What??? NO Preload??? Ford F150 6.2 4x4
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- PT1: Complete 4wd Rebuild! Ford F150 6.2 4x4 Custom
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Ten hours of work in a one hour video..."If it's not on video, it didn't happen!"
2:26 - Caffeine kicks in.
Hello from Canada (under tyranny!)
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jealous nothing is ever rusted beyond recognition!
Ray,
Did she get that 10mm back yet?
Much love from Japan
If it's not on video you can't prove I didn't do it!
That explains the later posting
As a fellow patriotic American and former Boy Scout, I am glad to see that you know there is a proper way to "retire" a flag. You're a good man, Ra-Ray...
completely agree
As a Ford Tech, I feel your pain. These differentials require a case spreader and adapters. That's what those wider holes are.
Thanks for what you said about the flag, Ray. As a military vet, I wish more people knew and understood how to properly dispose of a flag that is damaged beyond repair. Most people wouldn't care about a flag, but I'm glad you still do, Ray. Thank you.
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Don't mean to afend you sir but can u explain how to properly dispose of a flag please as I do not know the process and not from us but I have a 2 flag from my home land and I won't put them in the bin as I find it very disrespectful to do so
Just toss it the flag doesnt mean anything anymore
hell might as well fly an Israeli flag for what its worth
@@mervynhogan7829 : In the US, a military veteran or active service member will fold the flag a certain way, where it ends up in a triangle.
After doing so, most disposals are done with the national anthem playing, after which the flag is either respectfully buried or burned (I am unsure of what the process is to burn a flag).
At no point is the flag to be treated with disrespect. Additionally, for military members during any ceremony involving a color guard, protocol states that any member not involved with the color guard salute. Members of the color guard also are required to not let the flag touch the ground.
If I may ask, what country have you come from? And I honestly appreciate your inquiry as how to dispose of a flag. You definitely have not offended me, lol. And in point of fact, I'm more than happy to help.
You burn it in a appropriate way. I had to burn a flag I did that by asking a veteran he said burn it in a respectful manner. He taught me how to fold it but it was a small flag. Tiny triangle.
@@isaiahwelch8066 from Republic of Ireland have 2 flags one from when I was a young boy and one my grandad gave me be4 he passed away there both in bad shape there both folded and stored in attic in a wooden box was told by my grandad to never bin a country flag ever
If you're going to keep doing these rear ends you should invest in a pinion depth tool kit. The pinion depth is stamped on the face of the new pinion, this way you can set the proper depth without having to put the carrier in, once the pinion is set up with the right shims then you can put the carrier in and adjust the back lash. It's a lot easier this way.
yes..
I think you can see 2.6 something on the pinion rear. That measures to the centerline of the axle in the carrier. When the gears are cut that is the mill setting. I am sure that Gm or Ford doesn’t have to assemble more than once or run in camshafts for 20 minutes per engine ha ha.
@@graymodeler he should be just changing parts instead of rebuilding without tools.
@@forgetfulme1719 agreed
@@jimi_hendrix4209 ditto
I'm no pro so take this with a grain of salt. I take the old bearing off and get the original shim to use the thickness for a good starting point for pinion depth. then take the old bearing with a die grinder to the ID of the bearing so I can slip the bearing on and off easy to make my adjustments. then use a pinion death gauge to set the depth. once i have it where I want it, I put the new bearing on and crush the sleeve. But it looks like how you do it is working so keep doing it your way just giving you some options.
And lets not forget that after a day doing all the work you then go home to edit and upload plus time with your better half and the little one's...... 100% you are amazing.
You make the best UA-cam Videos ever 😊👍
Wow, thanks! I try!
Nah....there's a new one named Wife Unit that's waaay better.
@@ericwalstrand3512 That's a good channel, but the husband on that one is a real jerk! 😁
Great persistence and courage in the face of a nasty job. Well done Rainman.
2 kids just out of diapers, he knows nasty.
When will people stop buying ford. wow
The two blind holes in the gasket face are for a case spreader, it facilitates removal & installation with proper preload.
I'm getting concerned Ray. Don't burn out on us. A video a day is too much, and the family needs you more than we do. I think we all just wan to see you suceed, and e happy in life. Thanks Ray, Wife Unit, and little X-File girl. LOL
it was a big job, im sure he made a killing off of just this truck. i doubt he'll do it again any time soon
Lol x file girl, I laughed when I read that.
I think the anomaly is the new doodly doo.
