LOL! Controversial? This is the best series by far! Buying the train and the 2 castle sets. We don't need more castles. We need sets for a village and this is a seaside port. Lego has never made one before.
Agree!!!! I'm on the fence about the boat, but I'll order 2 copies of the train and each of the castle sets. I'll probably also have my kids order 1-2 extra siege encampments for me (you need a large siege camp).
See, I think you're proving my point that it's controversial! Some people are saying that this is the best wave, others are saying it's the "Castle Designer Program" and then others in the middle. Regardless, I'm glad to be saving some money, but also equally as glad for those that are pumped about this wave!
@@cpafol Having different tastes and liking different things does not make something controversial. I didn't buy anything in the last series. I didn't call it controversial. Lego ha many themes and many entries and they can't please everyone, every time.
Agreed 100%. Not sure why so many people are complaining. We have three beautiful sets (train, market, and seige). If you're a castle fan, the seige encampment is a must because it compliments all castle sets. Can't have a seige without it.
@@cpafoltechnically every series is controversial but this is far from the most. Historically, castle themes sell very quickly… like we are talking within hours and I don’t see this series being any different. Also, like someone mentioned above, it’s not another castle we’re getting but sets that complement them which is missing up till this point. Then we have the locomotive set which draws both train and western fans. If the remaining two sets would be replaced with a food truck and nature themed, this would have been the most all around series.
Seige Encampment: I don't see how anyone can be a castle fan and not purchase this. It's the accessory kit that compliments every castle. I will be purchasing 2x Seaside Market: The new revision looks way better than the original submission. Will be purchasing 1x, maybe 2x copies. Train: This set looks great. Will purchase 2x for sure and combine them for a massive moc. ..... the other two I really don't care for.
I love the idea for a modular castle build, and the dock castle is definitely my favorite of the wave. That being said, I wish they'd pick some more affordable designs, but I might not be the target audience haha. Great video!
The designs are actually chosen by the Fans! With some judgmental decisions made so that every set isn't 4,000 parts and a castle (because that's what the fans typically vote for haha). But there are some upcoming waves with cheaper sets! It'll be fun to see how those prices pan out.
@@cpafolis it though? Fans vote for ideas up until it reaches 10K, then it is up to LEGO to choose which one they want to release. To be fairly honest getting 10k likes today is not that difficult, seeing AFOLs will vote for anything LEGO related
I'm by no means a Castle fan either but out of this wave the Seaside Market would be the one I would go for. Also can't deny the beauty of the Siege Encampment next to other existing sets, thankfully for my wallet I'm not a Castle fan otherwise I'd be cooked 😅 Also you make a great pointy about how different these look with lighting as opposed to renders! So much more appealing to me too
Medieval Seaside Market does have that certain simple charm; more reminiscent to something that might actually end up on LEGO shelves honestly! My wallet is also glad😅 Not only the real photos make a difference, but seeing the in person reviews does so much more to let us know what the final design will actually look like! Oftentimes sets being a ton bigger in person than I would have ever expected, and normally the price justified.
As a castle fan my wallet is not ready for what I am about to do to it on the 4th of February… I am probably buying 2 of each or at minimum two sets of the sea side market place (the alt builds are great) and one set of siege encampment.
WOW! That's going to be a fun day for you! The best part is they don't hit your card until shipping so you'll have a fun little surprise on your bank statement in late August 😂. In future Series, it's definitely going to hurt me as well
@ hahaha that is true! Although I will need to keep a note of that for August 😂 and yeah Lego be hurting all our wallets. At least I can sit series 5 down personally even though it has some great sets, I just don’t have the space for them and I have to prioritise castle :)
So yeah tbh I'm going to get the Siege Encampment. Imo it's simply great and I was waiting for more than a decade for something like this. And heck yeah the comparison pictures help😂
I hadn't heard a ton of rumble over Siege Encampment back several months ago, but what I did hear wasn't all too positive. Now that we have the official images next to retail LEGO sets, the tide has certainly turned and people are praising this set! It will be a wonderful "expansion pack" addition to any castle fan.
I've passed on all the previous train sets, but this time I'm kinda intrigued by this, and I know what goes into making a set and making instructions so I'm excited for that one! Probably will get the castle set too as its modular and different from previous ones. I think @lego needs to start thinking about bringing back the Castle line!
