SHORT: Thanks a lot for taking the time to use these bags and review. Mostly for your candor while talking about the bags. I would honestly suggest you start using affiliate links/codes for the bags you like & recommend. As long as you keep being honest and not just promoting stuff to make money (like others do), I see no problem in you using affiliate. For example, now I'm going to buy this bag and I'd like to retribute your effort into putting time for it by using your code, but you don't seem to have one. So get it, It will bring you some money and help you keep on with the channel and more people will benefit. I explain more below in case you feel like reading. ______________________________________________________________ LONG: I've been researching about this bag for the past week, I literally watched some 50 videos about bags, yours were the most honest (sometimes rough hahaha). So I watched almost all your other reviews just to get a comparison and consider other options. I'm the kind of guy who doesn't like buying stuff in general. I'm an expat, I move every few years and I hate accumulating shit. So whenever I need to buy something I do a lot of research until I find someone honest enough to talk about the problems. So I can weight in and consider. I'm going with this back because I like the big main pocket and I understand the compromises. As I said, I honestly suggest you use some affiliate/promos (in this case you can easily get on their website) for the bags you APPROVE and recommend (I saw some you don't even post the link to buy - that's awesome). You saved me from almost making a big mistake and getting the Nomatic for example. So I would easily use a code now so the company gives you a commission that for me as a customer is very valuable: I have this honest guy on youtube who's a cyclist and test bags for months a post reviews on youtube. If I ever need or know someone that needs to buy a bag from now onwards, the first thing I'd do would be coming here and seeing if you have a review about. So get some affiliate man ,get some extra $ coming in at least as "symbol" reward for the work. Cheers, all the best,
I appreciate the feedback, and I'm glad I was able to help you make a purchase. I'm afraid I'm a bit too honest for any major brand to assist me in any way. I honestly prefer it that way. I don't really do this as a source of income, this is more of a hobby. As I've been growing a bit, I'm getting more and more emails from junk-brands trying to send me bags to "review". Based on what they say in their emails I know for a fact that they haven't watched a minute of my content, and haven't a clue what kind of bags I use. I figured they just check my channel metrics, and spit out a template email if meet whatever criteria they're scrubbing for. I can see how some UA-camrs can get lured into becoming presenters vs actual reviewers. But I'm good where I am. Thanks for watching.
Hi Rafael, Thank you for your purchase. We hope that the bag met your expectations! :) Hat's off to HumorousMaximus for his honest take on our PRIMA SYSTEM PACK.
Great review. I was considering this bag now I’m sold. Where did you get that Tech Pouch? Can’t find it at Peaksesign and I want one of those too. It’s a killer pouch.
Thanks for the video. Do you find that having the laptop compartment on the back like that pushes the back father away from your back and carries the weight strangely? My wife has a camera bag set up like that and she wasn’t in love with it
I don’t recall that being an issue for me. Most packs have a tendency to feel stiff with a laptop pressed up against your back. It’ll bother some more than others.
Hey dude, I recently purchased this bag but I might return it because it seems over engineered for me. A big issue I'm having is that I don't like how the shoulder adjustment straps that I hold down the shoulder straps. I feel like there's no need for them at all. This ever bother you?
Hi, first of all thanks for the reviews. your reviews are the most honest and thorough I've seen so far. From what I saw (all of your videos and some internet\web search) I think the Prima's one fits me the best but it has a small downside, its not waterproof. I need a backpack that can hold exactly the things that you described (I bike to work and need to change clothes and have my laptop gear) in this video but I need it to withstand lots of rain since I live in a very rainy area. any suggestions, have you tested the Osprey bags?
Thanks! Okay so it’s important to distinguish waterproof (can submerge in water) and water resistant (can handle some rain). The only bag I’ve had that withstood some serious rain without taking on moisture was the Peleton Ashpalt from Life Behind Bars. But full disclosure, my water testing is not really consistent. If it rains when I ride I’ll count it, but it really varies. Most bags I’ve had take on moisture, where the outer shell absorbs some water, therefore the internals feel very humid. Have not tried Osprey, the look of their bags don’t really do it for me.
