Oh SNAP! Literally, it SNAPPED off! - Moline Part 1
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- It's exciting times, we have old and new getting a chance at life on the farm. Our goal is to get this Minneapolis Moline U Special running strong and reliable again. As soon as the parts arrive we will piece her back together and turn the key!
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I would have laughed if John Deere sent you some gators.
i looked at a kubota rtv with the 3 point hitch and front pto auto connect plus it holds 4 or 5 people on it
Michael Mac Tavish I have a lot of experience with RTV900’s and 11000’s. None with pto’s. BUT they will pull anything, Always run and very very reliable. The only problem with them is the floors rot out, that can be prevented. And parts can be very expensive. Only other downside is say on welkers farm is that they are alittle slow specially with a load on them. I do believe there’s a few things you can do to get more speed and power out of them. Gators are cool to but they are not built like kubotas
dirtshower250 agree on my 900 the floor and frame is bubbling I am currently sanding priming and painting the underneath to prevent rust through lol
@@dirtshower250 yeah the pto is accully a add on option wich no other branded rtvs doesnt have wich kubota rtvs can use there compact tractor front attachments wich is nice
@@michaelmactavish1728 bobcat makes one with a pto
I kept hearing, Great tractor, great tractor. The new ones with all the tech and bells and whistles are neat but you just can't beat having a "real" tractor.
That "real" tractor will beat the shit out of you and do far less work than any new one. The "good old days" are a lot of times, just old, tough, days! Don't miss them a bit!
Yeah, modern tractors will do much more work with much less fuel (especially since this Minneapolis Guzzler is a gasjob lmao) and much better operator comfort. Heck, even servicing is actually *better* on new machines because we’ve figured out proper systems engineering to make things last longer and in even when thing do eventually need replaced on new machines we’ve designed for manufacturing and service - engineers pay attention to things like radiator drain plug location, fastener location, optimizing service operations etc. People always say “We don’t build things like we used to”.. yeah, that’s right, because we’ve learned a lot since then. 😂
I'll be 80 soon and I really enjoyed seeing you work on an old tractor model that I remember.
If you need parts for that Moline check with Welters in Verona Missouri, they specialize in Moline , Oliver , and White tractors.
Craig Sneed do you have a link or a web site for them ?? TY,,,,,,
Leg Arms looked like Donkey Kong on Mario cart! 😂😂😂😂
This made me laugh so hard!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
glad I wasn't the only one thinking that!
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Southern Farmer85 That is sooo true
I would like to see that old Moline get restored- especially by you guys, you are kingpins at preserving farming History!
I've been watching Welker Farms for quite sometime. I just have to say, y'all are the sunshine in the darkest hour. Often times folks are struggling and seek channels like these to find a moment of solace. Lately, I've been a bit down on my luck, but great in spirits, and y'all's videos just make it so much better. Educational, clean, humours, informative, real, y'all are the total package. Thanks for everything!
Thanks for the kudos. Blessing to have you long 👍
Thanks so much for your encouraging words! Appreciate them! Wishing you the best during these times!
Me and my dad are restoring our old massey Harris 44 and we pulled the head and rebuilding the block
When you heat a bolt that is stuck, it expands and also the metal around it.
When it then cools, it shrinks back and it makes it easier to get loose.
The mistake that many people make is that they do not wait for it to cool down
before trying to release the bolt. When it's hot, it's expanded and sits just as hard.
My uncle scolded me when I was younger, it's not yellow, it's called prairie gold
"Petrolfied Wood" - if legarms was any quicker he'd cut himself 🤣
Hey Nick! May I recommend Steiners? They home make all their parts right in Lennon Michigan for old tractors!
I like Steiner Tractor for my parts, but not every part they sell is made in America. A lot of them are Chinese made. They do have a lot of American made parts, but not every one of them is.
