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- canister filter cleaning for saltwater aquarium. you must clean trapped fish waste and uneaten food that collects in the canister filter WEEKLY! or it will become a nitrate factory. nitrates are the last stage of the biological cycle in salt water aquariums. nitrates are bad for fish and corals and must be removed from the water and filtration media. this video shows how I clean my canister filter which I use in my quarantine hospital aquarium tank. I clean it weekly and sometimes every few days.
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I believe this is why people suffer from going through a mini cycle. They wait too long to clean their filter. You have to get rid of all the waste and actually clean your stuff. I rinse my sponges under tap water (I have chlorine in my tap water) and believe it's good to do this from time to time so all the weak bacteria are killed off, and more of the hardier bacteria thrives. The only time I ever had a mini cycle was when I overcrowded a tank. I only do freshwater but wanted to see how you saltwater guys do it. Thanks for the video.
thanks. you're right. many people just wait and are lazy. it must be done. i always just replaced the foam weekly since i wanted no trace of anything left. i believe canister filters should be used to FILTER and not house bacteria. in saltwater, we use live rock and sand and other ways to house bacteria. great points, thanks for watching!
He's so pessimistic it's a mood why can't I have a teacher like this
Awesome video as always!! I'm not far off setting up my 100 gallon corner tank as a reef tank. I've done freshwater for years and decided now saltwater is for me now. Your videos are informative and entertaining, thanks for the tips.
+Steven R I feel like I'm talking to my past self, since I'm also Steve R! Thanks for stopping by! It is more expensive, takes more time, but if you go slow and follow vids here you'll be fine. we are all progressing together. start slow! ask questions each step of the way!
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Awesome!!! Thank you so much, this was so helpful!!! Informative and entertaining, as always! Your channel is great because you actually care and joke around, unlike some on here that are super serious and never answer questions. I agree, those guys at the fish stores can give some insanely bad information..it's no wonder we have to go through all this crap to learn most of this on our own, the hard way. Luckily, there are informative channels like yours to help us now! When I cleaned my canister not too long ago I rinsed in tap water instead of some water pulled from my tank's and it killed my torch corals:( I do have a question though, how often do you change your carbon? And do you just rinse it when you are cleaning the filter if you do reuse it? If you ever want to try another canister filter, you should check out the sunsun 304B canister filter with a built in UV sterilizer and 525gph under $100 on amazon. I run two of them on my 110 gal and really like mine now that I know how to use it correctly, thanks to you!! I use bio balls as well, and yes you must take care of the bacteria on the balls, LOL!!
+Ashley L Ashley, thank you so much for the nice words. they really mean a lot! getting really nice comments like this makes me want to turn out better material. i'm really glad it was able to help you out. i really love this canister filter. i do not use carbon in it since this is being used in my quarantine aquarium where i dose copper to kill the ich parasite. carbon will remove copper from the water, which is something you don't want to do. I actually never use copper. i read somewhere carbon affects tang fish in an odd way and i have seen them act a little odd. once i stopped using carbon they were fine. anyway, when i was using it briefly, i would use new carbon each time and change it out once a month. i will look into that canister filter you mentioned. i remember you mentioned that before. i think i'll be buying another one for use in my main tank. i want to experiment with connecting the canister filter to the pvc that drains into the sump. the flow would go right into the filter. i want to get away from sump socks. either way, i think i will get rid of the socks and use another canister filter in the sump, along with protein skimmer. i will of course do a show on this whenever it happens. thanks again for stopping by and i'm really glad you like the channel. thanks for the compliments! i'm serious but i have to make it fun.
I have the same filtration system, I was tire of looking around for this type of video, and you just save my fishes lives, thank you so much, super interested and educational video. 👍
great! glad you found it.
Rotter Tube Reef, one more thing, which type of water (saltwater or freshwater) should be use on the tank to refill the water consumed by the canister filter after the installation, since this will be taking away around 1-1.5 gallons from the display tank. Thank you
one gallon isn't much if it's a larger tank. i have always just used freshwater.
Rotter Tube Reef awesome, thanks again, I have a tall column 15 gallons nano tank, 1 gallon will make a difference on mine lol
yes it would......just have some saltwater ready.
Good morning Steve! I love that video! You were very clear and very easy to understand! Good sense of humor, I I like that!
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+Mario Robidoux Good morning Mario. Thank you so much. it was a fun one to do.
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+SuperSmashRiolu awesome! welcome aboard!
thanks for the video I just got a canister filter and I'm a beginner it was very helpful
cool. make sure you change the filter media at least once a week. this will depend on how many fish you have and how large they are.
ok, ok...I get it....your telling me to stop being lazy and clean my damn filter. Heh heh.
