It’s gonna be interesting if/when conversion installation costs could get down to $20,000-$30,000. Would love to see lots of older vehicles on the road again.
@@Neightlive This type of conversion should warm any prepper's heart. If you have some solar panels you have an infinite range around your compound and never have to visit a gas station in civilization again.
Yea it sounds good......But the Numbers are terrible. Honestly......The cost for the range of something that heavy is totally useless. Only worth an attaboy for being green....if that matters to you....But even at that it is not really. I am pretty experienced with this and that sucker probably has a range of 100 miles. Load it full of lumber and cut that in half....then wait about 10 hours to recharge. With that kind of weight the battery life will be terrible too....Get out the steam shovel and harvest some more lithium.....Hey electric cars are GREAT for commuting but converting classics and long range they are good for sticking out your chest and Talking to your hommies about how green you are and that is about it.
Yeah me too lol! I make 20,000 to 35,000 a year depending on the weather in the winter and wet season. I will never be able to afford it. Guess I am getting a 🐎 😆
Nope not 80k I do the math that’s not true ! Don’t be fool he really wants to sell the truck to someone who think it cost 80k !! Don’t listen do the ev lies trust me !!! It’s all for you tube views and sells it don’t cost that much !!
@@jesualdocortez6426 it will i have a g550 eats 110 in gas a week so i think i want to convert the mercedes gl550 to all ev. its all wheel drive i would love to try it if inhad the parts for sure.
TFL has done what many enthusiasts wish they could do. Keep a nice piece of steel on the road with a modern driveline. I’m not an electric fanboy living/working in pretty rural areas but I would definitely drive something like this 👍
It was awesome to meet Andrey and see this truck in person today. Thank you for being so kind and welcoming. It was a pleasure. This was a very cool rig to see and get inside of today at Cars and Coffee. - Luke
I drive a Hemi Ram and a Bolt EV so this is a very cool amalgamation or the two types. I love that you are giving that cool old truck new life. It’s like putting an SSD in an older computer to squeeze out more performance from older hardware. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.
I feel ya. I drive a classic military K5 Blazer (M1009) and a Bolt EV lol. The Blazer is for "real work" and the Bolt EV is for daily. After driving in EV's... I really wouldn't want to commute with the 6.2L Detroit Diesel lol. It's great for "doin stuff", but the classics just aren't practical for daily use.
And who knows how many more miles to offset the coal that's burned to generate the electricity for that virtue signal mobile. I bet the clapped out inline 6 was more efficient than this rolling pile
Did I see the original single-cylinder brake master? 😬 And front drums with orig steering too I bet. With the acceleration that truck has now (+ more weight) I would think improved handling/stopping might be in order?
All really well done except the charge port, looks like the were like “uhhh okay all done except the charge port, ehhhh just slap it on there!” Would have been nice if they put in CCS that blends in better
Its where the fuel tank filler use to be. Id say they kept it that way for that reason Owning one of this model F250s I think it is cool they used the same spot.
That black plastic kills the look. Maybe they could have done like a hidden panel behind the license plate or something. That was a common location for a fuel door in that era.
@@DanielBoger Yep, I was thinking maybe even just take a chrome fuel door off another truck and putting the J1772 plug under it. A great thing about electricity over gas is you don’t have to worry about gravity so you can put the connector wherever you want.
AWESOME conversion! I swapped a Suzuki Sidekick with 1X of those Hyper9 motors for a tiny fraction of the price. I’ve got a few videos on my channel if you’re interested. The range isn’t super, but the drivability is MUCH improved.
I think converting smaller, lighter vehicles that don't need half to three quarter ton battery packs will be the key for many. People concerned about the cost can sacrifice performance and save a fortune (and still be usable). Moving a big heavy truck with sportscar performance is going to cost a lot no matter how you do it.
I have mixed feelings about this. I'm sad to see a classic with such a [historically] good motor get retired, but I also love that you can keep the classic body intact and still use it basically the way it was. This conversion would be PERFECT for me as both a daily driver and as a general house truck, as long as it gets at least 120 miles per charge and could charge to full overnight (~8 hours). I'm sure that's true of most people. I would love to see more EV conversions, and I wish the government incentive money would go towards this instead of brand new vehicles. This is truly better for the environment! Taking a near-death vehicle and bringing it back to life.
120 miles is a hope and a prayer on level ground at 45 mph....Factor in some hills and putting anything in the bed drive a bit faster and that will significantly change. Great for around town. take it on a road trip Useless......want a great commuter buy a tesla or ID4. then your doing something.
