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I like the comics origin of the characters a lot more. Megatron was a mining robot and Optimus was a hauler. The Primes ruled the planet tyranically; those born a miner would die a miner and were to do nothing but their job, forever. Megatron and Optimus rallied the robots together to fight back against the primes. The primes offered Megatron and Optimus seats as Primes to end the war. Optimus accepted, wanting to "change the system from within." Megatron rejected, because the only way to free the robots was to tear down the old rulers. And that's where you get autobots vs decepticons and the pure hatred of megatron towards optimus: he sees optimus as a betrayer of the ideals they fought for together.
I like how inconsistent the show is. The Space Bridge is supposed to be the one way they can get off Earth yet they fly to Cybertron on more than one occasion and at some points they have spaceships that can take them off of Earth. Why do they bother staying at all?
@@hyperion3145 Because the Decepticons wouldn't leave. Too much tantalizing energy to drain. Gotta defend humanity from their ravaging. Show was dumb at times, but, that part always made sense to me.
Alex Lemonds Except when the Decepticons do leave. That energy point is a good one if Shockwave and Starscream (the two greatest offenders) did not casually fly from Earth to Cybertron every other episode.
Narrator: "This perpetual war should have put the Transformer race on the brink of extinction." Autobot in Season 3 sees about a hundred Decepticons headed his way: "EVERY Decepticon in the universe is coming towards us!" Yeah, I think they DID come pretty close there.
In the IDW comics timeline the casualties for this specific war was over 4.5 billion Cybertronians died, and 100 billion members of other species were killed as well. Considering that Prowl stated that fact I doubt he included animal life. The war has caused the extinction of at least 6 species that had the technology to traverse space. Out of those 100 billion, 1 billion were humans. When the war was over only 10,000 Cybertronians remained. However this figure does not count the tens of thousands who were neutral that fled long before Cybertron became a wasteland.
Samuel Richards that seems kind of a low figure for a multiple millions of years long war, the human race has existed for about 200,000 and in just that time there have been an estimated 100 billion of us, for many millions of years the casualties would likely be considerably higher than that.
@@Dell-ol6hb I am assuming that you are referring to the Cybertronian casualties. Apologies in advance for this very long response. Unlike what is shown in the cartoon most Transformers universes do not involve the Quintessons creating a slave species. It is often that they try to enslave Cybertronians, and upgrade them with ill intent in mind, but in most timelines Cybertronians are created in a few different ways. Evolution: This was what some Cybertronians thought they come from, specifically gears and pieces of metal evolving to be alive. This theory was first seen in the first issue of the Marvel comics, but was later debunked in the same series. Therefore this does not happen. Forged: This happens when Vector Sigma, a.k.a. Primus, a.k.a. core of Cybertron, sends out a pulsewave of energy to a "hot spot." These are specific areas were Primus can give away part of his life force and send it up to the surface. The Spark eventually starts to mold the metal of Cybertron around it, until they have decided on a form of their choosing. Unlike humans, when they are born they are already intelligent, they often have mentors for aid in getting used to things, but they can function, and work within the first few days. Some who are forged are point one percenters, they have a lot of energy in there spark and they are far more powerful than the average Cybertronian. Many point one percenters in the war, were responsible for "cleansing" entire planets. Some are also Outliers, who have abilities that do not relate to there alt mode. Once Cybertron got into a war the sheer destruction caused the Hot Spots to go dormant, making it so the population rarely got more members. Constructed Cold: This was a way to eliminate having to rely on Hot Spots. Under Nova Prime instructions, the Matrix of Leadership, a portion of there god, was put on a dissection table until it release energy to create Sparks. These Sparks are then frozen until a predetermined body can be constructed. There were two waves. One before the war, which mostly constructed labor class bodies, and one during the war, which constructed primarily military bodies. The ones born during the war only taught how to shoot a gun, then they were thrown out of a ship onto a battle, most died a few minutes after being born, often before there body even started to fully function. So that fewer troops could be added, both sides started to destroy Sparks before they could be born, stopping the population in another way. Budding: Budding is similar to being Forged except that rather than a part of Primus being seperated and having independent thought. A part of another Cybertronian is split off and becomes another Cybertronian. This is basically just asexual reproduction. Most who budd are descendants of the Primes, rather than direct descendants of Primus. They also share several personality traits that get carried over, and feel small amounts of pain if one of their "offsprings" is killed. Liege Maximo, the Prime of Deception, budded more than all the other Primes, a key traits were often, aggression, and obviously deception. Most of them eventually decided to become Decepticons. The major negative of this type of reproduction is that unlike those who are Forged, those who are Budded have not been showered in the light of Primus, resulting in a mass exodus and formation of a new faction, called the Cybertronians. As such they did not partake in the war because they were to busy creating the most powerful empire of their race. Sexual Reproduction: There is only one know case of this. Some Cybertronians have organic alt modes, i.e. Beast Wars, because of this they have sexual organs. Since this piece of lore originated from Japan, which does not take it as seriously, we do not know the full details, nor do we want to. All we know is that "Z Grill" and "Kitte Shushu" loved each other very much and all of a sudden a Cybertronian named "Stampy" showed up. So yeah, it is difficult to get new troops, and it is common to not have any violence between the two factions for centuries because they are preparing for a fight and simply ignore each other until they are ready. Plus it is very, very hard to kill a Cybertronian, despite what the movies show, even if there head is cut off they can still be alive if it is reattached quick enough. Finally after Cybertron was abandoned, they focused more on building new empires than trying to take down their enemies. All of this leading to a very long war that was probably boring for them, except the occasional exciting battle that last only a few hours, kills a noticeable percentage of their population, and results in the destruction of an entire star system.
@@Dell-ol6hb That's the point. ~100 Decepticons being "all the decepticons in the universe" IS a low figure because after millions of years of war, THAT IS ALL THAT IS LEFT. And there apparently can't be that many more Autobots for that number to be intimidating. So after millions of years of war, the entire Cybertronian race has been been reduced to only a few hundred individuals from possibly millions or even billions and the only reason they aren't entirely extinct is because they're very hard to kill and don't die of old age.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 But they CAN die from old age in the old IDW comic universe. Megatron is literally getting old and his spark is starting to flicker during the Lost Light arc, which is a common thing to happen to old, slowly dying Cybertronians.
Transformers Car Robots / RiD 2001, as standalone a cartoon show as Animated Ultra Magnus displays his pent-up jealousy to leader-brother Optimus Prime by the later half of the show, after having long been denied of the Matrix of Leadership. He'll straight-up despark his own brother for the Matrix the moment Prime is at his most vulnerable. That's one of those rare cases of Autobot internal disarray. Same show had Megatron/Gigatron endure the quarrel of his rival lieutenants Sky-Byte and Scourge (erh, Black Convoy) to be the rightest hand robot of said leader.
"...he also immediately kills Starscream the next time he sees him. This is the most progress the Decepticons have made in over 4 million years." Lmao 😂😂
It's a shame it doesn't even seem he tried to keep the same style voice, despite claiming so. It's just a more high pitched Megatron. Movie Galvatron was the best.
@@JohnSWeekley I meant that Lenard Nemoy didn't sound like Lenard Nemoy in the movie. Why the hell do you get a listers like Nemoy and Wells, then electronically distort their voices so much no one recognizes them?
@@kyriss12 ohh I gotcha. Well, star power to bring in audience for one. And they're Transformers, so it makes sense to distort the vocals. Even Nimoy spoke a little differently for the roll to sound more robotic.
I love how the video lists all of Starcream's mistakes and failures, but doesn't mention the fact that he's the only reason the Autobots are still around in the first place... They were still deactivated inside the Ark/Autobot spaceship when the Decepticons were restored and got ready to conquer the Earth. But against Megatron's command to save his energy Starscream randomly fires at the ship, causing Optimus to fall into the restoration beam, igniting the entire conflict again : )
Hench the reason fannon thinks Starscream is a double agent for the Autobots... Because of the stuff he does. While that isn't true it would make for a great AU concept.
Nice theory, didn't come across that one. Another one I stumbled across is that he can't bring himself to off Starscream, because he sees him as possessing several traits that epitomise the Decepticon ideal. In retrospect, perhaps Megatron had no choice but to tolerate Starscream, simply because he knew the Decepticons would collapse without some form of leadership, no matter how stupid that leadership might end up being. He saw that no other Decepticon besides Starscream, even had the will to lead, and thus Megatron kept him around simply to allow the Dcons to survive if something happened to him.
