My Cars last few years. Astra 1.7 diesel broke gudgeon pin, Astra 1.4 petrol tyre blow out on M4 written off. VW T5 replaced the turbo, EGR, camshaft, and cracked manifold (tahts an engine out. NIssan Qashqai petrol, piston rings leaking oil and burning in cylinders also dried out cam chain stretched and plastic (hahhahah) tensioner broken. All cars serviced at dealers. 2 new cars coming both electric. One I can drive to Dover from here in west Wales and recharge in Bruge and its pre warmed.
what makes me laugh is Land Rover the go anywhere vehicle going over to EV,s...... do they have charging points in the Jungle or desert................... absolute insanity
They were talking about the army doing the same which is even more stupid. These people are trying to out do each other for the most stupid idea they can get taken seriously by politicians
I very much doubt whether Land and Range Rover will abandon producing IC engines any time soon. They cater for the world market, not just the UK and western EU.
The RAC said that when travelling in winter I should carry a snow shovel, blankets, first aid kit, flask of coffee, duct tape, bag of salt and sand, torch, poncho. I felt a right twat on the bus this morning.
Interesting point about EVs on ferries. Brittany ferries site says EVs must have no more than 40% charge when boarding and must display a windscreen sticker. Then parked in a special area. Best towed behind on a barge for safety.
You should have to discharge your battery like they do with capacitors when working on electrical equipment. A big resistor on jump leads should do it😊 Safety first
Sorry to hear about your brother but i drove to Edinburgh and half way back on a 335 mile EV. Charged it up at home for £7 and spent £10 to charge up to get me home with loads of extra charge spare.
@@shaunthornton5217 You didn't do that in the winter (heating seems to cut range considerably) and it clearly wasn't in summer (AC cuts range considerably) and you certainly didn't travel at motorway speeds because that seems to cause up to 50% reduction in range. In fact, I'd be willing to bet it never happened at all and you're just so utterly deluded you can't even see the lie for what it is.
@@shaunthornton5217 I got to say my goodbye. Having to travel that far with range anxiety on top of the emotions already faced would be too much for anyone. The last thing you'd want is to get there full of anger for the 'issues' you could have faced during EV charging. Not a common problem I'd agree but something people need to realise/face if they own an EV. Geoff is quite correct in his assertion that an EV *adds* to your woes rather than resolves them. I couldn't give a ratsarse for 'emissions'.
When I lived in Canada (almost twenty years ago) my Infiniti had a remote starter. Used to start the car while I was brushing my teeth in the mornings. Seat hot, car hot, engine hot, steering wheel all warmed up. Petrol. What are the EV bros on about?
That may be true, but do you want all those fumes outside your house? In colder parts of the US it's often the thing to leave a diesel vehicle running throughout the winter to stop it freezing up. Not really good for the environment.
@@6581punk not really a problem with a modern euro 6 diesel. Ive never had any issue starting mine even in minus 10c weather and it didnt have a furnace. It also didnt sod or smell.
I live in Guernsey. We have 35ft tides over our roads. So that's salt-water in the roads for 15% to 20% of our daily drives, year round. I build boats for a living, ALL of 'em a little leak salt water, just is. Tiny amounts of that will make an EV rather unwell.
I was using my son’s Tesla Model X here in Munich in the Winter. Even in the mild Winter nights where it barely went below 0C it was losing 5% Charge per night. Wasted charge to keep the batteries warm. Also it never had more than ~ 380km range on full charge. My Jag XF Diesel ~ 900km range on a full tank. I was due to drive to my friends in Switzerland to go skiing. Jag was in the shop not sure if it would be ready in time. Son said take the Tesla. It is 600km+ to my friends. Even if fully charged before leaving it Would require 2 full charge stops on the way and then park on his drive for a week in the mountains at minimum -15C. God knows how much charge it would lose sat doing nothing for 6 days at -15C. Then have a similar faff on the way home. Luckily the Jag was ready in time. Could fill up with Diesel at the Austrian/Swiss border giving ~ 900km range. Enough to drive to my friends and back
I live in Canada. Well familiar with the cold. Minus 30° c cold. And when it gets really cold. I've got a button on my keychain. I push it, the car starts. 5 minutes later even if there's a foot of snow on top of it the car is warmed up inside. I drive a Kia Soul. That's very far from a luxury automobile. And yet I've got a button to start the car remotely. My car has heated seats and heated steering wheel. However if you didn't have heated seats or heated steering wheel you could still go to Canadian Tire and buy a heating thing to put on the seat and the steering wheel. Lots of people do that. So you don't need a $100,000 automobile which can't handle the cold. We can have something a quarter of that price with the remote start and the heated seats and the heated steering wheel and still be happy even when it's minus 40° At home I have a lawn mower. And that means I have a gas can in the garage with gas for the lawn mower. And that means I've always got about 5 l of gas in the garage just in case something happens. So if the entire electrical grid went down and my car for whatever reason happened to be completely out of gas, I still have enough gas in the can in the garage to get out of town should the need arise. Gasoline. It's the way of the future.
An EV for you would be very dangerous, as the battery is cold it can take on a lot more charge so it will go to 100%. But when you start driving it, the battery warms up and will go over 100%, so you hope the safety system start to recharge it. Also, if you have a very warm garage then charge it when the car hits the cold, the battery will drop a lot of power.
