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There's your quirky feature . The inlays being slightly off center. Well that and the large stratocaster style headstock. Personally I like it. Is that a neck tilt access on back through the bolt on plate. So Fender has figured out how to silence single coils now they need to figure out the cunifies . I like this one but that buzz would drive me crazy. It does have a Telecaster sound but .
The way the body was made including the wood grain mismatch is a cbs cost of manufacturing savings that was common on originals. For 2100 they should have put on a neck that was drilled right for the inlays that aside help to I.D. It in case of theft
I don’t have a fender telecaster that has CuNiFe pickups, but they sound awesome and one of the guitar UA-camr who has a vintage 1970s telecaster with the pickups. He said the same thing about the wide range hum buckers that has the single coil sound. For me if I ever buy a fender 1970s telecaster or build a parts caster, I would put copper tape on the cavity body before I put the pick ups and the whole pick-gard on imo.
On my American Pro II telecaster the rosewood is cracking on the edges after 6 months… so, the American Fender “factory quality control” needs some IMPORTANT improvement.
If I were working on that Telecaster the first thing I would check is the grounding wire from the pots to the bridge. It has been my experience that you cannot move the pickguard assembly very far from the body due to the short ground wire. The hum/buzz illustrated is very much indicative of a poor ground condition. Just saying, I've caused this condition myself while inspecting a pickguard assembly, the wire pulls loose from the metal contact of the bridge yet remains in the passage hole within the control cavity routes. It appears connected because it has not fully pulled out of the hole/passage, yet in actuality the end has broke free and isn't connected. Like I said, I've had this happen before and the very same buzzing/symptoms presented the same way. I've not made it through the entire video yet, so I'm hoping the amazing story of how the WRHB CuNiFe pickups were designed/developed, the direct connection of these pickups with Gibson is an amazing story.
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Oh thank goodness HK!!! I thought something VERY bad happened when you started that paragraph. I’m so happy your tough guy is home with you even if it’s only for a second longer. And thank you for the comment you posted about the pickups. It does make sense that it could be a grounding wire or something maybe. I don’t know the CuNiFe sound very well though so what do I know really…? Hi Sgt Grinch! I hope you’re doing good also!
@@stop736 Bless Your Heart Cynthia. Yes, every moment is a gift. Oh, those CuNiFe pickups have a fantastic sound. The CuNiFe pickups are of such historical significance that I will someday own a guitar with them, either real vintage or the modern versions.
or catching down, rather.. Saddens me..I love my Fenders and each one is high quality. This one... I might pass on.. unless its a fluke. I would take a hard look and play in store before buying.
Wow they actually got the tuners right. Tele Deluxe reissues usually have the F stamp tuners that came on Strats and regular Teles, when the old ones actually came with the sealed tuners.
Have a '77 reissue with a CuNiFe humbucker. Had that buzz, pulled the humbucker out and rescrewed it down through the 4 springs that came loose when adjusting the height of the humbucker and the buzz went away. When you back those screws out they're short enough it leaves a space where the spring literally buzzes.
Fender’s QC is generally pretty good (at least better than Gibson), but the new American Vintage series seems to have a lot of QC problems. And these aren’t cheap guitars. Pretty hard to justify these prices compared to say the American Pro ii, especially with these 70s models, which have poly finishes. At least these cunife pickups are great.
I enjoyed seeing it. I am excited to see the replacement. Hopefully no ground issue, dot issue, or pocket cracks. Otherwise it sounded like I hoped. Like single coils in a way, but (normally) without single coil hum.
Larger bobbins and covers, but also the original WRHBs have steel reflector plates between the bobbins and the base plate. Kind of like a Tele bridge pup. I want one of these Vintage II Deluxe, but it would cost half as much instead to stick CuNiFe WRHBs into a Vintera Deluxe, as their AlNiCo WRHBs and routs are the proper size.
For an instrument in that price range, you'd think there would be a one piece body or 2 at most. 3 piece body should be Squier tier in my opinion. All in all that guitar shouldn't have left the factory in that condition.
I have a 1974 Tele deluxe which I bought from Gordon and Simpson in Edinburgh Scotland It's similar to the one you have but the bridge pickup is set into the ashtray style bridge with 3 saddles it's a single coil The neck is a large humbucker . The neck itself is a one piece maple Tele neck not the strat styled neck you have 2 Vol 2 tone 3 way switch and jack socket on the side . It has the comfort cutaway on the side . It's a 3 piece body with a 4 hole bolt on neck . I got rid of the ashtray cover and no not where it is . I nearly changed the tuners but watched a video on youtube on how to clean them up and get them working good I have replaced the bridge pickup with a Warman similar pickup .Oh and it's left handed . The guitar sounds great and for 20 years was the only electric I had Still got it still play it but tend to use my 6 string Rickenbacker these days . BTW I'm not a fan of Gibson so I was surprised to see you looking at a Fender the best guitars in the cozmos .... ( Insert stupid laugh )
70's fenders had a poly sealer or base coat and still used a nitro top coat (on the body) the neck was all poly except for the front where the decal is which was still nitro, so this isn't correct for the spec. Also I don't think you ground the bridge when you put it back together.
The poly lacquer finish on the neck ruined this whole new Fender line. Lacquer is sticky and uncomfortable. Ill never understand why people pay more for this "downgrade". If they had gone with a satin or tung-oil neck these guitars would have been a hit.