@@MediaZealot In the original toys they had these little stat blocks you had to have a red filter to read. They make a big deal about Megatron, and his firepower was rated 10. Starscream was like the only other Decepticon rated a 10. Meaning for all his shortcomings, Starscream was one of Megatron's most powerful soldiers. Also, I think there was a certain amount of "I know I can handle Starscream's attempts to usurp me, whereas I'd have to deal with figuring out who was plotting to replace me in more creative ways." There is an interesting concept that doesn't quite fit but it's one of those weird theories that just might explain a lot of what goes on. In the series "Beast Wars", they go back in time and land on Earth a few million years ago. By this time, a lot of what happened has passed into Transformer's myth and legend. After a few seasons, it is revealed that the Megatron in charge of the bad guys (no relation, but he renamed himself after the original) has a bunch of data that was an emergency backup plan by Megatron(1G). He spends some time trying to nudge the timeline just enough to put the Predacons on top instead of the Maximals, but this is ultimately foiled in one of the best scenes in Transformers history. (Code of Hero, Beast Wars). A little later he tries to carry out Megatron(G1)'s plan: Go to the Ark, and kill the Autobots while they are in stasis lock. Apparently when you shove two sparks in one body things go... interesting for the chassis doing the carrying, and in a bid for maximum power, he arranges to bond with Megatron(G1)'s spark. Now it's quite obvious that Megatron(BW) is insane, obsessed with power, and due to the tiny size of the forces available, prone to retreat at the first sign of things going south. Also, he actively cultivates disloyalty and infighting within his ranks believing it makes them stronger. He carries around Megatron(G1)'s spark for the better part of a season till the good guys ultimately win and force the spark back into Megatron(G1). Also, somewhat earlier in the series, Starscream's spark slipped through a transwarp portal into the past and possessed one of the Predacons, though he was driven out later. So the theory goes like this: Starscream's spark is extra insane due to being disembodied for millenia, and he spent at least a small amount of time in near proximity of his original self, who was apparently a competent enough leader to be in charge of the Decepticon's air arm before the trip to Earth. That puts his original spark even more off his rocker and results in the insane scheming beyond normal and his complete overconfidence. But Megatron also gets something from his BW counterpart: Even more megalomania, a penchant for grand schemes, a lack of patience, and an odd allowance of actual acts of betrayal. Thus both of those Decepticons were driven insane by interacting with another, insane individual, and in one case, his own thousands if not tens of thousands of years old insane spark. Which in the end is an attempt at explaining the Purple Griffon as well.
I prefer the old explanation of "Starscream is SO toxic, vile, cruel, narcisistic and therefore DANGEROUS he is way WAY more useful if pointed towards enemies. Too bad you have to live with him when he is nearby". It's like keeping a king cobra in your house so you can use it to kill people when you need to. Also he is mentioned several times as an ACE pilot with high firepower almost second to none when in the air, just see him in BW when he possesed waspinator, he mops the floor with the other fliers and anyone trying to shoot at him.
@@MediaZealot in the idw comics, in "Spotlight: Megatron" it's explained that Megatron keeps Starscream around to keep himself on his toes, alert at all times, and constantly counter-scheming to keep his own mind sharp.
Megatron: I am one of the most powerful decepticons, but ultimately a mental case. Galvatron: I am even more powerful, but even more mentally unstable. Moral: With great power comes great instability.
Overlord: I'm an abominable, bloodthirsty sadist who cruelly taunts his victims & is borderline stalker ex lover like obsessed with Megatron. Care to join my crew? :P
For the record this seems to be a genuine rule in Adventure time, where Simon, Betty, magic Man and grass wizard are excellent examples of this. Even bonnie follows this rule to a certain extent.
Whooooo! Alien robots that turn into cars and back into robots. As a kid I always thought it was weird the Constructocons were bad guys as a kid. Bulldozers and Dumptrucks kicked ass, I thought. Now as an adult when I see construction equipment my heart will sink and will feel dread knowing traffic will be hellish. Yes, Constructocons are evil.
@@kaistzar2831 im i getting the constructocons and combatacons mixed up? or does that mean megatron progammed swindler with the greed that made him scrap his team mates?
The Constructicons' greatest evil victory would have come during the 1980s if the Cold War had ever gone hot; their roadworks at Newport Pagnell would have resulted in the US cruise missiles being held up there in traffic... and that's where the Soviet nukes were targeted.
My theory over why Megatron is so incompetent? Because his own subconscious has programmed himself to lose. Because he knows that if he ever wins, his reason to exist will stop. He is a machine built for war, therefore he must do everything in his power to ensure that war continues forever. So everytime he's on the verge of victory, he does something to cause himself to lose. He even keeps Starscream around as an act of self-sabotage. Megatron desires to keep the war going, but he can't acknowledge it to his conscious self, otherwise it would cause a mental breakdown.
The problems with the cons can all be put under one one phrase: they're a kratocracy, meaning they are ruled by who ever is perceived to be the strongest. This is why, I think, Megatron doesn't kill Starscream, because in Decepticon culture, he's within his legal rights to challenge Megatron whenever he pleases, and killing him off could be seen as fear, and thus weakness, unless he betrays the decepticon cause. Hell, Starscream isn't alone in trying to replace Megatron, and the moment Megs is gone, everyone got into a measuring contest brawl to see who should be in charge. This is why they are constantly backstabbing each other and so forth, they are bred into this mindset and thus their lack of trust for each other. In the comics it's worse, Shockwave actually dethrones Megatron, he gets dethroned by Scorpinok and then Galvatron comes in and so on. Alternatively Starscream is simply too hard to kill, Megatron has tried to kill him before, and generally doesn't even bother to seriously to kill him unless he makes him so pissed of that he forgets this fact. Next Problem: As you said, they can't maintain a peacetime economy. It's been shown several times in expanded media, that the Autobots have a civilian population and the Cons do not. You're either a slave or a Decepticon. This means their economy is literally going to collapse on itself, if they ever find themselves without something to conquer.
In some aspects Starscream is actually good at his job, As being Megatrons right hand man he knows a lot of secrets that he could easily ruin them if he was to defect to the Autobots or something which is why he dosnt kill him iirc Megatron says hes too good to die but his constant rebellion tendencies are the most annoying thing against him.
@@Zxzero36 I think Megatron keeps Starscream around because he knows he wants to dethrone him. Starscream is a good fighter but his tendencies to betrayal keep Megatron on his toes while Starscream draws other disloyal members into his scheme making Megatrons job in sorting traitors from loyal soldiers easier.
So if the Decepticons' economy would collapse if they fail to conquer anything, then a way for the Autobots to win would be to quarantine the Decepticons in the lands they currently own and keep a single one of them from leaving, and make sure that the Decepticons don't take another inch of land. If the Decepticons operate on a plunder economy, then the Autobots would lay siege to their entire nation by quarantining them, and the Decepticons would literally be starved into submission or complete collapse as their nation fragments into smaller nations that declare war on their neighbors to take as much as they could. This was probably how Megatron's predecessors were defeated, and he made sure that the Decepticons were on the winning team by making them almost impossible to contain.
@@lelouchvibritannia7809 My theory is that Megatron orders the decepticons to retreat because if the battle continues they would lose due to lack of energy. All the decepticons use flight as their main form of transport unlike the autobots who prefer to stick with their car forms, meaning that all battles start with the autobots having more energy than the decepticons. That's the reason Megatron orders the decepticons to retreat as soon as they lose the tactical advantage they had in the episode, they wouldn't win a battle of attrition.
Decepticons, robots specifically built and designed for war and they cant win in a war against a rag tag team of civilian robots who do not even have enough weapons to go around... if that is not incompetence i dont know what is.
I agree with you both, for the most part, a team of untrained civilians should get decimated by an army of trained soldiers or warriors, but there are many mitigating factors. Incompetence, arrogance, group instability (Decepticon infighting is never absent), lack of loyalty, lack of motivation (What's the point of serving egomaniacal tyrant who doesn't offer you any substantial benefits or rewards), being the punching bag for the group's failures, battle fatigue, and lack of faith (in general).
The Decepticons took over more than 95% of Cybertron, forced their enemy to abandon it and were still able to fight them on Earth despite being massively outnumbered there.
Actually the reason galvatron is insane is a combo of the two. During his fight with rodimus, his head was cracked open. As he flew from space after being thrown he landed in the plasma of that weird planet and it seeped into the crack, mucking up his circuits.
16:37 Laserbeak is an underappreciated badass. His brother, Buzzsaw, was actually able to take out Omega Supreme in one of the comics. So despite their small size; these birds pack quite a punch.
42:53 "Poor old Soundwave hardly ever talks anymore. He's a broken robot." So broken that he doesn't even talk with his music-synth voice anymore. Poor bastard can't even find the fun in doing his job with his sweet voice without getting his shit kicked in by his crazy boss.
Fun fact: an original G1 Megatron figure actually got an Aussie collector arrested and ordered to NEVER display any of his figures publicly in his own home.
When i look back on the original transformers cartoon, i always think they are a dying race. There is very few bots around anywhere. Its their stupidly long lives that has somehow kept their species alive.
They have incredibly long lifespans and can literally reproduce at the rate of mass production; is killing each other constantly and getting preyed on by every other civilization around them a survival mechanism to prevent overpopulation?
Ah, lol...Love the Transformers...soooo gooood...hehe My favorite part is Megatron leaves cybertron to find another energy source and tells Shockwave to hold down the fort till he gets back. They crash onto Earth and wake up like 4 million years later and Shockwave isn't worried a bit. Doesn't even stand out that they are gone that long. Like it was yesterday.....lol
I really do love this series. So much fun going after weird and dumb sci-fi civilizations. Plus the great quips from mostly Tuvok helps a lot. Thanks for another fun video to watch.
"Soundwave, prepare to receive!" -Megatron Uuuuuh . . . This was quite possibly the most on the nose homoerotic innuendo phrase ever said in a kids cartoon series.
Maybe they are intentionally engineered to have certain deficiencies. The Decpticons might be engineered to lack initiative, bad at tactics and unable to work out their own power generation to make them reliant on the Quintasons as leadership. The autobots lack fighting ability so they can be controlled by the Decepticons or Quintasons through force. Both factions may intentionally have limited intelligence.
