The New Polaris Ranger XD 1500 Is A Joke
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- Let's look at the marketing spin, and the actual capabilities of the most expensive, mass produced UTV to date.
It is overkill, overpriced, and will underperform for most of the use cases Polaris is presenting to you.
Pay 50k and it’s 40% plastic
But the belt in the CVT is steel… that alone has to be worth 49k!
My Ranger was the best investment I could have done on my ranch.. But I bought it new in 2012 for $14,999 . Its done every chore and then some ... Polaris also offered a side by side just like the bobcat as well. Think it was called the Brute .. It just all depends on what your application and needs are .. $60,000 is just insane 😂
Well said. We had one of the early 90's mules on the farm growing up. It was a work horse. I just bought a Honda Pioneer 700 in June to ride around with my kids, and we love it. But we paid less than a third of a fully loaded XD 1500! I will have to check out the Brute! Didn't know it existed.
True if your comparing it to a truck obviously the truck is a better choice for a 100 reasons. I have a truck I'm not looking for this to be a truck. Most people have toys, boats, bikes, SXS, campers you get the picture. None of these are smart investments, they are toys to enjoy. I have 2 bikes that cost over 50K and a Ranger XP1000 that was close to $30K. When I compare the Ranger to the bikes it almost seems reasonable since I can use it for work and play 365 days/yr. In my case I'm consolidating 3 toys into one.....bikes are gone and the XP1000 will be replaced by the Ranger 1500 XD. It's 45K for the 3 seat Northstar Ultimate no freight or set-up fees added on. Many dealers don't charge this at all and most reasonable dealers will waive them. So yes it's stupid expensive, and yes a truck or Jeep is a better deal for many reasons that said they do not fill the toy need for some of us. I trailer my Ranger to other states to ride, in Iowa I can drive it almost anywhere and we ride with friends most weekends. So while expensive it fits my needs and many will buy it for this reason. The good news is nobody is making anyone buy it........ it's good to have choices and we all choose how to spend our discretionary income.
What a well articulated, well thought out, and respectful response man! Truly appreciate a different perspective. I think you fit in the limited niche that can justify the machine, and I hope you love it!
Me too! It's been on order for a while now and I can't wait for it to get here. As I said I agree it's stupid expensive but most of them are now days. I know at least 5 guys in my area that started out with 30K machines (Rangers and Defenders) and have north of $50K in them now. I'm 6'8" and 275 lbs. so the interior space is a big deal to me. I also am after the quieter ride which is the main reason I never pulled the trigger on the new Expedition. (also stupid expensive) @@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel
100% agree
Prices of everything are crazy, pickup trucks over $100,000….
Agreed. You can still get a used 4X4 pickup for 5-10k. Might be 20 years old, higher mileage, and ugly/rusty, but it will do a majority of what this 60k SxS will do. How do I know? I have a rusty '99 chevy that I take all over the farm, it has never let me down, and bluebook on it is around 4k.
For me it comes down to how much time do I spend in it and how comfortable do I want to be. If I'm spending as much time in my SXS as my Denali pickup it is worth it for me to have these comforts. I'm researching new SXS now and seriously looking at this vehicle. I currently own a Polaris 570 Midsize and love it, but it isn't very comfortable and when I'm in it all day I know it. I wouldn't buy this for just farm work I own a skid steer for that stuff. This would be for hunting, fishing, and trail riding with some work, but very light duty work. Not for everyone, but it might be for me.
Man, you are 100% right. I bought a new 2021 Polaris Generals XP4 with ride command a few years ago and if I had to do it all over again I wouldnt of bought it. I was looking for a new hobby to get into and I got hooked on watching ATV Off-Road parks videos and videos where they are riding in the mountains in Colorado. All in all ive been to a ATV park three times in 2 years and havent made it to Colorado yet. Mostly it gets used taking my family for a evening ride around our subdivision. something a golf cart could do. We do love the damn thing but its not worth the price.
Hats off to you. Takes a true man to be able to reflect honestly like that. We ran a hand-me-down gas powered Yamaha Golf cart around the farm for years until I got tired of fixing it every couple of weeks, and our family of four started to outgrow it. There are plenty of places on the farm the golf-cart couldn’t go. Replaced it with a 2023 pioneer 700-4 in June after months of research. Been pretty happy with it. Also didn’t spend General or XD 1500 money. Don’t beat yourself up too bad… You are making memories with your family. Memories that will last multiple lifetimes.
If it makes you feel better, my brother-in-law is the same way. He bought a Honda Pioneer 1000 14 months ago. He's been out trail riding twice, and I have 180 acres to ride on. He mostly putters around his neighborhood, which in this area is not even legal. So, he basically has a $24k garage queen.
@@Bullfrogg2017 LOL. Better than the guys who buy the 40k Harley and then after a season decide their mid-life crisis is over. Your brother-in-law should sell it while it is holding at its original value. Or better yet… give it to you!
I mirror your thoughts exactly although we have a xd10 fully enclosed at my work and it is actually pretty darn nice in extremely bad weather.
I definitely see the appeal of an enclosed cab. I wanted to take the kids for a ride yesterday and it was too chilly in our SxS. Guess what solved that? A rusty chevy truck worth about $4,000. I'd love to run an XD10!