In Sweden, cars are under cover to keep the snow off, and have an immersion heater in the engine, so the engine is always warm. Just remember to unplug the cable before you drive off! 🤣
Geoff - I had a 2000 BMW 530D (E39) which had an Eberspacher diesel Heater factory fitted that could programmed to pre warm and defrost the car including warming the engine - so for all the EV owner/drivers pre warming a car isn't a new thing.
Had to drive through very deep water on the way home from work in Monmouth to Bristol on Friday night and my 20 year old Citroen Picasso got me home! The flood was in the middle of nowhere and in an EV I would have been stranded !
@@AcemeistreNothing like filling all your monocoque body sections with water and accelerating corrosion problems thereby shortening the life of the car!
@@Acemeistre @ace ....... BUT ... if you have to go thro' a ford (as in sump of water) in an EV with a lithium battery, there is a vary high risk of a lithium fuelled fire due to the cells shorting out !!!
When I worked in a mountainous area of Germany, we'd see 40 degrees in the afternoon summer sunshine and minus 20 degrees overnight in the winter. Our petrol car always started first twist of the key with little variation in range due to temperature. With EVs having short range in cold weather and having potentially volatile battery packs if charging when it's hot they are not fit for purpose. That's before you look at the economics... In an emergency? Do me a favour!
as I noticed with -5°C last morning petrol cars have another benefit more power and torque with cold air, for free, I was at 120kph before the end of a pretty short and steep highway entry lane I'm usually around 80kph my car likes cold a alot !
I drive a 1989 Toyota Corolla... I was driving it on absolute empty today. The light has been on for close on 100km. I put in R200 emergency petrol to get home at the petrol station next to the 3d print shop. If I had an electric car I would have had to push the thing home. Edit. The petrol attendant cleaned the windows for which I tipped him R6... well worth the visit.
@@ajkgordon they do and soon will even more read hyundai bluelink safeguard alerts and know that in one of 2024 navigation updates end user agreement they added a "can be remotely enforced by law" so those aren't and never were made just to prevent a dealership to drive too fast or your son or whatever...those are made to be used against you, that's the entire point of 5G from the start fyi being able to track and control connected cars
y'all be running on the assumption that an EV would have a depleted battery at the time of an emergency, when in reality cars are spread out at different levels of fuel or charge regardless of type.
An EV never seems to achieve even the limited mileage it displays once fully charged. Last night I filled up my 1.5dci and the displayed mileage range was 645. When I got home (30 miles later) it was displaying a range of 650. I know, from past experience, that I can comfortably drive 750 miles on a full tank if I drive on a motorway, (avoiding busy times), keep to the speed limit and use cruise control. My extremely reliable French car is 14yrs old, has done 116k miles, is serviced annually by a local independent mechanic, can carry 5 fully grown average sized adults in comfort, (with a full luggage load), and still achieve @ 59mpg on a long run and because I purchased it whilst used ICE cars were still sensibly priced, it's only depreciated by £2k in 6yrs!
I drive an old E-Class Merc (S212) and it has a range of at least 1,500 kilometres with one Tank filled with 90 litres of Diesel fuel. Last year I had to drive to south-east Europe for a job and I drove in a Convoy with a 14 ton truck and a Sprinter van. Which means that I was going with about 90-95km/h. The "low fuel" warning light lit up after more than 2,000 kilometres! I did way over 2,100km on one tank of Diesel.
My diesel Land Cruiser as remote start. When it's cold in the morning I start the engine from the comfort of my house, get myself ready and by the time I am ready to go my car is nice and warm and fully defrosted.
I can do that in my VW van, heated mirrors and windscreen. The difference is I can do that in about 2 minutes and I'm off. I'm not then annoying my neighbours who may be trying to sleep or polluting the air.
Unlike an EV, you can’t leave an unoccupied ice vehicle running in a public carpark when it is unoccupied. Bloody wonderful in hot weather to have a cool interior, also helps keep the shopping in good condition.
I used to work with a chap who lived up in Macclesfield. On cold mornings, he used to run an extension lead out across the pavement, and plug a fan heater in, which he put inside the car. "That's where you need it"! He said. He went and had his breakfast while the fan heater warmed up his car outside. Apart from the trip hazard, why not?
Love my Skoda 1.0tsi 55mpg no problem, My neighbour has just had a brand new Audi etron delivered today company car, Would sooner have my reliable Skoda, Take care outthere.
Wise Words Geoff! My crappy little Fiat Panda 4x4 twin air has heated seats, mirrors AND windscreen 😂 And the heater blows warm air in about three or four minutes 🤓 Sorted 💥 Gotta love a freezing cold morning 😂👍🥶
I drove a crappy little Fiat panda 2k miles over a weekend including up to the top of the Sierras Nevadas in Spain. The back seat was a hammock in those days. I couldn’t take it on to Gibraltar so I paid some guy to not smash it up and then drove it back to Murcia. It took 12 hours. Poor car 😂
Freedom? Move to Australia, free power between 11-2pm, subsidised home solar and now can use ev to power home in peak and save $$, independence from big companies and all the oil wars!
