The lack of hygiene seems obvious to us now, but the concept of germs was not widely known about in the mid-19th century. The Theory of Germ Disease was only developed in the 1850's by Louis Pasteur. You'd think the smell and taste of river water would be a bit of a red flag though.
The Romans and Greeks had bath houses dedicated to cleanliness and socializing. Rome had sewers and pipes like we have today. I think people in the UK were fed superstitious lies about sanitation.
@@Marlaina Something about "opening the pores that lets in bad air", but I can't either confirm or deny it. I just know in the broad general sense the UK and numerous other places just got used to stink. They just became "nose blind" to it just for the sake of survival. People often go blind to their own body odder even today. And with sludge and sewer so common and everywhere I can see people being like "what's the point" when you just get dirty all over again as soon as you step out of the bath. I won't say places like London didn't try though, there are records of street cleaners, but it was unending battle when you don't know what to properly do with the waste.
Sometimes I find it hard to believe that my Nan lived in Shoreditch at the time Jack the Ripper was haunting the streets. She was only 7 but she had 6 older sisters it must have been a terrifying for her family.
@@titsandwich1842 We know that now but at the time" murder was afoot and the fear of death was everywhere" Having slashed up bodies on your local streets with no idea what was happening must have been terrifying for Jan's Nan and all around. I would have been terrified as a kid.
This was absolutely excellent. The inclusion of the artwork was a wonderful touch. The narrator was just splendid, really captured the essence of story-telling. I really hope you guys do more of historic murders/crimes.
Nicholas Day (his name is listed at the beginning credits) is an accomplished British actor who has appeared in 74 film and tv productions, including The Crown, Midsummer Murders, Rosemary & Thyme, Inspector Linley...
😂😂😂 you’ve made me think! Maybe I would’ve been one of those old ladies that took along their knitting to watch an execution? No I don’t really think so!
I love how this guy tells a story. He pulls u in so magnificently, so vividly that u feel like ur walking the streets with the ppl. U feel like ur one of the cops trying to Crack a case. U feel like the killer, stalking his prey. Or the victim feeling stalked n afraid.
This is part of murder maps?! I've seen it lmao and still I'm like O.O Ahahaha I've seen so many now that I forgot some, ah well at least I know it's gonna be good and not some obscure garbage I found. I've seen so many terrible horror movies too xD Edit I just noticed the title ahaha can you tell how tired I am? 😂
Did you really think clean water was always there by the grace of god. No it took time and great minds to work it out. London was one of first countries who got clean water and sewers
Spectacular work by the actors/staff of this production! It certainly kept me watching while learning some recent British history! And thanks for posting this series, it's so great to have access to varieties of productions from around the world now! It was a LOT of (expensive) work, to do this, in the daze of of eight foot diameter microwave dishes, analog, and C format/VHS/Pro Beta!
It's amazing how homicide detectives some centuries ago were that good they could solve a murder case within a week, they even used dental works to identity the body, that was forensics at its infancy.
She was so foolish. She was happy until she believed the nonsense of one man. All she had to do was ask her employer about possible suitors who are rich, and give his name. She could tell her if that's true. As fortunate as she was, she should've waited for better prospects. Even worse, she killed the very man who could get her out of her miserable situation
She was a psychopath. Simplest answer. It’s not all reason. These kinds of Criminals are driven by urges, basically, they are narcissists. They want what they want and will do anything to get it. One thing leads to another. The liar will steal and the thief will kill.
Surprising how quickly the murderers were located and arrested. They didn't have photography back then, yet they were identified by others based on their written published descriptions. You would think that they could have faded into the crowds and disappeared.
That Mrs. Manning was identified is less surprising, given that it appears that she had a French accent, easily identifiable as foreign and European. Maybe sketches of them were published. But even then, I'm still surprised at how quickly the husband at least, who didn't have a foreign accent, were tracked down. Maybe he had a more unusual or distinctive appearance? They both should have headed to a port city, some city that was teeming with transient people and new arrivals. Why didn't Maria at least, get herself over to France? It's the closest foreign country, and she spoke French. I think they both underestimated the abilities of the police, and to be fair, the work they did on this case and their ability to track them down so quickly was pretty impressive for the times.
@Fred Smith I know for sure that I wouldn't drink water from where sewage has been put into unless there was a water filtration system to remove fecal matter and urine.
Why the fuck does anyone want to live in any fucking city stacked on top of eachother like that is beyond me. I grew up on a farm in Kentucky, it was hard sometimes, but still pretty great. We never put our outhouse within 100 yards of the well, you just don't want to do that. When I was 9 the folks sold the farm and bought two bars in Lexington, the rest of my youth was spent there. It was pretty great too. After school I worked in Cincinnati for a year and a half, then moved to San Francisco Bay Area. Little bit of culture shock, not too bad. Got sick a few times when I first got there. Being exposed to all kinds of shit, it took a little while build up immunity to all that bullshit, after 6 months I never had any more problems with the exception of H1N1, that sucked, but it was also 15 years later too. Anyway, I did well, made a shit-ton of money, but there's just too many fucking people there!! I couldn't take that shit anymore!! I had grown to hate being there, and was just fucking miserable, so I sold my company and moved to Nor-Cal, the Trinity Alps. FUCKING AWESOME!! I would go weeks at a time without seeing ANYONE!! Beautiful!! 3 years ago I had to move to Florida for my mother, I love her, but I really fucking hate it here, Sarasota isn't even really that big, but still, THERE'S WAY TOO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE HERE ALL STACKED UP ON TOP OF EACHOTHER!!!! WHAT THE FUCK!?! WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE BEING SO FUCKING CLOSE TO OTHER PEOPLE!?! THIS WHOLE STATE SMELLS LIKE THE THAMES RIVER BANK!!