I just got a 1500 northstar ultimate for 40k. And not sure how you relate motor CC’s with bed capacity. Suspension kinda has more to do with that than the motor size.
This is exactly why I purchased a 2023 xd pro 570 polaris ranger (commercial unit) with 60 hours and added a couple accessories for $12,500 out the door! It does the trick and I love it!
Very impressive. You CAN NOT beat that price. 60 hours is nothing. I looked very hard at the 570 - ended up going Honda. My buddy has a 570 that (with an experienced operator) pretty much keeps up with 1000cc machines on the trails. I am sure you will get years of use out of it! Good buy!
Constant velocity transmission in a car are not heavy duty or for towing which is what this sound like.
Well it's very easy to see you have not been out west at all. 12" of travel isn't much on rocky soil. I hunt on my uncles ranch in western ND. You never see him or my cousin using a pickup unless absolutely necessary. Always an ATV or UTV. The rocky soil just tears up suspension and steering components on normal equipment, like stock pickups. I have a lifted truck on 35s and I'm still dodging rocks with my differentials on section lines, better yet a stock truck off trail. Speaking of golf carts, those mini trucks fall apart with any off road usage, they weren't built for it. Even the 4wd ones and 4WD is a necessity on even wet summer days better yet in snow here. Also I'm 6ft and a bit heavier, I can't even get the door closed on a mini tuck. Even had my friend push from the outside, nope. Toyotas used to be a good option, not anymore. Get a used pre-pandemic one, if you can find it. Because the soil is poor out west you need a lot more land for cattle, means lots of off trail and rutted out section lines to drive. When you put on 10-30miles a day just getting around the fields you would appreciate the ride a UTV provides. Yes they have tractors, and use them accordingly, but you don't need a tractor for checking calves at midnight, 2 am, 4am, 6am cause the coyotes already snatched a calf. You need something quick and comfortable. He has a hole setup for running electric fence in the bed of his, which is a Kawasaki mule. Yes these seem ridiculous to some, but there is a consumer base that will use them as utility vehicles and not just cause they want to brag (I know there will be plenty of them as well). To be honest the tool cat around here is useless, to slow, to rough riding for UTV use and everyone has skid steers that can run attachments way better, move snow 4x quicker, have way more lift capacity (think whole round bales and such), and move around about as fast. Each area of the country has vastly different needs, remember that. Even in eastern ND they have way different setups as its way flatter and less rocky. More atvs, skidsteers, and massive quad track or 4 corner dual tractors cause the soft ground.
Appreciate the insight. I also approve of the Mule. Great machines, and we had one of the earliest models on the farm for a decade. I am by no means against UTVs. I have a 2023 Honda Pioneer that was a fraction of the price of these XD 1500's. There is a BIG difference between spending 30k on a purpose built work machine, and spending 60k on a UTV with heated seats. We also have two skid steers on the farm, and most of the attachments interchange with the ToolCat. My dad has a Sportsman 500 that has served him very well. IT goes through CV boots regularly - I only see that problem exacerbated by the terrain you describe. Can't see how a 60k Polaris with a CVT is going to perform better than a 5-10 year old Ranger/Tacoma with some extra money in suspension.
@@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel Factory built suspension for the terrain will be easier to get parts for. Also depends on how much money you want to "lose" in a year. Half of being a successful farmer is convincing the goverment you didnt make any money. So why not have a comfortable, heated seat UTV that ran up your costs. It tell you when the high temp for the day is -10F you definitely appreciate heated seats. Now heated seats are really easy to add youself. Believe it or not the pick up of choice isnt a tacoma or ranger for run around use its 70s-2001 chevy 1/2 tons.
Totally agree; I would love to have one, but a Toolcat would do a helluvalot more for the money, as you showed
I think our tool at is at least 15 years old, run almost daily. It has probably done more work than any other single machine on the farm. I continue to be impressed with it.
I don't understand why people don't get Polaris isn't making these for the poor rancher with a few cows. The guy looking to buy the 1500XD already has a $100k truck. He doesn't need a cheap Tacoma. Kids in high school dream about Tacoma's. The guy buying this already has a toolcat and a skidsteer and multiple tractors. When you are making money, you can spend money. You are looking at it as if you have little money to buy equipment. Or you can only buy one or the other. That isn't who is buying these Rangers.
Ehhh. I’d have to disagree to a certain extent. I’d bet a lot of guys are financing these. I also said in the video that the perfect use case is a rancher who has too much money. The number of actual big money ranchers in the country who can write the checks to buy these outright isn’t going to make production worth it for Polaris. Highly comped sales executives with hobby farms? Maybe. Oil barons that own multi-thousand acre ranches. Maybe.
Guys that are making good money, and actually using these things the way Polaris markets them are going Kubota and John Deere. They are buying new heads for their multiple combines for 60k a piece. Not buying Cadillac golf carts.
