This Daria Episode Really Makes You Think
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Had a really bad cough while I was making this. Apologies if I didn't hide it well enough.
So far I haven't noticed anything
It's a really good quality video
It's OK Shady
Your congestion is now immortalized.
I’d never had known.
Would hate undertale movie?
Brittany really *is* nice. She's just a bit shallow and silly. She's never mean the way the Fashion Club are. Quite a few times she invites Daria to hang out with her because she thinks it's a nice thing to do. She keeps Daria's secret about her rash and cheers her up when she feels like a hypocrite for wanting contacts.
It really is refreshing to see a pretty popular girl in school who isn't mean for no reason in media. While a lot of "popular girls" in school are incarnations of the devil who revel in psychological torture, a greater number of them are that popular because they're genuinely nice and make an effort to talk and get to know a lot of their classmates.
Yes! I’ve always had a soft spot in my heart for Brittany, she IS nice!
Though Brittany’s voice gets on my nerves a little, I can’t bring myself to dislike her because she’s generally positive, confident, sticks up for herself and though she’s not book smart and can be very naive, she’s intuitive
@@ashleightompkins3200she’s also an expert tactician
She's also terrifying in a paintball tournament.
When I was in high school, I had a bully. He was very popular, captain of the wrestling team and held all kinds of huge parties on his parent’s property. He used to slam me into lockers all the time, one time in swim class he called me over in front of the girls team and kneed me in the crotch so I fell in the water. He was a nightmare. One night, at one of his huge forest parties he got on his motorcycle drunk and drove head first into a tree. He was like 17. For the next month there were vigils, assemblies, and even write ups in both town papers. The wrestling room got named after him and ever kept talking about how great of a person he was. The year book was titled Year of the (his last name). As I watched everyone grieve I wondered if there was something wrong with me. He was just this monster that made my life hell and he died doing something “cool”. I felt relief no longer looking over my shoulder and worrying about being beaten up. Years later I went to my high school reunion and there was a group of all the popular kids talking about him. I sat with them, and eventually they asked me what I remembered about him. I was honest but I also said that I would love to know some good things about him. One of his friends asked my why I didn’t come to them or tell them about this abuse he did to me, that they would have talked to him. All I could think was you were there, you laughed when he shoved me into lockers or knocked my lunch out of my hands. But I didn’t say that, they were grieving a person I never met. I was think of this monster they didn’t know. I didn’t want to hurt them so I just let it go. Finally, when I was working an IT desk job an old man came in to get his computer looked at. We got to talking and it turned out he was from my home town. He asked me age and said” well, you must of known my son” That’s right, this was my dead bully’s father. I excused myself saying I just got a call on the radio and then had a panic attack in the back room. This nice old man was clearly still in a lot of pain some 20 years on. I had to have a a coworker go help him. I couldn’t accidentally let it slip how I felt about his son.
I guess this made me realize that you are not always the same person to everyone. I am sure there are people out there that hate me, that find me to be an annoying jerk. And there are people who find me important in their lives and a light in their world. It is fine to feel relief when someone negative in your life dies, but you have to be able to respect others grief and let them remember their version of that person. We all deal with death in our own way and we are all different parts of peoples lives.
Thank you for sharing that.
I deeply admire you. I really do. I'm sure it wasn't easy
Fun Fact: In almost every episode the Morgendorffer's have lasagna for dinner.
Is that a reference to her mood and Garfield.
Lasanga, Caserole, and occassionally Pasta. Those are the three tenants of Morgandorffer family dinners.
I feel like I saw a garden salad at some point that Helen is using wooden salad tossers with.
I swear they had meatloaf once
Don't forget tacos too
It was and is refreshing how the popular kids i.e. Brittany and Kevin are never particularly mean nor malicious towards Daria, hell they're even dare I say friendly with her.
I always liked that. In any other show they would have been the stuck-up popular people looking down on everyone else. Here, they were dopey, but never mean spirited.
that one episode where brittany was the only one who could get daria out the bathroom stall🥺🥺
I was Daria growing up...
That element actually made the show feel that much more real to me... The popular guys and girls were always nice to me too and didn't act all stuck up and stuff.
...
Here we are 20 years later and Christina flipped her car and has a beautiful concrete angel...
Cherish every single moment, young ones, I implore you
Ngl I love it when the "Popular Kids" actually earned their titles and reputation through being chill, friendly and nice people. The Popular Kids in SU were like that too and I need more of that.
@@fenrirsrage4609 I was recently rewatching SU and I always loved that whole social dynamic... But I'm also a pizza delivery girl so... XD
Daria was right. You don't have to mourn when people you don't like die.
Yes but you don't have to go on and on when others are mourning either.
That wasn’t Daria’s point though...
No one said or is forcing her to mourn. They are just mourning and Daria is taking her views out on them...
Yes you don’t have to mourn people you don’t like. You also shouldn’t be a piece of 💩 and hate on the dead especially when it’s around people who actually do feel affected.
Or in my case? When you saw the death coming a mile away and was able to mentally and emotionally prepare. That was... That was a really awkward funeral where I was the only one who wasn't crying despite being close to my grandmother
Absolutely. If someone is a jerk, they should be remembered as a jerk. Pretending that someone is suddenly awesome because they achieved the incredible feat of dying (like the same isn't going to happen to all of us) is highly illogical, stupid and thoughtless. It's one of those things that people just mindlessly parrot, never really giving it a thought.
I think Jodi wanted to have an honest yet cynical conversation about Tommy. In later episodes it is shown that Jodi is constantly trying to maintain a perfect image. That she does not get many chances to drop the façade and speak honestly. Daria and Jane are some of the few people that Jodi feels comfortable enough to genuinely loosen up around since they are both honest and smart enough to speak candidly themselves. Jodi isn't actually looking for advice here. She probably had a good idea of what she was going to say already. She was looking for catharsis. A chance to let release all that pent up frustration with people who actually understand.
Jodi is like Daria but she has overbearing parents that won't let her be herself.She has to be perfect,she has to be well rounded.She can't just do anything for fun.They show her parents in an episode
@@brittaniharold1880 That was addressed in the "Gifted" episode. And it also came up in the "Is It College Yet" movie, where Jodie says that she wishes to attend a HBCU as opposed to the very elite, overwhemingly white university that her father wants her to attend. Jodie feared that if she attended the university that her father wants her to attend, she would have to continue to have to be perfect, whereas Jodie feels that if she attended a HBCU she would be freer to be herself.
Exactly.