Why did she kill the man that would have treated her better than her alcoholic husband? She should have divorced and married Patrick. I know things were different back then but she should have left her husband. I never 👎🏽 want to witness an execution, it’s seems awful 😞. So sad, she choose the WRONG husband. I did love the PBS interpretation of Bleak House.
in victorian era women were properties they didn’t have a right even to own their house or their inheritance unless they were married. divorce was an option only for rich men and only if parliament approved it. so no. she couldn’t leave her husband or run away with rich guy or divorce that alcoholic piece. women endured much pain in those times.
@@gondolin12 I agree with most of what you say, but she could certainly have left her husband if she wanted to. She wouldn’t have been able to get a divorce, but even in that era women could and did leave unhappy marriages.
Yeah and he got kicked out into the streets for asking for more knowing he would but the older boys were going to beat him to a bloody pulp. Still want some more?
@Rulya קארן Mórrigan did you understand the joke. There’s a part in the musical we’re Oliver asks for more food and is severely reprimanded So my joke was it was a silent movie and I couldn’t have asked for more. I hope you have now got the joke 👌👌👌❤️❤️
Because it is. I'm slowly dying because i cant afford $6,000 for surgery. I wont live to 40, i got 6 years left, max. Ppl spend more on a pair of shoes or purse than my entire life is worth... ppl who say you can't place a monetary value on life have obviously never been sick in America...
It is more important to you, it's a sorry world when you can't get surgery for your life because of money, I would be in the same situation if my health was not good, I'm financially poor, but thankfully health rich, I hope it's not too painful for you, I do have an OUT if the tables turn, be prepared!
@@nomdeplume2213 Oh honey,I am so sorry for you.I know it's not worth much,but will send u healing thoughts & love & hope u have a loyal & caring family around you.Peace. 🕊️ x
Fantastic presentation, thank you. I love a social history lesson from a talented teacher, with real life case studies woven in and this had everything, including Charles Dickens, whose work I love. His Hortense in Bleak House is a creepy and memorable character. "Please Sir, I want some more"😁🇦🇺
I would have taken Patrick's help to get rid off my no good husband Frederick and not the other way around . The murder was not the mistake ; who was murdered , was .
@@julianakleijn9254 Very true . If she had cared for Patrick genuinely then he would have found a way to get rid of the drunkard Frederick and they could have been together forever . Patrick would have kept her in style . Which sort of idiot kills a financially strong man with the help of a penniless drunkard ???
Like Dr. Martin Luther King! I used to idolise that man, until I recently found out that he would not permit his wife to join the civil rights movement, although she desperately wanted to. Makes you think. Equality for all citizens??
@@mfjdv2020 If that's the worst thing you can say about him, the man's an angel. Well, he was no angel but he was a good man, important for the civil rights movement. He's done more for the nation than those who criticize him have done.
@@mfjdv2020 actually it would have been very dangerous for her and he knew it . . . I used to love MLK Jr, but became disillusioned when I found out he had a love affair while he was married . . . I'm out . . .
Now I remember why I don’t subscribe to this channel: I can’t listen to it while I lay down. There is no narrator, so you have to be actively watching this.
Which of the Dickens books? We had to read them all for English Honours and I started with 'Sketches by Boz' and read right through to 'The mystery of Edwin Drood'.
@@peggyjaeger9280 , In my time, the Prof. said: 'Read this' and one did. We read from Plautus, through Sophocles and Aristophanes right to Shakespeare and D.H. Lawrence ... that was simply the given syllabus for an Honours degree in English. It never dawned on us that one could enrol at uni and insist on not doing that amount of work! Or insist on changing the syllabus to our taste. We were students, not activists and knew nothing about being woke.
@@corneliawissing7950 You had an excellent education. I didn’t know what I wanted in college and I was kind of slow. I just love to read and am not good on tests. My tastes are all over the place so I read a lot of different authors and genres. Dickens books are long so I have only read a few. I do enjoy getting lost in his world. He really brings it to life! Will have to read Bleak House now!
@@peggyjaeger9280 , I wanted, more than anything else, to read and know. I still read: classics to sci-fi to true crime to history ... I think the best thing that ever happened to me was that I was given a bursary-loan to attend uni. (The bursary part one worked back, the loan part one paid back.) The most wonderful thing was the day the rector spoke to the 1st year students: part of the initiation. He explained that whether we had loans, or bursaries or wealthy parents, the state also supported our study, from taxpayer money. Therefore, whatever qualification we were pursuing, and whatever part of the country we were going to work in, we had a debt to pay. We owed the local farmer, and grocer and doctor and policeman a debt of gratitude for enabling us and we were obligated to give back of what they'd given us. At 78 years old, I still give back, even if I only explain active and passive to a child. I had, indeed, a good education and it was more than literature!
Sir Robert Peel (1788-1850) a Skillful Politican became Home Secretary in 1822, and carefully made police reforms without arousing the public fear of intimidation. He believed in crime prevention rather than relieving on punishment as a deterrent. In 1829, Legislation was passed by Parliament to establish the Metropolitan Police in London, a single Force for an area roughly within a circle of seven miles from the centre of London. Sir Charles Rowan & Sir Richard Mayne became the first joint Commissioners with their Headquarters in for Whitehall Place known as Scotland Yard.
Who is the narrator, please? He is excellent. A very well presented program. Our taste for bloody and gruesome crimes has not abated - at least they are on film and not live. But mobs have often cheered about cruel and unusual crimes and punishments. See the French Revolution, among other mass ogling of gruesome executions. Sadly, brutality seems to be part of our history and they have a weird fascination for us.
