@8.23 you mention that to make a call here you need to make sure your suits match the board. Looking at this on wizard, I see it favours Kd Jh over your combo. That seems counter intuitive to me given that Kd Jh blocks busted flushes whereas you unblock those so Im surprised at the EV difference but cant work out why wizard favours holding Jh. Great content by the way and I suspect you won't get any complaints that the video is longer.
hey mate, thanks for the feedback! fwiw i wasn't sure about what i said about double blocking the suited boat varieties - was just an assumption! i try to give my raw thoughts as oppose to just repeating what a solver would say haha. as for the EV of KdJh>KsJc, i think that it's something to do with ip checking back some K9ss ott but never checking K9dd (turning a fd to go with their 2p), therefore we would wanna hold the card that blocks their most likely turn barrels (K9dd). tbh it's not something you need to worry about, but that is the reason hahaha. glglgl
Great video! :) Question about KJo v CO Spicy Whale: it's very conceivable you get to this river spot with most of your KTo, as well as some KQo and KTs some percentage of the time ( the ones that aren't 3bet pre - I'm assuming KQs almost always 3b pre). Considering villains assumed wide bluffing range on the river (even before we saw Qs2s), do we also consider hands blocking straights, kings full and K9 such as KT and KQ as legitimate bluff catchers in this spot? Do missed flush draw blockers become far less relevant considering the wideness of villains bluffing range or do we perhaps fold the KdTd? Interested to know your thoughts on this... Thanks :)
thanks for watching mate! yeah you pretty much nailed it. given overbluffing player type i would call the flush cards a lot less frequently even though they may yield decent ev (but i can't be sure of that so would just fold). i do think holding a T would be better than a Q because while CO may open Q2ss i don't think they'll have hands like T2 or T5s. I'd approach calling my bluff catchers a little like that
On nl 100/200 would you check back give up Ak ?(Last hand) I mean i feel like they overfold turn and their range river is to strong for let Ak make profitable
Love the videos, really enjoyed the old thread on 2p2 as well. Some feedback - can you stop with the clicking sound when you show red arrows on screen? It is exceptionally annoying.
On the last hand. Can't you occasionally chop when it goes XX on the river (even in theory)? I feel like It comes down to how often villain is going to bluff AK back at you when checked to. If they never do it then check. If they always do it then bet.
I dont really see overbet as a play in the first hand. Overbets are for when we are polar with a nut advantage We don't have many bluffs, our range is very showdown heavy. Can't see any bet above about 40% pot being merited Vil has QQ, 77, A and K hi flushes, he's hardly capped
yeah you could well be right tbh. I’m not sure I agree that our max allowance is 40% pot though. Still definitely believe flushes are worth a ‘big’ sizing. but I could definitely be convinced out big size can be no larger than 2/3 pot
Love these videos. At 10:05 you mention leading this turn making sense given how much Ax you have. Doesnt the fact that V is polarized to sets and strong Ax make us not want to lead, since its not like he has any bluffcatchers if we start betting?
thanks mate! so while ip will have a lot of those nutted hands, they naturally carry over a much wider range cus oop has filtered their range due to defending vs polar bet. imagine how much A8s ip bets otf - close to none right? but how much Ax does oop have when they check call - an absolute LOAD. a good way to think about this isn't so much 'who has more nutted hands' rather, over the entire range (especially when a large 'filtering' has happened; big bet and call) who has more 'air' in their range. hope that makes some sense but feel free to ask any other questions - happy to explain
@@BenaBadBeatPoker thx for response, really cool to get to get questions answered from someone on your level. I understand that our range has a ton of trips now, and very little air, but I dont quite understand how leading benefits our range much because he either is nutted (AQ+) or has air that is more or less dead (besides a few 65 86) If we chose to lead AJ, dont we just get continued by his nuts, and his air has easy folds? I could see how leading 65 would be nice, but ik that it has to make sense for our value as well. Edit: Am I overthinking the specifics, and is the answer just “good card for range, so bet”. Kinda like how when we cbet range in some spots despite a few specific hands that seemingly would want to check.
yoyo yeah you pretty much nailed it with your edit. the solver ultimately doesn't care that it makes air fold. it simply cares about leveraging EV. range betting in srp is exactly the same yep!
i'm not there right now no! i was there about 6 weeks ago though - in koh samui and chiang mai. the time zone definitely isn't the worst if you wake up early to grind. but you also can't play iggy from there remember!
