Well this took far too long to come out, sorry about that. Foolish me thought I could finish this before the new year but i at the very least I technically got it out before February (it is currently 11:41pm January 31st). This video was cursed I swear, the amount of time I have spent sick between starting and finishing this video is just ridiculous. I had the video almost entirely finished barring the music for over a week while I was dying from the turbo plague my city got recent (read: unusually awful flu, I was vomiting every 30 minutes). Thank you to everyone who commented on the last video and especial thanks to those who offered their assistance. You'll all likely come to regret that come future tiers when I'll be completely lost about some topics. If I never responded to you or your offer know I appreciate it and I will be keeping it in mind I'm just awful at interaction. I'm extremely happy with how this turned out. Despite all the problems I ran into and the feeling of burnout I was getting I didn't release a half-assed product (I have no idea how this ended up almost double the length of the last one, either). If you notice any mistakes though (and I'm sure there are some) please let me know in the comments and I'll add a correction to the next video. I make no promises on when the next part of this iceberg will be, I still want to stick with my One-Mugen-One-Other video schedule but with how taxing this one was to make I may end up doing a two-to-one at least for the next one. I don't think the next tiers will be nearly as long this one just seemed particularly bloated, and visually I have way more to work with for the later tiers. Anyway thanks everyone for watching it means a bunch to me! 💙
@@KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU like a public server? I’ve considered it, I have one from when I used to stream but it very quickly became just a total nightmare zone. I’ll definitely think about it again tho you and the other people who comment on my videos are far more normal
@@sungazercyan Yeah totally. I also wanna help you with the iceberg if that’s okay. Mainly cause some of the entries, least on my iceberg are very specific coding things only some people who know C coding would understand
rather swag video once again. if you need help on some of the more fancy programming hacky stuff later on, i can probably find some fellas that can explain stuff well. could also try to explain some stuff myself if ya want :p
Thanks for the mention. I am the creator of the KOF Memorial project. The channel on youtube is inactive because I am currently using the channel on which I am commenting now.
don't tell me... you're Zelgadis? I thought you retired a long time ago, nice to see you're still active doing stuff! I am a big fan of your project since when I was 11-12 years old.
The "my car has air conditioning" review is a reference to meme in Higurashi community, I couldn't explain it properly no matter what, you just have to read first arc of Higurashi. Also, as a fan of the VN, I'm kinda disappointed you didn't even mention the name Higurashi in an entry about a crossover that involves Higurashi.
Wow I'm late lol Hi! I'm the one formely known as GaelikTheWarrior (the same name still redirects to my YT channel though). To explain, I wasn't familiar with JoJo at all at the time, heck I didn't even play the Capcom game until after I've made the character. I just saw Joseph's sprites, was like "I could just make him a ginger and cheap as fuck" and boom, Chuck Norris lol I was always too ambitious at the time and ended up making only shitty characters, but this one is still my favorite for having the most fun making it. But yeah, he was quickly dethroned by cheaper characters as I quickly moved on to other projects. Thank you @sungazercyan for featuring him! It's nice to look back at my old creations. I've left MUGEN a long time ago and now I'm mostly making Blender stuff. Could be interesting to come back and make a completely original character now that I have all the tools and knowledge to do so.
One more note about JS's Peter Griffin: There's a video of JS Peter Griffin that actually ended up being featured on the G4 TV cable channel back in the 2000's when it aired. The show hosts were genuinely convinced that the video was showing an elaborate MvC ROM hack, and commended the work done on it as if it were a ROM hack because they had no idea what MUGEN was. For awhile I thought this clip might've been lost media, but thank god the original upload still exists. I remember seeing this clip as a young teen on youtube back in the day and just wilding out over the idea that JudgeSpear had "trolled" G4 lmfao ua-cam.com/video/pdy3SFcwj0Y/v-deo.html
I'm gonna post this here as well for other people to see. Hi! I'm the one formely known as GaelikTheWarrior (the same name still redirects to my YT channel though). To explain, I wasn't familiar with JoJo at all at the time, heck I didn't even play the Capcom game until after I've made the Joseph palette swap. I just saw Joseph's sprites, was like "I could just make him a ginger and cheap as fuck" and boom, Chuck Norris lol I was always too ambitious at the time and ended up making only shitty characters, but this one is still my favorite for having the most fun making it. But yeah, he was quickly dethroned by cheaper characters as I quickly moved on to other projects. Thank you for featuring him! It's nice to look back at my old creations. I've left MUGEN a long time ago and now I'm mostly making Blender stuff. Could be interesting to come back and make a completely original character now that I have all the tools and knowledge to do so.
