Camille Paglia: Is this the End of Men?

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  • In this series of videos, Camille Paglia discusses the "end of men" as a force of economic and political power. This is from 2013. The full debate is behind a paywall, but I think this pre-interview, as well as two clips from the debate give a good idea what the various arguments presented were.
    There were four debaters, two from each side. Hanna Rosin and Maureen Dowd argued this is the beginning of the end for male dominance in society, while Paglia and Caitlin Moran argue its not that simple, and it's naive to think things will progress in this way.
    This clip features mostly Paglia, but you can find more information, including more clips of the other presenters here: www.munkdebate...

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  • @MrDurcon
    @MrDurcon 7 років тому +307

    Camille Paglia, Get you're own TALK SHOW or Podcast!

    • @djanitatiana
      @djanitatiana 7 років тому +15

      YT CHANNEL! Maybe women will discover her the way men have found so much in Peterson's lectures.

    • @adamoliver8736
      @adamoliver8736 7 років тому +13

      Paglia to the People!

    • @ManInTheBigHat
      @ManInTheBigHat 7 років тому +6

      TOTALLY! I'd help fund that!

    • @alphonsohussein4143
      @alphonsohussein4143 7 років тому +5

      +truth bravery If you're crazy, I'm crazy with you.
      I was thinking we should temporarily embrace Islam and go hardcore Sharia on western women. That'll teach them, then maybe they're gonna give us our balls back and we'll be able to elect our very own Hitler.
      Repeal the right to vote for women, criminalize divorce, make "marriage" a contract to have at least 3 children. Society would be back in shape in no time.

    • @Perfect.Imperfect
      @Perfect.Imperfect 7 років тому +8

      *your

  • @artgurrl
    @artgurrl 7 років тому +119

    Today's feminism needs her! What a voice of reason. I come from a white working class family and she's spot on.

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 7 років тому +6

      She's been around forever but the bourgeois feminists of the 80's and 90's totally threw she and Christina Hoff Sommers under the bus for daring to contradict their bullshit dogma about female equality that denies biological differences. We are now paying the price for the hegemony of postmodernist feminism that has ruined the nuclear family and effectively destroyed men in our culture.

    • @Hunter-yj6zb
      @Hunter-yj6zb 7 років тому +5

      No today's feminism needs to be eradicated.

    • @Hunter-yj6zb
      @Hunter-yj6zb 7 років тому +2

      Destroyed the common man yes. Feminism was created and is funded by big money men who use it and other groups to keep the common man controlled and in check.

    • @artgurrl
      @artgurrl 7 років тому +8

      Yes, I agree. And feminism never accepted women who were blue collar. I mean did you ever hear Gloria Steinham or other corporate and post modern feminists advocate for their housekeepers or nannies? No. But that is why Paglia is needed. She sees through their hypocrisy and calls them out on so many levels.

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 7 років тому

      +Hunter66 I doubt it was 'masterminded' by anyone in particular, but it sure does work to keep people down, that's for fucking sure.

  • @KC-xp8dg
    @KC-xp8dg 7 років тому +38

    As usual, Camille is always more pleasurable to listen to at .75 speed.

    • @OlovMetal
      @OlovMetal 7 років тому +2

      Dude, THANK YOU, soo true....

    • @joshthompson9390
      @joshthompson9390 3 роки тому +1

      Me too! he-he!

    • @poetryfortheinsane.1985
      @poetryfortheinsane.1985 3 роки тому +2

      I usually play videos at 1.25 speed. Her and Ben Shapiro are the only people I can't do that to

    • @mysticaltyger2009
      @mysticaltyger2009 3 роки тому +1

      Not a great speaker, but the content is solid.

  • @taekwondotime
    @taekwondotime 7 років тому +20

    I'm not sure who the *other woman* was in this debate (or whatever it was), but *her points went unanswered* , so I'll address them now:
    1. *College degrees* . Men realized long ago that a college degree doesn't get you a higher paying job, unless you're targeting very specific careers. The type of jobs men usually end up with are blue collar, physical labour jobs. Those jobs can pay very well without requiring degrees. The perfect example is that of a contractor, or a landscaper, or a tradesman. Women waste a lot of money on college degrees to become "executive assistants" (secretaries) at companies. They earn $40,000/yr answering the phone (with their degree) while their husband earns $90,000/yr moving dirt with a bulldozer (without a degree). *It comes down to which jobs people are willing to do, and only men are willing to do the tough jobs* . That's the honest to goodness truth.
    2. *The college admission system* . Colleges have been doing everything in their power to get women. All of the incentives and special programs target women. I'm surprised women pay tuition at all to go to college. The government basically wants to pay it for you. Men aren't "falling behind", they're way *ahead* of the curve. They know a scam when they see one, and they know how worthless a degree is these days, so men took a pass on that system.
    3. *The traditional family* . It's the end of the traditional family because women insisted on joining the workforce and paying for someone else to raise their children (daycare workers and television basically). All that happened as a result is that it devalued men's salaries, so now you need *two* people working to make the same amount of money that *one* man earned back in the 1950's or 1960's. The introduction of women into the workforce drove the average middle class family into poverty by deflating wages.

    • @zahhari3170
      @zahhari3170 7 років тому +3

      Chris Baehr I've been saying that about women joining the workforce for years. When you increase the number of workers then salaries go down. Simple economics.

