Yeah, but combat patrols seem kind of intro points for collecting minis, and then this way of buying them kind of sucks. I mean, if two people want to get into the hobby and friend 1 wants to get space marines then he's fine, but he's gonna have to wait months until friend 2 gets his combat patrol, especially if that person wants one of the later factions. So it's very likely that one person is just gonna sit on a fully built army before his friend even gets a single model. This only really works if you have several friends that already have models, and play one of these factions, and haven't already bought the combat patrols.
I know it's not common but for those thinking about it- having sample sizes of multiple factions really rejuvenates the game for you- being able to play x or y or z whenever you want. If you can, get it
I've thought about doing this for that reason, with the caveat being that some of my local communities tend to be down on people who don't have a full 2000-point list (more so my main Sigmar community than its 40k counterpart, who seem more forgiving about this), so I'm taking that into consideration as well.
@@dracosummoner yeah 2000 is always a good point to aim for but waiting until you got all units from the army you want might take all 80 weeks. Other option is to sell all extra units of armies you don't want.
From a hobbying perspective, getting a slow trickle of new minis to try and complete before the next delivery sounds entertaining. BUT when I thought about the fact you can get 2 complete 2000point armies for the price of the magazine run, I kind of decided it's not a great idea. Choose your 2 favorite factions and spend £40 a month, and you'll end up much happier by the end of 80 weeks.
Yeah I agree 100% You get a lot of plastic in this collection but for most part it is going to be things you didn't really want in the first place. Getting two full armies that are playable and more or less complete is much more worthwhile and much more enjoyable.
For someone collecting and playing for 30yrs, this is just gonna be fun to have multiple factions to play here and there for fun. Looking forward to the U.S release! =)
Imperium shipping was like $7 per monthly set in the US. And they charge you $10 per binder that comes out every several months that you can't request to skip.
@DataAllister you just email customer service and ask them to remove the binder from your order once you get the "free" one, it's completely within your rights to do so, it's an optional purchase they just automatically sign you up to unless you opt out You also have time to remove any additional costs they add, as you'll receive a letter in the previous month detailing it, like in the previous run there was a pair of books and an art book I know about both of these because I did it
@nukem8128 that is a GREAT point. I hope people don't forget about taxes and potential other fees. I live in CAN and was being charged +$67 per month for Imperium and a $6.95 shipping charge all of which were in USD (so at the mercy of exchange rates and provincial/federal taxes). So what started out as a few bucks an issue for the premium subscription quickly went up to approx $115 CAD a month which is fine if you've planned for it. I can only imagine what the Aussies and Kiwi's are subjected to as they seem to have it worst of all.
People who subcribed to Warhammer 40.000: Conquest/Imperium: UK and USA: We have to pay the delivery costs!😭😭😭 Germany: You guys having to pay for delivery?🧐 Jokes aside, the germans really didn't paid for the delivery for those Magazines, because in the Description stands that delivery is free to Germany. Only Austrian, Swiss and Luxembourg had just to pay 0,50 €, according to the upcoming Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Stormbringer, which starts on the 10th of January 2024. Also i know you guys got your delivery for 4 Issues. In Germany (as i experienced) we started with 3 Issues in the first Delivery, 4 in the second and for the rest of the run with 6 Issues (though we must wait 6 weeks for it). Except for the last one, which contain 7 Issues for Conquest and 5 for Imperium, due to the extended run from 80 to 90 Issues. So you have my condolences!
I think if you looked at it differently, if you spent £40 - 50 a month, at 3rd party retailers, on specific models you want for a faction or two factions, whilst looking at like xmas boxes or starter kits as well, then over 18 months you'd have two very nice armies of stuff you want. I kind of feel by going for NINE factions this will put a lot of people off.
@@adambartholomew6575 Those are two good factions, your playgroup should give them a shot. I can’t vouch much for Eldar since I don’t play it, but I love CSM, especially how you can play it any way you like, play Iron Warriors and focus on the Machines, Word Bearers if you want to mix up with Demons, Night Lords and Alpha Legion for each of their specific funny brand of opponent mind fuckery, or Black Legion if you wanna be the Ultramarines of Chaos.
I did almost a full run of imperium and included the binders and premium sets. I think it was a pretty decent deal. Anything you dont want or need you can resell. I liked the factions bettwr for Imperium. But this doesnt look bad either.
If you pick the faction you like and spend the same amount of money that you would on the magazine sub you will have a much better army and models you actually want.
Yes, but if you want a variety of small armies or have a group of friends who want different armies then this would be great to boost your armies. This is for new players to get them into the game casually not people who are going to buy specific units from the start.
Im working towards doing commissions at some point. I often feel i dont have enough experience (just space marines, gk and csm in my current collection). Im really interested in this series because of the additional painting experience ill gain
As a full time commission painter I would advise to just go for the commissions. Working with clients (with strange requests) is quite a different experience then practicing for yourself. Also, selling every model you paint is not for everyone, it ruins the "hobby" feel quite bit. Quite a few people give commissions a try and then release they actually don't want their hobby to become a job. That's all valuable experience that this kind of project won't give you, in addition to this costing money and not making you any!
Seems like it might be good to split a subscription with friends if you know ppl who play a good mix of these factions. Let's see if Australia actually gets the option of the premium packages this time. We missed out on it for Imperium Magazine :/
Surely the fact that many of these combat patrols are likely to be changed by GW over the course of this magazine is something to consider. Orks codex are released in spring and if following GW current trend you may be getting an old combat patrol (which tbf could be better given how they have updated the admech and necrons). Something to consider regardless!
That said if you look in the new White Dwarf they just added the old Vanguard Marines set as an additional Combat Patrol - so the old combat patrol minus the Impulsor. If that's indicative of their direction going forward chances are they'll be adding more stuff to combat patrol mode rather than removing or replacing things. Although the actual combat patrol kits themselves might get replaced over time.
I think the main thing im looking forward to is have a lot more to kit bash with The additions to my armies will be great over doubling my newest but to have more grey to smash together will be fun
Yeah. It's a much better idea to just pick a couple combat patrols you're interested in, get them from a discount retailer, and pay like 250 dollars instead of 1200. I have no idea who this is marketed to. Beginners won't want to dive THIS deep into the hobby to begin with. Veterans won't want the paints/brushes, or the models that don't go with their current army. If you want to collect a NEW army there's no reason why you'd want to start 7 at once.
Yeh kind of agree, can't ever seeing myself wanting all these factions, like there are a few other factions I might want to start at some point as an addition to my main army but what do I do with all the rest? Maybe sell them online I suppose but no guarantee you'll get good value. I think for people who wanted to start a 2nd or 3rd army, like you say much better to pick up a combat patrol or xmas box or whatever for that faction from a 3rd party retailer, add a couple of other kits on top and you can probably get a 1k army on the table for £150 or something. Plus I'd imagine a lot of people are like me, where their main army would get a lot of duplicate kits, I am pretty sure I have all if not most of those SM models.
If I was in one of the countries that offer this I'd pick it up right away. I love dipping my toes in almost all factions in the game, if nothing else, just for the painting aspect.
New people and resellers? If you ever saw one of those magazines as a kid where it was like "buy this magazine and you can build this awesome RC car! issue 1 only £2.99!" Then it turns out the regular price is £14.99 and you need to buy 50 issues to get all the bits. It makes the deal seem considerably worse.
I feel like I'm gonna try and pick up individual issues and focus on the character units to build up my collection. The Brutalis Dread is tempting but I'd doubt the first 20 issues would give me everything I'd want and need.
Its a good idea but is almost impossible in practice. Most physical stores will stop selling the range after a while because reasons. Online stores are sold out day one because of scalpers.
Having a ton of half-armies and major variety is exactly what I want out of the hobby. The ability to hand a friend an entire combat patrol and let people learn to play a new faction, or even the entire game is like being able to share joy with someone.
I also 100% guarantee the good kits will sell out fast. You can still find Imperium and even Conquest magazines with the paints in them. No one wanted those.