@@dangerrangerlstc from what my dad told me, the majority of their parts are made at their facility, sure they get a few Chinese made parts, but the majority of their parts are made right there
When I was at Shelby high school last year we started restoring the same tractor
Nick. Those are the cylinders. Since there are no sleeves, that is an "enblock" engine, or "no sleeves". I'm an old tractor mechanic from back long before you or Legarms were born. Love watching your videos. I learned to drive on a 1941 Farmall A, which is still in my family. God bless all of you, from Ohio, and I particularly enjoy Bob's sense of humor.
he knows they are cylinders,inside the cylinders there are sleeves every engine in the world has cylinder sleeves
I've got a 47 A myself. Just purchased a 50 Super A I'm working on right now. And got several other tractors too.
Tabor farms that is incorrect! There are plenty of engines that DO NOT have sleeves. A sleeved motor the sleeves are separate from the block. On a non sleeved motor such as a small block chevy the bore that the piston rides in is literally part of the block there is no sleeve to pull out!
Bob's humor and positive attitude are contagious. The Welker family is awesome, so glad they decided to start a UA-cam channel.
Tabor Farms. He asked what the part was called where the cylinders are in separate castings. Graduated in 1977 in agricultural industrial diesel mechanics, just prior to going active duty in the United States Navy as a jet mechanic. Started working on engines with my dad at 8 years old. Not my first rodeo. Lol.
Ohhh a new Can-Am!! We have a can-am 570 four wheeler! So cool!
Edit hahaha an even bigger one for 4 people!!
I have used that gas tank sealer several times in the past...a painstaking, involved, many step process and it does work- but never forever..over a life time of gas tank repair strategies, i finally smartened up and found the only true cure of gas tank leaking is...wait for it...REPLACE the TANK with a BRAND NEW ONE!!..lol..trust me i have tried every product and procedure known to man to fix tanks-both internal and external, and NOTHING works as well as a brand new tank replacement!! *true words spoken by a 80's Chevy truck owner and curses to the engineer who thought putting a plastic skid plate over each tank would be a tremendously good idea which did nothing but trap moisture and dirt and mud against the tanks!!!
Yeah, it's best to get rid of old tanks if there's a good replacement available. Just, not worth the hassle, really. All the aggravation and bother it causes, might as well shell the cash for a new one or a decent replacement and be done with it. Learnt this years ago dealing with old cars on my brother's lands or back home as the guy always asked to come fix stuff.
If money is no problem, i usually replace them with an entry point fuel cell, since they're pretty much bullet proof and they have the option to run more modern fuel pumps (where applicable).
One good thing about a modern fuel pump is that you can run it at half throttle to match the original specs of the vehicle in terms of pressure and volume moved per minute, which means that you'll never wear the pump in your life time. I've installed pumps that have near constant use in farm vehicles, under that principle, and some of them have now almost 18 years of weekly use, in the typical farm setup "start, stop, start, idle for ours, stop, start" so on.
@@aserta amen~
...no luck with coating inside of tank....it can flake off and plug outlet, float bowl, carb jet.....but then flaking rust can do the same thing.....wonder if putting some coarse sand in and slowly tumbling it to shine up inside....might wear a hold in a thin spot?
Best bet for an old tank that you can't/don't want to replace it take to a radiator shop and tell them you want it re-coated... For real... If you have a decent radiator shop around, they've done this many times, and can do it right so you can avoid plugged filters etc as your homemade attempt starts to age and flake.
MMs are hard to find replacement parts for. Especially fuel tanks.
"Oh no! the shop is on fire, grab that fire extinguisher!" pssssssshh -- FWOOOOOOOM!!!! "Ahhhhhhh!!"
Mishn0 that actually happened at my place. A cousin who had never been in a shop before was there when my great uncle had an electrical short in a welder that started a fire, and he thought that the Oxi-Acetylene torch was an industrial fire extinguisher. Nobody does but we had to gut the shop and rebuild it
Considering it is a water fire extinguisher, that would probably happen anyways...
@@holsteinsanddiesels7758 When I was in the Navy I was walking through the dockyard past the Frigate Sheds, and there was an enormous like 150db "Klang" followed by a "Whoommm.." which sounded like a 1950's jet engine spooling up then a huge "BOOOM"... I literally ran away though i had no idea what was happening (the guys sprintinf out of the shed screaming was a major clue that something bad was going down). 2mins later fire alarms, fire fighters etc. Turned out a 200litre Oxy, fell off the deck, dropped 80ft in to the dry dock beneath the ship, sheered the valve off the top and went pin-wheeling around the concrete dry dock like an out of control rocket before detonating. I have no shame in saying i needed new pants.