    • @solonlysander2180
      @solonlysander2180 5 років тому +2

      @sleepy rivers - The reason why women and minorities are getting more college degrees than white men and why more women and minorities are getting jobs over white men, is because feminists complained about equality and thus the "affirmative action laws" were passed. Back in 1987 the Supreme Court, in a 6 to 3 decision, upheld the "affirmative action and ruled today that employers may sometimes favor women and members of minorities over better-qualified men and whites in hiring and promoting to achieve better balance in their work forces. In a blistering dissent, Justice Antonin Scalia said the Court's ''enormous expansion'' of prior decisions upholding affirmative action had completed its conversion of a 1964 antidiscrimination law into an ''engine of discrimination'' against men and whites, especially the ''unknown, unaffluent, unorganized.''
      Years ago, the majority of good paying jobs were; coal and other mining jobs, steel mills and saw mills, logging, other factory jobs, construction and even truck driving, yet women at that time did not cry that they were not be treated equally for those jobs. They were happy for men to go off to those jobs while they (the women) stayed home to take care of the house. Now that the majority of good paying jobs are cushy white collar office jobs, now women want equality to go to work.
      You say..."To simply say it's all women's fault men can't make enough anymore is too simple" That is 100% correct. It was men who passed the affirmative action laws and other men that have been giving more and more power to women. Men of these men have done so for money and poonany.

  • @PqV72MT4
    @PqV72MT4 7 років тому +32

    I have great respect for this woman.

    • @mysticaltyger2009
      @mysticaltyger2009 3 роки тому

      Don't always agree with her, but one of the few people on the left who is awake to the dysfunction in Western countries.

    • @legalgig3480
      @legalgig3480 Рік тому

      I love her so much

  • @Clari26
    @Clari26 7 років тому +54

    These women are also becoming depressed, infertile, lonely, bitter, narcissistic, I guess power, and money is not as glorious as it seems... I am glad I did not fall for most of that B.S. I have always known motherhood is very important to me, as is love, creativity, femininity, among many other things. The wise woman way. Shamanic, and its the women who inspire me the most, the healers.

    • @pinkgal206
      @pinkgal206 7 років тому +2

      Shut up! Let women do what they want!

    • @margaret6839
      @margaret6839 6 років тому +2

      Well in that case men should we glad we've taken on the burdens of power and money. You're welcome guys.

    • @giannislainas5187
      @giannislainas5187 6 років тому +1

      Good that you did Margie,but dont forget hypergamy.Since most women seem to want to marry up,if you are alrd at the top and with your gender overepresented at the top then not many suitable husbands out there and for sure not at your age,since those males at the top will be looking for something younger and hotter than your succesfull you at middle 30s and they would be able to get it also.
      So unless you marry someone early and make him a housewise,dont see much succesfull romantic relationships for you girls,unless you choose childless life or sperm banks,then more power to you.
      The best solution ofc is the choice of marrying down,but i dont think women seem willing to do that,lower their expectations that is. It would be great to start seeing more marriages between upper middle class women with higher education and working class men for instance.But not many of those around now,are they.

    • @margaret6839
      @margaret6839 6 років тому +3

      Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid man. It amazes me that the same guys who criticize feminism as a brainwashed cult will then turn around and spew the same unverified, unscientific MRA garbage without ever seeing the irony. I’d be happy to refute your arguments but I’m not gonna even bother; you’re a zealot, it’s pointless.

    • @SMC01ful
      @SMC01ful 5 років тому

      Cool, you sound like my Mum. It's what she thinks as well.

  • @michaelbashford2733
    @michaelbashford2733 7 років тому +37

    Caller: Hi I'm wondering if you'd like to participate in a debate?
    Me: Sure, who will my opponent be?
    Caller: Camille Pa....
    Me: *hangs up

    • @TroyMountain
      @TroyMountain 7 років тому +3

      WHY would you pass up a chance at conversation with her?! She's one of the few feminists not a man-hater and family-killer.

  • @sofsirv1126
    @sofsirv1126 7 років тому +3

    "For every conscious declaration of Equality from women there is a subconscious desire for Domination" Jordan Peterson

  • @onslaughtonslaught391
    @onslaughtonslaught391 7 років тому +11

    I would go as far to say that this woman is a gift to humanity.

  • @capoman1
    @capoman1 7 років тому +16

    14:00 _The "alpha wife" earns more than the husband, she makes up 40% of US couples..._

  • @ladyesther
    @ladyesther 7 років тому +19

    No...we need men! I like this woman. Just discovered her today.

    • @margaret6839
      @margaret6839 5 років тому +2

      Ironically, she is a lesbian. :D

  • @Snarge22
    @Snarge22 7 років тому +28

    Hanna Rosin assumes something that simply isn't so. And that is the men will always be generous. She assumes that men will just keep signing up to commitment, women, and children. That just isn't the case. Put enough road blocks in men's way, undermine their ability to prosper, disrespect what men bring to society, severely penalize them if they ever take a half step wrong, and shame and call them a$$holes no matter what they do and you'll see more and more men refusing to play along. Even women are creating a backlash against feminism and it makes Hanna come across as smug, arrogant with her mind up in a cloud somewhere.
    Hanna also completely overlooks that men are the true dreamers, inventors, builders, and maintainers of our civilization and sociey. That simply isn't going to change. And women don't want most of those jobs.
    Some day there will be true male birth control, and as long as it is not made illegal you will see men, well those who are responsible and have something to lose, also withdrawing their fertility. And get this; Planned Parenthood might even provide it!
    Women haven't a clue what real empowerment is until they age into their 40s without a husband and family. When their beauty has faded and they are left with only their skills, that's when they'll know. Oh, and a good reference what true strong, independent empowerment is at its best just look at men over 40 who are not burdened with a wife and family. Those guys have discovered a gold mine. That would be their own earnings not obligated to others. The difference is shocking. Good luck all you Hanna Rosin feminists. You're going to need it.