8:19 villain will prob never gonna bluff wirh a K or J in his hand right? Does it really matter what suit we got then? I underatand vi don't wanna have KQ with Q in wrong suit but I don't understand why suits would matter in spots like these when both hole cards hit the board?
they won’t bluff with those hands no but given my pot odds blockers to the nuts > unblocking bluffs. although as I said vs this player the frequency at which I wanna defend goes up. the reason I say blocking both boats would be favourable vs a normal reg is because we naturally wanna be blocking hands that ip opens and has boats with. they’ll open only K9 and J9 of the suited varieties. however it would still be waaaaay better to have a T in my hand
my results started well and have become increasingly worse hahaha. definitely loads of dodgy stuff going on there atm but i have very few grinding options!
How do you fold QJ spades ? You block queens and he should never have any other boats here. Maybe ace high flush but again you block high spades. What did he end up having ?
a couple of things really - im close to middle range otr when using the big size so calling feels pretty unwarranted. I do block some flushes and a boat yeah but this doesn’t feel like a good enough reason to call. sadly we don’t know their hand!
@BenaBadBeatPoker have you ran it into a solver?It's probably tight. I just think his value range here can be KK or AA with one spade or even A3. Hard to put him on a better hand here. Nut flush, 1 combo of quads, 1 combo of queens.
sadly we can’t solve this one cus we went 4 way to the flop! I’m pretty sure A3 and AA/KK would fold river but if they ever do have those hands then you’d absolutely be right that we’d wanna call. I’m just not convinced those hands are in their range
Ur big bluffs all round dont seem to be working thr majority of the time i think you have there a leak that needs addressing esp cuz ur on a downswing bro ... on a positive note love your videos ans explanations and your a sick player jist please start winning again regularly cuz ur talented pls consider focusing in your failed bluffs good luck bro x
big bluffs definitely not working out bro! but just remember I don’t post the ones where people fold as they don’t make great content for UA-cam haha. thank you for watching 🙏
@BenaBadBeatPoker yeah I bet that's right but you should lol they so much fun to watch pls consider a bluff compilation video ileven if u average win like 10-50bb per bluff because fish like me would love to learn and also it would be good for you too and ur fans bless glgl
1st hand: I feel like most suited broadways are easy squeeze from the bb there, you want to call suited Ax and pocket pairs to play easy in multiway. Mp will have a bigger range to iso the fish, btn will call light-ish there to play the pot, good squeeze opportunity as long as you don't go crazy. As played your range is kinda weird there, right? guess you have some A3, a ton of Qx...and that's about it. Maybe 77? so bet/folding is burning money of he can approximate your range pretty well. 2nd hand: I actually like shoving preflop here, in gto wizard you have a small 5b to balance out your AA with half of AQs BUT you have a few shove with AQo and a lot of A5s. Just make life easier and shove AQs pre, it's never a big mistake vs competent players since they should have some 4b merged hands that will be in a shitty spot. Also, because you're 3betting a recreational bb knows you should be lighter so he will 4b lighter. 3rd hand: Of you know he's splashy ez calldown any tp vs this kind of players, they will always find enough bluffs. Other hands, very nice played
thanks for the feedback! h1, yep range is vvv weird. we ofc turbo fold our 3x unblocking the value so left with flushes only. i think i fold 77 4 way tbh. while i agree that folding is a torch when we look at our range, i don't believe that this player will find enough (if any) bluffs! h2, shove pre totally fine yep! but i don't like your logic of 'making life easier for ourselves'. that, by definition, will likely make our opponents life easier. although they did have a 0% freq A7s so maybe i shoulda jammed haha. you make a good point about 3betting the rec and bb being wider though - thanks! h3, yep agreed appreciate the analysis mate! glgl
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Wow, fast response. If you're sure he doesn't find any bluffs ( AA comes to mind with the flush blocker since vs the overbet he is bluffcatching vs a very strong range ) then sure, fold, but it seems like a 100% fold range so i never discount people getting fancy/creative to adjust so hard as to fold top of my range. h2, making life easier in the sense that we don't know their ranges or have good info to play correctly. And vs the fish i'm probably going a more merged range ( so no A5s in the 3bets ) then my 5b jam i skewed towards too much value. I just know that solvers love more 4bets and 5bets oop then ip so you realize equity easier. But i love your vids, keep'em coming.