Hardly surprising really. The Victorian age was brutal, inhuman and disgustingly hypocritical. Children lay dead on the streets in the poor quarters and venereal disease (especially syphilis) was rife, to name but two horrific examples. In my opinion this was the absolute worst age in recent British history.
Being an alcoholic was healthier then drinking the water. As far as Mrs Manning goes for someone who claimed not to have committed murder she sure wasn't against trying to profit from it.
Thomas Wainwright was transported to Tasmania. He was a gifted writer and artist - His portraits of the colonists are especially interesting. Beautiful and delicate, somewhat somber and strange. In the light of his crimes they have a surreal air. Amazing he was able to work at all after being put in the road gangs. Notoriously brutal conditions. His crimes however were also brutal. He died from a stroke aged 53.
The best videos start right off with the story. No annoying music. No random yaking unrelated to the story. No hoolie goolie about horrors in the night. .
It just goes to show that we haven't changed our fascination with murder and the punishment given. Only today, we can't turn up to be entertained with the supposed justice (a life for a life).
Well that was a quick and proper trial. If they were in our time, they would most likely spend a few years in prison and then be released. Now criminals have more rights than their victims. There is a paranoia in the delivery of justice
Very Interesting and Informative...I like the Narration by Nicholas Day...An Interesting Fact I learned today that Urine was used for Tanning Process. I can just imagine the Stench, and it's also Very Unsanitary.
Thanks again for an intriguing story full of suspense and narrated excellently. Must say that those public hangings must have been scary to witness. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
The difference between the haves and the have nots. 😔 While the haves sit in their castles and the have nots do anything to survive. Nothing has changed in the 21st century. The world is a sad and messed up place. 🥺💔✌️
@@maureenspano6988 In south Britain they are still unashamedly obsessed by 'class'. The English can't open their mouths without saying the word 'class' in some context or other.
Everyday people lived longer and better lives in towns and areas outside of London in the 18th century . There was common land to grow crops and raise animals for dairy or for food. The taking away of the commons by British wealthy and nobility for their pompous ass farming and sheep and whatever grazing, drove rural and small town workers into London . Industrialization in the All out capitalism of the type for the richest , terrible work conditions, long all week work in shops, children too in the mills and shops , no relief , etc drove a lot more poor people to suicide than were murdered . and their were a lot more murders of the poor nobody cared about left unsolved.
Squonk tears:Childhood,real childhood as we know it,only really began in the C20.Before that,children were expected to work asap to keep the family.And rich children were hampered by etiquette & learning to make good marriages to enrich the family status & coffers.
The narrator is British actor Nicholas Day. Catch him in a television series called Minder, from the 1990s where he plays a police inspector, it is quite amusing. ^^
This was very well done, overall, and the actors in the dramatization were very convincing, despite the extremely cheesy “blood” graphics, etc. One major point is lacking, however, and that is the explanation of the murder of the wrong man! I should have thought that, had Maria murdered her husband with her lover, then she would have had a much better chance at getting away with it, her lover being far more intelligent than her husband. At that point, she was sure of her lover’s wealth, and marriage to him instead of a chronic alcoholic would have given her a much better life, in my opinion! Maybe her nature required her to exert control over the man she was with, but she made so many stupid mistakes that a clearer head was obviously needed.
That's the real mystery ...why did she choose the guy she did, instead of the guy with money? And even if she'd been misled by Manning's promise of wealth, once she found out, why not leave him? So much not known here
Of course at least one of your ancestors has killed someone. Think of how many people you are related to...and then the apes you are related to before they became humans. Lol
Boy my feet are sore from walking and I’m ready to go to sleep. I’ve nearly done 4 hours of not smoking. I watch true crime documentaries every day and I wonder what will be so shocking about the case that inspired Charles Dickens.
Here's a History Fact. A Major - Problem at the Time with during the Victorian Era was Drunkenness! Amongst the people of the public and the police themselves. Many of the original Peelers were dismissed within ten years for being drunk on duty! As well as arresting drunks, the Constables had to cope with all manner of public duties, including Fighting Fires, Breaking up fights in streets or lanes, Petty Felony, as well as Serious Crime. The new police tended to be Thief Catchers, not Detectives.
The premise of this story is nothing new - married woman has an affair, then she and her husband kill her lover for profit. They were just as sloppy as most killers, and were hanged for their deed. Just ask Mr Sherlock Holmes.
I think drinking alcohol would probably help keep off the cholera if it made you drink less water. I suppose it depended how much you drank. Too much and you'd be thirsty again.
I believe it was in Kentucky, in one if the cholera epidemics, the town drunk became a local hero. He never caught it because he never drank water. He took it upon himself to collect the bodies of the dead, took them to the cemeteries, and buried them. No one asked him to do it, or ordered him. Everyone else was too sick or too scared to take care of the bodies. After the epidemic, he went back to being a drunken layabout.
Wow how did they survive drinking poop water from the Thames!? I love the atmosphere you guys create in telling yr stories. It's very English. I love England! ❤ Love from New Zealand 🇳🇿 ❤.
No British judge would use the word 'HUNG' in the sentencing to death; it was always correctly stated 'hanged'. British judges have NEVER used a gavel either... And as for that wig...😀
Facinating. I like historical re-enactment. It shows that the historian tries to understand the social climate of the day. Not so different from what we deal with right now. Thanks so much for sharing. Very good. J.