Drove to London with a full charge in my EV. Parked up at the hotel, had a nice sleep, went to work the next day, got back in to a warm car, drove half way home, stopped off at a services, went to the loo, waited for my kfc, got back in my car 15 minutes later, drove home, plugged car back in and charged it up over night. Cheap rate during the night cost me £5. Spent £10 at the services charging on tesla fast charger. 400 mile round trip and then enough charge to do it all again. Didnt have to stand at the petrol station in the wind waiting with my hand on the pump to fill it up. You stick to your old diesel cars, i’ll drive around in a brilliant car that does whatever i need it to and more and have fun doing it as well.
There are plenty of things you can fit to pre-heat a car - a plug in cooling water heater, a Webasto-type integrated fuel-burning heater, or a Chinese diesel fuelled air blower.
American Clif High on X and SubStack was asked years ago by a friend if he wanted to take a ride in early Tesla. Clif has been a high level programmer for 30 years and is really smart. Clif told his friend, let me grab an EMF (electromagnetic frequency) meter first. He said the numbers were off the charts. He told his friend he would never ride in one. Clif said EV's are like driving around in a microwave.
In Germany, 40+ years ago. I drilled a small hole in the kitchen window frame and passed a cable through. Placed a 100w lead lamp in the driver's footwell of an evening. Come the morning, kettle on, plug in the lamp and the car was defrosted by he time I had finished by breakfast.
Before ULEZ and when I was working I had a 2008 BMW 330d touring. I put a plug socket on the drive that I could control from inside the house. I had a small fan heater velcrowed to the rear seat arm rest set to low heat. When I pulled up on the drive in the evening would plug it in and close and lock the car up. When I got up in the morning I would flick the switch inside the house which would start the fan heater inside the car. Have a have a coffee for 15 min or so and on the way out to work turn the outside plug off, unlock the car and put the heater plug lead back inside the car. The windows were defrosted and the inside was as warm as toast. Never had to scrape the ice of the windows again!
Great vid as usual Geoff - I love the way as soon as your vid finished and the next one, from Furious Driving; was an advert for the full electric BMW range. Yeah… I don’t think so 😅
I’ve lived in Munich for the last 20+ years and also was here in the early 90’s. Winters pretty cold going down to -20C. Even in the 90’s some germans had “Motor pre-heaters” “Standheizung” on their cars that they could set on a timer. Could hear them running on the street first thing in the dark minus “lots” winter mornings. Still available now controllable over your phone.
The fact is we only have maybe 15 days of real hard frost so a cold car doesn't bother me as I spend half my life outdoors so No problem for me. I love the colour of that Volvo but it needs a TDI so be the ideal workhorse as a V70 TDI can do nearly 20mpg more.
The thumbnail, I was there today and wondered what the traffic lights were for. I went left towards Eastham Bridge where the road was blocked with abandoned vehicles, presumably stuck in flood water from last week, had to turn around.
What an absolute rubbish. I had petrol and diesel cars since 1999 and remember very well situations where I came back home on reserve (10-20 miles of range) , didn’t stop for petrol cause I was late/ or rushing back home. The. Next morning something comes up and I cannot go because I need a 15 min detour to get petrol! Happened multiple times, especially in UK where services are 60-80 miles apart so you can’t hit the motorway and tank there. Now on my third year with EV, I have my own petrol station at home so I wake up full, with car ready to go, defrosted and seats nice and warm. There’s more! Guess how many minutes I have to stand outside holding a nozzle to “fill up”?? That’s right , entire fu** all minutes.
Have you all seen the “call a general election” petition (apart from them being useless and not wanting the tories anyway ) there are 2 million signatures !
Love the EV brigade, they think they are the first ever people who can pre heat their cars. I had that 30 years ago in my works van. Just stick a pre heater on your diesel, works wonders.
I bought cheap diesel in Valencia, 1€ 22 centimos / litre, filled the van and 40 litres in jerry cans. I made it all the way back to Dover, ~1600km, bypassing expensive French diesel, (about 2€/ltr) and then refuelled at the Tesco supermarket above Dover. £1.42/ltr. The jerry cans were emptied before boarding the ferry. Freedom to drive. (Moved from somewhere in all the replies).
Best of both worlds: an electric pre heater for radiator coolant ( Swedish style) . Prompt heat on a cold day but petrol/diesel practicality and no EV rubbish.
I live in a quiet rural area and if I need to go anywhere on a cold, frosty morning I have a special tool that allows me to heat and defrost my 2004 Honda Accord while I enjoy my coffee in the kitchen. It's called the spare key. 🔑
I would just like to mention EV milage is drastically reduced in cold weather while petrol and diesel cars are not affected. You lose milage on EV's just by putting your heating and lights on.
Heating your EV per starting your journey only reduces the range by a number of % points when that range will also been compromised by the cold weather so a stated range of 240 miles may be reduced to below 200 or less! Where as in an ICE vehicle heating it is only a by product of it running on the road with no loss of range!
Weather has not been strange. Birds falling out the sky onto cruise ships is sinister. Someone knows. I have a remote heater on my Volvo V60, a diesel auxiliary Webasto I can set on the car clock, or go through the app on the phone. It's brilliant and means not needing to idle the car to warm it up. I don't know how i'd enjoy wading through flood water with a high voltage battery under my backside. It's bad enough with an air filter inlet awareness.
If it is cold, just start the "ICY" engine & let it warm up in the driveway for 5 minutes before departure...If your "ICY" car warms up slowly, you need to check or replace the thermostat! Possibly one that fully opens at a higher temp!