The funnest resume video Ray has ever done. The ability of Ray to describe what he is doing while doing it and say what is next while grabbing parts and no bad words as far as we know says to me ray enjoys what he is doing. It's not a job if your working for your self and like what your doing. I see alot more quality videos in Rays and our future, as long as he does not get burnt out.
He doesn't work for himself he works for his customers.
Thank you for respecting our flag, Ray. This disabled veteran salutes you.
Your a legend Ray The Way Your got the Patience Too Film and Work at the Same Time ,as Well as Educate The Public"s Out there , Im POSITIVE People"s Appreciate it , I know I Do Well done
It has something to do with the monthly youtube check he receives😎
I'm not a mechanic, but I enjoy watching your videos and learning. It's especially helpful to learn about the right tool for the job. I do a lot of work on my boat where space is at a premium and the salt water locks everything up and eats away everything. You have helped me embrace the value of patience, persistence, and a sense of humor while working on knuckle busting jobs in tight quarters. Thanks Ray!
I wouldn't want to keep doing those jobs without the proper tools. Pinion depth gauge, case spreader when needed, dial indicators and setup bearings make gear swaps so much easier and faster.
"I love my job so much, I'll do the same thing over and over and over again..."
Practice makes perfect.
or as the Pipe Major says 'perfect practice makes perfect"...Slainte!
31:06
An afternoon entertainment, Thanks Ray. it's a snow day in Wauconda.
The beauty of Snap-on ratchets is that they have a valid lifetime warranty. Those 1/2” will break when you try hard enough. there is a small rebuild kit for the gear set, and if you bend the handle or head they replace them.
That’s the way it used to be done, I sure hope its still is the way they operate. I’ve got some that are 60+ years old, Three generations, they look very used, and work like new.
Those 2 machined holes around where the gasket surfaces are for a case spreader and if you're not using one on an aluminum differential you're never gonna get your Carrier preload right (profitably/quickly)
I have the spreader and the adapters. Have adapters for camaro too.
@Marc A The best tool I made was it goes on a long extension eclipse the spider shaft and use that to check the preload with an inch pound dial pork gauge meter wrench click... And real timpkins or NSK bearins
@Ray (and others) - the problem with forehead-mounted cams are that they sit significantly higher than your eyeline. This means that when you're looking at something and working with it closely, the object/work area is below the camera's field of view. This can me mitigated for closeup work by tilting the camera so that it's looking more "down & close" than "across a crowded room". Alternatively, a pencil cam that mounts on the side of your head and sits in the same plane as your eye-line will capture everything that you're looking at.
Ray the reason there is so much preload on the case bearings is because we stretch the carrier during assembly
I was thinking about how tight those diffs were to start with. Aluminium has a higher thermal expansion ratio than steel, so when assembled 'cold' it would be very tight, but will loosen up as the diff heats up & the case expands more than the gears inside.
(In my old job we had bearings that went into an alloy housing. To remove then we'd put the assembly in an oven. While it was heating up the new bearing went into the freezer on the insertion tool. Once hot we'd pull the assembly & extract the old bearing, then insert the cold new bearing & let them return to room temp to secure the new bearing.)
You always do a good job Ray that's why you are getting customers and we your loyal followers will always be here and be happy that you are taking us on your journey.
You have been busy Ray. You and the Wife are a great team making stuff happen
Over and over and over again
The ultimate test of patience 👌 🙌
Never, ever, never? But what about when he comes back in two weeks from now and says, “Ray, I didn’t realize the difference those new gears made. My wife unit doesn’t like them. Can we put a different ratio in?” 😂
Huge props for mentioning Old Glory, Ray. It truly means a lot that you're going to give her the proper disposal and respect she deserves.
If you haven't done so already. Take the bolt out of steering shaft separate shaft. Go through front of truck and use and extension and remove the bolt. That's how the front diff comes out
I did the hard way ig 🤣
Nothing like learning how to do your job the hardest way,instead of reading the instructions on the right way first.
I loved the dramatic music as front gears were being installed into the housing 😂
I wouldn't have taken the job on. The mental cost of a comeback is too high. You're a brave man Ray !
it will come back, parts already damaged 8x in and out.
😂😂😂 “devil went down to Jamaica” that’s a great song even if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea
Thank you for the proper disposal of the American flag.
Someone really loves this truck.
I strongly suggest getting a manual that shows you the proper set-up procedures for each type of differential. They sell manuals that include all in one.
“Keep The Wolves Away”, excellent song!
