Long story,,,haven’t ridden in over 50yrs, I’m 73 now and I acquired a 25 yr old 17 hand Percheron 1650lbs (X calèche horse) I have not been doing very much other then feeding, brushing and turning him out to pasture during the summer mths. He prefers staying outside during the winterr but has access to the barns shelter. Oh yeah he has Wobblers , and has a difficult time getting up, but a lot better now that he is in my care. I am going to ride him and he is rideable But I am scarred just to be so high up..the saddle I will be buying is a Kent & Masters all purpose saddle.. I do intend on just walking maybe a trot if I feel brave. I do enjoy your videos, hope I can pull it off without breaking any bones. I retired 3 yrs ago and moved closer to my horse so I have a daily routine with him and his buddies..
Never commented on a video, done a restaurant or hotel review in my entire life, but felt like I had to comment your video's. Absolutely love the common sense approach and dry sense of humor.
A number of yrs ago...I heard a gentleman say, “that man is a class act”, over the road of life I’ve come to understand his statement...and here is a fine example. Pat (and Deb), please excuse my use of informalities in using your first names without really knowing you folks, but you are a class act. These horses understand they are in the presence of greatness, us humans take longer.
I guess im asking the wrong place but does anybody know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account..? I somehow forgot the password. I would appreciate any tricks you can offer me
@Jaiden Musa i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm trying it out atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Thank you for the great explanation of the bend and correct way of sending. You explain things because you want us to know and don’t talk down to folks.
Hello Pat and thank you for this video. It`s the first one that I have come across that shows how to work thru with an unco-operative horse. I am 82 yrs of age and still riding green horses. I have been a breeder of Arabian horses for 35 yrs. I don`t ever seem to stop working on and trying to improve my training techniqus with these horses. As an older trainer, you have given me a whole different background as where many of these ideas came from. Again, thank you and your wife for all of the hours that you give to helping all of us that are not as far along with our horses that we would like to be. You make us better for what we attenpt to do. Bud Gilbert Skyhaven Arabians
There are many of us amateurs who need the perhaps remedial training of the human. Thus the groundwork involving a stick and string have allowed me to learn enough to understand the concept of your video. All the groundwork using stick and string that I have seen goal is progress beyond using stick ultimately to liberty. And no I don’t sell anybody’s products. I still like your videos.
I love this channel because sometimes all you need is someone telling you exactly how it should be. No bells, no whistles just the plain facts! Thank you guys. I look forward to watching everyday.
I had to rewind.... couldn't hear a thing you said while I was laughing & snorting so hard at "this high grade....broom stick. They're $19.95 in case your wondering.... " throws stick out of corral. "String comes in 3 colors". Good grief that was hilarious. I have this problem with my mare because someone overused a whip on her back heels from the ground and the saddle. Her nose & front quarters are constantly in my space and she whips her hindquarters around like she just got stuck with cattle prod set on kill mode. She's been greeted with the flat of my hand numerous times. Will get to work with her on skills taught in this video. She's got to get past this whip mental block. 2 weeks ago she blew sky high when she thought I touched her rump with a whip when she felt a rope touch her. So thankful I wasn't in the saddle. This same person who used the whip also used a spade bit when I told him 'don't put a bit in her mouth'. You guessed it. He was on the ground in .01 seconds.
What's not to like when a man teaches his student with honest love. Then he uses gentle coaxing so the horse know's that he can trust this human. A BEATING IS A BEATING. But love and patients will always win out and you will always end up with a better partner. Pat you are a very SAVVY gentleman. That is why you and your partner Deb are together so long. I like both of you people. I know you are easy to converse with. Take care i watch your videos cause i love the horse as well.
Thanks so much for this video. I have a new horse( his name is Larry also) who I have tried to get away from the flag. Every time I have a lesson, they want me to use the flag because " he's lazy"'. I don't think he is, I agree with what you said about the flag making him move his hindquarters away. I have tried pointing the flag to his belly, so he would shape around it. I can see what I have to do now. I want him to move on a feel, but he doesn't pay attention. I see him so differently than everyone else who has known him, and his previous owner, who had him since birth until age 13. I've had him for 2 years and I feel like he started out good, but we are not connecting. I am used to using very little pressure, and he will ignore me. Everyone says I need to be harder, firmer on him. I have never done that, I'm 64, and I"m not going to start now. Well, he is getting used to light cues, but it's really taking time. My last horse was green broke and I worked with him doing a lot of groundwork, what I would call properly. And he would do anything on just a feel. I know my new horse knows this stuff, so this video has really encouraged me. (I didn't mean to write a book. lol)
Another great video! Thanks Pat & Deb! Love all the high tech tools. Theres no reason to buy a $40 carrot stick if you can make one with stuff you already have. Laura
I see Y'al are getting this UA-cam thing now with the High-end quality horse products. Even offering choice of string and WM flag colors to fit ones equestrian needs or attire. UA-camrs know it's all about the Merch! 😂 I'm really enjoying these vids on some of the subtleties that set foundations. And thank you, thank you for addressing when a training tool stops being one. Some folks are more into their tools than the goals they are trying to accomplish. Not every horse will need that tool or react the same way to it. The Horse has to set the pace. But, you have to be able to See and Feel where they are to make the adjustments. Blessings to you both.
