Every time I hear Leffen complaining about how broken Yoshi is, it just fills me with joy that aMSa single-handedly made Yoshi a viable character to play as
Leffen is the king of "not my fault i lost, it was the game's fault, not your skill" also anyone that gets angry about yoshi doing well is just pouting that they followed the meta instead of developing their own (to be fair, with slippi it is much faster to develop these days)
The funniest thing other than leffen getting his ass handed to him by aMSa, is that he got destroyed by someone who trained melee while having a full time job.
if leffen ever tries to complain about yoshi, and his fanboys start to spread it, just refute them with these 6 words: "yoshi can't jump out of shield".
Thank goodness for people like aMSa who are so good at their unconventional characters that they single-handedly change the meta of this 2 decade-old game
@@TheCagedK Worse definitely, Fox and Falco are broken ass fighting game characters. Shine is an abomination. The question should be is Link could enough to win anyways etc.
@@ReavenM1911A1 What makes characters not top tier is usually very simple things like having a grab that's super easy to punish. A melee version that changed the least amount of stuff to only a reasonable enough degree that it achieves some kind of relative balance would be pretty cool imo. Not like Project M. That is way too much.
Watching leffen getting his ass handed to him never gets old,especially by yoshi and puff as he loves to john about them,specifically the latter, all the time
@@QuantemDeconstructor he johns about every match up he loses,but the puff one in particular seems to piss him off the most cuz he went on so many twitter tirades and directed many of his fanboys to shit on hungrybox because of it
@_-M-_ no worries dude we all learn every day. Apm isn't melee specific! It simply means "actions per minute", which references how many button presses/movements are done.
Man I love watching leffen cause I feel like any moment he's gonna give an entire Class Speech on why this move should be removed or why yoshi is the most broken character for the meta
Yoshi/aMSa is the new hotness in a 21-year old title, I don't blame them. It is annoying that they still mix up the terminology on some of Yoshi's defensive options though.
Can we mod it? It'd be one of those minimal fighters like dive kick or footsies. 5 stock, 300% damage, FD, and the only moves that works are Fox up smash and maybe shield.
@@bluyuAs a soloist, sure. In an ensemble? Frame perfect is about right. However, musical performance and competitive Smash are entirely different beasts, as you don't need to have reflexes and ranging skills as a pianist or rigid and consistent timings for the same five minutes a hundred times over as a smash player.
@@fluffydogloaf I dont even think it is optimal.. just the movements are so fucking nuts when youve played the game casually. All the little tricks to make those easily predictable movements precise and fast.
I have never watched these tournaments, are people always like that when they win? I have seen a video and amsa is always happy and shaking hadas but the guy who lost here immediatly left and didnt say a word.
@@Manimanocas This is Leffen we're talking about after all... the guy who helped spread the Smash community allegations (which, by the way, ended up being total fabrications) and still ended up being worshipped by the Smash community.
@@samuelbrown1283If I'm remembering right, FTX was the crypto-currency exchange company run by Sam Bankman-Fried, the guy who ended up going to prison for stealing fuck-tons of money from people
Clearly he have plenty matchup knowledge, when on the contrary, there's literally no other top level yoshi player and of course amsa is really talented
Is like in Tekken, with Rangchu using Panda, absolutely nobody has great match up knowledge about playing against Panda; thankfully amsa also has the technique and talent to make these matches so amazing to watch.
Been an amsa fan for years glad he’s finally getting the attention he deserves. What’s fuckin dumb is people spouting bs about how yoshi was secretly top tier. No. Idk if it’s just a meme but if it isn’t: a good ass player whooped your ass with skill and you don’t know the match up because you and every one else are too busy tier whoring to know any matchups that aren’t A tier or higher. Basically, if it isn’t fox you don’t need to know really cause nobody doesn’t play fox. That’s what happened here.
@@mfbandit7930 And Hbox says Puff is only like 5th or 6th best character even though everyone else agrees top 3. I guess we can't argue it, Hbox is automatically right because you don't know better than him
The fact that they are even referred to as gods is goofy in itself. They are super good at a game that someone else made...cool. "God" is an over-exaggeration lol
@@foyo5497 I mean, it’s a figure of speech…? It’s a cultural term in the melee community, the same way we refer to someone being “insanely good” at a game, we call them a god at it because we mean it figuratively and more so objectively, not literally being a god? It’s just a replacement of a word with slang, not really an over exaggeration based on its usual context.