I think in part Tommy hitting on Brittany is in part not only showing how sleazy he is, but also shows how he "peaked" in high school, that he's stuck in the past, a person who has nothing but a past fleeting moment of "glory," and he uses it to prey on those he THINKS will fall for it.
It also shows that he really would make a good youtuber
Yep, he was a creep.
Fun fact: some people smile not because they are happy, but as a defense mechanism for uncomfortable and stressful situations. Its great for reassuring people
You are totally right
And some people don't smile because they don't feel like it and that's also fine.
Sometimes there's nothing to smile about and sometimes smiling is just more of a pain than need be.
As someone who's been called a pessimist more times than I would like, I appreciate Daria's willingness to say what she really thinks rather than going with what you're "supposed to say" in this situation. Death does not unjerkify someone. And yet the jerk's assessment of her was right, she does go out of her way to find the bad in things, so actually they had speaking their minds in common.
I disagree
@Sunset's Channel It's similar in a way to the assholes that find religion and expect people to forgive and forget all the horrendous shit they've done and sadly some go along with the change of personality. I prefer to be honest and really find it distasteful when during a eulogy when just the person's good parts are highlighted and their faults are not mentioned, alluded to, or are downplayed.
@Sunset's Channel I'm of two mindsets. If someone treats you like crap but never apologizes or make amends with you then screw them. If they do and try, then it's up to you to forgive or not. Not saying you have to but its an option.
He may have been a jerk, but he was a jerk with a point.
@@Nomed38 you ah must not be asked to do a lot of eulogy’s then. Because going up and pointing out bad shit a dead person did in front of their grieving loved ones is a quick way to a fist fight.
It's nice that Jane isn't 100% the same as Daria. The small differences in how they handle people and situations gives Jane that extra push to being my favorite character.
It's good writing, because while it's easy to write characters who are very different, it's significantly harder to write characters who are nearly the same.
Their different home lives too contribute to this. Daria is contrary more for the sake of it even though she has parents who want to connect with her despite their flaws (Helen’s workaholic nature and Jake’s neuroses). Jane’s parents are very hands off and Trent isn’t hands on in their emotional absence, so Jane lacks someone willing to be there for her and who will fight her corner. Yet Jane has let Trent in and is more empathetic as well as self-aware whereas Daria only lets in Jane because their personalities are so similar.
@@jbcatz5 Damn, that sounds like a great episode of Daria all on it's own tbh. Daria is great, but I do think people tend to oversell how correct she is at all times, or that her cynicism is always justified. Daria didn't come out at a time where deep character development and story arcs were super popular, although Daria does have a few small arcs, but I think if Daria came out now there'd definitely be high potential for an episode, or maybe an arc, to call out Daria's walls a little bit, and maybe have her learn to show slightly more kindness and patience to people, as well as letting people in a little more, while still keeping her sharp wit and not taking any undue crap.
@@gregvs.theworld451 I think there was one where Jane had a crush on a guy who Daria thought was not worth it and Daria kind of panicked. Reminds me of Mae and Bea at that college bar when bea was pretending to be dumb to get with the guy
@@gregvs.theworld451through daria does work for teenagw cymicism andd does lean in the unreliable perspective in her a lot
It's funny how you don't realize how well written some of these old school cartoons were until you're older. It allows them to hold up well, especially for breakdowns like yours 👍
Real shit
Yep
Yeah! That’s why I love watching deep dives into the shows I watched as a kid/tween. Also it kinda shows me why I am the person I am 😂. I feel like a lot of the cartoons I watched (I’m a 90’s kid) were often about very deep existential themes and I didn’t even realize it back then
@@FabiolaRVela True. I'm a 90s kid too. Some shows just stick with you, especially the special episodes that will air around Christmas. I watch countdowns and think 'Yeah, I remembered that episode even now as being an emotional one. Good times.' Hey Arnold's episode with helping his neighbor find his daughter is just one example.
No spoilers, but Daria's world view is eventually challenged and she goes grow throughout the series.
Yes she does
Good ending
17:26 I view this differently. Jane saying Trent forgot is just her expecting her brother to be his typical self and just legit forgot, but Daria coming back with "no, he didn't" I think is important because it pointed out to Jane that Trent, despite his laid back go with the flow attitude is indeed thoughtful
Indeed. Trent is just very subtle about it. But he is very observant.
One thing I appreciated about Jodie was that she was one of the few characters that could consistently call out Daria on her own terms. She was every bit as smart as Daria, but also had to deal with a heap of bullshit that Daria didn't. Thus, she was always in the perfect position to shut down Daria when she got a little too much on her high horse about this or that moral stance.
It wasn't that much in the way of call outs you know ? But due to the fact that Jodi being an African-American student in a predominantly white school would have more reasons to try to fit in (especially with her very demanding parents).
Daria had, in an addition to being Caucasian, parents who at least let her be herself.
A fact which Daria acknowledges and so does Jodi. Were they both confessed they would like to be a little bit like each other.
I can relate to both Jodie and Daria. They were decent acquaintances and they had respect for each other and I can appreciate that.
I think Daria viewed the student council as being just as shallow as sports and the fashion club.
Tbh, Brittany is the most emotionally honest character on the show. We can all learn from Brittany.
Dude, have you not seen the show ? Daria is very honest about her emotions and very upfront about being authentic...
She's cynical. That's her whole thing. Brittany is just Brittany and she just wishes the best for everyone.
@@seeleunit2000I don't think she is as honest and upfront all the time, she actually avoids being too earnest to protect herself. She covertly loved her sister, she struggled (a lot) to admit she cared about her appearance, and she hides her jealousy towards Jane's extroverted nature many times.
She is a great character in part cause' she is contradictory.
Daria is a character who values authenticity above all else. What drives her feelings of frustration and anger in this episode (and throughout the show) is what she perceives as a lack of authenticity in others. Everyone who ultimately cane to her for confort had plenty of evidence that Tommy was a shit person yet "chose" to stay silent on the subject. Deep down she believes that everyone is aware of the negative things in life but choose to "lie" and pretend they don't exist instead. That's why she hates being called the misery chick: she doesn't see herself as a negative person but rather as one who says the truth.
And, feeling as though you're the only person in life who sees through the facades of life is unbearable
This blew my mind. Wow. ❤
Everyone always remembers how Tommy was a jerk because of how he treated Brittany, but how he treated Kevin gets glossed over when I think that shows more about just how much of a jerk this guy was. First, season 1 has made it a continual point this whole season that Kevin is very insecure about his scrawniness. That's why we never see him out of his football attire. The attire hides his scrawniness, and lets Kevin deal with it by pretending it doesn't exist. He also couldn't take the modelling job he was offered in one episode because it meant that his scrawny body would constantly be on display, and Kevin doesn't know how to handle all of the emotions and insecurity surrounding that.
