Pat's Take on Bits
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2019
- In this video, Pat explains the differences between the mouthpieces and cheekpieces of traditional western bits and how he picks a bit for a particular horse. For more information on what we do, please visit www.thedisciplinedride.com. Please subscribe to this channel and hit that "like" button! Thanks for watching...
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'Bout bloody time someone gave us a proper explanation.
My Grandpa would've gotten a kick out of you. Miss him.
We are from South Texas and I can say these videos are the best I have ever seen. Very similar to our traditions all my boys are better horsemen after listening to the straight to the point approach. Keep it up we need people like you in a fading tradition
Where can one purchase a snaffle with a cricket like the one you use?
@@peggybartlett9699 I'm pretty sure that is his bit. I saw one on his website which the link to is in the description of this video.
I’m from Texas. I’m a lifelong student of vaquero horsemanship. I’m always amazed by the willingness of some to criticize what requires study and observation to understand. Patience, I have much more of that for horses than I do for people for one simple reason, people speak the same language I do. I’ve put a lot of time into learning how horses communicate. The simple answer for those that question the use of bits or Spurs lies in competence and knowledge. Precision tools have no meaning or value to a man who thinks only of utility rather than craftsmanship. I keep my tools out of the reach of infants.
I nigh on cackled when he said, "Don't mind the concho, it's a vulgar display of wealth." Particularly because my dad and mentor both give me grief about a Salinas/Santa Barbara I've got on a garish headstall with yes, those vulgar displays on wealth for which is the only justification for a brow band being on a bridle. Now, in my defense, that's just my go to for the two rein. I have the decency to have a simple split ear set up for horses closer to being finished. Haha
When you work hard for your money earn it honest way
You want the finer things so use some bling if you can afford it lol
You are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for sharing your years of experience!
Trying to buy your dvd on quality ground work. What is the correct link.
Thank you Pat. I laughed fairly hard when you started talking about your grill. Not only do you know the horse's mind but the mind of your fellow man as well.
Thanks for lending us a little "bit" of your wisdom. It is greatly appreciated by this cowhand and wanna-be horseman.
Whish your vids where around in the 80's . I haven't been on a horse for decades yet know much more now thanks to you and mr true horsemanship .
Hi G'day.. I'm an Aussie and I love watching your video's.. enjoy your BBQ LOL
Thanks Pat and Deb for this video! The knowledge you two share with the rest of the world is amazing. I hope people are paying attention to what you say. I would like to see a "how to" video about buying a ranch horse because I see a lot of new buyers get in over their heads and a lot of horses end up suffering because of it. Thanks from Arkansas
He is so knowledgeable
It’s awesome, this is my night study now for several weeks. I’m addicted.
Tell your wife thank you for encouraging and supporting you in this journey of your life. You are extremely resourceful.
May God bless you both in abundance and Love.
Keep up the great work.. Tired of the show world, desire and passion to be a rancher has been burning within for years.
I too am taking a leap Pat and selling Nashville to be able to obtain my own ranch outside of city limits and contribute to my community also. My dream is here in Springfield not far from KY state line, only 45 min to Nashville for work. I am 52 and this has been my dream since childhood. I have asked too many people for roping lessons and now am teaching myself because of you, you gave me the confidence. Thank you again for everything.
Lori keep asking! Pull as much information that you can from anybody that's a hand with horse's go search for it then find out what work's for you with that knowledge as long as your patient relaxed and willing to take it slow your horse will show you if its right by the results it gives back. You'll never quit learning unless you want to quit!
Thanks for taking the time to make this informative video.
God Bless you and your bride .Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge
Always fun to learn with Pat.
So grateful to have found you, sir. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It is truly a valuable commodity.
Ya gotta listen quick. Mr. Puckett has some zingers.😂 With that being said, "The body is what rides the horse." That's the greatest teaching statement I've ever heard out of all the horse trainers.
I just love your videos! Most helpful and straight to the punch. I’m learning new things to the better good of my horse
Love the humor & telling it the way it is! Thank you for your knowledge and experience! I will be putting it to use!