You're spot on with the Wild West Train. That train is an amazing design, and I love how they made it even better by adding the story element of the train robbery. Super fun! Once the kiddos start to love castle again, LEGO will certainly bring it back to shelves! Right now it's basically all Ninjago and Star Wars with castle not even a thought for kids. Either way, castle fans have the BDP to satiate those needs. As a BIONICLE fan, I'm over here starving...🤣
I was planning to buy 2 sets of siege from the beginning and put siege to lion castle on my display. Final look is even better and swapping colors is perfect idea! I have winter fortress and this set will be besieged too :) I'm thinking about seaside market to add to lions castle (it has water area so it should fit perfect) and train ofcourse to add them to western series from 1996 :) So for me it will be the most expensive series of BDP :)
It's so cool that all the castle fans will be able to have all their favorite sets be seiged by either the Black Falcons or Lion Knights! I definitely understand that not every set is for me and am always happy by those that have a clean sweep of a Series. Happy building!
Oh, I think the controversy should be that this siege engine kit is made to go with a very popular set the Lions knight castle. Which I am sure more than 30,000 copies have been sold. more like a million. So few will get to build on that experience. Something like this should have been upgraded to an ideas set. I do not like seeing this advertised with the castle knowing I wont get it because even though it may be well designed, the minis are more of the same and even a bit weird and overall its over priced for not having any special pieces or RND for LEGO. The whole set represents what castle fans have wanted all along which is several small builds/ battle packs. Which is this like 4-5 of.... Castle is so hot right now and it seems castle is just a subtheme of bricklink designers program, that really should be put to better use on more artful things instead of LEGO IP. The Docks are another great Idea but its too much build and not enough boat for me. It needs a decent sized Kogg. The Train though is quite interesting... looks like a lot of fun.
I appreciate your deep dive thoughts on these sets! And agree for the most part, although LEGO will likely never bring back Castle because the kiddos aren't into LEGO Castle at all nowadays. That being said, the 18+ series should be ripe for them! For the time being, Bricklink and LEGO are very separate in many respects, and the only thing LEGO can do is say "No, don't make that because we are going to eventually make it". Otherwise, Bricklink does its own thing. It'll be interesting if LEGO ever does take some hints from the BDP on future sets.
@@cpafol Kids aren't into castle anymore? I disagree. how is that even tested? All castle sets today are geared to adults, at high price tags, GWP scarcity, or CMF unbalances, and even getting one fig with no context is not going to be much. Kids have little access to the market, and it crumbled when castle got too weird instead of just doing more along the lines like they are now with more city life0. So many themes are based on medieval/ fantasy IP that closely relate. I think the difference here is what is being stolen from children is the imagination. Yes, because IP sets recreate scenes and naturally those scenes are reenacted in play. Whereas the classic themes as children gave us almost no back story to any faction. The stories were pure and (speaking in hyperbolic) more inventive. Characters needed their own forging. If I were a parent today I would be focusing my attention to that. Ironically as a kid building Star Wars x-wings our of city parts to now sometimes take IP parts made into castle. There is room for both of course, I get excited for Star wars fans unveilings, the Jabbas sail barge was almost enough to get me to buy! its just super awesome sets like this should be more accessible as I pretty much want to steer clear from that other system that makes basic bricks collectors items because its trapped in a box. It has many problems.... but that is for another time. Peace. ty for discussing
@@jacobe1942 Unfortunately kids don't have to have as much imagination now as when they used to "back in the day". Show a kid a brown and grey castle set or show them a bright vibrant Ninjago set. We both know which one they're choosing. LEGO has tested this themselves and it's evident through what we see on shelves. Adults are the main consumers buying castle so that is who they are gearing any castle towards. I didn't have a smart phone until I was in college; kids nowadays are getting one at 10 or less. No need for imagination when you have that. Whether anyone likes it or not, it's the way of the world: bright, vibrant, and flashy sells.
@@cpafol A parents job is to know better.... A lions knight castle is a full story in a box for all ages and sexes and is timeless. It is big beautiful, vibrant. Ninjago is not Star Wars but still a recognizable show and characters to most and has a full range of sets from $5 dollars to $400ish. Castle has none of that. Lions knight castle is worthy as a legacy heirloom... Yeah I do not like that direction... and it does not have to be that way, kids and adults would like smaller sets of battle packs that could have made this siege encampment. There is tons of fun in these sets. and LEGO makes some very questionable stuff that it aught to do its classic lines right.