Can you imagine having drained your battery to get home and putting on your home charger, then having a family emergency and not having the power to drive to it
Imagine having all but emptied your tank on the drive home. Then having a family emergency in the middle of the night and the nearest 24 hour petrol station is too far away!😢
I would stop at a nearby Rapid charger for 10 minutes and load 100 miles of range, much like I would do the same with an empty petrol car and go to a nearby petrol station for a few litres. That EV top-up might be a couple of minutes slower, but it's far from your vividly imagined disaster.
I passed two cars on the M42 last Monday , you could not see in and the drivers could not see out of any window. One wiping a small hole to see forwwards. Windows were soaking wet Very dangerous. But that is having no heater. Either energy saving or car shutting it down.
The unexpected always happens when you least expect it, imagine your EV is on your drive with 5% charge and now charging as you have been out all day in it then you get an emergency phone call and you have to be at a certain hospital a good distance away, if you only have the one car then you're fooked and would be questioning yourself why did I buy an EV?
Geoff, all I want is BRITAIN back, limited immigration, free speech, freedom of choice. Warm up, I remember wearing a flying jacket in my daily Morris 8! I really enjoy my CLK convertible but I do not support these gimmicks fitted on modern cars. I support modern technology but not when it becomes a source of failure which so many breakdowns are. I have never and never will vote for a dictator.
With floods imminent now, I would love to have Roger Moore's Lotus Esprit S1 sports AKA "Wet Nellie" , created for The Spy Who Loved Me. Lovely Lotus Esprit S1 sports car.
I don’t want an EV anytime, let alone in an emergency!
They are not really EVs, bug giant batteries waiting to cause problems.
echo, echo, echo, echo. 😂
@@Acemeistre Yes, the EV people live in an echo chamber, while we watch everyone else switch off.
My Cars last few years. Astra 1.7 diesel broke gudgeon pin, Astra 1.4 petrol tyre blow out on M4 written off. VW T5 replaced the turbo, EGR, camshaft, and cracked manifold (tahts an engine out. NIssan Qashqai petrol, piston rings leaking oil and burning in cylinders also dried out cam chain stretched and plastic (hahhahah) tensioner broken. All cars serviced at dealers. 2 new cars coming both electric. One I can drive to Dover from here in west Wales and recharge in Bruge and its pre warmed.
@@ami3214 It sounds like poor servicing, main dealers I avoid, sadly many can't make money honestly.
what makes me laugh is Land Rover the go anywhere vehicle going over to EV,s...... do they have charging points in the Jungle or desert................... absolute insanity
Yep, I'm just heading off to the desert in my diesel Polo, then the jungle 😂
Most Landrovers don't go anywhere other than suburban roads. Real Landrover customers in the country don't buy the new models, never mind an EV.
Nobody drives Land Rovers anywhere remote. That's the job for a Toyota.
They were talking about the army doing the same which is even more stupid. These people are trying to out do each other for the most stupid idea they can get taken seriously by politicians
I very much doubt whether Land and Range Rover will abandon producing IC engines any time soon. They cater for the world market, not just the UK and western EU.
The RAC said that when travelling in winter I should carry a snow shovel, blankets, first aid kit, flask of coffee, duct tape, bag of salt and sand, torch, poncho. I felt a right twat on the bus this morning.
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😂👍
Interesting point about EVs on ferries. Brittany ferries site says EVs must have no more than 40% charge when boarding and must display a windscreen sticker. Then parked in a special area.
Best towed behind on a barge for safety.
I feel uncomfortable on a ferry with an EV, they need to be in a safe area where they can be pushed off the end when they go up.
Where did they get 40% from? Surely if there is any charge then you have a potential bonfire or am I missing something?
@ I use the Plymouth to Santander 24 hour crossing quite often. This info is on their site. Not very reassuring is it?
@@thetreadtrader7565 If I was in insurance for a ferry I'd ban them completely - the risk to reward ratio doesn't work.
You should have to discharge your battery like they do with capacitors when working on electrical equipment. A big resistor on jump leads should do it😊
Safety first
I had to travel 300+ miles to the bedside of my dying brother a few years ago. Thank God I didn't have an EV.
Sorry to hear about your brother but i drove to Edinburgh and half way back on a 335 mile EV. Charged it up at home for £7 and spent £10 to charge up to get me home with loads of extra charge spare.
I don't understand travel issue
@@shaunthornton5217 Course you did.
@@shaunthornton5217 You didn't do that in the winter (heating seems to cut range considerably) and it clearly wasn't in summer (AC cuts range considerably) and you certainly didn't travel at motorway speeds because that seems to cause up to 50% reduction in range. In fact, I'd be willing to bet it never happened at all and you're just so utterly deluded you can't even see the lie for what it is.
@@shaunthornton5217 I got to say my goodbye. Having to travel that far with range anxiety on top of the emotions already faced would be too much for anyone. The last thing you'd want is to get there full of anger for the 'issues' you could have faced during EV charging. Not a common problem I'd agree but something people need to realise/face if they own an EV. Geoff is quite correct in his assertion that an EV *adds* to your woes rather than resolves them. I couldn't give a ratsarse for 'emissions'.
I said the same in an Australian government ad on FB about bushfire emergencies, that you cant carry electricity around in a jerrycan in an emergency.
They need to start DREDGING the rivers again !! ( It was a stupid EU idea to stop doing it.)