Yeah - I had the American Vintage II Jazz Bass. It had the same off center fret dots issue. I tried the “variable string spacing” the vintage bridge provides but that just move the whole saddle over. I too checked old photos of the real thing and, nope, the dots are perfectly lined up. I think my bridge was mis-mounted as well. Not something I’d want to keep for $2.5K all told. The pictures on Fender’s website show the same thing. I returned it.
I didn't dig in the comments, but surely by now you know it's just a bridge ground that is not hooked up. If you touch the jack/pots/switch/pickup covers and it gets quieter, but it does not get quieter when you touch the bridge or strings, the bridge is not grounded - no string ground. You can use your meter to check for continuity between the jack and bridge.
, vintage on Fender means you can hear that sound in the background and I didn't like it so I got rid of everything that I own until I got the noiseless pickups and then I fell in love
Few years ago I brought a USA pro Tele. No grounding wire to the bridge and no real attempt at shielding. Last year I got a Strat with exactly the same issues. I still have them but it irks me to have to finish the guitars off for Fender and they had no setup at all. Fender USA has been shipping guitars for years without proper QC but seem to get a free pass compared to Gibson.
None of the 70s telecaster deluxe or customes came with a nitro finish, so they are period correct. I own a 74 deluxe, and have played an American vintage. Fender has done a great job. Especially with the pickups. There my favorite and sound incredible with gain. No matter how much gain you send it through, they stay clear and more "articulate" then any other humbucker on the planet, in my opinion
that bridge is not grounded cause the noise is still there even when holding the strings. Full on copper shielding and grounding that bridge will help this guitar silent...and when i say full copper shielding, *include the pickup cover and open corners of the pickups* . I also shield the bottom of the fixed bridge and solder a wire there connected to the cavity shielding.
See the dots? Way off. I’d be pissed about paying €2000+ and getting wonky dots! Fender QC is not as good as it should be. It’s crazy when a MEX for half the price can be Perfect!
I'm glad they didn't replicate the horrible bodyshape CBS lumbered the Tele with when they got those new routers in - see that misshapen upper bout on that original 75 one at 1:30?!
The bridge definitely is not grounded if it stops buzzing when you touch the pickups but not the strings. I honestly would be livid if I paid $2300 and had all these problems
As much as i dream of owning a Gibson some day, i love to bash em for their draw backs. That being said, as a Fender guy, i have to be fair and honest. That is unacceptable at that price point. I would be ok with all of those issues on a Squire maybe, but thats not even acceptable on a plain American Tele, much less a custom shop level instrument! Send it back!
I almost pulled the trigger on one of these because I was born in 75. Might now wait for a used example I can try personally at a lower price. Or hold out for a beat up great playing 1975 Marauder. LOL
I've watched this video a few times, and when you do the shot of the back of the pickguard (around 5:50) I don't see a ground to the bridge or any other metal part on the body that is attached to the strings, just the common ground out to the jack. I don't see a third wire running to the bridge when you show the control cavity either at 15:09. I'm by no means an expert, but a lack of ground to the bridge plate might be the reason the pickups are buzzing. Again, I'm no expert, so someone feel free to correct me. I'm not seeing a way for the guitar to ground while you're playing: no ground to bridge, so the ground hum is still present while you're playing.
Also: wouldn't the shielding under the pickguard connect all of the pots? Would this not act as a common? If so, would that mean Fender created a ground loop by adding the horseshoe common on top of that?
Great video, as always, and I agree that it's disheartening to see these quality problems on a $2k guitar. I hope someone at Fender sees this video, and that the necessary changes are made at the factory; I also think you gloss over how great this guitar sounds! This particular guitar (and all of the newer CiNiFe reissues) seem to have noise issues but are otherwise sonically remarkable. If Fender can get their act together and iron out the wrinkles, we have a truly special instrument here.
Well maybe they made the goof on fret dot spacing to go along with the fact that 70s models of Fender guitars had many factory flaws,therefore keeping with the tradition. Bravo on that one Fender!😄
the quality control of the 70s was a thousand times better than in this century!; now they do things to get out of trouble and sell, period; first compare the quality control of the 1970s it was great you have to have one of the time to speak and know how to comment responsibly on this and compare it with one from 2020/23 the quality control of now is very bad! I was surprised by this review~ God bless you
The three bolt neck & my way of playing hates each other, tried one & just couldn't get used to it. As far as qc, Fender is probably thinking "It works for Gibby anyways..."
@@gazzy_burns Yeah, I agree. I sometimes wish he had a better understanding of both the mechanics as well as construction methods pertaining to guitars. But I get it, not everyone is mechanical in nature. For myself, I'm fascinated with all things mechanical and have a natural curiosity of how things work and how they are built. But that is just me, all individuals have their strong suites. Kind of in the same way, a successful automobile Salesman or Historian doesn't necessarily know how to fix a car or how its built. And many times they don't need that knowledge to be great at what they do.
It’s sad that fender is having QC issues on such a big release but the reason the headstock is more amber than the fretboard is because in the 70s fender would spray nitro on the headstock and it would yellow overtime
This is far worse than current Gibson USA production guitars. Really disappointed and for 2K I’d rather save up for a used custom shop model. I’d take any nice squire or Mexican over this series. Falls short over the original line which truly felt like a custom shop model within the USA range. I guess sourcing lighter woods and all is now unique to the custom shop
Agreed. The buzzing could certainly be a set up issue from reassembly. The height of the neck pickup too with it catching the high -E string like that.