@@Mikefngarage using that argument, what's the point of the commuter car too? By the time you account for the energy it takes to build, go find a V8 pickup. I've been seeing if an electric would work as my next commuter, and truly, it's more economical to buy a V6 or V8 pickup in terms of cost, dependability, and longevity. I could buy 2 pickup trucks for the price of most electric cars, and the truck lasts 3 times longer (with proper maintenance). I own a 4 cylinders Ford Focus right now, and although it's the most dependable car I've driven, I'm understanding why people go for the large pickups - part of it is that they can last 20 years or more.
I hear ya!! I have a '37 Plymouth pick-up truck and I'm really wanting to convert it to EV.....but I get that a lot: you're destroying automotive history, you're ruining the value, you're taking away the nostalgia. It weighs heavy on my heart but that said, I have to add that the OEM system sucks! No power steering, very lousy brakes (we take hydraulic disc for granted!!!!), doesn't always like to start, can't do more than 60mph, have to double-clutch and it still grinds going into 1st, drips oil incessantly, constant issues with fuel pump and carburetor.....the truck is so finnicky that NOBODY wants to drive it except me! And every time I drive it I have to HOPE it won't have an issue. So yeah, going to EV would be amazing and it's just making some old new again. I wanna do it but now trying to find a shop is a nightmare
@@stevereisman6872 diesel conversion is good too.....The thing to know is your Range is going to totally suck with electric. If your max driving it is around 100 miles of less it might be Ok. nights and hills will take away from that. then charging it will take 8 hours from there. So it does take some planning. Put a cummins in there with a later model trans and you get pretty good MPG and reliable.
@@stevereisman6872 dude that sounds like a freakin’ awesome truck! But yeah, I tend to forget about all the maintenance needed just to keep a classic like that going. That is where electric will be better. However, I work in IT for a living and electric cars worry me for the computer issues that could potentially happen (and those associated costs).
Good job making an oversized, overweight golfcart. Just because something can be converted to electric doesn't mean it should be. At least you did this to a Ford.
I don't subscribe to the EV religion like many people BUT I think this is a great application for an after market system. That thing would be great to tool around town, go to Home Depot etc. I wouldn't want to take it on a long trip. Imagine taking it to a classic car show at your local 50s diner!!
I know a guy with a single Hyper 9 converted 1965 Ford Cortina Mk 1 that he takes for shows. Gets everyone's attention for sure but when they see it for real they are mostly very keen to know all about it.
Calling it a religion is a bit unfair. Just as there an enthusiastic fans of “Hemi”, “V8 (or more)”. “XxxxxHP”, “rolling coal”. There are fans of ev for many reasons. With todays tech, it is fine for many people, with the near term expected tech, most people. If anything, it those holding onto the old, and spewing outdated information is the religious zealots.
@@Mikefngarage Conversions like this have nothing to do with an attempt at being green. It's more about tinkering/hotrodding type fun. Mashing up new and old tech. Trying new things. Doing it just because it's new and different and a challenge to put it together in a fun, unexpected and new way.
Ever rebuild a classic vehicle. To make this a showroom example just for the body would be somewhere over $30,000 or even $40,000 if you don’t do the work yourself. The painting alone will be over $10,000, even $15,000 for show quality. Then the interior will be a couple of thousand, and a proper replacement drive train would be $5,000 to $12,000 depending on what you replace the dump truck motor with. I’ve done classic original numbers matching 6 cylinder trucks that were nice trucks. They stayed original because they were nice examples. This is not exactly a nice example or original prior to the EV conversion. It’s immensely better now and, yes it was expensive, but full on restorods are!
@@danthompson1467 - they are in the job of generating revenue by videos watched, advertising time etc. this does none of that sitting doing nothing. They did what will generate views and discussions.
@@shitloveaduck I dont know what you're talking about. Paint and primer for my 1966 f250 (arcadian blue, Wimbledon white) cost me $700. 15 grand for a paint job? Yeah. Some sleaze bags will ask that much. I had one shop quote me 25k for a paintjob. As with everything in life, your paying the administrative and labor costs of getting something done, not the materials.
I learnt to drive on my Dad’s ’66 3/4 ton Chevy pickup. I still shake my head at how that beast would now be considered a classic. But even I sometimes look at the occasional one on the road with nostalgia.