Hey Ray, great job. Been watching your videos for a while and I have to say that you have encouraged me to bring life back to my 86 ford Bronco (full size). It's been sitting for almost 25 years. I know lots of details I have to go through. Thank you for the courage to tackle it. You really have given alot of knowledge to your viewers. Thanks for sharing. God bless you. Have a great day and be safe.
I love the ways you come up with for the cam don't stop
Hey Ray, I admire your perseverance on this job. It's a job I wouldn't have tackled myself let alone pay someone to do it for me. I'm an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it kinda guy." I bet the truck will really launch with the new gear ratio. I'm sure your customer will be quite pleased. Cheers!
Great choice with the Eaton limited slip differential. I used to work for them in South Bend Indiana.
You need a diff housing spreader for that job Ray. Gear sets in ally housings need to be setup with more pre-load due to the housing expanding more than the gear set when they get hot.
advice will fall on deaf ears
Just as an example aluminum expands & contracts twice as much as steel.
I understand that you are doing this for your viewers. There is another part of me that thinks you are also doing it for that customer. That person has put a significant amount of money in that truck from what I've seen. That person came to you because they thought you are the best. Good job. No pun intended.
You are correct on all points. And the results after the work proves the decision was correct. I cant be any happier! And as Ray said in the last vid.. “the theme for this truck is if it comes off…it gets upgraded”. Plus, when it was taken to Ray it was at 163k+ miles. Plus, if you go thru all the expense to change one part, you might as well do it all…thus why both axles were fully rebuilt. They were still functioning but now they are better
@@redbo1519 just out of curiosity how much did this cost? im guessing it was probly a grand or more just in parts, but what about labor? i know good work doesnt come cheap
@@bradhaines3142 the parts were not cheap and you can’t buy most of it as cheap as I did. I have been collecting parts for over a year. That’s why I was able to do so much at once. It is also why that one wrong bearing was such a huge deal at first. Ray saved the day by finding that quality replacement bearing as fast as he did.
As for the labor, inside with Ray and won’t quote prices. But I will tell you that this job calls for 23 labor hrs per the book. As you can tell, book wasn’t far off.
I never did a 4x4 but I did way too many difs for competition. Watching you do these difs gave me a queasy feal in my gut reminding me of those days, and days, and days using a dial indicator and the "infamous" Prussian blue dye to set the gears. That d...n dye was a real bear to work with and especially to clean it up. I wonder if any of your viewers remember that dye, or heaven forbid, are still using it. Your paint seems a huge improvement
I'm a retired machinist & we used Prussian blue to check tapers when grinding. It's still used today.
@@ManCaveMachining can make quite the mess, eh?
@@Grantthetruthteller Especially when your coworkers smear it on the underside of the machine's handles.
@@ManCaveMachining nasty co-workers !!!!!!!
thank you Ray,that was certainly a difficult task but dealt with very nicely,have a great day and see you in the next one,👍👍
That was a pretty clean truck underneath, very nice
I love the way Ray calls nuts-bolts and bolts-nuts! 😃
Practice makes perfect. That is what I thought about the videos you make Ray. Just long enough and filled with quality
content!
Time for coffee, Ray, and relaxation. Did two Kia Soul automatic transmissions yesterday. Arms are sore.
Excellent work Ray! I'm sure you are happy it all turned out well!
"It will be properly disposed of." Good on you Ray.
As much differential work you have been doing, it would be helpful if you invested in a case spreader to deal with the carrier bearing preload. I find spreading a case 0.010" is just about perfect for preload.
If you drop the cross member out behind the front axle,you would not have to remove steering tack.
I work at the axle plant an we can change out the assembly in less than 45 minutes.
I really appreciate the 4k HDR!
Creed
With arms wide open
Best song.
Always sang this to wife and my daughter.
Sitting in Ray's busy workshop on Sunday morning, having breakfast. 🤣
Good afternoon, Ray. This is another fantastic video.
Good to see this video came out great awesome job. I likes being able to see preload being set and gear pattern being set as well.😀
We are all learning. Never put yourself down when you're learning. Next time you'll know exactly what to do. Love your videos.
Mistakes ARE the learning process.
Without Mistakes, you're not learning anything, you're just doing the job.
It's really sad that over the last 60 years children have been being brainwashed that mistakes are bad.
At least before you learn the right way they aren't.
Now if you keep making the same mistake over and over again. That could mean you don't have the ability to learn. It's also something very rare, not being able to learn.
Think of it this way.
You were born KNOWING NOTHING.
