This Latosa Escrima master is next level!!! - A must watch
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And again a big thank you to Ilan for coming out and having a great time with me. Someone who is so skilled and capable like you but still curious to explore new things, is someone who is a true and legit example what a real martial art spirit is. I enjoyed every minute. God bless you!
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This is amazing, I am mind-blown. 🙌🙌🙌
Love this one guys. I'm a Hugh fan of inside fighting and by just breaking down the " box" method is so valuable. And the live blade play was awesome.
@@alexlonggland5771 Thank you! Much appreciated.
His "box" strategy makes so much sense to me.
It's a good philosophy for any striking system and something i follow as well.
RIP GM Latosa. Fortunate I was able to train with him for several years
Seems like he was fantastic
You should train with him as much as you can. He’s a level changer. His knowledge is a upgrade.
Yes he’s awesome and a legit good guy
@@inside_fighting Thank you very much!
@@inside_fighting Thank you very much! Likewise!
Latosa Escrima was my primary FMA and the one I stuck with for it's practicality.
I dabbled in PTK but disliked the impracticality and false history.
Went back to Latosa Escrima and still practice it.
R.I.P. GM Renea Latosa.
I trained and tested both Wing Tsun KunFa & Latosa Escrima under sifu Keith Fain & sifu Emin Boztepe in the 90s.
Seems to be the most direct style I’ve seen which is fantastic
PTK i has false history? Whaaaa. I though that style is badass. But I seen Latosa in tourments doing demo, Those guys are serious
@@hotpopcorncake PTK doesn't have a false history... There are a few discrepancies about some details around some history in the mid-80s, but the overall history can be corroborated. PTK in general is considered one of the most effective FMA styles. PTK gets a bad rap because of a few bad instructors. I've trained in five different FMA styles, and I'm ranked in two. Out of all of the systems, PTK is the only one that started people full contact sparring almost immediately.
@@kaliguy2188 Oh ok i see
I am glad that I was able to attend Rene's last seminars in southern Germany. I am grateful that I was able to learn from him. His principles are the basis for everything I train. The unarmed implementation is also great. R.I.P Rene
Another fine video, bro. Regarding the "Baseball Punch", the functional purpose of the :hanging elbow" is to protect the floating ribs. Advanced silat players used to train with knives tucked under their armpits (edge up, of course) to hold that position. What you call "baseball'', they call "pukul", or hammer. It makes more sense if you imagine carrying a shield. Cheers. 🙏🏼
Great breakdown of it. Makes a lot of sense. Also a very cool way to train 😅
My shotokan Sensei was teaching this concept in 82 , I realize how rare it was now to have a Sensei willing to explore outside the box in those days . He had us borrow two saucers out of our mom's china . It was to teach us the value if protecting your armpits as though it was your very ares .
As a long time sword practitioner, I can endorse most of the swords movements. The difference in the movement styles where the attack and defense movements are either separate or combined are referred to as "tempo" if you defend, then attack it is duo tempo(two beats in the exchange). If you incorporate an attack into your defensive maneuver, or a defense into your offensive maneuver, it is mono tempo. There's a time and place for each.
Sifu Milos is such an amazing font of knowledge. Ever since his first introduction here on Ilan's channel, I've subscribed to his channels and have been checking out his stuff. Thanks for the collab and bringing his wisdom to so many people!
Ive been practicing with a 21 inch heavy baton and my main problem is that I can't bring it back fast enough lika my 16 inch. Thank you for solving my problem. Now I know how to keep it in front. Kudos to both of you. Love your channel.
Im gonna have to buy a heavy baton!
It is always refreshing to being a "white belt" again. It's a feeling that never gets old, and you are excited...😊
Just the boys hanging out and swinging swords!
The masters principles certainly make sense and are practically proven excellent thank you
This is an amazing video! Thank you again coach. And to Sifu Miloš I took one of his classes recently and felt the same effect holding the pad and his wing Chun and lotosa fighting are so similar and I wasn't a believer til I felt it first hand! Amazing!
So cool you made it out to train with him
@@inside_fighting amazing!!! He demonstrated the same concepts he did in this video and just Messi g around with him was difficult and gave me that “deer in the headlight “ moment of shock and his I noticed similarly that his way of stick fighting and WC are quite similar and translates empty hand.