WE WOULD USE LEAD STICKS WITH A HOT IRON AND REPAIR did many gas tanks radiator work heater cores..
Happy Earth Day. Minneapolis Moline was one of the first tractors I Learned to Drive. I helped a Dairy Farmer out at the age of 10 and they gave me the opportunity to learn how to run tractors. Hope everybody's having a great day
Nick on those can ams they are great utvs but watch the timing chain and gears. And the sensors and there is a lot of them when one goes replace them all . just a heads up
You need to buy a couple windshields for those Utvs......you can thank me later lol
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i really like that you restore these old machines
It didn’t work on the tractor cause the coolant jackets were full. If you don’t believe me try to solder a pipe with water in it...
I've seen one of those big reds in the background, should get one running
When you restore that one you should do the other one at the same time
Enjoyed seeing the MM getting some lovin'. That thing should have plenty of power to run your auger.
love the channel guys! Justice for George Floyd! stay safe
That is cool, never fails a one day project turns into a complete tear down.
You and Millennial farmer uploaded at the same time but I chose you because your awesome and I prefer case over John Deere 😃
Back in late 60s my first farming job was running a m&m with a buggy top. I thought I was the man.
I think you should buy our 1949 ford 8n it would be very useful on your farm
Minne"snap"olis Moline
Hey Welkers I suggest you do a video of putting light bars on the side by side
I’d probably be wearing a mask because that’s more than likely lead paint
Lacquer. Lead paint was used on buildings and houses.
Pretty sure lead paint is illegal to produce now, I could be wrong but I swear I heard that they stopped producing it cause its super toxic
Thomas Gilliam they stopped in the 70s that tractors looks to be older than that
@@thomasgilliam6395 Nope, not super toxic - just sweet tasting, and kids would eat the paint chips. Over time, eat enough - lead poisoning. A few particles of dust.. well, you'll probably get more at a shooting range.
Normally when using tank sealer, you drop a couple lengths of 1/4" or 3/16" chain inside the tank to break all of the crud loose. It's a lot easier to get the chain out when you're finished than trying to shake out a couple pounds of hardware.
I love old tractors. I remember my Grandfather and his John Deere B. Pop Pop coming down the road.
Great video
Adding a windshield will help you stay so much warmer in the cold season. Plus snow and rain off your face. But those are sweet and so handy!
Old iron doesn't need to weigh 20 tons to be cool! Be nice to see the old Minnie back at work soon.
Nothing like old American machinery
You know this is how a total rebuild starts, just a stuck plug...
Pretty much sums it up. After they put back together, all is needed fresh paint.
BW YinYang no there best left in original patina just redo new emblems etc then just lacquer them over and leave them worth miles more in orininal paint nowadays!!!
Great video Nick and LegArms
Just imagine when Ya'll get Her all straightened, Painted and pinstriped !, What a jewel !!
Really nice video. When i clean gastanks i strap them down to a regular concretmixer (a spinning barrel type) and let them spin a few hours with some nuts and screws inside 😜 greetings from Sweden
Nick, seeing you cleaning/sealing the tank reminds me of the time my dad and I had to seal an old motorcycle tank...long story short if you drag a fuel tank behind a boat with cleaner and nuts everything comes out perfectly...
That is an awesome idea!
Growing up on the east side of Wisconsin, our neighbors had a MM that was Propane fueled. No idea what year or model anymore, but I remember that big round LP tank that we had to fill from the home furnace LP tank. [edit] Looking back in the photo albums, it was a G1000 model, not sure what year, but it was a wide front end also. [end edit]
Leg arms texting Nick while he's on camera.....it stopped after he asked him...😂😂😂
I can't be the only one that waited for LegArms to shout "NICK, CLEAN UP THE SHOP" :D
Sweet Minnie Mo! ...and a family heirloom at that! So cool!