    • @steve3131
      @steve3131 7 років тому +4

      Why any man would marry an obnoxious cunt like Hanna Rosin is a mystery. Even sheer masochism cannot account for it.

    • @Snarge22
      @Snarge22 7 років тому +2

      She may have been nice looking at 22, but like all of them she has hit the wall. She is quite delusional about men. Not sure why she came up with her viewpoint. Maybe to generate controversy and sell books.

    • @margaret6839
      @margaret6839 6 років тому

      Feminists may be stupid, but none of us are dumb enough to believe that men on our side. No one is expecting you to be generous, believe me.

    • @margaret6839
      @margaret6839 5 років тому

      @Resistance Do you actually think I'm going to spend 10 minutes of my life reading this after you led with calling me a terrorist? Consolidate your points man; I'm busy.

    • @richardfinlayson1524
      @richardfinlayson1524 5 років тому

      have you actually met any real feminists, or women for that matter?

  • @gpg8204
    @gpg8204 7 років тому +83

    She needs a youtube channel and go viral.
    1 video per week at least.
    AMAZING!!

    • @WakingUpToday213
      @WakingUpToday213 7 років тому +2

      Gina Granada, there's enough of her out there and in her books to last you a lot of weeks. Love it when women see this point of view!

    • @gpg8204
      @gpg8204 7 років тому

      Andrew MacDonald I love to listen to her, a feminist that admires men, but my capacity to read (and write) in english is not that good yet. I am learning. But you are rigth I need to read her work

    • @WakingUpToday213
      @WakingUpToday213 7 років тому +2

      Gina Granada, I can't read any second languages as well as you do English. Good for you! There's a lot of Camille to listen to on UA-cam!

    • @gpg8204
      @gpg8204 7 років тому +1

      Andrew MacDonald thank you! 😉 There so many information in english out there that learning becomes a need. Now is easier with the internet, I am learning by myself and my first step is to listen to someone who speak fast and Camille Paglia is perfect!

    • @WakingUpToday213
      @WakingUpToday213 7 років тому +1

      She IS perfect for that. I only speak a little Spanish slowly. Mi cuniada es Colombiana!

  • @hithere8753
    @hithere8753 7 років тому +22

    Holy shit this woman is sharp.

  • @Spudcore
    @Spudcore 7 років тому +7

    "No female Mozart, no female Jack the Ripper": This is a really concise way of putting it. She's so smart.

    • @victimoncrime5708
      @victimoncrime5708 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, because women were enslaved. Know your history. There were in fact many great women despite the overwhelming oppressiob they faced. It's just thick people don't know about them, because they don't know much in general.

  • @ReynaldoJAbreuR74
    @ReynaldoJAbreuR74 7 років тому +6

    I absolutely adore how brilliant and articulate Camille Paglia is. I'd listen to her for hours without end.

  • @andrewpearson1903
    @andrewpearson1903 5 років тому +4

    13:34 Paglia's opponent expresses no sympathy for men, shows no interest in helping the boys who are "fall[ing] behind as early as first grade." Nothing but glee at the "end of men." Just incredible.

  • @audine2007
    @audine2007 5 років тому +3

    So happy I found her! I thought I was The only “woman” left!

  • @BMerker
    @BMerker 7 років тому +2

    “there can be no more radical refusal of self-acceptance than the
    repudiation of one’s own biological nature,” Norman Podhoretz, Breaking
    Ranks, 1979.

  • @svartvist
    @svartvist 7 років тому +10

    If feminism came back to the real world, there wouldn't be any feminism and women would be accountable and posses reason. (Melvin Udall, As Good As It Gets)

    • @borisvandruff7532
      @borisvandruff7532 5 років тому +2

      svartvist
      “How do you write women so well?”
      “I think of a man, and I take away reason, and accountability.”

  • @pseudopetrus
    @pseudopetrus 7 років тому +2

    First off, I was taking a course at U of T, and in class we were discussing a book, and one young lady amazed me with what she extracted out of that book, I was impressed, so I do believe that some women are very creative. Second, my wife has brought two beautiful children into the world, into my world. I could do very little as a man to help at the births, but that does not mean that I did not care deeply about my wife or my child. In a way men are biologically removed from the birth process but in another way we have instincts that kick in, to provide for and protect our families. I call it instincts, but is it more social? Or is there a biological component to how we feel about our mates and our offspring? Great talk Camille!

  • @lesterchua2677
    @lesterchua2677 Рік тому +1

    It’s sad that it’s the end of Western men. But others will take over, and feminism will realise just how tolerant and protective the Western culture was. The very culture feminism works so hard to tear down.