It’s just where I keep my gum, so it serves as a good test for water repellency. If it effects that pocket then it would effect the rest of the pack. Same materials and build.
Did you find the bag was too heavy on its own? Did you find the shoulder straps broke in at all? l ordered on but might return it due to the concerns above.
What are your thoughts on this as a travel bag? The site states it can do 30L. I am tempted, 30L is good travel capacity, the water resistant feature would be handy, and with the roll top nature once you unload everything at the hotel it becomes a day bag. Think this could hack it?
I'm very interested in the LBB Peloton Asphalt and really appreciate the review you did on it. Its closest competition for me is the Prima system backpack. Given build quality, expandability, ease of use and general value. Do you have a preference now since your past reviews?
I used it up until my review after that I moved onto another bag. I eventually sold it, not for anything bad but there was just an opportunity and I took it. I had no major issues with the pack.
Hi, real nice review! Especially since it's long term, which is always more insightful IMO. I have a question tho. If you don't use the verge case, the side zipper is a great way to access the main compartment. However, is there some way to avoid pickpockets to use misuse this easy accessibility, at times when I feel I need to secure it? Thanks and keep it up!
Hello... I love your bag reviews I have watched nearly all of them, and I was wondering where you stand with messenger bags? Can't wait to,see the long term review of the alchemy equipment bag.
I’m not the biggest fan of the messenger form factor. I think they’re designed to hold big volumes without much organization. I haven’t excluded them completely though. I’ve been close to buying the Echelon Messenger from Life Behind Bars. I’m a huge fan of their stuff. Thanks for watching!
Whats your best recommendation for a tech back pack? I was sold on the nomatic backpack till I saw your video. I want a backpack that can carry 1, 13 inch computer and two 17 inch portable monitors. Of course the pack would also need organization for cords charger note pad etc? I can't seem to find a single back pack that is made to carry more than just 1 laptop.
To be honest, I’d just lean on the bags that have high organization scores. Like the Ogio Renegade or something. You have some very specific needs. Take a few mins and check out what I’ve used, maybe something will click for you.
I join all the compliments and the detailed review. I just sometimes find weird the stuffs you pack, like this bike locker in the water compartment ? Or working pants and shirt instead of gym clothes and the fully mechanical keyboard for a laptop. Was it only a way to show the capacity? Because otherwise it feels very weird. Also, why not using the sleeve and putting a charger ( rather than a portable small power bank )in the main access pocket ? It seems to me hard to believe that you would need it quickly. From the review it’s clear you know a lot, but when I see this packing layout I start wondering about the utility of carting such stuffs.
I ride my bike to work, so everything I carry revolves around that. I’m not going to pack gym clothes and sweat all over my work clothes during my bike commute. My keyboard comes with me on weekends, so it goes in the pack. I already talked about why I don’t use the sleeve, feel free to give it another listen. Thanks for watching.
Great vid, honest review which is cool. Have you ever considered designing your own backpack? Your load out is similar to mine and I'm sure a lot of people (besides the nail clippers lol)
Hi, Can you confirm if the laptop sleeve a tthe back will fit a 17.3" laptop? really interested to get this bag but the size of the laptop sleeze is key for me as i'll be using it as my day to day office/ work travel use. Thanks in advance.
Thank you for the long term review. All t cool bags are expensive, nag reviews are rare as it is, and long term reviews are even rarer. When you were describing what you were expecting out of “water repellant”, I’m feeling like you’re expecting it to be waterproof. Water repellant is exactly that, they are resistant to water up to a point. Getting caught in medium rain for 15 minutes would wet out the fabric I would think.