@@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel Doesn't really matter if they pay cash or finance people will buy them. There are all kinds of Polaris Ranger 1000s for sale around here because people have a 1500 on order. People are saying that right in their ad. I don't know where you are getting $60k. I believe Polaris was saying $50k for a loaded one. You are also stuck on this rancher thing. That is an ad. Chevy did the same thing in the 90s. All the ads were of farmers in cowboy hats. It's just an ad. People think they are tuff enough to ranch they can handle anything. They are also not golf carts. They are a long long way from a golf cart. You are also getting stuck on the pics in the ad. The guy had one bag of feed over his shoulder, and you get all bent out of shape. Maybe that was the last bag. Maybe he had 10-15 bags in the bed before they took that pic. The Ranger would easily handle that many bags. It actually sounds like you are jealous of people that will buy this Ranger. Like there is no real use for this Ranger. You couldn't be more wrong.
@@mossman381 I respect your opinion and see your point. My video was just as much an analysis of their marketing (which we both seem to agree is a little silly) as it was bashing a machine that I can't afford, and wouldn't buy if I could. I truly believe there is a better vehicle, at a lower price for MOST people's specific use case. If money truly is no object, and someone has a massive property, and wants to enjoy the biggest baddest UTV to date - I am not going to cry about it. But you can get a Ranger XP and a new John Deere 3025E with the homesteader package for similar money. FYI - just built a Ranger XD Crew 1500 NorthStar Ultimate with the Hunt Collection. MSRP as configured (with no additional accessories added) is $56,549. Add destination, and dealer prep fee and you are at 60k. Adding a couple of racks and upgraded factory wheels took it to $59,359 My liberal home state will also not allow you to claim farm exemption any longer on UTVs/ATVs - so I am paying sales tax on top of that
Do you have driven one and you are just tearing it apart? Why?
Your 💯 right about everything you said, it's not just polaris, it's canam also, I know a guy that bought a canam defender 900 and it was trick out and paid out over 35k for it, and that was without a/c or heat, I went with a cfmoto uforce 600 3 years ago and it came with the basic accessories such as winch, front and back windows and roof for 12k and really the uforce will go and do everything and are as dependable as the 60k model are if not more, just don't have the prestige as the high dollar unit have, anyways, enjoy watching your video
CF moto wasn’t on my radar when I was shopping. But I have heard great things. My Honda ended up being thousands more than a CF Moto, but 10s of thousands less than one of those Polaris/CanAms.
I have to TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. The price tag is WAY OUT OF PERSPECTIVE. Like you said, by the time you add accessories you’ve spent quite a bit of money. This is NOT FOR ME
Agreed. They will sell them… just not to you and me!
Thanks for posting. I just purchased a new UTV for farm use. I looked at what the market had to offer and found prices are crazy high and warranties very limited with short time frames. I hated that everything is an “add on” like mirrors, windshield, bumper, winch and such all at stupid high prices.
I bought a unit that came with a 5 year warranty which also included, winch, mirrors, windshield and back window. Time will tell if this cost effective unit is a good choice but all the reviews on UA-cam and the internet have been positive.
Which UTV did you buy and are you happy with it so far?
@@GForceFitness1 I bought a CF Moto Uforce 600. The only thing I don’t like about it is the touchy gas pedal which makes it jerky. To stop it from being too reactive I plant my heel on the floor and toe on the body and push the gas pedal with the middle of my foot.
Agree 100%.
I think some of the appeal is that us guys like our toys to be like legos. Polaris (and Can Am) have found that niche and made it a selling point. That's cool and all but not for what you can buy a house for.
Lol. COULD buy a house for! I agree though. For people who want the ultimate toy... I guess this fills that niche. I just think you could buy multiple really cool toys for the same money.
Take a $12k UTV to a custom guy and give him $10k and you will have more than the XD 1500.
THIS is next level thinking. Great comment.
When I found out SxS short engine life and expensive 20 hour/200 mile service intervals, I opted for a used Jeep CJ.
I almost went this route several times while waiting for my Honda SxS to come in. My wife really wanted the SxS. We had a gas powered Yamaha golf cart that was about 20 years old. Hoping if we take care of the Honda we can get a couple of decades out of it as well. I also didn't spend Polaris money!
I agree! 60k is a lot! I got a 2021xp ranger northstar edition and I paid 30k for it and thought it was to much!!
You have a sweet machine though! Still don’t like the CVT, but jealous of the NorthStars!
I looked at a couple of Polaris machines and decided to go with a can am defender hd9 cab model. I believe it’s the best value for your money . All these machines are getting pricey .
Love the Can Ams. BRP make great products.
I've owned 2 of the polaris 1000 ultimate's I'm an outfitter guide in utah. I do like the cab with heat a/c for winter hunts. Neither machine lasted 1 full year. I was 35k in each of them. So asking 50k to 60k on a machine that won't last a year is crazy
I have two 2016 Polaris 900 XP’s. I put on doors, roof, front and rear glass, wipers and heaters. About $24k each. A lot of money.. but they are an important part of the work force on our small ranch. I will continue to repair as needed for as long as I can get parts. Polaris may have miss-read the customers. I predict fire sales next fall.
You've got the right idea. Maintain them, and those 900s will last for years... maybe decades!
I’m about 1 minute in… …i agree.. someone had to say it.
Great minds think alike. But I guess there are also lots of guys walking around wearing 50k+ watches… People with deeper pockets probably don’t really care about your or my opinion. To each their own!
Good video. You just described every sxs on the market today. In 2018 I was looking to buy a can am defender for $12,000 I couldn't make myself do it. Now the same Defender is $25,000 basic. No way.