I‘m a huge castle fan. So I really like the Medieval Seaside market and will most likely get it. Originally i wanted to pass on the Siege Encampment because it was missing Minifigs and did not really catch me. Now I am still not a 100% sure. I like that the hugely increased the number of Minifigs but the price I don’t know. Let’s see. I got my self the medieval town square for Christmas and the Forest Stronghold will arrive in March. Also Series 5 with the adventures in Transylvania set will be a sure buy for me, and I expect this to come in at 350 to 400 EURO also in series 6 the Wolfpack set will be a sure buy that will also be in the 200 to 300 EURO range so already a quite expensive year. And there is also this creator 3 in 1 dragon and maybe the new castle that will come out in Summer. My bank account is already crying and I am running out of shelf space to be honest.
Castle fans are SURELY not missing for an amazing array of sets from which to choose! While the BDP is pulling most of that weight, it's interesting to see the other options you've laid out in your comment, some of which I hadn't thought until now. I'm certainly happy that the castle fans are eating well! Your wallet is crying while my wallet is taking a much needed break 😂
I think you are judging castle sets too harshly. They don't have to be creative, they just have to work. I for one LOVE the 2 in this series (especially since they are not $400 ). I would rather have castle in the normal LEGO offering, but that's not the cast atm. These sets here are really NEEDED. And yes, it does help to have the sets intertwin with things I already have. I got 5 Lion Knights castles just because I saw LEGO didn't do anything relevant so I said might as well get the one set they made well. If they would sell an entire series of village pieces, towers, extra stables and god knows what that go around the HUGE castle, I would clearly be more likely to buy them. However, the factions being the old 90s factions, that's what are selling these for me (and of course the fact that the redesigns are GREAT ) .
I can certainly agree that I am being quite harsh on these castles because I'm not a huge castle person myself, but that being said, I LOVED the Mountain Fortress as it was super creative and had an amazing design and footprint. The two in this series didn't strike me as such. We'll see if LEGO can take some notes from the BDP and bring some castles to the fans! The only main people is that it's by and large the ADULT fans that love the castle, but the kids not so much /: And we all know that the kids (or adults buying for kids) are the consumers that drive the sales!
@@cpafol They seem to have an AFOL market as well. there are more and more AFOL sets coming out. They just need to stop making mistakes (for example the blacktron renegade is perfect ... the town square had so many stickers, it's not even funny .... they seem to think people who pay 100-200-500 euro on a set want stickers ... ) Regardless, these sets are really good and important. You can't have only huge castles - although those seem to be the most popular.. These 2 in series 4 are cheaper and even if the port is less fancy, I like what it does - something new for castle. The siege camp should have been a normal series of sets, each item their own little set so you can buy as many as you like: Trebuchet x2, Siege tower x3, cooking camp x1 , big tent x3, small tent x10, and a small battlepack with the anti cavalery spikes to get 100 of. Still, this here is better than not having it at all, and people keep voting for these because they don't have alternatives. Just look at which ones actually sell out the quickest or at all.
I answered this in another comment so I will copy/paste my comment here to explain! "It is quite well know and communicated by Bricklink that they choose only ONE design from each category for each Series. That is until this series. So no, it's not controversial because I'm not a castle fan; it's controversial because the BDP contradicted its own stated guidelines with this series. Now, since my initial video, I have had various conversations with Bricklink reps to understand why they made that decision and now fully understand why it had to be done and how it was reasonable. However, not everyone has had those conversations which is why this Series is still looked at as controversial by the broader community. Hope this helps as to why I denoted this Series as controversial and not just trying to say that because, "I didn't like the designs"."
Only interested in castle and pirate, but don't like the siege encampment. Need more castles! :) I agree they make some weird choices though within the castle entries.
Interesting! I've heard a resounding positive wave for the Siege Encampment across the board, but I can certainly see how one would not prefer to swallow that price tag. Either way, more castle and pirate to come in future waves!
Imo, if you're a castle fan, the seige encampment is a must. It compliments every castle set. You need a set like this to have seiges between different factions.
