Craig Owens Hates Rock Music - Emo Nite Radio Ep. 4
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2022
- Craig Owens sits down with Emo Nite Radio host Morgan Freed to discuss getting involved with emo nite, being a forever musician, and forcing art.
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Craig Owens is How I Met My Husband. Cerca 2007 Chiodos Bone Palance Ballet Tour at the Masquerade in Atlanta, Georgia.
Thank you for bringing a guy I never would have met otherwise into my life, and now, 15 years later is my husband.
i recently toured with craig, i sing for a band called until i wake and we were on the crown the empire tour together. i was so nervous this dude thought i sucked or was too cool to hang out, but turns out hes just very introverted, and that made me feel so much more connected to him because im the exact same way. social interaction is very akward for me and i suck at having conversations with people because i feel like i have nothing to say and i dont know how to chit chat. i got to have a few interactions with craig and he is honestly the nicest sweetest dude. wish i could have spent more time with him haha. im also the same way about consuming certain content, like dahmer, dark evil shit about death just makes me depressed and think about it all day. im the same exact way as morgan when i read tho
I got inside my head on a whim and have been jamming it every morning at the gym. Weird I was singing along after my second spin, I never learn lyrics that quickly, the cleans and hooks are so catchy.
@@k1xnt thank you 🤘❤️ that's sick to hear
Craig is king at making people feel included. He lights up the room but shares the light.
Just wanted to let you know your song Sinking Under Is played a lot in my workout playlist! I also have 500 followers so I hope some more people get to discover you, your band is awesome!
I was the exact same way for about the first 35 years of my life and then I had a spiritual awakening and now I am one of the most outspoken and direct people you will ever meet. But everything I say is not attributed to arrogance or pride, but through experience. I’ve learned how to just be real with people. And many times people don’t like it but I’ve found it’s much easier for me to live that way. Thanks for Sharing.
Grew up listening to everything this dude has EVER made and the fact he's never changed his vision really makes me respect him. I'm 28 now, listening to new DRUGS on repeat, feeling like I'm 12/13 again back when I did the same with Chidios and Sounds. Forever will love this dudes work.
I loved the last Chiodos record. As a fan and a listener, it didn't sound like a failure at all. Regardless of what Craig thinks, I am happy they made that record. It's sad to hear about the situation they were in during recording process.
For real! I think the community's opinion of that, and even Illuminaudio has shifted a lot over the years.
Though it's clearly not the same style, I feel both those records retained Chiodos' musical and stylistic aesthetic.
It was definitely a different direction for Chiodos, more in line with Illuminaudio, but clearly still an important point in Craig's musical evolution.
Nah devil fucking slapped. Only one chaotic song on there that’s hard to listen to but that album id put 2nd under bone palace. Alls well gets 3rd. IMO as far as a listening experience.
Devil was absolute perfection. Felt like Chiodos all grown up and exactly where us OG scene kids were with things.
I loved both albums.
I love that album too lol. I DEFINITELY don’t consider it a failure )by any means). It may actually be my favorite Chiodos album if anything. If Craig sees this, everything you have done is a hit. No failures here, just fucking successes!!! Oh, and new DRUGS slaps. Thanks again for the music and the memories Craig!
Two of the most genuine dudes. Hearing both of you all speak is soothing and nice on the ears. I love this so much
I'm only half way through this episode but it's so, super needed. Thank you both for being so open and vulnerable.
Crazy thing is that the Sounds of Animals fighting and Cinematic sunrise where around the same years but totally different styles in music and writing too. Craig’s ongoing ability as an artist are impressive 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I like the interviewer for doing this, but he’s kinda lame with his questions. It’s awkward, and almost as if he’s making things up as he goes. He’ll start a question, and you can see him think out how he should orchestrate it in his mind , and it’s awkward in his delivery. I appreciate his ambition, and what his vision is with this podcast/interview show. Maybe have a list of what questions he wants to ask. He needs more structure in his interview.. Also, lay off injecting your own life and memories into a question aimed at the guest.. just my two sense. It’s effing rad what he’s doing. So take good with bad and vice versa.
It’s not an interview. It’s a podcast and these are his friends for the most part, be thankful for the content
Yeah I think there's a reason he's doing the interview and you're typing a comment lol relating to someone is how you make a connection, and pausing to collect your thoughts and form a concise idea is not a bad thing no matter how much you don't like it :p
I completely agree, it was annoying waiting for the interviewer to spit out what he's trying to say. Only cause I love Craig I sat through it but there SHOULD be more structure/organization with the questions out of respect for Craig's time and presence. That would've laid out Craig's legacy and talent a lot more clearly, as it deserves.