Fun fact about Madoldcrow1105: He had a whole concept of a Nick vs. CN screen-pack that's based on Marvel vs. Capcom 3 with updated and new characters. He did say he wasn't taking the project seriously tho, which is why it never got past the concept stage. I think he's still active in Deviantart now last time I checked. Mordecai is his most popular character actually lmao
Thanks for making these videos! I don't have a ton of time to explore MUGEN in my day to day life but this is a great way to get a glimpse at it that feels up-to-date and personal. It's also nice that your iceberg videos tend to respect people's time and not waste a ton of minutes explaining really surface level stuff. Also your roblox avatar is sick!
Wow thank you so much. I really try to make these as concise and interesting as possible, I watch a lot of iceberg content myself and agree I don’t like my time wasted
Dude subbed I was a MUGEN Nut after I discovered it completely by accident while looking up a sprite package for Jedah. Way back in 2007. I spent YEARS on Mugenguild posting, submitting and downloading. Hilariously I discovered both your channel AND this super informative awesome ass video while searching for BBHood Variants. Pretty much almost full circle.
my memory might be a bit foggy on this but I was around during the whole gurospooo stuff and the sprites for the intro that were changed were specifically of mugen youtubers favorite characters who went out of the way to doggy on that character and the creator put them in as some form of revenge.
Nice to see acknowledgement of my Iceberg. Slight correction with PotS Style: It's CvS style without grooves, not with. It's, for the most part, a fusion of mechanics from each groove, such as Parries, Dodges and Rolls, Power Charging, and Custom Combos. I think Hyper DBZ PotS style also just comes from Hyper DBZ and PotS Style being close together on the chart. Pretty good coverage, though. I'll be intrigued by your coverage of the lower tiers in the future.
Ah okay, thank you I’ll definitely add that to the next video. I’m really unfamiliar with CvS overall like I’ve seen a little bit of it but I’ve never managed to play it
Ayyy my mugen roster is at 12:07 xD niceee but yea I do have to say something about the eve mugen screenpacks for me I don't use it to cram so many chars I use it for fun and because personally if I feel like playing a pretty stacked mugen I just play it or make a roster which is why I make large rosters but ofc I'm not stingy I share my rosters with my subscribers and any mugen player/fan that wants to mess around with it ofc. I believe mugen is for anyone and anybody so I always let people know in the description they can add, remove, replace, and etc..the characters on the rosters I make and will continue to do so. c:
Hot Dogg! This is already a massive step up in terms of editing from the last iceberg! Not to mention the length of it, I am more than excited to binge and really sink my teeth into this.
Its Kinda Curious How the None Used the Melty blood Characters Hisui Appearing In One of the Giygas Minigames having his jumpscare (the one you mentioned) Kohaku bein mentioned in the old Dink Smallwood Arcade mode ending Cutscene (the one made by the none when he has most mysterious) And Kouma Kishima Bein And Actual joke Character That Can basically transform into other the none characters like Dopefish, Omega tiger woods, Skullman 2nd form or Segalow ( the rugal bernstein Edit) Btw, A Usser named Xbrosion Made an edit Of that Kouma Adding Giygas as one Of his Victory Animations ( to be more specific the one Of Heita and the one of "Now its safe to turn off your computer") + some new attacks
came across this and part 1 and had a wave of nostalgia as a millennial raised on the internet lmao. well done! truth be told, i think i have the same 15 year old WinMUGEN folder on an external drive from back in the day, hahah. also you like Gundam, which is cool, tho i sadly bounced off of Gundam Evo after a week or so sadly
Thank you! Yeah I got super into Gundam Evo for a little bit but fell right off just before S1 finished. For me online competitive games just haven't been holding my interest very long for some reason
would recommend digging through that folder again and potentially reuploading it somewhere, mugen lost media is a very real thing and there may be some in there!
@@noxxyy I'll have to take a look! I don't think I had any especially rare characters, it was mostly stuff by P.o.t.S. and other similarly popular creators of the era.
13:39 I’d imagine it says “safe version” because 聖櫻幻血’s GIYGAS_XXX has multiple versions, and “safe version” is being used to refer to the internal null version. There’s also at least 2 external versions which remain fully private, as far as I know: one which 聖櫻幻血 says is a “γ / Anti-Malware” tier, which has videos of it on their channel being used against another external and against the MrsMajor virus, as well as one they say is a “WAN/Dragon” tier which according to them cannot be made into a video. On another note, 聖櫻幻血’s GIYGAS_XXX was inspired by Helltoast’s Giυgas, but I don’t recall it being a direct edit.