I agree with this theory! I'd also theorize that the Autobots are supposed to be the "Supporting" class for the civilian cybertronians and quintessons and that's why they're all things like haulers, firetrucks, police, ect.
@@SeviathTheHumanDrago IKR, that would also make perfect sense for the Quints to make dumb thugs and intelligent but weak robots (or someone strong, smart but with a horrible weakness). Why create a smart, powerful bot that's good at everything with no crippling flaws only to be a threat to you? Some of the bios' weakness sections are just funny - even most well-rounded characters have massive, even comical weaknesses lol. Blaster's obsession with "new tunes", Jetfire's endless glitches, Prowl and Shockwave completely getting messed up by anything illogical, Onslaught losing his mind over his plans going awry etc.
@@handanyldzhan9232 I also theorize that by this point in the war what we see of the Decepticons and Autobots, at least in G1, are the most elite of the elite warriors, soldiers, and gladiators, from their respective factions. Because if you think about it, in G1 continuity, bumblebee was something Akin to a delivery driver on cybertron right? Wouldn't it have made sense that they have a fleet of mailbot drones exactly like bumblebee? And since they're all drones they shared a hivemind sort of theoretically right? Bumblebee became who he was because he lived through the cons murdering his Clones all over the planet 1 after the other which caused him to become a spy for the Autobots.
Soundwave is a ghettoblaster. The Autobots had Blaster also a cassette player. Nowadays they would need usb-stick player for update. Transforming usb-sticks lol.
Tomatosauce with noodles Soundwave, Blaster and the cassettes have the unfortunate fate of being bots whose alt modes could can never translate well into modern day.
In their defence, the Decepticons and Autobots weren’t military robots. Megaton was a gladiator bot who led a revolt, a bit like Spartacus. He might be decent in an arena, but his knowledge of strategy was limited to what he could learn by doing. Likewise, the Autobots were serving bots an police bots in the days of old Cybertron.
@@sintanan469 Even in the G1 cartoon, the Autobots weren't military robots, and the Decepticons were probably intended to be disposable drones stupid enough to march to their doom. The Quintessons created the Autobots and Decepticons as two lines of mass-produced *consumer products.*
@@EndoftheBeginning17 it was told that way in the two part episode where the aerial bots use a portal to go back in time to early Cybertron. Don’t remember the title of the episode, but Arcee is in it so it was probably G2?
Maybe this show is actually an eerily prescient vision of what will happen if brain uploading technology is ever perfected. They've lived for millions of years, and in theory could live for billions more. Maybe, gazing into the abyss of such a vast amount of time, they realized that the true challenge of their existence will be to ever find a way to fill so many years. How will they ever find meaning? How will they hold off boredom and ennui for century after century after century? With an endless war and constant petty drama, that's how. Of course they interrupt their battles to give melodramatic speeches and always conveniently fail to finish things off - the whole point of the war is to make themselves feel relevant in the face of uncaring eternity.
that is a possible scenario of brain uploading its reletivly recent and i like to call it the high gaming scenario aka basically a immortal digital humanity would merely spread out and treat the solid world as a game recreating entertainment basically like ready player one fused with the matrix but the pod humans CONTROll the robots.
To be honest, they might have stood a chance, if it wasn't for Char undermining everything, or in The Origin, Kacylia literally betraying them on the cusp of victory and ensuring an unwinnable, unending war for absolutely no other reason than she was butt-mad.
@Kotor That doesn't matter though, not in the new canon. They had won, the Federation was going to surrender and make Zeon a legitimate sovereign nation. Then Kacylia let Revil go, and he blew the whistle that Zeon was exhausted after their first push and would lose if they kept up. If you don't blame it on Char's sabotage, Kacylia surely gets the blame. Char killing Garma basically took the fight out of Degwin anyhow. Then bloody Gihren blows up half their fleet at a time of dire need, and gets killed by Kacylia. The whole family was trying to run their own master-plan for domination. And that secret gambit pile-up snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, hands down. They also punished the actually capable officers, since they feared losing power to them. But the whole thing is just the story of how WWII went, but in space. :V
to be fare to the Forerunners the flood on the rings was meant to be destroyed after they fired but the destruction order never got to the labs becuse the rings fire disrupted the signal
@@zeonthefox no, it's mentioned in the CEA terminals that the monitors were to experiment on the Flood in the hopes of finding a cure for the Reclaimers to use. Also there were lots of other ways they're stupid.
While I am a Halo fan I must say, some of the stuff the Forerunners do is quite contradictory. Of Course, it is nowhere like Psychlol levels of stupidity, but being hugely advanced with understanding of biology and all other sciences, and failing to identify the threat of the Flood before demilitarising? Yeah. The Covenant are not that stupid, after all they Roflstomped humanity for 28 years pretty much, and they are not ignorant in the traditional sense, as the member species are mislead by the Prophets, who do know the truth, but withhold it from the public. Either way, If MediaZealot would do it I would watch it anyway!
@@benhooper1956 the reason the Covenant stomped Humanity is because of superior ships with shields and glassing beams. The reason Humanity won ground battles was down to Spartans and the fact that standard Covenant commanders had piss poor tactics.
You know, I'm reminded of a joke at the end of the Revenge of the Fallen DS game when you talk about Deception Leadership. At the end of the game the Fallen makes you custombot the new leader cause your semi competent. At this point even the franchise is aware that the Deception leader are as useful as a sack of rocks
I chuckled when Optimus Primes called humans "Primitive and violent" in thr first transformers movie, forgetting how his own race has became "primitive and violent"
I would love to hear your rundown of the comic continuity. It definitely shed the marketing mandate and (handwave-y as it is) came up with excellent explanations for various quirks, and is an awesome story besides. It ends up being a most human story despite its origins.
This was by far my favorite cartoon growing up & yes even when I watched it I could see many of the issues that Media Zealot highlighted but regardless he said one important thing that no matter what they will always be cool
I just want to make everyone notice that Megatron's origin in Season 3 shows him being assembled by the Constructicons, while in season 1 Megatron says he created the Constructicons on Earth. So who came first? The chicken or the egg?
@@PresleyPerswain other constructicons you had lots of transformers who looked liked each other megs had thousands of seekers and reflector bots and on war dawn all his drones looked the same so im guessing since it was eight constricticons shown they must have built megs and the the six constructicins we know besr are the ones megatron recruited
Yeah that’s a common debate Currently the theory is the 8 constructions created decepticons such as megatron but where pretty neutral and had a friendship with omega supreme unfortunately megatron unleashed a device on 6 of them that can reprogram cybertronians (this is shown in the show in the secrets of omega supreme) and this gave them the power to combine and ended up fighting omega supreme before they went into space and crash landed on earth before the ark did (similar to jetfire/skyfire while omega supreme attempted to follow them Around the tube if heavy metal was the constructicons ship was found but the crash destroyed there bodies in a way that made repair near impossible so instead megatron rebuilt them using earth materials (as shown by the lack of cybertonian decay in desertion of the dinoboys) somewhat similar to how starscream resurrected the combaticons
Seeing all their irrational goals and extremely emotional motives nitpicked just makes me love the show even more! They may be short sighted, but that's why we love them X3
@@tureytaino2785 Their tech was as good as G.I. Joe and even sometimes better. I always wondered where they got the money to buy the stuff they used. Who was funding them? Where was their factories? They had an army like that of a a decent sized country, and yet always were all over the world. I know they were called terorists in the show/comics, least that is what I remembered.
To make sure your brain isn't fryed by alien robots, try out Transformers Animated (2007). The continuity is cleaner, while still having all of the power struggles that both Autobots and Decepticons have. Humans also protest against the cybertronians, making them a "third party", or atleast a nuetral center
It´s like after eons of war, they started to be glitchy or something, maybe they were really not created to have free will: if they weren´t on a endelss civil war, they could be dangerous for everything else in their universe.
Actually this is the simplest explanation. They would be indeed unstoppable otherwise. TF Prime also provides the only rational explanation why they are even interested in Earth. Earth = Unicron
In defence of Starscream, he is the leader of the Seekers. A team made up of Starscream, Ramjet, Skywarp and Thundercracker who were scientists before the war. Starscream was, as Megatron says, the one who comes up with many of the super weapon ideas.
I'm going to make a toaster that cries in the morning when everyone leaves and the dogs are going to have to learn to deal with it. Crying blue tooth enabled Android toaster will need an enemy and the dogs will do the trick. The only ability beyond toast for the... Toaster will be crying and shouting "Megatron!" in various degrees of whiny child. This will not only fill but also sooth my 80s cartoon needs in an adult way.
To be fair, this is a kid’s cartoon from the 80s - I don’t think that the writers put more thought than “would a 7-year-old think this is cool?” into the details of the story...
The media zealot took it so easy on the transformers - there were many more insults to them made so obvious just with the clips in the video (its long enough though). Nice job on this - really fun!
The Cylons of the first Battlestar Galactica series The Covenant from Halo (Too stupid to win. I can explain) Ko-Dan Empire from The Last Starfighter Yep. That's all I can think of.