Looking at the blood splatter in the murder scene makes me wonder if the house is still standing if anything remains. I can’t imagine there would be hangings these days, even if you knew without a doubt that the murderer did it for no defensive purpose. Also just have to say the background music is really pretty at times.
London is as violent now as it ever was. The difference between back then and now is that back then there was justice. When crimes were committed back then, there was also punishment given to those who perpetrated the crimes, thus maintaining the moral balance of the society. Unfortunately, in modern London, there's plenty of crime, but very little punishment.
The lack of hygiene seems obvious to us now, but the concept of germs was not widely known about in the mid-19th century. The Theory of Germ Disease was only developed in the 1850's by Louis Pasteur. You'd think the smell and taste of river water would be a bit of a red flag though.
2000 years ago "cleanliness is next to Godliness" just because these people were dirty doesn't mean that everyone was.
The Romans and Greeks had bath houses dedicated to cleanliness and socializing. Rome had sewers and pipes like we have today. I think people in the UK were fed superstitious lies about sanitation.
@@Marlaina Something about "opening the pores that lets in bad air", but I can't either confirm or deny it. I just know in the broad general sense the UK and numerous other places just got used to stink. They just became "nose blind" to it just for the sake of survival. People often go blind to their own body odder even today. And with sludge and sewer so common and everywhere I can see people being like "what's the point" when you just get dirty all over again as soon as you step out of the bath.
I won't say places like London didn't try though, there are records of street cleaners, but it was unending battle when you don't know what to properly do with the waste.
Most Ancient societies knew the difference between good and bad water. They also knew how to purify and sanitize water using Herbs, fruits and trees
Proper hand Washing and sensitization of surfaces would have went a very very long way back then
Sometimes I find it hard to believe that my Nan lived in Shoreditch at the time Jack the Ripper was haunting the streets. She was only 7 but she had 6 older sisters it must have been a terrifying for her family.
WOW!
Wow! Did she ever say anything or tell any stories about her experience? I'm sure it all must've been absolutely terrifying. 🤭🤔
@@titsandwich1842 We know that now but at the time" murder was afoot and the fear of death was everywhere" Having slashed up bodies on your local streets with no idea what was happening must have been terrifying for Jan's Nan and all around. I would have been terrified as a kid.
When did your nan pass?
That's mental!! Very cool in an extremely macabre way lol
This was absolutely excellent. The inclusion of the artwork was a wonderful touch. The narrator was just splendid, really captured the essence of story-telling. I really hope you guys do more of historic murders/crimes.
A TV program that's why
Wasn't he just.
Delicious.
@balthiersgirl2658 I used to enjoy this on TV, I wished they did more of them
A bad narrator - overly wrought, for example - will stop me listening in about 5 minutes. A talented narrator will have me clamoring for more.
A great tale and I love this narrator. He really knows how to use his voice. Good job.
I know he's a professional actor, but what's his name?
@@mikewilliams4438 That would be Sir Michael Caine.
@@mikewilliams4438 The narrator is Nicholas Day.
@@petefromyesterday Correct: Nicholas Day.
Nicholas Day (his name is listed at the beginning credits) is an accomplished British actor who has appeared in 74 film and tv productions, including The Crown, Midsummer Murders, Rosemary & Thyme, Inspector Linley...
Me: Wow it's messed up how these people were obsessed with crime and witnessing an execution!
Also me: watching Real Crime cases
Its the same 😂
One of the most relatable comments I've ever seen.
Yep, yep, yep. Right there with you!
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😂😂😂 you’ve made me think! Maybe I would’ve been one of those old ladies that took along their knitting to watch an execution? No I don’t really think so!
I love how this guy tells a story. He pulls u in so magnificently, so vividly that u feel like ur walking the streets with the ppl. U feel like ur one of the cops trying to Crack a case. U feel like the killer, stalking his prey. Or the victim feeling stalked n afraid.
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@@rajpalyadav420 Canada.
I absolutely love Murder Maps
This is part of murder maps?! I've seen it lmao and still I'm like O.O Ahahaha I've seen so many now that I forgot some, ah well at least I know it's gonna be good and not some obscure garbage I found. I've seen so many terrible horror movies too xD
Edit I just noticed the title ahaha can you tell how tired I am? 😂
@@IveGotItTwisted this is like the first or second episode of murder maps.
Is it not on Netflix anymore? I thought it was a Netflix show.
@@nekograce7914 It WAS but unfortunately it has gone the way of so many things on Netflix and vanished from the platform 😔
Most horrifying is that the Thames being sewage and the source of drinking water.
That was about 170 years ago! I don't think it is nowadays. However despite some improvements, London is still absolutely filthy.
Did you really think clean water was always there by the grace of god. No it took time and great minds to work it out. London was one of first countries who got clean water and sewers
@@ellymay1455 yeah I really did /sarcasm
@@ellymay1455 Clean water WAS there before humans made it filthy.
@@mfjdv2020 Its not that bad!
Spectacular work by the actors/staff of this production! It certainly kept me watching while learning some recent British history! And thanks for posting this series, it's so great to have access to varieties of productions from around the world now! It was a LOT of (expensive) work, to do this, in the daze of of eight foot diameter microwave dishes, analog, and C format/VHS/Pro Beta!
It's amazing how homicide detectives some centuries ago were that good they could solve a murder case within a week, they even used dental works to identity the body, that was forensics at its infancy.
Ikr
Actually, ‘dental work’ mostly meant pulling teeth, but the placement of the voids could have been a clue, of course.
A lot of innocent people were hung also.
@@eunicestone838 ''Hanged'' madam, not hung!
@@eunicestone838 but were they well hung?
Now I loved this! If this was a series I would love to see the other episodes. That narrator is a winner!