Absolutely. It makes no sense to take it apart, reassemble it, and then whinge about the factory setup. Play it first to judge the way it came from the factory.
When people review things you can sometimes tell that they have their minds made up already. I mean clearly this thing has issues with the dot inlays but it was funny when he pointed at that huge route that you could fit 50 wires in and called it "a very minimal channel", talked about both too much wood removed and then not enough wood removed, then it's a "shame" that a '75 tribute guitar doesn't have '60s tuning pegs. Then he accidentally broke the ground wire to the bridge by removing the pick guard. We've all done it and the symptoms are unmistakable.
The reason that the face of the headstock being more tinted than the rest of the neck is because even after Fender switched to poly finishes, they continuted to spray headstock faces with nitro, because it had better adhesion properties with the decals used on the headstocks. Nitro naturally yellowed more than the poly, so the headstock faces would always end up being more tinted than the rest of the neck.
I get what you're saying. Technically, he's correct on nitro being sprayed on the headstock for that reason (even when applied on top of the decal instead of under like in the 50s/60s). Fender tinted the necks and headstocks of the new 50s/60s models as well, instead of spraying clear nitro as done originally and on the previous AV guitars, 2012-2017. I think Fender should have sprayed clear nitro and let them age naturally. Btw the lacquer on the new 70s headstock are tinted poly and not nitro like the originals.
100% accurate, my 1978 Strat has a darker yellow headstock face from the rest of the neck. I get it though, it shouldn’t look like that from the factory it would be bright maple brand new.
I clearly remember in 1980 this guitar was called outdated looking, even at five years eras changed more rapidly than now and $400-$450 was high. I saw in the hippie Mother Earth News of all things a woman said she paid $250 for her "tacky sunburst...big ugly square pickups...but _it was_ a Fender ".
I could be wrong but Im pretty sure the headstock is a bit of a different shade because in the 70's they used a nitro finish on the headstock, due to problems with decals
For a $2000 guitar this is an absolute bodge job. The grain not matching at all on one side of the body makes it look like a repair, I've seen better neck inlays on $200 guitars, the routing looked amateur, the finish cracking so early means it'll crumble in several places in months probably. And to top it all off it sounded AWFUL. 😖
15:09 Please, correctly adjust the pickup and pole piece height (lower it). With the pickup that close to the string you are loosing all the dynamics the pickup has to offer. Adjusted correctly that neck pickup should sound more like a strong Stratocaster neck pickup. sigh..................
Yeah, if removing the pickups you should figure out what the factory specs say they should be and set it to that, especially if demonstrating how it was intended to be. Cheers HK!😃
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Man, this the 3rd UA-cam review that I saw were Fender’s new v2 line had qc issues. They have been nothing major and all were easily fixable but at this price point Fender needs to do better. I have also seen posts on social media with some rather bad aesthetic errors that aren't as fixable like Trogly’s dot issue. One Reddit poster received their 75’ deluxe tele with a 70’s Stratocaster neck decal lol. Maybe their rushing orders or it’s all the layoffs catching up to them. Fender has always had a good reputation for their attention to detail and qc especially on their higher tier lines. I want a v2 66’ jazzmaster but I’m waiting until Fender gets their act together.
I don't know, those dots are not easily fixable. That's pretty bad for a not cheap at all guitar. It's too bad really. My pro Strat bought a few years ago was basically perfect QC wise.
Bigmikeyz00 hope you get the 66 JM eventually. That's a fantastic looking guitar! What color would you get? I like the red probably the best and then maybe the traditional sunburst
@@A_Noid yeah my fender pro was perfect right outta the box. The dots and pocket cracks definitely aren't easy fixes. I meant the qc issues were fixable not the bad aestic mistakes. I'll edit my post so its clearer. Even the strat decal on the tele is a bummer but it certainly makes it unique but won't help resale lol. I agree at this price point fender has to do much better. Ryan from 60 cycle hum had a switch issue on a 66' jm. Another reviewer who purchased his 61' v2 strat it came with an awful setup. A british reviewer who helps Keith from five watt world had some minor issues with attention to detail on a v2 57' strat. I saw reviews and posts were there were no issue's but when you see this many on release it usually means their rushing production unfortunately.
@@jonathanhudak2059the sunburst is cool but I'm a sucker for a matching headstock lol. I do prefer the red however I already own several red guitars so I'd probably go with lake placid blue. Both look great though and I typically prefer Fiesta red but the darker shade of Dakota looks excellent on the jazzmaster. I'm actually hoping more colors become available over time. Perhaps stores like cme, music zoo and others will have exclusive colors in time.
I like Telecasters, but I have a long list of gripes with this one. starting with that fugly headstock. then the marker inlay dots being out of wack. and it gets a lot worse with those crappy sounding pickups. even with that grounding issue fixed they still would sound horrid. I don't like single coils even the noiseless ones. because of all that sixty cycle hum especially under florescent lighting. so the main reason I thought I might like this one is because of the humbuckers. but I definitely have to pass on this one.
In 75 these guitars were not refinished in Nitro. These guitars are not meant to be Custom shop specs but are meant to be built according to the factory specs of that year. The purpose of the built is to get as close to the guitar (vintage) year spec without it being the actual vintage guitar.
Congrats Scott. I really hope Trogly tells the story/history of the WRHB CuNiFe pickups. The story is amazing as it demonstrates how Gibson and Fender are connected.