Absolutely need to do that from the norfolk broads, to protect the enviroment !?🤣
When I lived in Canada (almost twenty years ago) my Infiniti had a remote starter. Used to start the car while I was brushing my teeth in the mornings. Seat hot, car hot, engine hot, steering wheel all warmed up. Petrol. What are the EV bros on about?
Nothing is new everything has been done.
ay, a small oil furnace was very typical in diesels here in scandinavia before we went EV crazy.
That may be true, but do you want all those fumes outside your house? In colder parts of the US it's often the thing to leave a diesel vehicle running throughout the winter to stop it freezing up. Not really good for the environment.
@@6581punk not really a problem with a modern euro 6 diesel. Ive never had any issue starting mine even in minus 10c weather and it didnt have a furnace. It also didnt sod or smell.
@@6581punkyes I do, I will never have an ev, only a fool would.
My petrol V8 takes less than a minute to warm up due to the built in pre heater.
Loads of premium cars (cheaper 2nd hand than an EV) have them
Yes, when there's a power cut I can use it to charge my phone 👌
Get a power bank, cheaper.
@markgolder995
@therealdojj yes, I did get it.
Bonus! 😂😂😂
When there's a power cut I'll get it to run my house..
L322 4.4 TDV8 has webasto pre heaters
Pre-heating a car - seriously? What a nation of softies we've become, I just dress appropriately for the weather.
I've often wondered what would happen to an EV if left in a flood for a long time
There's a difference between warming your car up before getting in it, and it really warming up before you get in it 🔥🚒
I live in Guernsey. We have 35ft tides over our roads. So that's salt-water in the roads for 15% to 20% of our daily drives, year round. I build boats for a living, ALL of 'em a little leak salt water, just is. Tiny amounts of that will make an EV rather unwell.
I was using my son’s Tesla Model X here in Munich in the Winter. Even in the mild Winter nights where it barely went below 0C it was losing 5% Charge per night. Wasted charge to keep the batteries warm. Also it never had more than ~ 380km range on full charge. My Jag XF Diesel ~ 900km range on a full tank. I was due to drive to my friends in Switzerland to go skiing. Jag was in the shop not sure if it would be ready in time. Son said take the Tesla. It is 600km+ to my friends. Even if fully charged before leaving it Would require 2 full charge stops on the way and then park on his drive for a week in the mountains at minimum -15C. God knows how much charge it would lose sat doing nothing for 6 days at -15C. Then have a similar faff on the way home. Luckily the Jag was ready in time. Could fill up with Diesel at the Austrian/Swiss border giving ~ 900km range. Enough to drive to my friends and back
No EV ever!!!
I live in Canada. Well familiar with the cold. Minus 30° c cold. And when it gets really cold.
I've got a button on my keychain. I push it, the car starts. 5 minutes later even if there's a foot of snow on top of it the car is warmed up inside.
I drive a Kia Soul. That's very far from a luxury automobile. And yet I've got a button to start the car remotely.
My car has heated seats and heated steering wheel.
However if you didn't have heated seats or heated steering wheel you could still go to Canadian Tire and buy a heating thing to put on the seat and the steering wheel. Lots of people do that.
So you don't need a $100,000 automobile which can't handle the cold. We can have something a quarter of that price with the remote start and the heated seats and the heated steering wheel and still be happy even when it's minus 40°
At home I have a lawn mower. And that means I have a gas can in the garage with gas for the lawn mower. And that means I've always got about 5 l of gas in the garage just in case something happens.
So if the entire electrical grid went down and my car for whatever reason happened to be completely out of gas, I still have enough gas in the can in the garage to get out of town should the need arise.
Gasoline. It's the way of the future.
To ensure that future, you need to give Skippy Trudeau his walking papers.
An EV for you would be very dangerous, as the battery is cold it can take on a lot more charge so it will go to 100%. But when you start driving it, the battery warms up and will go over 100%, so you hope the safety system start to recharge it. Also, if you have a very warm garage then charge it when the car hits the cold, the battery will drop a lot of power.
450 miles + from my 8 year old Honda jazz that's 50+ mpg with no stress or worries it's going to burn my house down at night when I'm asleep
Truth and reality left the building years ago.
In Sweden, cars are under cover to keep the snow off, and have an immersion heater in the engine, so the engine is always warm. Just remember to unplug the cable before you drive off! 🤣
You forgot London roads in particular Brent, some of the roads are in shocking condition. Not good for the rigid battery pack
That's why cars have suspension 🙄
Geoff - I had a 2000 BMW 530D (E39) which had an Eberspacher diesel Heater factory fitted that could programmed to pre warm and defrost the car including warming the engine - so for all the EV owner/drivers pre warming a car isn't a new thing.
Some people fit diesel heaters to EVs, it makes a lot of sense as the heaters sip diesel and save the battery.
If bad weather,snow is predicted I always make sure the Landrover is full of diesel. Flooding isn’t an issue where I live.
My MY05 Discovery 3 2.7V6 has a diesel pre-heater...20 mins and its lovely and cosy 👍
Just had an ad for an EV before this started.
No to milk floats!
found the woke vegan /s
Had to drive through very deep water on the way home from work in Monmouth to Bristol on Friday night and my 20 year old Citroen Picasso got me home! The flood was in the middle of nowhere and in an EV I would have been stranded !
Lookout for where the air intake is - and now check your air filter, it could be soggy.
@@G-ra-ha-mthank you ! I will do
why?