So we see Kevin idolizing Tommy because that's what he's supposed to do. Tommy is told that Kevin idolizes him and is his biggest fan. How does Tommy treat his BIGGEST FAN? He immediately taps into Kevin's biggest insecurity by making fun of how scrawny he is, immediately tries to sleep with his girlfriend just because he can, and he immediately makes it very clear that he does not value anything about Brittany or Kevin as people whatsoever.
The difference though is the different way that Brittany and Kevin handle this. They were both treated horribly by Tommy in ways that were completely unacceptable. But only Brittany realizes this. She goes into a crisis though because she doesn't understand how to process that her own view of Tommy is now not the view she's SUPPOSED to have of him, namely, the same idolized view as everyone else. This is made even worse when he dies. She actually feels guilty because now she really thinks that she's SUPPOSED to be idolizing him, and that she must be a bad person for having a different opinion. She can't process that her view is correct while everyone else's is wrong because she has it ingrained in her that everyone else must be right.
Kevin avoids this crises entirely the same way that he avoids his scrawniness insecurity. He immediately goes back to idolizing Tommy as if nothing ever happened because he also has it ingrained it him that Tommy must be awesome, and everyone else must be right about him. So much so that any uncomfortable contradictions to this belief just get glossed over and are never acknowledged.
Tommy being a jerk to these two is forcing both of them to challenge some of their core beliefs because his being a jerk contradicts them. Kevin just doesn't process at all and immediately goes back to his happy place. He'd probably do this even if Tommy slept with Brittany. Brittany one the other hand at least recognizes that there is a struggle here. I think this is why Daria compliments Brittany here. She's able to have compassion for Brittany because she sees that at least Brittany is actually trying to think for once, so she rewards her for doing so. Plus Brittany is probably the only other person in the world besides Daria who knows that Tommy is not someone who should ever be idolized.
this is the same concept i noticed when i first watched this episode too. i understood that daria was insensitive about the sudden death of this guy, but she was right to call out the hypocrisy of him being idolized. its frustrating to not be able to have an honest discussion about a person’s character and how they really treated other people during a time they’re being heavily discussed, like the tragedy in this episode. britney and kevin are experiencing cognitive dissonance, while daria is not because she’s aware of tommy’s true character and doesn’t feel the need to put on airs just because he passed away
I also felt frustrated with their antagonistic attitude towards Daria. Daria wasn't trying to be mean or a "misery chic" she was a witness to horrible actions that made her immediately dislike and question the former alumni. And I'm glad Brittany also stood up for herself. And that she was able to be reassured by Daria that her feelings were valid. And that those feelings don't make her a bad person. Daria was being true to how she felt and I think Jane was spooked because she reassured Daria when she mentioned he'd have a quick death. I think that made Jane feel like the misery chic as well. Daria was labeled one but Jane is visibly spooked from the immediate misery she felt after he actually dies. She is projecting her disdain on Daria and tries avoiding her and other in order to cope with it all. Daria wasn't aware of Jane feeling spooked because she thought she would agree with her. They could both be seen as misery chics,but Jane bailed emotionally on Daria and Daria failed to acknowledge her friend could get spooked. She was confused and Jane pulling away made the label stick and perturbed Daria further. Because now she did feel miserable with her friends' sudden detachment.
This is a great Jane episode. I didn't notice how well-written she is until my second viewing of the show. Best quips by far
Most of the characters in Daria are overlooked, especially Jane, Quinn and Helen
Jane was always my favorite character
I love how fleshed out her character was. The writers did an amazing job of not only telling you who she is, but also showing. I don’t want to spoil any part of Daria for those who are reading this, but by the time that they do the Daria movies and Jane has her own seperate storyline, you really see the payoff of how naturally Jane can be placed in a different setting with new characters, and it feels genuine to her and she can carry an entire storyline.
She’s my favorite character
Diary and Jane are the main characters of the story. It was an episode about them both dealing with Tommy Sherman dying.
And their views on the matter.
As someone who lost my grandpa back in October due to a stroke most of my family would’ve been in an emotionally vulnerable state. Unfortunately 17 years prior my uncle died of colon cancer when he was 25 years old. So most of us handled our grief quite well and quickly moved on.
When you have experienced trauma in the past and dealt with it well, it prepares you for future pain in a way. It's a bittersweet silver lining to misfortune.
Grief is a weird thing. My grandma passed away earlier this year, but I felt that I'd already finished grieving for her as dementia had chipped away the person I knew for 15 years into someone who was constantly, understandably angry that she couldn't speak or eat on her own anymore. So for people to hear that I was fine or even "relieved" sounds pretty cold from the outside. Really, it was just good to know she was free and at peace now.
@@VagabondRetro I can't speak for everybody, but I can see truth in that. I lost my mom at 13. When I was in my 20s, I still am, but younger than I was, I lost a close friend about my age who had his whole life ahead of him. Obviously that hurt like hell, but I think dealing with it at 13 definitely helped not make the blow completely shatter me for awhile.
@@gregvs.theworld451 I can really relate to that though my mother is still alive and you have my condolences. I've been to more funerals than birthday parties, been the paul bearer at about a dozen funerals, and spent more time in funeral parlors than at a friend's house. People think I'm cold because I'm not depressed, weepy, and miserable when someone dies. Sure I'm usually sad about it but I grieve in my own way and privately. I hope you are doing well out there fren.
Okay, death from colon cancer at 25 would probably make Daria say "God-DAMN that's fucked."
One time a grown sleazy car salesman tried to hit on Brittney, calling her "sweetheart" and offering to take her for a drive.
In front of her classmate, no less,
Hey 9 here god why does that sound like a youtube video
Don't forget about the substitute teacher that was stroking Tiffany's hair in another ep
@@PJSmooth8759 Oh yeah!! "I just wanted you to call me Ken... :' (" I really disliked Angela in that episode afterward.
remember when that wasn't something to have a total meltdown over? better times. I'm kinda disappointed in Shady for giving such a huge fuck about her age.. high school was okay back then, as well as the entire history of humanity before that. But at least he tried to take the specific contexts into mind and admitted it just "feels" creepy. Pro tip, if your logical brain says something isn't so bad, but your feelings say otherwise? You've been manipulated.