Something to take into account is the combat patrol mod : small armies with custom rules to balance them. GW might be trying to push more people toward it. The extra miniature are here to tempt us toward 1000 points armies, because patrol+1/2 model isn't really playable on its own. From my personnal point of view, what I prefer is dipping into factions lore while painting them, more than having a horde of a less limited number of factions, so I might go for it.
I played Patrouille for several months. The rules are unbalanced and it got boring in the end ! And you want to play in 1000 points and more. But the new V10 patrols are average or bad for a good base :(
You missed that if you read the terms and conditions, every now and then (every 15 issues or so) they also send you extra Binders and divider pages and charge you £10.99 for that on top so reduces the savings even further
@@BeardHammerGaming in the terms and conditions. They don't show the 3 extra sets that you get sent and automatically charged for unless you look at the T&Cs
@@BeardHammerGaming "As a subscriber, you will automatically receive binders with Issues 23, 43 and 63 at a cost of £10.99 each. If you subscribe from Issues 05, 06 or 07, you will also receive a binder with Issue 10."
I think it's a good deal compared to buying all these Combat Patrols individually but then it would have to be. If we just look at price overall not comparing GW products with GW products then I would say no, nothing they do is a 'Good' deal!
How can you not mention shipping costs?! Its a gigantic part of the overall cost, in the US, shipping was over 60% of the total cost added on top. By your math, it would be significantly CHEAPER to buy from ebay once you take predatory shipping fees into account. Cmon auspex, you are usually better about being honest with the numbers.
probably because Auspex is UK based where the shipping is free, and all the prices in the video are in GBP, and the shipping cost to US wasnt heavily publicised so not so easy for him to get hold of like other region prices in some other videos
This idea 💡 is absolutely perfect for me. Decided to retire early in January at 55, although I have many things to do in my hopefully 🤞 long retirement I have always wanted to get into GW but held back due to work constraints and the inevitable wrath from my wife towards my dust ridden pile of shame 😡 collection. I have just invested in the starter set and paints so although I understand I wouldn’t need the SM and Tyranids kits from these I will be subscribing to the full package due to getting all the painting instructions, rules etc plus the extra goodies so I can spend some time using my current purchase to practise on and get some experience and then when all the CP have arrived I can then progress on armies I want to build up e.g. Orks (after all who doesn’t love 🥰 an Ork) 😃 As I say perfect for me but I can see that probably a large percentage of collectors it probably has limited appeal but as the saying goes you can’t please all of the people all of the time. Roll on Q4 2024 👍🏻
TBH doubling up on most of the Space marine and Tyranid kits from the starter set wouldnt be a huge problem anyway. The characters you likely wont need multiples of but you can always ebay those or have a stab at converting them
I'm just getting back into the hobby and really am just looking for a huge variety of things to paint and mess around with. This seems like a pretty good deal to me XD
It is for sure, though a the same time don't get overloaded. I have a pile of plastic to paint and I've stopped myself from buying new stuff until I've finished my current.
@Myder_Dragon I remember the pile of doom from when I was a teen collecting XD. Well, if I get this subscription, I will have enough models to paint for a couple years likely, unless I go through a painting binge one vacation. I have an air brush now, and a better work flow for tackling painting projects, so hopefully I won't get completely overwhelmed!
I did a video on Stormbringer. In there, I detail how the ORDER things are done in is a huge influence on it. Are the Patrols done in order? Are they broken into pieces? Do they stack a ton of the best goodies in the first few issues? Stormbringer's opening issues are pretty stacked, with a Krondys at just box 5 waiting for those who buy Premium. By issue 18, you have the entirely of the Mid-range Sigmar starter, the Generals from the small Starter, a heavy unit for each army, a pair of Underworlds Warbands, rare Underworlds terrain, 10 paints, the brushes, nippers, and glue to assemble it all...and Krondys. For about $250? I mean, then you can go ahead and bail, you've made out like a bandit.
Defiently Tyranids and Astra caught my eyes, might pick up individual issues to get the Von Ryan's, Terms, and Barbs to help fill in my leviathan box tyranids a bit more, while Astra I could get the sentinel and the cadians, maybe even multiples if it's possible
The lists are actually pretty solid for 1k if you get the premium sub edition. Orks only need mozrog or maybe a battle wagon and meganobs to hit 1k. The space marines need a bit more but the vanguard detachment letting you make either a terminator character or the bike Chaplin a lone operative is big for flexibility. It’ll either be a fast bike or a deep striker. Getting more terminators is the easiest pick but outriders could work (especially if you have a 9th edition elite half lying around or at your locals). The csm and world eaters halfs work fabulous together. You can make a 1k list out of either box with the three shared models. GSC with the guard as brood brothers has so many options to hit 1k it’s not even funny. Aeldari and guard need the most help but are pretty easy to get to 750 with one more cheep kit each. League’s pretty desperate for some vehicles and maybe grimnyr. Tyranids is easy just get genestealers to run with the brood lord from the GSC half.
£787 v £1215 is a definite good discount, but it really does depend entirely on wanting everything in the set, in the order they come in the magazine, over the timespan of the sub. Splitting with someone else would decrease that likelihood of "waste", for sure, but it means that you're not "getting something every week" which is part of the attraction of this kind of thing. But too scattergun for me, and not enough value in terms of what i want - there's a lot in there i'd just never buy and i don't have the patience for reselling. I'll just stick to buying the things i actually want.
The raw discount is impressive, but I probably have no use for over half of them - either because I already own one (or more) or because I have no interest in that army. This would be a great deal if you & some friends could divvy up the minis & split the costs.
One thing I will warn people about as someone who subscribed to the first run of this 40k magazine. There is other things that they don't tell about until the month before, which they will charge you for, on a sort of 'opt out' method of business. These can be upwards of £15 pounds added on top of your order. Examples of things I got. A silver templars painting box (which was actually really cool. Ring binder guide, 5 intercessors. 1 lieutenant who you couldn't buy at the time. And about 10 paints) Silver templars novel Silver templars codex So just bare this in mind as the cost could end up being upwards of an extra £100+ on your subscription by the end.
As an adult with a fairly limited amount of free time I don't think these subscriptions are worth it, but with the time to delve into reading each magazine and keep up to date with painting the models you get I think this would be fantastic. I got the Conquest subscription when it came out in Australia and it was way too much each month so it just ended up in a box that I pulled out individual ones occasionally and mostly ignored the magazines. From what I read of the magazines they would have been the kind of thing that would definitely add to the experience for someone new who has the time, and would add to the value. They had a gentle introduction to the game, a decent amount of lore, and (fairly basic but easy for a beginner to follow) painting instructions. My experience with their chat support was frustrating, but their phone support was pretty great. So if you go for this and need to contact support (which wouldn't be unexpected for them) I'd recommend you go by phone if possible.
I feel like the video kind of neglects the value for painters, hyper focussing on a single faction for an extended period of time really limits your ability to paint well. Someone who paints nothing but space marines might be great at flat armour, but fall apart painting flesh. Having an array of random discounted kits turn up at your door each month makes for absolutely fantastic practice. Not to mention citadel paints and tools, while overpriced normally, are still good quality and worth using, random paints may push you to work in colours you normally don't bother with too. Personally, I think the value here is insane for anyone who wants to broaden their ability to paint well.
If you’re getting all the the combat patrols and extras over a year and a half plus some juicy lore in the magazine it might definitely be a fun thing to look forward to in the mail
There's 90 issues at E17.50 for premium is 1575 /9 factions = 175 euro for a combat patrol and a bonus unit for 8 of the factions (CSM and WE share a demon prince) + brushes and paints
I’m gonna be getting this for two reasons, the second being more so why overall. 1. Many miniatures I want / would love to add to my collection as a newer player or use them for bits / onsell what I don’t need. 2. For my friends, I don’t think a lot of people put this together but if you have many warhammer friends it’s pretty nice being able to help expand their armies, or getting them some units for cheaper than normal. The marines can go to a friend, the votann and orks to another, the astra militatrum to another. Tyranids to myself. The others can be used in between for various stuff/getting new friends into the hobby who might wanna try it.
