T, River another T and therefore he boated up. Btw, it was a live poker hand, for those, who think "online is rigged", lol.
live is rigged!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Ofc it is! :)
Only worse bad beat I've seen was a friend of mine sat at the table when the lodge bad beat 'went off' for $120k.
Plo hand. Rules stipulated straight flush over straight flush, both hands have to be flopped.
Flop JT9ddd, one player has KQdd one has 87dd.
Ace of diamonds on the river to counterfeit the jackpot. Everyone celebrating because no one knows it's even happened til the manager comes to 'pay them out' then when he gets there gets a call from the big boss telling them to not pay it out.
Long comment, apologies and hope it was worth it. Was super recent too.
omfg that is literally sooooo sick hahaha
At recess in high school some guys got AA vs AT all in on ATx flop. Obv AT won :D. That was within like my first 1000 hands and to this day I don't think I've seen another 0.1%er.
I guess it was just a joke but I'd like to point out that the equities really don't matter when considering running it twice.
hahahaha school games rigged
I feel like you and I are literally going through the same year. Except you at high stakes and I at mid stakes. Maybe we need to leave GG haha. All I can say is I hope it gets better for you bro
lots more people going through these mega swings these days mate - due to high rake! gotta include our rakeback though ❤️ you got this
With 8 full I would have made the fold..I would have put him on quads or 9s... The biggest improvement in my game has been able to make discipline folds...u find that live players find it easier to make these folds as oppose to online players who always find it hard to fold..its a massive part of being a good poker player learning to fold that I'm starting to do very well.
OK bro cool story
Be easy to play you then, just shove any river and you put me on the nuts and fold second nuts lmao, good talk fella
making big folds definitely essential! and this is probably a spot for it
Have you seen the 64o hand in WSOP online main FT? That’s the sickest one I’ve seen.
no link?!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker ua-cam.com/users/liveDh4tFcYRKag?si=wQa1_bFF4VO4aC8h 3:40:30
Pretty rough last hand, but I'm willing to bet that if you look at your hand histories and filter on your equity on flop when you're all-in, you will have experienced worse bad beats (i.e. villain had 6 cards available to runner runner... I'm betting that you've been in spots where villain may have only had 4 or less cards to runner.
The ultimate is obviously where they only have 2 specific cards to runner... those sort of situations are typically 2/45 * 1/44 likelihoods... which is basically 1-in-a-thousand). In contrast, yours was 6/45 * 5/44 which is 3-in-200 type likelihood (ignoring chops). When you play millions of hands, those sort of things happening become very likely... eventually.
no there won’t be worse beats haha. I did give a beat worse than this a long while ago though where I got it in on the turn with 2 outs, ran it twice and hit both
My worst bad beat pocket Aces..flop a 7 k... villan goes all in with pocket k... turn and river kk. That was on the bubble of a 109 tournament 25 k 1st prize..that would have made me chip leader 😢😢
that's supremely brutal
Your best video ❤
whaaaat really?!
do you not have any concerns about bots (particularly at ACR) killing your winrate? fyi i'm a HS MTT pro, seen some quite damning articles and examples lately. i'd consider MTT (especially PKO) a lot safer with the number of factors that come into good strategy (also ICM influences). hmu if you want to see the articles.
it’s of course a bit of a worry given the climate yeah. overall I feel quite confident in the hs community discord where new names and unknown winners are under severe scrutiny though!
I had A8 on a flop if 789.
The other mush was punting around massively with air most of the time so when he bet the flop i shoved as it was only a 10 BB spin up table.
He had 56 yor the straight...and then i went runner runner 88 for four of a kind...😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah that’s pretty bad. Worst I’ve had was AA vs A2 on A72, All-in OTF. Got beaten by runner runner Quad deuces. Though that was 2NL at the time lol.
that's truly horrific wow
14:58 superusers disguised as action players just flying under the radar. Losing 80-90 buy-ins straight down pretty much and seeing this KQo hand makes me extremely suspicious of these online sites. Maybe another player with some equity hack that didn't get fixed.
haha yeah it’s pretty outrageous. this is definitely the worst I’ve ever run but with a low to no winrate these swings will happen unfortunately. can’t read too much into it
I won a hand where i had AJo one spade and villain had 99, flop J92ss and money got in, we ran it twice i won with runner flush BOTH boards. that was the most insane thing i've ever seen..
wooow thats legit insane
You are better than me man, I would be on live chat and Reddit telling everyone GG is rigged😂😂
lmaoooo well I did post it all over UA-cam 🤣
I saw you on carrot corner and subscribed. I hope you run better in the future.
appreciate the sub mate! hope you enjoy the content here
Last weekend I got 1 outered for bbj. I had kk vs qq on aaa flop 4 b pot. River A. At least I had kk and not qq 😂 Both of us playing like stains hoping for the bbj
so many people have shared they have had this beat lmao what the hell
actually i faced a much worst beat before but its just 1 hand, KK vs QQ, i flop K54 rainbow board, top set, but turn & river Q give the villian baackdoor quads. i still have the hand history that i could send to you if you want
loool i believe - that's so so brutal. fwiw i've had these in hand too, just not when all in and cards face up!
just lost AA vs KK same suits twice all in pre in a 500bb pot
hahah thats very sick - what're the odds?