I actually read the conversation between Brittney and Tommy slightly differently. I assumed it was meant to be weird because of how he was hitting on Brittney despite the fact that she was still in high school. It gave the impression that he generally didn't care in anyway that Brittney was not old enough, and not interested, and when she tried what a lot of women go to as their response to unwanted flirting anyway, the fact that she has a boyfriend, he still didn't care. And then that was also coupled with the fact that she HAD mentioned her boyfriend FIRST THING and yet he STILL wanted to hit on her despite it ALL
That's the point. Tommy Sherman is (or was) a creep. He's a shitbag. Plain and simple. There's no need overanalyze this.
My paternal grandpa passed away when I was 12 and my dad asked me if I wanted to go to the funeral. My dad didn't want to force me into that awkward event, acknowledging that I barely knew him. Yet, he wanted the choice to be mine. I hesitantly declined the invite but hugged my dad afterwards, thanking him that he gave me a choice free of pressure.
"One thing they did well so far is the friendship between daria and jane" oh shady, the writers have such things in store for you
This was the 90s. Emo didn’t actually exist yet. That’s beside the point though.
Daria isn’t seen as the misery chick because she doesn’t smile and it isn’t because she’s antagonistic. She’s seen as the misery chick because she’s intelligent enough to not be happy and just do whatever everyone else thinks they’re supposed to do. She goes against the grain. That makes her “miserable” because how can you be happy if you aren’t exactly like everyone else?
Right, if anything her attitude is more in line with a goth. Daria finds comfort in the reality of decay and entropy and is most often more stoic in her cynicism than emotional.
"intelligent enough to not be happy" as stupid people aren't miserable shits too a lot of the time. Intelligence has nothing to do with happiness. Happiness is a state of mind, not a byproduct of intelligence. It's just a lot over thinkers corner themselves into a box of assumed negative facts about life - all novelty will be gone as I grow older...even though giving up inherently denies you the intellectual participation and earnest inspection to actually find novelty in life and its things. It's a self fulfilling prophecy-
The truth is that most people are just as smart, if not sometimes more smart than seemingly intelligent people - albeit in differeent ways - but when you're depressed, when you're cynical and got a gripe. You feel like those people are ignorant because they ain't in YOUR head and don't care about YOU care about. It's one of the reason rick and morty became so bloody obnoxious as it merged rick crappy mood with the meta-narrative and "rick was right" motive.
I'd say, if anything, the reason you get people like this isn't out of an inherent inferiority or superiority but the advantage of individuality. Being yourself is great, but truly bieng yourself means accepting your flaws. Which is why the video is right. Daria can't accept she dosen't get her cake and eat it too. If she embraced that she was COMFORTABLE with a strongly more...won't say dark...more long term end of the line vision of things. She could improve while remaining true to herself. She could say "I'm comfortable here...but maybe I am a little...TOO comfortable sometimes in this mindset and it would do me good to trek out a bit:" and then disocver she was still her, no betrayal after that. That would be good. But instead it overly focuses on outside appearence, not inward reflection and so nothing is achieved. And because of that, her true awareness of WHY what she is comfortable in is not revealed because she does not reflect one bit on when it could and could not be empathetic or reasonable to outwardly practice in. Denying her the triumph of showing others its strength and proper by having a little bit of accountability and restraint.
Emo didn’t come into the fray until the mid to late 2000s
It did, just not in the form you know. 90’s emo was about introspection and bands like Jimmy Eat World (yes, before The Middle) Mineral, Jawbreaker, Sunny Day Real Estate. If you don’t know these bands, just think of Weezer in their Pinkerton album era. I promise you, it existed. Sans eyeliner and black clothing, it was its own thing that begat the more obnoxious in your face 2000’s emo.
Oh, emo existed well before the 1990's; since at least the 1890's. It just wasn't called emo, and there weren't boutique shops selling apparel and accessories for those seeking some outward sign of their inward view on life.
I think Daria sees herself as a realist. As someone who can see through the bullshit. And, quite often, she can. But because there's so much bullshit, and because she's always the one calling it out as being bullshit, she does tend to bring people down.
Also, I think she is aware that Jodie is going to give a speech about Tommy on behalf of the school. Not herself. Daria is smart enough to know that. What Daria is criticising is that Jodie is going to give a speech honoring a guy Jodie herself doesn't think deserves it. No matter which capacity she's giving it in. Because even if you are praising a guy on behalf of an organization you represent, and not on your own behalf, it still comes off as phoney if you yourself don't believe he deserves the praise. I'm sure Daria would argue that the right thing for Jodie to have done, when told that she had to give a speech praising Tommy Sherman, would have been to say "Sorry, but I don't think he's done anything praiseworthy. So, even though I'm on the student council, I cannot give this speech, as it wouldn't be genuine."
If only we could be happy being completely honest all the time
I think it could be argued that Daria in this episode specifically, was never given time to allow her emotions to process. Almost as soon as Tommy Sherman dies, she is bombarded with people going to her for advice. She may be seeing what everyone else is having a hard time with, and can't connect, but Jane doesn't bring up her emotions until later. She guards her emotions closely, and is something of a pragmatist as well. I know for a fact that I would feel the same way as Daria in the same situation, especially considering people die. It happens. I'll be sad for those I know and love, and uncaring for those I don't. And I don't blame Jane for her reaction to Daria's lack of emotional response, but she could have brought it up and Daria likely would have obliged, rather than hiding from her. That said, grief comes in many shapes.
As for enjoying the negativity, people leave her alone in that realm, so she is able to find peace and quiet in it. So, she naturally gravitates towards it, and making others uncomfortable likely has to do with her being made uncomfortable by normal human behavior. Childish, but she does grow throughout the series as well, and ironically, makes her human.
Or it can even be that she actively likes to push people into thinking. Which, considering her propensity for teaching shown in this series, makes a lot of sense, and this episode itself makes just such a statement, that the dark and depressing "Really makes you think."
Edit: She also likely latched onto the fact that everyone was basically championing Tommy when he was a terrible person, either because she had already processed the emotions and that particular issue still bothered her, or because it was easier for her to process in lieu of said emotions.
Daria and Jodie are both outsiders but Jodie is an outsider because she’s Black. She relates to Daria as an outsider but she has the mentality and burden that she has to be twice as good as her White counterparts. She can’t afford to have Daria’s attitude. The “Gifted” episode addresses that a little bit.
ive never watched the show but as soon as she came on, that’s exactly what I thought
Yeah that was always my thought too. I loved this show and still do. Both Jodie and Mack are shown to *have* to be high achievers due to their “otherness” compared to the other Lawndale kids. Jodie says as much. I always got the feeling that Jodie also admired Daria for having the ability (option?) to be so transparent. It’s something Jodie doesn’t ever really get a chance to do.