@@foyo5497 They were the 5 greatest players at one point in the game, the skill gap between them and other players was so vast that the 6th best player could barely take stocks off them. That's why they got that title.
@@EdDevil thats not even remotely true, there were dozens of players who were close enough in skill level to consistently take games off them, and also several players who even took sets. They were just distinct because they were the only 5 players who were winning majors and all had at least 1 set win on the other 4, and it was a huge cornerstone to be the first person to take a set off all 5. Hax and Wobbles even came close by beating 4/5 of them, Leffen was the first to beat all 5 though. It was always a dumb title and I remember m2k complaining about it back in the day.
IKR, i'm so proud of him! I still remember when he would turn to Toph for help and when Slime said he wanted to stay abreast of the news, aMSa said "breasts on the news?" XD
@@GuyN0ir I said what I said lol. Although it’s fun to laugh at leffen being a clown, I think melee is better off dead with all the other 20 year old games that aged like milk
@@Heavymetalthunda3 I personally think longer lifespans for competitive games is a good thing. Melee isn't the only one where the meta kept evolving far into the game's lifespan.
@@GuyN0ir the game and the community are both awful lol. It’s also holding back any future smash titles because of stupid dickheads like leffen who spend the entire month after the game comes out crying about how melee is better because the new game is different. How is the meta evolving? one guy won with yoshi against someone infamous for not doing his homework and making excuses when he loses because he’s not as good as he thinks he is. That’s not meta evolution that’s one guy winning with yoshi lol. even if the meta is “still evolving,” the game is outdated and plays like shit compared to literally anything made in the last 10 years. Like I said, I think it’s better off being fondly remembered than being forcibly kept alive by boomers who don’t like change keeping it hooked up to life support
You are being reductive. Its like saying a volkswagen beetle is not fast because not enough people drive them Like I read somewhere, Yoshi has a high skill ceiling. What that means is that when you play to his strengths you can qualify for competitive setplay There are few people who are making too 8's with Yoshi because they are not confident in his kit. If AMSa's success was random, then you could attribute it to luck or riding the wave, but because he is consistent with the handling of the character you must put respect on Yoshi What people like you like to do is gather all of your favorite toys and play army with them. You are conditioned by dominant strategy to bet on the merits that reflect your likeness. In other words, that which is most like you should win, that which is confusing to you should lose In this case you fail to appreciate that their are levels to chess. Characters that have a set skill floor are consistently facing each other. Sometimes Marth is on top, sometime its Sheik, sometimes its Peach, and sometimes Puff By your own rhetoric, only the players make them good. What I'm saying is that because they are always in a round round robin as the proving ground, the value of those choices is variable. Its NOT always Marth or C Falcon, but they have been proven as success because of how _their_ kit is embellished by the meta For that reason you get players who are predisposed to certain habits because they believe that rote memorization is the path to proving themselves. I just wonder how your argument stands when aMSa is essentially proving the character through both hard work and talent
We're really living in an amazing era for melee. To see someone do so amazingly well, and with a character that literally NOBODY else in the scene can pull off. It's like something out of an anime.
Is this one of those situations where someone sticks around in a community even when the majority of people don't like him? That's what it seems like ngl
Hey guys I really think we need a jump limit on Yoshi. The super armor he gets from just pressing jump is too strong, I cant win against it and I dont want to get any better. If the rules dont change I wont be competing in melee next year.
your life is something! you serve select purposes! you should acknowledge yourself now! and continue sharing oxygen that continues to be generated in this blue trapped bubble, because who really knows what we're here for? be aware of yourself. i mean that with a 100%. with a 1000%
Amsa who has grinded for years finally getting wins and positive recognition. I admit I'm not the biggest fan of him... I sort of wrote him off as that guy who was good at yoshi who would play well but be a middle of the pack andy. But he's shown up this year. I got to give him props. I hate it when someone plays a character outside the Marth/Falco/Fox meta and performs well suddenly people wanna call the character a tier 0 or limit its abilities that the person playing has had to optimize to play against top tiers. They aren't broken! Other people are just too focused on the top they can't see the threats from the bottom.