I'm tempted. My main army has everything I really need already. I've got two part finished armies from when I collected 20 years ago that need bulking out. This means I'll make good use of three of the combat patrols. The other 6 combat patrols should give me something fun to build and paint that I can try out in smaller games.
@brianhall4182 but that's what I mean. It's unfortunate that the second Market is so volatile. I had the imperium magazine and I traded and sold what I didn't want at cost of the magazine. It sucked their weren't more people trying that. I offered a guy 20 bucks for a battle sister he got in a 13 dollar magazine. He said it was worth 30. Sucked.
On the one hand, there's the shipping costs, which I think end up being somewhere around half of the discount you get compared to discount retailers, so that lowers the value. On the other hand, it IS a magazine, and you get some fun, if cheap, booklets to flip through every month. That adds some value.
Hypothetical but based on recent trend, GW are likely to increase their prices before or not far into this subscription, so it might turn out to be better value. That happened with Imperium.
Honestly I don't collect like most 40k players and I like having units from each faction rather than focusing on whole armies as I find it more fun swapping up the style of unit I'm painting now and then instead of doing all one faction in one go. So getting all the combat patrols like this is actually great for me, and will help me get a start on designing paint themes for each faction before I start looking to buy a full army worth like I did with the Necrons I got in the last magazine they did
On a Swiss point of view this is a very good magazine. Here the combat patrols are between 124 and 119 chf (~115 and 111 £) in retail (no official shop in switzerland). And I dont mention the transport and custom taxes if you bought abroad. If you add the premium side, its even better. One over note you mention that its quite unusuall to have many patrol boxes, but if you see it in the perspectives of a new player, he has the possibility of various gameplays with him and a friend. Dont forget that with the combat patrol rule set you have directly the possibility to play in opposition to the conquest or imperium magazine point wise. And with some ok ish starting hobby tools on top of it. For an more veteran player this is also a good opoortunity for some hooby projects and add some variaty in your collection but sure its less interessting. What you also dont have to look is that some have already the imperium and or the conquest. So its an opportunity to expend your space marine collection too. (I count the SM part here as this total of the patrol boxes are ~66% so a 9th of this is what you pay for 787:3:9=£58 GW price ~£116:2=£58 (no saving here). Imperium magazine SM represent aprox 1/4 of the total price so $701,22:4=£175,31 GW price ~£319.55. Conquest £629.20:3=£209.73 GW price ~£348.50)
I like it, but thats mainly because i enjoy the fun factor. Plus you can always sell on those kits you dont really want to keep, including any of the more premium ones that can bring the cost down.
One of the things I do like about the magazines, is the content within. Like, cheap models, paints etc is great. But having rules, scenarios, narratives, painting guides is really good. Especially for me being a new player. Just started stormbringers (Australia is just starting theirs). I prefer small armies combat stuff, started with killteam, and enjoying that very much. One day, I wish for a bloodbowl magazine, for teams, stadium, and star players.
As someone into 3d printing and subscribing to various patreons this is an interesting alternative. There's an appeal of getting a few miniatures and a booklet to go with it each week but as I live in Canada I think the price is just going to be a little too high even when factoring in discounts. It seems like it might be a cool way to get a friend or family member into the hobby. The weekly model might also be a good way to keep someone's hobby going. I could also see a club or group going in on it together.
Also, don't forget that GW has been releasing new combat patrols with every 10th E Codex release. Meaning if a Codex comes out before you get your CP it won't be the most recent one.
If I didn't have a backlog to work through it looks like it'd be really fun, but I've set a new years resolution that I am not buying any new models until I have at least painted my entire GW backlog (and budgeting for completing 3 kits a month I'm going to be busy until August next year)
for someone who is just messing with combat patrol atm, this is pretty nice, can sell off the patrols I have and the extra models to offset the cost. Least I would say that, but if the previous imperium magazines were anything to go by, these will be late to launch in aus and ridiculously short supply, dont think i know anyone who has the previous sub that didn't end up in a situaion where their issues didn't arrive simply because they repeatedly didnt/undershipped.
I'm a complete beginner and I'm kind of looking forward to it but the cost is a lot. I'm more interested in the painting and building side than the battling but that's because I know nothing. I believe they will update the offering later as it says the premium sets are issue 15, 33 , 51 and 69 which leaves 20 mags with no premium price potentially or a 5th premium. I thought that I might stop the sub after the first premium set as I believe it may give the space marines and tyranid combat patrols.
I was seriously considering picking up the AoS magazine and convincing a friend to split it with me. I like Stormcast, but there were too many model kits that I wasn't interested in. The Sylvaneth kits are pretty great, but they come in muuuuuuch later issues. Going with the combat patrols seems like a better idea from GW's side. But even then as a customer, it only makes sense if you are interested in those specific factions.
I ran all my own calculations and found that, with the Premium sub, even when compared against the 15% discount one can easily find at the FLGS you can still net an extra 25% discount on the minis. This isn't even counting the cost of the paints and extras, so those are basically thrown in for free. It's got a good value, I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth it for someone who already owns several combat patrol boxes. Im guessing you could easily real to break even on cost, doubtful about turning a net profit though, as single mags hitting the market around the same time will drop the take value.
Fauxhammer's website usually shows either the full contents (in the case of Stormbringer) or with Imperium he got a preview of the next 4 issues every month so you could see what was coming up when.
I would love to get those. I liked the idea of Imperium but neither of them ship to my country so getting them through some loops with some more additional cost is not worth it for me anymore.
Sounds tempting as I like the sound of a few combat patrols, to play that format, and somewhat regret missing out on the previous mags, but 9 is a lot and I've only recently assembled a couple of things from leviathan and still have an untouched DW cp and LI starter, so likely a Malthusian shamenami. It's a lot of money, overall, too... money that could go to an airbrush, some titans, codexes and new box sets for current 40k armies, food and bills, ...
If they released specific factions and just did an issue run for each faction everyone would get it probably also pay for exclusives/premiums and extras. Because it's jack of all trades and factions, only some will be up for it. Kinda wish they went for specific factions one at a time over the next year or two. Would sell way more copies imo.
Seeing and buying Warhammer Imperium at the newsagent got me interested in gaming again. I'm looking forward to this new Combat Patrol, unfortunately here in Australia they didn't offer the Premium subscription for Imperium and I suspect they will do it again. Honestly, I would have like to have seen them offer Kill Team instead, still get some of the Space Marines and regular 40k armies, but some of the more unique factions like Arbites and Kroot.
I feel like this is more fun if you are a seasoned player with 1-2 armies painted you can play rather than a new player. well, that is it you are looking to build and paint a variety of models and you don't need them to be a full army... so, basically, if you are in the miniature painting hobby rather than the wargaming hobby.
I'm definitely getting the Premium sub once it hits the US. For the price of one full-price kit a month, I get 1-3 kits from this. Especially notable since the discount retailers in the US aren't nearly as prevalent or generous as they seem to be in the UK. Besides, I already collect 5 of these armies, and I can either resell the other 4 or kitbash or repurpose them. Model overload? Certainly, I haven't even finished building and painting all my models from Imperium, but it's fun and I'll never want for options now.
This looks like a fun and less expensive way to get a lot of minis and variety for combat patrols if you don't like hauling minis around. Though if you got the Leviathan box and don't like an army or two the numbers are going to fall off quick.
The only issue i have is how would it be delivered to south America (if games workshop even is interested in doing so) or when to find a third-party web that could deliver it continuously to mantain the supply on the continent
You touched on a number of motivating factors that will vary from person to person. So, ultimately there's PERCEIVED levels value in this sort of product. For me, none. I don't want all the paints and tools, nor do I want a gagillion miniatures from factions I don't collect. I'd be better off buying a couple of the combat patrols instead. Thorough breakdown in the however, and that is appreciated.