Great info, thank you. I know later in the iceberg I’ll be covering dragon nulls and malware so this is really helpful. I’ll add a correction about Giugas in the next one, I’m guessing GIYGAS_XXX being an edit probably came from the database.
is it stupid if I ask for a Colonel edits segment in a MUGEN iceberg? Ik they're pretty much like a counterpart of the Donald edits being more underrated, but maybe it could be interesting to add that considering the existence of Colonels such as...: Killer Colonel, Unknown Colonel 2nd, Period Time and etc. (yep, I'm asking this as someone who made like 100 Colonel Sanders edits throughout the years)
I know that the iceberg is good, but there are some things that needs to be mentioned more about. The dark donald that the iceberg is referring to is actually the kishio and donalddesu version. Which is the dark donald everyone knows about. This version of dark donald basically gives him the ability to litteraly spam projectiles and can infinitely combo his opponent. As well as the newer version where he can use more projectiles and have a health regenerating system. The newer version of dark donald is also famous cause of the fact that its nearly impossible to kill for 4th div to 2nd div chars. Since he have 2 counters. 1 for refilling his health and heavily damage the opponent, and the other is the black hole move which is an insta death reversal. So yeah. That dark donald is what everyone kind of recognized. And as for chuck norris in mugen, he has became such a classic meme in the mugen community for being one of the stronger characters in its time as you mentioned. But sadly, he would lose that throne later on once hes been beaten by other cheaper character's. And im hoping thst you'll mention some of them soon. Cause i have a lot of knowledge about mugen characters ranging from all types.
Dunno what to comment, so I'll just post a random MUGEN fact: Did you know Rare Akuma's name is a play on the fact that cheap characters were really hard to obtain during the time of his creation?
Oh zo you played spark 3, have you played the first 1 too (still my all-time favorite game in litherally ever so far, (& no i don't have a preference between 2D & 3D, i like them both equally) heck i even pretty much did a 1 form only run with every power up so i figured out quite a lot like the highest you can get with board only for example )
I’m definitely partial to the 3D sonic-likes so Spark 2 and 3 are my favourite but the original still slaps. I picked up the bundle when 3 came out and played them all in a row
Aye bro, would you make an in depth video on salty bets later on down the line? I know you covered the basics twice already but maybe like more of the history/ start or anything else that’s salty 😂
@@sungazercyan hope spriteclub gets mentioned too at some point. really nice community, plus they're good for if you're looking to make a character too
Is there a Joey Faust/Team Faust Games Arena Fighters entry in any of the 3 icebergs you are covering in these videos? I think it's somewhat notable and I could help with research if needed.
There is not but I just finished the script for the next part I can add it to the bonus entries section. Doesn’t seem to difficult, it looks pretty slick. Love me some Bio Freaks representation
@@sungazercyan Sounds good. I think during that same bonus entry you should also talk a bit about the TFGAF style content not made by Faust himself, made by some people like AngryBirdCooler, YochiThMaster, and I've also done some too. And maybe also a bit about AngryBirdCooler's somewhat infamous TFGAF template.
Hey nice timing, I got sent your iceberg yesterday so I’ve got some more things to add starting in tier 3. Lots of winmugen shenanigans coming up, mostly in tier 4 and beyond.
Is Kuromaru's origin an part of the iceberg along with why the Kouya chars act so weird and powerful? I heard that Kuromaru may have been based on Backbeard from gegege no kitarou.
@@sungazercyan On the note of Kuromaru, it would be cool to see an entry covering original characters made in the M.U.G.E.N. engine, like Kung Fu Girl, Ryoko, or even the boss character Kyouki. Another entry that would be interesting is Sumin styled characters. In the footage for the first video, I noticed you were using a version of Chara from Undertale who was made by Sumin who made tons of characters in their style, most notably from Undertale. The reason I suggested it as it's own entry is because, much like P.O.T.S., people have made tons of characters in their style, and I get why. Basically it's like a batshit insane version of Smash Bros. where the mechanics are practically begging you to try to lock the opponent into a Touch of Death combo. I don't know if this even counts, but there was this cancelled Yume Nikki themed fighting game called Dream vs. Dream made in a different but similar engine as M.U.G.E.N., like Higurashi vs. Touhou. The sprite artist for that game went on to do the art for OneShot.
I'm disappointed that you didn't mention Orochi edits and the origin of God Orochi. Orochi used to be one of the most edited characters until Ronald McDonald overtook him.
Wait, if "EN" in "IKEMEN" means "ENgine", would that mean "EN' in "MUGEN" means "Engine" too? It makes me think that the first 3 letters of the fighting game engine name would prolly be something like "Massive User Generate/Generated/Generation" ,"Multi User Generate/Generated/Generation", "Most/Mostly User Generate/Generated/Generation", or something like those lines and just end it with "Engine".
Speaking about a lot of games to have played before, with the tenkaichi 4 coming i'm currently playing the shit out of dragon ball z budokai tenkaichi 3 on my wii which has become my most favorite dragon ball game so far
completely insane your two M.U.G.E.N videos don't have a zillion views, these have been incredibly concise, clear and informative. also, non-binary high five, this post was made by they/them gang, comment for the algorithm gods etc. etc.