  • @zzendawgie
    @zzendawgie 7 років тому +2

    my FAVORITE interview of Camille!

  • @The482075
    @The482075 5 років тому +6

    I genuinely love how Camille Paglia speaks so passionately about her views. There is a grand sense of romanticism of her own world view. She grabs your attention with immense power.

  • @heftyalan1152
    @heftyalan1152 7 років тому +5

    The end? Definitely not for this man.

  • @rainbowofsoups8570
    @rainbowofsoups8570 2 роки тому +2

    Imagine having a mother that thinks her child is a burden and not a blessing. One can intellectualize it all, ultimately, it's a hate kiss towards all of humanity. She had a mother herself. Nature is great at reminding us that we age and if we don't replenish, we go instinct. As such, some forms of feminism will not survive. Try do that without men...

  • @UnexpectedWonder
    @UnexpectedWonder 7 років тому +2

    She killed it, Man, maybe even better than usual in this.

  • @andrewfleming4027
    @andrewfleming4027 6 років тому

    I wish the whole debate was made available on UA-cam.

  • @Trazynn
    @Trazynn 7 років тому +2

    6:18 Immediately had to think about the guy that landed the Rosetta Stone probe on top of a meteorite and got the ire of the feminists for wearing a shirt (that his girlfriend made!) with images of sexy women printed on it. The days thereafter the conversation was about his shirt, not his achievement, and his tearful public apology for his shirt was the icing on the feminist cake.
    It's such a perfect case scenario.

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance 7 років тому +9

    bring back men only and women's only social clubs.

  • @nickyrat
    @nickyrat 7 років тому +2

    Thank you. Fantastic presentation of logic and thought. I really appreciate your thoughts. I just watched a few of your other videos. It's so nice to hear a feminists views that don't make all men and masculinity the enemy of woman.

  • @Minyadagniriel
    @Minyadagniriel 7 років тому +10

    I'd like to see her converse with Ben Shapiro

    • @raymondsilas6244
      @raymondsilas6244 6 років тому

      Minyadagniriel he would kick her are in 10 seconds

  • @ieetemos4breakfast
    @ieetemos4breakfast 7 років тому +3

    It worries me that it appears that there is no one on the rise to take Camille's place as the true champion of real feminism. Once she's gone, there will be the same void left in real feminism as there was in freedom of speech when George carlin died.

  • @tommcfadden5232
    @tommcfadden5232 7 років тому +1

    Men notice how women look. We just know that if we complement women for their beauty they will call us misogynists or chauvinists or sexists.

  • @mysticaltyger2009
    @mysticaltyger2009 3 роки тому +1

    What she said at 14:40 was very ominous. Unfortunately, I agree with her.

  • @Arthirias
    @Arthirias 7 років тому +14

    How unfortunate that the more I listen to Camille Paglia, the more I realize she's still part of the problem. Traditional society was gynocentric. Feminism basically removes any incentive for men to be part of a gynocentric society. Yes, she refutes modern feminism and yet she still promotes a type of feminism that still would not function generally. The best analogy I provide is she is promoting feudalism as an alternative to marxism. Yeah it sounds good, compared to marxism, but it is still a silly system. Gynocentricism has run its course and wore out its welcome for men. Even a segregated gender society makes far more sense. No co-ed schools, no co-ed workplaces. At least being male isn't going to result into being turned into a second class citizen that way.

    • @svartvist
      @svartvist 7 років тому

      Heyman and heyman! Sometimes she almost makes sense, and other times she speak with (h)Uranus.
      “…what you're seeing there isn't masculinity; what you're seeing there is femininity aping a few masculine traits - very few indeed and not very well done either. The story is this: a woman can use anything at her disposal, and she has everything at her disposal." Suzanne Hindmarsh
      Paglia is not anything but a woman who didn't like being one and sought to ape men to feel better about herself. What she knows about men is second hand or less.

    • @margochanning6868
      @margochanning6868 7 років тому +3

      In practice, Marxism is feudalism.

    • @kalidesu
      @kalidesu 7 років тому

      *Arthirias* Interesting points.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 7 років тому

      Arthirias No mate. Marxism is waaaaaay better then Feudalism.
      An ordinary person was not even allowed to wear colourful clothes under the feudal system.

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 7 років тому

      Margo Channing So is corporate capitalism where you end up owned by the company.

  • @theknowall2232
    @theknowall2232 7 років тому +2

    It's very important for all intelligent males to be anti-feminist and to support the philosophy of MGTOW - to peg back the present feminist throttle-hold, which developed since everyone obtained the right to vote. In western democratic countries, I see 5 stages leading to the feminist problem we have today.

    • @theknowall2232
      @theknowall2232 7 років тому +1

      *Stage 1*
      Politicians became vote chasers. Using simple language, politicians offered fruits that achieved votes. The average women voted for women's issues and so did many men (due to the male protective instinct towards women). Women are skillful at expressing victimhood and the majority of voters reacted accordingly.

    • @theknowall2232
      @theknowall2232 7 років тому

      *Stage 2*
      Feminists initially aimed for 'equality' and wanted everyone to believe that women could comprise leadership jobs /engineers /builders /mechanics etc. in equal numbers as men. Feminists slowly took over the education system. Feminists indoctrinated the young so that mythical things such as patriarchy, pay gap, sexual abuse, DV, gender bias, glass ceilings --> became real in people's minds. Women's Studies mushroomed in the universities and these graduates took over the media.