I love your videos. I’ll bet sitting around a campfire with you guys brings out some great stories😊
Excellent video! Pat is my favourite. In my mind Pat has it all, wisdom, feel, and a hell of a BBQ
I've never gotten an explanation that I could follow as to how it changes anything to make a shank a different shape - Now I get it, it starts with the bit's center of balance, and how much material (i.e., weight) is behind that center of balance, how much in front, so you can have bits hang more vertically, or less vertically, so you can put the horse in a bit that asks for the right verticality for that horse - Thank You!
PS - I promise, I "Like" all your videos, and have long since subscribed!
Youll now see bits in a whole new light, the reason for all those diffrent bits is to find the proper bslance& tounge relife, for any givin horse, its a lot like finding dentures , off the rack!
Thanks guys for all the videos!! They are a wealth of practical information for this old hand in South Georgia!!
Not only are your videos very informative but they are also very entertaining: Love Pat's humor!!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I watch at least one of your videos daily- usually twice because I share them with my husband. He gets a kick out of Pat's colorful descriptions. 😂
God bless you both. Thanks again.
Most knowledgeable man I came across. What a gentleman.
This wise man must be recognized for his talents. You sir are a very fine role model and would love to make time to listen to you teach me anytime.
Once again an excellent video on a confusing subject. Your straight-forward style of explanation with colorful words and sayings makes it a fun lesson - and reminds me of how my dad and g'pa would explain livestock. Thanks you.
Very informative video - thank you both and regards from Wyoming!
I've had (Western) horses for 25 years (I've personally only owned four in that time). I've never ridden in anything but a full cheek snaffle because I fear being too heavy handed with a western bit, and potentially teaching the horse bad habits or becoming resentful. This is a helpful video as are the others, and I'm now seeing the potential benefits in spade bits...which I always considered a tool of the lazy and fearful rider afflicted by the "Get a Bigger Hammer" syndrome. These videos are making me rethink things.
hey there, thank you for this video! love your explanations and the humour that you have! but more importantly am so pleased that you are making these and sharing your knowledge.
Believe you covered some good points there sir, nice talk ! Looking forward to the next one!
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Thanks Mr Pat. I'm definitely learning things from your videos.
Love you video and stories behind everything.
Thank you for making this video, as another Vlogger, I appreciate the time you spent putting it together. Very good information here for sure. I don’t use bits on my farm and your excellent explanation of the pain a Snaffle can cause is why; but bits do have a purpose which is why I will never say anything I’ll about them in the hands of one who knows how to properly use the aid. I have watched your other videos and you have my deepest respect sir. Looking forward to more videos in the future.
You MR. amaze me every time I watch you channel.
Great job Bro i could watch and learn from you all day.Thanks for sharing!
I love you guys! You're so helpful...and fun.
Thank you for the excellent video on western bits and those used in the vaquero method. It is the best explanation by far that I have seen to date on the web. Can you make a video on the hackamore and particularly what to look for in a bosal and possibly some braiders who know their craft and have experience in its use?
From Cape Cod.
thanks for your insight in an understandable common sense manner. I've been working with Mecate reins and Bosals, it takes a lot of time but hopefully the horses I've been working with respect it. thanks again for your insight
Great video. Thank you for the excellent explanation.
Thank you so much for this! I had the pleasure of working under a fabulous reining horse trainer. His advice about bits was if in doubt, go to a grazer! I love learning from seasoned cowboys. The young'uns do have some good concepts, but the best comes from guys like you!
Haha, I love your videos. Thanks for the information. I grew up in Wyoming riding Western and only have experience with curb bits, but now I'm living in Albania and am riding English (trail/trek riding, not arena/show riding), soI'm now learning about riding with snaffle bits. I love what you emphasized at the end, though, that the bit is for collection, but you ride with your body. Absolutely right. Thanks again for another great, informative video!
Thank you sir for opinion & expertise
What I find interesting about your videos is the reminder of how many aspects of horsing around there are. You are crystal clear that your expectation as are a working ranch horse. I have friends who do English eventing, endurance competitions, pleasure riders, dressage, and there are those who never leave the boarding arena. My wife and I trial dogs, and keep the horses tuned through the rest of the year pleasure trail riding. My horse I had forever (he’s passed a few years ago) and I communicated really well. Much of the time I used a barrel racing rein so I could just drop it on his neck and direct him with body position. He wasn’t the smoothest Walker, but we got along well.
I suspect that if I hopped on your favorite horse, or if you hopped on mine the finer details of the rider horse language wouldn’t be obvious to each other - because you and I speak different languages. All the various disciplines have their own thing going on.