Bro! Thank you so much for making the video i asked for!!! This is probably the best video on UA-cam that explains this style so well!
Many thanks again for making this video!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
My pleasure 🙏🏼
I love this master's display of controlled but also powerful strikes. Yes having the controlled half-strikes that stay there has its benefits which is why it's practiced in Balintawak ;)
The part at the end, where Sifu was talking about how Latosa Escrima hits versus other styles was initially very confusing for me when GM Latosa showed it at a seminar. Then I realized you were holding your hands exactly the way you would with a blade and it made a lot more sense.
I quite enjoyed seeing how they showed fighting styles which just don't comply with how people generally would fight. That being something like a boxer would. That became prevalent at 16:30 when Ilon showed an approach. That in which really complements his R.A.I.D. self-defence system.
This makes so much sense, I want to learn more
He’s got a lot of knowledge to impart
Basically you always trying to keep the tip between you and opponent while cutting.
Lots of great points
Thank you Sifu!
Good to recall all the things, you told
me for years.
That guy is a beast, would be interesting to train with. One of my instructors was big on doing drills with live blades too.
"Ok, that was the easy part...now go do it" GM Rene Latosa
The channel just keeps getting better, you are a true warrior, a great student, a great teacher, and a big heart.
The only thing not to like is your singing!...truly awful! 😁
😂😂😂 i have the voice of an angel 🤔
I'm going to say some things i hope it doesn't come of as a critique or bashing the techniques demonstrated here (English is not my first language). We have most of these things already in HEMA. Stepping of the line of the opponent and getting behind your cut. Also the cut is angled in a way so to protect the "box". We generate forcee from the whole body and the wrists( we uave more loose grip and tightening it when we hit). Also sometimes you want to get your point outof the way because you want to do another technique. And the cut must be thrown with the tip of the sword leading so it's faster . And most of the time you want to move so you have the best balance you can have
Very useful video. I'll watch it again couse it has great stuff! 👍
I'd like to add that "The box" have been applied to a Wing Tsun (which also trains Latosa) variant called Wingfight ( previosly known as Wing Revolution). In plain words is a Latosa stance that uses the box to enter close range and from there applys mostly Wingchun and Eskrima strikes while keeps the hands as a guard towards the opponent and reacts with Wing Chun sensibility when needed.
It was created by sifu Victor Guitierrez. I'm sure sifu Milos knows about it.
It'd be nice if you could analyze it in one of your future videos.
Thanks!
Thanks so much. He has lots more videos he wants to share and his own channel is growing too.
@@inside_fighting Cool! Already subscribed !
I like from 13:37 that concept of same side and opposite side defending the box against a hook.
Your observation at 17:37 reminds me a lot of some stuff that my father and I wondered about after a training session. This might be one of my favorite videos you've posted!
Appreciate that! I’m gonna be training more with master Milos
as to the blade..keeping the point in front of you or aiming it at your opponent is a concept that is taught in HEMA (going back to the 1500's at a minimum) i also use that same concept in open hands by keeping my lead hand always aimed at my opponents nose...as to the short punches..coming from a muay thai perspective i would rather throw an elbow than a hook because you're in the same range and the elbow hits harder and is safer.
Yea it’s an underrated concept for empty hand
Thanks for sharing. Such an obvious concept regarding weapon handling but it hasn’t occurred to me prior.
Great episode. So much insight here.
Appreciate that very much 🙏🏼
Learned this in Northern Pangasinan Arnis stick is always centered movements small and powerful
We have a similar concept in Kyo-Jitsu Ryu. We call it the principle of fire. If you watch a forest fire, the principle is evident. Fire goes for the fuel and stays to consume it and never retracts. It then goes after more fuel, stays to consume and then moves forward for more fuel. Wash, rinse, repeat. It's the same s the "punch into the box" idea. It works.
Question from a HEMA swordsman: why does the instructor hold the longsword with his hands so close together on the hilt? I learned in my fencing school to position the bottom hand on the pommel or at least half on the pommel for more leverage -- this enables the push/pull with front hand and back hand for better leverage and maneuverability of a large blade like the two-hander.