This is where I'm at too! The Merchant Boat is a fun one, but man do I need to save up for that expensive Adventures in Transylvania! The wallet can only stretch so thin
How having 2 castle set in Bricklink Designer Program controversial? How many us castle fans have new castle set in a year from Lego? 1? or 2 at most. And how many new sets, other Lego themes did Lego introduce? City probably have more than 20 new set this month only, Starwars, marvel/disney also has a ton of new sets this month only. BDP is the only way we get new castle set outside of only 1 new official Lego set per year. The closest to castle set, is Lord of the Rings set which usually only have 1 ultra expensive set every year. There are a lot castle fan, yet there are not many option from Lego official sets 😓
As mentioned in another reply, it is controversial because the BDP's own guidelines state, and it is widely communicated, that they will always choose only ONE design from each Series. This Series saw two designs chosen from one category. Hence the controversy. Since my video 9 months ago, I have had various conversations with Bricklink reps and understood why they made that decision and how it was reasonable. However, the broader community hasn't had those discussions so this Series still has some controversy for many. As far as comparing the BDP to LEGO retail sets, that's not an apples to apples comparison. If you look at Castle as a whole, any LEGO fan has had many, many offerings over the past 5 years with more, no doubt, to come. Is there a castle theme out there? No. Why you ask? Simple! Kids don't want castle anymore. So while us BIONICLE fans are starving over here, the Castle/Train fans are eating quite well comparatively. Hope that explanation helps!
Hmm that's a tough question, but I think they both will hit huge spikes early and fast, and then level out. I believe the Siege Encampment has the best chance of selling out because it's a literal army building set and enough of the Castle AFOLs are middle-aged folks with lots of disposable income. I'm excited to watch this one from an outside perspective as I will not be preordering any! It's going to be a fun one 🙏🏻
The price and scattering of small builds makes me not want to get the siege encampment. If anything the pictures of the siege tower next to the castles makes me just want to try to build that
It will be interesting to see what people do with the Siege Encampment, if it sells out, or if people ramp it up to fit a wider footprint. I've already seen other commenters talk about buying multiple to make a huge encampment! Regardless, it's a pass for me.
I don't see how the designer can have a seige encampment set that is one build. It's basically a large accessory kit that is essential to all castles. Can't really have a seige without it.
It doesn't need to be just one build. I think it would have been better if it just focused on the siege equipment and not all the tents and stalls. Maybe give up 2 siege engines, a bigger archer barricade etc. could have reduced the cost a bit as well
It's not even about hate, it's more about the fact that this Series unfortunately had to break the rules because of external circumstances. I always try to keep my personal tastes out of these kinds of things! But I'm certainly glad for those that enjoy these types of builds!
It does seem a bit steep and would have been nice to get closer to $199.99 on that price point. However, between the part count and updated minifigure count, I'm certain it was never going to get there 😢
I originally was ALL in on the boat! It's such a fun, unique, whimsical design. However, the wallet is hurting after several of the recent BDP rounds so I must use better judgment an pass on designs that I'm not fully passionate about. That will be a fun pickup though!
Two Castles? What is Riverside Scholars but a Medieval building with towers...so castle? There is at least 2.5 castle here, if not 3 castles. Well I saved a big stash of cash this time...and next time...and the time after that.
I wouldn't call Riverside Scholars a castle as I believe it either fell under the "Building" or "Fantasy" categories. Regardless, our conclusions are both the same as both of our wallets will be taking a much needed break!
LOL! Controversial? This is the best series by far! Buying the train and the 2 castle sets. We don't need more castles. We need sets for a village and this is a seaside port. Lego has never made one before.
Agree!!!! I'm on the fence about the boat, but I'll order 2 copies of the train and each of the castle sets. I'll probably also have my kids order 1-2 extra siege encampments for me (you need a large siege camp).
See, I think you're proving my point that it's controversial! Some people are saying that this is the best wave, others are saying it's the "Castle Designer Program" and then others in the middle. Regardless, I'm glad to be saving some money, but also equally as glad for those that are pumped about this wave!
@@cpafol Having different tastes and liking different things does not make something controversial. I didn't buy anything in the last series. I didn't call it controversial. Lego ha many themes and many entries and they can't please everyone, every time.