Water resistance vs waterproof is a distinction I’m VERY aware of. No confusion here. Boundary is actually using the term “storm proof” now, what does it mean, and how is that different than “water resistant/repellent, weatherproof? Who the heck knows, it’s even more marketing jargon. 15-20 mins in medium rain was endured by the Peloton. Fabric was not wet, no moisture inside either. That bag is also labeled as weatherproof. I have so many questions...
Great review! i was on the fence of adding this since I already have an order in for the errant pack. You mentioned in it your review, are you also a backer?
Thanks! I did back the Errant. I picked up the XPAC Grey, I think those are supposed to start shipping out next week. Probably won’t see it until after new year though.
Hi idk if you’re still gonna respond a little later but I recently have been watching you and I love your reviews as they are truly honest and come from a real consumers point of view. I don’t know whether to choose the Pelotan Asphalt or the Prima backpack. I’m a student so I will need to carry books as well as my laptop and other materials. Which do you recommend?
They’re both pretty similar actually, size wise. Peloton has a little more organization but it’s a louder bag, with all the Velcro. Both high quality materials and good build. Peloton can expand to 40L I believe, and has a bunch of external straps to attach even more stuff on the outside.
@@HumorousMaximus OK, their site lists dimension, but not internal as far as I can tell. My impression is the bag (takes more then the Errant) but it's deceptive in its capacity moreover the main compartment curves and as you pack it becomes increasingly difficult to close the top.
@@HumorousMaximus damn dude that axiom video really sold me on the xpac material but I'm thinking the prima's features and style are more of what I'm needing. Alright dude I put a pre-order for the prima xpac in multi cam 😍. Thanks again dude I'll keep checking in to support the channel!
HumorousMaximus nah man, the review is good its just that for a sec there I though I was glitching out. I think its awesome you even find the time to produce videos at all, and your criticisms are always fair
How funny that you're using a peak design bag instead of the boundary portfolio. I bought the prima, but using it is just a pain. It's not very well organized and the straps sit at a bad angle on my shoulders. It's just sitting in a closet.
![Errant X-PAC Backpack First (and last) Impressions [2019]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w_nE16jK3qY/mqdefault.jpg)
![Is the Boundary Supply Prima System worth it? [HONEST REVIEW]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/h-mG4oLNWPM/mqdefault.jpg)
I just realized I edited out my organization score, my mistake. Scores are as follows:
Organization - 7, Materials 7, Build Quality 8
SHORT:
Thanks a lot for taking the time to use these bags and review. Mostly for your candor while talking about the bags.
I would honestly suggest you start using affiliate links/codes for the bags you like & recommend. As long as you keep being honest and not just promoting stuff to make money (like others do), I see no problem in you using affiliate.
For example, now I'm going to buy this bag and I'd like to retribute your effort into putting time for it by using your code, but you don't seem to have one. So get it, It will bring you some money and help you keep on with the channel and more people will benefit. I explain more below in case you feel like reading.
______________________________________________________________
LONG:
I've been researching about this bag for the past week, I literally watched some 50 videos about bags, yours were the most honest (sometimes rough hahaha). So I watched almost all your other reviews just to get a comparison and consider other options.
I'm the kind of guy who doesn't like buying stuff in general. I'm an expat, I move every few years and I hate accumulating shit. So whenever I need to buy something I do a lot of research until I find someone honest enough to talk about the problems. So I can weight in and consider.
I'm going with this back because I like the big main pocket and I understand the compromises.
As I said, I honestly suggest you use some affiliate/promos (in this case you can easily get on their website) for the bags you APPROVE and recommend (I saw some you don't even post the link to buy - that's awesome).
You saved me from almost making a big mistake and getting the Nomatic for example. So I would easily use a code now so the company gives you a commission that for me as a customer is very valuable: I have this honest guy on youtube who's a cyclist and test bags for months a post reviews on youtube.
If I ever need or know someone that needs to buy a bag from now onwards, the first thing I'd do would be coming here and seeing if you have a review about. So get some affiliate man ,get some extra $ coming in at least as "symbol" reward for the work.