Everything else looks great!
Asian martial arts use different hand positions on the weapon to achieve different purposes. In kali/escrima, doing higher on the stick creates a longer punyo (pommel/butt) which is used both offensively and defensively. Alonger punyo is great for disarms, for example. If you want a better visual of this specific concept, look at karambit knife work. It's all punyo, turned into a blade. You can use it for locks, controlling the arm/body, and other manipulation techniques, as well as cutting and stabbing.
Bujinkan, bujutsu, and other Japanese sword arts also use this concept. Bujinkan actually uses the entire hilt of the sword as an offensive and defensive tool, to the point that the official sword adopted by the style isn't an actual katana, but rather a type of kokatana, with a much smaller blade, and a exaggeratedly long hilt. Think the difference between something like a regular M4A1 carbine and... a SBR like a MK18 or smaller (that'll make a lot more sense if you're a gun guy). Kokatana are meant for close quarters work in confinement as opposed to ranged work in an open field.
Very good stuff!
Appreciate that!!
Great video. Eskrima is a formidable martial art if taught right.
Absolutely. It’s a great style
Thank you great video on the punching systema calls that leaving one behind, looks exactly like that.
That’s a cool way to put it
Kevin Secours teaches systema like this. My striking became so much more powerful after attending a few seminars with him and really working on the principles I learned there.
Great content 👌
Thank you :) and thanks for commenting
I like a lot of what I see from Master Milos, but his idea of how a two handed longsword is used is way off the mark. The HEMA community in the past 20 years has evolved quite a lot and done enough research to have a good understanding of how European longswords were used based on extant manuals from the 14th-17th centuries. I would recommend him to do more research regarding known longsword traditions such as Liechtenauer, Fiore, or even the Bolognese systems. I believe there are various established HEMA clubs in Florida as well.
He’s not coming at it from a European approach but from a Filipino one (despite being European 😅) and of course the long sword being a European weapon. He seems to use it more as a weighted long training tool to develop skills for shorter swords
Yeah, I do HEMA too. His observations are a decent start but point offline positions are useful too. It all depends on context. Also, handshake grips are a better starting point for that type of weapon.
I really like his footwork though.
Great Video!
Solid work!
Very good explanation and a great system! Thanks for the video!
Very cool 😎 you guys are great together you should make another video were you share your favorite counter attacks and reversals that's the highlight level of training in my opinion and UA-cam lacks in that department
We most definitely will. He's fantastic. I have a messed up knee at the moment but as soon as I get my new brace i'll be moving around more with him.
I practice Traditional Chinese Medicine. Diet, Herbs, Qigong, Taiji. I used to practice Silat and Escrima and still enjoy "playing" sticks, except now I go with Taiji Style Flow.
Use of force
The Chi that course through the system
Called the body
I lock a topic then stop the hit and top written this spit in it if need be
Hi! My name is Tree
I Tai Chi
I clock a lead
As saw as raw who bleed who draw Gun to shoot and pollute stream
I like this blow off steam with deadly strikes fists
In a dream
This crisp as list back Medicinal Herbs and Energy Work
I send a burst through as I first one who knew
The Medicine is for the Veteran who wants to chill their Chi
Some turn ill and seed for the toe up
Stop the flow up
You get old sick and worn out without a doubt I grown up
With violence
I just stare in silence when people practice hard style with the blade
I made this Gray turn display I shoulder
All folder holds the charts of Medicinal Formula
I bold to score through this War a system of Healing
All the Chi link from being to being
From tree to tree from seed to seed
All life force flow through course taken by the way then
I’m on Vacation
Wake me up at the train station with the Gold Plate Medallion
I even know Shaolin arts
Sifu Miloś und seine Spielzeuge, hehe 🤩🤩🤩
Dangerous beauty
Bro.. that intro song is next level awesome
I practice Doce Pares and HEMA and find longsword really hard to deal with. If you get a sword designed for use with great weight distribution a longsword fighter keeps their point on line. A good challenge would be to find someone with gear designed for use
Wow, what a video!!! Thank you🔥🔥🔥
Appreciate it! Thank you for watching.