EVs are better equipped to wade through flood waters as there's no exhaust pipe that can be flooded and ruin the engine. 😵
@@AcemeistreNothing like filling all your monocoque body sections with water and accelerating corrosion problems thereby shortening the life of the car!
@@Acemeistre @ace ....... BUT ... if you have to go thro' a ford (as in sump of water) in an EV with a lithium battery, there is a vary high risk of a lithium fuelled fire due to the cells shorting out !!!
When I worked in a mountainous area of Germany, we'd see 40 degrees in the afternoon summer sunshine and minus 20 degrees overnight in the winter. Our petrol car always started first twist of the key with little variation in range due to temperature.
With EVs having short range in cold weather and having potentially volatile battery packs if charging when it's hot they are not fit for purpose. That's before you look at the economics...
In an emergency? Do me a favour!
as I noticed with -5°C last morning petrol cars have another benefit more power and torque with cold air, for free, I was at 120kph before the end of a pretty short and steep highway entry lane I'm usually around 80kph my car likes cold a alot !
There is a reason why emergency vehicles are still petrol driven
Some fire engines are EV
@@turokforever007 some
@@turokforever007 not many, majority are still diesel.
@@turokforever007 where and what ev are they using?
I drive a 1989 Toyota Corolla... I was driving it on absolute empty today. The light has been on for close on 100km. I put in R200 emergency petrol to get home at the petrol station next to the 3d print shop. If I had an electric car I would have had to push the thing home.
Edit. The petrol attendant cleaned the windows for which I tipped him R6... well worth the visit.
It's not just the public chargers, if the internet is down, which it would be in any emergency, your EV is a brick.
Why would it be a brick? EVs don’t need to be connected to the internet to work.
@@ajkgordondo the public charging points except cash payments.
@@ajkgordon they do and soon will even more read hyundai bluelink safeguard alerts and know that in one of 2024 navigation updates end user agreement they added a "can be remotely enforced by law" so those aren't and never were made just to prevent a dealership to drive too fast or your son or whatever...those are made to be used against you, that's the entire point of 5G from the start fyi being able to track and control connected cars
@@ajkgordon They do to charge at public chargers.
y'all be running on the assumption that an EV would have a depleted battery at the time of an emergency, when in reality cars are spread out at different levels of fuel or charge regardless of type.
An EV never seems to achieve even the limited mileage it displays once fully charged. Last night I filled up my 1.5dci and the displayed mileage range was 645. When I got home (30 miles later) it was displaying a range of 650. I know, from past experience, that I can comfortably drive 750 miles on a full tank if I drive on a motorway, (avoiding busy times), keep to the speed limit and use cruise control. My extremely reliable French car is 14yrs old, has done 116k miles, is serviced annually by a local independent mechanic, can carry 5 fully grown average sized adults in comfort, (with a full luggage load), and still achieve @ 59mpg on a long run and because I purchased it whilst used ICE cars were still sensibly priced, it's only depreciated by £2k in 6yrs!
It was so warm we couldn't sleep it was 15°c😅😅😅😅😅
He forgot to turn off the central heating ... 😂
Bloody summer in the UK innit??😅
15 degrees C, is a cold winter night down under.
17 in London 😢
@@dickieblench5001 67 here. No, that's my age...🤓
👏 Totally agree Geoff 👍
I drive an old E-Class Merc (S212) and it has a range of at least 1,500 kilometres with one Tank filled with 90 litres of Diesel fuel.
Last year I had to drive to south-east Europe for a job and I drove in a Convoy with a 14 ton truck and a Sprinter van. Which means that I was going with about 90-95km/h. The "low fuel" warning light lit up after more than 2,000 kilometres! I did way over 2,100km on one tank of Diesel.
I don't want an EV and I certainly don't want one in an emergency. You're stuck if an emergency happens when you have no charge. 😔
What would you do in an emergency if your car won't start?
My diesel Land Cruiser as remote start. When it's cold in the morning I start the engine from the comfort of my house, get myself ready and by the time I am ready to go my car is nice and warm and fully defrosted.
I can do that in my VW van, heated mirrors and windscreen. The difference is I can do that in about 2 minutes and I'm off. I'm not then annoying my neighbours who may be trying to sleep or polluting the air.
Unlike an EV, you can’t leave an unoccupied ice vehicle running in a public carpark when it is unoccupied. Bloody wonderful in hot weather to have a cool interior, also helps keep the shopping in good condition.
I used to work with a chap who lived up in Macclesfield. On cold mornings, he used to run an extension lead out across the pavement, and plug a fan heater in, which he put inside the car. "That's where you need it"! He said. He went and had his breakfast while the fan heater warmed up his car outside. Apart from the trip hazard, why not?
Electric vehicles are for those who have always espired to be in the new jaguar advert.
Immediately after the vid..An EV ad extolling their excellence !!
Knobs playing with knobs
Emergency trip to Scotland, emergency trip to France... do you know something we don't? 😂😢
Best to book a one-way only ferry ticket.
Love my Skoda 1.0tsi 55mpg no problem, My neighbour has just had a brand new Audi etron delivered today company car, Would sooner have my reliable Skoda, Take care outthere.
I wonder how an EV drives, through a big flood puddle ?
Wise Words Geoff!