@@catrinacrystallinayes but Jodie literally could not afford to be as free and open as Daria and the fact that it Daria never picked up on that is one of the main traits that pissed me off so much about Daria as a character.
@@VinceroAlpha I think it’s one of the things that makes Daria just another teen and has her own flaws. I forget which episode it is, but Jodie spells it out for Daria and I think she did become aware then.
@@catrinacrystallina but that’s not a valid reason to just continue being the stereotypical smart ass. Which also demonstrates that Daria is just as ignorant as the rest of the people in her school and makes her just as much as a stereotype as everyone else, but also a hypocrite, wanting to be the outsider but also living down to the stereotype of goth depressed girl. Every teen has problems that they go through in order to learn who they are and what they want out of life, but some remain in that ignorant mindset that they are special and I see that with Daria in the fact that she is intelligent enough to know what she doesn’t want and not to be but doesn’t want to do the work to find out what she really does want her out of life.
As easy as it is to fall into the trap that Daria and Jane are above it all and smarter than everyone else, they're still just teens and are still ignorant to a lot of things. You can't know everything.
You can be smarter than everyone and still be wrong about some things. Those two concepts are not mutually exclusive. Daria and Jane are most definitely smarter than those around them. They also get things wrong at times.
@ft1725 you can also be intelligent in some aspects and be completely ignorant in others i.e. book smart but not socially smart. That's my point. They have intelligence in certain ways, but are still young to where other categories they still need to learn.
@@ft1725they're not smarter than Joey or D-Mac they're realists without being overtly pessimistic and instead try to live positively.
To the video maker. There's an episode where Daria explains to Jodie that her attitude is what works for her now. She does has her flaws. But that's why she's so relatable. She going by what works for her. But of course she has flaws. She's a teenaged girl coping with a world that's changing.
I think its also how Jane did know this guy better than Daria, Daria just moved there and learned of him immediately before he died- while Jane grew up knowing of this guy. Daria has emotions, but shes very blunt and detached. And she has a very strong sense of right and wrong, and doesn’t understand why to follow social niceties- but thats something she should have to learn to grow.
Daria tends to get bad press because she tells people what they don’t want to hear. It doesn’t come from a place of sadism or mean-spiritedness, but just blunt matter of fact observations and conclusions. She isn’t angry, she isn’t mean, or even sad. She just simply doesn’t look at the world through rose colored glasses.
I know exactly how she feels
I hate how everyone chooses to delude themselves when they know better
You would think it would make the illusion worse when you know the truth
Exactly.
I think another part of Daria's viewpoint here that no one is pointing out is that Daria is diametrically opposed to the "good-washing" that this dude was receiving after his death. She doesn't want to recognize the person who just died as "good" person like the school staff was in the auditorium, and how others were remembering him as a football player - and she doesn't to her credit. She had seen this person she didn't really care for walk into her building, immediately do a bunch of sleazy, uncomfortable and rude things to people around her; saw what he said to Brittany and how it nevatively affected her, and then how he pissed off both herself and Jane directly at Daria's locker. So by the point he actually dropped dead, her opinion of him morally was already tarnished to the point she refused to even tolerate the good-washing he was recieving by default. And honestly similarly to how Brittany was handling her own experiences conflicting with societal expectations- I think Daraia was also struggling with the knowledge of everyone else not being able to see just how bad this person truly was by her own eyes and ears and it just frustrated her ontoo of the other students suddenly flooding to her for help with their mixed feelings on the situation.
I think Daria is the origin or inspiration of all the animation we have now like Rick & Morty and Bojack, she was way ahead of her time and I think she deserves more recognition
As a cynic from a young age I really enjoyed Daria, but as I got older she started to just seem mean without even trying to talk to anyone. And she just grew bland. I honestly enjoyed Jane who explored other avenues, and in a way outgrew Daria herself.
My mother used to call me Daria because I wasn't goth or emo but I was very stonefaced and sarcastic - it was my way of dealing with my issues. Im a very different person now, in no small part due to the fact I moved out many years ago.
The older I get the more I have to conclude that Daria was intentionally written as someone on the Spectrum. This episode seems to hit it hard as she genuinely doesn't understand how/why people are feeling the way they do.
Nope! No! We don't have to pathologise every behaviour that isn't "sunny" or upbeat. We're just narrowing the field of field of what is "normal". She's normal, just pessimistic and a bit dark.
@Yinka5o I agree. There's nothing wrong with being on the spectrum at all of course. It just seems like people will automatically decide a character is autistic just based on if that character is different than the others around them. Sometimes people just have a different personality and it doesn't mean they're on the spectrum.
Stop projecting.
Yep as someone who also is neurodivergent I see it so CLEARLY. But people hate to hear it 🤷 (just look at your replies , they prove my point)
@@Yinka5opeople can think whatever they want and analyze media however they please , I too think she is an autistic coded character,I think there’s loads of neurodivergent coded characters (I can come to the conclusion and see that because I am a neurodivergent person ) all of us , we see ourselves in the media we consume neurodivergent or not. Not groundbreaking stuff really. No idea why your reply seems so defensive.
As someone who watched Daria in real time. I always saw her as a realist. She was a teenager and based on her life experience and maturity in the time she had a certain world view that we watch be challenged over time and we got to watch her grow. Her mom didn't ask her to smile before the picture was taken she asked her after, Daria doesn't have a time machine, so that's a no-go. A person she met for five minutes died and she didn't have a personal connection to him. Okay. That makes sense or else she would burst into tears every time the news comes on. She antagonized Jodie her personality it set, not reactionary, but she and Jodie have a good enough relationship that Jodie knows better than be offended by Daria being herself. She went to talk to Daria for a reason. Daria says the things Jodie would never say unprovoked, that's one of the reasons they are associates or friends. If the easy answer were that she's a pessimist or misery chick people wouldn't feel so comfortable coming to her to seek solace because instead of helping she would have gone out of her way to make them feel worse.
Daria didn’t attack Jodie. Both of them also have similar views on a lot of BS. The difference between them that’s lead to one compromising on their interactions with society is quite literally because of race and culture. Daria is a white teenage girl from the suburbs. Jodie is a Black teenage girl from the suburbs. It makes a difference in how they can interact with society. Their punishments for being contrarian will look very different because of this. Daria is an outcast, with people not listening to her. If Jodie were to be contrarian, she is very aware that those consequences would not be the only ones imposed on her. Her consequences would be much more severe due to the nature of the culture she is in and her family.