Lots of really sloppy QC issues reported on the AV2 series so far - hopefully they iron them out, along with the pumpkincaster necks. Doubt they will though. The AV2 is basically 2/3rds pre 2012 AVRI spec with some slightly more vintage correct stuff kept from the AV1 with the pure vintage parts etc. The AV1 is still the re-issue to have.
Looks like Fender replicated the same quality control of the CBS erra as well LOL! In all seriousness I'm planning on getting the '57 Strat, then the '61. I love this "new" series Fender is doing I hope it sticks around.
Absolute junk! Fender is taking the piss with these. Go back to 2007 and for $700 you could get a brand-new Baja tele which would eat this for breakfast. It literally looks like it's been made out of off-cuts!!
Copper Nickel Ferrite alloy? CBS Fender hired Seth Lover to design a humbucker so CBS would not have to pay Gibson licensing fees, but in another 6 or 7 years Gibson's patents on the Gibson humbucker all expired. Let's go back to 1952. Gibson hired Seth Lover to design a pickup so Gibson would not have to pay licensing fees to De Armond. The man Les Paul was using De Armond pickups in the neck position of his personal Les Paul guitars.
"Doesn't appear to be a grounding thing"? Its literally doing exactly what a guitar does when it's not grounded lol The reason touching the strings isn't making it go away, but touching the electronics does, is the ground wire should be connected to the bridge, and it's clearly not here
I buy a 52 or 57 or 61 reissue guitar cause an original from those years is to much bucks! and also you get something pretty accurate to those years for a fraction price ,but buying a 70s reissue at 2300 usd.. you are almost there to buy an original vintage for kind of same money...
Definitely doesn’t have a strong ground or something came apart in the string ground. Touching the strings or bridge should stop the buzz just the same as touching the pickups. Lot of money to pay for those qc issues
I could buy a Les Paul standard for this price. It simply amazes me what Fender charges for cheaply made instruments. No binding - 3 screws holding the neck - which was a cost saving measure in the 70’s (I know I lived through it). What junk
Great show again Trogly. Can’t really judge QC from a one off. Fender are however trying to aggressively cut costs with firing and rehiring staff as I understand it.
@@hughjarrse LOL, what makes your comment so fumy is that is that you beat me to it. Just this morning I heard that joke and was going to drop it into tonight's comments! 😁
Shameful my last fender was rubbish and it seems like the still can’t be trusted.. hopefully soon the can get some consistency. People rag on Gibson for poor QC fender has been just as bad for the last few years
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There's your quirky feature . The inlays being slightly off center. Well that and the large stratocaster style headstock. Personally I like it. Is that a neck tilt access on back through the bolt on plate. So Fender has figured out how to silence single coils now they need to figure out the cunifies . I like this one but that buzz would drive me crazy. It does have a Telecaster sound but .
The way the body was made including the wood grain mismatch is a cbs cost of manufacturing savings that was common on originals. For 2100 they should have put on a neck that was drilled right for the inlays that aside help to I.D. It in case of theft
I don’t have a fender telecaster that has CuNiFe pickups, but they sound awesome and one of the guitar UA-camr who has a vintage 1970s telecaster with the pickups. He said the same thing about the wide range hum buckers that has the single coil sound. For me if I ever buy a fender 1970s telecaster or build a parts caster, I would put copper tape on the cavity body before I put the pick ups and the whole pick-gard on imo.
@@jamesjeager129 my American special has the usual pickups and sounds great.
With all the issues this one seems to have, it looks like Fender was staying true to 1970’s build and quality control. 🤦♂️
This is the special "CBS true to life" reissue.
That factory error should not be there on a 2000 usd guitar.
On my American Pro II telecaster the rosewood is cracking on the edges after 6 months… so, the American Fender “factory quality control” needs some IMPORTANT improvement.
@@giuseppefabbricatore4314 I’d be contacting them they’re guitars are supposed to have a lifetime warranty on stuff like that.
No guitar at 2000 or higher shouldn’t have flaws 🤷♂️
@@giuseppefabbricatore4314 did they sort it out for you?
Not on a bolt on.
1:21 trogly zip your zipper.
I hate it when that happens................
If I were working on that Telecaster the first thing I would check is the grounding wire from the pots to the bridge.
It has been my experience that you cannot move the pickguard assembly very far from the body due to the short ground wire.
The hum/buzz illustrated is very much indicative of a poor ground condition.
Just saying, I've caused this condition myself while inspecting a pickguard assembly, the wire pulls loose from the metal contact of the bridge yet remains in the passage hole within the control cavity routes. It appears connected because it has not fully pulled out of the hole/passage, yet in actuality the end has broke free and isn't connected.
Like I said, I've had this happen before and the very same buzzing/symptoms presented the same way.
I've not made it through the entire video yet, so I'm hoping the amazing story of how the WRHB CuNiFe pickups were designed/developed, the direct connection of these pickups with Gibson is an amazing story.
Good evening HK.
@@sgt.grinch3299 Greetings Sarge.......Stressful afternoon, we had to take our most senior Pug to the Veterinary Clinic, for a while we thought it was going to be his very last car ride with us. Thankfully he is a lot tougher than he would appear to be and was abloe to come home with us. Age, it will eventually catch all of us. 🙏
Oh thank goodness HK!!! I thought something VERY bad happened when you started that paragraph. I’m so happy your tough guy is home with you even if it’s only for a second longer.
And thank you for the comment you posted about the pickups. It does make sense that it could be a grounding wire or something maybe. I don’t know the CuNiFe sound very well though so what do I know really…?