I watched the series on Netflix!
Murder maps
It's all over you Tube too.
PBS
There is another series he's in called Myths and Monsters. It's a lot of fun!
absolutely rivetting and professional. Looking forward to more episodes. Narration perfect.
Im glad i found this channel, I need some new documentaries to watch. This place has hours upon hours worth.
She was so foolish. She was happy until she believed the nonsense of one man. All she had to do was ask her employer about possible suitors who are rich, and give his name. She could tell her if that's true.
As fortunate as she was, she should've waited for better prospects.
Even worse, she killed the very man who could get her out of her miserable situation
that's what i thought when i watched it.
Exactly!!
She was a psychopath. Simplest answer. It’s not all reason. These kinds of Criminals are driven by urges, basically, they are narcissists. They want what they want and will do anything to get it. One thing leads to another. The liar will steal and the thief will kill.
Why did she kill the wrong man ?!!!!!
@@joyspettigue2855 I didn't know about the case and thought at first that she was going to kill her alcoholic husband
Murder Maps is one of my all time favorite true crime series!
I think Marie killed the wrong guy.
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Pretty much, I'd say 😀
@@rheinhartsilvento2576 😂
Yes, I thought she'd aim the gun at her husband at the last second. I'd have killed him!
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Surprising how quickly the murderers were located and arrested. They didn't have photography back then, yet they were identified by others based on their written published descriptions. You would think that they could have faded into the crowds and disappeared.
That Mrs. Manning was identified is less surprising, given that it appears that she had a French accent, easily identifiable as foreign and European.
Maybe sketches of them were published. But even then, I'm still surprised at how quickly the husband at least, who didn't have a foreign accent, were tracked down. Maybe he had a more unusual or distinctive appearance?
They both should have headed to a port city, some city that was teeming with transient people and new arrivals. Why didn't Maria at least, get herself over to France? It's the closest foreign country, and she spoke French.
I think they both underestimated the abilities of the police, and to be fair, the work they did on this case and their ability to track them down so quickly was pretty impressive for the times.
@@SY-ok2dq Wasn't she Swiss? Not French?
They DID have photography.....have you not seen the photos of the Ripper victims.
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@@SY-ok2dq Edinburgh was as far away as another land in those days, I'd imagine she was very shocked at being found.
It amazes me how people of all cultures don't see the mistake of putting sewage into their source of drinking water! Craziness
Disgusting huh
Susan Jane: Looks like people if nothing else would not like the idea of drinking their own or other peoples defecation and urine.
@Fred Smith I know for sure that I wouldn't drink water from where sewage has been put into unless there was a water filtration system to remove fecal matter and urine.
My ancestors valued fresh everything. When their living area started to get nasty, they would pick up and move.
Why the fuck does anyone want to live in any fucking city stacked on top of eachother like that is beyond me. I grew up on a farm in Kentucky, it was hard sometimes, but still pretty great. We never put our outhouse within 100 yards of the well, you just don't want to do that. When I was 9 the folks sold the farm and bought two bars in Lexington, the rest of my youth was spent there. It was pretty great too. After school I worked in Cincinnati for a year and a half, then moved to San Francisco Bay Area. Little bit of culture shock, not too bad.
Got sick a few times when I first got there. Being exposed to all kinds of shit, it took a little while build up immunity to all that bullshit, after 6 months I never had any more problems with the exception of H1N1, that sucked, but it was also 15 years later too.
Anyway, I did well, made a shit-ton of money, but there's just too many fucking people there!!
I couldn't take that shit anymore!!
I had grown to hate being there, and was just fucking miserable, so I sold my company and moved to Nor-Cal, the Trinity Alps.
FUCKING AWESOME!!
I would go weeks at a time without seeing ANYONE!! Beautiful!!
3 years ago I had to move to Florida for my mother, I love her, but I really fucking hate it here, Sarasota isn't even really that big, but still, THERE'S WAY TOO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE HERE ALL STACKED UP ON TOP OF EACHOTHER!!!!
WHAT THE FUCK!?!
WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE BEING SO FUCKING CLOSE TO OTHER PEOPLE!?!
THIS WHOLE STATE SMELLS LIKE THE THAMES RIVER BANK!!
The best coverage of the Bermondsey Horror that I've seen so far. Poor Patrick O'Connor .
This is a fantastic production thank you for everything.
Damn...you make me stay up the whole night. Your videos are so irresistible. Keep it coming!
Why did she kill the man that would have treated her better than her alcoholic husband? She should have divorced and married Patrick. I know things were different back then but she should have left her husband. I never 👎🏽 want to witness an execution, it’s seems awful 😞. So sad, she choose the WRONG husband. I did love the PBS interpretation of Bleak House.
in victorian era women were properties they didn’t have a right even to own their house or their inheritance unless they were married. divorce was an option only for rich men and only if parliament approved it. so no. she couldn’t leave her husband or run away with rich guy or divorce that alcoholic piece. women endured much pain in those times.
@@gondolin12 I agree with most of what you say, but she could certainly have left her husband if she wanted to. She wouldn’t have been able to get a divorce, but even in that era women could and did leave unhappy marriages.
I loved Bleak House.
Bleak House goes right along with Nicholas Nickleby.
I'll have to check it out. Martin Chezzlewit is awesome!
I LOVE ❤️ this programme!!! As Dicken's Oliver Twist would say, "More please "
He has more videos, they are under the title of murder maps. Hope you enjoy them.
Yeah and he got kicked out into the streets for asking for more knowing he would but the older boys were going to beat him to a bloody pulp. Still want some more?