I agree with your analysis. I bought a 2023 Can An 6x6 Limited for 31k out the door (which I thought was borderline on value) for hunting and fishing with my wife and 4 year old. Fits in my goose neck toyhauler and can go places my dually cannot. Realistically, this machine with enclosed cab is 65k+ with some accessories out the door. For 34k increase, Polaris is crazy. the guys with too much money will get bored quickly and resale will be horrendous. Even at 40k, I would pass and stick with my 6x6. Love the bobcat.
I feel silly comparing my Pioneer 700 to the XD 1500, but I think a 6x6 Can Am is even cooler than the XD 1500!! 31k sounds like a steal... especially compared to the cost of this thing!
Diamond S Farm....Western Kentucky. I bought a 2021 Can am Defender Pro Lone Star Edition...half that price. It has the 6ft bed..i have an air compressor in the back of it with an air driven post driver mounted in the back. Still room for fencing and post. Wish i could show you pictures. Runs 70 on the highway.
Sounds like a sweet machine. Reasonable dollar investment too!
Yes... i added a windshield with vents at the bottom..driver and passenger side..back glass and factory halfdoors. Adjustment on the shocks and brought it up 2 inches. Building my own rear bumper. Added lights on the front and rear. Farm ready... less than $24000.
I really appreciate the work Polaris has put in here and I hope they sells a ton of these machines, but at this price it’s just not a reality. If the new transmission and steel belt end up working out and being reliable I could easily see them incorporated into the ranger the next few years.
Hopefully it is a case of trickle down technology, because the existing CVT in most of the Ranger lineup is nothing to brag about.
totally agree- as me being ex dairy farmer - that machine is too much money - just buy 4-6k old truck and use that lol - dont need plates its farm exempt lol - another web sight that i love - laura farms - she did video a few weeks ago about these things and i told her id buy jeep first for off road and a used truck or tractorfor farm before buying one lol
Couldn’t agree more. When I bought my Pioneer, I was 80% sure I was going to sell my second truck, a rusty ‘99 Chevy with farm tags. Since owning both, there have been multiple times when I have opted to use the Chevy to save wear and tear on the SxS. That rusty truck owes me nothing, and might be worth 4k tops. I’d rather keep it for the times I don’t want to beat up the “good truck” or the Honda. Blessed enough to be able to keep both… until my wife plans next year’s family vacation 😮💨
One of the best reviews I've ever came across and that's coming from a die hard Polaris guy, thank u!
Picked up my XD 1500 on Friday. Traded in a Ranger XP 1000. The vehicles aren’t even similar. I don’t think comparing to pickup makes sense at all. I think sales will be good for this Utv.
How are you liking it a month in. How’s the ax work
I completely agree with you. I looked at these a month or so ago and thought, someone would have to be a complete idiot to buy this over a full size pickup. Total rip off! Kinda makes me laugh to think about someone actually buying one. Very good job on the video by the way. 👍
Depends on what you're going to use it for. If you're going off roading, then you don't want a full size truck. (I know, just taking my new F-250 Tremor down some roads while hunting and cringing when branches scraped on the side).
Biggest problem is 50K, only 6 month warranty
I bought my first quad at the age of 60 last year and was shocked that it has a six month warranty.
I'm ready to see these things in the wild! They're expensive but guarantee they sell a bunch of them. You'll see these down south with portals and 50" bkt's in no time. We'll see how the transmissions do.
Lol. I am excited to see them too. As long as someone else is writing that check!
I wasn't expecting the jump to Bobcat. It makes sense though if someone is looking for a "work" vehicle with the available attachments.
I've also looked at the Kei trucks; a bit of nostalgia from living over there for a few years.
However, we are still personally getting by with way less... laughable to be honest.
I was VERY close to getting a Kei truck instead of the Pioneer. Wife didn’t find them as charming as I do, and she isn’t 100% comfortable on a manual transmission. My brother has vowed to get one when/if he moves back to the farm!
We got 70,000 in to r defender limited
We ride the mountains everywhere. Love it. I can out crawl a lot of jeeps.
For 70 grand I'd hope so!
True the new 2024 ranger XD is not worth fully loaded 60,000 or 70,000 to me it only worth 25,000 fully loaded
I bet Polaris will still sell a mess of them. Just not my (or your) cup of tea! But that is ok, we live in America, and capitalism is still live and well!
Well also Polaris makes a lot of rangers and still can't get the doors on the right way
I have a fully loaded Northstar Ultimate on order and can't wait to get behind the wheel! People complain about the price, that's fine, it's not for you. I was originally looking at an expedition, but this machine will be much more capable and much quieter. I don't like the High revving machines that make you deaf by the end of the day, and the low end torque equate to lower engine RPM's and should make it much better for pleasure rides with the family, and rides into the backcountry looking for game. The torque will really be helpful in the winter when the tracks go on for playing in the snow.
I agree this machine isn't for everyone, and certainly not for every budget, but to complain about the price over and over is just whining.
The entire point of the video is me whining about the price. If you can afford a fully loaded Northstar, you are using it for pleasure/recreation rides, and you are going to put tracks on it, you are in the top 1% of earners in the country. Not knocking you at all - I aspire to get there as well. I absolutely do not, and will never have the "must be nice" mentality. Fact is, this video was made for the 99% of people whose money would be better spent elsewhere. I am ok with being called whiny by the very slim minority of viewers who can afford and justify this machine.