We use those old 300’s in the oil field here in East Texas. They run 24 hours a day seven days a week at about 1800 RPMs under a load and when the weights come around and the rods go down it governs out at 2200 RPMs. I think if we did the math if you could average 45 miles an hour every day for an entire year 24 hours a day I think that averaged out to 390,000 miles a year and we have some that last about three years before they start smoking. Cost you about $180 in parts to rebuild it in the field, new main bearings rings pistons and a new head gasket and you’re back in business again. And with them running on casing head gas which is almost the same as natural gas but slightly wetter The heads and valves almost look like the day you put them in there.
Much different from actually driving them. You are talking about a constant variable torque. It has a very set pattern with no spikes, long idle times (the worst for the 6s), over revving etc. they are long lasting motors and the fuel you use is a by product. This truck was going to be lucky to get maybe 11 mpg with that old 6 cylinder. Not a great restoration, on a truck that was already far from original. I fully understand the longevity though. We ran pump motors for irrigation and generally International 345s and 549s they ran for days flat out!! At night you could see the exhaust stacks glowing red,,,,,,. Ran them all summer sometimes only shutting them down for oil changes, oil cooler rebuilds and, if they survived, a couple of rebuilds. Very similar, but like driving 120 mph as hard as you can, uphill with a headwind!!! Hahaha. We never calculated the miles, but I don’t doubt similar. Yet have the same motors in an old international pickup and they didn’t last well at all. Maybe 100,000 miles before needing a rebuild.
@@shitloveaduck we have two old wells that have 1974 model international harvester 304 V8’s on them. The front cylinder on one side, and the back cylinder on the other side have compressor pistons in them. Those two cylinders are used for compressed air as a makeshift gas lift for adjacent whales to help run a plunger. I know one of the 304’s has been rebuilt 14 times since 1978 when they were placed on the pumping unit. One of the old wells has a old Buick “ nailhead” 322 on it. The old pumper that died out there probably 30 years ago told me that it came out of a 1954 Buick roadmaster. He said that car had 100,000 miles on it and was wrecked they pull the motor out of it and stuck it on that pumping unit and it ran for six more years before it needed rebuilt. 😎
I like the idea of this kind of conversion, because you can have the electric driveline without being forced to choose the least ugly vehicle to you. This old Ford looks better than anything Ford, Chevy or Dodge is currently selling us for damn near $80k already.
And the 300 engine was still running 57 yrs later despite needing a rebuild it was running. What will the batteries condition be in 50yrs or even 25yrs ?
Battery tech has come a long way in the last 20 years and will continue to improve. They'll get lighter, longer lasting and have more power density. But you can continue to grow into the grumpy old guy. Back in my day our cars had 100s of parts that would constantly wear out and need replaced to keep the car running.
@@zinc466 Batteries have made minor improvements. Most of what people see is not actually technological advancement, but rather logistical advances. It's easy to fall into the trap of imagining things improving at a steady pace the way they seem to be at any given moment. They just as easily may not. What they are today is crazy expensive, short lived, short capacity, heavy, and last but not least incredibly damaging to the environment. Electric drive is cool, but battery powered is a novelty.
@@zinc466 If someone wants to spend 80k on a electric conversion that isn’t efficient range wise from the get go it’s their money what do I care. Got nothing against Ev’s but 80k ? And you act like just because the engine was removed nothing will ever break or need maintenance. 20 yrs down the road when you want to sell it you can put in the description “ just needs a battery to run “. Lol I owned a 65 f100 in the early 90’s and was the reason I watched the video and gave it a thumbs up. So who’s the grumpy old Jackass ? Not me I just stated facts and you seem to be the defensive one. Yes batteries tech has come a long way but then again in 20yrs a total electric car could be obsolete….. Hydrogen or something else for example.
Only thing is that the E100 is a van. The Ford E series was the Econoline van, they are still in production as a cab/chassis for R.V. Ambulance, and box truck applications.
Would it be worse to LS swap a Ford? Some would have a heart attack at that idea too. I think it's cool! It's all about taste. Some will definitely hate it, but I like the idea of keeping a classic going and seeing new(er) ideas come to the resto-mod scene.
$80K to convert an old rattlie truck, or you can buy a new higher trim F150 Lighting (or 2 base models) for the same price, wtf Cool conversion but man I feel like you just got ripped off.
Didn’t cost them the $80K, just the truck itself was donated by TFL. The other 2 partners chipped in for the power conversion. That’s what it would cost you! I have spent well over $25K Canadian on just a motor and transmission on a pro street 74 C10. It depends on your individual tastes. I had no chance of getting the full $25K back. Put a brand new interior for a couple of grand, sort some of the rattles out, maybe a satin clear coat and put this up at Barrett Jackson. The EV conversion is of high quality. They could very well make money. It’s the current trend.