I love these videos. In the defense of the outdated models they transform into: in 1984 those models were actually modern. About the transition from Megatron to Galvatron yes it is obviously that he became unhinged at some point during the end of the movie or after. True Megatron is a classical theatrical villain and it is a question if he may be just as clichéd or even worse than Ming. The comic though is/was superior in that it evolved and aged better than the cartoon. Transformers the movie was clearly a culmination as it was daring in killing off so many characters popular ones at that... I can't wait for epiusode 2 of this installment and after that please do one about Action Force/G.I.JOE cartoon for that cartoon's cheesy sillyness deserves a severe ripping...
Given upgrades and overhauls like the F-15E and the brand new (as of date of comment) F-15EX, you could make a strong argument G1 Starscream is STILL modern.
I think Megatron keeps Starscream around as his lieutenant because he knows Starscream is a self-serving, traitorous man-child, but is also far too incompetent to actually manage to do anything to take control properly. Anyone else who could take Starscream's position would ultimately be far more competent and would probably be successful in a mutiny, so, even if they're completely loyal, Megatron is far too paranoid to allow anyone more competent than Starscream to be so close to him.
Well the Decepticons usually try to do stupid evil stuff while the Autobots try to stop them from doing all of this. Edit: Galvatron's madness might be the result of his plasma bath. Edit 2: It's definitively the plasma bath.
I truly like the way you describe this stuff without being to repetitive and using non amateur vocabulary makes your Content professional and worth watching over again to listen to a point . Most big youTuber channels can't pull that off makes it feel like I'm watching a big kid for example
I read a short fic once that addresses the lack of killings pre movie.....everyone’s weapon’s safety was on. Then someone noticed, and thus childhood scarring movie. It makes sense.
Man I really LOVE how you deliver your lines. Angry and tired at the same time. Like you care, and don't care at the same time, but at last moment you care just the smallest amount ! Thanks !!
Hence why it suddendly MAKES SENSE that Galvatron was so "Zealot Crusader" about the posible existence of an _alternate_ "Matrix of Leadership" for the Decepticons [it is basically the only thing that they really need to finally END their war]. -> Bonus points for being "hinted" by the creators of the Transformers.
In Phelous' review of the G1 series, he pointed out that he felt that Starscream's performance in the episode The Search for Alpha Trion showed why he was second-in-command of the Decepticons! Mind you Phelous may be a little biased cause Starscream is admittedly his favorite, though he does make a decent point! Sure Starscream's backstabbing and/or undermining of Megatron may be a detriment to them but then again the Decepticons are already prone to backstabbing anyway! I personally think Megatron keeps Starscream around as someone to blame his failures upon & the fact that Starscream is somewhat competent when he's not trying to usurp Megatron! Also it could retroactively have something to do with Starscream's mutated spark (according to Beast Wars, Starscream was able to survive death due to having a mutation that made his Spark effectively immortal)!
Admittedly given the drive of the decepticons obsession with destruction, conquest and conflict it doesn't surprise me that Megatron would Keep Starscream around. It may simply be to keep Megatron sharp and on his toes.
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bro, why this has no likes
You guys should do 1984.
The autobots must be really stupid if they're defeated by morons
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I like the comics origin of the characters a lot more. Megatron was a mining robot and Optimus was a hauler. The Primes ruled the planet tyranically; those born a miner would die a miner and were to do nothing but their job, forever. Megatron and Optimus rallied the robots together to fight back against the primes. The primes offered Megatron and Optimus seats as Primes to end the war. Optimus accepted, wanting to "change the system from within." Megatron rejected, because the only way to free the robots was to tear down the old rulers. And that's where you get autobots vs decepticons and the pure hatred of megatron towards optimus: he sees optimus as a betrayer of the ideals they fought for together.
That's..... so much better than what we got.
The classic liberals vs revolutionaries story. That sounds much better than the trash they gave us.
A movie with this story would be great. But with shitywood...
Robert Patrician which comics continuity? Marvel, Dreamwave or IDW
@Cian McCabe was he though? You CAN reform societies from within, and Megatrons extension of the war effectively killed their entire world.
Megatron summarizes everybody's experience when playing a team based game/sport: " I've got morons on my team "
Don't forget, "team killers" too. Team killers are the worst of the worst to have on your team.
He is also the bad player that complains about bad players.
That's actually a quote from "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid."
or when i play tf2's king of the hill mode
Lol
theres something so funny about how a feature of all the big villians in these cartoons is that theyre stuck in perpetual caps-lock
Your Karkat profile picture makes your comment even better
Skeletor: "MYAAH! YOU WILL NEVER DEFEAT ME, HE-MAN!"
@@simtexa *like in 5 min he is defeated or even just sleaged with setbacks*
Ya but it malrs look back at them now as some good gags
Starscream: *is exiled to an island*
Starscream's alternate mode: Am I a joke to you?
Yeah, it would've worked if Megs had ordered Screamy's fuel drained before Laserbeak dumped him there. Then he'd be screwed. :P
I like how inconsistent the show is. The Space Bridge is supposed to be the one way they can get off Earth yet they fly to Cybertron on more than one occasion and at some points they have spaceships that can take them off of Earth.
Why do they bother staying at all?
@@hyperion3145 Because the Decepticons wouldn't leave. Too much tantalizing energy to drain. Gotta defend humanity from their ravaging. Show was dumb at times, but, that part always made sense to me.
Alex Lemonds
Except when the Decepticons do leave. That energy point is a good one if Shockwave and Starscream (the two greatest offenders) did not casually fly from Earth to Cybertron every other episode.
Yes because he’s immortal because he can’t die for good and still fucks up incredibly
Narrator: "This perpetual war should have put the Transformer race on the brink of extinction."
Autobot in Season 3 sees about a hundred Decepticons headed his way: "EVERY Decepticon in the universe is coming towards us!"
Yeah, I think they DID come pretty close there.
In the IDW comics timeline the casualties for this specific war was over 4.5 billion Cybertronians died, and 100 billion members of other species were killed as well. Considering that Prowl stated that fact I doubt he included animal life. The war has caused the extinction of at least 6 species that had the technology to traverse space. Out of those 100 billion, 1 billion were humans. When the war was over only 10,000 Cybertronians remained. However this figure does not count the tens of thousands who were neutral that fled long before Cybertron became a wasteland.
Samuel Richards that seems kind of a low figure for a multiple millions of years long war, the human race has existed for about 200,000 and in just that time there have been an estimated 100 billion of us, for many millions of years the casualties would likely be considerably higher than that.
@@Dell-ol6hb I am assuming that you are referring to the Cybertronian casualties. Apologies in advance for this very long response.
Unlike what is shown in the cartoon most Transformers universes do not involve the Quintessons creating a slave species. It is often that they try to enslave Cybertronians, and upgrade them with ill intent in mind, but in most timelines Cybertronians are created in a few different ways.
Evolution: This was what some Cybertronians thought they come from, specifically gears and pieces of metal evolving to be alive. This theory was first seen in the first issue of the Marvel comics, but was later debunked in the same series. Therefore this does not happen.
Forged: This happens when Vector Sigma, a.k.a. Primus, a.k.a. core of Cybertron, sends out a pulsewave of energy to a "hot spot." These are specific areas were Primus can give away part of his life force and send it up to the surface. The Spark eventually starts to mold the metal of Cybertron around it, until they have decided on a form of their choosing. Unlike humans, when they are born they are already intelligent, they often have mentors for aid in getting used to things, but they can function, and work within the first few days. Some who are forged are point one percenters, they have a lot of energy in there spark and they are far more powerful than the average Cybertronian. Many point one percenters in the war, were responsible for "cleansing" entire planets. Some are also Outliers, who have abilities that do not relate to there alt mode. Once Cybertron got into a war the sheer destruction caused the Hot Spots to go dormant, making it so the population rarely got more members.
Constructed Cold: This was a way to eliminate having to rely on Hot Spots. Under Nova Prime instructions, the Matrix of Leadership, a portion of there god, was put on a dissection table until it release energy to create Sparks. These Sparks are then frozen until a predetermined body can be constructed. There were two waves. One before the war, which mostly constructed labor class bodies, and one during the war, which constructed primarily military bodies. The ones born during the war only taught how to shoot a gun, then they were thrown out of a ship onto a battle, most died a few minutes after being born, often before there body even started to fully function. So that fewer troops could be added, both sides started to destroy Sparks before they could be born, stopping the population in another way.
Budding: Budding is similar to being Forged except that rather than a part of Primus being seperated and having independent thought. A part of another Cybertronian is split off and becomes another Cybertronian. This is basically just asexual reproduction. Most who budd are descendants of the Primes, rather than direct descendants of Primus. They also share several personality traits that get carried over, and feel small amounts of pain if one of their "offsprings" is killed. Liege Maximo, the Prime of Deception, budded more than all the other Primes, a key traits were often, aggression, and obviously deception. Most of them eventually decided to become Decepticons. The major negative of this type of reproduction is that unlike those who are Forged, those who are Budded have not been showered in the light of Primus, resulting in a mass exodus and formation of a new faction, called the Cybertronians. As such they did not partake in the war because they were to busy creating the most powerful empire of their race.
Sexual Reproduction: There is only one know case of this. Some Cybertronians have organic alt modes, i.e. Beast Wars, because of this they have sexual organs. Since this piece of lore originated from Japan, which does not take it as seriously, we do not know the full details, nor do we want to. All we know is that "Z Grill" and "Kitte Shushu" loved each other very much and all of a sudden a Cybertronian named "Stampy" showed up.