@@AmandaHugandKiss411 yes please sir may i have some more?
Talking of Oliver Twist I got to play him in a silent version. Of the film. I couldn’t have asked for more 👌❤️
@Rulya קארן Mórrigan did you understand the joke. There’s a part in the musical we’re Oliver asks for more food and is severely reprimanded So my joke was it was a silent movie and I couldn’t have asked for more. I hope you have now got the joke 👌👌👌❤️❤️
I really don’t understand how any human beings think money is worth more than a life
Because it is. I'm slowly dying because i cant afford $6,000 for surgery. I wont live to 40, i got 6 years left, max. Ppl spend more on a pair of shoes or purse than my entire life is worth... ppl who say you can't place a monetary value on life have obviously never been sick in America...
It is more important to you, it's a sorry world when you can't get surgery for your life because of money, I would be in the same situation if my health was not good, I'm financially poor, but thankfully health rich, I hope it's not too painful for you, I do have an OUT if the tables turn, be prepared!
@@nomdeplume2213 Oh honey,I am so sorry for you.I know it's not worth much,but will send u healing thoughts & love & hope u have a loyal & caring family around you.Peace. 🕊️ x
One of the best tellings of this tale that I've heard. Thank you for such a quality presentation.
For some reason, a woman murdering after seducing a man, is more disturbing to me than other murders.
Remarkable narration of an old crime story.
Fantastic presentation, thank you.
I love a social history lesson from a talented teacher, with real life case studies woven in and this had everything, including Charles Dickens, whose work I love.
His Hortense in Bleak House is a creepy and memorable character.
"Please Sir, I want some more"😁🇦🇺
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Yes, these Nicholas Day's tales are choral, varying in tone
I would have taken Patrick's help to get rid off my no good husband Frederick and not the other way around . The murder was not the mistake ; who was murdered , was .
+ Taps Ars I thought that Marie and Patrick were going to murder the drunkard husband. I was shocked when Marie shot Patrick!!!🤷🏾
@@liesdamnliesandstatsweird1934 me too I was shocked 😮
she didnt want patrick. she wanted money and to be alone
@@julianakleijn9254 Very true . If she had cared for Patrick genuinely then he would have found a way to get rid of the drunkard Frederick and they could have been together forever . Patrick would have kept her in style . Which sort of idiot kills a financially strong man with the help of a penniless drunkard ???
@@barbarazurek4648 How do you know that Patrick had no teeth ?
The narrator is simply splendid
I just saw another series he's in called "Myths and Monsters". Lots of cool stories, cool art and his awesome narrating!
Dickens was no angel; the way he treated his wife was appalling.
Like Dr. Martin Luther King! I used to idolise that man, until I recently found out that he would not permit his wife to join the civil rights movement, although she desperately wanted to. Makes you think. Equality for all citizens??
@@mfjdv2020 Did you ever think he wanted her to say alive to raise the kids. He KNEW he was gonna get killed.
@@mfjdv2020 He was a womanizer, for that he was trash but he kept her home for the safety of her and the children. How can you be this nonsensical?
@@mfjdv2020 If that's the worst thing you can say about him, the man's an angel. Well, he was no angel but he was a good man, important for the civil rights movement. He's done more for the nation than those who criticize him have done.
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actually it would have been very dangerous for her and he knew it . . .
I used to love MLK Jr, but became disillusioned when I found out he had a love affair while he was married . . .
I'm out . . .
Thank you, I've watched all of your videos twice. Your a fantastic story teller
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Awesome, and thank you for sharing it with us.
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I’ve heard this crime covered elsewhere, but it definitely wasn’t done this well!
This kind of story telling makes me proud to be British.
What an excellent narrator for these true crime tales, absolutely fascinating!!!🙏😢
This narration is amazing!
Well documented and narrated, I like crime stories non fiction. I am subscribing!
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Me too
Great stories Also , his voice is just right for these presentation
I didn't see that coming. What a twist. What a tale and excellently told.
Now I remember why I don’t subscribe to this channel: I can’t listen to it while I lay down. There is no narrator, so you have to be actively watching this.
That was an excellent documentary, thank you very much.
Great quality piece of work. Thank you.
What a fabulous production, thank you!
Highly interesting & well presented...TY *Real Crime* ...loved this👍👍👍👍👍🎬
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I love Charles Dickens, super happy to see you cover this.
Which of the Dickens books? We had to read them all for English Honours and I started with 'Sketches by Boz' and read right through to 'The mystery of Edwin Drood'.
@@corneliawissing7950 wow, quite an accomplishment!
@@peggyjaeger9280 , In my time, the Prof. said: 'Read this' and one did. We read from Plautus, through Sophocles and Aristophanes right to Shakespeare and D.H. Lawrence ... that was simply the given syllabus for an Honours degree in English. It never dawned on us that one could enrol at uni and insist on not doing that amount of work! Or insist on changing the syllabus to our taste. We were students, not activists and knew nothing about being woke.
@@corneliawissing7950 You had an excellent education. I didn’t know what I wanted in college and I was kind of slow. I just love to read and am not good on tests. My tastes are all over the place so I read a lot of different authors and genres. Dickens books are long so I have only read a few. I do enjoy getting lost in his world. He really brings it to life! Will have to read Bleak House now!