@@jabbaboy1 the interviewer himself refers to it as an interview. Shut up.
It's "two cents" not "two sense".
I love that I got the opportunity to listen to this conversation. I felt I was in the room. I loved Chidodos! Baby you wouldn’t last a minute on the creek will always be one of my favorites
I want one of these SUPER DEEP, like TRULY exploring the process of the art & the characteristics of the person, with Jonny Craig!!!!
Chiodos and Craig will always have a special place in my teenage years. Still my all time favorite to this day. D.R.U.G.S is amazing too.
Craig was nice enough to produce a record of mine years ago in the "darker times" and I'll tell you what this guy is the most genuine dude great interview guys
I think the interviewer is not weird. Dude I really appreciate you. It’s a big deal talking to people you look up to and respect .
Also nothing wrong with being weird ! I have been told I was strange. I don’t mind . I truly appreciate how Craig was willing to share some very true and deeply sincere feelings in this interview. Dear Craig the song I am everything that is normal .. it is one of the most beautiful and heart wrenching songs . Thank you for all you do. Bone palace ballet and each album are albums I’ve bought and listened to quite a lot . I want to listen more to DRUgs I was so impressed by the acoustic version of Gold !! Thank you so much
I don't know if I'm misreading this but I think Craig's feeling of burnout mixed with cringe was both such a blessing and a devastating hit to the early-2010s rock.
I think it was super important for artists like Craig to spread their wings and find their musical identity.
But I also think it's depressing that for a good 10-year period, rock music outside of "the classics" was seen as "immature" and "cringy" and it's audience looked down upon.
But I think it's only because of that period that we're having the resurgence we're having now, the mix of nostalgia and reflection that made so many realize the importance of the last 20 years of rock music and being able to shamelessly embrace it. That shouldn't be devalued by what manufactured projects that did exist.
Those down years also allowed genre experimentation so beyond anything before 2010, showing both the strengths of rock and genres it could be paired with.
Thank you for this awesome interview. You’re getting better and better man. The last DRUGS album was honestly Craig’s best work in my opinion.
Love this so much and continue to love & appreciate Craig. This was so needed!! 🤙🏻🖤✨
As sad as I am to admit this (as I was and still am a huge fan of the Isles & Glaciers EP), Craig is absolutely right... it cant be recreated and even if it were to be recreated, we would forever compare any new I&G to the original EP, which, as you said in the interview, is in a lot of people's "top 3". That was such a special moment in time and it would be near impossible to replicate that. I think the only thing that would make sense is if one day, there was some kind of live reunion, even if it was just a once off. Great interview by the way!
Recently listened to All's Well That Ends Well in its entirety and last time I did was probably 2008. Really didn't think I would enjoy because my tastes in music has grown so much since then but holy crap that album for me has aged like fine wine.
Yeah a lot of stuff from that time just doesn’t hold up, like some of it almost sounds cheesy or the lyrics are kinda cringey at 30+ years old but alls well is amazing still.
Thank you so much for sharing this interview so great and insightful. Both of you are cool guys ♥️♥️
God I love these interviews. This style of personal analysis is so cool.
I can see why this sort of thing didn't so much work with Pierce the Veil, as good as that interview still was, it's harder to get that intimate as a first-try with a band who hasn't interviewed in half a decade sidearmed by two oher band members functioning to pad the intensity. I think Craig's history with the scene and reserved-but-intricate personality connects so well with this.
As much as I like the every-detail-revealed interviews or the comedy-session interviews, this brings something so unique that I think fits super well with Craig. I'd love to see if this style would work with Vic in the future.
Huge fan of Craig, so great to hear his thoughts on everything!
I used to be a concert booker. Chiodos was my first decent size show I booked before my booking thing really took off. This band will forever have a spot in my heart/life. Everything he touchs is gold. Wish him nothing but the best in music and health and everything in between.
That's incredible
It's the excited, "I brought you gifts!" That put a huge smile on my face!
"I am Devil" was a huge album for me. thank you
Cool to hear from Craig and awesome conversation. As a fan I could only assume things about Craig, and I wanted to know him, this helps. Great musician!
So glad he hasn't stopped making music.
Craig is the fucking man. Loved hearing him talk about hyperpop artists. He should bring back badxchannels but w hyperpop elements.
Morgan major improvement since the PTV episode. 🦾 The kellin and Landon episodes were also very good.