So yeah, it is difficult to get new troops, and it is common to not have any violence between the two factions for centuries because they are preparing for a fight and simply ignore each other until they are ready. Plus it is very, very hard to kill a Cybertronian, despite what the movies show, even if there head is cut off they can still be alive if it is reattached quick enough. Finally after Cybertron was abandoned, they focused more on building new empires than trying to take down their enemies. All of this leading to a very long war that was probably boring for them, except the occasional exciting battle that last only a few hours, kills a noticeable percentage of their population, and results in the destruction of an entire star system.
@@Dell-ol6hb That's the point. ~100 Decepticons being "all the decepticons in the universe" IS a low figure because after millions of years of war, THAT IS ALL THAT IS LEFT. And there apparently can't be that many more Autobots for that number to be intimidating.
So after millions of years of war, the entire Cybertronian race has been been reduced to only a few hundred individuals from possibly millions or even billions and the only reason they aren't entirely extinct is because they're very hard to kill and don't die of old age.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 But they CAN die from old age in the old IDW comic universe. Megatron is literally getting old and his spark is starting to flicker during the Lost Light arc, which is a common thing to happen to old, slowly dying Cybertronians.
“I never get involved in domestic squabbles.”
-Optimus Prime, hero
"Domestic violence is ok, kids!"
Never interfere when your enemy is losing.
Transformers Car Robots / RiD 2001, as standalone a cartoon show as Animated
Ultra Magnus displays his pent-up jealousy to leader-brother Optimus Prime by the later half of the show, after having long been denied of the Matrix of Leadership. He'll straight-up despark his own brother for the Matrix the moment Prime is at his most vulnerable. That's one of those rare cases of Autobot internal disarray.
Same show had Megatron/Gigatron endure the quarrel of his rival lieutenants Sky-Byte and Scourge (erh, Black Convoy) to be the rightest hand robot of said leader.
Can you say me when was that . It sounds hilarious .
This comment has whole new dimensions after reading that slash fic in Lindsay Ellis' video that time.
"...he also immediately kills Starscream the next time he sees him. This is the most progress the Decepticons have made in over 4 million years."
Lmao 😂😂
Rumor has it Galvatron went insane after he found out he was no longer voiced by Leonard Nimoy.
It's a shame it doesn't even seem he tried to keep the same style voice, despite claiming so. It's just a more high pitched Megatron. Movie Galvatron was the best.
John S. Weekley / PRIMEVAL Music
Still didn’t sound like Lenard Nemoy though.
@@kyriss12 That's pretty much what I was getting at. He claimed to have tried to do Nemoy's voice, but in the end it didn't sound anything like it.
@@JohnSWeekley
I meant that Lenard Nemoy didn't sound like Lenard Nemoy in the movie. Why the hell do you get a listers like Nemoy and Wells, then electronically distort their voices so much no one recognizes them?
@@kyriss12 ohh I gotcha. Well, star power to bring in audience for one. And they're Transformers, so it makes sense to distort the vocals. Even Nimoy spoke a little differently for the roll to sound more robotic.
I love how the video lists all of Starcream's mistakes and failures, but doesn't mention the fact that he's the only reason the Autobots are still around in the first place... They were still deactivated inside the Ark/Autobot spaceship when the Decepticons were restored and got ready to conquer the Earth. But against Megatron's command to save his energy Starscream randomly fires at the ship, causing Optimus to fall into the restoration beam, igniting the entire conflict again : )
Hench the reason fannon thinks Starscream is a double agent for the Autobots... Because of the stuff he does.
While that isn't true it would make for a great AU concept.
@@seeleunit2000 certainly!
The better theory why he tolerated Starscream is because he knew about Screams mutated spark and how dangerous he'd become if killed.
Is that because he can posses other robots (forgot what their race is called) and cyborgs
Nice theory, didn't come across that one.
Another one I stumbled across is that he can't bring himself to off Starscream, because he sees him as possessing several traits that epitomise the Decepticon ideal.
In retrospect, perhaps Megatron had no choice but to tolerate Starscream, simply because he knew the Decepticons would collapse without some form of leadership, no matter how stupid that leadership might end up being. He saw that no other Decepticon besides Starscream, even had the will to lead, and thus Megatron kept him around simply to allow the Dcons to survive if something happened to him.
@@MediaZealot In the original toys they had these little stat blocks you had to have a red filter to read. They make a big deal about Megatron, and his firepower was rated 10.
Starscream was like the only other Decepticon rated a 10. Meaning for all his shortcomings, Starscream was one of Megatron's most powerful soldiers. Also, I think there was a certain amount of "I know I can handle Starscream's attempts to usurp me, whereas I'd have to deal with figuring out who was plotting to replace me in more creative ways."
There is an interesting concept that doesn't quite fit but it's one of those weird theories that just might explain a lot of what goes on. In the series "Beast Wars", they go back in time and land on Earth a few million years ago. By this time, a lot of what happened has passed into Transformer's myth and legend. After a few seasons, it is revealed that the Megatron in charge of the bad guys (no relation, but he renamed himself after the original) has a bunch of data that was an emergency backup plan by Megatron(1G). He spends some time trying to nudge the timeline just enough to put the Predacons on top instead of the Maximals, but this is ultimately foiled in one of the best scenes in Transformers history. (Code of Hero, Beast Wars).
A little later he tries to carry out Megatron(G1)'s plan: Go to the Ark, and kill the Autobots while they are in stasis lock. Apparently when you shove two sparks in one body things go... interesting for the chassis doing the carrying, and in a bid for maximum power, he arranges to bond with Megatron(G1)'s spark. Now it's quite obvious that Megatron(BW) is insane, obsessed with power, and due to the tiny size of the forces available, prone to retreat at the first sign of things going south. Also, he actively cultivates disloyalty and infighting within his ranks believing it makes them stronger. He carries around Megatron(G1)'s spark for the better part of a season till the good guys ultimately win and force the spark back into Megatron(G1). Also, somewhat earlier in the series, Starscream's spark slipped through a transwarp portal into the past and possessed one of the Predacons, though he was driven out later. So the theory goes like this: Starscream's spark is extra insane due to being disembodied for millenia, and he spent at least a small amount of time in near proximity of his original self, who was apparently a competent enough leader to be in charge of the Decepticon's air arm before the trip to Earth. That puts his original spark even more off his rocker and results in the insane scheming beyond normal and his complete overconfidence. But Megatron also gets something from his BW counterpart: Even more megalomania, a penchant for grand schemes, a lack of patience, and an odd allowance of actual acts of betrayal.
Thus both of those Decepticons were driven insane by interacting with another, insane individual, and in one case, his own thousands if not tens of thousands of years old insane spark. Which in the end is an attempt at explaining the Purple Griffon as well.
I prefer the old explanation of "Starscream is SO toxic, vile, cruel, narcisistic and therefore DANGEROUS he is way WAY more useful if pointed towards enemies. Too bad you have to live with him when he is nearby".
It's like keeping a king cobra in your house so you can use it to kill people when you need to.
Also he is mentioned several times as an ACE pilot with high firepower almost second to none when in the air, just see him in BW when he possesed waspinator, he mops the floor with the other fliers and anyone trying to shoot at him.
@@MediaZealot in the idw comics, in "Spotlight: Megatron" it's explained that Megatron keeps Starscream around to keep himself on his toes, alert at all times, and constantly counter-scheming to keep his own mind sharp.
Megatron: I am one of the most powerful decepticons, but ultimately a mental case.
Galvatron: I am even more powerful, but even more mentally unstable.
Moral: With great power comes great instability.
LOL
With great power come great insanity?
Overlord: I'm an abominable, bloodthirsty sadist who cruelly taunts his victims & is borderline stalker ex lover like obsessed with Megatron. Care to join my crew? :P
For the record this seems to be a genuine rule in Adventure time, where Simon, Betty, magic Man and grass wizard are excellent examples of this. Even bonnie follows this rule to a certain extent.
*Side effects**
Whooooo! Alien robots that turn into cars and back into robots. As a kid I always thought it was weird the Constructocons were bad guys as a kid. Bulldozers and Dumptrucks kicked ass, I thought. Now as an adult when I see construction equipment my heart will sink and will feel dread knowing traffic will be hellish. Yes, Constructocons are evil.
@@kaistzar2831 im i getting the constructocons and combatacons mixed up? or does that mean megatron progammed swindler with the greed that made him scrap his team mates?
@@wilmagregg3131 Starscream is the one that put his spark into the jeep, so it may very well have been Starscream.
The Constructicons' greatest evil victory would have come during the 1980s if the Cold War had ever gone hot; their roadworks at Newport Pagnell would have resulted in the US cruise missiles being held up there in traffic... and that's where the Soviet nukes were targeted.
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"Transformers G-1"
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@@joshuaolejasz9590 Came here to post this, lol
My theory over why Megatron is so incompetent? Because his own subconscious has programmed himself to lose. Because he knows that if he ever wins, his reason to exist will stop. He is a machine built for war, therefore he must do everything in his power to ensure that war continues forever. So everytime he's on the verge of victory, he does something to cause himself to lose. He even keeps Starscream around as an act of self-sabotage. Megatron desires to keep the war going, but he can't acknowledge it to his conscious self, otherwise it would cause a mental breakdown.
The problems with the cons can all be put under one one phrase: they're a kratocracy, meaning they are ruled by who ever is perceived to be the strongest.