@@peggyjaeger9280 , I wanted, more than anything else, to read and know. I still read: classics to sci-fi to true crime to history ... I think the best thing that ever happened to me was that I was given a bursary-loan to attend uni. (The bursary part one worked back, the loan part one paid back.) The most wonderful thing was the day the rector spoke to the 1st year students: part of the initiation. He explained that whether we had loans, or bursaries or wealthy parents, the state also supported our study, from taxpayer money. Therefore, whatever qualification we were pursuing, and whatever part of the country we were going to work in, we had a debt to pay. We owed the local farmer, and grocer and doctor and policeman a debt of gratitude for enabling us and we were obligated to give back of what they'd given us. At 78 years old, I still give back, even if I only explain active and passive to a child. I had, indeed, a good education and it was more than literature!
Sir Robert Peel (1788-1850) a Skillful Politican became Home Secretary in 1822, and carefully made police reforms without arousing the public fear of intimidation.
He believed in crime prevention rather than relieving on punishment as a deterrent.
In 1829, Legislation was passed by Parliament to establish the Metropolitan Police in London, a single Force for an area roughly within a circle of seven miles from the centre of London.
Sir Charles Rowan & Sir Richard Mayne became the first joint Commissioners with their Headquarters in for Whitehall Place known as Scotland Yard.
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
This was a really stupid crime.
But the actress captured Marie Manning just exactly as I imagined her when I first heard this story.
Stupid as in the two were stupid enough to think they could get away with murder? Or as stupid as the crime of murder?
Hopefully the former.
I think Marie Manning was stuoid because she'd have gained more if she'd just left william for O'connor
Most criminals are stupid irl.
@@sophia-logos5348 yes. She killed the goose that laid the golden eggs.
Fine story telling. I couldn't walk away until the end had been completed. Thank you!
Brilliant narrator! would love to hear audiobooks from him
As someone said of him on another video, he could read the AT&T terms and conditions and we'd be riveted.
Bleak House is the one Dickens’ tale I couldn’t bring myself to read. He was just too good at evoking an atmosphere that I wasn’t willing to visit.
This narrator is fabulous!
Who is the narrator, please? He is excellent. A very well presented program. Our taste for bloody
and gruesome crimes has not abated - at least they are on film and not live. But mobs have often
cheered about cruel and unusual crimes and punishments. See the French Revolution, among
other mass ogling of gruesome executions. Sadly, brutality seems to be part of our history and
they have a weird fascination for us.
On IMDB it say Nicholas Day is the presenter.
Mob hysteria?
love this narrator.. a great story teller
Beautifully done! Great vid! Thank you
Gosh, Victorian England had a lot of insane serial killers.
Hardly surprising really. The Victorian age was brutal, inhuman and disgustingly hypocritical. Children lay dead on the streets in the poor quarters and venereal disease (especially syphilis) was rife, to name but two horrific examples. In my opinion this was the absolute worst age in recent British history.
Being an alcoholic was healthier then drinking the water. As far as Mrs Manning goes for someone who claimed not to have committed murder she sure wasn't against trying to profit from it.
Thomas Wainwright was transported to Tasmania. He was a gifted writer and artist - His portraits of the colonists are especially interesting. Beautiful and delicate, somewhat somber and strange.
In the light of his crimes they have a surreal air.
Amazing he was able to work at all after being put in the road gangs. Notoriously brutal conditions.
His crimes however were also brutal.
He died from a stroke aged 53.
So the people down under are descendants from criminals? Not surprised at all.
The best videos start right off with the story. No annoying music. No random yaking unrelated to the story. No hoolie goolie about horrors in the night.
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I'd be curious to see any number of ancient estates an castles luminoled
Thank you for this and all your other videos. Wish you luck and wisdom while dealing with your bad situation
It just goes to show that we haven't changed our fascination with murder and the punishment given. Only today, we can't turn up to be entertained with the supposed justice (a life for a life).
Best reports and BEST NARRATION EVER!!! THANKS
The best part was hearing him say "dark side". Very Palpatine. 😄
Love this show England is has a interesting history going back hundreds of years. Love from America
Well that was a quick and proper trial. If they were in our time, they would most likely spend a few years in prison and then be released. Now criminals have more rights than their victims. There is a paranoia in the delivery of justice
Very Interesting and Informative...I like the Narration by Nicholas Day...An Interesting Fact I learned today that Urine was used for Tanning Process.
I can just imagine the Stench, and it's also Very Unsanitary.
People got paid to contribute their urine when the tanneries were running short!
Makes me wonder how many others reside under the kitchen flagstones of our quaint old London homes 😈
Thanks again for an intriguing story full of suspense and narrated excellently. Must say that those public hangings must have been scary to witness. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
The difference between the haves and the have nots. 😔 While the haves sit in their castles and the have nots do anything to survive. Nothing has changed in the 21st century. The world is a sad and messed up place. 🥺💔✌️
I tell People all the time. We are still a class Society. Just under cover. And not right in your face like it used to be.
Sad that you blame your status in life on other people. You'd be more correct in blaming politicians.
Agree
@@maureenspano6988 In south Britain they are still unashamedly obsessed by 'class'. The English can't open their mouths without saying the word 'class' in some context or other.
Everyday people lived longer and better lives in towns and areas outside of London in the 18th century . There was common land to grow crops and raise animals for dairy or for food. The taking away of the commons by British wealthy and nobility for their pompous ass farming and sheep and whatever grazing, drove rural and small town workers into London . Industrialization in the All out capitalism of the type for the richest , terrible work conditions, long all week work in shops, children too in the mills and shops , no relief , etc drove a lot more poor people to suicide than were murdered . and their were a lot more murders of the poor nobody cared about left unsolved.
Squonk tears:Childhood,real childhood as we know it,only really began in the C20.Before that,children were expected to work asap to keep the family.And rich children were hampered by etiquette & learning to make good marriages to enrich the family status & coffers.