hey BBB! loving so much the Chanel, one question in 10:45 you say rivered str8 won't jam by villain, what would the optimal size be if he rivered a str8 there in your opinion? cheers!!!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker maybe it's a XB after villain stabbed big OTT ha? had he X turn or bet smaller OTT and OTF then logically it could still be a bet OTR🤔🤞🤞🤞
Great video. Some of the best free content on YT, and your composure in the middle of a rank downswing is inspirational. Next week will be the juicer.
ahh this isn't a downswing.... yet :D
Hello BenaBadBeat, thank you for explaining the coloured lines, I think it might be good to focus on making the green one go up
apparently my green line suffering from some serious performance anxiety atm rip
That is good.
I laughed really hard at this one.
genius
Great tip sir
Crazy that this stuff is available for free on UA-cam these days. Great to have you here!
appreciate you stopping by Jake ❤️
i was going to say the same its awesome some of the best high stakes crushers are willing to explain their though process, very grateful for this
That series is almost better than the meat balls I just cooked myself.
those meatballs must be juiced
Lo-fi beats with BenaBadBird to get smashed at High Stakes to.
what a time to be alive
Very much enjoy the breakdown of hands vs. recreationals, would love to see you go more into depths in those and explain your reasoning
thank you! I do consider going in more depth but think we will lose a lot of people haha. something I’ll keep in mind though 💪🏼
yep, Bena losing on purpose again just so he can regrind
you know i love a regrind graph
Great content Ben keep it up, you and gazzyb should do a cross over, heads up with cams and shit talking would love to see it
yeah that's a great idea! will have a chat with him and see what we can do. will be doing some other colabs with a couple others soon hopefully too
@8.23 you mention that to make a call here you need to make sure your suits match the board. Looking at this on wizard, I see it favours Kd Jh over your combo. That seems counter intuitive to me given that Kd Jh blocks busted flushes whereas you unblock those so Im surprised at the EV difference but cant work out why wizard favours holding Jh. Great content by the way and I suspect you won't get any complaints that the video is longer.
hey mate, thanks for the feedback! fwiw i wasn't sure about what i said about double blocking the suited boat varieties - was just an assumption! i try to give my raw thoughts as oppose to just repeating what a solver would say haha. as for the EV of KdJh>KsJc, i think that it's something to do with ip checking back some K9ss ott but never checking K9dd (turning a fd to go with their 2p), therefore we would wanna hold the card that blocks their most likely turn barrels (K9dd). tbh it's not something you need to worry about, but that is the reason hahaha. glglgl
Great video! :)
Question about KJo v CO Spicy Whale: it's very conceivable you get to this river spot with most of your KTo, as well as some KQo and KTs some percentage of the time ( the ones that aren't 3bet pre - I'm assuming KQs almost always 3b pre).
Considering villains assumed wide bluffing range on the river (even before we saw Qs2s), do we also consider hands blocking straights, kings full and K9 such as KT and KQ as legitimate bluff catchers in this spot? Do missed flush draw blockers become far less relevant considering the wideness of villains bluffing range or do we perhaps fold the KdTd?