This is why, I think, Megatron doesn't kill Starscream, because in Decepticon culture, he's within his legal rights to challenge Megatron whenever he pleases, and killing him off could be seen as fear, and thus weakness, unless he betrays the decepticon cause. Hell, Starscream isn't alone in trying to replace Megatron, and the moment Megs is gone, everyone got into a measuring contest brawl to see who should be in charge. This is why they are constantly backstabbing each other and so forth, they are bred into this mindset and thus their lack of trust for each other. In the comics it's worse, Shockwave actually dethrones Megatron, he gets dethroned by Scorpinok and then Galvatron comes in and so on.
Alternatively Starscream is simply too hard to kill, Megatron has tried to kill him before, and generally doesn't even bother to seriously to kill him unless he makes him so pissed of that he forgets this fact.
Next Problem: As you said, they can't maintain a peacetime economy. It's been shown several times in expanded media, that the Autobots have a civilian population and the Cons do not. You're either a slave or a Decepticon. This means their economy is literally going to collapse on itself, if they ever find themselves without something to conquer.
In some aspects Starscream is actually good at his job, As being Megatrons right hand man he knows a lot of secrets that he could easily ruin them if he was to defect to the Autobots or something which is why he dosnt kill him iirc Megatron says hes too good to die but his constant rebellion tendencies are the most annoying thing against him.
@@Zxzero36 I think Megatron keeps Starscream around because he knows he wants to dethrone him. Starscream is a good fighter but his tendencies to betrayal keep Megatron on his toes while Starscream draws other disloyal members into his scheme making Megatrons job in sorting traitors from loyal soldiers easier.
@@holo525 It might depend on the media but most if not all decpticons are loyal to megatron its only Starscream is maybe a few other is disloyal.
That is why I like the only transformer who'd just in it to destroy things. Wildrider. No allegiance, just destruction.
So if the Decepticons' economy would collapse if they fail to conquer anything, then a way for the Autobots to win would be to quarantine the Decepticons in the lands they currently own and keep a single one of them from leaving, and make sure that the Decepticons don't take another inch of land. If the Decepticons operate on a plunder economy, then the Autobots would lay siege to their entire nation by quarantining them, and the Decepticons would literally be starved into submission or complete collapse as their nation fragments into smaller nations that declare war on their neighbors to take as much as they could. This was probably how Megatron's predecessors were defeated, and he made sure that the Decepticons were on the winning team by making them almost impossible to contain.
"I've been looking forward to this" - Count Dooku
After 2 years in development, hopefully it has been worth the wait.
After 2 years in development, hopefully it has been worth the wait.
After 2 years in development, hopefully it has been worth the wait.
After 2 years in development, hopefully it has been worth the wait.
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"decepticons retreat"
- Megatron, in every episode he appeared in
Megatron:"DECEPTICONS..."
Starscream:"Let me guess: Retreat?"
Megatron:"NOW!!"
Actual quote from the cartoon.
To be fair, @@HypercatZ, this is better than throwing all of your forces at the enemy only to be obliterated by said enemy with up to excessive ease.
@@adamgray1753 Gauge your enemy's strengths, manpo- erh robotpower and tech levels. And then, there's the Scramble City 2-parter
@@HypercatZ you misquoted
Megatron: We're outnumbered!
Starscream: Let me guess. We retreat
-The decepticons leave
Not gonna lie, yours is funnier tho
@@lelouchvibritannia7809 My theory is that Megatron orders the decepticons to retreat because if the battle continues they would lose due to lack of energy. All the decepticons use flight as their main form of transport unlike the autobots who prefer to stick with their car forms, meaning that all battles start with the autobots having more energy than the decepticons. That's the reason Megatron orders the decepticons to retreat as soon as they lose the tactical advantage they had in the episode, they wouldn't win a battle of attrition.
15:57 can we at least appreciate Megatrons stupidity just a bit? He just threw a guy, that could literally transform into a plane, off a cliff
Decepticons, robots specifically built and designed for war and they cant win in a war against a rag tag team of civilian robots who do not even have enough weapons to go around... if that is not incompetence i dont know what is.
The trees speak Autobot.
Military units that lack loyalty and can't maintain discipline or an effective chain of command. Yeah, that makes sense.
I agree with you both, for the most part, a team of untrained civilians should get decimated by an army of trained soldiers or warriors, but there are many mitigating factors.
Incompetence, arrogance, group instability (Decepticon infighting is never absent), lack of loyalty, lack of motivation (What's the point of serving egomaniacal tyrant who doesn't offer you any substantial benefits or rewards), being the punching bag for the group's failures, battle fatigue, and lack of faith (in general).
The Decepticons took over more than 95% of Cybertron, forced their enemy to abandon it and were still able to fight them on Earth despite being massively outnumbered there.
You've accurately described nearly everyone's real life jobs, @@sydneystroud4397, too!
Laser Beak snd Ravage are the most capable warriors the Decepticons have ever produced
Thanks for watching Roberto, and thanks for the awesome content. I've been watching your channel since I got started 👊
In the comics it was Ratbat. The tape became King Of Cybertron and everything
Laserbeak in G1 singlehandedly defeated optimus prime one episode that so pathetic
and thats really sad
"Ah, LazerBeak! Unlike some of my OTHER warriors, YOU never fail me."
Actually the reason galvatron is insane is a combo of the two. During his fight with rodimus, his head was cracked open. As he flew from space after being thrown he landed in the plasma of that weird planet and it seeped into the crack, mucking up his circuits.
I'd argue that simply interacting with Unicron would drive most sentient beings insane, similar to cthulu...
@@propheci I understand, but that would've happened with Cyclonus and Scrounge.
I don't remember Galvatron's head being cracked open.
@@collegerebel It most likely happened when Rodimus flung him out of Unicorn's head, because you see that his entire body smashed through the wall.
@@collegerebel I think it was stated in the show by one of galvatrons minions after they got him out of the pit.
16:37 Laserbeak is an underappreciated badass.
His brother, Buzzsaw, was actually able to take out Omega Supreme in one of the comics.
So despite their small size; these birds pack quite a punch.
Laserbeak kicked ass he fought prime a few times too buzzsaw kicked ass in the comics in every issue except where omega kills him
Laserbeak nearly killed Optimus in season 1 when he blasted his circuitry leading to a retrieval mission to wheeljacks workshop on cybertron
42:53
"Poor old Soundwave hardly ever talks anymore. He's a broken robot."
So broken that he doesn't even talk with his music-synth voice anymore. Poor bastard can't even find the fun in doing his job with his sweet voice without getting his shit kicked in by his crazy boss.
LMFAOAOAOOOO THIS IS SOO SADDD :(
This video just justified why I love the G1 animated series...It is full of comedic stories, funny dialogues and characters
The cock ups and explosions and reactions always make it funny
Fun fact: an original G1 Megatron figure actually got an Aussie collector arrested and ordered to NEVER display any of his figures publicly in his own home.
What. How...?
Now that's just cruel
Imma need some context on this
Must be the masterpiece gun
No wonder he said it was personal.
When i look back on the original transformers cartoon, i always think they are a dying race. There is very few bots around anywhere. Its their stupidly long lives that has somehow kept their species alive.
They have incredibly long lifespans and can literally reproduce at the rate of mass production; is killing each other constantly and getting preyed on by every other civilization around them a survival mechanism to prevent overpopulation?
Within the first 10 minutes, you've convinced me that Hasbro is the most manipulative and cunning civilization to exist.
"Megatron is a wimp!"
"So is star scream!"
"Yes but I'm fast!"
That's a great line 😂
When artificial intelligence...isn't.
artificial uninteligence.
Artificial idtelligence
There more a then I
Artificial Idiots
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Yep, they are stupid, lol.
Ah, lol...Love the Transformers...soooo gooood...hehe
My favorite part is Megatron leaves cybertron to find another energy source and tells Shockwave to hold down the fort till he gets back. They crash onto Earth and wake up like 4 million years later and Shockwave isn't worried a bit. Doesn't even stand out that they are gone that long. Like it was yesterday.....lol
I really do love this series. So much fun going after weird and dumb sci-fi civilizations. Plus the great quips from mostly Tuvok helps a lot. Thanks for another fun video to watch.
The Tuvok cuts make my day
Carbombya! A nation with a long tradition, dating back centuries... of eating high carb diets.
Carb om bya?!
@@ChineduOpara Literally everyone got that reference. It was a joke.
"Soundwave, prepare to receive!"
-Megatron
Uuuuuh . . . This was quite possibly the most on the nose homoerotic innuendo phrase ever said in a kids cartoon series.
In more ways than one to boot! lol!
Megatron x Soundwave OTP, with Starscream as their rebellious teenage son. :3
@Wiz So much slash fiction especially on Tumblr, AO3.
Counterpoint
Starscream: [Nightbird]'s not so hot!
Megatron: she's hot enough to replace you whenever I choose!
@@AMinibot HA! I think I kinda actually remember that!!
Good thing the other Continuities kinda flesh the mythos and the two factions.
Maybe they are intentionally engineered to have certain deficiencies.
The Decpticons might be engineered to lack initiative, bad at tactics and unable to work out their own power generation to make them reliant on the Quintasons as leadership.
The autobots lack fighting ability so they can be controlled by the Decepticons or Quintasons through force.
Both factions may intentionally have limited intelligence.