    • @theknowall2232
      @theknowall2232 7 років тому

      *Stage 3*
      Women took a majority of jobs in the bureaucracy, all levels of education, the media and a large part of the justice system. They controlled the male politicians who did what they were told by influential feminist organisations like White Ribbon.

    • @theknowall2232
      @theknowall2232 7 років тому

      *Stage 4* (example, Australia)
      Government jobs for the benefit of women grew like cancer. These jobs were initially seen as vote winners, useless but harmless. But they were *not harmless*. Jobs such as the Minister for Women, the Commissioner for Women, the Equal Opportunity Commissioner, the Office for Women, the Office of Women's Affairs, the National Council of Women of Australia, the Australian Women's Health Network health advocacy organisation, the Country Women's Association, the Australian Labor Party organisation for the equalising of women in politics, the National Council of Women of Australia, the International Council of Women, the Women's Electoral Lobby ... and many others.
      The problem with these jobs is that the women in these roles must DO SOMETHING, so they investigated women who failed to achieve (due to incompetence or due to hating a job), then labelled the reasons as sexual harassment /discrimination and lobbied for special rules and privileges for women. This happened, for example, in the police force.

    • @theknowall2232
      @theknowall2232 7 років тому

      *Stage 5*
      Only males subservient to feminist ideology were promoted in many workplaces, so that ambitious males, conditioned from youth, learned to follow the ideology. If men stood up for fairness and equality, if they argued against benefits for women, they were not promoted.
      The education system had indoctrinated women with the idea that masculinity was toxic, ensuring that minor disputes became sufficient for marriage breakups. In their private lives, men discovered that, in a marriage breakup, women could easily accuse males of domestic violence, rape or child abuse. This ensured women a better divorce settlement outcome and feminism had convinced many women that they were justified in taking this path. Many divorce lawyers encouraged women to take this path. Women's verbal accusations were always supported by the courts. The legal fraternity enjoyed the income from marital breakups and feminists in the justice system enjoyed the benefits of all the new gynocentric laws. The spread of male criminal convictions for DV, rape or child abuse meant such males could only attain employment in their own business or in all-male jobs such as building. Loss of employment and loss of family increased the male suicide rate. Feminist exaggerations of workplace sexual harassment/bullying ensured that women were seen as a safer option for government jobs. Rules enforcing police background checks ensured a decreasing pool of men could compete with women for government jobs.

  • @tristandecunha434
    @tristandecunha434 5 років тому +1

    Camille, you’re great, you’re just making too much sense, you’re my hero. 👍

  • @henocsilva562
    @henocsilva562 7 років тому +1

    Her laugh is so sarcastic.. i love it

  • @RickyCespedes
    @RickyCespedes 7 років тому

    This woman is so great! Everyone needs to hear what she has to say.

  • @daggeleslee6640
    @daggeleslee6640 5 років тому

    Is there any where we can watch this talk they are showing at the end??

  • @jakearmitage7811
    @jakearmitage7811 7 років тому +2

    Oh let us do watch and observe the rise of women without electrical engineers, sanitation, construction, mechanical, engineers and workers, 99% of whom are men.Dominating marketing jobs in AC offices does not constitute the rise of women, sorry. We will soon see how long women dominate the financial decisions in households too as fewer manage to get married, as men have checked out of the raw deal

  • @t6v5c2
    @t6v5c2 6 років тому

    I probably disagree with 90% of what Parker stands for, but I find her incredible! Her intellectual integrity is just so refreshing, and she has major credibility.

  • @gmac805
    @gmac805 5 років тому +1

    "Wandering (men) the world and finally finding the woman of their dreams, and discovering she's just a vision of their mother!" LOL

  • @carolcheny
    @carolcheny 7 років тому

    Where's the video of the debate?

  • @oksbpodcast7005
    @oksbpodcast7005 3 роки тому

    She’s so important now more than ever. Nothing but respect

  • @gpwil3847
    @gpwil3847 7 років тому

    Thank you, I enjoy great minds. Love listening to your insights and perspectives.

  • @prschuster
    @prschuster 5 років тому +1

    Women dress for other women. Of course, they do. It's not like most men are fashion critics.

  • @The482075
    @The482075 5 років тому +1

    If you take into account the great many professions with majority male work forces, not to mention the fact that most of the leadership roles are done by men, then you'll realise that this question is silly.
    There are examples of sexism against women and examples of sexism against men. So I am not dismissing these. I am just sceptical of any "end of men" claims. They make interesting thought experiments though.

  • @joelv6133
    @joelv6133 7 років тому +1

    i agree with everyone who says she needs her own show/podcast/whatever platform. she obviously can talk to no end and she says some infamatory stuff. i love every second of it

  • @lullabi3234
    @lullabi3234 6 років тому

    LOVE THIS WOMAN!!!
    Camille is my Fresh Air.

  • @stevephillips8719
    @stevephillips8719 5 років тому

    I'm an arch conservative yet I love this woman.

  • @jgooo101
    @jgooo101 7 років тому +2

    Is there anymore of this talk?

    • @ThePayola123
      @ThePayola123 7 років тому

      dpRiley1
      Yes but FemNaziBots are working hard to take it down.