Cheers, all the best,
I appreciate the feedback, and I'm glad I was able to help you make a purchase. I'm afraid I'm a bit too honest for any major brand to assist me in any way. I honestly prefer it that way. I don't really do this as a source of income, this is more of a hobby.
As I've been growing a bit, I'm getting more and more emails from junk-brands trying to send me bags to "review". Based on what they say in their emails I know for a fact that they haven't watched a minute of my content, and haven't a clue what kind of bags I use. I figured they just check my channel metrics, and spit out a template email if meet whatever criteria they're scrubbing for. I can see how some UA-camrs can get lured into becoming presenters vs actual reviewers. But I'm good where I am. Thanks for watching.
Hi Rafael,
Thank you for your purchase. We hope that the bag met your expectations! :) Hat's off to HumorousMaximus for his honest take on our PRIMA SYSTEM PACK.
i have seen a lot of backpack reviewing channels, but yours is always the best in getting a really honest review based on a real experience
Excellent review! One request: it's kind of hard to hear you. I'm future videos, if you can increase the output volume, that would be awesome.
Thanks for the feedback. I have been thinking about buying a mic of some kind, but I’m still unsure how this UA-cam thing is going to play out.
Get a rode mic. Some are cheap, but they all work VERY well
Audio is relatively fine. I use a pretty good set of headphones. Not bothered by the low audio as you noted here.
Hi there wat is the brand for the pouch u had belted on the strap? Its a very minimal and good looking one.
Great review. I was considering this bag now I’m sold.
Where did you get that Tech Pouch? Can’t find it at Peaksesign and I want one of those too. It’s a killer pouch.
It’s the original Field Pouch, they have newer version of it now. Still my favorite pouch.
Thanks for the video. Do you find that having the laptop compartment on the back like that pushes the back father away from your back and carries the weight strangely? My wife has a camera bag set up like that and she wasn’t in love with it
I don’t recall that being an issue for me. Most packs have a tendency to feel stiff with a laptop pressed up against your back. It’ll bother some more than others.
Great review! How do you think this one comparing with your AEL222?
Hey dude, I recently purchased this bag but I might return it because it seems over engineered for me. A big issue I'm having is that I don't like how the shoulder adjustment straps that I hold down the shoulder straps. I feel like there's no need for them at all. This ever bother you?
From the start it's very obvious that you know exactly what your talking about. Great review - got yourself a sub 👍
Hi, first of all thanks for the reviews. your reviews are the most honest and thorough I've seen so far. From what I saw (all of your videos and some internet\web search) I think the Prima's one fits me the best but it has a small downside, its not waterproof. I need a backpack that can hold exactly the things that you described (I bike to work and need to change clothes and have my laptop gear) in this video but I need it to withstand lots of rain since I live in a very rainy area. any suggestions, have you tested the Osprey bags?
Thanks!
Okay so it’s important to distinguish waterproof (can submerge in water) and water resistant (can handle some rain). The only bag I’ve had that withstood some serious rain without taking on moisture was the Peleton Ashpalt from Life Behind Bars. But full disclosure, my water testing is not really consistent. If it rains when I ride I’ll count it, but it really varies. Most bags I’ve had take on moisture, where the outer shell absorbs some water, therefore the internals feel very humid. Have not tried Osprey, the look of their bags don’t really do it for me.
@@HumorousMaximus tanks for answering. Have a great day!
When you said you got caught in the middle rain , only the top part got oddly damp ? What about the rest of the bag ?
E.g. laptop compartment , middle zipper , side zipper
It’s just where I keep my gum, so it serves as a good test for water repellency. If it effects that pocket then it would effect the rest of the pack. Same materials and build.
Did you find the bag was too heavy on its own? Did you find the shoulder straps broke in at all? l ordered on but might return it due to the concerns above.
I have a hard time recalling specifics, if it was a big enough issue I’m sure I would have brought it up in my review.