The American F100,150, 250 etc in my mind are perfect EV conversion targets. They have the load capacity and the room for all the parts needed and since they are not long distance vehicles anymore in any reality, even with modern V8's, this is the perfect future for them. After my w124 Merc, Id love to do an F100/150 as they were also build by Ford Australia (Brisbane is home) up to the early 90's. I'm keen for a 1975. Can't wait for the build videos.
YEA.....Until you factor in the weight.....Drops the range. significantly....take it on the freeway at 60 or 70 and the range is useless. maybe 100 miles or less......I would buy a tesla or an id4 for a commuter. That sucker would not even make it to a car show and back without a few hours on a charger.....I have no time for that. I know your an electric car guy and Please tell me why so many people lie about this stuff.....I have been in caravans with electric conversions and OMG it is so irritating.
@@Mikefngarage efficiency has a lot to do with the conversion set up. Hyper9's through original gearboxes to the diff is the easiest but least efficient. The weight isn't the biggest issue. Weight also works in favour of regen to. The loss of range from towing turns out to be heavily related to aerodynamic drag, not tow weight. Tesla swaps achieve much better efficiency results if they suit the car but it's not always practical. The video I link below is not a F100 but SWB Defender open top that has 100kwh (full Tesla pack) and a longitudinal mounted Tesla motor running prop shafts to the front diff and rear diff. It gets 160 - 200 miles max and is as boxy as any F100 style. Towing he was getting around 120 miles (one of his other videos). Conversions are not the best long range touring choices. But I don't see topping off on the way to a destination and or back as too much of a hassle. Cost of these conversions is a different matter and you need to be pretty passionate about it to take the hit. I also think people always talk about the upside of anything they are keen on. LS swap people will talk up the HP to the wheels and talk down the cost and pain to do it all. Any resto or car builders make it all look easier and less hassle than things may really be. Our classics actually drive pretty well and are fairly reliable but they aren't really. We just don't say it.
You took an F-100, 150, 250.......... And you turned it into a golf cart. An $80,000.00 golf cart. Why am I not surprised? "You still have the charm of driving an old vehicle" Uh-huh... Not without internal combustion, you don't. Unless that old vehicle is a golf cart.
Cool truck. My first vehicle was a '68 F100, blue and white pickup. I loved that thing. I did a lot of things in that truck that were first and iconic in my life, if you know what I mean ;) Cheers.
I'm sorry I didn't know of this video. I'm the one who said help me help and ask how to go about it and how much it would cost. Now I know unfortunately I can't afford it 😫 I'm retired and live on a fixed-income. Damn I got excited for nothing. But it's very nice to know it can be done. Ty u very much.... Bigg Bern....
As someone who owns both classic cars and EVs, I thought I was going to hate this when I clicked, but it's pretty well done. Most of these conversions are so compromised (1 small motor, tiny battery, etc) that they're useless. Also, a lot of the pickups can no longer be used for pickup things because the bed is full of batteries. I'm liking that this thng apparently has some power, range, and usefulness.
I'm sitting at work today in Boulder Colorado. Turn around in this truck is big trailer right behind me. Got to see it first hand awesome build. Going to meet the guys from the channel and that on the truck. Turned an ordinary day at a construction site into a pretty cool one.
@@matthewprather7386 they can't be reconfigured easily lmao. Anyone who says that hasn't worked on this kind of nonsense. It's way more complicated than it ever should be.
@@bldontmatter5319 aren't some regen settings user configurable on the fly? I think the Kia and Chexvy bolt both have paddles that you just flick to change the amount of regen.
Been looking at lots of videos on these types of conversions. Love seeing new life being given to older vehicles. I have had a soft spot since I was a kid for the old 80s broncos and I hope to one day to get one of those chassis and restore it with a ev conversion.
@@TFLclassics You wouldn't understand. That truck is even more ridiculous. You proved it yourself. I'm willing to admit it's a age thing. I'm fine with that.
This is almost exactly what I would do if I had the cash. Delete the viewing window inside though I don't need that, and I would think about adding power steering.
You know I don’t really like the whole convert gas to electric I would say I like the in-line six better but I will say this is one of the cooler electric conversions I’ve seen
Diesels conversion if your looking to save a buck or 2 on fuel. Cheaper and better for range and less money IMO....BUT......YOu cant go places and talk about how green you are.......ha ha.