Interested to know your thoughts on this...
Thanks :)
thanks for watching mate! yeah you pretty much nailed it. given overbluffing player type i would call the flush cards a lot less frequently even though they may yield decent ev (but i can't be sure of that so would just fold). i do think holding a T would be better than a Q because while CO may open Q2ss i don't think they'll have hands like T2 or T5s. I'd approach calling my bluff catchers a little like that
On nl 100/200 would you check back give up Ak ?(Last hand) I mean i feel like they overfold turn and their range river is to strong for let Ak make profitable
yeah I think giving up is prob the right option at lower stakes. unless you think they fold hands like AQ way too often!
QJ fold is class, but very player dependent. Addicted to these videos.
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Love the videos, really enjoyed the old thread on 2p2 as well.
Some feedback - can you stop with the clicking sound when you show red arrows on screen? It is exceptionally annoying.
hahaha noted! we will remove/change it for something less jarring :D
On the last hand. Can't you occasionally chop when it goes XX on the river (even in theory)? I feel like It comes down to how often villain is going to bluff AK back at you when checked to. If they never do it then check. If they always do it then bet.
I imagine that ip will bluff AK otr some of the time. and yeah definitely not bluffing all my AK but this combo seemed pretty premium to bluff 🙏
I dont really see overbet as a play in the first hand. Overbets are for when we are polar with a nut advantage
We don't have many bluffs, our range is very showdown heavy. Can't see any bet above about 40% pot being merited
Vil has QQ, 77, A and K hi flushes, he's hardly capped
yeah you could well be right tbh. I’m not sure I agree that our max allowance is 40% pot though. Still definitely believe flushes are worth a ‘big’ sizing. but I could definitely be convinced out big size can be no larger than 2/3 pot
I thought preflop 3 bettor/ aggressor could use overbets on A high board?
Or is that AKx boards?
I think they’re referring to the QJss multi-way hand
What software are you using on ignition to get all of those bet sizing options and the randomizer? Can't find anything online about it.
intuitive tables!
13:51 why is there only 1 combo of KJs for villian? KcJc,KhJh and KsJs are all available.
as in we only block one of their combos!
Love these videos. At 10:05 you mention leading this turn making sense given how much Ax you have. Doesnt the fact that V is polarized to sets and strong Ax make us not want to lead, since its not like he has any bluffcatchers if we start betting?
thanks mate! so while ip will have a lot of those nutted hands, they naturally carry over a much wider range cus oop has filtered their range due to defending vs polar bet. imagine how much A8s ip bets otf - close to none right? but how much Ax does oop have when they check call - an absolute LOAD. a good way to think about this isn't so much 'who has more nutted hands' rather, over the entire range (especially when a large 'filtering' has happened; big bet and call) who has more 'air' in their range. hope that makes some sense but feel free to ask any other questions - happy to explain
@@BenaBadBeatPoker thx for response, really cool to get to get questions answered from someone on your level.
I understand that our range has a ton of trips now, and very little air, but I dont quite understand how leading benefits our range much because he either is nutted (AQ+) or has air that is more or less dead (besides a few 65 86) If we chose to lead AJ, dont we just get continued by his nuts, and his air has easy folds? I could see how leading 65 would be nice, but ik that it has to make sense for our value as well.
Edit: Am I overthinking the specifics, and is the answer just “good card for range, so bet”. Kinda like how when we cbet range in some spots despite a few specific hands that seemingly would want to check.
yoyo yeah you pretty much nailed it with your edit. the solver ultimately doesn't care that it makes air fold. it simply cares about leveraging EV. range betting in srp is exactly the same yep!
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With the AJo hand on A74A3, what do you think the bluffs are supposed to be from btn given this line? 55/66 perhaps?
yeah definitely those and then some 54 blocking A4 I’d guess
I would fold and never make a youtube video about it ;) Great video, enjoying your content!
hahaha sometimes you gotta publicly shame yourself 🤣
I like the exploit fold w QJss, prolly not enough bluff here... thought you would call in the end though, in order ton confort my read XD
haha we will never know!