16:38 Speaking of this. When D.R.U.G.S. fell apart back in the day it was because he wasn't being a good person. It was Craig's fault. John Feldmann is the person who produced their debut album, got them signed, and really helped the band in many ways. They had a scene supergroup lineup and were slated for big things with the success of the album, and Craig decided it was a good idea to sleep with the wife of the head of the label. Needless to say, the label pulled the plug. Craig's actions lit a fuse that couldn't be put out, and everything went up in flames. That's the real reason D.R.U.G.S. ended the way it did. Craig has actually been the source of really most of the issues that have happened in any band he's been in that imploded or had real member problems. Apparently they is the complete opposite of what he says here that he strives to be. On the bright side, there's always room for improvement.
Objectively, as Craig's biggest fan: this is 100% facts.
His attitude (alongside Jonny's and Vic's) killed Isles & Glaciers, his drug use killed chiodos, his sluttiness killed DRUGS, and apparently, his own boredom and adhd killed badXchannels.
He's like a sun, burning bright and setting everything on fire that gets too close.
I'll still buy his merch tho.
@@jeffbrownstain Exactly. I'm a fan of Craig the musician, and the person Craig chooses to present on camera at times. Unfortunately, Craig the person off camera a man plagued by issues. There's a reason everything around him always falls apart.
I really loved the last chiodos album. Devil was great thru and thru
I liked a few of the songs but Craig is absolutely right when he said “that wasn’t chiodos.” It sounded more like DRUGS. Alls well and bone palace will never have anything close that sound like them. Chiodos was a once in a lifetime band. 99% of all bands sounds similar to each other, if not the same. Chiodos wasn’t one of them.
Loved watching this and getting a little glimpse into Craig's mind.
I would love to know which video Morgan mentioned where felt he understood Craig !
I’ve seen Chiodos 15x and Craig got the crowd to sing something every time
I haven't heard his voice in an interview context since like 2013. This is super cool and unexpected lmao
Interviewer gives me the creeps
Craig.. I hope you see this. You brought soft spoken but big personality to life. Thank you for making everyone feel included in your shows. Best craig owens quote ... "Please respect the household and have a good time '. Then fuckin high fives everyone in the room and shreds
so glad we found this show, 1989-2022
❤
We love you so much Craig! 🤍 thank you for all of the music you have given us! Forever grateful for you keep going dude!!!
Craig Owens gave a flawless interview (as he always does), but the host really needs some training on how to give an effective interview. The gentleman seemed at times unorganized and unclear in a series of sections of the interview, and he could really use some coaching on his verbiage, sentence structure, direction, and delivery. Simply put, I think the host needs more training, but once he gets that, I believe that he could very much excel. The host seems like a GREAT GUY and I can tell he is VERY PASSIONATE about what he does (as he stated) so with a little direction, practice, and repetition, I truly believe that he could take his podcast to a whole new level. To the host: if you see this post, then I hope you do not take my feedback in a negative demeanor in any way (as that is NOT my intention at all), I can see that you have talent and potential, I just feel like a little training would help you organize and maximize the abilities that you already possess😊. Professionally I’m a master Trainer so I analyze everything unintentionally due to the fact that it is what I do for a living and when I see an opportunity to help someone I always do (thus why I became a trainer in the first place). Thanks for doing this interview. I love Craig Owens and I will always be a fan so it was nice to see more about his journey and where he currently is in life.
Man, I love the new DRUGS record. Still have it on repeat.
I couldn't get into it
Garbage
I enjoy this very much.❤
Also... why would you barred out while interviewing craig....
this was a great podcast absolutely love this guy
Holy shit you guys are like speaking, Word for Word everything that I think in film and even talk about doing things same way that I do them. I’m a Pisces and I’ve been awake for several years and I understand exactly every word y’all are saying.
Be careful, kiddo. Don't feed your delusions so thoroughly.
Other people are, in fact, real people.
Aint this ep 4?
I'm only about 15 minutes in, and this is just the second conversation I've listened to on this channel, but I'm noticing a very prevalent theme. The guy hosting the podcast constantly makes everything about himself, what HE'S done, what HE likes, and so on. Why even have guests if you're always going to find a way to just talk about yourself anyway? Just do a solo podcast and talk about yourself the entire time.
13:11 For example. Just has to make it about himself and use talking about Craig's accomplishments as a way to toot his own horn and make himself sound good. It seems like a combination of ego mixed with a deep rooted inferiority complex.
Someone had to say it.
Guilt and shame are the lowest vibrations a person can experience. It’s good to identify your faults but don’t believe for a second that they define who you are. Observe and then execute! Love you, guys!
Guilt and Shame are reflecting and help develop self-awareness, something you desperately need.