I love the 1500 XD and I really admire the transmission steel belt oil cooled transmission but the price is crazy!
With that being said, the Bobcat would never work as my hunting rig. Great for commercial applications and brilliant hydraulic attachments but up here in Alaska, I need an off road capable SXS that has a strong transmission, and a good tow capacity so I can haul out my moose. This is why I use a Honda Pioneer 1000.
I have the Pioneer 700 and it is awesome. Couldn't justify the 1000cc. Bobcat's top speed isn't there, but it has a hydrostatic transmission, 4wd, and tows like a tractor. Still think the Pioneer is a better choice for your application... as long as you have an enclosed cab!
If they offered the entry level one for around 22k, might be interested.
Agreed. It is a sweet machine. But it is priced WAY too high. Add any desirable accessories to a base model and you better take out a second mortgage.
This whole video gives the feel of, "I don't get it and I can't afford it, so it's stupid to sell it or buy it." Like, comparing this to the Bobcat and a base Tacoma is like comparing a chainsaw to a snowblower to a table saw and telling us which one is more useful. It's down to the job you need it to do and what you want to use it for.
Don't want to use your High Country to hall feed? Cool. Can't get a pickup out to remote locations of a large Montana ranch? Done. Want something you can use for work on the farm and take out on the trail? The Taco isn't going to fit the bill.
The MOST expensive proposition is buying 4 vehicles to do 4 jobs. If you have $130k to do that, then go for it. I think the fact that you are going to head to a dealer and end up on a wait list to get one of these probably should tell you that it may not work for you, but it clearly works for a lot of people.
Yeah. They got to make a lot of profit per unit. Hence the price.
It’s getting crazy out there.
I own can am defender. They are getting more expensive too.
Expensive across the board... But 30-35 on a Can Am seems more sane than 60+ on a Polaris.
I have a question for anyone in the comments or the author of this video.
(Boring back story) just so you know where I'm coming from.
I'm homeless, but late April or early May I should have enough money to buy a side. By side for my survival business.
Question I have what is the difference between 1 of these and a side by side ?
Thank you for any answers.
Features. This IS a side-by-side. I own a Honda Pioneer 700-4 Side-by-Side. For the average person, it will do 95% of what this Polaris will do. I paid 18k in June of 2023 instead of 60k. I don't have an enclosed cab, HVAC, or bucket seats. But I can run trails as well as this thing can (probably better). Tow/haul respectable amounts, and carry 3 passengers + me. Buy a machine for your specific purpose.
@@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel thanka, it the UTV I need , need to carry stuff and ppl .
@@desertsurvival8235 all the same thing. Look at Polaris Rangers, Honda Pioneers, and Kawasaki Mules. A lot of guys are pretty big fans of CF Moto, but I don’t have any first hand experience there. Also look at used Tacomas or Ford Rangers depending on what you specifically need.
@@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel I'm looking at the the Honda, but any of the 3 would be good, I'm excited to expand my business and any of those 3 are the tools to do it.
I worry about the toolcat getting stuck in places that the ranger wouldnt
You’re absolutely right about everything. This is a want and just a toy is why I will buy one. Don’t need it just want it.
The fact that you know that, are willing to admit that, and still are going to get it means you deserve it! Enjoy it! I am a little (or a lot) jealous.
All depends on interests. If you buy one strictly for farm use then this is totally overkill. If you use it for work and play then that’s a little different. Surely on the east can’t you can’t take any truck on most trails. It’s not like the cost for trucks aren’t stupid priced. Used market is stupid. They are all overpriced. But things like a better sealed cab make sense over a standard ranger northstar ranger. I think this unit is more for checking fields,cattle on large areas and trail riding.
Understand. Maybe it is my ignorance of "the wild wild west". We can take a pickup truck on every farm lane we have.. because a Combine also has to use those farm lanes. If you are checking vast spans of fence or meadows, my thought is a truck will do it. If you want a trail rig specifically for ORV trails, this is the biggest rig you can buy. Why not go for something more nimble? I understand that pickup trucks are expensive too. My point is, a mid-sized 4x4 truck, or low trim half-ton is the same price. You can also load up your family and drive an hour to see your mother-in-law in the truck... but not in the Polaris.
I'd rather spend $100 on a decent knife, $25 on a decent screwdriver, and $75 on a decent saw than spend $200 on a Swiss Army Knife will all those same tools, but performs each task less efficiently.
@@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel makes sense and I understand. People who buy this already have a truck. If this was in your stable with no truck or suv to do work or drive in the road then you definitely has issues right?
Good honest review. I agree completely. When it was first released I looked at it and laughed! You can buy a new Jeep Rubicon for that kind of money.
Agree. But the Polaris loyalist will come in here and yell at you that they are completely different machines, and you aren't allowed to compare them. LOL
@@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel I guess they can just yell at me then. LOL. I have a 2017 Polaris Ranger XP1000. I bought it at model year end with a $2000 rebate. It ended up being around $10,500 out the door. I have another $4000 in accessories hanging on it. I love it, one of the most useful purchases I've ever made. But, for me to drop $50k on a Ranger it would have to come with a hot chick sitting in the jump seat to hold my beer!