Then think of all the mistakes you've made in the process of becoming you today.
Most people would realize how good they've done. It's almost like a miracle.
Now, how much of everything you know, you wouldn't
If you were afraid to make any mistakes from day one.
This is the problem perfectionists have.
Perfect or nothing.
So to guarantee not to make any mistakes. Most do nothing they aren't already good at.
Or guaranteed failure through not trying.
@@thoughtthinker9300 my wife's grandfather said it right. "It's better to try and fail than to never try and never fail". Just think of where we as a society would be if nobody ever tried something new. I let my kids know that they can be whatever they want to be. They just have to set their minds to do whatever it takes to get them there. Too many people put you down for trying and falling short of your goals. I think it's time for some encouragement instead of put downs. I like your comments.
@@setfreeatlast7777 Your Grandfather sounds like he know what he was talking about.
And good job keeping that message alive and well.
This is a sentiment all schools and all people need to teach everyone.
And we'll all save this plant yet. One mind at a time
I do like the longer format.
put video speed on 2x
Me too. 30-45 min is perfect.
45 Minutes is a good time !
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@@tomasrosalesr angel #?
Very interesting video. I feel for you on setting up the front diff. Done many myself. The difficult ones are the ones you try and store in the back of the memory storage. You did good. No noises!! You took your time and the end product showed. Nice thing about modern vehicles, calibrating the speedo for the gear change is much less of an ordeal, as you said. Pleasure watching you work.
Thank you for your care of the Flag too.
Ray - I knew of a transmission rebuild guy that used, believe it or not, a mortician's autopsy table. It's perfect for transmission disassembly. All the fluid that runs off runs into gutters along the sides and into a container.
Thank you Rainman Ray for using my ideal for your new name of your shop that I suggested for you, sir. I'm so happy for you getting your own shop and being your own boss. Keep up the great work that you and the wife unit has been doing. Awesome sauce! Love what your doing to the shop and wrecker service, too! Keep your head up high! Don't give up. Love your wife's videos and yours, too!
Need a case spreader if you're going to do a bunch of these.
Was anyone else a little disappointed that Ray said “bearings here, bearings there, bearings on the inside”. That was a huge missed Dad/Ray joke opportunity to say “bearings everywhere”. Still good stuff Ray. Nice to see people making content without a bunch of foul language or bleeps all over the place and still having fun.
Finally it’s here and I’m number one I’ve been waiting all morning lol on with the show ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Great video, keep going. I started my channel from scratch uploading what I enjoyed, and now I am almost at 10k subs.
Rolling nice and smooth with that new gear set speedometer definitely needs to be re calibrated lol 80mph when your doing 50 but thats to be expected nice work @Rainman Ray's Repairs
Yes, how are u going to recalibrate different gear ratio, speed sensors at the transfer case
@@olol3765 you re calibrate it electronically through the Speedometer it runs on the Ecm and tcm network
I have a Mustang rear diff to set up. Any time a video such as this comes around, I watch it. Again, I learned something new. Thank you, Ray.
I was starting to worry something was wrong! ❤
Most gear sets have numbers on them giving the proper offsets from center line, one time assembly. Just saying, George from Indiana
That was an awesome gear swap on both differentials. Keep up the good work.
Nice to see that you will depose of our beautiful colors at your local VFW or Legion Posts.
I'm sure you know this but they have differential case spreaders to ease the differential removal/install. Not too expensive especially if you do this type of work a lot.
Yes, and there were 2 nice holes in the differential face to accept the spreader pins.
@@desotosky1372 those for 2 pry bars.
I would at least spring for a pinion depth gauge and maybe the case spreader. (tools are tax deductible)
at the end of the day, that "Deductible" ain't worth crap....
next time will be 4x , needs save $ for Brakekleen, will use 2 bigger pry bars.
With the amount of brake clean you use you must get it waaaay cheaper than I can. Stuff's gotten way spensive Lucy.
He orders it in bulk, yes. On top of that, an entire can of brake clean, even two, for an entire job that costs hundreds of dollars? Makes it negligible.
He has also mentioned that subscribers send him cases of the stuff. I'm sure that helps too.
It keeps him from drinking all day 😎
He also gets that wonderful mechanic's discount.
That makes everything he does cheaper on his end.
Although it's true. He says many nice people send it to him. It's a nice was of feeling involved, if you can afford it.