15:12 More a reference to Poe instead of Dickens, but this part reminded me of "The Telltale Heart"
I'm loving this channel. The narrator. The pictures. The story itself here. Thank you.
The narrator is British actor Nicholas Day. Catch him in a television series called Minder, from the 1990s where he plays a police inspector, it is quite amusing. ^^
i'm sure this is even more gruesome than when it was on tv!! wouldn't surprise me if they'd had to cut a couple of shots to get it shown at the time.
Murder Maps has become one of my favourite series!
Why didn't she just leave her husband for Patrick??
As always. Money and status.
If she did that, we wouldn't be watching this video about her 172 years later, would we ? 😂🤔
Great narrator,he makes the story very intriguing 💖💯🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
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Hi Canada,where u from?
This was very well done, overall, and the actors in the dramatization were very convincing, despite the extremely cheesy “blood” graphics, etc. One major point is lacking, however, and that is the explanation of the murder of the wrong man! I should have thought that, had Maria murdered her husband with her lover, then she would have had a much better chance at getting away with it, her lover being far more intelligent than her husband. At that point, she was sure of her lover’s wealth, and marriage to him instead of a chronic alcoholic would have given her a much better life, in my opinion! Maybe her nature required her to exert control over the man she was with, but she made so many stupid mistakes that a clearer head was obviously needed.
I agree.... she should have stuck with the smart, wealthy lover!
I thought the same thing... why didn't she murder the drunk an she wouldn't have had to done any work after that..
That's the real mystery ...why did she choose the guy she did, instead of the guy with money? And even if she'd been misled by Manning's promise of wealth, once she found out, why not leave him? So much not known here
Brilliant story, makes me wonder if any of my ancestors brutally killed anyone, makes me shiver at the very thought🌿🌷
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🤔 haha indeed, I'm still young. 😀👍
Well if you're British... they most likely did.
Of course at least one of your ancestors has killed someone. Think of how many people you are related to...and then the apes you are related to before they became humans. Lol
Hello Linda,how are you doing?
I live off Bermondsey Rd in Toronto. Thats what drew me here.
Boy my feet are sore from walking and I’m ready to go to sleep. I’ve nearly done 4 hours of not smoking. I watch true crime documentaries every day and I wonder what will be so shocking about the case that inspired Charles Dickens.
Here's a History Fact.
A Major - Problem at the Time with during the Victorian Era was Drunkenness!
Amongst the people of the public and the police themselves.
Many of the original Peelers were dismissed within ten years for being drunk on duty!
As well as arresting drunks, the Constables had to cope with all manner of public duties, including Fighting Fires, Breaking up fights in streets or lanes, Petty Felony, as well as Serious Crime.
The new police tended to be Thief Catchers, not Detectives.
You couldn't drink the water so everyone drank wine beer liquor even the children
The premise of this story is nothing new - married woman has an affair, then she and her husband kill her lover for profit. They were just as sloppy as most killers, and were hanged for their deed. Just ask Mr Sherlock Holmes.
steemdup.....
Works both ways, not aways the wifey that has the affair.
Spoiler!
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I think drinking alcohol would probably help keep off the cholera if it made you drink less water.
I suppose it depended how much you drank.
Too much and you'd be thirsty again.
I believe it was in Kentucky, in one if the cholera epidemics, the town drunk became a local hero. He never caught it because he never drank water. He took it upon himself to collect the bodies of the dead, took them to the cemeteries, and buried them. No one asked him to do it, or ordered him. Everyone else was too sick or too scared to take care of the bodies. After the epidemic, he went back to being a drunken layabout.
Ikree R help when it counts right?
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@@ikreer9777 But he was a fantastic man and a true hero when he was really needed, and that's what matters.
Amazing! Extraordinary! Fascinating! Thank you!
I love watching murder maps 🧐.Great actors and actresses
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@@sambotros1918 What the f is that???
What an excellent production and high quality acting.
interesting story but I'm horrified how awful it was to live in those times 😢😢
Some situations in England aren't a whole lot better today.
I love these I wished I had a UA-cam when I was a teen. I would of really enjoy these
Thank heavens, a British narrator.
A splendid English narrator not British, my ancestors were Britons.
@@aevans-jl9ym My ancestors are also Brythons and Gaels. Possibly this narrator's ancestors are Native Britons as well.
Wow how did they survive drinking poop water from the Thames!? I love the atmosphere you guys create in telling yr stories. It's very English. I love England! ❤
Love from New Zealand 🇳🇿 ❤.
I lived in Bermondsey for many years . Before they built it up . I preferred the old way . That was my home
Hello Maggie,how are you doing?
Lived in Barkworth Road in 1969 before it was reduced to rubble.
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No British judge would use the word 'HUNG' in the sentencing to death; it was always correctly stated 'hanged'. British judges have NEVER used a gavel either... And as for that wig...😀
Facinating. I like historical re-enactment. It shows that the historian tries to understand the social climate of the day. Not so different from what we deal with right now. Thanks so much for sharing. Very good. J.
Well this was fascinating and well done!
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Loving this vid I see you did your history digging
Looking at the blood splatter in the murder scene makes me wonder if the house is still standing if anything remains.
I can’t imagine there would be hangings these days, even if you knew without a doubt that the murderer did it for no defensive purpose.
Also just have to say the background music is really pretty at times.
Probably demolished during Victorian slum clearance or destroyed during the Blitz.
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London is as violent now as it ever was. The difference between back then and now is that back then there was justice. When crimes were committed back then, there was also punishment given to those who perpetrated the crimes, thus maintaining the moral balance of the society. Unfortunately, in modern London, there's plenty of crime, but very little punishment.
In modern London there are very few Londoners.