What are your thoughts on this as a travel bag? The site states it can do 30L. I am tempted, 30L is good travel capacity, the water resistant feature would be handy, and with the roll top nature once you unload everything at the hotel it becomes a day bag. Think this could hack it?
I think it can work. Lots of space inside with some expansion with the flap.
I'm very interested in the LBB Peloton Asphalt and really appreciate the review you did on it. Its closest competition for me is the Prima system backpack. Given build quality, expandability, ease of use and general value. Do you have a preference now since your past reviews?
I would lean towards the Prima. Magnets vs Velcro... also LBB likes to use plastic, instead of a nice mesh for interior pockets.
Are you still using the bag and is it keeping up well? No issues?
I used it up until my review after that I moved onto another bag. I eventually sold it, not for anything bad but there was just an opportunity and I took it. I had no major issues with the pack.
For short trip travel bag, which one do you prefer? The prima or the ael222?
Prima
Hi, real nice review! Especially since it's long term, which is always more insightful IMO. I have a question tho. If you don't use the verge case, the side zipper is a great way to access the main compartment. However, is there some way to avoid pickpockets to use misuse this easy accessibility, at times when I feel I need to secure it? Thanks and keep it up!
There's no tamper prevention system in place for this bag. Standard zippers throughout. Side pocket is amazing for side access.
Hello...
I love your bag reviews I have watched nearly all of them, and I was wondering where you stand with messenger bags? Can't wait to,see the long term review of the alchemy equipment bag.
I’m not the biggest fan of the messenger form factor. I think they’re designed to hold big volumes without much organization. I haven’t excluded them completely though. I’ve been close to buying the Echelon Messenger from Life Behind Bars. I’m a huge fan of their stuff. Thanks for watching!
Whats your best recommendation for a tech back pack? I was sold on the nomatic backpack till I saw your video. I want a backpack that can carry 1, 13 inch computer and two 17 inch portable monitors. Of course the pack would also need organization for cords charger note pad etc? I can't seem to find a single back pack that is made to carry more than just 1 laptop.
To be honest, I’d just lean on the bags that have high organization scores. Like the Ogio Renegade or something. You have some very specific needs. Take a few mins and check out what I’ve used, maybe something will click for you.
I join all the compliments and the detailed review. I just sometimes find weird the stuffs you pack, like this bike locker in the water compartment ? Or working pants and shirt instead of gym clothes and the fully mechanical keyboard for a laptop. Was it only a way to show the capacity? Because otherwise it feels very weird. Also, why not using the sleeve and putting a charger ( rather than a portable small power bank )in the main access pocket ? It seems to me hard to believe that you would need it quickly. From the review it’s clear you know a lot, but when I see this packing layout I start wondering about the utility of carting such stuffs.
I ride my bike to work, so everything I carry revolves around that. I’m not going to pack gym clothes and sweat all over my work clothes during my bike commute. My keyboard comes with me on weekends, so it goes in the pack. I already talked about why I don’t use the sleeve, feel free to give it another listen.
Thanks for watching.
Great vid, honest review which is cool. Have you ever considered designing your own backpack? Your load out is similar to mine and I'm sure a lot of people (besides the nail clippers lol)
Hi,
Can you confirm if the laptop sleeve a tthe back will fit a 17.3" laptop? really interested to get this bag but the size of the laptop sleeze is key for me as i'll be using it as my day to day office/ work travel use.
Thanks in advance.
I cannot, sorry. I sold the bag a while ago. I’d suggest you email them directly.
@@HumorousMaximus did you replace the bag with something more practical/better?
I use different bags pretty regularly. My most recent video is usually a good indication of what I’m currently using.
Thank you for the long term review. All t cool bags are expensive, nag reviews are rare as it is, and long term reviews are even rarer. When you were describing what you were expecting out of “water repellant”, I’m feeling like you’re expecting it to be waterproof. Water repellant is exactly that, they are resistant to water up to a point. Getting caught in medium rain for 15 minutes would wet out the fabric I would think.