She is a realist it's just the pessimism and superiority complex which makes her problematic some episodes. If she works on becoming more humble she'll be fine.
im so tired of people confusing bringing up negatives with being miserable. you cant make informed decisions without looking at positives and negatives.
and people dont like hearing the truth because it breaks their denial. it only feels like being a downer because most people are used to quinns not darias. its like calling someone a downer when they call you and say 'your house is on fire', and replying 'why do you have to be so negative?'
Gotta say, I agree with Daria when it comes to death.
I firmly believe that people aren't owed any more respect than human decency. Ya know, don't steal or hurt them, that kinda thing.
But if you want me to respect you, either your leadership, your position, whatever, you need to earn it.
Dying is not an act worthy of respect. If you were a dirt bag in life, you're a dirtbag in death, and I have no qualms saying as much.
The most you'll get out of me is condolences to the family - but that said, if someone was particularly egregious, then I'm not sure even that would be appropriate. You know, like when Epstein died.
That's fair.
So about the guy hitting on Brittany.
It -is- weird. It -is- creepy. It's showing that not only does this guy not give a shit that he's hitting on someone who is taken and doesn't want it, but a -minor-. He's already so worshipped, he thinks he can get away with it.
It's also startlingly common. Ask women and they'll tell you they've been cat-called and harassed as young as 14. Of course that's not -good-.
So yeah, that's not an issue on the writers' part. It's showing that this guy is /scum/ and has probably gotten away with it before in a system that doesn't really care.
I always extrapolated that Tennyson line out to an idea about living life to the fullest. My interpretation is something more along the lines of "It's better to have experiences and live life, even if that means it's not all good instead of not doing anything at all and not experiencing anything, good or bad."
Personally, the ending made me think 🤔 that the episode's message was Daria learning that the way you act is the way you're looked at by other people who aren't close to her. Dariea and since she doesn't want to change who she is she just accepts it and makes a profet out of it
My favorite thing about this episode is that it shows (kinda) some of the issues Daria's worldview creates for herself, and to me, it makes her seem more like a teenager. She's definitely a super mature teenager but still hasn't quite gotten herself figured out. I may be blowing smoke, but that is what it made me think.
Furher into the show, I feel like Daria's world view is challenged more, and that she does grow as a person. She remains pretty cynical, but she also learns to be more open to other people, too. Of course, there is a LOT of character growth and exploration in the special, "Is It Fall Yet," especially with Quinn!
I like to go back and rewatch shows I grew up with as kid and Daria is one of them. I remember being mind blown finding out the character origins came from Beavis N Butthhead which I really like watching then but as I got older rewatching Daria I felt it was obviously way better written for obvious reasons on top of Darias creator giving up the rights for the character to be used. Your commentary on this just makes all of this even better and I'm glad I randomly stumbled on your channel. Keep up the great work!!! (Subbed)
As someone who was constantly told to "smile more" even at work, I can understand where Daria is coming from. Sometimes there's just no reason to smile BUT as an adult, I also understand why it's important to fake a smile. Everyone calls her the misery chick because that's what she is. she makes everyone miserable around her and while it doesn't bother her since she's just being herself, it does to everyone else.
Now in school, there's no real consequence to this. Teachers and students have to be there but once you get into the real world, you're gonna learn real fast why being pleasant, even if it's fake, is how you keep a job. I've been fired over this due to complaints of not smiling enough and making everyone uncomfortable/not engaging enough. No student is getting kicked out of school for being a miserable loner. This lesson hurts a lot to learn in adulthood.
If faking a smile makes customers more comfortable coming to the business, co-workers more comfortable working with you and friends more comfortable talking to you, then it you do it. Fake it till you make it, as the saying goes. Yes it's shallow. Yes it's stupid. That's just how humans are. We all gotta share this giant blue rock we live on, might as well not make it more difficult than it needs to be.
I love the way you're analyzing the show so far. I remember watching it with my family, I get nostalgia but also a very refreshing review on how realistic and well-written this show was. It reminds me of how I'd like to write.
The Tommy and Brittany thing is a "Dazed and confused" reference. "That's what I love about high school girls. I get older, and they stay the same age." Thank you for doing more Daria videos! Love your face and content
While Daria may not be emo, I have a small issue about how you described emo. Emo isn't about being miserable all the time, emo music and the scene itself is a branch off of punk rock, whilst punk is about being mad at the establishment whilst having your own personal ideas about solutions, emo is about being mad at how unfair life is and how, although life isn't supposed to be fair, how insanely unfair it is and how helpless most people feel because they can't think of solid solutions to these problems, just temporary things. There's also the obvious themes of suicide and depression itself but those are more a less side effects to the unfairness of life emo is about, not to oversimplify.
Sorry for yapping, maybe I got your intention wrong, I'm just a lil' emo myself (mostly just a fan of the music)
Tommy is clearly a predator, this is messed up. I don’t understand why everyone is gaslighting Daria here. Everyone is going to 💀 eventually. Do people really have a hard time understanding this? Maybe I’m just not human.
It's interesting that you bring up that Daria doesn't engage in any real introspection here. You're correct; and it's something that makes her feel like a real person - she has a blind spot, and she's a teenager. That blind spot will come up a few times, I dare say - she holds others to high standards that even she cannot meet. And it will bite her in the ass from time to time.
I grew up in a household where my mother worked as a family court lawyer, similar to Helen except in my case, other families' divorce papers were scattered around my living room floor growing up and my garage became a mausoleum of failed marriages which had to be stored in plastic tubs for a certain amount of years. When you overhear as much upsetting crap as I did living under those circumstances it's easy to latch onto Daria, even if she isn't always right.
I searched "Daria Full Episodes" and this was in the top 5 results. I am so glad this appeared. Your analysis is on point and you show all relevant clips perfectly. 10/10
Daria sees the world and life differently. She's not miserable she's real.
I think Daria is "mean" to Jodi because she's a foil. She's just as smart as Daria, and Daria sees that, and doesn't understand why she is, as you put it, "performing an obligation that she doesn't believe in." In a way, Daria isn't being mean, but being critical because she might think Jodi should be smart enough to know/do better. And in that same way, Daria's lack of a smile is her not "performing an obligation." She's not so much bringing up misery as pointing out hypocrisy. Which I think is why she was kinder to Brittany, because she was showing geniune emotion and confusion, and was at least being honest, which was the opposite of Jodi's reaction to the situation. And she makes up with Jane when Jane levels with her. In all of the situations she values the honest, the *real*. But in the end she's smart enough to understand that others don't see her that way, and finds a practical way to accept it.