@@williameldridge9382 ohhh right so that’s your justification is it for destroying the environment with pollution that little bit more by excessively wasting it ? That’s a over usage of that product
Ray, there is a tool called 'case spreader' to spread the case a few thou to facilitate the insertion of the crown gear with the factory shims. You still have to do a 'loaded' pattern check between the crown and pinion. Take care. Cheers
So, is he bringing it back to you after its 500 mile break in period so you can change fluids and check wear patterns? I'd love to hear you take it apart again.
You only need to worry about the rear differential. The front differential won’t see 500 miles in the trucks history unless the hubs are malfunctioning.
The shear amount of work that he just did in 3 days is nuts. It’s a 3 day job with 2 guys. Great work.
Good Saturday afternoon to you Raymond👋🏻 from Chicago, ☃️well I know where to invest my tax refund in stock in brake clean🤑😲🤣 BROTHER!👍
35:05 I had to pay for a flag from a Goodwill 'last chance' store where all the unsold stuff from area stores goes before they cart it off to the dump. Even explained to the gal that I was just going to dispose of it properly. That really irritated me.
I recently replaced the alternator in my Honda Odyssey, and I have to ask: how is your back? Do you stay hunched over for a few days after a job like that?
Absolutely a pain in the back and neck.
i just did my alternator and battery and and battery cable terminals and lugs.....
YES.!!!!! OUCH.!!!!!!
I do that type of work. I can proudly say I am a reliable protractor.
I'm Old so I most certainly have after Affects when doing Bend Over Work...
@@351cleavland geometry 🤣😂😂😅
There's a reason that they invented the pinion depth setting tool! Unfortunately they are rarely seen out in the real world, even at dealerships.
The definition of insanity doing the same thing over again and expecting different results
That would be many of the subs looking for a vid before sunrise and still waiting all day.
Your comment explains the definition of insanity ( doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results that is the definition of insanity )😂 ✝️✝️✝️🇺🇸🤠
Albert Einstein said that.
@@mred8002 props to Albert
16:33 Rotating the pinion will often eject the carrier from the bearing mounts.
Oh yeah, mounting a case spreader on the rear mouth of the diff case and spread the thing about 0.0005" to 0.001"... Reading the manual helps, also, I did not see you set the bearing preload on the rear diff after torquing in the crush sleeve.
9:36: “…my lubricant for the rear end; I’m gonna need that later!” 😮🤣
you have a trans table if you want to make it out of all that restaurant equipment in the opened space you made .Like if you can make a blow gun look like an AR 15 then a trans table is a piece of cake
Hell of a job, great work as always. Makin it look easy.
0:36 someone has good taste. Roadactive suspension on the springs. Very nice. And many other goodies.
I know from experience that if you don’t properly torque those wheel hub bearings it effects their longevity.
Alright!! Wasn't expecting a video this late in the afternoon.
But.......... Here we are!
🤷♂️😎👃
Glad see you using top of line Timken bearing best there are
Good afternoon Ray. An afternoon delight of a video.
Believe it or not a coroner's autopsy table is a very good trans service table.
... And when you see blood coming out you'll know you've been working too hard.
@@heckelphon 😅😂
“That’s my lubricant for the rear end” come out so wrong 🤣🤣
Ever consider making a portable winch? You could set it on a something with wheels and heavy. Thread the nylon line around things above what you want to lift. You know there's tons of places under the vehicle you can hang it on, then just lift. After buying my 1 ton engine hoist, I made a hoist and I think it was the best thing since sliced bread.
You mentioned you might stay away from jobs like this in the future? You mentioned this was the first time you've seen ICON suspension components?
My man! I'd venture to say get MORE in the world of the high end components and working on the MASSIVE 4x4 world full of people that WILL ALWAYS pay premium prices to have premium components worked on by you, a PREMIUM tech.
Man, take all the serious 4x4 jobs you can, that would really help shop growth, and all of us here would love to see more technical/more vids we haven't seen 300 times already!
Grats on the shop, and whatever you do, you have fans for life.
Rant over. (text gravity).
Whatever you said at 10:02 reminded me of when you would ask "Peeetaaah" for help. I hope he's doing well.
I’m Eating popcorn and now have brake clean buzz 😎 i’ve been watching a while and you’ve gotten really good at talking to yourself
Ray that’s the best yet the use of the head makes huge sense it keep both use of both HAND think safe work smarter
My brother races stock cars on Vancouver Island and he does almost everything including rebuilding motors but he has a guy he takes the differential to to get set up he says the guy has everything all the tools and stands to hold everything every type of shim and he's very reasonable. Add oil and there always perfect.