Man you have the greatest martial arts channel in the world I love your contents thank you
To my mind breaking out a medieval hand and half sword is plain useless whereas a parang or golok makes far more sense in this context of eskrima/kali. Appreciate the sentiment of facing forward of feet and motion of stick work, thanks. 👍
This is awesome, thanks a lot. Love to see that my Kali teacher is on the same page. I was suspecting that things are as here explained (thanks again!!!!!), including the relatively "open, floating" position of the elbows, not as close / tight to the ribs (ie, no as vertical) as some wing chun proponents teach. Any specific comment on the raised elbow position?
He flares his lats which generates more force but it causes the elbows to flare a bit. I know some Thai guys who do this too. Keeps the elbows pointed at the incoming kicks
@@inside_fighting The lats makes your arms make stronger frame, same as when bench pressing.
6:50 This guy would definitely not be Maidenless in the Lands Between
The power generation he shows at the beginning...i just come to use it in my sword training years ago by instinct...my goal was to be faster without moving a lot more, because we always trained in group and I generally was always against 3 4 opponents
it's cool to see people come to the same conclusions.
@@inside_fighting even the thing about the forearms, my friends didn't catch the ideia when I tried to explain to them. Strong back, forearms and calf's, with strong stable core and footwork are the most optimal build in my view. Now that I'm older I can formulate better the thoughts I had, but before my mind was just abstract thinking working for applications hehe
Great stuff! If you get a chance, theres a kung fu style called Fanziquan that has a form designed to be executed with shackled hands. Might be a cool idea
Sounds very interesting. I’ll check it out!
It's one of the styles that Jet Li used of The One. Never saw it spelled that way though.
When I see that flag next to USA one...I just know there is going to be some bad ass people in front of her
This is how I learned Katana fighting
I'm guessing that's not a very well made longsword just by the fact that it seems to be quite tip heavy which means it probably does not have proper distal taper; most longswords are balanced about 3 or 4 in from the guard and weigh around 2-3.5 lbs.
Great video! Can we see more of the bladework with forward and backward motion?
Did everyone get that when Rene Latosa (Milos' teacher) was 62 he could hit harder than Milos?
Milos hits very hard so its pretty nuts.
GM Latosa was a beast. When he hit your stick you felt it all the way to your toes.
There can only be one!
So much fun.
You should get a D Guard Bowie. A seriously underrated combat weapon.
serbia mentioned rahhhh🦅🦅🦅
"Live blades" call made a sensible caution to be observed, you guys.
a very fine video, but if you would allow me to give you a single pointer on your swordwork:
your left hand grips the sword to high. You should grip on the pommel to maximise your leverage.
It is really fun to see escrima-informed swordhandling elsewhise.
I see similar concepts in Keysi Fighting Method I learned with the box, using the Pensador frame to fight out of.
Is there a website for this Guro?
Latosa was first Uk FMA system taught openly and was later blended with wing Chun. Jay Dobrin of B.I.F.F. Was one of GM Rene first Uk students.
Hi, His website channels are linked in the description.
Please wear face protection next time. I know you’re obviously being very careful and controlled with those live blades but there’s always a risk of something breaking and flying off
Good advice 😅 I’m nervous anytime i use live blades
@@inside_fighting you seen that infomercial with the guys trying to sell cheap fake katanas? The guy starts hitting it on the table to show how “tough” it is and the tip breaks off and stabs him in the arm on live TV. “It got me O’Dell, it got me!”
Since you're into Escrima there is an obscure Caribbean martial art called "Kalinda" that you might find interesting. I won't spoil it, but you might find something oddly familiar... 😁
Oh man! Excited to check it out
@@inside_fighting Look up a channel called "Red Drum Drumming" They just had a competition earlier this year. I don't know much about it myself but it will definitely catch your attention.
There is also Brazil's Maculele but I think that's more known.
@@inside_fighting Let me know what you think!
Hey man. Love the channel. Found you from Izzo and i enjoy what you do. I was wondering if you could interview someone from the Wong Shun Long lineage. Like Gary Lam or Philip Bayer, or Philip Ng. Not to open the can of political conflict within the wing chun world. Just as a focus of difference when a style is tested in reality by being pressure tested directly by the master teaching it. Of all the students of master Ip, there was only one who was in the streets fighting in underground matches. Testing the wing chun in live matches every week. There was only one student who was given the name of "king of talking hands". And only one student who come back to class asking, ''hey master Ip, I tried this in a fight and it didn't work, can u tell me why and help me make it work?''