Losing in Smash is the worst. It's not that you lost to some skilled player or the match up that gets people, it's that you lose to the goofiest looking characters ever made. Teenage Mutant Space Pirate losing to Barney the Dinosaur XD. On a side note, I'm glad Leffen lost. Horrible, horrible human being
tier list placement doesn't matter... fox-yoshi is BAD for yoshi. aMSa could genuinely be the best player in the world the way he routinely beats foxes.
@@TimothyGod it doesnt necessarily matter in reference to specific matchups. characters can be worse overall but have playable or outright better matchups against higher-tier characters, such as ICs-sheik, marth-fox (debatable, most people agree fox is the best character), and famously YL-puff (though thats a little antiquated and hasnt been studied).
It truly is time for Leffen to leave the smash scene. He has always been problematic, and now he is washed and the only thing keeping him relevant is his large twitter following and that he causes a scene every time someone wipes the floor with him.
Every time I hear Leffen complaining about how broken Yoshi is, it just fills me with joy that aMSa single-handedly made Yoshi a viable character to play as
Sooooo true
I don’t even play smash, but it’s so cool that a game this old is still having characters go up in tier purely by player skill
Leffen is the king of "not my fault i lost, it was the game's fault, not your skill"
also anyone that gets angry about yoshi doing well is just pouting that they followed the meta instead of developing their own (to be fair, with slippi it is much faster to develop these days)
Even funnier when Leffen used to play Yoshi way back when
@wudly9195 Yoshi is legitimately amazing - it's just that it has very unique tools that only aMSa developed
The most down to earth and happy player vs the most egotistical thorn of this community. Glad too see they good guys still shine
“I will defeat you with the power of friendship! (And this Yoshi I found)”
- aMSa
@@drunkengibberish1143people don’t know that that’s an actual quote from amsa
@@MonumentalDongwait thats amazing
@@sythrus i lied lol got ur ass
@@MonumentalDongMenace
The funniest thing other than leffen getting his ass handed to him by aMSa, is that he got destroyed by someone who trained melee while having a full time job.
True XDDD
A full time job in JAPAN too
but don't you know? streaming is infinitely harder than any entry level job, as the almighty leffen himself has experienced and decreed LMFAO
@@blujay1294 I still get mad over that comment, damn
Damn, he’s been working a 9 to 5, and is still on that train? No shame in honest work. Mad respect to Amsa.
Leffen: yeah we should put a super armor limit and eggs banned.
*knockback reduction armor
It's funny because the game kinda already has a super armor limit built in, with how past 125(?) percent, super armor starts breaking really easily
Truly the lebron james of ssbm
@@carlos41519 Bro what?
@@aronianspigonian8589 I guess they're talking about how Lebron James is notorious for crying about things, and that Leffen is like that
Leffen constantly proving his name isn't the only L he holds.
💀💀💀
all leffen is, is an effen L 🤣
Can't spell Leffen without 2 Fs and an L
This means that Leffen is always effen with people
if leffen ever tries to complain about yoshi, and his fanboys start to spread it, just refute them with these 6 words: "yoshi can't jump out of shield".
"We need an egg limit"
@@Peter-q1p7t What, in 2012?
@@Peter-q1p7t after what he did and how he responded to Zer0. I wouldn't put it past him.
@@Peter-q1p7t
Leffen? Being a hypocrite? _no waaaay!_
@@IPromiseTomorrow how did he respond to zer0? been outta the scene for years and can't remember shit lol
Thank goodness for people like aMSa who are so good at their unconventional characters that they single-handedly change the meta of this 2 decade-old game
The unconventional ones are the strongest characters
@@justacoolguy336 yea idk dude, link is definitely worse than fox
@@TheCagedK depends. I don't think so tho
@@TheCagedK Worse definitely, Fox and Falco are broken ass fighting game characters. Shine is an abomination. The question should be is Link could enough to win anyways etc.