Agreed 100%. Not sure why so many people are complaining. We have three beautiful sets (train, market, and seige). If you're a castle fan, the seige encampment is a must because it compliments all castle sets. Can't have a seige without it.
@@cpafoltechnically every series is controversial but this is far from the most. Historically, castle themes sell very quickly… like we are talking within hours and I don’t see this series being any different. Also, like someone mentioned above, it’s not another castle we’re getting but sets that complement them which is missing up till this point. Then we have the locomotive set which draws both train and western fans. If the remaining two sets would be replaced with a food truck and nature themed, this would have been the most all around series.
Seige Encampment: I don't see how anyone can be a castle fan and not purchase this. It's the accessory kit that compliments every castle. I will be purchasing 2x
Seaside Market: The new revision looks way better than the original submission. Will be purchasing 1x, maybe 2x copies.
Train: This set looks great. Will purchase 2x for sure and combine them for a massive moc.
..... the other two I really don't care for.
I love the idea for a modular castle build, and the dock castle is definitely my favorite of the wave. That being said, I wish they'd pick some more affordable designs, but I might not be the target audience haha. Great video!
The designs are actually chosen by the Fans! With some judgmental decisions made so that every set isn't 4,000 parts and a castle (because that's what the fans typically vote for haha).
But there are some upcoming waves with cheaper sets! It'll be fun to see how those prices pan out.
@ that’s exciting to hear. I’ll be looking forward to it!
@@cpafolis it though? Fans vote for ideas up until it reaches 10K, then it is up to LEGO to choose which one they want to release.
To be fairly honest getting 10k likes today is not that difficult, seeing AFOLs will vote for anything LEGO related
I'm by no means a Castle fan either but out of this wave the Seaside Market would be the one I would go for. Also can't deny the beauty of the Siege Encampment next to other existing sets, thankfully for my wallet I'm not a Castle fan otherwise I'd be cooked 😅
Also you make a great pointy about how different these look with lighting as opposed to renders! So much more appealing to me too
Medieval Seaside Market does have that certain simple charm; more reminiscent to something that might actually end up on LEGO shelves honestly! My wallet is also glad😅
Not only the real photos make a difference, but seeing the in person reviews does so much more to let us know what the final design will actually look like! Oftentimes sets being a ton bigger in person than I would have ever expected, and normally the price justified.
Nice to see the designs next to standard sets for scale.
I do agree that helps a TON! Even got me thinking twice about the Siege Encampment 👀
As a castle fan my wallet is not ready for what I am about to do to it on the 4th of February… I am probably buying 2 of each or at minimum two sets of the sea side market place (the alt builds are great) and one set of siege encampment.
WOW! That's going to be a fun day for you! The best part is they don't hit your card until shipping so you'll have a fun little surprise on your bank statement in late August 😂. In future Series, it's definitely going to hurt me as well
@ hahaha that is true! Although I will need to keep a note of that for August 😂 and yeah Lego be hurting all our wallets. At least I can sit series 5 down personally even though it has some great sets, I just don’t have the space for them and I have to prioritise castle :)
This time they didn't even bother including smaller sets.
I suppose it's what the people wanted, but I do think it's nice to get those small ones on the regular.
So yeah tbh I'm going to get the Siege Encampment. Imo it's simply great and I was waiting for more than a decade for something like this. And heck yeah the comparison pictures help😂
I hadn't heard a ton of rumble over Siege Encampment back several months ago, but what I did hear wasn't all too positive.
Now that we have the official images next to retail LEGO sets, the tide has certainly turned and people are praising this set! It will be a wonderful "expansion pack" addition to any castle fan.
Agreed 100%. We already have a few large castles. This is the large accessory kit that ties everything together. Can't have a seige without it.
I've passed on all the previous train sets, but this time I'm kinda intrigued by this, and I know what goes into making a set and making instructions so I'm excited for that one! Probably will get the castle set too as its modular and different from previous ones. I think @lego needs to start thinking about bringing back the Castle line!
You're spot on with the Wild West Train. That train is an amazing design, and I love how they made it even better by adding the story element of the train robbery. Super fun!
Once the kiddos start to love castle again, LEGO will certainly bring it back to shelves! Right now it's basically all Ninjago and Star Wars with castle not even a thought for kids. Either way, castle fans have the BDP to satiate those needs.