Water resistance vs waterproof is a distinction I’m VERY aware of. No confusion here. Boundary is actually using the term “storm proof” now, what does it mean, and how is that different than “water resistant/repellent, weatherproof? Who the heck knows, it’s even more marketing jargon.
15-20 mins in medium rain was endured by the Peloton. Fabric was not wet, no moisture inside either. That bag is also labeled as weatherproof. I have so many questions...
which would you pick? this or the peak design backpack?
This one.
Hay, I like your review, I also like the pouch that you've shown in the end, could you send a link, where I could get one?
It’s a Peak Design Field Pouch. It’s really good.
Great review. Thnx. Very helpful.
How is the waist strap? Did you ever use it when the bag got heavy?
Never used it, but it was nice that they included it.
how about prima system vs the AEL 222 vs the Tumi Sheppard Deluxe Brief Pack?
Haven’t fully reviewed the Tumi, so that’s out. Raw scores put the AEL on top, but look into what form factor works best for your use case.
great review as always. thanks!
Great review! i was on the fence of adding this since I already have an order in for the errant pack. You mentioned in it your review, are you also a backer?
Thanks! I did back the Errant. I picked up the XPAC Grey, I think those are supposed to start shipping out next week. Probably won’t see it until after new year though.
Hi idk if you’re still gonna respond a little later but I recently have been watching you and I love your reviews as they are truly honest and come from a real consumers point of view. I don’t know whether to choose the Pelotan Asphalt or the Prima backpack. I’m a student so I will need to carry books as well as my laptop and other materials. Which do you recommend?
They’re both pretty similar actually, size wise. Peloton has a little more organization but it’s a louder bag, with all the Velcro. Both high quality materials and good build. Peloton can expand to 40L I believe, and has a bunch of external straps to attach even more stuff on the outside.
Do you want to sell that Alchemy AEL222 bag?
Nope - It’s a keeper. Thanks for watching though.
Also, how does this compare to the LBB peloton asphalt?
Overall similar carry style. Better side access on the Prima. LBB has more Velcro.
If you could let me know the internal dimensions of the main compartment? (Please :)
Don’t have this bag anymore. Check their site.
@@HumorousMaximus OK, their site lists dimension, but not internal as far as I can tell. My impression is the bag (takes more then the Errant) but it's deceptive in its capacity moreover the main compartment curves and as you pack it becomes increasingly difficult to close the top.
What's the little pouch you have attached to the strap?
Chrome Industries cell pouch.
You gonna give the x pac version a shot for this bag?
Other than the shell, there’s nothing new for me to try, so it’s a pass. I’ve gotten my X-PAC fix with the Axiom24.
@@HumorousMaximus damn dude that axiom video really sold me on the xpac material but I'm thinking the prima's features and style are more of what I'm needing. Alright dude I put a pre-order for the prima xpac in multi cam 😍. Thanks again dude I'll keep checking in to support the channel!
“To cinch this down.. I’m not gonna repeat myself...”goes on to repeat himself
You should see the unedited video, it’s bad. Something I keep working on. If I had the time I’d do a script and just read it over the video.
HumorousMaximus nah man, the review is good its just that for a sec there I though I was glitching out. I think its awesome you even find the time to produce videos at all, and your criticisms are always fair
Paper becomes soft with high humidity
How funny that you're using a peak design bag instead of the boundary portfolio. I bought the prima, but using it is just a pain. It's not very well organized and the straps sit at a bad angle on my shoulders. It's just sitting in a closet.
That PD pouch is my most favorite little thing. Any excuse to use it is fine by me.
Great video besides the audio mentioned by someone else.
Thanks for the feedback. I’ll do some googling for my next video about enhancing the audio.
good review apart from the 278 'like'.
I thought it to be to stiff and heavy for me :(
WHAT?!