@@ReavenM1911A1 What makes characters not top tier is usually very simple things like having a grab that's super easy to punish. A melee version that changed the least amount of stuff to only a reasonable enough degree that it achieves some kind of relative balance would be pretty cool imo. Not like Project M. That is way too much.
4:58
"Dude it is such a miserable feeling when he's throwing the eggs at you. You're just in the omelet."
10/10 commentary
"Super armor is unfair. Yoshi needs to start at 100% so his super armor breaks every time."
Leffen, probably
“Yoshi is a cheesy character, he isn’t honest.” Leffen, probably
@@MantaRaydiated "When a bunch of people complained about me being a shitty person they were all lying". Leffen, on record.
A combo of my two favorite things: watching aMSa play Yoshi and watching Leffen eat shit.
Watching leffen getting his ass handed to him never gets old,especially by yoshi and puff as he loves to john about them,specifically the latter, all the time
Doesn't he john about the Samus matchup too?
@@QuantemDeconstructor he johns about every match up he loses,but the puff one in particular seems to piss him off the most cuz he went on so many twitter tirades and directed many of his fanboys to shit on hungrybox because of it
@@GanonAutumn777 Yeah I remember before puff got as popular as she is now he johned about Samus a ton since he wasn't good at that matchup
@@QuantemDeconstructor And don’t forget Marth
Puff is annoying as hell though
I love aMSa so much he’s worked so hard and his record is insane
His yoshi is the most interesting thing I've seen in melee
Why is no one talking about how amsa reached a higher apm with YOSHI than leffen did with FOX. Jesus christ.
Yeah that´s fucking crazy. aMSa´s Yoshi moves so fast
Sorry, I don't know much about melee, what is apm?
@@_-M-_actions per minute
@@_-M-_ im guessing its attacks per minute, fox is a very fast character
@_-M-_ no worries dude we all learn every day.
Apm isn't melee specific! It simply means "actions per minute", which references how many button presses/movements are done.
leffen doesnt have enough positivity in his soulless body to listen to the smiling aMsa talk about his favorite character
Man I love watching leffen cause I feel like any moment he's gonna give an entire Class Speech on why this move should be removed or why yoshi is the most broken character for the meta
"There should be a limit to Yoshis eggs" --Leffen
It's been said bro...
@@babysealclub11 you joking 😂
@@Dragon123Sam ...
theres no way man... come on now 🙈
by that logic fox/falco lasers should be limited too, since theyre both projectiles
“Yoshi can’t jump out of shield”
Watching the most wholesome smash player wreck the most toxic one is delicious
Only problem with having Yoshi on the screen is all the commentators turn into spectators
"Yo, hehehe hey bro that's crazy, wait, damn, oh man amsa"
Yoshi/aMSa is the new hotness in a 21-year old title, I don't blame them. It is annoying that they still mix up the terminology on some of Yoshi's defensive options though.
The year is 20XX, Leffen has gotten everything but fox up smash in the game banned. Melee matches are now just foxes baiting each other into up smash.
Can we mod it? It'd be one of those minimal fighters like dive kick or footsies. 5 stock, 300% damage, FD, and the only moves that works are Fox up smash and maybe shield.
@@powerpc127 that sounds chaotic and fun
@@powerpc127 shield is actually a tier 0 move, leffen would have it banned
Crazy when a yoshi looks 2x faster than a fox. aMSa's control of Yoshi is insane.
The year is 20eggs-eggs
Noice
I swear to god he is saying "Yoshi is top 5" just to discredit aMSa's incredible skill level and his wins
@@RipleySawzen appenantly, he said marth is 6-4 against fox
@@RipleySawzen lmao he will do that
@@RipleySawzen Oh
Though after seeing aMSa at Apex, I am ready to bump Yoshi up a slot or two.
@@RipleySawzen Leffen ranked Yoshi as #8 and put the top 8 as S-tier.
"I dunno, I feel like... in the current meta... Fox is like, mid-tier"
-Leffen, probably
Everyone has to fight a Fox eventually, so they all know how to fight Fox.
The amount of tech skill Amsa has is unbelievable. I don’t know how his brain and fingers can keep up
It's like playing the piano. You eventually just do it without needing to think about it.