Buy all the issues Sell the ones you don't want Pays for your army I was buying issue 50 for imperium mag Cost 20 bucks Sold for 130 on ebay Done that 10 times Paid for my army with profit
Thanks for breaking it down. I was very tempted but 10% off and 80 weeks to finish has put me in the absolutely not camp. I think I'd prefer to just get a couple of individual combat patrols and not faff about with reselling.
I was looking forward to the next magazine subscription since I missed the last one. I play alot of combat patrol tournaments just for fun the issue with this is that I already have half the combat patrols it gives.
You're better off just spending money on the specific things you need. You do save money, but you're buying things you don't need or want just because it's at a discount and it's almost guaranteed to cause buyer's remorse. How many times have you wanted just a hamburger but they offer you discounted fries and a drink and you think "Well... I am saving money off the full menu prices, I guess I should buy the combo" then regretted it after? Unless you do collect every faction or have a group of friends who want to share the subscription cost with you, you'll be stuck with tons of models you don't want for your "pile of shame." Resist the urge of the fake discount.
I'm in the US and I got the full run of the Premium edition of Imperium. I was satisfied with it, it was very nice having something to look forward to every couple weeks (or a pleasant surprise). That being said I'm really not interested in this Magazine. I can't put my finger on why, the selection of minis seems cool,it's just not doing it for me...
Lets put it this way. If I could go back in time as I understood what this was, I would have bought the Lord of the Rings magazine set as a 13 year old back in 2001/2002, it would have saved money, despite the trade off being that it took 2 or so years before finishing the collection. For the Warhammer 40k magazine, it is best for those whom never heard of Warhammer/Games Workshop and a chance to get into a new hobby whereas for those whom know the system might enjoy purchasing these only if we have never bought that faction to save money because it always comes with another faction where the person familiar with the system might risk doubling up on miniatures if they do not want to build a second army of said faction or have no interest in said faction, unless they use those miniatures as part of base decorations.
I am a little confused now about how this releases, if say I wanted the World Eaters section and the Demon Prince would I be able to sub early in the run when the Demon Prince goes and be able to tick a box or something for World Eaters aswell or would I have to sub for a period to get the Demon Prince than cancel my sub to later sub again to get the World Eaters section?
Issue 1 will be available to buy in UK stores on 10th January. Issue 2 will be available on 24th January. Issue 3 will be available on 31st January. Issue 4 will be available on 7th February. Alternatively, subscribe now to get your issues delivered straight to your door! How many issues are there in the collection? There are currently 90 issues planned. How much does each issue cost? Issue 1 comes at the special price of £2.99. Premium subscribers pay £4.99. Issue 2 comes at the special price of £6.99. Premium subscribers pay £8.99. Issue 3 onwards is priced at £9.99. Premium subscribers pay £11.99. Please note that a premium subscription is not available to those starting their subscription from Issue 6 onwards. is this the same thing? because im sure this is more expensive and 90 - issues too? no being funny just summing things up
I wish this was available on my region (South America) looks very appealing for me and just seems like the perfect introduction into the hobby outside of the only local game store in the whole country
The first premium set wouldn't be a bad idea to fill out my Blood Angels (I put my Leviathan marines into my Dark Angels, so doubles wouldn't hurt) and doubling up on a lot of the Tyranids to add a Hive Tyrant also doesn't hurt. Everything after that though... meh, I'd probably just cancel after the first 20 issues.
Get a group of friends or just other players you know. Split the bill. Then just split what each person wants between each other. It would be an easy and cheap way to get units for a group of people at a lower cost though would be a bit slow obviously. Bit of an odd system and for general collection I think this is great for building an army less so. If you're just into collecting go for this cause you keep getting kits to make of all kinds, for actually playing and building an army get some others involved.
Not considering the value of the magazine in the equation saddens me, i collected imperium, i enjoyed the magazines, they give you all the rules and data for minis which has a value
Hows this then. I already have the Nid half of Leviathan (split with a friend) and the Onslaught box. I'm interested in the World Eaters patrol and particularly that Daemom Prince. If it lines up that the 2nd batch of mags (volumes 21 -40) contain the Eaters patrol - could I pay for a premium sub for ONLY the 2nd block and would it be worth it? Largely think its a no, but another armies patrol for cheaper will let me try a new army??
I’m a little past halfway through the Warhammer imperium subscription and it’s been awesome. Just enough models per month to build and paint. I can’t wait to subscribe for this next group of models! I don’t actually play 40k but am obsessed with the lore and collecting/ painting models and this is perfect for me.
As a relatively new person to the game I was pretty interested initially, i like the idea. However i don't feel I need that many combat patrols, especially for £50 a month plus shipping. I would rather put the same money aside, support my FLGS and buy a couple of the ones that do interest me and put the rest in to developing a chosen army.
9 patrols just seems like way too many, and only focuses on a sub section of 40k play. Not to mention they will only focus a few armies through each quarter, meaning certain combat patrols you wont see till way later in the subscription. I can imagine a scenario where the first quarter ends people have space marine and Tyranid combat patrols and are completely satisfied with those two armies and cancel the subscription realizing 9 armies might be a bit too daunting. What I would have liked to seen would have been maybe 2 subscription options each with 2 armies that go from combat patrol all the way to 2000+ point armies. Then near the end trickle in models from other armies as a precursor to the next 2 subscription options you release hoping to get them to roll right into that subscription. Would be interesting to know the value you get from just getting the certain magazines you want for say one combat patrol out of the 9. Still could be a affordable way to get a combat patrol for a army you don't have.
If you can split it with friends so you get the full benefit of every faction, then the value is incedible
I didn't even think about that, but that's a phenomenal idea. Thanks!
I don't have friends...
Jupp, that's why i asked my gaming group the first day i saw it. If you can split it it's an awesome deal
@@aopt471 I have brother, but it can go so far though
Yeah, but combat patrols seem kind of intro points for collecting minis, and then this way of buying them kind of sucks. I mean, if two people want to get into the hobby and friend 1 wants to get space marines then he's fine, but he's gonna have to wait months until friend 2 gets his combat patrol, especially if that person wants one of the later factions. So it's very likely that one person is just gonna sit on a fully built army before his friend even gets a single model. This only really works if you have several friends that already have models, and play one of these factions, and haven't already bought the combat patrols.
I know it's not common but for those thinking about it- having sample sizes of multiple factions really rejuvenates the game for you- being able to play x or y or z whenever you want. If you can, get it
tbh even if you sub to half the run, you got a lot of shit
@@geargraphic2620 I think the best way to do this would be to split it with 1 or 2 friends.
I've thought about doing this for that reason, with the caveat being that some of my local communities tend to be down on people who don't have a full 2000-point list (more so my main Sigmar community than its 40k counterpart, who seem more forgiving about this), so I'm taking that into consideration as well.
Literally what I've been up 2 😂 I'm making a trezan inspired display case, with a plethora of factions in it.
@@dracosummoner yeah 2000 is always a good point to aim for but waiting until you got all units from the army you want might take all 80 weeks. Other option is to sell all extra units of armies you don't want.
From a hobbying perspective, getting a slow trickle of new minis to try and complete before the next delivery sounds entertaining.
BUT when I thought about the fact you can get 2 complete 2000point armies for the price of the magazine run, I kind of decided it's not a great idea. Choose your 2 favorite factions and spend £40 a month, and you'll end up much happier by the end of 80 weeks.
Yeah I agree 100%
You get a lot of plastic in this collection but for most part it is going to be things you didn't really want in the first place.
Getting two full armies that are playable and more or less complete is much more worthwhile and much more enjoyable.
That's why I think Imperium and Stormbringer for AoS are better deals overall. Especially with how few points some of these Combat Patrols are worth.
Can you just buy the subcription for like 2 months, and not the whole run? If so, I’d have some interest in this.
I'm a Marine player so I'm a little biased. I really enjoyed the last 2 runs and what it offered, I'm a little disappointed in this one if I'm honest.
i Agree too
I'm disappointed, I was expecting a Leviathan collection to beef up my Tyranid army.