Carlos The Stickman is a very good example of amateur character creation, its a very lazy Daniel edit, with some other character moves with it, or Josh Geary in general
Daniel (the creator not the char') went by many different handles (which you already looked in the wiki) And now goes by jaede_midori he also has a youtube channel, on whatever, he feels like uploading.
i was initially turned off because of the roblox persona, but honestly your vids are really good, they're fun, they're well edited and your humor is fun, at least for me
Honestly I’m just not artistic enough to make my own that’s the only reason behind the lil roblox character. I can make a new costume for different videos fairly easily that way too
@@sungazercyan huh, didn't think of the ease of customizing, saw it used in the dwarf fortress video and somehow it didn't occur to me Guess you could, i dunno, commission someone? But the ease of use and the extensive reuse capabilities of Roblox are a huge plus... Not that it matters, all things considered. The Roblox persona is the last thing in my mind watching these, can't wait for the mugen part 3!
WOW, an entire hour?!!? Damn bro, I am honored to have someone review my subpar iceberg lol, Could you change the number one tatsuya suou fan to KOI#1218? That is my new account.
@@KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU I think that would be way more interesting. Donald themed screenpack and lifebars, Donald-adjacent stages and a roster filled with Donald edits. It's perfect
What in god's name is "Donaldcore"? nobody in their mother's name uses that term unironically, people just say "Donald edits" to refer to an edit of Donald McDonald.
>gets salty and butthurt over alternative nicknames for specifically Donald edits and dude putting a spriteswap in the vid merely to interpretate them. Yeah... you're a BetaCoding alt, why are you like this to anyone that isn't a friend of yours or someone overpraised by your gang?
@@Mysterious1007I mean it's stupid saying Donald core because we still have up and am coming recruits for the Mugen community, Donald edits is just much simple and easier to know
Well this took far too long to come out, sorry about that. Foolish me thought I could finish this before the new year but i at the very least I technically got it out before February (it is currently 11:41pm January 31st). This video was cursed I swear, the amount of time I have spent sick between starting and finishing this video is just ridiculous. I had the video almost entirely finished barring the music for over a week while I was dying from the turbo plague my city got recent (read: unusually awful flu, I was vomiting every 30 minutes).
Thank you to everyone who commented on the last video and especial thanks to those who offered their assistance. You'll all likely come to regret that come future tiers when I'll be completely lost about some topics. If I never responded to you or your offer know I appreciate it and I will be keeping it in mind I'm just awful at interaction.
I'm extremely happy with how this turned out. Despite all the problems I ran into and the feeling of burnout I was getting I didn't release a half-assed product (I have no idea how this ended up almost double the length of the last one, either). If you notice any mistakes though (and I'm sure there are some) please let me know in the comments and I'll add a correction to the next video. I make no promises on when the next part of this iceberg will be, I still want to stick with my One-Mugen-One-Other video schedule but with how taxing this one was to make I may end up doing a two-to-one at least for the next one. I don't think the next tiers will be nearly as long this one just seemed particularly bloated, and visually I have way more to work with for the later tiers.
Anyway thanks everyone for watching it means a bunch to me!
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Pleaaaasssseeee make a discord!
@@KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU like a public server? I’ve considered it, I have one from when I used to stream but it very quickly became just a total nightmare zone. I’ll definitely think about it again tho you and the other people who comment on my videos are far more normal
@@sungazercyan Yeah totally. I also wanna help you with the iceberg if that’s okay. Mainly cause some of the entries, least on my iceberg are very specific coding things only some people who know C coding would understand
Why You make So longer Comment better than The rest of Comment, normal?!
rather swag video once again. if you need help on some of the more fancy programming hacky stuff later on, i can probably find some fellas that can explain stuff well. could also try to explain some stuff myself if ya want :p
Thanks for the mention. I am the creator of the KOF Memorial project. The channel on youtube is inactive because I am currently using the channel on which I am commenting now.
That’s great to know, I’ll add that in to the next part for everyone who’s wanting more info on Memorial. Thanks a lot
don't tell me... you're Zelgadis? I thought you retired a long time ago, nice to see you're still active doing stuff! I am a big fan of your project since when I was 11-12 years old.
You are so based KOF memorial is peak mugen
The "my car has air conditioning" review is a reference to meme in Higurashi community, I couldn't explain it properly no matter what, you just have to read first arc of Higurashi.
Also, as a fan of the VN, I'm kinda disappointed you didn't even mention the name Higurashi in an entry about a crossover that involves Higurashi.
Maybe Chuck Norris being a sprite edit of Joseph from JoJo represent how they are both a trickster/fun character.