💯True !! Rather buy a full-size truck sbs price is ridiculous 😳😱
pricing there self out of business
People will still buy them. Just not you or me!
Love it, great video. Plenty of better options for the money.
Absolutely
Harley is learning about pricing themselves out of a market also!
There is always a limit.
They are running out of Boomers!
I just bought a 1500 6 seater premium no radio no gps. 42,000$
Obviously these are way out of most peoples price range but people will buy them. Same way as people will buy luxury cars or trucks even though they cost more and depreciate more. People also buy the luxury cars for the new technology for the automotive industry, which could be comparable to this since its the first steel belt CVT in a SxS. They do seem a lot quieter compared to a polaris ranger xp 1000. It was definitely engineered to do everything off-road in comfort haha
Bro As Americans we need to put a stop to this.
It almost sounds like Polaris is dating your ex girlfriend… 😂
Polaris can have them. And they can have the 19.99% APR of the guys financing these goofy things.
Good honest review! I dislike Polaris’ marketing…these are multi purpose machines and are not specific task oriented. There is always something better geared for specific jobs. With these machines you can do many things while still having fun! Are they over priced? …Abso-fuckin-lutely! They all are, some more than others! Now can I justify it?..not really …do I want one?.. hell yeah! Lol. I own two Polaris XP 1000 TrailBoss’…a 3 seater and 6 seater Northstar. Already got a price to trade them both in for the XD and almost covers the cost so I don’t feel so bad nor do I feel the pinch since I’ve already dished out for the other two! But I do hope the transmission is not garbage though. And up here in Canada they’re 60k for the Ultimate model! Pretty crazy but man you only live once! It’s definitely not for everyone…. Do what makes you happy and buy what you can afford or need! cheers guys!
Couldn’t have said it better. If you end up with the XD I am sure you will love it. Now… for 60k it better call you sweetheart and cook you dinner. But I am sure it will be an enjoyable machine! You’re right. If it makes you happy, and it isn’t making you miss your mortgage payment! Go for it!!
Yeah, Polaris is getting ridiculous. Their Kinetic with the 30Kwh battery 110 hp motor that seats 3 cost the same ($38k)as a tesla 3 standard range with a 50Kwh battery and 286hp motor, seats 5, airbags and other safety features, entertainment center, gps maps, power windows, and a massive list of things the Polaris doesn't include. And that is before you get to subtract $7500 for tax rebates on the tesla.
Didn't even know about this one! You just gave me the cliff notes for another video!
@@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel I look forward to it.
I used to own a transmission shop and rebuild transmissions. That transmission is just a CVT style just like Saturn and Nissan had they will not hold up. That is not new technology. It will be junk. Good review by the way.
Appreciate the insight. Might be time to re-open your shop. Call it Backwood’s XD Transmissions. We know the people buying these things have money… A 10k check to replace the tranny might not phase them!
your not wrong. but realistically they will never see the milage you see on cvt cars. which is normall north of 50-65K failure
interesting take. while the bob cat is capabale. think you are comparing apples to oranges. but if i was on a ranch i could deff find better ways to strech 50-60 k on equipment then the 1500 price tag.
Agreed that the two are apples and oranges. I just think they over-marketed to ranching to play off guy’s desire to be macho. If they want to pretend they are building the ultimate ranch work machine, I am going to call out there inadequacies.
This is for people that already have a pickup truck. And for people that have F-you money to spend.. if you ain’t got that money to spend , yea you’ll balk at the price.
I get it... that's what I said in the video. If you really just want to impress your buddies and/or have the biggest UTV built (to date) go for it. I just think there is a better vehicle at a lower price point for almost every use case.
Some of us actually need to feed 8 50lb bags of salt/mineral at once & not using a loader to go there. With that said, the price is nuts though. I’d consider for $10,000 less.
Bed capacity on most side-by-sides is around 1,000 lbs. they can handle 400 lbs of salt no problem. My Honda was 16.8k out the door. Problem solved. You want the sealed cab and heated seats that the 1500 XD has? Ford Maverick Tremor edition. LOL
I just got a xd 1500 crew nortstar. Crazy price but only about 10k more then a can am HD defender limited with 4 doors. It is east to find 10k in up grades over the can am and the jd 835r . It is built much heavier starting g with the tires and throughout the machine. It is much faster than the gator and much sturdier than the can am. I have over 20k miles on two 835Rs and over 20k on a can am HD defender limited I like them all and worked them very hard. I have about 500 work miles on the xd 1500 in 2 weeks. The new xd is a big up grade. I can still go all the places that I can't go in a pickup with a 1000 pounds or more of mineral and salt. And I am sure glad to not be limited to 16mph when traveling the 20 miles of dirt road that seperates our places
I am 6 foot 6. The xd has better head and leg room them my f350 and way better then the other utvs. I would not want try for three, but two guys my size can easily fit in the 2nd seat
I spend a lot more hours in the side by sides than I do in my pickup. I would have laughed at it 30 or 40 years ago but now that I am 60+ I am really enjoying the warm quiet comfortable cab.
I think the fellow who made this video should better understand that we all have different circumstances. Neither a tool cat (we have skid steers) nor a Tacoma (we have one ton pickups) would fit what I need but the xd 1500 is doing great so far.