For someone collecting and playing for 30yrs, this is just gonna be fun to have multiple factions to play here and there for fun. Looking forward to the U.S release! =)
Have they confirmed a US release? Newish to the hobby and after looking it up I couldn’t find anything official on it coming to America
I totally agree. If this comes to US I will truly be giving my friends "the first hits free" experience lol
@@Epsilvonicnot that I’ve heard of, but most likely they will release it in the U.S due to the success of imperium
@@mrvonfluffykins176it’d be fun to do a bunch of varied combat patrols!
Good luck with that. GW can barely get their shit over to the US, you really think that some random company can do any better?
Don't forget to factor in the shipping costs, It effects the price pretty substantially.
Imperium shipping was like $7 per monthly set in the US. And they charge you $10 per binder that comes out every several months that you can't request to skip.
Shipping costs are a good part of why I didn't subscribe to Imperium.
@DataAllister you just email customer service and ask them to remove the binder from your order once you get the "free" one, it's completely within your rights to do so, it's an optional purchase they just automatically sign you up to unless you opt out
You also have time to remove any additional costs they add, as you'll receive a letter in the previous month detailing it, like in the previous run there was a pair of books and an art book
I know about both of these because I did it
@nukem8128 that is a GREAT point. I hope people don't forget about taxes and potential other fees. I live in CAN and was being charged +$67 per month for Imperium and a $6.95 shipping charge all of which were in USD (so at the mercy of exchange rates and provincial/federal taxes). So what started out as a few bucks an issue for the premium subscription quickly went up to approx $115 CAD a month which is fine if you've planned for it. I can only imagine what the Aussies and Kiwi's are subjected to as they seem to have it worst of all.
People who subcribed to Warhammer 40.000: Conquest/Imperium:
UK and USA: We have to pay the delivery costs!😭😭😭
Germany: You guys having to pay for delivery?🧐
Jokes aside, the germans really didn't paid for the delivery for those Magazines, because in the Description stands that delivery is free to Germany. Only Austrian, Swiss and Luxembourg had just to pay 0,50 €, according to the upcoming Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Stormbringer, which starts on the 10th of January 2024.
Also i know you guys got your delivery for 4 Issues.
In Germany (as i experienced) we started with 3 Issues in the first Delivery, 4 in the second and for the rest of the run with 6 Issues (though we must wait 6 weeks for it).
Except for the last one, which contain 7 Issues for Conquest and 5 for Imperium, due to the extended run from 80 to 90 Issues.
So you have my condolences!
I think if you looked at it differently, if you spent £40 - 50 a month, at 3rd party retailers, on specific models you want for a faction or two factions, whilst looking at like xmas boxes or starter kits as well, then over 18 months you'd have two very nice armies of stuff you want. I kind of feel by going for NINE factions this will put a lot of people off.
Agreed. I'd less than half of these sets.
In my playgroup of 4 players we play 7 out of the 9 factions currently. This feels like a definite win
Which 2 do you not by chance?
@@israeldelarosa5461 Chaos Space Marines and Eldar
@@adambartholomew6575 Those are two good factions, your playgroup should give them a shot. I can’t vouch much for Eldar since I don’t play it, but I love CSM, especially how you can play it any way you like, play Iron Warriors and focus on the Machines, Word Bearers if you want to mix up with Demons, Night Lords and Alpha Legion for each of their specific funny brand of opponent mind fuckery, or Black Legion if you wanna be the Ultramarines of Chaos.
I did almost a full run of imperium and included the binders and premium sets. I think it was a pretty decent deal. Anything you dont want or need you can resell. I liked the factions bettwr for Imperium. But this doesnt look bad either.
If you pick the faction you like and spend the same amount of money that you would on the magazine sub you will have a much better army and models you actually want.
Yes, but if you want a variety of small armies or have a group of friends who want different armies then this would be great to boost your armies.
This is for new players to get them into the game casually not people who are going to buy specific units from the start.
Im working towards doing commissions at some point. I often feel i dont have enough experience (just space marines, gk and csm in my current collection). Im really interested in this series because of the additional painting experience ill gain
Best of luck on your painting journey!
Not to mention diversity of the models and preparation work involved. That would be pretty entertaining in itself.
As a full time commission painter I would advise to just go for the commissions. Working with clients (with strange requests) is quite a different experience then practicing for yourself.
Also, selling every model you paint is not for everyone, it ruins the "hobby" feel quite bit.
Quite a few people give commissions a try and then release they actually don't want their hobby to become a job.
That's all valuable experience that this kind of project won't give you, in addition to this costing money and not making you any!
This seems best for a couple of friends to share. If you and a buddy or two split it up it could be a ton of fun.
Seems like it might be good to split a subscription with friends if you know ppl who play a good mix of these factions.
Let's see if Australia actually gets the option of the premium packages this time. We missed out on it for Imperium Magazine :/
Surely the fact that many of these combat patrols are likely to be changed by GW over the course of this magazine is something to consider. Orks codex are released in spring and if following GW current trend you may be getting an old combat patrol (which tbf could be better given how they have updated the admech and necrons). Something to consider regardless!
That said if you look in the new White Dwarf they just added the old Vanguard Marines set as an additional Combat Patrol - so the old combat patrol minus the Impulsor. If that's indicative of their direction going forward chances are they'll be adding more stuff to combat patrol mode rather than removing or replacing things. Although the actual combat patrol kits themselves might get replaced over time.
yes too. the new Combat patrol's miniatures V10 are poor or bad in incursion mode !
I think the main thing im looking forward to is have a lot more to kit bash with
The additions to my armies will be great over doubling my newest but to have more grey to smash together will be fun
Yeah. It's a much better idea to just pick a couple combat patrols you're interested in, get them from a discount retailer, and pay like 250 dollars instead of 1200. I have no idea who this is marketed to. Beginners won't want to dive THIS deep into the hobby to begin with. Veterans won't want the paints/brushes, or the models that don't go with their current army. If you want to collect a NEW army there's no reason why you'd want to start 7 at once.
Yeh kind of agree, can't ever seeing myself wanting all these factions, like there are a few other factions I might want to start at some point as an addition to my main army but what do I do with all the rest? Maybe sell them online I suppose but no guarantee you'll get good value. I think for people who wanted to start a 2nd or 3rd army, like you say much better to pick up a combat patrol or xmas box or whatever for that faction from a 3rd party retailer, add a couple of other kits on top and you can probably get a 1k army on the table for £150 or something. Plus I'd imagine a lot of people are like me, where their main army would get a lot of duplicate kits, I am pretty sure I have all if not most of those SM models.
If I was in one of the countries that offer this I'd pick it up right away. I love dipping my toes in almost all factions in the game, if nothing else, just for the painting aspect.
New people and resellers? If you ever saw one of those magazines as a kid where it was like "buy this magazine and you can build this awesome RC car! issue 1 only £2.99!" Then it turns out the regular price is £14.99 and you need to buy 50 issues to get all the bits. It makes the deal seem considerably worse.
I like to buy the individual magazines with things I want from newsagents.
I feel like I'm gonna try and pick up individual issues and focus on the character units to build up my collection. The Brutalis Dread is tempting but I'd doubt the first 20 issues would give me everything I'd want and need.
That is exactly what I will be trying to do.
If I had to get 20 issues deep to get a Brutalis I'd rather just go and buy a Brutalis
Isn't the brutalis part of the premium category? Meaning it is only shipped those who subscribe for premium, and it won't be on shelves?
Its a good idea but is almost impossible in practice. Most physical stores will stop selling the range after a while because reasons. Online stores are sold out day one because of scalpers.
Having a ton of half-armies and major variety is exactly what I want out of the hobby. The ability to hand a friend an entire combat patrol and let people learn to play a new faction, or even the entire game is like being able to share joy with someone.
I also 100% guarantee the good kits will sell out fast. You can still find Imperium and even Conquest magazines with the paints in them. No one wanted those.
The Best collection for Scaplers !
Something to take into account is the combat patrol mod : small armies with custom rules to balance them.
GW might be trying to push more people toward it.
The extra miniature are here to tempt us toward 1000 points armies, because patrol+1/2 model isn't really playable on its own.