I agree with this theory! I'd also theorize that the Autobots are supposed to be the "Supporting" class for the civilian cybertronians and quintessons and that's why they're all things like haulers, firetrucks, police, ect.
@@SeviathTheHumanDrago IKR, that would also make perfect sense for the Quints to make dumb thugs and intelligent but weak robots (or someone strong, smart but with a horrible weakness). Why create a smart, powerful bot that's good at everything with no crippling flaws only to be a threat to you? Some of the bios' weakness sections are just funny - even most well-rounded characters have massive, even comical weaknesses lol. Blaster's obsession with "new tunes", Jetfire's endless glitches, Prowl and Shockwave completely getting messed up by anything illogical, Onslaught losing his mind over his plans going awry etc.
@@handanyldzhan9232 I also theorize that by this point in the war what we see of the Decepticons and Autobots, at least in G1, are the most elite of the elite warriors, soldiers, and gladiators, from their respective factions. Because if you think about it, in G1 continuity, bumblebee was something Akin to a delivery driver on cybertron right? Wouldn't it have made sense that they have a fleet of mailbot drones exactly like bumblebee? And since they're all drones they shared a hivemind sort of theoretically right? Bumblebee became who he was because he lived through the cons murdering his Clones all over the planet 1 after the other which caused him to become a spy for the Autobots.
I am so excited the only way I can express my exitement is to say I can't put it in words, despite having put them in words just now.
Deception spotted!
Starscream really does puts the deception in decepticons.
Don't forget to vote for Starscream!
Starscream: deception you can count on!
Watching Starscream trying tu usurp Megatron is like watching Wile E. Coyote trying to catch the Road Runner.
@@President_Starscream Will you make Earth great though?
@@dubuyajay9964 of course I will make earth great, for great are those who give of themselves in service of Cybertron and the Decepticon empire!
@@President_Starscream In that sense you are ahead of Galvatron. For you see worth in other lifeforms...even if it's purely materialistic.
It's a cartoon it was designed for kids in the early 80s when cassette tapes were not obsolete
considering you mastered space travel, I think cassette tape are kinda obsolete for you
Soundwave is a ghettoblaster. The Autobots had Blaster also a cassette player. Nowadays they would need usb-stick player for update. Transforming usb-sticks lol.
@@nagash303
Leave the flash drive-formers to Takara Tomy's R&D.
one could argue that if you use the design of something old in something new then it isnt outdated, like the moderns polaroids
Tomatosauce with noodles Soundwave, Blaster and the cassettes have the unfortunate fate of being bots whose alt modes could can never translate well into modern day.
In their defence, the Decepticons and Autobots weren’t military robots. Megaton was a gladiator bot who led a revolt, a bit like Spartacus. He might be decent in an arena, but his knowledge of strategy was limited to what he could learn by doing. Likewise, the Autobots were serving bots an police bots in the days of old Cybertron.
This video is about the original G1 cartoon. Not any of the reboots.
@@sintanan469 Even in the G1 cartoon, the Autobots weren't military robots, and the Decepticons were probably intended to be disposable drones stupid enough to march to their doom.
The Quintessons created the Autobots and Decepticons as two lines of mass-produced *consumer products.*
Sin tanan that is from the G1 cartoon. The episode where the aerialbots go back in time and meet alpha trion.
@@CAP198462 Which is what this video is about. The one you're referencing is eithr Dreamwave or IDW publishing not the TV series at all at.
@@EndoftheBeginning17 it was told that way in the two part episode where the aerial bots use a portal to go back in time to early Cybertron. Don’t remember the title of the episode, but Arcee is in it so it was probably G2?
"If the decepticons got their way they'd destroy the whole universe."
~Jetfire
you ridiculous flesh creature 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Maybe this show is actually an eerily prescient vision of what will happen if brain uploading technology is ever perfected.
They've lived for millions of years, and in theory could live for billions more. Maybe, gazing into the abyss of such a vast amount of time, they realized that the true challenge of their existence will be to ever find a way to fill so many years. How will they ever find meaning? How will they hold off boredom and ennui for century after century after century? With an endless war and constant petty drama, that's how. Of course they interrupt their battles to give melodramatic speeches and always conveniently fail to finish things off - the whole point of the war is to make themselves feel relevant in the face of uncaring eternity.
Bruh
This explains G1 perfectly.
Big philosophy moment right here
Bruh
that is a possible scenario of brain uploading its reletivly recent and i like to call it the high gaming scenario aka basically a immortal digital humanity would merely spread out and treat the solid world as a game recreating entertainment basically like ready player one fused with the matrix but the pod humans CONTROll the robots.
"They are pretty much just fighting for their next meal"
Megatron: "I gotta have a good meal!
I eat, Optimus, it's what I do."
I just realized that Lazerbeak and Ratbat are among the most competent Decepticons in all Transformers continuity.
And Soundwave, especially by proxy due to being the commander of the cassettes.
Low hanging fruit, nah. Go after He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. Then we'll talk.
AJ Jones Lol
Or Cobra
Do GI Joe
Or they remember the 80's cartoon.
@Frizzurd I can't remember most about the thundercat but I love that cartoon.
Speaking of giant robots (and toy commercials), could we get a villains to stupid to win on Zeon from Mobile Suit Gundam's UC series?
I resent that.
To be honest, they might have stood a chance, if it wasn't for Char undermining everything, or in The Origin, Kacylia literally betraying them on the cusp of victory and ensuring an unwinnable, unending war for absolutely no other reason than she was butt-mad.
@@kauske There were many problems. Logistics, resources, manpower. And as you say, political instability.
@Kotor
That doesn't matter though, not in the new canon. They had won, the Federation was going to surrender and make Zeon a legitimate sovereign nation. Then Kacylia let Revil go, and he blew the whistle that Zeon was exhausted after their first push and would lose if they kept up.
If you don't blame it on Char's sabotage, Kacylia surely gets the blame. Char killing Garma basically took the fight out of Degwin anyhow. Then bloody Gihren blows up half their fleet at a time of dire need, and gets killed by Kacylia. The whole family was trying to run their own master-plan for domination.
And that secret gambit pile-up snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, hands down. They also punished the actually capable officers, since they feared losing power to them. But the whole thing is just the story of how WWII went, but in space. :V
@@kauske well you explained what I summed up. Political instability, exhausted resources, etc.
Heh, Megatron/Galvatron is actually quite like how 40k fans have long seen Abaddon the Despoiler.
megatron would at least say "yo pull of the planet we've lost so I'm just gonna blow it up" unlike the armless failure
Great to see the series back: How about the Forerunners or Covenant from Halo next?
to be fare to the Forerunners the flood on the rings was meant to be destroyed after they fired but the destruction order never got to the labs becuse the rings fire disrupted the signal
@@zeonthefox no, it's mentioned in the CEA terminals that the monitors were to experiment on the Flood in the hopes of finding a cure for the Reclaimers to use. Also there were lots of other ways they're stupid.
While I am a Halo fan I must say, some of the stuff the Forerunners do is quite contradictory. Of Course, it is nowhere like Psychlol levels of stupidity, but being hugely advanced with understanding of biology and all other sciences, and failing to identify the threat of the Flood before demilitarising? Yeah. The Covenant are not that stupid, after all they Roflstomped humanity for 28 years pretty much, and they are not ignorant in the traditional sense, as the member species are mislead by the Prophets, who do know the truth, but withhold it from the public. Either way, If MediaZealot would do it I would watch it anyway!
@@benhooper1956 the reason the Covenant stomped Humanity is because of superior ships with shields and glassing beams. The reason Humanity won ground battles was down to Spartans and the fact that standard Covenant commanders had piss poor tactics.
@@Jedi_Spartan Yes, a valid point, but I must remind you that ground battles were often won at huge cost, with or without spartans
You know, I'm reminded of a joke at the end of the Revenge of the Fallen DS game when you talk about Deception Leadership.
At the end of the game the Fallen makes you custombot the new leader cause your semi competent. At this point even the franchise is aware that the Deception leader are as useful as a sack of rocks
Omg old school Megatron turned into a gun???
This video is fucking brilliant lol
I love how much you ripped on the villains haha
I chuckled when Optimus Primes called humans "Primitive and violent" in thr first transformers movie, forgetting how his own race has became "primitive and violent"
That was Ironhide that said thus line actually.
I would love to hear your rundown of the comic continuity. It definitely shed the marketing mandate and (handwave-y as it is) came up with excellent explanations for various quirks, and is an awesome story besides. It ends up being a most human story despite its origins.
I just found this channel last night. It's quickly becoming my favorite new channel. I like someone is calling out all these dumb bad guys
There’s a Tuvok quote for everything!
Transformers: War for Cybertron and then Fall of Cybertron were incredible games and probably were the peak of my transformers interest
Me too.
RG 12 same
Gentleman, may you live good lives.
Loved playing fall of cybertron on the ps3
@@lucasbeck1391 it was a truly great game. Both of them were. It’s a shame that we’ll probably never get games like them
25:05 - The part about Starscream formerly being a scientist and your excellent and hilarious commentary had me rolling around laughing
This was by far my favorite cartoon growing up & yes even when I watched it I could see many of the issues that Media Zealot highlighted but regardless he said one important thing that no matter what they will always be cool
I just want to make everyone notice that Megatron's origin in Season 3 shows him being assembled by the Constructicons, while in season 1 Megatron says he created the Constructicons on Earth.