Personally, for my 75gallon fresh water, that is heavily planted, I let mine go a month, but I'm lazy, and its an extra large filter. Besides, the plants do some filtering of their own.
Good vid, lots of great info. I would tend to aggree, if your using a canister for salt water, your going to have to keep that sucker clean!
Laterz!
+gutsanglory1 hey what's up man. good to hear from you. In the future I may get a regular size canister filter like this one to aid in cleaning my sump, and placing the return tube in the pump section of the sump. this instead of filter socks. i would rather clean this out weekly than to change those nasty socks and wash them.
Thank you ☺️
I liked the filter sock vid also the option floss bottle. I was using two socks on my African mbuna tank. Cleaning weekly with the hose bloody messy. Don't need to now thanks to my heater fail I came home to 50 boiled fish now that stank. Moving on.
+Ross Ellis really? that sux! sorry to hear
Great videos bro. I just started a 65 gallon saltwater tank for the first time. I used dry Rock that was once live rock. I figured the dead stuff would start the cycle or is this a bad idea???
the dead stuff won't hurt since it's a new tank. could cause an issue in an established tank....you'll be fine. good job. congrats. take it slow and ask questions. many great people here on the channel. check out our facebook group as well....video description has a link.
Rotter Tube Reef thanks for the reply. It's amazing how clear the tank can be with ammonia, nitrite and nitrates skyrocketing. My nitrates are surprisingly at 40 ppm. Should I do a water change or just let the tank keep going. No fish or anything alive in there yet.
I'm doing research to start a salt water tank and I was wondering what's good filtration for the tank since I got a fluval fx6 on clearance for $150 and wanted to use it on a salt water tank...so I guess this answers my question thanks dude
you'll be fine dude. no problem, welcome.
ok by the way awesome channel
Have you noticed little white bugs showing up inside your filter overtime? They are slimy. I noticed these a while back when one was on my hand. They creep me out so much. I always put on a few pairs of gloves while I clean the filter now.
i would need to see a photo but i have hundreds of little white bugs or see through bugs all in my rocks and sand. probably thousands. it's nature. they are fine. they serve as food for the fish. you should have them in there.
Thanks for sharing mate!
Just my 2 cents Lava rock is cheap and very efficient as a filter media. I'm not saying other media is bad but bio load lava rock is natural along with crushed coral works great. Keeps ph steady. Just my 2 cents I like natural down to earth stuff. As far as filter cleaning depends on bio load in tank urine is the main culprit in any closed system. I prefer two filters canister and an inline system. The older the system the more stable the aquarium will be. I always cultivated algae in my tanks.. But that's just my was said Frank lol
beware of crushed coral. it holds nitrates. i'll never use it. lots of videos online with people having sand made of crushed coral and it's a nitrate disaster.
Hey bud a little unrelated. I am confused how to dose alk. cal. magnesium. dosing pumps for each? ugh. or kalkwaser in auto top off seems like easiest system and hand dose the magnesium. How do you do it? Love your shows
+eric olsen Hey Eric, great questions. I think this will vary from tank to tank and person to person. I don't use dosing pumps or top off units. To me, it's just more to take care of and more to setup. I like as little as possible. It's not a big deal to me to dose as needed. I do a weekly 10 gallon water change in my 125. If I test and calcium is a little low, I will add the calcium crystals from BRS at an amount of 1/4 to the entire 10 gallon when I do a water change. I only do that during water changes if needed. For kalkwasser, I rarely use it but when I do, I will add it to my 1 gallon jug I keep under the tank for manual top-offs. I will go through one jug of RODI a week. I never dose magnesium but in the past I have used a tablespoon of magnesium crystals from the store....that you use to add to your bath water. For alkalinity I will dose 1 tablespoon of baking soda to the sump, as needed...rarely do I need to do this. Weekly water changes keep everything pretty much in check. glad you love the shows.
hi mate nice video.I have a fluval 306 cannister filter in my 35 gallon tank with live rock. been running about a week now. gonna add some fish and coral this weekend with some ATM colony.. wat is the best media to put in the filter I've read alot of people say they are no good and produce alot of nitrate...cheers
use a canister filter to filter, not for bacteria growth. i use 15 micron foam. works great! if you clean it weekly you won't have any issues. you need new foam each cleaning.
+Rotter Tube Reef OK cheers. I've also read that siporax is good for media...just not sure which basket i use for different media
Bobby Boy how did u get on with the canister filter mate? im thinking of using one...
would I still need a skimmer in my tank if I had a canister filter it's a 54 litre?
+Marc Harris Hey Marc, you would not need a skimmer in your tank if you had a canister filter. Just need to make sure you clean that canister out weekly.
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Thanks, great information.
+Joel Baptista welcome Joel!
Hi Steve,
It's been a little while since I last made a comment on your videos but I need to tell you that yourmsump is saving your butt on this one because fresh water no matter how clean will kill your saltwater bacteria because it can't survive fresh water.