You are really will enjoy the side-by-side. I just bought a John Deere 590m for my boy birthday. He loves it. #TheFarmingLife
Nick: “this is turning into more work than we planned.” Word’s spoken by my farmer dad many times. Then he would tell me to work faster!
Hahaha, sounds about right, over here, a hour bake install turned into a whole day...what do you know, a week later the brakes are finial in!!!😁😕☹️. Same with a metal pannel, a few hours of cutting and welding needed and 2 weeks later we finally got it in the car
Honda 1000 pioneer would of been better.
Those would be cylinder jugs is the term for them.
Love Can-Am's, nothing beats them performance wise, but parts are expensive and hard to come by. I need shock bushings for the right side of my 16' Outlander 570 XMR, and they told me they don't sell them (I checked they don't) and that i need to replace the shocks at $70 each ($280 as its both on the right side and you need to replace them in pairs). I even looked online and the only thing I found was that people buy aftermarket bushings and end up having to machine them to make them fit correctly. I checked polaris out of curiosity and they do sell individual bushing for real cheap so it seems kind of scammy on can-am's part in my opinion.
When ur so early u can’t steal any comments for likes
I’m having deja Vu lol
love seeing you guys are working on the old MMU can't wait for more videos
Learned to drive a tractor on a “U” on the family farm in Canada. Also had the smaller “Z” model.
My last Minnie was a G-1000! A lot was actually similar on both your "U" and my "G-1000", an if it ain't broke, don't fix it attitude by MM. That oil filter canister being one of those things.
Leg arms that perfect for you
Best in there class can am makes an awesome machine
If this was any other farm channel they would have took out a loan for another 100 thousand dollar tractor to power the fertilizer auger.
Awesome Machine! Man I've never seen a bed that big on a side by side!! Great looking machine! When ur all done I'll come get it bhahahha #stoneyridgefarmer
That big bed allows you to haul the big lunch you'll need for the trip back 😊
We have a 4 door defender, its a 2019 and we already have 9,000 miles on it. Never had a problem
Impressive
I haven't put that many miles on my Camry in the last year
We got 3 300 Honda fourtrax’s a 1988 1995 and a 2000 and all 3 of them still run like they are brand new and we recently bought a Honda pioneer 700.
Hondas are pretty bullet proof, a friend of mine sent his down a river, drained the oil and pulled the spark plug, cranked a few times, new oil and plug back in and they've been going strong ever since.
Welker Farms Inc We’ve never had them flooded but boy they’ve took a beating but they keep truckin
Honestly I wouldn’t paint it. It has a good look going for it. Just redo the emblems and logos but I wouldn’t change the paint at all. Do some polishing to the stainless and other bare metal parts
Put some kerosene in there and turn it over a few times that kerosene helps get the sludge out better than the diesel fuel.
Well, kerosene is really just diesel #1, so..........
Awesome that you're bringing the old iron back to life! Too often the old equipment is just scrapped. Keep on resurrecting them, love it!
Its a crossing between a 4x4 and a f117 stealth fighter.... ver cool indeed😎😉👍
Still appreciate your videos family welker!! Go on making such videos💪🏽💪🏽
have you ever heard of AEROKROIL? "The oil that creeps" It blows WD away. you guys should try it out I'm sure you will love it for rusty bolts
The nut and bolt method works really good cleaning tanks. I use to play with old motor cycle. I’d put apple cider vinegar and nuts and bolts in the tank. Ratchet strap it to the rear wheel on the pickup, jack the pumpkin up and put it in drive. Set the parking brake just a bit and it would be set to tumble for 30 minutes. That method clean most of the tanks. On the really bad tanks electrolysis was used, also a very cool method.
I love how side by sides have longer beds than a lot of pickups now. Looking at you Chevy Avalanche/
Avalanche beds are 63 inches. Not really a truck bed, but then again the Avalanche is not really a truck, more of an SUV with a bed. Kind of a heavy "Ute" if you're from "down under"!
I heard it run in one of your video .