I mean whatever the reason was it definitely worked that’s for sure
Oh, that wasn't a sprite edit. That was just the Joseph sprite.
no it was simply a recolor lol
@@silverhanmai mean recoloring a sprite technically counts as an edit right
Wow I'm late lol
Hi! I'm the one formely known as GaelikTheWarrior (the same name still redirects to my YT channel though).
To explain, I wasn't familiar with JoJo at all at the time, heck I didn't even play the Capcom game until after I've made the character.
I just saw Joseph's sprites, was like "I could just make him a ginger and cheap as fuck" and boom, Chuck Norris lol
I was always too ambitious at the time and ended up making only shitty characters, but this one is still my favorite for having the most fun making it.
But yeah, he was quickly dethroned by cheaper characters as I quickly moved on to other projects.
Thank you @sungazercyan for featuring him! It's nice to look back at my old creations. I've left MUGEN a long time ago and now I'm mostly making Blender stuff. Could be interesting to come back and make a completely original character now that I have all the tools and knowledge to do so.
One more note about JS's Peter Griffin:
There's a video of JS Peter Griffin that actually ended up being featured on the G4 TV cable channel back in the 2000's when it aired. The show hosts were genuinely convinced that the video was showing an elaborate MvC ROM hack, and commended the work done on it as if it were a ROM hack because they had no idea what MUGEN was.
For awhile I thought this clip might've been lost media, but thank god the original upload still exists. I remember seeing this clip as a young teen on youtube back in the day and just wilding out over the idea that JudgeSpear had "trolled" G4 lmfao
ua-cam.com/video/pdy3SFcwj0Y/v-deo.html
Awesome of you to tell me this, lmao.
I'm gonna post this here as well for other people to see.
Hi! I'm the one formely known as GaelikTheWarrior (the same name still redirects to my YT channel though).
To explain, I wasn't familiar with JoJo at all at the time, heck I didn't even play the Capcom game until after I've made the Joseph palette swap.
I just saw Joseph's sprites, was like "I could just make him a ginger and cheap as fuck" and boom, Chuck Norris lol
I was always too ambitious at the time and ended up making only shitty characters, but this one is still my favorite for having the most fun making it.
But yeah, he was quickly dethroned by cheaper characters as I quickly moved on to other projects.
Thank you for featuring him! It's nice to look back at my old creations. I've left MUGEN a long time ago and now I'm mostly making Blender stuff. Could be interesting to come back and make a completely original character now that I have all the tools and knowledge to do so.
That’s incredible thank you for making such an important piece of history
Fun fact about Madoldcrow1105:
He had a whole concept of a Nick vs. CN screen-pack that's based on Marvel vs. Capcom 3 with updated and new characters. He did say he wasn't taking the project seriously tho, which is why it never got past the concept stage.
I think he's still active in Deviantart now last time I checked.
Mordecai is his most popular character actually lmao
Thanks for making these videos! I don't have a ton of time to explore MUGEN in my day to day life but this is a great way to get a glimpse at it that feels up-to-date and personal. It's also nice that your iceberg videos tend to respect people's time and not waste a ton of minutes explaining really surface level stuff. Also your roblox avatar is sick!
Wow thank you so much. I really try to make these as concise and interesting as possible, I watch a lot of iceberg content myself and agree I don’t like my time wasted
Its amazing to see this high quality mugen content, feels refreshing especially that its full english
Dude subbed
I was a MUGEN Nut after I discovered it completely by accident while looking up a sprite package for Jedah. Way back in 2007. I spent YEARS on Mugenguild posting, submitting and downloading.
Hilariously I discovered both your channel AND this super informative awesome ass video while searching for BBHood Variants.
Pretty much almost full circle.
Timestamp:
Amateur/Child Artwork Characters: 2:09
Bonus Stage Characters/Bane84: 3:09
Boss Characters: 4:15
Brutal A.I.: 5:02
Cheap Characters: 6:29
I’m going to stop here more timestamps coming soon :)
Waiting for the rest
my memory might be a bit foggy on this but I was around during the whole gurospooo stuff and the sprites for the intro that were changed were specifically of mugen youtubers favorite characters who went out of the way to doggy on that character and the creator put them in as some form of revenge.
I'm surprised that you didn't Include ShinRyoga's Super Mario character in this video since it is a popular character..
You know, I somehow completely forgot about that one. I’m working on the next part currently I will definitely right that wrong
"The demented cartoon movie" is a great name
Dude these videos need more attention omg. Absolutely incredible quality.
Great Part 2 man, a full hour too I like it
I Pray for you when you get to kuromaru.
Nice to see acknowledgement of my Iceberg.
Slight correction with PotS Style: It's CvS style without grooves, not with. It's, for the most part, a fusion of mechanics from each groove, such as Parries, Dodges and Rolls, Power Charging, and Custom Combos.