From my personnal point of view, what I prefer is dipping into factions lore while painting them, more than having a horde of a less limited number of factions, so I might go for it.
I played Patrouille for several months. The rules are unbalanced and it got boring in the end !
And you want to play in 1000 points and more. But the new V10 patrols are average or bad for a good base :(
Compared to Imperium (which I got) one advantage here is that it's much easier to sell the combat patrols you don't want that the single random kits.
You missed that if you read the terms and conditions, every now and then (every 15 issues or so) they also send you extra Binders and divider pages and charge you £10.99 for that on top so reduces the savings even further
Where does it say that? They're listed under "free" gifts currently.
@@BeardHammerGaming in the terms and conditions. They don't show the 3 extra sets that you get sent and automatically charged for unless you look at the T&Cs
@@BeardHammerGaming "As a subscriber, you will automatically receive binders with Issues 23, 43 and 63 at a cost of £10.99 each. If you subscribe from Issues 05, 06 or 07, you will also receive a binder with Issue 10."
I think that's only if you start after a certain issue. Like 1-3 you'll get it included as you've subbed from the start
I think it's a good deal compared to buying all these Combat Patrols individually but then it would have to be. If we just look at price overall not comparing GW products with GW products then I would say no, nothing they do is a 'Good' deal!
How can you not mention shipping costs?! Its a gigantic part of the overall cost, in the US, shipping was over 60% of the total cost added on top. By your math, it would be significantly CHEAPER to buy from ebay once you take predatory shipping fees into account.
Cmon auspex, you are usually better about being honest with the numbers.
probably because Auspex is UK based where the shipping is free, and all the prices in the video are in GBP, and the shipping cost to US wasnt heavily publicised so not so easy for him to get hold of like other region prices in some other videos
This idea 💡 is absolutely perfect for me.
Decided to retire early in January at 55, although I have many things to do in my hopefully 🤞 long retirement I have always wanted to get into GW but held back due to work constraints and the inevitable wrath from my wife towards my dust ridden pile of shame 😡 collection.
I have just invested in the starter set and paints so although I understand I wouldn’t need the SM and Tyranids kits from these I will be subscribing to the full package due to getting all the painting instructions, rules etc plus the extra goodies so I can spend some time using my current purchase to practise on and get some experience and then when all the CP have arrived I can then progress on armies I want to build up e.g. Orks (after all who doesn’t love 🥰 an Ork) 😃
As I say perfect for me but I can see that probably a large percentage of collectors it probably has limited appeal but as the saying goes you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Roll on Q4 2024 👍🏻
Nice, sounds perfect for you!
TBH doubling up on most of the Space marine and Tyranid kits from the starter set wouldnt be a huge problem anyway. The characters you likely wont need multiples of but you can always ebay those or have a stab at converting them
I'm just getting back into the hobby and really am just looking for a huge variety of things to paint and mess around with. This seems like a pretty good deal to me XD
It is for sure, though a the same time don't get overloaded. I have a pile of plastic to paint and I've stopped myself from buying new stuff until I've finished my current.
@Myder_Dragon I remember the pile of doom from when I was a teen collecting XD. Well, if I get this subscription, I will have enough models to paint for a couple years likely, unless I go through a painting binge one vacation. I have an air brush now, and a better work flow for tackling painting projects, so hopefully I won't get completely overwhelmed!
I did a video on Stormbringer. In there, I detail how the ORDER things are done in is a huge influence on it. Are the Patrols done in order? Are they broken into pieces? Do they stack a ton of the best goodies in the first few issues?
Stormbringer's opening issues are pretty stacked, with a Krondys at just box 5 waiting for those who buy Premium. By issue 18, you have the entirely of the Mid-range Sigmar starter, the Generals from the small Starter, a heavy unit for each army, a pair of Underworlds Warbands, rare Underworlds terrain, 10 paints, the brushes, nippers, and glue to assemble it all...and Krondys. For about $250? I mean, then you can go ahead and bail, you've made out like a bandit.
Ebay is about to be saturated with Terminator Captains and Winged Primes.
Defiently Tyranids and Astra caught my eyes, might pick up individual issues to get the Von Ryan's, Terms, and Barbs to help fill in my leviathan box tyranids a bit more, while Astra I could get the sentinel and the cadians, maybe even multiples if it's possible
The lists are actually pretty solid for 1k if you get the premium sub edition.
Orks only need mozrog or maybe a battle wagon and meganobs to hit 1k.
The space marines need a bit more but the vanguard detachment letting you make either a terminator character or the bike Chaplin a lone operative is big for flexibility. It’ll either be a fast bike or a deep striker. Getting more terminators is the easiest pick but outriders could work (especially if you have a 9th edition elite half lying around or at your locals).
The csm and world eaters halfs work fabulous together. You can make a 1k list out of either box with the three shared models.
GSC with the guard as brood brothers has so many options to hit 1k it’s not even funny.
Aeldari and guard need the most help but are pretty easy to get to 750 with one more cheep kit each.
League’s pretty desperate for some vehicles and maybe grimnyr.
Tyranids is easy just get genestealers to run with the brood lord from the GSC half.
£787 v £1215 is a definite good discount, but it really does depend entirely on wanting everything in the set, in the order they come in the magazine, over the timespan of the sub. Splitting with someone else would decrease that likelihood of "waste", for sure, but it means that you're not "getting something every week" which is part of the attraction of this kind of thing.
But too scattergun for me, and not enough value in terms of what i want - there's a lot in there i'd just never buy and i don't have the patience for reselling. I'll just stick to buying the things i actually want.
The raw discount is impressive, but I probably have no use for over half of them - either because I already own one (or more) or because I have no interest in that army. This would be a great deal if you & some friends could divvy up the minis & split the costs.
One thing I will warn people about as someone who subscribed to the first run of this 40k magazine.
There is other things that they don't tell about until the month before, which they will charge you for, on a sort of 'opt out' method of business.
These can be upwards of £15 pounds added on top of your order.
Examples of things I got.
A silver templars painting box (which was actually really cool. Ring binder guide, 5 intercessors. 1 lieutenant who you couldn't buy at the time. And about 10 paints)
Silver templars novel
Silver templars codex
So just bare this in mind as the cost could end up being upwards of an extra £100+ on your subscription by the end.
As an adult with a fairly limited amount of free time I don't think these subscriptions are worth it, but with the time to delve into reading each magazine and keep up to date with painting the models you get I think this would be fantastic. I got the Conquest subscription when it came out in Australia and it was way too much each month so it just ended up in a box that I pulled out individual ones occasionally and mostly ignored the magazines.
From what I read of the magazines they would have been the kind of thing that would definitely add to the experience for someone new who has the time, and would add to the value. They had a gentle introduction to the game, a decent amount of lore, and (fairly basic but easy for a beginner to follow) painting instructions.
My experience with their chat support was frustrating, but their phone support was pretty great. So if you go for this and need to contact support (which wouldn't be unexpected for them) I'd recommend you go by phone if possible.
I feel like the video kind of neglects the value for painters, hyper focussing on a single faction for an extended period of time really limits your ability to paint well. Someone who paints nothing but space marines might be great at flat armour, but fall apart painting flesh. Having an array of random discounted kits turn up at your door each month makes for absolutely fantastic practice. Not to mention citadel paints and tools, while overpriced normally, are still good quality and worth using, random paints may push you to work in colours you normally don't bother with too.
Personally, I think the value here is insane for anyone who wants to broaden their ability to paint well.
If you’re getting all the the combat patrols and extras over a year and a half plus some juicy lore in the magazine it might definitely be a fun thing to look forward to in the mail
The lore in imperium was all very newb friendly, as in this was babies first warhammer experience in mind. So i wouldnt buy this for the lore.
There's 90 issues at E17.50 for premium is 1575 /9 factions = 175 euro for a combat patrol and a bonus unit for 8 of the factions (CSM and WE share a demon prince) + brushes and paints
This is entirely speculative on my part, but traditionally the unique mini comes in issue 5 of these hachette magazine lines
I’m gonna be getting this for two reasons, the second being more so why overall.