My crappy little Fiat Panda 4x4 twin air has heated seats, mirrors AND windscreen 😂
And the heater blows warm air in about three or four minutes 🤓
Sorted 💥
Gotta love a freezing cold morning 😂👍🥶
I drove a crappy little Fiat panda 2k miles over a weekend including up to the top of the Sierras Nevadas in Spain. The back seat was a hammock in those days. I couldn’t take it on to Gibraltar so I paid some guy to not smash it up and then drove it back to Murcia. It took 12 hours. Poor car 😂
"Freedom" ....... that's the important word and the one that those in charge want to remove from us.
Freedom? Move to Australia, free power between 11-2pm, subsidised home solar and now can use ev to power home in peak and save $$, independence from big companies and all the oil wars!
You could actually jump on the fuel hose line at the gasstation when we were teenages to get up fuel without any pump running :D
Drove to London with a full charge in my EV. Parked up at the hotel, had a nice sleep, went to work the next day, got back in to a warm car, drove half way home, stopped off at a services, went to the loo, waited for my kfc, got back in my car 15 minutes later, drove home, plugged car back in and charged it up over night. Cheap rate during the night cost me £5. Spent £10 at the services charging on tesla fast charger. 400 mile round trip and then enough charge to do it all again. Didnt have to stand at the petrol station in the wind waiting with my hand on the pump to fill it up. You stick to your old diesel cars, i’ll drive around in a brilliant car that does whatever i need it to and more and have fun doing it as well.
His point was about an emergency scenario, when an the potential for failure in an EV is very high, the Tesla sounds great when there is no drama.
There are plenty of things you can fit to pre-heat a car - a plug in cooling water heater, a Webasto-type integrated fuel-burning heater, or a Chinese diesel fuelled air blower.
I've said it before , but I don't even want an electric toothbrush
American Clif High on X and SubStack was asked years ago by a friend if he wanted to take a ride in early Tesla. Clif has been a high level programmer for 30 years and is really smart. Clif told his friend, let me grab an EMF (electromagnetic frequency) meter first. He said the numbers were off the charts. He told his friend he would never ride in one. Clif said EV's are like driving around in a microwave.
I’ve driven from Kent to Scotland in my V70 2.4T petrol classic and still had a nearly 1/4 of a tank left 😊
Warm car to get into sounds a bit nancy to me. The VW's warmed up in two miles and being warm dont limit my milage.
I don’t use it for comfort. I use it so that the windows and mirrors are ice and condensation free.
In Scandinavia, these cars did have a Diesel heater option, quite rare now but they are out there.
In Germany, 40+ years ago. I drilled a small hole in the kitchen window frame and passed a cable through. Placed a 100w lead lamp in the driver's footwell of an evening. Come the morning, kettle on, plug in the lamp and the car was defrosted by he time I had finished by breakfast.
Definitely agree with you Geoff on being prepared. Both cars are brimmed and I have a small cache of fuel somewhere safe, which I rotate periodically.
I used to hang a hairdryer from the mirror to pre heat my car. Sorted!
AGREE 110% NO QUESTION !!
Before ULEZ and when I was working I had a 2008 BMW 330d touring. I put a plug socket on the drive that I could control from inside the house. I had a small fan heater velcrowed to the rear seat arm rest set to low heat. When I pulled up on the drive in the evening would plug it in and close and lock the car up. When I got up in the morning I would flick the switch inside the house which would start the fan heater inside the car. Have a have a coffee for 15 min or so and on the way out to work turn the outside plug off, unlock the car and put the heater plug lead back inside the car. The windows were defrosted and the inside was as warm as toast. Never had to scrape the ice of the windows again!
For £80, diesel heater in the boot! Little space needed. Heat on, remote or timed to warm the full car up, melt any snow. Love mine in the van 🤙🏻🫡
Looks like someone spilled all the Worcester Sauce in the streets!
My old Hyundai terrican will go through anything, snow, no problem. Flooding again no problem. Best car I've ever owned.
Great vid as usual Geoff - I love the way as soon as your vid finished and the next one, from Furious Driving; was an advert for the full electric BMW range. Yeah… I don’t think so 😅
I’ve lived in Munich for the last 20+ years and also was here in the early 90’s. Winters pretty cold going down to -20C. Even in the 90’s some germans had “Motor pre-heaters” “Standheizung” on their cars that they could set on a timer. Could hear them running on the street first thing in the dark minus “lots” winter mornings. Still available now controllable over your phone.
They also get warm when the battery catches fire 😂
The fact is we only have maybe 15 days of real hard frost so a cold car doesn't bother me as I spend half my life outdoors so
No problem for me.
I love the colour of that Volvo but it needs a TDI so be the ideal workhorse as a V70 TDI can do nearly 20mpg more.
Another lovely Volvo,,,
Twas trying to convince my mate to buy a very clean 2.4litre convertible on market place last week,,, lovely volvos....
In Mad Max, fuel was as important as water
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I love my fuel burning heater. Best of both worlds. 🎉🎉🎉
The thumbnail, I was there today and wondered what the traffic lights were for. I went left towards Eastham Bridge where the road was blocked with abandoned vehicles, presumably stuck in flood water from last week, had to turn around.
What an absolute rubbish. I had petrol and diesel cars since 1999 and remember very well situations where I came back home on reserve (10-20 miles of range) , didn’t stop for petrol cause I was late/ or rushing back home. The. Next morning something comes up and I cannot go because I need a 15 min detour to get petrol! Happened multiple times, especially in UK where services are 60-80 miles apart so you can’t hit the motorway and tank there.