I think Hyper DBZ PotS style also just comes from Hyper DBZ and PotS Style being close together on the chart.
Pretty good coverage, though. I'll be intrigued by your coverage of the lower tiers in the future.
Ah okay, thank you I’ll definitely add that to the next video. I’m really unfamiliar with CvS overall like I’ve seen a little bit of it but I’ve never managed to play it
Ayyy my mugen roster is at 12:07 xD niceee but yea I do have to say something about the eve mugen screenpacks for me I don't use it to cram so many chars I use it for fun and because personally if I feel like playing a pretty stacked mugen I just play it or make a roster which is why I make large rosters but ofc I'm not stingy I share my rosters with my subscribers and any mugen player/fan that wants to mess around with it ofc. I believe mugen is for anyone and anybody so I always let people know in the description they can add, remove, replace, and etc..the characters on the rosters I make and will continue to do so. c:
35:30 Dark Ronald for instance will jumpscare you with smile dog .jpeg if you try to play as him. He knows when hes an ai
Great video and I look forward to part 3, after watching your other icebergs you've certainly earned a new fan!
Hot Dogg! This is already a massive step up in terms of editing from the last iceberg! Not to mention the length of it, I am more than excited to binge and really sink my teeth into this.
4:06 HOLY CRAP this is awesome! I'll be sure to try these stages out :)
Its Kinda Curious How the None Used the Melty blood Characters
Hisui Appearing In One of the Giygas Minigames having his jumpscare (the one you mentioned)
Kohaku bein mentioned in the old Dink Smallwood Arcade mode ending Cutscene (the one made by the none when he has most mysterious)
And Kouma Kishima Bein And Actual joke Character That Can basically transform into other the none characters like Dopefish, Omega tiger woods, Skullman 2nd form or Segalow ( the rugal bernstein Edit)
Btw, A Usser named Xbrosion Made an edit Of that Kouma Adding Giygas as one Of his Victory Animations ( to be more specific the one Of Heita and the one of "Now its safe to turn off your computer") + some new attacks
came across this and part 1 and had a wave of nostalgia as a millennial raised on the internet lmao. well done!
truth be told, i think i have the same 15 year old WinMUGEN folder on an external drive from back in the day, hahah.
also you like Gundam, which is cool, tho i sadly bounced off of Gundam Evo after a week or so sadly
Thank you! Yeah I got super into Gundam Evo for a little bit but fell right off just before S1 finished. For me online competitive games just haven't been holding my interest very long for some reason
would recommend digging through that folder again and potentially reuploading it somewhere, mugen lost media is a very real thing and there may be some in there!
@@noxxyy I'll have to take a look! I don't think I had any especially rare characters, it was mostly stuff by P.o.t.S. and other similarly popular creators of the era.
btw i think the "faceless maid" in the giygas fight is an edited picture of Hisui from Tsukihime
13:39 I’d imagine it says “safe version” because 聖櫻幻血’s GIYGAS_XXX has multiple versions, and “safe version” is being used to refer to the internal null version. There’s also at least 2 external versions which remain fully private, as far as I know: one which 聖櫻幻血 says is a “γ / Anti-Malware” tier, which has videos of it on their channel being used against another external and against the MrsMajor virus, as well as one they say is a “WAN/Dragon” tier which according to them cannot be made into a video.
On another note, 聖櫻幻血’s GIYGAS_XXX was inspired by Helltoast’s Giυgas, but I don’t recall it being a direct edit.
Great info, thank you. I know later in the iceberg I’ll be covering dragon nulls and malware so this is really helpful. I’ll add a correction about Giugas in the next one, I’m guessing GIYGAS_XXX being an edit probably came from the database.
is it stupid if I ask for a Colonel edits segment in a MUGEN iceberg? Ik they're pretty much like a counterpart of the Donald edits being more underrated, but maybe it could be interesting to add that considering the existence of Colonels such as...: Killer Colonel, Unknown Colonel 2nd, Period Time and etc. (yep, I'm asking this as someone who made like 100 Colonel Sanders edits throughout the years)
Nah that’s not stupid I’ll toss that into the next video. I saw a bunch when I was doing research before so there’s definitely enough to talk about
Insanely well made video
The first Suave Dude was an Eraser spriteswap...
I know it because, it was me.
Thank you, I’ll definitely add that to the corrections in the next part
Just saw the Zeekyboogydoog in the thumbnail. Based.