1. Many miniatures I want / would love to add to my collection as a newer player or use them for bits / onsell what I don’t need.
2. For my friends, I don’t think a lot of people put this together but if you have many warhammer friends it’s pretty nice being able to help expand their armies, or getting them some units for cheaper than normal.
The marines can go to a friend, the votann and orks to another, the astra militatrum to another. Tyranids to myself. The others can be used in between for various stuff/getting new friends into the hobby who might wanna try it.
I'm tempted. My main army has everything I really need already. I've got two part finished armies from when I collected 20 years ago that need bulking out. This means I'll make good use of three of the combat patrols. The other 6 combat patrols should give me something fun to build and paint that I can try out in smaller games.
I like the idea of making it accessible to more factions, but because it’s combat patrol there’s nothing here that really interests me.
I think they would be great for the secend hand market assuming people didnt get greedy with selling them.
Nah. These get scooped up really quickly and tossed up onto Ebay at inflated prices, as always.
@brianhall4182 but that's what I mean. It's unfortunate that the second Market is so volatile. I had the imperium magazine and I traded and sold what I didn't want at cost of the magazine. It sucked their weren't more people trying that. I offered a guy 20 bucks for a battle sister he got in a 13 dollar magazine. He said it was worth 30. Sucked.
Scalpers win sur !
@DMDuncan37 thats a bummer.
@@NeonFlaming0 It's stupid because you can often buy cheaper from independent sellers !
On the one hand, there's the shipping costs, which I think end up being somewhere around half of the discount you get compared to discount retailers, so that lowers the value. On the other hand, it IS a magazine, and you get some fun, if cheap, booklets to flip through every month. That adds some value.
Hypothetical but based on recent trend, GW are likely to increase their prices before or not far into this subscription, so it might turn out to be better value. That happened with Imperium.
All I want is that infernus sculpt for my Salamanders but I feel like it might end up costing a bit depending on what you have to buy/do to get him :c
Same! I NEED that sassy Infernus Sgt sculpt!
Honestly I don't collect like most 40k players and I like having units from each faction rather than focusing on whole armies as I find it more fun swapping up the style of unit I'm painting now and then instead of doing all one faction in one go.
So getting all the combat patrols like this is actually great for me, and will help me get a start on designing paint themes for each faction before I start looking to buy a full army worth like I did with the Necrons I got in the last magazine they did
On a Swiss point of view this is a very good magazine. Here the combat patrols are between 124 and 119 chf (~115 and 111 £) in retail (no official shop in switzerland). And I dont mention the transport and custom taxes if you bought abroad.
If you add the premium side, its even better.
One over note you mention that its quite unusuall to have many patrol boxes, but if you see it in the perspectives of a new player, he has the possibility of various gameplays with him and a friend. Dont forget that with the combat patrol rule set you have directly the possibility to play in opposition to the conquest or imperium magazine point wise.
And with some ok ish starting hobby tools on top of it.
For an more veteran player this is also a good opoortunity for some hooby projects and add some variaty in your collection but sure its less interessting.
What you also dont have to look is that some have already the imperium and or the conquest. So its an opportunity to expend your space marine collection too. (I count the SM part here as this total of the patrol boxes are ~66% so a 9th of this is what you pay for 787:3:9=£58 GW price ~£116:2=£58 (no saving here). Imperium magazine SM represent aprox 1/4 of the total price so $701,22:4=£175,31 GW price ~£319.55. Conquest £629.20:3=£209.73 GW price ~£348.50)
I like it, but thats mainly because i enjoy the fun factor.
Plus you can always sell on those kits you dont really want to keep, including any of the more premium ones that can bring the cost down.
One of the things I do like about the magazines, is the content within. Like, cheap models, paints etc is great. But having rules, scenarios, narratives, painting guides is really good. Especially for me being a new player. Just started stormbringers (Australia is just starting theirs). I prefer small armies combat stuff, started with killteam, and enjoying that very much.
One day, I wish for a bloodbowl magazine, for teams, stadium, and star players.
As someone into 3d printing and subscribing to various patreons this is an interesting alternative. There's an appeal of getting a few miniatures and a booklet to go with it each week but as I live in Canada I think the price is just going to be a little too high even when factoring in discounts.
It seems like it might be a cool way to get a friend or family member into the hobby. The weekly model might also be a good way to keep someone's hobby going. I could also see a club or group going in on it together.
Also, don't forget that GW has been releasing new combat patrols with every 10th E Codex release. Meaning if a Codex comes out before you get your CP it won't be the most recent one.
Or you might get the new one and not the one you were expecting being as the old ones are often better value. Could go either way.
Any idea on how to get in on this or when it starts? I would very much appreciate
If I didn't have a backlog to work through it looks like it'd be really fun, but I've set a new years resolution that I am not buying any new models until I have at least painted my entire GW backlog (and budgeting for completing 3 kits a month I'm going to be busy until August next year)
GW, just sell me the Master of Possession model by itself!
And do it on a weekend so it's up when I'm not at work.
It can be said for any bundle of special offer, it's only a discount if you were going to buy the items anyway.
Hopefully they announce a USA release soon because this seems really exciting!
for someone who is just messing with combat patrol atm, this is pretty nice, can sell off the patrols I have and the extra models to offset the cost.
Least I would say that, but if the previous imperium magazines were anything to go by, these will be late to launch in aus and ridiculously short supply, dont think i know anyone who has the previous sub that didn't end up in a situaion where their issues didn't arrive simply because they repeatedly didnt/undershipped.
I'm a complete beginner and I'm kind of looking forward to it but the cost is a lot. I'm more interested in the painting and building side than the battling but that's because I know nothing.
I believe they will update the offering later as it says the premium sets are issue 15, 33 , 51 and 69 which leaves 20 mags with no premium price potentially or a 5th premium.
I thought that I might stop the sub after the first premium set as I believe it may give the space marines and tyranid combat patrols.
How would i subscribe to this magazine though?
Bro I've paid 160 for centerpieces that got nerfed onto my shelf before. I'll drop 160 to keep me interested in warhammer after the Necron codex.
I was seriously considering picking up the AoS magazine and convincing a friend to split it with me. I like Stormcast, but there were too many model kits that I wasn't interested in. The Sylvaneth kits are pretty great, but they come in muuuuuuch later issues.
Going with the combat patrols seems like a better idea from GW's side. But even then as a customer, it only makes sense if you are interested in those specific factions.
I ran all my own calculations and found that, with the Premium sub, even when compared against the 15% discount one can easily find at the FLGS you can still net an extra 25% discount on the minis. This isn't even counting the cost of the paints and extras, so those are basically thrown in for free. It's got a good value, I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth it for someone who already owns several combat patrol boxes. Im guessing you could easily real to break even on cost, doubtful about turning a net profit though, as single mags hitting the market around the same time will drop the take value.
Have there previously been easy ways to see which models are included with individual issues in advance?
Fauxhammer's website usually shows either the full contents (in the case of Stormbringer) or with Imperium he got a preview of the next 4 issues every month so you could see what was coming up when.
I would love to get those. I liked the idea of Imperium but neither of them ship to my country so getting them through some loops with some more additional cost is not worth it for me anymore.
Sounds tempting as I like the sound of a few combat patrols, to play that format, and somewhat regret missing out on the previous mags, but 9 is a lot and I've only recently assembled a couple of things from leviathan and still have an untouched DW cp and LI starter, so likely a Malthusian shamenami. It's a lot of money, overall, too... money that could go to an airbrush, some titans, codexes and new box sets for current 40k armies, food and bills, ...
It’s 90’ again 🎉
If they released specific factions and just did an issue run for each faction everyone would get it probably also pay for exclusives/premiums and extras. Because it's jack of all trades and factions, only some will be up for it. Kinda wish they went for specific factions one at a time over the next year or two. Would sell way more copies imo.