Also I will not likely pull a grain bin or a bumper pull horse trailer with it. However, I will use it two tow two 1500 pound square bales to places a pickup can't access and in 25% of the time it would take in a tractor. Finally, I move cows all the time and can do by self with two cowboys what would require three guys on horse back.
I think a small farm on the east coast sounds great. And, I am sure that my experience ranching in the west does not qualify me to state with certainty what an east coast farm needs. From watching the video it is clear visa versa is also true. The xd probably makes no sense there but here it does.
So far I am very impressed with the xd 1500. I hate the price of it and all the other full cab utvs. However, I think all the up grades in the xd 1500 explains the higher relative price. At any rate I am going to spend the next few years working the heck out of it in about every way one can imagine and I look forward to doing that in a quiet comfortable cab
The statement above referring to two cowboys was supposed to be two cow dogs!
You would get a 10 times the vehicle if you just bought a real truck. My new 22 Ford Ranger 4x4 was only 31K, 2.3 Turbo, gets 24 MPG, 270 HP, 310 pounds of Torque. 10 speed auto trans, Four-wheel power disc brakes with four-sensor, four-channel antilock braking system and
AdvanceTrac® electronic stability control, 7500 pound towing. ++++++ COME-ON MAN!
We went with a pioneer 700/4 use it for work and play only cost 17,000 final cost. That way to much for that XD
You must have read my mind. I purchased a '23 Pioneer 700-4 deluxe in June. $16,800 out the door. It has been great so far!
I agree. I have a 2024 Ranger 1000 and it’s nice. I enjoy it and it has its place on my farm , but it does not replace anything on the farm. It has it’s place Ike my truck and tractor. 60K is a lot to try to impress people…
Great post thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it.
You know what the joke is today is the price of a truck almost being a quater million
You aren't wrong! But if you want something to "work" you can still get a used 4x4 for 5-10k. Especially if you don't care about a little rust on the wheel wells.
YOU ARE CORRECT SIR! 🎯
Lol! You nailed it! What a crock! Even if I won the lottery.....
I really want a 1000 xp crew for my family. It's 24K in Hawaii for it but there's no roof or windshield. Those are the two minimum upgrades I would like. I would love a door so it's safer for my kids but $1000 for the front and $1000 for the rear! Come on. Polaris is the company that can charge whatever they want because people will buy them and unfortunately being in Hawaii makes it hard to get other branded parts shipped here or just a high shipping cost. Still gonna get one though haha. Or the Honda Pioneer 6, but idk if we have dealers for them here.
I’d lean heavy towards the Honda if you can find one. Having a true transmission instead of the cvt is huge. You aren’t that far from Japan! Honda better be in your market! I agree with the roof. I need it in Maryland, you’ll need it in HI. I am pretty sure the Honda comes with factory doors too. Hope you find what you are looking for!
Just put doors and heater on my xp 1000 over 4000$ for parts
@@kevinhudson9434 OUCH! At least you now have a true 4-season machine!
dude you need to do reviews professionally, you're very good at this
Really appreciate that! Hard to stay motivated sometimes. Comments like this make me smile. Hook me up with some sponsors, and I will gladly nitpick their products!
Great review - excellent ! Polaris Marketing is made with (KS) Artificial Stone Age; # New Announcements always late and overpriced! for sure your comparison adds a new dimension !
So many better options. Regardless of your use case. Unless your use case is “most expensive UTV to impress my friends.”
Your video is unique never ever saw USP's analyzed like you did.! For dreamers it should be an eye opener !@@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel
What is up your rear? You seem mad about something.
Cost of side by sides is as out of control as the full size truck market. Truck market is in trouble right now….side by side market will be soon
Time for dealers to pay-the-piper for years of markups over MSRP
The DEF in your bobcat diesel will cost an absolute fortune when it starts getting crystallized sensors.
The one we have is pre-DEF. But fair point. I’ll take crystallized sensors over a sealed CVT transmission.
Toolcats don't use def
@@tomries4429 lol. Thanks for the update. I just assumed ours was old.
Just get a honda Foreman and use your pickup for the wintertime feeding
Works for me... Unless you want to take more than two people on a trail ride!
@ChoresOnTheFarmChannel
Don't know about you but I'm a redneck we can get 5 or 6 people on a quad
You are right 100% It should cost about 25 K or less but you are bashing it
Yep. Wouldn’t be bashing it if it was reasonably priced. I think it is a cool machine. But I also believe there are better ways to spend the same money.
I agree that the price is insane,
but I thought you were going to offer some comparable side by sides to compare to, not tell me to buy a pickup. I already have a pickup. You sound disgruntled. Just sayin.
This thing is about $20,000 overpriced in my opinion… I appreciate the quality and ruggedness but still it’s overpriced!