I know that the iceberg is good, but there are some things that needs to be mentioned more about. The dark donald that the iceberg is referring to is actually the kishio and donalddesu version. Which is the dark donald everyone knows about. This version of dark donald basically gives him the ability to litteraly spam projectiles and can infinitely combo his opponent. As well as the newer version where he can use more projectiles and have a health regenerating system. The newer version of dark donald is also famous cause of the fact that its nearly impossible to kill for 4th div to 2nd div chars. Since he have 2 counters. 1 for refilling his health and heavily damage the opponent, and the other is the black hole move which is an insta death reversal. So yeah. That dark donald is what everyone kind of recognized. And as for chuck norris in mugen, he has became such a classic meme in the mugen community for being one of the stronger characters in its time as you mentioned. But sadly, he would lose that throne later on once hes been beaten by other cheaper character's. And im hoping thst you'll mention some of them soon. Cause i have a lot of knowledge about mugen characters ranging from all types.
Your channel is incredible bro, I have a cvs\pots project with story mode, with cutscenes and lots of extras
Dunno what to comment, so I'll just post a random MUGEN fact:
Did you know Rare Akuma's name is a play on the fact that cheap characters were really hard to obtain during the time of his creation?
That I did not know I’ll definitely throw that into the next part, thanks
DONG DONG NEVER DIE MENTIONED LESGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I've never seen this video before
But now i need to get into some mugen lore....
What music did you use 37:05 - 41:10? Sounds like something I remember from a snes game.
I believe that’s “The Moon as Seen from the Shrine” from Touhou 15 if I remember right I really have to go back and add the songs lmao
Oh zo you played spark 3, have you played the first 1 too (still my all-time favorite game in litherally ever so far, (& no i don't have a preference between 2D & 3D, i like them both equally) heck i even pretty much did a 1 form only run with every power up so i figured out quite a lot like the highest you can get with board only for example )
I’m definitely partial to the 3D sonic-likes so Spark 2 and 3 are my favourite but the original still slaps. I picked up the bundle when 3 came out and played them all in a row
youtuber make a video without doing the "oughh i dont wanna do thiisss" bit: IMPOSSIBLE!
Aye bro, would you make an in depth video on salty bets later on down the line?
I know you covered the basics twice already but maybe like more of the history/ start or anything else that’s salty 😂
Yeah that sounds like a really solid idea. I’m definitely looking to do non-berg videos down the line and that one would be super interesting
@@sungazercyan hope spriteclub gets mentioned too at some point. really nice community, plus they're good for if you're looking to make a character too
Hello and thank you for part 2 sir.
24:52 Isn't it POTS Style Character?
Is there a Joey Faust/Team Faust Games Arena Fighters entry in any of the 3 icebergs you are covering in these videos? I think it's somewhat notable and I could help with research if needed.
There is not but I just finished the script for the next part I can add it to the bonus entries section. Doesn’t seem to difficult, it looks pretty slick. Love me some Bio Freaks representation
@@sungazercyan Sounds good. I think during that same bonus entry you should also talk a bit about the TFGAF style content not made by Faust himself, made by some people like AngryBirdCooler, YochiThMaster, and I've also done some too. And maybe also a bit about AngryBirdCooler's somewhat infamous TFGAF template.
the disturbing maid is hisui but they just edited her face off and put a skull image on it
i re-read nes godzilla creepypasta every year or two as well 😅
@sungazercyan what’s the intro song?
does judge spear still have a channel?
where did my boy layer 3 video fella go 😭
I have to consume Godzilla Nes every October, it’s tradition. Maybe someday I’ll actually upload part 2 of my narration.
quick question but what's the song you used for the beggining of the video.
It’s “Gathers Under Night” by Raito, the character select music from UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH Exe:Late
Very complete entries and explanations so far, I want to see how it goes when you dive deeper into the winmugen entries on future parts.
Hey nice timing, I got sent your iceberg yesterday so I’ve got some more things to add starting in tier 3. Lots of winmugen shenanigans coming up, mostly in tier 4 and beyond.
@@sungazercyan Nice, if you are in need of any clarifications regarding my iceberg feel free to DM me.
Bro didn’t even mention cmc+… that is THE smash mugen smh
what's the screenpack/lifebar used at 6:20?
found it, its the neon screenpack by necro rk
14:45
Wait that's supposed to be Spongebob????
Is Kuromaru's origin an part of the iceberg along with why the Kouya chars act so weird and powerful? I heard that Kuromaru may have been based on Backbeard from gegege no kitarou.
I don’t think it’s on any of the icebergs but I’m still writing the script so if it isn’t I can add it in as an extra entry
@@sungazercyan On the note of Kuromaru, it would be cool to see an entry covering original characters made in the M.U.G.E.N. engine, like Kung Fu Girl, Ryoko, or even the boss character Kyouki.
Another entry that would be interesting is Sumin styled characters. In the footage for the first video, I noticed you were using a version of Chara from Undertale who was made by Sumin who made tons of characters in their style, most notably from Undertale. The reason I suggested it as it's own entry is because, much like P.O.T.S., people have made tons of characters in their style, and I get why. Basically it's like a batshit insane version of Smash Bros. where the mechanics are practically begging you to try to lock the opponent into a Touch of Death combo.