@@BenaBadBeatPoker 1,64% I think
I remember doing a Micro MTT/SnG or something getting it in OTF and I had UP vs Set or something I dunno my exact combo/board, it was something like 55s vs TTs on say a Txx board, it was like 5 years ago, anyhow I had 0.2% OTF and I looked away at another table play another hand expecting this to bust, did a few more other tables then looked back at this table ready to close it and I saw I had doubled up and I was astounded, checked replayer to see I had hit runner-runner quads. Probably worst I have seen.
hahahaha so so silly
the worst bad beat I've received (the stake was way lower and it was in a tournament hand),was that I got kk and my opponent got kq ai pre flop came sth like 238 without any bd for him, but the consecutive qs on tge turn and river got me sucked out brutally and I still remember the equity for kk was 99.6% on the flop, I mean I know it happens but it just torturing to see this shit😢😢😢😢😢
that’s beyond gross lmao. good story tho!
Imagine you have AQ suited and flop is AAQ
Villain has AK which was obvious when river was a king and he called all streets and jams river.
That was a pretty bad beat, but I've seen Nick take what I'd consider to be a worse beat than that with AKss v 10 3 on a K high board with two spades and it comes runner runner 10 3. Then there was another hand with you in the booth where Nick gets it in with Aces against Tucky who had some junk hand and he made runner runner straight. Those were both in the 10NL challenge though, so not losing huge amounts of money.
mate that bad beat nick received lives rent free in my head :D it's when frank says 'he has like 15%' that kills me every time hahaha
Pretty standard beat for online poker my man 😂
🤣🤣
Was the bad beat punishment for playing full ring?
apparently so :D
My sickest beat was KK vs AK on 7 8 K, All in on turn.
A turn, A river.
wow super insane
BENA-TRULY-BABBY
myyyyy boy
Knowing the run outs on GG I'd take that first cashout option. Nearly full money!
hahaha next time i know
that last hand was brutal...
got me gooood
I once got one-outed in a huge MW pot, that took me out of poker for several months…
I feel you 🙏🙏
sick sick bad beat. believe me or not i got the same twice in a row on the same table within 3 hands. except than we went all in turn and he had 2 outs.
lmfao that's truly wild
Sickest beat I ever saw was AA vs JJ all in pre, A on the flop. Running Jacks for quads. The guy with AA looked so defeated and immediately left.
I lost to runner runner straight flush for the same odds as that badbeat
That's not too bad if you play online poker
Had this happen to me a 3 months ago but it was QQ vs 55
Q77 Flop
5 turn got it all in
5 river
Only a $450ish pot but
Don’t think I’ll ever psychologically recover.
looool some great beats here
I was expecting a much worse beat tbh. It’s just a standard runner runner. Think I’ve played around 10mil hands so had plenty worse!
i've only had this one once! i have done worse to others though lol
Man, for how long do you play on GG network? I lose those kinds of hands almost every day on that rigged site. Shuffle is not random. Worst you play, better you run.
haha well you obviously don't lose hands like that daily cus that would be truly unbelievable! but i get you're frustrated with the site. i will continue to play there for now :D
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Almost every day, literally. It is believable cuz it is rigged. This comes from 700 K profit player on SNGs and MTTs. GG owners must go to prison for fraud. Truth matters!
My worst bad beat was AA full on AJJ55, fish leads flop turn and shoves river... He had pocket 55 😅
yikes 🤣
ive lost with 22 vs KJ on K72 two tone which is 98% on flop
yeah that is yikes too
Yesterday I had KK v AA, flop A, turn and river K.
Ez bad beat jackpot share
WE TAKE THOSE
My worse bad beat was having Jack set on flop
Guy called cbet with 77
Turned a set of 7
Then we went all in and river was the last 7
Nl25 online on absolute poker back in 2010
good god that is so tough
grabbing my popcorn :D
you gave easty this beat 1000 times during the challenge :D
@@BenaBadBeatPoker #narrative
and wheres your 10nl challenge!? you know we all want it.
I feel better after todays shitty session 😅 tks bro
looool happy to be of service