@@bluyu you could say its easier than piano because you have less keys haha
@@Nako3 Somewhat true. A piano doesn't need to be frame perfect to sound good though lol
@@bluyu lol yea :D
@@bluyuAs a soloist, sure. In an ensemble? Frame perfect is about right.
However, musical performance and competitive Smash are entirely different beasts, as you don't need to have reflexes and ranging skills as a pianist or rigid and consistent timings for the same five minutes a hundred times over as a smash player.
Even as a super casual Melee player I can see how crazy optimal this Yoshi play is.
Years and years of perfecting his style, it was about damn time he got this recognition
i don’t think “optimal” is a thing you can see and point at without actually playing the character bruh
@@fluffydogloafBeta comment
Yeah true alpha wins with yoshi
@@fluffydogloaf I dont even think it is optimal.. just the movements are so fucking nuts when youve played the game casually. All the little tricks to make those easily predictable movements precise and fast.
Any day Leffen loses is a good day
i just love to see leffen getting what he deserves. amsa deserves every win he gets and more.
I have never watched these tournaments, are people always like that when they win? I have seen a video and amsa is always happy and shaking hadas but the guy who lost here immediatly left and didnt say a word.
@@ManimanocasaMSa is just the most happily expressive competitive player ever tbh
@@Manimanocas They are the two extremes
@@Manimanocas This is Leffen we're talking about after all... the guy who helped spread the Smash community allegations (which, by the way, ended up being total fabrications) and still ended up being worshipped by the Smash community.
@@GlitchanBlack the turkey tom of smash LMAO
washed up leff arc
Soon to be LLLLLLeffen arc for the amount of L he gets
From Big Leff to Big L
Nah, this takes away from aMSa and Soonsay. They're cracked.
Hahaha wtf I love your music
Randomly checking my comments -> see a comment about someone liking music -> its a reply to this -> listen -> damn this shit is good
Nice music!
Limit yoshi eggs pls.
LMAO
🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚
Why? O.O
Good one 😂
@@lmoney6948 reference to leffen wanting to "limit air time" 😂
Leffen being sponsored by FTX is too perfect
Elaborate please?
@@samuelbrown1283 FTX was a crypto scam if I recall correctly
@@samuelbrown1283 bankrupt crypto trading site that went bankrupt for essentially scamming it's users and having no actual money
@@samuelbrown1283If I'm remembering right, FTX was the crypto-currency exchange company run by Sam Bankman-Fried, the guy who ended up going to prison for stealing fuck-tons of money from people
@@NobleLeader6 🤣 Way too perfect
Always feels great to see Leffen lose
It’s really satisfying seeing that little shit get bodied
Clearly he have plenty matchup knowledge, when on the contrary, there's literally no other top level yoshi player and of course amsa is really talented
aMSa does for Yoshi what Tea did for Pac-Man in Smash 4, and hell...Smash Ultimate too, but especially Smash 4 with unlimited key drop combos.
Leffen originally mained yoshi
@@peepeepoopoo7325 that says nothing lol amsa is cracked and been playing yoshi all this time so he still have waaay more experience with it
@@peepeepoopoo7325 Leffen's yoshi isnt even close to comparable to Amsa's. Amsa has redefined yoshi as a character in this game.
Is like in Tekken, with Rangchu using Panda, absolutely nobody has great match up knowledge about playing against Panda; thankfully amsa also has the technique and talent to make these matches so amazing to watch.
Been an amsa fan for years glad he’s finally getting the attention he deserves. What’s fuckin dumb is people spouting bs about how yoshi was secretly top tier. No. Idk if it’s just a meme but if it isn’t: a good ass player whooped your ass with skill and you don’t know the match up because you and every one else are too busy tier whoring to know any matchups that aren’t A tier or higher. Basically, if it isn’t fox you don’t need to know really cause nobody doesn’t play fox. That’s what happened here.
@TreyMM-qz4wg Half of Amsa's punishes only work because people keep missing techs due to matchup unfamiliarity. Yoshi is not that good.