Thanks AGAIN for a great lesson for us horse trainers. I love ur simple easy to understand ways & reasons. Thanks for ur time & effort & to others involved in putting together making the videos!!!!!
Another gem! Thank you so much for this one! Can’t say enough about your narrative info.. love it! I especially like, and need to work on , the changing direction! Many thanks! You bet I like ya!!
Bovine terrorists! Lol. You crack me up, Pat! You remind me of the old timey guys that I was taught by. Not old. Old timey. It's a good thing. 💕 Love watching your videos. I work on a fairly big outfit in Montana, & still learn something new every day. Many compliments to you both for the knowledge you're sharing.
I always like you, Solid information. I'm not sure why everyone don't hit the like button. Bangle Billygoats I suppose. Thank you for your time y'all. South Central Texas Travis Beckham
Thank you from Ardmore, Alabama. I've only recently discovered your channel and since then, I've taken many of your lessons into my training pen with me. As well, if I catch myself looking at the back of my horses head, I think about your story of their head hitting the ground like a watermellon. Fortunately, that hasn't happened ... YET. :) Again, much appreciated!
We’re happy your horse’s head hasn’t hit the ground. That sound is something you would definitely notice. Pat will be driving through your country in October or November. Stay tuned for details at some future date...
Deb& Pat just for your info. you see who subscribed and who likes but I believe there are far more people watching than you know . I have spoken to lots of people that say oh ya l Javed watched him but never sub. share or like . What l am saying is you are more popular than the computer is telling you. So keep up with the videos . Like watching not riding rite now recuperating but will be at it again . My colt arrives in about 5 days . I would love to sit and talk horse but that is not likely to happen now .
I don't have a combo tool, I need to put a hook at the end of my flag... We trailer loaded a "bovine terrorist" recently and fished the rope off(essential tool on the back of every flat bed) Great explanation of how a horse needs to be bent at the ribs...
Larry is shod. Most people who send horses to us unshod. It’s easier to rope them that way. Then Pat puts shoes on them right away because of the rocks and decomposed granite we have here.
Deb can you ask Pat to show us up close how he tied that rope to the halter. I just lost my trusty rope so I have another that does not have a snap but the way Pate has it would work. thanks
This is exactly what my 9 yo gelding does. After first viewing of this video I tried your method and got very frustrated at his lack of willingness to just go forward. Watching this video again, to learn how better to teach him the 'feel'. My horse DOES NOT go forward in a round pen. I now realize I used a weapon, not a tool. YIKES. I've tried the 'here it comes' (ask, ask again, here it comes!) with a lunge whip with extremely little positive results. He just moves his hindquarters away and becomes defiant. He will move better swinging a rope, though. He is a good horse under saddle; knows leg cues and all. But I need to go back to 'rebuild that connection'. Questions: 1. What do you mean by "all the humans time is spent on the left" and why does that make him hesitant on that side? 2. Do you think physical stature has any bearing on the horse? I'm 5'4, you are 6'4 and can look him in the eye when his head goes up. Thanks, Larry.
if you stand behind "drive line" ???? in my enxpirienc I saw the problem but my knowledge its "poor" and I always stay behinde shoulders ? . On begining I give pressure on the neck but always begin with lite pressure ? (sry for for my bad eng. I hope u undrstend)
We’ve never seen a bosal in Spain. They use a serreta which is a bent piece of metal that sits on the nose with rings on each side. Similar to a side pull but a bit more severe. The bosal was an invention that came up from Mexico but nobody seems to know for sure.
@@PatnDebPuckett thanks Deb. That's why I put the question mark. The Mexican calberros probebly used the materials they had ( horse hair) to fashion something similar to what had been used in Spain...great invention!
My retired horse has the brand of the goat, but his is because when he gets up off the ground he goes butt high first with his front end on his knees, then stands on one front hoof and then the other. But he surely has a brand of the goat.
Yes. This cowboy and cowgirl have posted for many many many miles. Sitting flat on your horse’s back if you’re going all day is not fair to your horse.