    • @VulgarTrader
      @VulgarTrader  7 років тому +1

      Yes, but behind a paywall. This was all I could get. See description for more.

  • @Wingedmagician
    @Wingedmagician 7 років тому

    This was amazing. I love her perspective on women who beautify themselves.

  • @Dzzy123
    @Dzzy123 7 років тому

    Camille spoke at the #womenLEAD event this past May with Christina Hoff Sommers. I've been trying to find footage of the event; have you stumbled upon any?

  • @mathieust-gelais9297
    @mathieust-gelais9297 6 років тому

    I LOVE HER SO MUCH!!!!!!! For the first time, a feminist try to understand the gender conflict through nature and logic point-de-vue!
    And i dont say that just bc she defend men, but bc she protect humain nature and his both sides.

  • @fightington
    @fightington 7 років тому +1

    "pardon me, naive"
    camile is awesome

  • @ardalla535
    @ardalla535 7 років тому +2

    The Age of Men is over. It is now the Age of the Orc

  • @mareechristiansen6275
    @mareechristiansen6275 6 років тому

    Men arguing feminism woman arguing masculinity. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore

  • @katafract2000
    @katafract2000 7 років тому

    Brilliant, as ever.

  • @paulnascimento2359
    @paulnascimento2359 6 років тому +1

    Women are graduating more than men in universities. True but in what

  • @arthurrobey4945
    @arthurrobey4945 7 років тому

    Did he say that it was a Mass Debate?
    I'm confused.
    There were only two of them.

  • @JackBaldwin
    @JackBaldwin 7 років тому

    We as humans have become unwilling or unable to accept what we have to do to exist.

  • @flexnetuser2268
    @flexnetuser2268 5 років тому

    Great video. Some of the women on Real Housewives are not particularly beautiful. What they all have in common is a great deal of money, leisure, and a certain lavish lifestyle. This is so much about power. But I agree with her points.

  • @keysersoze4322
    @keysersoze4322 7 років тому +1

    She's wrong to say there aren't female geniuses - of course there are - it's just slim pickings compared to males. Even she had said this in another interview.

  • @RonArts
    @RonArts 5 років тому

    NOTE: Munk Debates has removed the paywall, and only requires (free) registration now!

  • @stevenglansburg856
    @stevenglansburg856 7 років тому

    What's real weird is, as a conservative libertarian, i genuinely love drag shows.

  • @maryjones6115
    @maryjones6115 7 років тому +11

    She is a great speaker, debater. However, I do not agree with her premise that pregnancy and nursing (infants) is a burden. I found it incredibly empowering!!

    • @margaret6839
      @margaret6839 6 років тому

      Mary: Camille Paglia identifies as a trans man. She has no idea how most women feel about much of anything, including pregnancy and childbirth, but that doesn't prevent her from waxing about them when it suits her needs. She's spent most of her career trying to be accepted as one of the guys, because like Jordan Peterson, she thinks women are pretty much useless. This makes her a natural hero to MRAs, but of pretty much no use to you. You want wisdom about pregnancy, childbirth and womanhood in general? Talk to your grandmother.

    • @peterg3947
      @peterg3947 6 років тому

      My grandmother is dead

    • @margaret6839
      @margaret6839 5 років тому

      May she rest in peace.

  • @brucefullwood
    @brucefullwood 7 років тому +11

    "It's Mother Nature that lays the heaviest burden on women . . . " - Camille, love ya, but that's nuts. Yep, the burden on women is great, but this statement implies that men are saddled with a relatively lighter burden . . . ya know, like dying in wars to protect and provide for women. Taking far greater risks. I could go on, but you get the point.

    • @CosmicSpectrumArt
      @CosmicSpectrumArt 7 років тому

      Um, don't take that statement so close to heart, but I do believe it's true. As a group, women are physically weaker and more vulnerable, and bearing children is no joke. You don't really understand what it's like to have a ticking clock that will determine whether you were able to carry out your biological destiny or disappear into obscurity. Men don't have a time limit, and they don't become obsolete after a certain age.

    • @svartvist
      @svartvist 7 років тому +1

      Try convincing a man of 65 he still has time and not obsolete...

    • @CosmicSpectrumArt
      @CosmicSpectrumArt 7 років тому +2

      At 65 everyone is obsolete unless they've done something remarkable with their life... and the criteria for 'remarkable' is pretty wide.

    • @RacconAndMT
      @RacconAndMT 7 років тому +2

      Bruce Fullwood
      I think you just misunderstood the statement. She isn't saying that of all of nature's burdens the heaviest is lain on women, she's saying that of all the burdens women bear (women who strive for the traditional goals of feminism, that is), the heaviest is that lain on them by nature. She's not saying that women have a heavier burden lain on them by nature than men.
      Btw, can I ask you how many wars you've been to? The West has been spared a total war for the last 70 years, even compulsory military service is being phased out. It's jut a bad example in our day and age, that is if you're from the West.