I think there's a difference in our feelings about what it means to be told to smile. As a female (who also doesn't smile a lot), I got told to smile, not just by family, but by complete strangers, almost always male, who weren't talking to me for any other reason. It became like a command performance kind of thing, and was really unnerving. It's tied to a whole mess of bad feelings and societal 'customs' (for lack of a better term) like having to look pretty for others, pretending to be happy when you're not just for the sake of others (to whom you have no obligations), and having to be the caretaker and responsible for others' emotions at the expense of your own, whether you like it or not. It's not so overt, but Daria is rejecting that as well. Not being positive doesn't mean she's miserable, and she didn't give everyone permission to use her as a free therapist.
I really appreciate your review. You recognize why this episode is important and impactful while offering more than just effusive praise. I especially liked your recognition that Jodie was acting in the role of a representative. This isn't my favorite episode of Daira (heavy subject and it's not always fun to see Daria and Jane not on the same page), but it's definitely one that sticks around in your mind and shows another side of a lot of the cast.
Daria as a character, was very much of her time, and reflective of the attitudes of many people that age who watched it. The show demonstrated that well, but it also tried to show that Daria and Jane weren't always in the right, and that those attitudes that they represented weren't always right either, even when they were genuine. Daria missing the point of Tennyson's poem is very accurate for the feelings of the average viewer of the time. I Vaguely remember thinking, 'that isn't what it says, but that is what she thinks, and that is so her.'
Daria as a character was really cathartic as a character, because she was an outcast, but one by choice, or at least she was presented as choosing to be one, and for someone who was an outcast, by choice or not, she felt like she was both validating, and mildly ribbing the outsider perspective. Like she pointed out the flaws with the 'system' but also missed out on the fun aspects of student, even when there wasn't any merit to her criticisms. The vibe of the show was " This stage of life is weird and no one really has all the answers so we are just going to let all the archetypes bounce off each other and hope it is funny."
I look at this episode from two ends.
One end, Daria does have a point. Someone dying doesn't change what they did or didn't do in life and she doesn't have a reason to feel sad because, well, she didn't know that dude very well, other than that he was an asshole. However, being cynical, I can understand why people would gravitate more to her when depressing things happen.
On the other end, Daria's classmates and Jane are experiencing complicated feelings around Death (don't ask why I capitalize it). Death and Mortality hits different when the person if around your age, than it would be if Tommy were much older.
I 200% agree with Daria. People don't become great because they died.
My personal issue with smiling for pictures is that when I force myself to smile it looks... well forced. Then I get told to, "Smile for real" and no matter how many times I do it's like it's just not good enough. So after years of this I just gave up. I still give a slight smirk, but that's all you getting.
I think the reason Daria considers herself a realist is because when everyone around you refuses to look at the negative being willing to look it head on is engaging with reality.
People see that as pessimism, but pessimism is looking for the dark cloud that comes with every silver lining. Saying "people generally suck" isn't pessimism, it's realism. Saying "this person doesn't appear to suck, but they will, just give it time" is pessimism; even if that cynical perspective eventually is borne out. The point is that it's pessimistic to assume the worst without evidence
“People generally suck” is absolutely a pessimistic stance to take.
@colingreen5553 no, it isn't. It's a fact of reality. Rousseau was wrong. Hobbes was correct
@@AllanTidgwell Saying “people generally suck” is one of the most pessimistic stances you can possibly take. Out of 8 billion people in the world you blindly choose to assume that most of them are bad or annoying people, personally I choose to see the good in humanity not the bad.
@colingreen5553 you've never studied human behaviour, have you?
I'm a human, and I think I generally suck too. Humans generally suck because humans are humans. Please stop assuming humans are angelic beings of pure virtue (I don't actually think that's your perspective, but that's as uncharitable of a position as yours is of mine)
"I like to see the good in people"
So you ignore reality in favor of idealism. If people act properly X good will occur. But what about when they don't? I'm not arguing about "seeing" people as good or bad. I'm arguing that the state of being evil is a potentiality that occurs regularly. Show me a single human incapable of being evil. I'll wait.
"...worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short" ~ Thomas Hobbes (Leviathan)
This is not pessimism. This is a recognition that humans behave like humans.
Realism is recognizing you could kill me.
Pessimism is assuming that's what you're going to do
@colingreen5553 let's make this as clear as possible;
Is it pessimistic to make the statement "for a carnivore to live something else has to die"?
It's a factual statement about reality that some consider negative. But is it, in fact, factual? If so then the acknowledgement of that fact isn't looking at the world in a negative manner. It's looking at the world as it is.
Existence is neither positive or negative; it just IS. That's Realism. No amount of looking for the ideal will make reality stop being both good *and* bad. If you think realism requires an ignoring of the bad, then you demonsterably reject reality.
Pessimism is focusing on the bad
Optimism is focusing on the good
Realism is acknowledging both
They're both right about this. Daria shouldn't have to feel sorry about a guy that was an @$$hole, and Jane making fun of him dying seconds before he died would at least make her a murderer suspect if Tommy didn't do it to himself.
Considering that he crashed right when Jane finished her phrase, he must've been running while Daria was talking about him having a long life celebrated by society. Dead man running.
It really makes you think.
5:29 Saul Goodman: "Your honor, this man has rammed the goalpost a few times. These impacts weakened his working memory which is why he didn't register that Britanny is underage and has a boyfriend already."
been marathoning this one nightly on paramount plus and we JUST finished this episode last night! so imagine my shock when this showed up in the algorhythm! gotta say I missed this show a lot, and episodes like this are definitely a huge part of it.
Daria is many things but one thing she is not is emo. Theres nothing emo about her. She shows no emotion. She is cold. Like a capricorn and good at business which she does by charging people money to hear their problems
Resting serial killer face.... I'm using that one.
If you're waiting for the show to challenge Daria in her social interactions and choices, you're really going to really like some future episodes. Season 1 has to set the status quo, after all, so that later seasons can mess with it.
There are a few fantasy sequences where Daria is seen as an adult and she seems a bit softer and more open than she is as a teenager..
I remember feeling like I related a lot to Daria when I watched it the first time around when it aired. There is a reason she is still a GenX icon. Lots of folks related to her.
The thing with Jodie; it was a play on the fact Jodie dosnt belive in what she is even doing so yes it’s annoying to see someone work and do something they don’t belive in.
