It's always nice to see an integrated amp with just the barebone analog inputs. If you use a streamer or outboard DAC, you aren't overpaying for an unused digital section.
The CD50n is $300 more expensive than the ND8006 was. Inside both they are almost identical. For that $300 price bump I was hoping for SACD capability. That would have made the 50n a more well rounded product. Also, HEOS really needs to add Qobuz.
Love the pm 8006 for price and built in Japan ' love the midrange tone control as well And 8006 is an imaging monster But Marantz always does step it up ! Owned many Marantz Amps and the brighter sounding Denon ' thanks for the video ' I wouldn't mind getting a teleprompter 😊
I am on the opposite side - wanted to accompany my Cinema 50 with an integrated amp, yet eventually allowing a stand alone usage. Model 50 being pure analog is a big let down for me. I don't understand constant jumps of Marantz between the analog and digital - just consider Model 30 vs 40n vs 50 vs 70s. With such a weak connectivity, Marantz pushes you to buy both units, which, in the end, is some $3600 and hence even more expensive, than 40n. Well, you get CD as a bonus, but many of my friends abandoned CDs long time ago.
Thanks for the review. I'm still looking though for a SACD + Class AB amp combo. There is an SACD 30n but is tuned for the Model 30 ... which is a class D amp (Hypex NCore) Would be nice to see an SACD 50n tuned for Model 50 (which is a class AB amp).
Wow... great price points too compared to Model30 / SACD30n (obviously, does not play SACDs). I can't seem to find what class the A runs at ? Model30 is Class D...
Still it is a bit confusing. 40n amp with 60 cd costs in UK 2200+850 3050£. 50 amp with 50 cd costs 3200£ (1600 each). As far as I can tell they removed the streamer from the amp and inserted in the cd, actually I watched the release of these online and they said that the cd mechanism is same as 60cd. The only plus I can see is that the 40n has only power amp inputs and sub out whereas the 50 has power amp in sub out and pre outs. The amplifier seems the same as the 40n.
I was told by another UA-cam reviewer that the streamer in the 50n is significantly better than the one in the 40N and the separates are worth the price of admission.
Wow, that is a blast from the past. We remember those as needing TONS of power. 200 watts of solid power minimum. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss the best options, Rotel, Athem, and McIntosh all make products that will drive them well or if you have a unit with front preamp outs, you could just add a high powered power amp. Thanks for watching.
@@jeroenscholten2179 Ok, thanks for sharing. That Pioneer was a gem and before the time when they got into the low THD race and made everything as harsh as nails.
@@jeroenscholten2179 i have both Rega Brio and Sansui AU 317 and i like them a lot, you think pm8006 is closer to them than Model 50 in sound signature?
It's always nice to see an integrated amp with just the barebone analog inputs. If you use a streamer or outboard DAC, you aren't overpaying for an unused digital section.
Absolutely! Thanks for sharing!
Finally!! Been waiting to get these in-hand. Great review team!
Hope you enjoy it!
Very well done 👍
Many thanks!
Very cool Marantz pieces. You can tell they packed a lot under the hood.
Absolutely! Thanks for watching!
These new models look like a great value for the features and build quality.
They sure are!
These look pretty sick. The CD player looks more like a pre-amp than just a CD player.
They are great!
Terrific video. This is a great price point and the look is very sleek and not cluttered.
Thanks so much! We appreciate your comments and totally agree!
The CD50n is $300 more expensive than the ND8006 was. Inside both they are almost identical. For that $300 price bump I was hoping for SACD capability. That would have made the 50n a more well rounded product. Also, HEOS really needs to add Qobuz.
Agreed, that would have been a nice feature.
sadly NO SACD!
Love the looks of that integrated
Same! Thanks for watching
I love the sound of my 40n and the look… now if they would get ROON ready like they said they would… it would be the perfect system.
Agreed!
Excellent. Now we're gonna need a Model 10 with at least 150W into 8Ω & 300W into 4Ω to drive speakers like the Kef R11 Meta.
Yes, good choice!
Love the visual design!
Us too!
Very impressive!
Thank you! Cheers!
My brother just bought these to run his focals
How does he like it and thanks for sharing!
Looks like a great upgrade from the PM8006!
Sure is! Thanks for watching 😁
You should compare them first, you'll be, probably, disappointed about the Model 50.
They simply look superb! Do they have the front panel side lights like in the 40'S and 30's series? Thanks!
Glad you like them, yes they are the same. Thanks for watching
Nice overview
Thanks!
Love the pm 8006 for price and built in Japan ' love the midrange tone control as well
And 8006 is an imaging monster But Marantz always does step it up ! Owned many Marantz Amps and the brighter sounding Denon ' thanks for the video ' I wouldn't mind getting a teleprompter 😊
Thanks for sharing!