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@@stop736 Bless Your Heart Cynthia. Yes, every moment is a gift. Oh, those CuNiFe pickups have a fantastic sound.
The CuNiFe pickups are of such historical significance that I will someday own a guitar with them, either real vintage or the modern versions.
Fender catching up to Gibson on the quality side
or catching down, rather..
Saddens me..I love my Fenders and each one is high quality. This one... I might pass on.. unless its a fluke. I would take a hard look and play in store before buying.
yeah, at over 2 grand they really need to be able to get the dots centered between frets. thats just pure lazy quality control.
@@leftyo9589 AND the pickups. And the crack near the neck.
Any way, I'd take that one for less than 900
@@fernandoreynaaguilar1438 These fantastic pickups can be bought separately. That would be an option.
A true race to the bottom. Why I prefer Ibanez knockoffs of their designs.
Wow they actually got the tuners right. Tele Deluxe reissues usually have the F stamp tuners that came on Strats and regular Teles, when the old ones actually came with the sealed tuners.
Have a '77 reissue with a CuNiFe humbucker. Had that buzz, pulled the humbucker out and rescrewed it down through the 4 springs that came loose when adjusting the height of the humbucker and the buzz went away. When you back those screws out they're short enough it leaves a space where the spring literally buzzes.
Fender’s QC is generally pretty good (at least better than Gibson), but the new American Vintage series seems to have a lot of QC problems. And these aren’t cheap guitars.
Pretty hard to justify these prices compared to say the American Pro ii, especially with these 70s models, which have poly finishes. At least these cunife pickups are great.
What's qa?
@@216trixie quality assurance.
@@leftyo9589 Aha. It sure is. But that is not what he had up there before. The comment said "Fender's QA". Now I see it reads QC. Lol.
@@216trixie Used QA, changed it to QC since evidently QA seems less used than QC ;) I see QA as encompassing QC, but maybe I'm wrong.
@@A_Noid
I think QC is more commonly used in the general public. However, in manufacturing I’m reasonably sure the term QA is more prevalent.
Nice,Fenders QC is almost as abysmal as Gibsons now
I enjoyed seeing it. I am excited to see the replacement. Hopefully no ground issue, dot issue, or pocket cracks. Otherwise it sounded like I hoped. Like single coils in a way, but (normally) without single coil hum.
Welcome back everyone! Great start to the weekend
Ditto that Adrian
Larger bobbins and covers, but also the original WRHBs have steel reflector plates between the bobbins and the base plate. Kind of like a Tele bridge pup. I want one of these Vintage II Deluxe, but it would cost half as much instead to stick CuNiFe WRHBs into a Vintera Deluxe, as their AlNiCo WRHBs and routs are the proper size.
For an instrument in that price range, you'd think there would be a one piece body or 2 at most. 3 piece body should be Squier tier in my opinion. All in all that guitar shouldn't have left the factory in that condition.
I have a 1974 Tele deluxe which I bought from Gordon and Simpson in Edinburgh Scotland It's similar to the one you have but the bridge pickup is set into the ashtray style bridge with 3 saddles it's a single coil The neck is a large humbucker . The neck itself is a one piece maple Tele neck not the strat styled neck you have 2 Vol 2 tone 3 way switch and jack socket on the side . It has the comfort cutaway on the side . It's a 3 piece body with a 4 hole bolt on neck . I got rid of the ashtray cover and no not where it is . I nearly changed the tuners but watched a video on youtube on how to clean them up and get them working good I have replaced the bridge pickup with a Warman similar pickup .Oh and it's left handed . The guitar sounds great and for 20 years was the only electric I had Still got it still play it but tend to use my 6 string Rickenbacker these days . BTW I'm not a fan of Gibson so I was surprised to see you looking at a Fender the best guitars in the cozmos .... ( Insert stupid laugh )
70's fenders had a poly sealer or base coat and still used a nitro top coat (on the body) the neck was all poly except for the front where the decal is which was still nitro, so this isn't correct for the spec. Also I don't think you ground the bridge when you put it back together.
The poly lacquer finish on the neck ruined this whole new Fender line. Lacquer is sticky and uncomfortable. Ill never understand why people pay more for this "downgrade". If they had gone with a satin or tung-oil neck these guitars would have been a hit.
THAT! in BLACK would be my dream guitar.
Yeah - I had the American Vintage II Jazz Bass. It had the same off center fret dots issue. I tried the “variable string spacing” the vintage bridge provides but that just move the whole saddle over. I too checked old photos of the real thing and, nope, the dots are perfectly lined up. I think my bridge was mis-mounted as well. Not something I’d want to keep for $2.5K all told. The pictures on Fender’s website show the same thing. I returned it.
did you try playing it before you pulled off the pickguard? and why not fix it after noticing it?
I didn't dig in the comments, but surely by now you know it's just a bridge ground that is not hooked up. If you touch the jack/pots/switch/pickup covers and it gets quieter, but it does not get quieter when you touch the bridge or strings, the bridge is not grounded - no string ground. You can use your meter to check for continuity between the jack and bridge.
, vintage on Fender means you can hear that sound in the background and I didn't like it so I got rid of everything that I own until I got the noiseless pickups and then I fell in love
I think the output jack is wired incorrectly.. Hot is wired to ground and ground is wired to hot and that may be the cause of the hum.