Larry was "pushing" him. It had to be corrected instantly. "pushing" is an attempt to get the human to move HIS feet. It's a bully tactic by the horse to establish dominance. If you let the horse get away with it, he then starts to become dangerous, and more severe correction is necessary. Larry was not "hurt" by that correction, in fact he was helped one more step away from the "meat-wagon".
Long story,,,haven’t ridden in over 50yrs, I’m 73 now and I acquired a 25 yr old 17 hand Percheron 1650lbs (X calèche horse) I have not been doing very much other then feeding, brushing and turning him out to pasture during the summer mths. He prefers staying outside during the winterr but has access to the barns shelter. Oh yeah he has Wobblers , and has a difficult time getting up, but a lot better now that he is in my care. I am going to ride him and he is rideable But I am scarred just to be so high up..the saddle I will be buying is a Kent & Masters all purpose saddle.. I do intend on just walking maybe a trot if I feel brave. I do enjoy your videos, hope I can pull it off without breaking any bones. I retired 3 yrs ago and moved closer to my horse so I have a daily routine with him and his buddies..
Good luck on your journey!
Never commented on a video, done a restaurant or hotel review in my entire life, but felt like I had to comment your video's. Absolutely love the common sense approach and dry sense of humor.
Look for the feel. I do not ever get tired of listening to your lessons. Thank You.
A number of yrs ago...I heard a gentleman say, “that man is a class act”, over the road of life I’ve come to understand his statement...and here is a fine example. Pat (and Deb), please excuse my use of informalities in using your first names without really knowing you folks, but you are a class act.
These horses understand they are in the presence of greatness, us humans take longer.
I guess im asking the wrong place but does anybody know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account..?
I somehow forgot the password. I would appreciate any tricks you can offer me
@Aidan Junior Instablaster :)
@Jaiden Musa i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm trying it out atm.
Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Jaiden Musa it worked and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my account :D
@Aidan Junior No problem :)
Thank you for the great explanation of the bend and correct way of sending. You explain things because you want us to know and don’t talk down to folks.
That is true. We want you to know everything we know. No holding back.
Thanks for the breakdown of fitting bosal to each horse.
I'm in love with Larry. He's a looker and cool.
Hello Pat and thank you for this video. It`s the first one that I have come across that shows how to work thru with an unco-operative horse. I am 82 yrs of age and still riding green horses. I have been a breeder of Arabian horses for 35 yrs. I don`t ever seem to stop working on and trying to improve my training techniqus with these horses. As an older trainer, you have given me a whole different background as where many of these ideas came from. Again, thank you and your wife for all of the hours that you give to helping all of us that are not as far along with our horses that we would like to be. You make us better for what we attenpt to do.
Bud Gilbert
Skyhaven Arabians
I love the subtle humor.
Wealth of knowledge on this channel. Very grateful to stumble across it.
PAT,LOVE WHEN YOU SPEAK SPANISH, THE SOUND OF YOU VOICE AND YOUR ATTITUDE ,ADIOS VAQUERO AMIGO!!! GREETINGS FROM JALISCO,MEX.
Another great video Thanks from North Texas!
Best broom stick and string seller I've ever seen 😂
Awesome work
I adore him! And I love his videos! Informative and funny at the same time! Thank you Pat an Deb!
There are many of us amateurs who need the perhaps remedial training of the human. Thus the groundwork involving a stick and string have allowed me to learn enough to understand the concept of your video. All the groundwork using stick and string that I have seen goal is progress beyond using stick ultimately to liberty. And no I don’t sell anybody’s products. I still like your videos.
I love this channel because sometimes all you need is someone telling you exactly how it should be. No bells, no whistles just the plain facts! Thank you guys. I look forward to watching everyday.
I had to rewind.... couldn't hear a thing you said while I was laughing & snorting so hard at "this high grade....broom stick. They're $19.95 in case your wondering.... " throws stick out of corral. "String comes in 3 colors". Good grief that was hilarious. I have this problem with my mare because someone overused a whip on her back heels from the ground and the saddle. Her nose & front quarters are constantly in my space and she whips her hindquarters around like she just got stuck with cattle prod set on kill mode. She's been greeted with the flat of my hand numerous times. Will get to work with her on skills taught in this video. She's got to get past this whip mental block. 2 weeks ago she blew sky high when she thought I touched her rump with a whip when she felt a rope touch her. So thankful I wasn't in the saddle. This same person who used the whip also used a spade bit when I told him 'don't put a bit in her mouth'. You guessed it. He was on the ground in .01 seconds.