But I do like what you have going on there. Nice work. I’d like to cows with you for a week or two. I’m wire my horse and I would improve.
That was great information, you are such a knowledgeable man, I have learned so much from watching your videos!!
Thank you for sharing!!
so interesting to hear about this! from what i know, progressing to a "plain" (meaning no extra snaffle like its often used today in a double bridle) curb bit was the goal to baroque riders ages ago as well, it meant your horse was schooled enough to not need the bit to be steered and ready for collection. nice seeing the parallels!
Pat, I love your videos, your quite a Horseman/Cowboy, I'm learning allot. Keep up the great work!
Thank you both.
Always informative and do enjoy the history lessons, I am always trying to be a better cowhand and a better horseman.
Thank you
Medicine Hat
Alberta
I enjoyed learning this video. Thank you!
You have an excellent knowledge of bits. I'll be recommending your video to a few friends who are getting terrible advice from a local "trainer" who puts every horse in a twisted wire snaffle. In my opinion twisted wire doesn't belong in a horse's mouth and if you feel a need to use on on any horse you are not a trainer and not a horseman.
“Cross dresser comes to mind” 😂
haha
Hilarious!
Still the best everytime I watch
It was a pleasure to have met you many years ago when you were in Australia. I was a young ranch hand . And i found your information invaluable
Thank you very much for contacting us. We’re planning another trip to Victoria and South Australia in the middle of March. You can email us for details: debpuckett@gmail.com
Thank you for explaining the different western bits! You did a great job with reminding everyone to hit the like button! Lol!😁
I love it...I get excited when i see a new video,from you folks..Another way to put it is,,the Halfbreed,is the foundation of the Spoon or true spade..Lacking the spoon or spade and braces..I have always scratched my head even more,,at the "Shank Snaffle"",,but then again,i grew up,in the same world you did..Since you are going off topic,with the grill,,how about showing us your Sheepherder wagon..I love those things and love to see the little different ways they are set up,inside..
Thanks for all of the advice learning from the video's
So informative, thank you so much.
Thanks for another great video, learning a lot through them and I appreciate the time you take to make them.
I would love to learn more one making a hackmore horse if you need more video ideas.
I do really like your bit that you designed for crossover. I still occasionally train other people's horses and it would be really nice to have something like that.
You gave me an excellent education on those bits and more than a few good chuckles this morning. Thanks, guys. Always a fan and watching for more. PS: Can't believe you don't have some mouth-watering recipes tucked away that really need sharing. Maybe time for a cooking class with that definitely interesting bbq you teased under our noses. Do a show and tell. And add that bbq to your products for sale....you may have a run-a-way winner there. As an old scratch cook, I did have a hard time keeping my eyes off it! May have to watch the video again and pay more attention to the bits!!!
thank you for the good information, I don't own a correction bit period. If I have a problem with a horse, I go back to the bosal, or halter.
Watched it and liked it thank you very much!
Just found your channel the other day. Good stuff. I come from a ranching background myself and find that folks with practical ways may not fit so well with our show horse neighbors
Thanks for your knowledge I'm from Orange Australia ive interested in the old California tradition for years you really do a great job of explaining how could i get one of your solid mouth snaffle with cricket thanks Sid
Very good information. Thanks
I sure do enjoy your videos and I get a lot from them keep up the good work
Great explanation, it was very helpful. I've asked many cowboys to explain the difference in bits to me, but their arrogance generally begins where their knowledge ends. Many thanks folks!
One last thing Grace our mustang is 1200 pounds she came to us bucking, kicking spinning around and stomping lifting her head when you approach her. We left her alone and just fed groomed her through a fence and slowly worked catching her. Took 5 months for a change, now with your help she’s transforming. Just ground work soon we’ll get on her. Thanks
gracias por su tiempo es a mi gusto la mejor esplicasion
Suscribed and liked! Thank You Both. Very Educational and Entertaining. Many Blessings 🙇♂️🙏
well sir I do like the way you think/feel about twist wire broken snaffle bits
Wonderful- thanks pat and Deb - miss you here in Arizona - I think you’d like my new horse -
Very cool to see. Grew up around horses and appreciate the information. That horse you had looks Doc Bar. We had a few in Hawaii. Best regards
Thank you for this!!