Few years ago I brought a USA pro Tele. No grounding wire to the bridge and no real attempt at shielding. Last year I got a Strat with exactly the same issues. I still have them but it irks me to have to finish the guitars off for Fender and they had no setup at all.
Fender USA has been shipping guitars for years without proper QC but seem to get a free pass compared to Gibson.
None of the 70s telecaster deluxe or customes came with a nitro finish, so they are period correct. I own a 74 deluxe, and have played an American vintage. Fender has done a great job. Especially with the pickups. There my favorite and sound incredible with gain. No matter how much gain you send it through, they stay clear and more "articulate" then any other humbucker on the planet, in my opinion
that bridge is not grounded cause the noise is still there even when holding the strings. Full on copper shielding and grounding that bridge will help this guitar silent...and when i say full copper shielding, *include the pickup cover and open corners of the pickups* . I also shield the bottom of the fixed bridge and solder a wire there connected to the cavity shielding.
See the dots? Way off. I’d be pissed about paying €2000+ and getting wonky dots!
Fender QC is not as good as it should be. It’s crazy when a MEX for half the price can be Perfect!
I'd love one of those, but those faults should have picked up on inspection? I'd like one of the 51 Teles, and 62 Strat.
What was the buzzing noise that sounded terrible.
I'm glad they didn't replicate the horrible bodyshape CBS lumbered the Tele with when they got those new routers in - see that misshapen upper bout on that original 75 one at 1:30?!
The bridge definitely is not grounded if it stops buzzing when you touch the pickups but not the strings. I honestly would be livid if I paid $2300 and had all these problems
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As much as i dream of owning a Gibson some day, i love to bash em for their draw backs. That being said, as a Fender guy, i have to be fair and honest. That is unacceptable at that price point. I would be ok with all of those issues on a Squire maybe, but thats not even acceptable on a plain American Tele, much less a custom shop level instrument! Send it back!
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I returned my tele deluxe in 2 days. It just felt awful, neck and bridge were severely misaligned.
I almost pulled the trigger on one of these because I was born in 75. Might now wait for a used example I can try personally at a lower price. Or hold out for a beat up great playing 1975 Marauder. LOL
The headstock is a different color due to nitro finish on the headstock ONLY. had something to do with the lable, but can remember why
I've watched this video a few times, and when you do the shot of the back of the pickguard (around 5:50) I don't see a ground to the bridge or any other metal part on the body that is attached to the strings, just the common ground out to the jack. I don't see a third wire running to the bridge when you show the control cavity either at 15:09. I'm by no means an expert, but a lack of ground to the bridge plate might be the reason the pickups are buzzing.
Again, I'm no expert, so someone feel free to correct me. I'm not seeing a way for the guitar to ground while you're playing: no ground to bridge, so the ground hum is still present while you're playing.
Also: wouldn't the shielding under the pickguard connect all of the pots? Would this not act as a common? If so, would that mean Fender created a ground loop by adding the horseshoe common on top of that?
I read somewhere that for wide range pickups, you should use 1M pots...should be nice to know what they installed in this tele
Great video, as always, and I agree that it's disheartening to see these quality problems on a $2k guitar. I hope someone at Fender sees this video, and that the necessary changes are made at the factory; I also think you gloss over how great this guitar sounds! This particular guitar (and all of the newer CiNiFe reissues) seem to have noise issues but are otherwise sonically remarkable. If Fender can get their act together and iron out the wrinkles, we have a truly special instrument here.
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You always sound great on a tele!
Well maybe they made the goof on fret dot spacing to go along with the fact that 70s models of Fender guitars had many factory flaws,therefore keeping with the tradition. Bravo on that one Fender!😄
To me unless it's those 50s or 60s fenders if you payed over 1000 bucks for a fender they saw you coming
After watching Phil McKnight video, might want to hold off on buying new Fender stuff. QC looks to be bad right now.
I'm really hoping that plaque or sticker under the bridge pickup is removable.
the quality control of the 70s was a thousand times better than in this century!; now they do things to get out of trouble and sell, period; first compare the quality control of the 1970s it was great you have to have one of the time to speak and know how to comment responsibly on this and compare it with one from 2020/23 the quality control of now is very bad! I was surprised by this review~ God bless you
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Very cool guitar, but that one needs to go back.
The three bolt neck & my way of playing hates each other, tried one & just couldn't get used to it. As far as qc, Fender is probably thinking "It works for Gibby anyways..."
I'd send it back!
Not just guitars either. Their amps are coming all jacked up. Check out Phil's latest KYG Podcast.
3 piece body for premium USA price? I would hope 3 piece bodies would be designated for their cheap guitars.
Fender started doing poly finishes in the early seventies. So this is authentic with the poly finish.
Correct, the poly finish is very much authentic.
It’s authentic, bur desirable? I preferred the American Original approach of still having a nitro coat on 70s models.
Yep. He should know this.
@@gazzy_burns Yeah, I agree. I sometimes wish he had a better understanding of both the mechanics as well as construction methods pertaining to guitars. But I get it, not everyone is mechanical in nature.
For myself, I'm fascinated with all things mechanical and have a natural curiosity of how things work and how they are built.
But that is just me, all individuals have their strong suites. Kind of in the same way, a successful automobile Salesman or Historian doesn't necessarily know how to fix a car or how its built. And many times they don't need that knowledge to be great at what they do.