Seeing and buying Warhammer Imperium at the newsagent got me interested in gaming again. I'm looking forward to this new Combat Patrol, unfortunately here in Australia they didn't offer the Premium subscription for Imperium and I suspect they will do it again. Honestly, I would have like to have seen them offer Kill Team instead, still get some of the Space Marines and regular 40k armies, but some of the more unique factions like Arbites and Kroot.
I'm already planning on subscribing. I just need to know when the US release is.
I feel like this is more fun if you are a seasoned player with 1-2 armies painted you can play rather than a new player.
well, that is it you are looking to build and paint a variety of models and you don't need them to be a full army...
so, basically, if you are in the miniature painting hobby rather than the wargaming hobby.
I'm definitely getting the Premium sub once it hits the US. For the price of one full-price kit a month, I get 1-3 kits from this. Especially notable since the discount retailers in the US aren't nearly as prevalent or generous as they seem to be in the UK. Besides, I already collect 5 of these armies, and I can either resell the other 4 or kitbash or repurpose them.
Model overload? Certainly, I haven't even finished building and painting all my models from Imperium, but it's fun and I'll never want for options now.
This looks like a fun and less expensive way to get a lot of minis and variety for combat patrols if you don't like hauling minis around.
Though if you got the Leviathan box and don't like an army or two the numbers are going to fall off quick.
The only issue i have is how would it be delivered to south America (if games workshop even is interested in doing so) or when to find a third-party web that could deliver it continuously to mantain the supply on the continent
You touched on a number of motivating factors that will vary from person to person. So, ultimately there's PERCEIVED levels value in this sort of product. For me, none. I don't want all the paints and tools, nor do I want a gagillion miniatures from factions I don't collect. I'd be better off buying a couple of the combat patrols instead. Thorough breakdown in the however, and that is appreciated.
Buy all the issues
Sell the ones you don't want
Pays for your army
I was buying issue 50 for imperium mag
Cost 20 bucks
Sold for 130 on ebay
Done that 10 times
Paid for my army with profit
Thanks for breaking it down. I was very tempted but 10% off and 80 weeks to finish has put me in the absolutely not camp. I think I'd prefer to just get a couple of individual combat patrols and not faff about with reselling.
The minis from the magazine don't come with the transfer, if i remember correctly, that is a thing to consider too
I was looking forward to the next magazine subscription since I missed the last one. I play alot of combat patrol tournaments just for fun the issue with this is that I already have half the combat patrols it gives.
You're better off just spending money on the specific things you need. You do save money, but you're buying things you don't need or want just because it's at a discount and it's almost guaranteed to cause buyer's remorse. How many times have you wanted just a hamburger but they offer you discounted fries and a drink and you think "Well... I am saving money off the full menu prices, I guess I should buy the combo" then regretted it after?
Unless you do collect every faction or have a group of friends who want to share the subscription cost with you, you'll be stuck with tons of models you don't want for your "pile of shame." Resist the urge of the fake discount.
So I've gotten all of Conquest and Imperium and the premium kits/offer hasn't been available in Australia, I don't think it's on offer for overseas?
I'm in the US and I got the full run of the Premium edition of Imperium. I was satisfied with it, it was very nice having something to look forward to every couple weeks (or a pleasant surprise). That being said I'm really not interested in this Magazine. I can't put my finger on why, the selection of minis seems cool,it's just not doing it for me...
Lets put it this way. If I could go back in time as I understood what this was, I would have bought the Lord of the Rings magazine set as a 13 year old back in 2001/2002, it would have saved money, despite the trade off being that it took 2 or so years before finishing the collection. For the Warhammer 40k magazine, it is best for those whom never heard of Warhammer/Games Workshop and a chance to get into a new hobby whereas for those whom know the system might enjoy purchasing these only if we have never bought that faction to save money because it always comes with another faction where the person familiar with the system might risk doubling up on miniatures if they do not want to build a second army of said faction or have no interest in said faction, unless they use those miniatures as part of base decorations.
Where do you go to subscribe to these? I have been looking for a link or site.
I am a little confused now about how this releases, if say I wanted the World Eaters section and the Demon Prince would I be able to sub early in the run when the Demon Prince goes and be able to tick a box or something for World Eaters aswell or would I have to sub for a period to get the Demon Prince than cancel my sub to later sub again to get the World Eaters section?
Issue 1 will be available to buy in UK stores on 10th January. Issue 2 will be available on 24th January. Issue 3 will be available on 31st January. Issue 4 will be available on 7th February.
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How many issues are there in the collection?
There are currently 90 issues planned.
How much does each issue cost?
Issue 1 comes at the special price of £2.99. Premium subscribers pay £4.99.
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Issue 3 onwards is priced at £9.99. Premium subscribers pay £11.99.
Please note that a premium subscription is not available to those starting their subscription from Issue 6 onwards.
is this the same thing? because im sure this is more expensive and 90 - issues too? no being funny just summing things up
I wish this was available on my region (South America) looks very appealing for me and just seems like the perfect introduction into the hobby outside of the only local game store in the whole country
The first premium set wouldn't be a bad idea to fill out my Blood Angels (I put my Leviathan marines into my Dark Angels, so doubles wouldn't hurt) and doubling up on a lot of the Tyranids to add a Hive Tyrant also doesn't hurt. Everything after that though... meh, I'd probably just cancel after the first 20 issues.
When is this coming out in the shops? Any info on this would be appreciated
Get a group of friends or just other players you know. Split the bill. Then just split what each person wants between each other. It would be an easy and cheap way to get units for a group of people at a lower cost though would be a bit slow obviously.
Bit of an odd system and for general collection I think this is great for building an army less so. If you're just into collecting go for this cause you keep getting kits to make of all kinds, for actually playing and building an army get some others involved.
Not considering the value of the magazine in the equation saddens me, i collected imperium, i enjoyed the magazines, they give you all the rules and data for minis which has a value
Is there any update on when this will actually release?
Honestly my plan would be to eBay sell the full combat patrols plus extra model for like £60 for any army I don’t collect making it all worth it imo
Hows this then.
I already have the Nid half of Leviathan (split with a friend) and the Onslaught box.
I'm interested in the World Eaters patrol and particularly that Daemom Prince.
If it lines up that the 2nd batch of mags (volumes 21 -40) contain the Eaters patrol - could I pay for a premium sub for ONLY the 2nd block and would it be worth it?
Largely think its a no, but another armies patrol for cheaper will let me try a new army??
Any updates on when whe can subscribe to this? I've been looking and can't see a listing for it anywhere o their official website
I’m simultaneously jealous and happy for the UK.
I’m a little past halfway through the Warhammer imperium subscription and it’s been awesome. Just enough models per month to build and paint. I can’t wait to subscribe for this next group of models! I don’t actually play 40k but am obsessed with the lore and collecting/ painting models and this is perfect for me.
Tempted, but since I already have the Leviathan box, I think it will use my hobby budget on other stuff.
My university tabletop gaming club and I are looking at this as a potential method of building a variety of starter armies for prospective players.
As a relatively new person to the game I was pretty interested initially, i like the idea. However i don't feel I need that many combat patrols, especially for £50 a month plus shipping. I would rather put the same money aside, support my FLGS and buy a couple of the ones that do interest me and put the rest in to developing a chosen army.
9 patrols just seems like way too many, and only focuses on a sub section of 40k play. Not to mention they will only focus a few armies through each quarter, meaning certain combat patrols you wont see till way later in the subscription. I can imagine a scenario where the first quarter ends people have space marine and Tyranid combat patrols and are completely satisfied with those two armies and cancel the subscription realizing 9 armies might be a bit too daunting. What I would have liked to seen would have been maybe 2 subscription options each with 2 armies that go from combat patrol all the way to 2000+ point armies. Then near the end trickle in models from other armies as a precursor to the next 2 subscription options you release hoping to get them to roll right into that subscription.
Would be interesting to know the value you get from just getting the certain magazines you want for say one combat patrol out of the 9. Still could be a affordable way to get a combat patrol for a army you don't have.
Was already planning on 3D printing several Combat Patrol boxes and now I have an excellent motivation and tracker to keep up with😅