Another great video. My only complaint is, I want more content!
haha thanks mate! we'll see what we can do
Are you based in thailand? Im thinking of heading to thai/vietnam to grind but the time zone is kinda off putting. How do you find it?
i'm not there right now no! i was there about 6 weeks ago though - in koh samui and chiang mai. the time zone definitely isn't the worst if you wake up early to grind. but you also can't play iggy from there remember!
8:19 villain will prob never gonna bluff wirh a K or J in his hand right? Does it really matter what suit we got then? I underatand vi don't wanna have KQ with Q in wrong suit but I don't understand why suits would matter in spots like these when both hole cards hit the board?
they won’t bluff with those hands no but given my pot odds blockers to the nuts > unblocking bluffs. although as I said vs this player the frequency at which I wanna defend goes up. the reason I say blocking both boats would be favourable vs a normal reg is because we naturally wanna be blocking hands that ip opens and has boats with. they’ll open only K9 and J9 of the suited varieties. however it would still be waaaaay better to have a T in my hand
@@BenaBadBeatPoker thank you very much for the explanation!
At 5:18, would you fold all flushes here, e.g. A5s?
I’d definitely call nut flushes more frequently as I do believe ip shoves them so it’s nice to block them!
i would of folded the Q♠J ♠ too. Easy fold, honestly against certain player types.
yep fair enough! i think vs some players it's closer but vs many a snap fold
nice red lines! and I think that JQs is a nice fold after you overbet river and face a rec shove,really underbluff pot
thanks! agree prob a standard fold - it was vs a reg though!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker lollll I wrote it after finishing the video so I guess I messed it
Your location says Thailand on GG, how are you able to play on ignition?
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my account was made when i was in thailand hence the thai flag. i currently live in australia so that's why i can play ignition!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker But GG doesn’t operate in Australia? 🤐
Thanks for the reply, was hoping ignition is playable from Thailand. Love the videos!
if your account is with n8 and you’re verified you can play from anywhere
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Ohh wasn’t aware of that, thanks!
Another great video lads 🔥
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Uk players allowed to play on ignition ??
they are if they live australia!
When streaming on twitch 0.o?
no plans just yet!
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Great video!
thank you!
How’s your experience with Iggy 2k? Heard bad things about the bots and collusion
my results started well and have become increasingly worse hahaha. definitely loads of dodgy stuff going on there atm but i have very few grinding options!
Will we see any further collabs with Easty?
yes!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker amazing. I know you guys play at different levels but the collabs you've done together have been awesome.
How do you fold QJ spades ?
You block queens and he should never have any other boats here.
Maybe ace high flush but again you block high spades.
What did he end up having ?
a couple of things really - im close to middle range otr when using the big size so calling feels pretty unwarranted. I do block some flushes and a boat yeah but this doesn’t feel like a good enough reason to call. sadly we don’t know their hand!
@BenaBadBeatPoker have you ran it into a solver?It's probably tight. I just think his value range here can be KK or AA with one spade or even A3.
Hard to put him on a better hand here. Nut flush, 1 combo of quads, 1 combo of queens.
sadly we can’t solve this one cus we went 4 way to the flop! I’m pretty sure A3 and AA/KK would fold river but if they ever do have those hands then you’d absolutely be right that we’d wanna call. I’m just not convinced those hands are in their range
@BenaBadBeatPoker cheers for reply
Amazing stuff as always 🍿🍿🍿
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Hand at 7.00, can't he also have AA KK QQ with a heart that wants to check that turn?
some of the time but pretty discounted tbh. especially QQ being pretty vulnerable. would be interested to see what a sim says though!
Feedback is 'we want more' :D
more on the way 🙏🙏
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Would be cool if u made a discord channel for your viewers where u give out free poker tips and content updates!
stay tuned to episode 6 for details 🫡
how did you know?!!