Now on my third year with EV, I have my own petrol station at home so I wake up full, with car ready to go, defrosted and seats nice and warm. There’s more! Guess how many minutes I have to stand outside holding a nozzle to “fill up”?? That’s right , entire fu** all minutes.
Well said.
I get 48-49mpg from my 1.5 DCI Duster and it’s warm enough to defrost the windscreen in a couple of minutes.
Some ev's turn into boats in floods. So there's a plus, still usable in floods as long as you carry an outboard in the boot.
Have you all seen the “call a general election” petition (apart from them being useless and not wanting the tories anyway ) there are 2 million signatures !
Nothing will actually happen though!😢
Wow that's 4 million less than the anti Brexit one.
@@esm7708 it was only posted 5 days ago so if they let it run it will be the same as that one
@@MissDelia and like the Brexit one it'll come to nothing...
Love the EV brigade, they think they are the first ever people who can pre heat their cars. I had that 30 years ago in my works van. Just stick a pre heater on your diesel, works wonders.
You can always install an engine block heater and a timer switch.
I bought cheap diesel in Valencia, 1€ 22 centimos / litre, filled the van and 40 litres in jerry cans.
I made it all the way back to Dover, ~1600km, bypassing expensive French diesel, (about 2€/ltr) and then refuelled at the Tesco supermarket above Dover. £1.42/ltr.
The jerry cans were emptied before boarding the ferry.
Freedom to drive.
(Moved from somewhere in all the replies).
Best of both worlds: an electric pre heater for radiator coolant ( Swedish style) . Prompt heat on a cold day but petrol/diesel practicality and no EV rubbish.
I live in a quiet rural area and if I need to go anywhere on a cold, frosty morning I have a special tool that allows me to heat and defrost my 2004 Honda Accord while I enjoy my coffee in the kitchen. It's called the spare key. 🔑
Ev ambulances must be a joy. 😂
My SAAB 93 ha electric seats.2 mins had my knuts humming !
I would just like to mention EV milage is drastically reduced in cold weather while petrol and diesel cars are not affected. You lose milage on EV's just by putting your heating and lights on.
Heating your EV per starting your journey only reduces the range by a number of % points when that range will also been compromised by the cold weather so a stated range of 240 miles may be reduced to below 200 or less! Where as in an ICE vehicle heating it is only a by product of it running on the road with no loss of range!
Fitted a diesel heater to the Landy, 🔥 🌡
£110 Full remote and timer function 😊
Used it about four times last year.... 🤷♂️
Weather has not been strange. Birds falling out the sky onto cruise ships is sinister. Someone knows.
I have a remote heater on my Volvo V60, a diesel auxiliary Webasto I can set on the car clock, or go through the app on the phone. It's brilliant and means not needing to idle the car to warm it up.
I don't know how i'd enjoy wading through flood water with a high voltage battery under my backside. It's bad enough with an air filter inlet awareness.
If it is cold, just start the "ICY" engine & let it warm up in the driveway for 5 minutes before departure...If your "ICY" car warms up slowly, you need to check or replace the thermostat! Possibly one that fully opens at a higher temp!
On another note Geoff on Jaguar....How to make friends and influence people whilst killing the brand 😂😂😂😂
Can you imagine having drained your battery to get home and putting on your home charger, then having a family emergency and not having the power to drive to it
Imagine having all but emptied your tank on the drive home.
Then having a family emergency in the middle of the night and the nearest 24 hour petrol station is too far away!😢
I would stop at a nearby Rapid charger for 10 minutes and load 100 miles of range, much like I would do the same with an empty petrol car and go to a nearby petrol station for a few litres. That EV top-up might be a couple of minutes slower, but it's far from your vividly imagined disaster.
Some EV's spontanyously warm up quite a lot 😄
best to remain home, for your safety and convenience
If you want it preheated internally just pop a fan heater in the back for 5 mins
Never want an EV I live on top of a big hill now no floods for me!!
I passed two cars on the M42 last Monday , you could not see in and the drivers could not see out of any window. One wiping a small hole to see forwwards. Windows were soaking wet Very dangerous. But that is having no heater. Either energy saving or car shutting it down.
Solar pv is best solution in a mad max world.
"once it's warm, stays warm" - so you're insinuating that an EV doesn't stay warm - (whispers) lliiiaaaarrrrrr 😂
My 2007 Range Rover has a remote that allows me to start it from in the house to warm it up. Also it has a 500 mile range in the cold or heat.
The unexpected always happens when you least expect it, imagine your EV is on your drive with 5% charge and now charging as you have been out all day in it then you get an emergency phone call and you have to be at a certain hospital a good distance away, if you only have the one car then you're fooked and would be questioning yourself why did I buy an EV?
Geoff, all I want is BRITAIN back, limited immigration, free speech, freedom of choice. Warm up, I remember wearing a flying jacket in my daily Morris 8! I really enjoy my CLK convertible but I do not support these gimmicks fitted on modern cars. I support modern technology but not when it becomes a source of failure which so many breakdowns are. I have never and never will vote for a dictator.
With floods imminent now, I would love to have Roger Moore's Lotus Esprit S1 sports AKA "Wet Nellie" , created for The Spy Who Loved Me. Lovely Lotus Esprit S1 sports car.