What's not to like when a man teaches his student with honest love. Then he uses gentle coaxing so the horse know's that he can trust this human. A BEATING IS A BEATING. But love and patients will always win out and you will always end up with a better partner. Pat you are a very SAVVY gentleman. That is why you and your partner Deb are together so long. I like both of you people. I know you are easy to converse with. Take care i watch your videos cause i love the horse as well.
Love watching this channel. Such good horsemanship, humour and good information. Thank you 💖
Thanks so much for this video. I have a new horse( his name is Larry also) who I have tried to get away from the flag. Every time I have a lesson, they want me to use the flag because " he's lazy"'. I don't think he is, I agree with what you said about the flag making him move his hindquarters away. I have tried pointing the flag to his belly, so he would shape around it. I can see what I have to do now. I want him to move on a feel, but he doesn't pay attention. I see him so differently than everyone else who has known him, and his previous owner, who had him since birth until age 13. I've had him for 2 years and I feel like he started out good, but we are not connecting. I am used to using very little pressure, and he will ignore me. Everyone says I need to be harder, firmer on him. I have never done that, I'm 64, and I"m not going to start now. Well, he is getting used to light cues, but it's really taking time. My last horse was green broke and I worked with him doing a lot of groundwork, what I would call properly. And he would do anything on just a feel. I know my new horse knows this stuff, so this video has really encouraged me. (I didn't mean to write a book. lol)
Watching this makes so much sense. Thank you.
Awesome demonstration PAt, so enjoy your principles in teaching!!
Another great video! Thanks Pat & Deb! Love all the high tech tools. Theres no reason to buy a $40 carrot stick if you can make one with stuff you already have. Laura
I see Y'al are getting this UA-cam thing now with the High-end quality horse products. Even offering choice of string and WM flag colors to fit ones equestrian needs or attire. UA-camrs know it's all about the Merch! 😂
I'm really enjoying these vids on some of the subtleties that set foundations. And thank you, thank you for addressing when a training tool stops being one. Some folks are more into their tools than the goals they are trying to accomplish. Not every horse will need that tool or react the same way to it. The Horse has to set the pace. But, you have to be able to See and Feel where they are to make the adjustments. Blessings to you both.
Thanks AGAIN for a great lesson for us horse trainers. I love ur simple easy to understand ways & reasons. Thanks for ur time & effort & to others involved in putting together making the videos!!!!!
good information . like the way he presents his training
Your words of wisdom ..it’s worth it’s weight in gold! There is hope for an Illinois Green Horn!
I always enjoy your videos. I'm amazed at the level of your horse knowledge. 👍🏼
Well, yeah, I like ya just fine ! 😊
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Another gem! Thank you so much for this one! Can’t say enough about your narrative info.. love it! I especially like, and need to work on , the changing direction! Many thanks! You bet I like ya!!
Always good to learn.....thanks Pat and Deb
Subtle but important stuff! 👍👍
Nice ♥️ thank you Pat
Chinaco is definitely jug-headed. I'd take him any day!
That was one fine video. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience
Sure is nice to hear from you. Why don’t you get out here for a visit?
Really enjoy the videos.. I learn so much.. Thank you Pat and Deb...
Bovine terrorists! Lol. You crack me up, Pat! You remind me of the old timey guys that I was taught by. Not old. Old timey. It's a good thing. 💕 Love watching your videos. I work on a fairly big outfit in Montana, & still learn something new every day.
Many compliments to you both for the knowledge you're sharing.
Thank you the mystery is becoming clear . . . less stick more direction
I always like you,
Solid information.
I'm not sure why everyone don't hit the like button.
Bangle Billygoats I suppose.
Thank you for your time y'all.
South Central Texas Travis Beckham
Love from down under..great video...
Thanks for your sense of humour! When are you coming Downunder ?
Great video! Thanks Pat
Love the high tech gear. Thanks!
Thank you from Ardmore, Alabama. I've only recently discovered your channel and since then, I've taken many of your lessons into my training pen with me. As well, if I catch myself looking at the back of my horses head, I think about your story of their head hitting the ground like a watermellon. Fortunately, that hasn't happened ... YET. :) Again, much appreciated!
We’re happy your horse’s head hasn’t hit the ground. That sound is something you would definitely notice. Pat will be driving through your country in October or November. Stay tuned for details at some future date...
@@PatnDebPuckett That would be a real treat! You let me know if you need somewhere to bunk and water your horses!
Deb& Pat just for your info. you see who subscribed and who likes but I believe there are far more people watching than you know . I have spoken to lots of people that say oh ya l Javed watched him but never sub. share or like . What l am saying is you are more popular than the computer is telling you. So keep up with the videos . Like watching not riding rite now recuperating but will be at it again . My colt arrives in about 5 days . I would love to sit and talk horse but that is not likely to happen now .