As a person who has touched hands with multiple trainers and teachers, when introduced to a Wong Shun Long lineage of ving tsun specifically Do you notice a difference? I enjoyed your wing Chun videos but any time I show then to my teacher he shows it to the class and we pick apart all the extra and unnecessary movements throughout.. this guy, particularly upset my teacher and we spent 2 classes covering why this master knows the words but cant walk the walk..
I'm just curious on your perspective and take as someone who sees many styles and touches many different pressures, do you see or feel a difference when it's a wong shun long lineage or not?
Just a clarifier of titles, Wong shun changed his teaching to Ving Tsun to differentiate itself from standard wing chun not for any methodology difference. Though because of encroaching Europeanism called the bathroom a ''water closet'', and they often also abbreviated many words. So the English called wing chun the water closet style.. So he changed it to Ving tsun to not have it associated with a bathroom. Any lineage of wing Chun spelt as ving tsun is exclusively a Wong shun long lineage.
Thanks for all the great content. And a fun channel to watch.
Yeah, tapping the nearest weapon to create an opening. Kajukembo guys were doing that in the very early 1970s. So amazing some of you are finally catching up.
Yes, chi sau is useless if he deals with real intent in strikes, and he would not prefer chain punches but his side bent arm "box" punches. 12:50
His boxing strategy is using a speed bag combo to attack his adversary bareknuckle.
Watching Little Rock Arkansas
That's not actually a Spartan sword (lakonia or xyphos) it's a fantasy Spartan seord baised on the comic & movie "300".
You should train with GM Nene (NNG Balintawak) ✨
South Florida where?
In Plantation
www.my-vlma.com
Thanks 👊🏻
That sword looks like a wall hanger I might be wrong but what brand is it?
Is there anywhere in Philadelphia you can recommend to start training?
Ilan,a honest question.
What do you think is the next step in kickboxing?
What do you think is going to change the world view in striking martial sports?
Many say Lethwei,but i am not fully convinced.
I love small glove Muay Thai that they do in one fc but even that doesn’t seem to be growing fast
@@inside_fighting
BKFC overlap with Letwhei a little ,but seems another good choice. It seems a focus on more upright,hands heavy approach. I guess grappling is more popular nowadays.
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5:00
Prepare for some roasting , shads gonna come, and hes gonna see and hes gonna tell u ur swordfghting is ridiculous... stabby stabby, thats a longswords main idea, especially when u have that range advantage
Who is the old guy in the picture? :)
Ip Man
Thank you
I like some of his principles. However, as a HEMA student, i have to say respectfully, that he has a very limited understanding of sword use. The big sword is more akin to a longsword, not a two hander. Two handed swords are closer to 6ft and huge. You don't use a two handed sword the way he suggested. It's used more like a whirlwind. Longswords are used like a lever with veey precise strikes and optimized coverage that helps the cross guard do it's job, blocking, catching and manipulating your opponent's blade or limbs. Basically, what this guy's method is more like is the famous short distance generation of force Bruce Lee demonstrated or makiwara principles. In fencing with swords, the box he speaks of is the hardest part to guard because it cannot move very fast to avoid attacks. Limbs and head can. This is why that, although i will snipe hand etc, I'm always looking to hit that "box".
You are making me uncomfortable doing demo with the dull blade and sword. I've cut myself before with dull knife and sword before messing around hahaha
This one is not dull it’s sharpened
@@inside_fighting Oh shit hahaha
I know, it's an unsolicited advice, but, just in case. You should pay more attention to your DIET, our dear friend
Real long swords aren't this unweildy
What you are holding is a fake long sword or like a wall hanger from budk
his sword grip looks terrible
Cool, but this basic Kali/Escrima.
And again a big thank you to Ilan for coming out and having a great time with me. Someone who is so skilled and capable like you but still curious to explore new things, is someone who is a true and legit example what a real martial art spirit is. I enjoyed every minute. God bless you!