@@A_Noid people that _want_ a nitro finish on anything will never cease to boggle my mind
It’s sad that fender is having QC issues on such a big release but the reason the headstock is more amber than the fretboard is because in the 70s fender would spray nitro on the headstock and it would yellow overtime
I mean, if you did get a lemon at the very least, it would be authentic to 60s and 70s qc
Joke... Buy a MiM and upgrade.
This is far worse than current Gibson USA production guitars. Really disappointed and for 2K I’d rather save up for a used custom shop model. I’d take any nice squire or Mexican over this series. Falls short over the original line which truly felt like a custom shop model within the USA range. I guess sourcing lighter woods and all is now unique to the custom shop
Seems like the Trogster should play these things before ripping them apart, to rule out re-assembly errors if problems are encountered.
Agreed. The buzzing could certainly be a set up issue from reassembly. The height of the neck pickup too with it catching the high -E string like that.
Absolutely. It makes no sense to take it apart, reassemble it, and then whinge about the factory setup. Play it first to judge the way it came from the factory.
@@rexrathtar3893 Yeah, but, he's never had this problem before. Good advise, though.
When people review things you can sometimes tell that they have their minds made up already. I mean clearly this thing has issues with the dot inlays but it was funny when he pointed at that huge route that you could fit 50 wires in and called it "a very minimal channel", talked about both too much wood removed and then not enough wood removed, then it's a "shame" that a '75 tribute guitar doesn't have '60s tuning pegs. Then he accidentally broke the ground wire to the bridge by removing the pick guard. We've all done it and the symptoms are unmistakable.
The reason that the face of the headstock being more tinted than the rest of the neck is because even after Fender switched to poly finishes, they continuted to spray headstock faces with nitro, because it had better adhesion properties with the decals used on the headstocks. Nitro naturally yellowed more than the poly, so the headstock faces would always end up being more tinted than the rest of the neck.
I get what you're saying. Technically, he's correct on nitro being sprayed on the headstock for that reason (even when applied on top of the decal instead of under like in the 50s/60s). Fender tinted the necks and headstocks of the new 50s/60s models as well, instead of spraying clear nitro as done originally and on the previous AV guitars, 2012-2017. I think Fender should have sprayed clear nitro and let them age naturally. Btw the lacquer on the new 70s headstock are tinted poly and not nitro like the originals.
100% accurate, my 1978 Strat has a darker yellow headstock face from the rest of the neck. I get it though, it shouldn’t look like that from the factory it would be bright maple brand new.
I think Fender stopped the nitro finish at the end of the sixties; so the poly finish is true to the era.
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You beat me to it. I think it was 1974 for all models and parts such as the necks.
I clearly remember in 1980 this guitar was called outdated looking, even at five years eras changed more rapidly than now and $400-$450 was high. I saw in the hippie Mother Earth News of all things a woman said she paid $250 for her "tacky sunburst...big ugly square pickups...but _it was_ a Fender ".
@@jusztinnemeti6380 everything was completely poly by 74 I have a 73 strat with only the face have nitro and everything else is poly
I could be wrong but Im pretty sure the headstock is a bit of a different shade because in the 70's they used a nitro finish on the headstock, due to problems with decals
For a $2000 guitar this is an absolute bodge job. The grain not matching at all on one side of the body makes it look like a repair, I've seen better neck inlays on $200 guitars, the routing looked amateur, the finish cracking so early means it'll crumble in several places in months probably. And to top it all off it sounded AWFUL. 😖
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15:09 Please, correctly adjust the pickup and pole piece height (lower it). With the pickup that close to the string you are loosing all the dynamics the pickup has to offer.
Adjusted correctly that neck pickup should sound more like a strong Stratocaster neck pickup.
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Since we're handing out titles, I think this one ought to be christened 'Sir Hums a Lot!'
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Sounds like a time when I soldered the leads on an output jack backwards. This one is a QC nightmare all around 🤣
Dude gibson does the worst guitars for the price right now and honestly my fender mexican tele is the most versatile guitar in could ever imagine
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Wow those fret markers is unbelievable! For a 2,300$ guitar it better be perfect.
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The CuNiFe pickups didn’t “return” in this series. They returned already a couple of years ago in the Tele Custom in the American Original Series.
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@@bulletv1 indeed. I bought a set for a Fender Japan Tele Deluxe I bought a couple of years ago.
Glad you added that! I was going to say the same thing
It would be cool if the dot inlays gradually disappear under the frets.
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I like the gradually sinking (or rising) dot inlay- sorta like the Sun setting below the horizon.
Man, this the 3rd UA-cam review that I saw were Fender’s new v2 line had qc issues. They have been nothing major and all were easily fixable but at this price point Fender needs to do better. I have also seen posts on social media with some rather bad aesthetic errors that aren't as fixable like Trogly’s dot issue. One Reddit poster received their 75’ deluxe tele with a 70’s Stratocaster neck decal lol. Maybe their rushing orders or it’s all the layoffs catching up to them. Fender has always had a good reputation for their attention to detail and qc especially on their higher tier lines. I want a v2 66’ jazzmaster but I’m waiting until Fender gets their act together.
I don't know, those dots are not easily fixable. That's pretty bad for a not cheap at all guitar. It's too bad really. My pro Strat bought a few years ago was basically perfect QC wise.