@@Adam_U you sound like 'L'effen.
lmao isnt one of the ppl saying yoshi is top tier amsa himself? lol, guess you would know better than him
@@mfbandit7930 And Hbox says Puff is only like 5th or 6th best character even though everyone else agrees top 3. I guess we can't argue it, Hbox is automatically right because you don't know better than him
@TreyMM-qz4wgfound Leffens alt
Remember when we would refer to some players as the gods of melee? Now these gods are getting beat by a Yoshi. What a time to be alive.
Leffen was never a god
The fact that they are even referred to as gods is goofy in itself. They are super good at a game that someone else made...cool. "God" is an over-exaggeration lol
@@foyo5497 I mean, it’s a figure of speech…? It’s a cultural term in the melee community, the same way we refer to someone being “insanely good” at a game, we call them a god at it because we mean it figuratively and more so objectively, not literally being a god? It’s just a replacement of a word with slang, not really an over exaggeration based on its usual context.
@@foyo5497 They were the 5 greatest players at one point in the game, the skill gap between them and other players was so vast that the 6th best player could barely take stocks off them. That's why they got that title.
@@EdDevil thats not even remotely true, there were dozens of players who were close enough in skill level to consistently take games off them, and also several players who even took sets. They were just distinct because they were the only 5 players who were winning majors and all had at least 1 set win on the other 4, and it was a huge cornerstone to be the first person to take a set off all 5. Hax and Wobbles even came close by beating 4/5 of them, Leffen was the first to beat all 5 though.
It was always a dumb title and I remember m2k complaining about it back in the day.
The FTX logo on the jersey makes this funnier
Ahaha came to say this.
LMAO
HIS DRIP TAKING Ls TOO
Damn he took a sponsorship from FTX too???
Lmao Leffin losing in all aspects rn
Amsa taking out the trash 😂 always nice to see amsa play
Dude his English has gotten so good!
He lives in Canada now so lots of practice
IKR, i'm so proud of him! I still remember when he would turn to Toph for help and when Slime said he wanted to stay abreast of the news, aMSa said "breasts on the news?" XD
Bro amsa became 英語上手
How the turntables
The only good thing about the fact that there are still melee tournaments is that there’s always an opportunity to watch leffen lose
I don’t know if that’s the ONLY good thing. Just probably the best thing.
@@GuyN0ir I said what I said lol. Although it’s fun to laugh at leffen being a clown, I think melee is better off dead with all the other 20 year old games that aged like milk
@@Heavymetalthunda3 I personally think longer lifespans for competitive games is a good thing. Melee isn't the only one where the meta kept evolving far into the game's lifespan.
@@GuyN0ir the game and the community are both awful lol. It’s also holding back any future smash titles because of stupid dickheads like leffen who spend the entire month after the game comes out crying about how melee is better because the new game is different.
How is the meta evolving? one guy won with yoshi against someone infamous for not doing his homework and making excuses when he loses because he’s not as good as he thinks he is. That’s not meta evolution that’s one guy winning with yoshi lol.
even if the meta is “still evolving,” the game is outdated and plays like shit compared to literally anything made in the last 10 years. Like I said, I think it’s better off being fondly remembered than being forcibly kept alive by boomers who don’t like change keeping it hooked up to life support
yeah, melee should die. chess is old hat as well. we should make way for the new, better games.
oh wait.
2:23
Imagine missing a tech chase and dying at 10%. That whole chain is disgusting.
Babe wake up, Leffen lost
Literally the reason I clicked on this video
Amsa single handedly raising the viability of yoshi is still absolutely insane to me
It definitely seems like Amsa has leveled up. I didn't think Yoshi could move so quickly.