As a BIONICLE fan, I'm over here starving...🤣
I was planning to buy 2 sets of siege from the beginning and put siege to lion castle on my display. Final look is even better and swapping colors is perfect idea! I have winter fortress and this set will be besieged too :) I'm thinking about seaside market to add to lions castle (it has water area so it should fit perfect) and train ofcourse to add them to western series from 1996 :) So for me it will be the most expensive series of BDP :)
It's so cool that all the castle fans will be able to have all their favorite sets be seiged by either the Black Falcons or Lion Knights! I definitely understand that not every set is for me and am always happy by those that have a clean sweep of a Series.
Happy building!
Oh, I think the controversy should be that this siege engine kit is made to go with a very popular set the Lions knight castle. Which I am sure more than 30,000 copies have been sold. more like a million. So few will get to build on that experience. Something like this should have been upgraded to an ideas set. I do not like seeing this advertised with the castle knowing I wont get it because even though it may be well designed, the minis are more of the same and even a bit weird and overall its over priced for not having any special pieces or RND for LEGO. The whole set represents what castle fans have wanted all along which is several small builds/ battle packs. Which is this like 4-5 of.... Castle is so hot right now and it seems castle is just a subtheme of bricklink designers program, that really should be put to better use on more artful things instead of LEGO IP. The Docks are another great Idea but its too much build and not enough boat for me. It needs a decent sized Kogg. The Train though is quite interesting... looks like a lot of fun.
I appreciate your deep dive thoughts on these sets! And agree for the most part, although LEGO will likely never bring back Castle because the kiddos aren't into LEGO Castle at all nowadays. That being said, the 18+ series should be ripe for them!
For the time being, Bricklink and LEGO are very separate in many respects, and the only thing LEGO can do is say "No, don't make that because we are going to eventually make it". Otherwise, Bricklink does its own thing. It'll be interesting if LEGO ever does take some hints from the BDP on future sets.
@@cpafol Kids aren't into castle anymore? I disagree. how is that even tested? All castle sets today are geared to adults, at high price tags, GWP scarcity, or CMF unbalances, and even getting one fig with no context is not going to be much. Kids have little access to the market, and it crumbled when castle got too weird instead of just doing more along the lines like they are now with more city life0. So many themes are based on medieval/ fantasy IP that closely relate. I think the difference here is what is being stolen from children is the imagination. Yes, because IP sets recreate scenes and naturally those scenes are reenacted in play. Whereas the classic themes as children gave us almost no back story to any faction. The stories were pure and (speaking in hyperbolic) more inventive. Characters needed their own forging. If I were a parent today I would be focusing my attention to that. Ironically as a kid building Star Wars x-wings our of city parts to now sometimes take IP parts made into castle. There is room for both of course, I get excited for Star wars fans unveilings, the Jabbas sail barge was almost enough to get me to buy! its just super awesome sets like this should be more accessible as I pretty much want to steer clear from that other system that makes basic bricks collectors items because its trapped in a box. It has many problems.... but that is for another time. Peace. ty for discussing
@@jacobe1942 Unfortunately kids don't have to have as much imagination now as when they used to "back in the day". Show a kid a brown and grey castle set or show them a bright vibrant Ninjago set. We both know which one they're choosing. LEGO has tested this themselves and it's evident through what we see on shelves. Adults are the main consumers buying castle so that is who they are gearing any castle towards.
I didn't have a smart phone until I was in college; kids nowadays are getting one at 10 or less. No need for imagination when you have that. Whether anyone likes it or not, it's the way of the world: bright, vibrant, and flashy sells.
@@cpafol A parents job is to know better.... A lions knight castle is a full story in a box for all ages and sexes and is timeless. It is big beautiful, vibrant. Ninjago is not Star Wars but still a recognizable show and characters to most and has a full range of sets from $5 dollars to $400ish. Castle has none of that. Lions knight castle is worthy as a legacy heirloom... Yeah I do not like that direction... and it does not have to be that way, kids and adults would like smaller sets of battle packs that could have made this siege encampment. There is tons of fun in these sets. and LEGO makes some very questionable stuff that it aught to do its classic lines right.