    • @brucefullwood
      @brucefullwood 7 років тому +1

      Not buying it, Racoon. The structure of the sentence could be read either way: “Mother Nature gives women the heaviest burden, more so than men,” or your read, “Mother Nature is the source of women’s heaviest burden.”
      Either way, the fundamental argument is the same because fundamentally, “Mother Nature” is the source of ALL of men’s and women’s’ burdens - Women gestate and as a consequence, she requires protection and provision while gestating and caring for young; that trait is selected in women and she requires it of the men with whom she mates. It can then be said that “Mother Nature” is the fundamental source of the traditional male role of provider and protector.
      “Btw, can I ask you how many wars you've been to? The West has been spared a total war for the last 70 years, even compulsory military service is being phased out. It's jut a bad example in our day and age, that is if you're from the West.” - You may substitute war for any of example of burdens placed upon men. But you knew that; this was simply an opportunity to take a meaningless swipe. And by the by, MANY men have placed themselves in combat roles and died, Raccoon. Within the last 20 years. So yeah, war remains germane.

  • @oldwrench4213
    @oldwrench4213 5 років тому

    The end of men? Absoloutely. We simply will walk away from all of it.

  • @ssj3jarrod
    @ssj3jarrod 7 років тому +20

    Canadians do violently apologize lol

    • @ssj3jarrod
      @ssj3jarrod 7 років тому +2

      Abstract Angel Artist I loathe the cultural Marxism that has ruined the west....
      however I accept that these individuals want it so much as to collapse an entire society.
      Welcome to the central banking system

    • @JohnBobRoger
      @JohnBobRoger 7 років тому

      all politeness ends when the puck goes in the corner...also ask the Germans how polite the Canucks were in the last World Wars (especially the 1st)!

    • @Lordpoliticallyincorrect
      @Lordpoliticallyincorrect 6 років тому +1

      *Canada and Sweden..our new entertainment*

  • @mobiushelitime
    @mobiushelitime 7 років тому

    I would like her to debate Anita...would be classic! Thumbs Up!

  • @timobrienwells
    @timobrienwells 7 років тому +1

    Ms Paglia is a very smart woman.

  • @sarahcollins190
    @sarahcollins190 7 років тому

    Loving her. But I'd like to see a more detailed view on her perceptions of the impact on male and female behaviour/outcomes of biological and evolutionary incentives. I would seriously like to know her opinion on Geoffrey Millers 'Mating Mind'

  • @winneywinneywinney
    @winneywinneywinney 7 років тому +1

    I have been waiting for someone to articulate these ideas I have had for many years. She is amazing.

  • @CrniWuk
    @CrniWuk 7 років тому +1

    No female mass murderers and no female geniuses? Is she serious?

  • @rimshot6444
    @rimshot6444 7 років тому

    04:40, this is why vaginas are so terrifying! the vagina opens up & releases you into the world but a few years later it lures you back in... a few times for fun but then it closes up & swallows your soul till death liberates you.

  • @Xeranx
    @Xeranx 7 років тому

    With regard to the statement about middle class women, I have to ask: who was CharlesFourier? If I'm not mistaken, he was middle class and coined the term Feminism. He believed that marriage was a prison for women and refused to marry as a result. Who were the Suffragettes? Where they not middle class women who didn't care a lick about working class women until they needed more bodies for the campaign? Feminism has always been a middle class affair.

  • @chaoswarriorbr
    @chaoswarriorbr 7 років тому

    People need to learn proper statistics in school, probably you can push the basics in middle school and progress to the more technical and math intensive stuff in high school! This would make people question the numbers and statistics pushed by ideologues and would bring back reason to the forefront of academia like Camille wants. But I think we need better teachers and books, from kindergarten to colleges and universities, which require a completely different mentality towards education from the last 30-40 years.

  • @chippledon1
    @chippledon1 7 років тому

    She said it: "men always have to prove themselves - always!" It can wear a man down!

  • @betsyveritas1055
    @betsyveritas1055 Рік тому

    Is this the end of men? Let us pray.

  • @Shingen036
    @Shingen036 7 років тому

    Rome never died. Rome just switched into religion and the state.

  • @marsinafrica
    @marsinafrica 5 років тому +1

    Wow. this lady is nuts.

  • @ManInTheBigHat
    @ManInTheBigHat 7 років тому

    I love this gal. She really does need her own podcast.

  • @Torgomasta
    @Torgomasta 2 роки тому +2

    Camille's "if history were left to women, we would still be living in huts" reminds me of Patrice O'Neil saying that no man has a nice house, car, etc, for himself. It's all to impress women. Without impressing women, the huts probably wouldn't even be there.

  • @Orville9999
    @Orville9999 7 років тому

    nothing against her. I think she's brilliant and I agree with almost everything she says. but the woman is exhausting to listen to. Like just keeping up with her and trying to follow her train of thought is so difficult and requires so much concentration I get tired after a while.

  • @Endureromex
    @Endureromex 5 років тому

    A very smart woman indeed!

  • @papeetechild
    @papeetechild 6 років тому

    Only one objection from me... The average person in a grass hut society is happier than an average person of today.

  • @Hali88
    @Hali88 6 років тому

    There is supposedly a huge pay gap between the sexes in favor of men... but then Hanna Rosin says 40% of American couples have an alpha wife (higher earning woman). These 2 facts can't both be true!

  • @iagorincon
    @iagorincon 7 років тому

    I love this woman. She has a dizzying personality.

  • @mbmann3892
    @mbmann3892 7 років тому

    If a Gatling gun was a women, it would be Camille Paglia

  • @MugenTJ
    @MugenTJ 6 років тому

    I love her.