50k buggy. I'd buy a crew cab s10 soild axle swap it, tires eletric lockers. Do a coil over fornt. Coil and leaf in the rear. And even if you bought brand new dana 44's i think all said and done your looking at maybe 20-25k unless you buy a super low mile super clean truck
$50,000 is $50 for some people
No way I would pay that for too of them
Are you comparing this to a unit with HVAC ? That is a strong consideration for older active individuals . So what is my alternative ? You rightly state a pick up truck is a great alternative - except on narrower trails and wether you have six passengers . You clearly have an issue with wealthy peoples toys - I take it you have an issue with Ferraris too. Those bobcats and kubota uv’s consume huge amounts to of fuel compared to the Polaris which sips fuel and goes fast - ever need to get from one end of the property to other end fast ? . If your properties require road travel to and from that excludes the slower vehicles . And there architecture is almost 20 years old . A tool cat vs a excavator and skid steer - you ain’t a farmer or rancher if you don’t have one of those already .
Guess I'll just keep my Honda Rancher 420 .
If don't find the time to use it , no big deal . Lol.
I'm going to buy a full loaded 2024 model in 2032.😁
A Chevy Impala is $30,000 and a Lambo is $334,000. There isn't another SXS on the market with the fit finish and quality of the new Ranger XD. I looked at a couple last Friday, nicest unit I've ever seen, kinda pricey, but they'll sell like crazy. People aren't having any issues spending $$$ right now, that's why the shit is priced the way it is. You need to find the right dealer and prices will be much lower than list 😉.
Prices USED to be lower to list, and might be coming back down. Powersports have always been a lot closer to MSRP than Automobiles. Also, a Lambo and Malibu have entirely different use cases. Unless you wanna argue "Not-uh, they are both to get from point a to point b." The Polaris is claiming to do Side by Side things better than other side by sides. It is not going to do them twice as better for twice the money. It just isn't.
Honda talon if you are the coolest on the block 😂😂😂 c’mon.
Agreed! Talons are where its at!!
Ya for that price would buy good used pickup i just stick with my 2014 Honda pioneer 700-4
I have a 2023 700-4. I love it! Also have a rusty ‘99 Silverado that doesn’t owe me a dime!
I was never a tool cat guy, but I went to my Polaris dealer and saw what they wanted for an XD1500. Can I afford it? Yes. And have I spent stupid money on stuff before? Hell yes, I have. But this, even for me, is IDIOTIC. All it did was push me towards a Tool Cat which I thought were too expensive, but look like a bargain now.. I have a L6060 Kubota loaded up and a 2018 Ranger 1000 XP loaded to the gills now. Thought I'd upgrade the Ranger this year like I've done for the last 3 I bought. NOPE, not this round Polaris!
Your getting to the price where you could buy like a rzr and a mule… those two will do everything the XD does…better, and cost less…
After riding around a hisun china machine awhile, they arent junk… like, in 2008 if they were releasing the 2020 model, the ranger is in trouble… that being said… the ranger hasnt came THAT FAR since then, and the cheap models are catching up… no way does the cost add up for what you recieve…
China brands are going to have full “northstar” type models for 16k in 3 years… mark my word.. (plus inflation i guess.. LOL)
Agree. I love the “Two is one, one is none” mentality. I’d get a Tacoma and a dirt bike for the same money!
Absolutely 💯 agree!! Polaris is junk anyway! I’ll never own another!! Can Defender is way more quality!!!
Don't have any personal experience with CanAm. Don't love the CVTs, but have only heard good things.
You are wrong, a lot customers want it.......already all sold
I've had the same feeling, especially the new XD RZR that has a fully enclosed cab and storage area $40K Polaris is fishing for the people with money that have to be cool all the time.
I am fine being a nerd and less flashy with my tried-and-true Honda!
We are on our second Ranger 570 strictly used for farm work. Both have been money pits. Never again.
I have a buddy who has had decent luck with a 570, but I am happy with the Honda 700.
Pay 50k and you’re hoping to god to get 25000 miles out of it before it’s clapped! I got 9000 miles on xp1000 all I do is town drive it and I’m hoping to get 25k miles
Got that right.
This utv is awesome! Pricing is beyond stupid and I think your funny narrating is spot on.
For the price of this you can buy a Jeep that can do way more, plus last more miles and be road legal.
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There’s a ass for every seat. At the end of the day people over pay for there toys or hobbies. Look at the price of a bass boat! If i had a ranch and wanted the best latest and greatest machine I would buy it! I myself have a camp just for riding ATVs and own a Kawasaki KRX 1000 and love it! I have over 30k in it with accessories. Always remember this, there is nothing that will compare to a SXS as far as capability, ride quality, fun factor, for what they are intended. People often say Incould buy a jeep for that price! Yeah buy it, but it can’t follow or compare to my KRX, sorry. But yeah I get it man, they are very expensive!
Get your point.. and agree. I own a (much cheaper) side-by-side that I love! My question is... what can the XD do that your KRX can't? If you come up with a good answer or two... then ask yourself if the XD could do it two times better. Buyers are essentially paying twice what you have in that Kawa.
30k to 44k
I’ll stick with my
2021 ranger 1000 premium
I have the money but you are absolutely correct that this machine is way overpriced and under delivers. Wait til the competition catches up and ya know my 1000.00 ford Ranger sure looks good right now out on my farm.....just sayin
I couldn't have said it better myself. I paid $6,500 for a 99 Silverado 4x4 about 8 years ago. Might be worth $3,500 bucks now. Amazing farm truck. Does 95% of what a 60k golfcart will do... a lot of those tasks it does better!
I totally agree. What a joke.
If you can’t afford it. Don’t buy it.
Wow. THIS is amazing insight.