So who came first? The chicken or the egg?
And then in season 2 the Consructicons were autobots reprogrammed by Megatron on Cybertron. Continuity was not the show's strong point.
@@PresleyPerswain other constructicons you had lots of transformers who looked liked each other megs had thousands of seekers and reflector bots and on war dawn all his drones looked the same so im guessing since it was eight constricticons shown they must have built megs and the the six constructicins we know besr are the ones megatron recruited
maybe it's a time loop paradox
Yeah that’s a common debate
Currently the theory is the 8 constructions created decepticons such as megatron but where pretty neutral and had a friendship with omega supreme unfortunately megatron unleashed a device on 6 of them that can reprogram cybertronians (this is shown in the show in the secrets of omega supreme) and this gave them the power to combine and ended up fighting omega supreme before they went into space and crash landed on earth before the ark did (similar to jetfire/skyfire while omega supreme attempted to follow them
Around the tube if heavy metal was the constructicons ship was found but the crash destroyed there bodies in a way that made repair near impossible so instead megatron rebuilt them using earth materials (as shown by the lack of cybertonian decay in desertion of the dinoboys) somewhat similar to how starscream resurrected the combaticons
adult jokes in child shows are great! children never got them and wil never get them, but we can laugh at it
Eugene InLaw I had to pause the vid because my husband was laughing so hard and long after Optimus said ‘Butt Plug’.
Freudian subliminal messages
Seeing all their irrational goals and extremely emotional motives nitpicked just makes me love the show even more! They may be short sighted, but that's why we love them X3
Please do one of these for the original GIJoe cartoon.
The Cobras are just as incompetent as the Decepticons.
It only makes sense he's going to do them next
@@tureytaino2785 Their tech was as good as G.I. Joe and even sometimes better. I always wondered where they got the money to buy the stuff they used. Who was funding them? Where was their factories? They had an army like that of a a decent sized country, and yet always were all over the world. I know they were called terorists in the show/comics, least that is what I remembered.
@@marclytle644 the coke brothers funded them
@Justin Last Israel.
To make sure your brain isn't fryed by alien robots, try out Transformers Animated (2007). The continuity is cleaner, while still having all of the power struggles that both Autobots and Decepticons have. Humans also protest against the cybertronians, making them a "third party", or atleast a nuetral center
It´s like after eons of war, they started to be glitchy or something, maybe they were really not created to have free will: if they weren´t on a endelss civil war, they could be dangerous for everything else in their universe.
Actually this is the simplest explanation. They would be indeed unstoppable otherwise. TF Prime also provides the only rational explanation why they are even interested in Earth. Earth = Unicron
@@rashakor They didn't even know about Unicron till Season 2.
Megatron thought Unicron was a different planet entirely
Hey my favorite UA-camr is back! Let get this series rolling again!
In defence of Starscream, he is the leader of the Seekers. A team made up of Starscream, Ramjet, Skywarp and Thundercracker who were scientists before the war. Starscream was, as Megatron says, the one who comes up with many of the super weapon ideas.
I'm going to make a toaster that cries in the morning when everyone leaves and the dogs are going to have to learn to deal with it.
Crying blue tooth enabled Android toaster will need an enemy and the dogs will do the trick. The only ability beyond toast for the... Toaster will be crying and shouting "Megatron!" in various degrees of whiny child.
This will not only fill but also sooth my 80s cartoon needs in an adult way.
Madness Plague episode appears to have cured him from his madness and he left appearing to be quiet and competent.
To be fair, this is a kid’s cartoon from the 80s - I don’t think that the writers put more thought than “would a 7-year-old think this is cool?” into the details of the story...
The media zealot took it so easy on the transformers - there were many more insults to them made so obvious just with the clips in the video (its long enough though). Nice job on this - really fun!
I was actually mad at first but after watching this happens to be the best Transformers explanation video ever FUNNY YET FANTASTIC WORK KEEP IT UP :)
Megatron: "I have morons on my team!"
Cobra Commander: "Morons! I have MORONS on my payroll!"
same stupidity, different factions
Hey MediaZealot! I really enjoy your videos, and look forward to each new one! Keep up the great work!
Hey, I'll have you know Carbombya is a proud and respected nation!
Do the Imperium of Man from 40k next. Its a wonder how this civilization survived for over 10,000 years with its plethora of problems
Good analysis and absolutely brilliant editing.
Aw shit here we go again.
YEEEEES FINALY BACK.
Omfg Carbombya, it’s like a bad xbox gamertag.
It's the reason Casey Kasem left the show.
I love TF but this video was hilarious. The true reason the villains lose though is because you couldn't have evil winning on a kid's show.
My god those guys were all horrible. Im still a fan though.
The Cylons of the first Battlestar Galactica series
The Covenant from Halo (Too stupid to win. I can explain)
Ko-Dan Empire from The Last Starfighter
Yep. That's all I can think of.
I love these videos.
In the defense of the outdated models they transform into: in 1984 those models were actually modern.
About the transition from Megatron to Galvatron yes it is obviously that he became unhinged at some point during the end of the movie or after.
True Megatron is a classical theatrical villain and it is a question if he may be just as clichéd or even worse than Ming.
The comic though is/was superior in that it evolved and aged better than the cartoon.
Transformers the movie was clearly a culmination as it was daring in killing off so many characters popular ones at that...
I can't wait for epiusode 2 of this installment and after that please do one about Action Force/G.I.JOE cartoon for that cartoon's cheesy sillyness deserves a severe ripping...
Given upgrades and overhauls like the F-15E and the brand new (as of date of comment) F-15EX, you could make a strong argument G1 Starscream is STILL modern.
@@wolfgangervin2582 Indeed. I love the F15 period it looks cool and it can actually kick some arse.
I think Megatron keeps Starscream around as his lieutenant because he knows Starscream is a self-serving, traitorous man-child, but is also far too incompetent to actually manage to do anything to take control properly. Anyone else who could take Starscream's position would ultimately be far more competent and would probably be successful in a mutiny, so, even if they're completely loyal, Megatron is far too paranoid to allow anyone more competent than Starscream to be so close to him.
Hence why slag hits the fan whenever Shockwave becomes second-in-command?
@@autobotstarscream765 _Exactly._
Well the Decepticons usually try to do stupid evil stuff while the Autobots try to stop them from doing all of this.
Edit: Galvatron's madness might be the result of his plasma bath.
Edit 2: It's definitively the plasma bath.
I missed this series. It's one of my favorites on youtube.
Softest target? Boi. Cobra.
This is gonna got me right in the feels, it’ll hurt but at least I get to hear you make me laugh again.
3:25 - 3:39 Thank you for giving voice to our tiny cries of past indignation.
I need that clip of Starscream saying to Devistator, "Yes, but I'm fast..."
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I truly like the way you describe this stuff without being to repetitive and using non amateur vocabulary makes your Content professional and worth watching over again to listen to a point . Most big youTuber channels can't pull that off makes it feel like I'm watching a big kid for example
I read a short fic once that addresses the lack of killings pre movie.....everyone’s weapon’s safety was on. Then someone noticed, and thus childhood scarring movie. It makes sense.
All of your criticisms are valid but I will never stop loving G1
I always thought in g1 someone was gonna crush megatron in his gun mode
Shrinking gives him SUPER high armour class
this show has so many memes, omfg
*I have morons on my team!*
Prime , beast wars and animated were the best ones in the entire franchise. Especially prime has logical themes and mature story.
Agreed
Agree!
In terms of comics, I find the IDW continuity pretty good as well. It successfully fleshed out old and new characters, as well as lore.
@@TheDONing1 I like IDW, but I hate what Simon Furman did to Arcee.
@@ninjaformer5889 Oh, yeah.....
Yeah, that shit's fucked up.
Man I really LOVE how you deliver your lines. Angry and tired at the same time. Like you care, and don't care at the same time, but at last moment you care just the smallest amount !
Thanks !!
This is childhood memory shuttering LoL, will not be able to watch the same way again lol. The leadership is the ultimate source of the problem.
Hence why it suddendly MAKES SENSE that Galvatron was so "Zealot Crusader" about the posible existence of an _alternate_ "Matrix of Leadership" for the Decepticons [it is basically the only thing that they really need to finally END their war].
-> Bonus points for being "hinted" by the creators of the Transformers.
In Phelous' review of the G1 series, he pointed out that he felt that Starscream's performance in the episode The Search for Alpha Trion showed why he was second-in-command of the Decepticons! Mind you Phelous may be a little biased cause Starscream is admittedly his favorite, though he does make a decent point! Sure Starscream's backstabbing and/or undermining of Megatron may be a detriment to them but then again the Decepticons are already prone to backstabbing anyway!
I personally think Megatron keeps Starscream around as someone to blame his failures upon & the fact that Starscream is somewhat competent when he's not trying to usurp Megatron! Also it could retroactively have something to do with Starscream's mutated spark (according to Beast Wars, Starscream was able to survive death due to having a mutation that made his Spark effectively immortal)!
My theory is that StarScream is a undercover agent... There's no way he is that big of a liability by accident.
Admittedly given the drive of the decepticons obsession with destruction, conquest and conflict it doesn't surprise me that Megatron would Keep Starscream around. It may simply be to keep Megatron sharp and on his toes.
I love your channel Zealot! It's both informative and hilarious!