ANYONE WANT THE REAL TRUTH.........Probably not but here it is....DIESEL is the ONLY TRUCK CONVERSION I WOULD DO.....On a car or a new sleek design electric is ok. On truck.....Load it up with something heavy and the RANGE is USELESS.....$$$$$ spent for a conversation piece. ..Especially when you drive it uphill. Now it has a 6kwh charger. so it takes about 8 to 10 hours to charge it. SO you cant charge it at a supercharger which is about 45 to 70 kwh and charges it in about an hour....My best guess on range is less than 100 miles. ( and believe me I am right) Range is going to change uphill, downhill and when loaded......that will go down significantly. I rode in a caravan with a converted VW bus and the range with similar batteries was about 120 miles to 130 miles at 60 mph. When you drive it faster....MUCH LESS......When you drive it 45 it was much better BUT....Who can drive without getting rear ended on the freeway at 45.....Really???.....This technology is great for NEW CARS....that are sleek and you drive in the city......But for anything else your KIDDING YOURSELF!!!!!.....Not for everyone and definitely not for me. Been there done that.
I'd think it'd be pretty easy to translate the output of the coolant temp and charge remaining and send the appropriate voltage to the relevant gauges on the dash. That'd be cool
I have a 1961 Chevrolet Apache. I want to do a similar conversion except I am KEEPING mine! Mine has been in my family since I was 1 year old. I do like what you have done. I think it compliments the truck.
Way cool. Wonder when the electric bits prices will come down to where it’s practical for most modders. I suspect they will as demand and supply increase.
why?? why would u make something worse? a better plan would have been to install a 5.0 coyote engine, and have a custom dash built to accommodate the modern instrument cluster
I love the concept! A truck that basically still has its character but is quicker and more efficient. Though I would have preferred a Godzilla/10 speed swap
We were all like wtf, releasing a UA-cam Short about this truck, but nothing about the conversion. But as usual, TFL is coming clutch with a whole video series on how it was done! Looking forward to more!
So cool. I love the idea of being able to bring new life to classic cars like this. I would have preferred to see that charge port better hidden. That new black plastic does not look right to me. Maybe they could have done like a flip down license plate and left the non-functional fuel fill cap. At that price point it would have also been nice to see that computer/gear selector set up with more of a new old stock feel. But overall I love it.
It’s gonna be interesting if/when conversion installation costs could get down to $20,000-$30,000. Would love to see lots of older vehicles on the road again.
So you can't use them when bad waether kills the power for a week?
@@Neightlive that includes gas stations when the power goes.
@@Neightlive This type of conversion should warm any prepper's heart. If you have some solar panels you have an infinite range around your compound and never have to visit a gas station in civilization again.
That is still insanely cost prohibitive. I hope it gets big enough for it to be equivalent to cheaper ls conversions
@@michaelyoung3337 Yeah I don't think so. One EMP, and this garbage is fried.
I am an old hot rodder and i love it. Not the cost but the idea appeals to my hotrod heart.
Oh yeah, It would make a great hot rod drag truck.
Yea it sounds good......But the Numbers are terrible. Honestly......The cost for the range of something that heavy is totally useless. Only worth an attaboy for being green....if that matters to you....But even at that it is not really. I am pretty experienced with this and that sucker probably has a range of 100 miles. Load it full of lumber and cut that in half....then wait about 10 hours to recharge. With that kind of weight the battery life will be terrible too....Get out the steam shovel and harvest some more lithium.....Hey electric cars are GREAT for commuting but converting classics and long range they are good for sticking out your chest and Talking to your hommies about how green you are and that is about it.
Agreed. Never did like the sound of V8’s anyways.
didn't even smoke the tires what a disappointment
Look up the fwd honda powered mustang! You'll love it. I think its a 1965 mustang but im not sure
$$80,000 !??? For the conversion. That’s a big no for me 😂😂
Yeah me too lol! I make 20,000 to 35,000 a year depending on the weather in the winter and wet season. I will never be able to afford it. Guess I am getting a 🐎 😆
Nope not 80k I do the math that’s not true ! Don’t be fool he really wants to sell the truck to someone who think it cost 80k !! Don’t listen do the ev lies trust me !!! It’s all for you tube views and sells it don’t cost that much !!