ESS 9038 Q2M sold for less that 20$ at aliexpress. I'm sure it will be hard to beat for my Chord DACS 🤣🤣🤣
Fair enough. Thanks for watching
I am on the opposite side - wanted to accompany my Cinema 50 with an integrated amp, yet eventually allowing a stand alone usage. Model 50 being pure analog is a big let down for me. I don't understand constant jumps of Marantz between the analog and digital - just consider Model 30 vs 40n vs 50 vs 70s. With such a weak connectivity, Marantz pushes you to buy both units, which, in the end, is some $3600 and hence even more expensive, than 40n. Well, you get CD as a bonus, but many of my friends abandoned CDs long time ago.
That is true. These will not be for everyone. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review.
I'm still looking though for a SACD + Class AB amp combo.
There is an SACD 30n but is tuned for the Model 30 ... which is a class D amp (Hypex NCore)
Would be nice to see an SACD 50n tuned for Model 50 (which is a class AB amp).
Fair enough, hopefully they will make what you're looking for!
Why you can't use the SACD 30n on the Model 50?
@@JohnSmith-zl8rzI think the point is that the 30n is tuned warm for the cooler 30. So that on the already warm 50 wouldn't be good synergy
Wow... great price points too compared to Model30 / SACD30n (obviously, does not play SACDs). I can't seem to find what class the A runs at ? Model30 is Class D...
Chat with our team at audioadvice.com and they can help you with any specs you are interested in!
Will the model 50 pair well with the Wharfdale Linton Heritage ?
It should, those are medium/high sensitivity. Thanks for watching
Excellent review but seriously bro start with the price. Maybe thats the strategy to make me look. Anyway the cd unit looks worthy.
Fair enough!
Between this 50 and stereo 70s 2 ch, which you think is a better choice to listen music only? Thanks
The 50 sounds better. If you can swing it, it will be better for 2 channel. Thanks for watching
Still it is a bit confusing. 40n amp with 60 cd costs in UK 2200+850 3050£. 50 amp with 50 cd costs 3200£ (1600 each). As far as I can tell they removed the streamer from the amp and inserted in the cd, actually I watched the release of these online and they said that the cd mechanism is same as 60cd. The only plus I can see is that the 40n has only power amp inputs and sub out whereas the 50 has power amp in sub out and pre outs. The amplifier seems the same as the 40n.
Model 50 is the new version of the PM8006, 100% analogue... it is not based on model40n...
@@michel7878 same amp class AB 70W 8Ω/100W 4Ω maybe some components are different but same amp section. they just removed the dac section.
This is correct
I was told by another UA-cam reviewer that the streamer in the 50n is significantly better than the one in the 40N and the separates are worth the price of admission.
Will the model 50 handle my Infinity Kappa 9's?
Wow, that is a blast from the past. We remember those as needing TONS of power. 200 watts of solid power minimum. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss the best options, Rotel, Athem, and McIntosh all make products that will drive them well or if you have a unit with front preamp outs, you could just add a high powered power amp. Thanks for watching.
How much $ could a plastic cd drawer save over a metal one?
Plastic is much cheaper and easier to accidentally break.
we buy for cd sound output via rca,,, drive mech seems identical to cd60,,, cd6007,,, huh,,,, how has sound improved ,,,just cd pls
If you are going out of the analog RCA jacks, DACs keep getting better.
Can it handle the polk r700 towers
Yes, in a small to medium sized room. They are a bit hard to drive and you might need more in a larger space
Marantz model 50 o Denon PMA-1700NE?
The Model 50 really rocks! If you want more comparison, feel free to call or chat with our experts at audioadvice.com!
Hi there. Did you try Marantz or Denon yet?
The CD 50n costs 1800 $. Why he couldn't play SACDs? Nothing for me!!😟. What are the Companys thinking? Should we throw our SACDs away?
We do wish it played SACD's. Marantz does offer other options for that though.
I bought the Marantz Model 50. I returned it, too bright in the upper mid-range. Not an amp I can listen to for long periods.
Interesting, what did you have before?
@@AudioAdvice Rega Brio, Sansui AU 317, Pioneer SA 8100
@@jeroenscholten2179 Ok, thanks for sharing. That Pioneer was a gem and before the time when they got into the low THD race and made everything as harsh as nails.
@@jeroenscholten2179 i have both Rega Brio and Sansui AU 317 and i like them a lot, you think pm8006 is closer to them than Model 50 in sound signature?
No Moving Coil, Only Moving Magnet
Thanks for sharing
The cd drive looks cheap, made in vietnam. Still less expensive than the newest Teac VRDS 701
It's actually pretty good build quality in person. We would have loved to see a heavier duty drive too.
Thank you for review...now i know not to waste money buying Marantz
They are not for everyone!
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Get rid of the Bass / Treble / Balance controls and I'd love one
You don't like the access to those on the front?
@@AudioAdvice I don't like that they are there at all
Fair enough!
Very impressive!
Thank you! Cheers!