Bigmikeyz00 hope you get the 66 JM eventually. That's a fantastic looking guitar! What color would you get? I like the red probably the best and then maybe the traditional sunburst
@@A_Noid yeah my fender pro was perfect right outta the box. The dots and pocket cracks definitely aren't easy fixes. I meant the qc issues were fixable not the bad aestic mistakes. I'll edit my post so its clearer. Even the strat decal on the tele is a bummer but it certainly makes it unique but won't help resale lol. I agree at this price point fender has to do much better. Ryan from 60 cycle hum had a switch issue on a 66' jm. Another reviewer who purchased his 61' v2 strat it came with an awful setup. A british reviewer who helps Keith from five watt world had some minor issues with attention to detail on a v2 57' strat. I saw reviews and posts were there were no issue's but when you see this many on release it usually means their rushing production unfortunately.
@@jonathanhudak2059the sunburst is cool but I'm a sucker for a matching headstock lol. I do prefer the red however I already own several red guitars so I'd probably go with lake placid blue. Both look great though and I typically prefer Fiesta red but the darker shade of Dakota looks excellent on the jazzmaster. I'm actually hoping more colors become available over time. Perhaps stores like cme, music zoo and others will have exclusive colors in time.
I like Telecasters, but I have a long list of gripes with this one. starting with that fugly headstock. then the marker inlay dots being out of wack. and it gets a lot worse with those crappy sounding pickups. even with that grounding issue fixed they still would sound horrid. I don't like single coils even the noiseless ones. because of all that sixty cycle hum especially under florescent lighting. so the main reason I thought I might like this one is because of the humbuckers. but I definitely have to pass on this one.
you probably pulled out the ground wen you flipped over the pick guard
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Watching this with my 9yo and he pointed out a zipper issue at 2:09 .
In 75 these guitars were not refinished in Nitro. These guitars are not meant to be Custom shop specs but are meant to be built according to the factory specs of that year.
The purpose of the built is to get as close to the guitar (vintage) year spec without it being the actual vintage guitar.
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I really hope Trogly tells the story/history of the WRHB CuNiFe pickups.
The story is amazing as it demonstrates how Gibson and Fender are connected.
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Wake up and get your face out of your plate people!
Lots of really sloppy QC issues reported on the AV2 series so far - hopefully they iron them out, along with the pumpkincaster necks. Doubt they will though. The AV2 is basically 2/3rds pre 2012 AVRI spec with some slightly more vintage correct stuff kept from the AV1 with the pure vintage parts etc. The AV1 is still the re-issue to have.
Looks like Fender replicated the same quality control of the CBS erra as well LOL! In all seriousness I'm planning on getting the '57 Strat, then the '61. I love this "new" series Fender is doing I hope it sticks around.
Absolute junk! Fender is taking the piss with these. Go back to 2007 and for $700 you could get a brand-new Baja tele which would eat this for breakfast. It literally looks like it's been made out of off-cuts!!
Copper Nickel Ferrite alloy? CBS Fender hired Seth Lover to design a humbucker so CBS would not have to pay Gibson licensing fees, but in another 6 or 7 years Gibson's patents on the Gibson humbucker all expired. Let's go back to 1952. Gibson hired Seth Lover to design a pickup so Gibson would not have to pay licensing fees to De Armond. The man Les Paul was using De Armond pickups in the neck position of his personal Les Paul guitars.
"Doesn't appear to be a grounding thing"? Its literally doing exactly what a guitar does when it's not grounded lol
The reason touching the strings isn't making it go away, but touching the electronics does, is the ground wire should be connected to the bridge, and it's clearly not here
I buy a 52 or 57 or 61 reissue guitar cause an original from those years is to much bucks! and also you get something pretty accurate to those years for a fraction price ,but buying a 70s reissue at 2300 usd.. you are almost there to buy an original vintage for kind of same money...
Definitely doesn’t have a strong ground or something came apart in the string ground. Touching the strings or bridge should stop the buzz just the same as touching the pickups. Lot of money to pay for those qc issues
Considering the issues, I'd rather buy a mexican Vintera for half price, and maybe no defaults...
Humm 2k plus Fender seems like a dud and everybody is always complaining about Gibsons ???
Man fender really screwed up this particular guitar. The hum is really noticeable and those inlays would bother me so much.
I could buy a Les Paul standard for this price. It simply amazes me what Fender charges for cheaply made instruments. No binding - 3 screws holding the neck - which was a cost saving measure in the 70’s (I know I lived through it). What junk
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Gibson isn't perfect either
If you want perfect you buy Japanese.
@@jr2904 it’s not perfect that I’m referring to are the materials and labor. It’s a bolt on guitar made of cheap materials.
I think this series is really overpriced, even without the shoddy build quality of this telecaster.
Very disappointing Austin at that price point.
Great show again Trogly. Can’t really judge QC from a one off. Fender are however trying to aggressively cut costs with firing and rehiring staff as I understand it.
Come Gibson Haters!!! Let Fender have it too! That's a HUGE mistake!!
For $2000 I’d expect at least a two piece center seem body with at least some decent grain matching.
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Ahh, the All too common " HUMCaster".... SMH
Made in American quality! What a joke...
It’s not nitro because they weren’t using nitro! Jees man. Cmon.
Shameful my last fender was rubbish and it seems like the still can’t be trusted.. hopefully soon the can get some consistency. People rag on Gibson for poor QC fender has been just as bad for the last few years
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Z is for retired. Chloe doesn’t like the nonstop buzzing. She left the room.
LOL, I believe the buzzing may have been caused by operator error.
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Tom Cochrane played this exact model on the Life is a Highway video in 1991
Its called a bolt on neck. The screws are not called bolts.
If that’s a “deluxe” I’d be very worried about the standard range!