I‘m a huge castle fan. So I really like the Medieval Seaside market and will most likely get it. Originally i wanted to pass on the Siege Encampment because it was missing Minifigs and did not really catch me. Now I am still not a 100% sure. I like that the hugely increased the number of Minifigs but the price I don’t know. Let’s see. I got my self the medieval town square for Christmas and the Forest Stronghold will arrive in March. Also Series 5 with the adventures in Transylvania set will be a sure buy for me, and I expect this to come in at 350 to 400 EURO also in series 6 the Wolfpack set will be a sure buy that will also be in the 200 to 300 EURO range so already a quite expensive year. And there is also this creator 3 in 1 dragon and maybe the new castle that will come out in Summer. My bank account is already crying and I am running out of shelf space to be honest.
Castle fans are SURELY not missing for an amazing array of sets from which to choose! While the BDP is pulling most of that weight, it's interesting to see the other options you've laid out in your comment, some of which I hadn't thought until now.
I'm certainly happy that the castle fans are eating well! Your wallet is crying while my wallet is taking a much needed break 😂
I think you are judging castle sets too harshly. They don't have to be creative, they just have to work. I for one LOVE the 2 in this series (especially since they are not $400 ).
I would rather have castle in the normal LEGO offering, but that's not the cast atm. These sets here are really NEEDED.
And yes, it does help to have the sets intertwin with things I already have. I got 5 Lion Knights castles just because I saw LEGO didn't do anything relevant so I said might as well get the one set they made well. If they would sell an entire series of village pieces, towers, extra stables and god knows what that go around the HUGE castle, I would clearly be more likely to buy them. However, the factions being the old 90s factions, that's what are selling these for me (and of course the fact that the redesigns are GREAT ) .
I can certainly agree that I am being quite harsh on these castles because I'm not a huge castle person myself, but that being said, I LOVED the Mountain Fortress as it was super creative and had an amazing design and footprint. The two in this series didn't strike me as such.
We'll see if LEGO can take some notes from the BDP and bring some castles to the fans! The only main people is that it's by and large the ADULT fans that love the castle, but the kids not so much /: And we all know that the kids (or adults buying for kids) are the consumers that drive the sales!
@@cpafol They seem to have an AFOL market as well. there are more and more AFOL sets coming out. They just need to stop making mistakes (for example the blacktron renegade is perfect ... the town square had so many stickers, it's not even funny .... they seem to think people who pay 100-200-500 euro on a set want stickers ... )
Regardless, these sets are really good and important. You can't have only huge castles - although those seem to be the most popular.. These 2 in series 4 are cheaper and even if the port is less fancy, I like what it does - something new for castle. The siege camp should have been a normal series of sets, each item their own little set so you can buy as many as you like: Trebuchet x2, Siege tower x3, cooking camp x1 , big tent x3, small tent x10, and a small battlepack with the anti cavalery spikes to get 100 of. Still, this here is better than not having it at all, and people keep voting for these because they don't have alternatives. Just look at which ones actually sell out the quickest or at all.
I love castle sets
They sell well
What’s controversial??
I answered this in another comment so I will copy/paste my comment here to explain!
"It is quite well know and communicated by Bricklink that they choose only ONE design from each category for each Series. That is until this series. So no, it's not controversial because I'm not a castle fan; it's controversial because the BDP contradicted its own stated guidelines with this series.
Now, since my initial video, I have had various conversations with Bricklink reps to understand why they made that decision and now fully understand why it had to be done and how it was reasonable. However, not everyone has had those conversations which is why this Series is still looked at as controversial by the broader community.
Hope this helps as to why I denoted this Series as controversial and not just trying to say that because, "I didn't like the designs"."
Only interested in castle and pirate, but don't like the siege encampment. Need more castles! :) I agree they make some weird choices though within the castle entries.
Interesting! I've heard a resounding positive wave for the Siege Encampment across the board, but I can certainly see how one would not prefer to swallow that price tag. Either way, more castle and pirate to come in future waves!
Imo, if you're a castle fan, the seige encampment is a must. It compliments every castle set. You need a set like this to have seiges between different factions.
I think about Siege Encampment, but later this year Adventures in Transylvania would come, so...