Amazing how fast you manage to say your four-syllable name!
hahaha it just rolls of the tongue mate
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Were you referring to my comment in that video you recorded with Carrot? 😀 In any case, I loved the video.
@@videootje86 hahaha yes bro
the ol' q2s
sometimes you get dealt the Q2 and decide it's time to go with it
Ur big bluffs all round dont seem to be working thr majority of the time i think you have there a leak that needs addressing esp cuz ur on a downswing bro ... on a positive note love your videos ans explanations and your a sick player jist please start winning again regularly cuz ur talented pls consider focusing in your failed bluffs good luck bro x
big bluffs definitely not working out bro! but just remember I don’t post the ones where people fold as they don’t make great content for UA-cam haha. thank you for watching 🙏
@BenaBadBeatPoker yeah I bet that's right but you should lol they so much fun to watch pls consider a bluff compilation video ileven if u average win like 10-50bb per bluff because fish like me would love to learn and also it would be good for you too and ur fans bless glgl
that’s a great idea thanks!
Would you rather be playing with aggro fishes or weak semi-passive regs? Cause from my smallstakes eyes, playing with these guys looks stressful.
haha absolutely aggro fishes! they'll have a way larger loss rate. but yeah, you'll be putting your stack in very very often lol
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I had enough! could you just stop calling the yellow line orange for fucks sake
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1st hand:
I feel like most suited broadways are easy squeeze from the bb there, you want to call suited Ax and pocket pairs to play easy in multiway.
Mp will have a bigger range to iso the fish, btn will call light-ish there to play the pot, good squeeze opportunity as long as you don't go crazy.
As played your range is kinda weird there, right? guess you have some A3, a ton of Qx...and that's about it. Maybe 77? so bet/folding is burning money of he can approximate your range pretty well.
2nd hand:
I actually like shoving preflop here, in gto wizard you have a small 5b to balance out your AA with half of AQs BUT you have a few shove with AQo and a lot of A5s. Just make life easier and shove AQs pre, it's never a big mistake vs competent players since they should have some 4b merged hands that will be in a shitty spot.
Also, because you're 3betting a recreational bb knows you should be lighter so he will 4b lighter.
3rd hand:
Of you know he's splashy ez calldown any tp vs this kind of players, they will always find enough bluffs.
Other hands, very nice played
thanks for the feedback!
h1, yep range is vvv weird. we ofc turbo fold our 3x unblocking the value so left with flushes only. i think i fold 77 4 way tbh. while i agree that folding is a torch when we look at our range, i don't believe that this player will find enough (if any) bluffs!
h2, shove pre totally fine yep! but i don't like your logic of 'making life easier for ourselves'. that, by definition, will likely make our opponents life easier. although they did have a 0% freq A7s so maybe i shoulda jammed haha. you make a good point about 3betting the rec and bb being wider though - thanks!
h3, yep agreed
appreciate the analysis mate! glgl
@@BenaBadBeatPoker
Wow, fast response. If you're sure he doesn't find any bluffs ( AA comes to mind with the flush blocker since vs the overbet he is bluffcatching vs a very strong range ) then sure, fold, but it seems like a 100% fold range so i never discount people getting fancy/creative to adjust so hard as to fold top of my range.
h2, making life easier in the sense that we don't know their ranges or have good info to play correctly. And vs the fish i'm probably going a more merged range ( so no A5s in the 3bets ) then my 5b jam i skewed towards too much value. I just know that solvers love more 4bets and 5bets oop then ip so you realize equity easier.
But i love your vids, keep'em coming.
hey BBB! loving so much the Chanel, one question in 10:45 you say rivered str8 won't jam by villain, what would the optimal size be if he rivered a str8 there in your opinion? cheers!!!
@@SultanOfSwings I think it’s likely a check back in theory!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker maybe it's a XB after villain stabbed big OTT ha? had he X turn or bet smaller OTT and OTF then logically it could still be a bet OTR🤔🤞🤞🤞
Great video!
nice one alex!