I don't have a sump so I rely heavily on my canister filter which is a fluval 406. And I only clean it with tank water siphoned with a water change. Fresh water kills saltwater bacteria!
second of all is a tip!
those plastic bio balls are outdated!
heck out the Ceramic Bio balls from Marine Pure.
Why?
Because Marine Pure is the best!
on the outside of the ball you bacteria developed to handle your Ammonia and Nitrites, But,
on the inside they will developed a third strain of bacteria which will take care of your Nitrates effectively turning it into Nitrogen gas which escapes the tank through gas exchange meaning you don't have Nitrates anymore.
You don't have to sugar dose, vodka dose or any king of carbon dose or run Nitrate media in a reactor or canister filter. All you need is the marine pure media which has been designed with the perfect conditions for this third strain of bacteria to develope, survive and thrive.
you can over feed your tank by feeding heavily 10 times per day and your only concern will be phosphates and water clarity. Nitrates will always be undetectable!
The Downside is it takes 3 months for the bacteria to develop and handle your Nitrates.
The good news is that there is nothing you can do to stop it!
Hope this raises an eyebrow.. I know it will lol
+wombraider091 good to see you. thanks for the great tip! i'm running a canister filter because i can't afford another sump with skimmer on this quarantine tank. this is temporary while they are in quarantine and i do water changes every other day to keep ammonia and nitrates in check, while dosing cupramine. i may look at these for my main tank. where do you place them, just in a bad in the sump? i won't run any reactors...the less hardware the better for me. thanks again! i'll look at them!
+wombraider091 I just checked these out and am getting them! I will do a show on it and mention you. thanks a lot! awesome awesome stuff!
You're Welcome Buddy!
What do you do if the power gets cut off? How long before the tank livestock stars to suffer what signs to look for How to prevent that. Like a generator setup. Cheers I'm fwt but hope to get salty one day👍
+Ross Ellis a generator would be a great idea but most people don't have them. the main reason is because you need to keep the water flowing and breaking up for oxygen. when i clean this canister filter i work fast....about 10 minutes and they are totally fine. i also keep a pump running to break up the surface of the water so that helps.
Hey there Steve, I’m new to salt water tanks. And I was wondering if i am able to have a 20 gallon tank with some live rocks inside the tank and have only my canister filter running , would that be good enough for a saltwater tank or would I need a slimmer also ? If u can help me out and let me know please
hi, welcome to the hobby. yes, that will be good enough. you don't need a skimmer. most people don't with something that small. i had a 28 gallon nanocube as my first tank with no skimmer. just foam block in the plastic cage case in the back.
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1 yellow tang
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2 purple tang
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wow that’s a lot. how many gallons?
@@ROTTERtube 150
is the canister filter, your only filtration your using on your quarantine tank?. your not using any hang on the back skimmers or anything?. I want to set up my old 60g as a quarantine tank soon and wondering what's the best kind of filtration besides a sump.. btw (you said BALLS) haha haha hahaha that was funny
+Jorge Torres hahaha thanks Jorge. Yes that is my only filtration on the 75 gallon, the canister filter. I would recommend a hang on the back skimmer but I don't have one. I will get one eventually.
+ROTTER tube Reef awesome, I'll consider a HOB skimmer
hooking up the canister will the nitrate lvl go down? Boyd Enterprises Chemi-Pure Elite - Boyd Enterprises
if you don’t change the filter media the nitrates will go up. i did a write up on this at the website. www.saltwatertankcare.com
@@ROTTERtube every 6 months open the conatser and change the filter or clean the filter
Great Advice
+DK5TY thanks! i'll be setting up my larger marineland canister this weekend on the 2nd tank.
Instead of bioballs, you ever try marine pure balls? Each Marine pure ball is equal to 1350 bio balls.
i tried the marine pure blocks....2 of them actually. tried them for 9 months. nitrates never went down. i removed them when i saw the detritus collecting in the pores of the blocks.
Yeah I wasn’t impressed with them either. They seem to break down quickly to.
I wouldn't worry too much about rinsing with tap water. Same trace elements in their are the same as those in ocean water just in extremely trivial amounts and if you're still paranoid about it you can just rinse at the end with filtered water. I think the big culprit is chlorine because unless you have carbon it definitely has no way to be taken out.
Wow didn't know about the coral used it for years tx for telling me
I have well water from artesian well in Florida. Do you think that’s OK? Just rinse everything out
I wouldn't.
how often do you clean your
when i had the canister filter i was cleaning it once a week when i did a water change. i removed all media foam and put new media foam in. that is the only thing that was in the filter.