" Thank-You ! ... From North Queensland , Australia."
informative AND entertaining!!!
I don't have a combo tool, I need to put a hook at the end of my flag... We trailer loaded a "bovine terrorist" recently and fished the rope off(essential tool on the back of every flat bed) Great explanation of how a horse needs to be bent at the ribs...
Your amazing, love the way you tell it like it is, as horses are blk. And white, there isn’t an in between.
Thanks
Love your comments, question is Larry shoed, if not when do you shoe your horses?
Larry is shod. Most people who send horses to us unshod. It’s easier to rope them that way. Then Pat puts shoes on them right away because of the rocks and decomposed granite we have here.
Very nice horse. Really trying.
Deb can you ask Pat to show us up close how he tied that rope to the halter. I just lost my trusty rope so I have another that does not have a snap but the way Pate has it would work. thanks
How do you feel about general Jackson
This is exactly what my 9 yo gelding does. After first viewing of this video I tried your method and got very frustrated at his lack of willingness to just go forward. Watching this video again, to learn how better to teach him the 'feel'. My horse DOES NOT go forward in a round pen. I now realize I used a weapon, not a tool. YIKES. I've tried the 'here it comes' (ask, ask again, here it comes!) with a lunge whip with extremely little positive results. He just moves his hindquarters away and becomes defiant. He will move better swinging a rope, though. He is a good horse under saddle; knows leg cues and all. But I need to go back to 'rebuild that connection'. Questions: 1. What do you mean by "all the humans time is spent on the left" and why does that make him hesitant on that side? 2. Do you think physical stature has any bearing on the horse? I'm 5'4, you are 6'4 and can look him in the eye when his head goes up. Thanks, Larry.
Like you? I thought it was love at first sight.
I love the videos!! Any chance you are going to sell the modified snaffles with the rollers?
We do sell them on our website www.thedisciplinedride.com/store . Thanks for asking...
When told to do a task, one wants the horse to respond, not react.
AMEN!
if you stand behind "drive line" ???? in my enxpirienc I saw the problem but my knowledge its "poor" and I always stay behinde shoulders ? . On begining I give pressure on the neck but always begin with lite pressure ? (sry for for my bad eng. I hope u undrstend)
Amen.
Great!!
What do you do when your 2 year old colts wants to walk right next to you as he passes?
I had to explain what a bosal was to a rider from across the pond... They don't use them very often in the UK or Europe ( other than Spain perhaps?).
We’ve never seen a bosal in Spain. They use a serreta which is a bent piece of metal that sits on the nose with rings on each side. Similar to a side pull but a bit more severe. The bosal was an invention that came up from Mexico but nobody seems to know for sure.
@@PatnDebPuckett thanks Deb. That's why I put the question mark. The Mexican calberros probebly used the materials they had ( horse hair) to fashion something similar to what had been used in Spain...great invention!
My retired horse has the brand of the goat, but his is because when he gets up off the ground he goes butt high first with his front end on his knees, then stands on one front hoof and then the other. But he surely has a brand of the goat.
Bingo does know how to go where he is told without a whip just a point of the finger or a nod of the head.
Where can you get the bosal from, do you sell them?
You can order a bosal from our online store. We don’t keep them in stock but they arrive in 4-6 weeks. Thanks! www.thedisciplinedride.com/store
patience calm direct letting the horse work it out .
💖
what is Chinaco's breeding please?
Lusitano/Andalusian cross...
Hey Pat I got funny question, do cowboys post?
Yes. This cowboy and cowgirl have posted for many many many miles. Sitting flat on your horse’s back if you’re going all day is not fair to your horse.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thanks for the quick reply.
How old is this gelding?
The paint horse is 6 and the gray horse is 1.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you! One year old and already is a gelding? Is not it early for him to be a gelding? Thanks
Under, switch, change direction. I like your style.I have only one question at this point. Why don't you like turtlenecks on humans?
I miss Ray.
I always tell my dog training clinets... always end on a good note...and never work so much that all you are doing is setting up your dog for failue
Larry is such a beautiful horse. Stopped watching when you slapped it, he's been through enough abuse.
Larry was "pushing" him. It had to be corrected instantly. "pushing" is an attempt to get the human to move HIS feet. It's a bully tactic by the horse to establish dominance. If you let the horse get away with it, he then starts to become dangerous, and more severe correction is necessary. Larry was not "hurt" by that correction, in fact he was helped one more step away from the "meat-wagon".
I'm in love with Larry. He's a looker and cool.
Thanks