I don't know if this even counts, but there was this cancelled Yume Nikki themed fighting game called Dream vs. Dream made in a different but similar engine as M.U.G.E.N., like Higurashi vs. Touhou. The sprite artist for that game went on to do the art for OneShot.
Timestamp?
Very cool series, thank you! btw what is the very first BGM at the beginning?
It’s “Gathers Under Night” by Raito, the character select music from UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH Exe:Late
@@sungazercyan Thanks!
I'm disappointed that you didn't mention Orochi edits and the origin of God Orochi. Orochi used to be one of the most edited characters until Ronald McDonald overtook him.
what's the music that plays at the start of the video
I really love your voice!
ETA on next video?
I’m like 70% done the script life has just been very hard lately lmao. The script is the hard part for me it should come soon after that
@@sungazercyan Awesome to hear, can't wait till you're covering the Cheapie War
I'm surprised he didn't include New madness Mario
Mugen, is a beautiful game
Wait, if "EN" in "IKEMEN" means "ENgine", would that mean "EN' in "MUGEN" means "Engine" too? It makes me think that the first 3 letters of the fighting game engine name would prolly be something like "Massive User Generate/Generated/Generation" ,"Multi User Generate/Generated/Generation", "Most/Mostly User Generate/Generated/Generation", or something like those lines and just end it with "Engine".
Speaking about a lot of games to have played before, with the tenkaichi 4 coming i'm currently playing the shit out of dragon ball z budokai tenkaichi 3 on my wii which has become my most favorite dragon ball game so far
I’ve been chewing away at the BT4 mod myself to kinda hold me over until we get even ANY more news about that game
completely insane your two M.U.G.E.N videos don't have a zillion views, these have been incredibly concise, clear and informative. also, non-binary high five, this post was made by they/them gang, comment for the algorithm gods etc. etc.
Sick video
Carlos The Stickman is a very good example of amateur character creation, its a very lazy Daniel edit, with some other character moves with it, or Josh Geary in general
WHAT THE HELL HOW DO YOU HAVE LESS SUBS THAN ME
THIS IS GREAT
Aw thank you, just hoping some day to be one of the lucky ones chosen by the algorithm
This video good, !!RANDOM TIME STAMPING 2:23!!
Ash Crimson deserves more love in the KOF community
Daniel (the creator not the char') went by many different handles (which you already looked in the wiki) And now goes by jaede_midori he also has a youtube channel, on whatever, he feels like uploading.
i was initially turned off because of the roblox persona, but honestly your vids are really good, they're fun, they're well edited and your humor is fun, at least for me
Honestly I’m just not artistic enough to make my own that’s the only reason behind the lil roblox character. I can make a new costume for different videos fairly easily that way too
@@sungazercyan huh, didn't think of the ease of customizing, saw it used in the dwarf fortress video and somehow it didn't occur to me
Guess you could, i dunno, commission someone? But the ease of use and the extensive reuse capabilities of Roblox are a huge plus...
Not that it matters, all things considered. The Roblox persona is the last thing in my mind watching these, can't wait for the mugen part 3!
WOW, an entire hour?!!? Damn bro, I am honored to have someone review my subpar iceberg lol, Could you change the number one tatsuya suou fan to KOI#1218? That is my new account.
Yeah for sure I’ll update the description when I get home and the future videos I’ll change it there
@@sungazercyan when I said Donaldcore, it was in reference to Donald’s 11th pallet.
@@KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU ohhhh I had a feeling that’s what it meant. That would’ve been “Donald Corps” tho
@@sungazercyan yeah I misheard cybershell lol. Donaldcore could be an aesthetic tho...maybe I should start that
@@KOINOYOKUSHIRYOKU I think that would be way more interesting. Donald themed screenpack and lifebars, Donald-adjacent stages and a roster filled with Donald edits. It's perfect
By the way, I updated my iceberg a bit.
SaltyBet?
Part 1
What in god's name is "Donaldcore"? nobody in their mother's name uses that term unironically, people just say "Donald edits" to refer to an edit of Donald McDonald.
also, why did you use that RoA Donald jus spriteswap as the footage?
I do!
Sincerly, the iceberg's creator :)
>gets salty and butthurt over alternative nicknames for specifically Donald edits and dude putting a spriteswap in the vid merely to interpretate them.
Yeah... you're a BetaCoding alt, why are you like this to anyone that isn't a friend of yours or someone overpraised by your gang?
@@Mysterious1007I mean it's stupid saying Donald core because we still have up and am coming recruits for the Mugen community, Donald edits is just much simple and easier to know