Dang, I was *really* hoping to see some proper diesel Kubota RTVs... seems like there’s a couple farms that have recently gotten new utility vehicles and they’ve all been non-Kubota and gassers... is everyone scared of diesel now thanks to FraudWagen? Shame to see such recreational consumer grade short-lifespan vehicles that guzzle down dangerous specialty fuel that doesn’t store well (gasoline) being used in place of proper efficient, long-lived Diesels that will run on anything with a BTU value above zero. 😂
I have a video on my UA-cam channel of how to remove that broken plug. I broke one exactly like that in a chevy 350. Aaron Radd
Minneapolis Moline power is evidence that creme doesn't always rise to the top. Provide proof that there was greater power. JD green? I don't think so. Can anyone Provide proof that a 4020 ever outpulled a 670super? Didn't think so. An M, or Super M over a UB? Didn't think so. Oliver 1755? What is your excuse for lack of options today?
So glad to see you using there old MM tractor. I grew up and started driving at six years old on a MM. Makes me so glad to see it and know your gonna use it. Can't wait for the next video👍‼️‼️
That’s a lot of work to replace a cracked fuel line, sounds like a project I would get myself into! Love your videos, keep up the good work!
hey guys, just an fyi from someone that has done many fuel tank repairs. once the internal sealing has been done (always a good thing to do) I have always had good luck carefully applying fiberglass resin over tank. just a VERY thin coat don't try to do any buildups.let cure flip tank do other sides. if surface wire brushed and clean it strengthens any pinholes (even those not thru tank) and stabilizes surface.takes a day to paint/cure/flip/paint but has always (over about 100 tanks) worked well for me.
Does anyone know were I can get a REALLY cheap tractor in the $500 and below like that miniapolis moline? If you do let me know
I Bought a 2012 850 Diesel Gator with a 4' Power Dump Box and Power Steering! It's Sweet! My Sons had been bugging me to get a SideXSide for years as I'm North of 70yo! I'm now happy to relinquish my ATV Saddling-UP! The Gator's a work horse, used Daily!
How I do gas tanks if rusted a little inside,get a couple pounds- of pea rock,there small,dump inside!shake it, it may be nice and shinny inside,my 43 Massey Harris still has original tanks. I’ll always fix when possible. I didn’t notice a fuel filter,I’ll look when you get back? Agparts has plenty of MM parts. I’d feel lucky heads are not cracked between valves,it’s very common amongst the old MMs. I love the old tractors!
WHY This Tractor WHY Not a Old Case like a Case 830 Sence You are Working with Case And so far I've Only seen One Case Tractor on your Farm OR You just kinda Like Other UA-cam Channels Who Just use Them for Part's Discounts Freebies and Testing New Equipment Like UA-cam Guy Millennial Farmer with His John Deere Tractors does NOW please don't Get Me Wrong l Really Like your channel and I don't believe that You are like that at all Hopefully You NEVER get that way I Enjoy your Videos Good Luck in 2020 with your Crops
Hope it’s a honda utv ??? Wrangler Star just got a new one and there’s has a third seat....Honda makes some amazing products.
I was like you guys had two big red trikes....,(the main reason why I think the coronovirus couldn’t kill me. Cause after all if you survived those things you could survive nuclear fall out.)
Than we had at one point three Honda four wheelers and me and my dad did pretty much everything to actually murder those bikes and they just kept coming back. I finally went to a side by side 10 years ago I guess. From chasing cattle to fixing fences I sure do like them a lot better than their smaller cousins.
If you're interested, I have two videos on my channel of the restoration of my grandpa's 47 Moline ZTN. Moline's are fun to work on because the motors are so unique.
I guessed a couple of Polaris', but I was somewhat right. Me,...I am a Polaris guy. 1000XP
Love the can am buggys
We went with the commander 800 for farm use
The "farm based" ones like the are great but they lack speed and power to really muster animals and travel down the road at decent speed
Put 500hrs on our commander in th last 2 years
Great for mustering sheep and rock picking as well as crop inspection
Hondas don't die. I agree, but thanks for helping out your Canadian Brothers. CanAm is great.. BRAAAAAAP!!!! #BRP
A $1500 pickup can do the same thing as that $15000 utv.....
not in the snow and mud. plus gets much better fuel mileage
Cut my teeth on a Minneapolis Moline UB. Hand clutch and a big spring under the seat. Traded for an M5. Sixty five hp. It was our workhorse.