This is where I'm at too! The Merchant Boat is a fun one, but man do I need to save up for that expensive Adventures in Transylvania! The wallet can only stretch so thin
How having 2 castle set in Bricklink Designer Program controversial? How many us castle fans have new castle set in a year from Lego? 1? or 2 at most. And how many new sets, other Lego themes did Lego introduce? City probably have more than 20 new set this month only, Starwars, marvel/disney also has a ton of new sets this month only. BDP is the only way we get new castle set outside of only 1 new official Lego set per year. The closest to castle set, is Lord of the Rings set which usually only have 1 ultra expensive set every year. There are a lot castle fan, yet there are not many option from Lego official sets 😓
As mentioned in another reply, it is controversial because the BDP's own guidelines state, and it is widely communicated, that they will always choose only ONE design from each Series. This Series saw two designs chosen from one category. Hence the controversy. Since my video 9 months ago, I have had various conversations with Bricklink reps and understood why they made that decision and how it was reasonable. However, the broader community hasn't had those discussions so this Series still has some controversy for many.
As far as comparing the BDP to LEGO retail sets, that's not an apples to apples comparison. If you look at Castle as a whole, any LEGO fan has had many, many offerings over the past 5 years with more, no doubt, to come. Is there a castle theme out there? No. Why you ask? Simple! Kids don't want castle anymore. So while us BIONICLE fans are starving over here, the Castle/Train fans are eating quite well comparatively.
Hope that explanation helps!
for a non-castle fun , you are very opinionated for the castle sets :D
Just because I don't like the game, doesn't mean I don't respect the game 😎
How fast do you thing this two castle sets will be sold out ?
Hmm that's a tough question, but I think they both will hit huge spikes early and fast, and then level out. I believe the Siege Encampment has the best chance of selling out because it's a literal army building set and enough of the Castle AFOLs are middle-aged folks with lots of disposable income.
I'm excited to watch this one from an outside perspective as I will not be preordering any! It's going to be a fun one 🙏🏻
The price and scattering of small builds makes me not want to get the siege encampment. If anything the pictures of the siege tower next to the castles makes me just want to try to build that
It will be interesting to see what people do with the Siege Encampment, if it sells out, or if people ramp it up to fit a wider footprint. I've already seen other commenters talk about buying multiple to make a huge encampment! Regardless, it's a pass for me.
I don't see how the designer can have a seige encampment set that is one build. It's basically a large accessory kit that is essential to all castles. Can't really have a seige without it.
It doesn't need to be just one build. I think it would have been better if it just focused on the siege equipment and not all the tents and stalls. Maybe give up 2 siege engines, a bigger archer barricade etc. could have reduced the cost a bit as well
i think we cant say this controversial just because personal taste, but it different when one community of afol hate it
It's not even about hate, it's more about the fact that this Series unfortunately had to break the rules because of external circumstances. I always try to keep my personal tastes out of these kinds of things! But I'm certainly glad for those that enjoy these types of builds!
Pass. Was hoping for the Japanese Samurai Castle.
I was REALLY hoping for the Sushi Restaurant! That build is an absolute beauty and would go so well in any LEGO city!
I'm disappointed in the price of the encampment. I'll get 4/5 this round because of this.
It does seem a bit steep and would have been nice to get closer to $199.99 on that price point. However, between the part count and updated minifigure count, I'm certain it was never going to get there 😢
The boat 100% pick up for me its unique like it very much
I originally was ALL in on the boat! It's such a fun, unique, whimsical design. However, the wallet is hurting after several of the recent BDP rounds so I must use better judgment an pass on designs that I'm not fully passionate about.
That will be a fun pickup though!
@@cpafol Oh yeah i get that, this will be my first buy ever so im glad i saved my wallet so far haha!
the answer is yes
Easiest answer ever 🙌🏻
Doesn’t like castle Lego… get out of town
This Castle ain't big enough for the two of us. Probably?
Two Castles? What is Riverside Scholars but a Medieval building with towers...so castle?
There is at least 2.5 castle here, if not 3 castles.
Well I saved a big stash of cash this time...and next time...and the time after that.
I wouldn't call Riverside Scholars a castle as I believe it either fell under the "Building" or "Fantasy" categories. Regardless, our conclusions are both the same as both of our wallets will be taking a much needed break!
get over it
Never! 😈
@@cpafol even you
@@stevenlawrence7101 🫶🏼
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You are a clickbaiter or a fool.
@@daystoppol1592 Hefty claim! But only the second one is arguable