Would love to see Craig return to TSOAF, just putting that out there in the universe.
Got a photo with Craig over a decade ago at a warped. Had some chiodos lyrics tattooed on me and asked for a photo at a meet and greet and he didn’t have time, but when I saw him walking away I asked one more time (sorry for pestering you Craig 😂) and he said for sure and was the nicest dude in the world. Much love forever.
The summer before bone palace came out they played a free show in front of the rock and roll hall of fame, the night before they played warped tour in Cleveland. They had just played Cincinnati earlier in the day and I saw on MySpace they were advertising this free show and got my dad to drive me and my friend, we were going into 8th or 9th grade lol. Before the show we went into the rock and roll hall of fame and walked into the free area in the basement and there was Craig Owens just walking by himself. Me and my friend said hi and I took a picture of the two of them on my razr phone 😂 and was too shy to ask him to take another picture so I didn’t get one with him. But it was a cool experience and great show
Craig Owens!! ❤
This is written off my memory alone;
The Chiodos Bros. - 1 album, 5 songs
Chiodos, 3 albums with Craig, around 40 songs
The Sound of Animals Fighting, Cinematic Sunrise, and Isles & glaciers - 1 album each, about 30 songs
Two solo albums, if we count the rereleases on Gold, about 25 songs
D.R.U.G.S. (kinda out of order) - 2 albums, 30 songs...
Yeah, that's a lot of music.
Then we count Unshown by King Yosef, those singles and the album done under badXchannels, Stay Distracted by Jon Connor, Don't Let Me Fall by Kuniva....
I'm sure I'm forgetting or never even heard at least a dozen other tracks....
Craig has put out more music than I've had significant events in my life.
yo the interview barred out or whaaa? hope he’s alright tbh..
Two edibles before the show nbd.
Need a Tyler Carter interview. He hosted emo nite in Atlanta with Kellin Quinn for y’all. Y’all did Kellin but haven’t touched on Tyler ik the bs. But it is as allegations nothing ever got proven. So that’s whack. Same way he got kicked from issues. “Guilty until proven innocent” kinda vibe. Lol. Do it. And even ask him about it if he’d be down. Or even Michael bohn how issues and rise records kicked him to go for a radio style
Omfg I love that Craig knows brakence music🖤🖤🖤
Craig has been a hard working musician and it shows. It’s unfortunate that his most successful band kinda made him out to be a selfish and self absorbed person… I could be wrong about that… But that didn’t stop him. Cheers to him and his longevity! Bellingham Washington showing love!
Where do I find the shirt
I can see that you are a very wise person Craig
Craig is goals
Super awesome #Chiodos #CraigOwens #DestroyRebuildUntilGodShows interview
Ayy Craig mentioning Sunami 🔥 real recognize real!
What was the gift at the end? Plant holder?
This is a very conscious interview
Bit of a rough start to the interview but once it gets moving it is a great interview. It turned out to be an introspective, self reflective journey with lots of thought provoking questions. Craig seems humble but I'm unsure if he likes to do interviews or not, it's hard to tell.
i think he likes doing interviews with solid journalists and maybe actual people he enjoys. but this interviewer SUCKS
I love Craig Owens. I always laugh when I listen to 'Cemetary Weather' and you have two of the most beautiful voices in rock singing and then Vic Fuentes starts singing....
I googled his net worth and had a good lol. numbers ranging from like 1.5 mil to over 57 million. thanks internet. that helped a lot..
This is tough to listen to im sorryb
11:35 🤔 Yeah, definitely don't say that.
Craig the 🐐 fr
Craig an OG of the game
Wow, he just name dropped chat pile 🤘🏽
Jason aalon Butler 💯💯 he's one. The OG.
35:58 "Listening to your music YESTERDAY" Now that was a more natural and truthful statement. But it completely contradicts what he said earlier in the conversation, which seemingly was a lie. Because earlier he said he's been listening to it and ONLY it for a week.
Is that Bert McCracken on his shirt or am I over thinking? Or Phil Collins
Phil
The last chiodos album was perfect
thats what i thought too. it was their best stuff. i mean sure, baby you wouldnt is like my teenage anthem, but 3am slapped.
@@richiepopik what??? Lol I love the album too but 3 am? Lol
@@shunsuikyoraku5428😂😂😂
I really have a hard time trying to like the host. It always feels like he invites his favorite musicians just to tell'em how he discovered their music and nothing else. Ten seconds of the guest talking and 5 minutes of the host rambling about his personal experiences just to end in something that could have taken 5 seconds.