But will that Canned Ham pull 60ft of cultivator is the question!? lol Also love old Iron, I own three IHC's, two Oliver's and a Massey Harris, but no MM's yet. Good luck with yours... can't wait to hear it run.👍
Cool video guys! That old stick you guys found in the gas take write my name ‘ Tyler’ on it and hang it on a wall some place please! 😃 haha love the videos too you guys are awsome!
I took a broken plug out of an engine for a mate. It broke off and left the thread in without a hex or an electrode. I had a square type easy out set that are tapered but have a machined edge that digs in when it is turned backwards. Sprayed liberally with WD40.I started with a 3/8 bar on this 3/8 square removal tool and tapped it in. No go. 1/2' ratchet with 3/8 reducer. No go. More WD40. Used long 1/2" breaker bar. We got a slight eeek. Only a fraction of movement. tried again, nothing. More WD 40. Waited a few minutes, tried again, another fraction, we repeated this proces for about 2 hours. Got the broken bit out. Time was the thing and patience. I could not believe we got it out.
Awesome tractor!! Our neighbor down the block has a couple that he has in his garage and they are so cool. I Just got a tractor given to me this passed weekend so looks like we both have a project on hand. I'll be working on my new to me 1955 Allis Chalmers WD45 Narrow front. Awesome Can-Ams by the way!! I have had issues with spark plugs like that, and My grandpa showed me to use kids Crayons... yes... crayons... let them melt and they soak into the threads and rust. worked for me every time, also with spark plugs, use Square easy-outs, not round ones, the round ones will try and spread the metal, square ones will actually bite into the metal and not spread the metal outward. Wix 51114 oil filter for the moline special U
You have no idea how stoked I am about you fixing this, you need to drag the other one in the shop too, even if you don’t get it fixed as fast that’s ok just make them run and drive like there supposed you can always make them pretty later in the winter,,, would love it if you would check my channel out I need help lol
Very cool. Grew up on a MM propane burner. With modern fuel and ignition your putting on it. I’d have the heads cut down raise the compression. They were only like 5-5.5/1. Lol
We found the side by sides didn’t make much sense at least here in NZ. They cost about 30,000 nzd new which is quite a lot and the maintenance ended up costing a small fortune, tires are more expensive and just parts in general. We ended up getting some old Toyota rav 4s (late 1990 models) and put tractor grip tires on them in the winter. Safer than the side by side, way cheaper, get them for 5000 to 10000 dollars. They have heaters in the winter, airbags etc can do 100 km/h on the road. we don’t bother making them road legal as our farm doesn’t have much public road access. If they break down badly it’s no big deal, just get another one. Get at least 3 for the price of one side by side. And parts are easy to get, one of the most popular small suv’s NZ.
I really liked this video . I like old tractors.
I have one,it is 1966 IH 414 my dad bought new . Got in running last weekend . I rebuilt the motor 20 years ago but it hadn't run in a long time . Sounds like brand knew . Hardly any paint on it but I am going to play with it this summer. It was the main tractor for a 250 acre farm and ran everyday summer and winter ,for 25 years Snow ,manure ,cultivating .planting corn ,baling ect.
Boys there is a channel named oldfarmjunk his name is Richard and he is always working on old tractors.He goes to sales and buys junk and fixes or sells parts and then scraps . He likes IH M and Allis and he has some Moline's If you are stuck for parts he could probably get them for you but Moline probably has after market parts you can buy brand new.
I will be looking to hear the old girl run .Good Luck
My brother uses 3 Japanese import Kei-trucks. Two Honda Acty from the first generation, and a Suzuki Carry from 2002, but these are nice too, especially the 4 people carrier one. Hope you guys enjoy them for years to come, i hear thesee CanAms are decent machines.