I loved this video too!!!!
These are so educational. Makes me wish I had come in with my early relatives to be a vaquero.
Very informative thank you
Great job creating this video. Well done! Thanks for the enlightening content of bits. Wish I could find that learning bit here in Alberta. It makes sense.
I'm also in Alberta and have found this kind of bit on line by looking under hinged snaffle. My goal is the show ring, so I will be using three bits with the same mouthpiece - the snaffle, then a double rein shank, then a silver bit with the single rein shank. The bit does make sense in giving room for the horse's tongue for comfort and so on. The more comfortable the mouth, the better the horse. I believe Pat and Deb offer their bit on their website as well. I hope this helps and wish you the best in your riding and your career as an artist!
I've just found you and I have to say I know nothing about horses. I've taken lessons in English and now I am much older and find the western saddle safer and more secure for this old body. Your experience and plain talk explanation are a welcome breath of fresh air. I've been looking for a cricket snaffle and can't find one. Ideas? Thank you sir and please don't stop teaching the basics.
You can order one on our website. They are currently backordered but will be back in stock in early September. You can reserve one if you don’t mind the wait.
www.thedisciplinedride.com/store.html
OMG. I’ve watched this video at least five times and I just now realized what Pat meant by a correction bit being a collection bit!! I always thought he meant collection as in a horse being collected (I know, makes no sense but that’s all I could come up with). Now I realize he meant people collect them. And I can see why. There are so many variations people probably keep buying different versions, searching for the best one.
Thanks a lot for this piece of culture ! I am an dressage trainer form germany
Talking of Australia, just got myself a Peewee solid bar snaffle. Excellent piece of equipment. Talks black and white. Also very interested in bosal and eventual use of pencil bosal and Martin Black and all that trad stuff.. Bbq looks the biz.
I liked it,from New Zealand 🙂
Thank you, sir.
Keep'em coming
Loved it👍
Great video
You are so right on the mark. What a breath of fresh air. I use mullen mouths, spanish bits, and side pulls. Where do you get the mullen with the cricket?
Thank you nicely presented, I'm kind of sorry I sold my silver bits, but I really had no need for them anymore. I still have one half breed, but the shanks are curved more like US Calvary bit but less sweep a bit straighter.
Pat, I am purchasing my first O-ring cricket as you have been riding in. I have a brand new 8 year old gelding who has been yanked on by his previous owner by an o-ring. NOT an o-ring curved with a cricket. This horse is so sensitive I hope this bit helps him relax a bit. by watching your videos i think this o-ring cricket will help him relax along with my breathing and seating. i am just trying to find the best o ring for him. thank you.
I wish I could have a one on one lessons from you, or you come to Raymond, Maine on Sebago Lake! You remind me of my dad with straight foward knowledge
I try to remember what you said first 😊nope.When you say something funny I forget. Must be getting younger . I've watched all day I'm like and subscribed. I need a nap
Happy New year
Just got your book Transitioning your horse to a western bit. Sounds like you suggest a halter , ground work re-teach pressure, yield and timing. Then get on and work my legs in a halter. But what about the cricket bit? Do I start this in my ground work, then ride in a halter working my seat commands. I guess your clinic will help. Your videos on ground work has transformed my mustang of 12. She is so much more respectful and listens. She was taught well but went to a poor second handler then a rescue, she comes in 1/2 way when I raise my hand and the the rest when I raise my hand and slap my leg. Really love your help!! She going to be amazing!!!
Yes you can use the Missing Link Snaffle after you do your homework in the halter as an intermediate step to the western bit.
Thank you wish I’d paid more attention 40 years ago
How do I get to your store. To order broken snafflle?
Well that made sense. Thankyou.
I don't even ride or have a hourse dnd I liked it and subscribed. Good job!
Dear mr puckett, I can't Express how much I truly enjoyed your videos. Unfortunately, I have not been able to ride for quite a few years, so I get my horse "fix" through youtubers like yourself . Please keep up the good work. One question please, here in Missouri and southern Illinois, we used a plain curb bit. Your thoughts on those please.
I have to admit i didnt recognize the BBQ grill as a grill. Great info on bit thank you
Love the hat. 👍
I think the bridle rosette is lovely and though it means nothing to the horse it means something to you.
Its beautiful.
Very nice