I used cured coral in all my tanks big elk horn etc never ran into problems Al
CURSED CORAL?! that's not good
Not cursed, cured now. lol
I just put them in th last two trays of my canister filter.
you can put them anywhere. even in the tank but for the best way to develop these little miracles of nature is to draw water through them and your canister filter is the best way 😉
+wombraider091 that's a great plan. i will look into them and probably put them somewhere in my display tank. I think I will be getting rid of the sump socks because I just can't stand them. In their place, I will be using a canister filter along with my sump and protein skimmer. best of both worlds. I would much rather clean a canister filter weekly than change out nasty socks every 3 days. I will then put these ceramic guy in the canister.
So when the filter sucks out from my fish tank, I gotta replace that salt water in the tank right because my canister is probably about a gallon I would say
Yeah that's about right, yes.
Hi.. do you know how to do a DIY skimmer? can you make a video of it? please.. thank you so much.
+kirsten gail Tenefrancia Hi Kirsten, I have never done that but I will look into it. thanks for stopping by.
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+ROTTER tube Reef that would be great! i love your videos by the way, its very helpful and educational. :)
+kirsten gail Tenefrancia thanks Kirsten!
Iv two canister filters small one for sponges the big one for media and I only clean them once a month you clean them in tank water anything else will kill the Beneficial bacteria in the filters
you don't need beneficial bacteria in the canisters...that's what sand and rock is for. it's all over the glass as well. to each their own. I only use canisters for mechanical filtering nothing more.
Can i use canister for chemical and mechanical filter?
yes you can. i only used it for mechanical and replaced the media every week. i still use it at times maybe once or twice a year for a week.
@@ROTTERtube Thanks for the answer. Another question if you don't mind, what kind of chemical filtration do you suggest for salt water tank? Someone told me to use purigen and bioball (biological filtration). I think live rock is enough for biological
live rock is enough. i like to keep it simple. you don't need that much....i had barely any rock and it was fine. remember that bacteria lives on the walls of your tank, your sump, everywhere. bio balls can hold detritus as well. i don't use them and never would. sand also holds a TON of bacteria.
Adding trace element is very important monthly I have gone months with no water changes. Not everyone has access to clean sea water so trace elements are very important there are certain ways to feed fish for finicky eaters etc. But I hate typing. Most important leave the system alone and don't over feed fish.
yeah Al. I never add trace elements since i do the weekly water change. i only dose a little calcium crystals since my coralline algae requires A LOT of calcium to stay around.
DONT RINSE THEM BALLS!
that's right! if you're going to use bioballs, don't rinse them. when i was using a canister filter, i just used it for filtration. i only had a lot of filter media in it and changed it out every week. i use the rock and sand for bio filtration. not to mention everything that is on the glass and the filters and the sump.
i am planning to add canister to my saltwater tank what is your recommendation on media
i would recommend nothing but polyfoam and that is it. use it as a filter, don't use it to house bacteria. throw away the foam pads once a week during cleaning. i loaded mine with pads and that is all.
Hi I followed in did tha same thing but use distilled baby water instead of Purified would that hurt I added prime also
i wouldn't use prime. you can, but i just rely on nature.
how do you at the beginning of video say in no way clean under faucet! THEN IN THE VIDEO RUNNING UNDER THE FAUCET?????
+6669bj ah, a mistake. you know why, it's because I only use the canister filter for my QT so I am not concerned about what little beneficial bacteria that's in the canister, will die. i do large water changes in the QT every other day, so I don't need to worry about bacteria growing since I rely on water changes for that.
Hi im new at saltwater aquariums i have a 46 g with canister filter can anyone tell me the best way to set up the canister what media and how can i set it up plz and thank you
hi Byron and welcome to the hobby. this video should show you everything you need to know. when i used a canister filter, i would use it ONLY FOR FILTERING! i don't put rubble or rock or anything in it. the only thing i would put in a canister filter is filter media. i would replace the filter media weekly. you will be able to go longer, maybe 2 weeks, if you have small fish that go to the bathroom less.
My fish shop told me never to clean it for good bactira I never listen I do it once a week
i'm glad you didn't listen. a canister filter should be used for filtering not bacteria....that's what your rocks and sand are for. not to mention all the bacteria on the glass of your tank and all surfaces.
@@ROTTERtube I have a bare bottom tank is why she said it she wouldn't even sell me plants because I have a bare bottom tank said they wont grow
I'm confused. wait, when you say plants, are you talking about coral? coral will be fine with no sand.
If I clean my canister every week, will it still be a “nitrate factory”
Hi James, it will not. you will be fine.
Rotter Tube Reef thank you I’ve been getting mixed answered but I trust yes most
thanks. people bash canister filters but they work great. just use them as a filter, clean weekly with new media and you'll be fine. can't be a nitrate factory if you clean it!
Rotter Tube Reef u got that right!!
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