Yeah in person I saw him at Shine 2023 dude is not human haha his fingers are like Guitar Hero tier
It's Melee. Everyone that doesn't Simp for a princess and are a flightless dragon are fast
@@samuelbrown1283Ganon and the swordies are also kinda slow compared to Spacies, Yoshi, and Pika
Yoshi is not top 5. Amsa is top 5. You don't see any other Yoshis making grand finals for a reason
You are being reductive. Its like saying a volkswagen beetle is not fast because not enough people drive them
Like I read somewhere, Yoshi has a high skill ceiling. What that means is that when you play to his strengths you can qualify for competitive setplay
There are few people who are making too 8's with Yoshi because they are not confident in his kit. If AMSa's success was random, then you could attribute it to luck or riding the wave, but because he is consistent with the handling of the character you must put respect on Yoshi
What people like you like to do is gather all of your favorite toys and play army with them. You are conditioned by dominant strategy to bet on the merits that reflect your likeness. In other words, that which is most like you should win, that which is confusing to you should lose
In this case you fail to appreciate that their are levels to chess. Characters that have a set skill floor are consistently facing each other. Sometimes Marth is on top, sometime its Sheik, sometimes its Peach, and sometimes Puff
By your own rhetoric, only the players make them good. What I'm saying is that because they are always in a round round robin as the proving ground, the value of those choices is variable. Its NOT always Marth or C Falcon, but they have been proven as success because of how _their_ kit is embellished by the meta
For that reason you get players who are predisposed to certain habits because they believe that rote memorization is the path to proving themselves. I just wonder how your argument stands when aMSa is essentially proving the character through both hard work and talent
@@ramblincapuchin9075 nah, it's more like "this car is bad but this dude can do insane drift with it"
@@ramblincapuchin9075 i don't usually say this but...
ratio.
puf lol
Okay, you don't see other puffs making grand finals either. Like I don't think Yoshi is a top 5 character, but this is a weak argument.
When not even the meta tier chars can save you hahaa
Not even that, but the _top-tier_ in the game, commonly ranked at SS lmao
4:18 I never played melee but this looks so damn cool
Surprised you can follow that part as it's pure meta right there; all mind games
As soon as you play, you’ll feel a completely different game. What these guys are doing is anything but natural, or even intended by the developers
We're really living in an amazing era for melee. To see someone do so amazingly well, and with a character that literally NOBODY else in the scene can pull off. It's like something out of an anime.
Crazy how good this janky game is the meta evolving going on 30 years
22 years, I wouldn't count that as going on 30 years. I was like 12 when this game came out, don't make me feel so old lol
@@NathanRW dude, the game is actually 30 years old and you and I are actually 60.
I am Elgorth, the elder sage of 200 years in the hidden Kingdom of Argand. Super Smash Bros Melee came out when I was 20.
@@hps362 ishnuallah sranger I too am from the forgotten lands of the future
@@NathanRW I was like 10 I think jeezus or like 9
Amsa 3od leffen and ibdw 🤯
Is leffen gonna complain about Yoshi down smash now? Lmao.
watching leffen get his ass handed to him is always such a treat
Watching aMSa playing Yoshi is like watching art
Is this one of those situations where someone sticks around in a community even when the majority of people don't like him? That's what it seems like ngl
We need to nerf/limit every character except for Fox
Leffen after this match: Yoshi’s shield should be illegal because I can’t shield poke it
This battle is the embodiment of Good Vs Evil
The story of leffen getting 3-0'd continues. All is right with the world :)
Hey guys I really think we need a jump limit on Yoshi. The super armor he gets from just pressing jump is too strong, I cant win against it and I dont want to get any better. If the rules dont change I wont be competing in melee next year.
I find it fascinating that a single man has managed to change the meta that much
armada moment
1 man can change the world. I think 1 man can definitely change melee
@@ardentknight88 Speaking of which, how come there aren't any top players who use Peach anymore?
@@whosaidiwantedahandle llod is arguably top 10, polish top 20, and trif recently beat leffen
Are you talking about Armada, Hbox, or Amsa?
its funny how they both look like the character they play . and foxes rude overconfident jerkiness/ arrogance is leffens personalty too
Ban Leffen
Lmao Lef got his rep as a Yoshi player making upsets, now cries about Yoshi
W-A-S-H-E-D
Leffen is free💯
"Egg throw limit! No, double jump limit! No, no, shield parry limit!"
-Leffen, probably
A new demi-god is born... The Mid Tier god
your life is something! you serve select purposes! you should acknowledge yourself now! and continue sharing oxygen that continues to be generated in this blue trapped bubble, because who really knows what we're here for? be aware of yourself. i mean that with a 100%. with a 1000%
@@ApexGale ok...?