  • @erikbarrett85
    @erikbarrett85 7 років тому

    Feminism, pride in your genetic traits (race, gender, nationality, whatever you DIDN'T do for yourself), these things ONLY exist in response to violence; violence by MEN. If men STOP being unnecessarily violent in the face of their own self doubt, these movements won't be necessary. You wanna fix men?? Stop making them grow up ashamed of sex.

  • @polarisx6833
    @polarisx6833 7 років тому +37

    Men create great civilization, and strong independent women destroy great civilizations. The reason can be seen in the biological impulses expressed by children at Halloween. Boys gravitate toward superhero customs and girls gravitate toward princesses. The superhero creates and the princess consumes. The superhero exists to help women, children, and society, and the princess exists to consume and be admired. When a society gives strong independent women resources produced by men, it frees women to act upon their base instincts, which are utterly destructive to themselves, their children, and society. Take a look at any culture on the planet that provides welfare to women. What you find are social wastelands each and every time without a single exception anywhere on the planet now or in the past. Strong independent women turn great manufacturing cities such as Detroit and Chicago into social wastelands within a generation of them becoming strong and independent through men's redistributed resources.

    • @keysersoze4322
      @keysersoze4322 7 років тому +4

      I see you're sticking with your theme of fantasy by making baseless statements. Plenty of little girls would rather dress as superheroes or something of that ilk. I was once a little girl and not me or any of my little girl friends once dressed as a princess - witches maybe - but not princesses. You're trying so hard to materialise information that isn't even there - it honestly makes me think you've got some sorta infantilism situation going on whereby you want to paint yourself as the hero of humanity just because you're a bloke with a keypad. I'm honestly quite taken aback that you're trying to use the halloween outfit choices of toddlers as an analogy for society at large - it's hysterical. Regardless, I am intrigued by what you mean when you say it's instinctual for women to squander resources? Is that what you said? Because it's rather difficult to extract any sort of tenable information from all of the shit you just said without citations or evidence. Get back to me.

    • @polarisx6833
      @polarisx6833 7 років тому +2

      Do you really believe that more girls are dressing up as super heroes rather than princesses? And do you have any personal experience in areas of the world in which resources from society (aka men) are provided to women by a government? I know of only one outcome. Perhaps you know of another outcome? If you do, please cite it. Otherwise, you are just talking nonsense.

    • @keysersoze4322
      @keysersoze4322 7 років тому +2

      Are you really asking me to cite something in response to my asking YOU to cite something? You're the one who was making such an ambiguous statement! I couldn't cite something even if I wanted to because you still haven't told me specifically what the fuck you're referring to! Christ, you're talking out of your ass. I'll give it a go anyway. I live in the UK - where "resources" provided by everybody are used by everybody. The welfare system isn't for women only. I honestly don't know what you're getting at and you seem to be having a hard time explaining so I'm not convinced you do either.

    • @polarisx6833
      @polarisx6833 7 років тому +1

      I'm talking about patterns of human nature. The patterns are very easy to spot. I gave the one example of super heroes and princesses, which no honest person is able to deny. I could take that a step further and discuss adult interests in literature to see who's interested in what subjects, and then discuss how those interests might affect behavior. However, I have a feeling you are not really interested in anything that doesn't fit your we are all exactly equal except when something can be used for your advantage ideology.

    • @dreamsofturtles1828
      @dreamsofturtles1828 7 років тому +3

      Radium J Wherever women are given education and chances to advance themselves and their families, civilizations prosper economically. They no longer, out of ignorance and powerlessness, produce tons of kids the parents cant provide for. They add to the economy and the tax base.
      Little girls dress up as princesses because they are expressing their feminity. They love color and clothing and sparkles and dancing around dressed like that. Its something THEY LOVE. They dont do it to get attention anymore than boys like getting attention for being superheroes. Its not narcissistic pathology. Neither is being feminine .

  • @jimmieoakland3843
    @jimmieoakland3843 7 років тому +3

    What is she talking about? Everyday, I hear men saying that "we" are pregnant. Pretty soon, "we' will be nursing. Things sure have changed since I was young, when only women got pregnant. You just can't stop progress.

  • @sonny12681
    @sonny12681 7 років тому

    It's not the end of men but the end of women. Men are replacing women with love dolls made out of solid silicone and TPE with a stainless steel skeleton frame and these dolls will become robots.

  • @chillmott
    @chillmott 7 років тому +3

    holy shit she's wise

  • @rael6974
    @rael6974 6 років тому

    Feminism is to women what civil rights is to blacks: both fought for freedom so long now thy they have it they don’t know what to do with it. Women don’t understand that much of manhood is constituted around solitude. Women are not prepared for loneliness. Males are designed for solitude to think. Men have to compartmentalize emotions to solve issues. Men are the ones who help women compartmentalize emotions and when we don’t women suffer internally. Male validation for women keeps them sane.

  • @thegreymonk4993
    @thegreymonk4993 7 років тому

    I wonder if the reason Paglia is not widely known is because she's not an easy target for feminists.

  • @extraterrestrial16
    @extraterrestrial16 6 років тому

    great interview indeed, but it seems that we have bigger issues on the side to deal with. its kinda curious that can put the environment in the category of random play and display of evolutionary dictation, and yet we ourselves are having trouble with our societal identity. maybe the environment figured something out we didnt in that category.