Remember, darias like 15. Its important to make characters her age see the world through a blurred lens. Theyre realists that cant see whats real and are EXHAUSTED trying to see it
I think the thing that a lot of people miss about this show (your video especially reminded me that) Daria is a high school student. She's not fully formed, she's learning and growing. She may seem like a consistent unchanging force of nature but that is the essential tragedy of the show. The mannerisms and personality that she's cobbled together may speak to something wrong but they may also speak to an attempt to be more adult. Which makes it easy to forget that she is as much a kid as her contemporaries.
Looking at the people I know who often come across like Daria I can honestly say in this day and age Daria would be considered Autistic. She is very smart about a wide variety of interests but she has a great difficulty connecting with people or reading social cues. In her case this comes out as a very sarcastic demeanor, probably in response and protection against people constantly pointing out that she is not like other people.
Daria DOESN'T think about misery all the time because she mostly doesnt care. When the subject comes up she realizes the unfairness of life and society and like many autistic people is annoyed by those disparities but doesnt know how to express it in a more expressive way.
Jane in fact is the more cynical in the true sense of the word. She likely sees the world through a Neurotypical mind set but chooses to often perceive the negative aspect of things. Daria has little choice about how she sees these things.
Honestly Daria's reaction is just as valid as everyone else's. We all experience trauma differently and for someone with a more cynical wold view it can be difficult (at best) to understand the way that death makes people suddenly seem to idolize the departed regardless of how they felt for them when they were alive.
It's less a lack of empathy or anything to do with being 'emo' and more to do with the fact that many times especially if the person who died was disliked in life the reaction to their death has more to do with being confronted with our own mortality than it does the person who died which can make the mourning seem performative if not downright hypocritical... It's a weird thing.
This was actually one of my least favorite episodes of this show because it came across as if Daria was wrong or bad for feeling the way she did.
I just found your channel through UA-cam recommendations, and it may be one of the best things YT has ever done. I've already watched several of your videos, and you've quickly become my favorite animation reviewer. I love your style and the perspective you bring to the shows you cover, especially your focus on things such as empathy, integrity, and other such things which seem to almost be dying out.
Also, as an English major, I have to agree with you on your interpretation of "In Memoriam," as an optimistic work. The focus isn't on the fact that love comes with loss, but that the joy and fullness that comes with connecting with others eclipses the pain that losing people can bring.
The episode that really challenges her views on herself, at least the first time from what I can remember, is the episode where she tries contact lens. Brit goes above and beyond in that episode
“You didn’t make him die.”
“You’re not the misery chick.”
“Alright then.”
“Alright then.”
I fucking adore Daria and Jane’s friendship. It’s subtle but you can tell these two love each other
Realism is starting the positive and negative. Daria thinks she is a realist but she's not she only states the bad and while she can glimpse the good, she can not see or grasp it.
"Smiling only to show the associated feelings, otherwise it would feel deceptive"
Me, an Eastern European: "I literally don't see a single thing wrong with this"
7:00 Right, Daria isn't an Emo, just a Cynic.
When I was in highschool some bully on the football team got brain damage and even though his recovery was very possible his parents pulled the plug. The people he bullied then went on tangents about how good of a friend he was to them. He broke two of their arms and a leg of another and when I called them out on being fake ass liars they called me heartless. It's not hearless to not care about someone terrible dying. It's hearless to try to take that person's death and turn it into a chance to hop on the hype train and make themselves look better.
I feel this. You can respect the dead while also acknowledging they were a POS at that point in their life.
you never disappoint shady. i always look forward to your videos and the editing you do makes me laugh every time :)
I got to choose a background at one school. They also gave us plastic coated copies of our phoros, like little trading cards
As someone who grew up feeling like Daria was everything I aspired to be, it is *wild* when you pull her almost malicious indifference into focus. Great vid!
"The person who is brutally honest enjoys the brutality quite as much as the honesty. Possibly more." - Richard J. Needham
We've seen Daria really smile during the pilot episode Sealed With A Kick
We should under no circumstances ever ask Daria to really smile
PLEASE 😭 That smile is a visage from nightmares
Daria depicts what many of us think with undeserved hero worship. Daria saw Tommy for the jerk he was when many were idolising him. His death made everyone confront the grim reality of mortality
There is nothing wrong with speaking I'll of the dead... kindness is for the living
You can speak horrible of the living if they suck, not to thier face though.
I had an unapproachable face too for a while. I actually fixed mine by- whenever I thought to do it- raising my eyebrows to train them out of default-scowl-mode. Eventually they just sort of stayed there. Now my resting face is blank but non-hostile.
Yes, i recall being able to choose the backgrounds for school pictures for my daughter whos 20 today.
I mean, I wouldn't have cared if a guy like that died, especially a potential predator, hitting on a 16 year old girl. So... I feel Daria not giving a fck.
I loved this show when I was in high school, likely because I had a lot in common with Daria. We had a death when I was in school, the kid who dies was treated like a Marytr and the driver ( who was the kids best friend) was vilified. Truth be told no one was perfect, they were both drinking and if who was driving had been switched it probably would have played out differently. I thought I had achieved personal growth, but watching this again, I am siding with daria on the fact that someone died does not wipe out how they treated people before doing so. I loved your insight on this.
I remember being able to choose a background for my photos but that stopped being a thing around grade school
i think perhaps the reason daria sees herself as a realist whilst acting as a pessimist is that she sees wider society as focussed on toxic optimism , and so the constant pessimism she puts forth is done to create a realistic ‘balance’ of both - she prefers being a realist but she does so by being the pessimist, and that’s there the disconnect lies between what she thinks she’s doing and how she’s actually coming across
I do remember getting to choose my school picture background in the first few grades, wasn't till like grade 5 that we only had one choice
Oh man, I can't wait for you to get to the Tom episodes.
"pleasure and extraordinary pain"
-daria
I don't think Daria "earned" the label of "Misery Chick". I don't think it's fair to say she deserves a reductive label just because she's open about the negative. Like, do you deserve to be called a nerd or a dork by everyone because you get good grades? Even if it seems like an accurate label on the outside, it can still be reductive and hurtful. Generally speaking, people don't earn the boxes they're put into.
She earned it by constantly being rude and snarky to others. If she doesnt like being called a rude word she should maybe try not being rude herself.
There's an episode where Daria and Jodi visit a school for the academically gifted? The line, "You see what happens when you give people a chance," illustrates the difference between the characters.
Brittany is an oddly recurring source of good emotional expression and insight, as well as surprising (that she knows it anyway) knowledge, despite being a ditz.