@@earthrocker8955 LowTierGod reference.
Edit: Edited Low Tier God speech 1min
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aMSa is totally the mid-tier god. I'm stealing this.
Dude amsa just lives 2 seconds in the future watching him play is blizz
Few pleasures in life as perfect as watching Leffen get 3-0'd.
So satisfying to watch him lose
Amsa's APM looks insane
I remember when "Ice" said, there will never be a yoshi player who can beat him, no matter how good this yoshi is. Bc yoshi is bottom tier
Leffen is washed up. He hasn't been a God slayer since 2018.
So why is leffen playing with controller after shilling for that other pad so much?
“yeah honestly fox is the worst top tier, yoshi’s super armor and egg easily give him the top spot”
- Leffen, 5 minutes after getting 3-0’d by a Yoshi
Never have I ever seen such a crazy Yoshi and Yoshi movement
Commentators are not even talking about the match. Super annoying
That’s what he gets
Hater
@@nickcage6389 lmfao cry
@@biblical_figure does this count😂
@@nickcage6389 yes because you're feigning snide sarcasm after you were the one who was pressed enough to reply
@@biblical_figure as you reply LOL some downy level b8
Amsa who has grinded for years finally getting wins and positive recognition. I admit I'm not the biggest fan of him... I sort of wrote him off as that guy who was good at yoshi who would play well but be a middle of the pack andy. But he's shown up this year. I got to give him props.
I hate it when someone plays a character outside the Marth/Falco/Fox meta and performs well suddenly people wanna call the character a tier 0 or limit its abilities that the person playing has had to optimize to play against top tiers. They aren't broken! Other people are just too focused on the top they can't see the threats from the bottom.
Knowing Leffen he probably went and made a tier list after this saying Puff was the only character stronger than Yoshi.
Anyone else find it interesting that amsa and hbox both held jobs in industry as engineers and make manchild talentless leffen mald hard?
Losing in Smash is the worst. It's not that you lost to some skilled player or the match up that gets people, it's that you lose to the goofiest looking characters ever made. Teenage Mutant Space Pirate losing to Barney the Dinosaur XD. On a side note, I'm glad Leffen lost. Horrible, horrible human being
excuse me did he parry a shine at 2:32?
Yep
always love seeing leffen lose. ffing jackarse
As a Yoshi main, it's refreshing to see some Amsa pop up and represent.
Who would win?
-The best character in the entire game?
*OR*
-A tax dodging dinosaur?
Something so great about watching Lefen get annihilated.
Leffen's next video: "Is Yoshi-Fox 60/40?"
First you kids lose to a puff. Now a yoshi? Plz
You need huge eggs to play Yoshi
amsa is now a god
Leffen is just trash, he's been playing the same way for half a decade and brings nothing new to the competetive scene. Washed.
Yoshi is 10th on the tier list....A fox player really complains about that? Yikes.
tier list placement doesn't matter... fox-yoshi is BAD for yoshi. aMSa could genuinely be the best player in the world the way he routinely beats foxes.
@@ursamajor4684 saying tier placements don't matter isn't fully accurate, there's a reason they are where they are
@@TimothyGod it doesnt necessarily matter in reference to specific matchups. characters can be worse overall but have playable or outright better matchups against higher-tier characters, such as ICs-sheik, marth-fox (debatable, most people agree fox is the best character), and famously YL-puff (though thats a little antiquated and hasnt been studied).
Seeing the FTX sponsorship on leffens jersey at the end as they get up is the cherry on top of this whole exchange
Amsa so good. So much fun to watch
I will watch any video of Leffen losing. It does not matter. I’m a hater
When leffen has to play against someone who is good at the game
It truly is time for Leffen to leave the smash scene. He has always been problematic, and now he is washed and the only thing keeping him relevant is his large twitter following and that he causes a scene every time someone wipes the floor with him.
Whenever someone says the yoshi overpowered say these 6 words
Yoshi cant jump out of shield
3-0
always get a little happier when Leffen loses a set
:D
I would sub and watch a channel entirely dedicated to showing Leffin fails
Same
Ain't nobody been this scared of dinosaurs since the first jurassic park