No idea who the host it. Someone help me out.
I heard his first human words when he was talking about rock
man i always thought their last album was fire!
I love Craigs opinion on everything so damn much! He's such a cool dude that makes such perfect art, and cares so much about the quality regardless of how influential anything he has created has been for someone in the past. It has to be original too. Bitch, most of his art old, new, solo shit, or co-creating has made me cry for 100 different reasons. Lol Also, Brakence is amazing as fuck I saw him live as soon as I could 😂 also Devil is by far my favorite album out of anything ever created in my opinion ever since it came out, and I've been mad at myself for the past year considering to make the new Brakence album Hypochondriac as my favorite after so many years because I do love it that much. Something about Devil is still better to me though. 😅 Devil has lyrics that are nostalgic at this point, and nothing will replace how unique the lyrics and sound are versus anything else you can find 😅😂
Craig Owens is seriously, without a doubt, one of the G.O.A.T.'s of the alternative rock scene, and just an all-around artistically brilliant person.
That said, it was annoying waiting for the interviewer to spit out what he's trying to say throughout the whole conversation. Only cause I love Craig I sat through it but there SHOULD be more structure/organization with the questions out of respect for Craig's time and presence. That would've laid out Craig's legacy and talent a lot more clearly, as it deserves.
This dud interviewer, who obviously doesn't take the privilege of his role seriously, is probably "difficult to work with," cause he doesn't know how to take constructive criticism and do better than THIS. Supposedly it's bc he "knows what he wants" but that doesn't always mean what you're putting out is quality, and him joking about his production team getting upset for his dumb m*sturb*ting story, that added NOTHING to the conversation, and even confused Craig, is a an example of that. He should be grateful of having a skilled team that allows him to even do this, not mock them for having standards.
Like Craig said, "I'm still actively trying to be a better person and not be a pain in the ass to anybody," RIGHT AFTER the interviewer asked him if he could relate to being difficult...take the hint, dude. If you're going to host a radio show, and get paid to do so, put in some effort out respect for those that come on, your team and YOURSELF. Viewership will go down and subscribers will become stagnant if this host stays and/or continues this mediocre effort. The concept is brilliant, don't let it die with poor execution.
you guys look like brothers
I look for One Day all women will become monsters (live) like mad. I just have 3 videos, very bad audio, and 2 worthy covers. Please, that AMAZING live performance needs to be shown again. By a fan from Spain, regards
This podcast needs a new host so bad.
Not even five minutes in and I hate this dude so much
I dont see anything wrong with this host
He’s actually a great host - but I feel there’s something bubbling under the surface with this guy.
@@Itsyaboy88 yeah like he sucks
Yo he’s very sweet. Gedddafuggouddahere
I think everyone that loved Chiodos felt exactly like Craig did about the last album they did. It just had no Chiodos vibe. Music can be slow close but so far away. Then, not having Jason was a problem with the ingredients. Honest. Chiodos needs Jason's leads to have the feel. Weirdly, I love Craig, but Illuminaudio had that feel. A little different but still Chiodos.
I gotta say, this was a chore to get through.
Y’all are fucking twins lol
Trent Reznor, Jonathon Davis
It’s called emo nite
@@wheaty39 they couldn’t think of many life long musicians so I tossed a couple
I think they can be Emo sometimes 😅
every time craig said “sure” i know he was just over it from this interviewer.. bro needs some guidance lol
why isnt he touring with the sound of animals fighting anymore wtf.....
Because it isn't 2006 anymore. I know, weird concept but it's true.
By the way Craig, 'cringe' is in fact a synonym to 'embarrassing', but only when used by undereducated, chronically-online internet users.
Just so you know.
Anthony Green has been in a multitude of things.
When dude brought him up then didn’t ask anything was a let down for me
The interviewer looks like homeless Craig Owens
GET A NEW HOST ASAP
I straight up feel harassed having to listen to this dudes dream theater story. What the fuck man
craig is trippin...Devil was dope
Man… I was so excited for this and this podcast was awful. Host is terrible
Stunning to me this guy gets people. Hes an awful interviewer in my eyes. Clicking away lol soooo boring
Dude… Dahmer was amazing. Y’all fucked up…
Haha ah man, I feel what he’s saying. It is horrifying. Stunning in its brutality. I did learn lots of stuff I didn’t know about the case but it was so good I was willing to go through it. But… to each their own. Was just being silly. Peace
Legendary guest, horrible host. Felt like the host was interviewing himself at some points + very egotistical as if he’s on the same level as Craig
Have you ever had tattoos on your glanses?