@@waltercox2207 eventually, if you have solar, an EV car would pay for itself in gas saving alone in 5-10 years
@@jesualdocortez6426 it will i have a g550 eats 110 in gas a week so i think i want to convert the mercedes gl550 to all ev. its all wheel drive i would love to try it if inhad the parts for sure.
Hell no
This truck conversion is SO COOL! I would rather have this than a Cybertruck.
Absofreakinglutely
I've looked at many electric options, and I don't like the modern vehicles today, I will be doing this to an older vehicle in the future
Same
You still think the CyberTruck is happening? Its 2 years late already, they've lost any first mover advantage in the truck market. 😅
Hell yeah
“You still have the charm of driving an older truck”......uh no you don’t.
TFL has done what many enthusiasts wish they could do. Keep a nice piece of steel on the road with a modern driveline. I’m not an electric fanboy living/working in pretty rural areas but I would definitely drive something like this 👍
Oh yeah. I would love to have this
It was awesome to meet Andrey and see this truck in person today. Thank you for being so kind and welcoming. It was a pleasure. This was a very cool rig to see and get inside of today at Cars and Coffee. - Luke
The one in Lafayette?
@@yayinternets I met him at the one off I-25 and 136th at the outlets
@@strongplanted Oh cool, that’s right down the street from me. I go to the Lafayette one a few times a year but haven’t seen them there before.
I am in pain watching this
This is my favourite TFL project so far! It will be interesting to watch the build series.
I drive a Hemi Ram and a Bolt EV so this is a very cool amalgamation or the two types. I love that you are giving that cool old truck new life. It’s like putting an SSD in an older computer to squeeze out more performance from older hardware. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.
Yup
I feel ya. I drive a classic military K5 Blazer (M1009) and a Bolt EV lol. The Blazer is for "real work" and the Bolt EV is for daily.
After driving in EV's... I really wouldn't want to commute with the 6.2L Detroit Diesel lol. It's great for "doin stuff", but the classics just aren't practical for daily use.
Congrats! You now just have to drive it another 200k to offset the environmental damage of manufacturing those lithium batteries... :I
And who knows how many more miles to offset the coal that's burned to generate the electricity for that virtue signal mobile. I bet the clapped out inline 6 was more efficient than this rolling pile
Could desperately use some safety protection over those exposed orange HV terminals. Otherwise, fantastic.
What
@@bruced9668 hv=high voltage
Did I see the original single-cylinder brake master? 😬 And front drums with orig steering too I bet. With the acceleration that truck has now (+ more weight) I would think improved handling/stopping might be in order?
Quit being a poon
this set up has been around for years
All really well done except the charge port, looks like the were like “uhhh okay all done except the charge port, ehhhh just slap it on there!” Would have been nice if they put in CCS that blends in better
Its where the fuel tank filler use to be. Id say they kept it that way for that reason Owning one of this model F250s I think it is cool they used the same spot.
@@tim8deb I know but it just looks kinda haphazardly bolted into the hole, with that price I’d be hoping for like a custom insert
@@09impala Yeah, that jumped out to me, too.
For $80k, they should have made it LOOK like the original fuel cap on the outside.
That black plastic kills the look. Maybe they could have done like a hidden panel behind the license plate or something. That was a common location for a fuel door in that era.
@@DanielBoger Yep, I was thinking maybe even just take a chrome fuel door off another truck and putting the J1772 plug under it. A great thing about electricity over gas is you don’t have to worry about gravity so you can put the connector wherever you want.
AWESOME conversion! I swapped a Suzuki Sidekick with 1X of those Hyper9 motors for a tiny fraction of the price. I’ve got a few videos on my channel if you’re interested. The range isn’t super, but the drivability is MUCH improved.
I think converting smaller, lighter vehicles that don't need half to three quarter ton battery packs will be the key for many. People concerned about the cost can sacrifice performance and save a fortune (and still be usable). Moving a big heavy truck with sportscar performance is going to cost a lot no matter how you do it.
I think the conversion was done tastefully and respectful, of such a beautiful truck. I'm excited to see it worked.
I have mixed feelings about this.
I'm sad to see a classic with such a [historically] good motor get retired, but I also love that you can keep the classic body intact and still use it basically the way it was.
This conversion would be PERFECT for me as both a daily driver and as a general house truck, as long as it gets at least 120 miles per charge and could charge to full overnight (~8 hours). I'm sure that's true of most people.
I would love to see more EV conversions, and I wish the government incentive money would go towards this instead of brand new vehicles. This is truly better for the environment! Taking a near-death vehicle and bringing it back to life.
120 miles is a hope and a prayer on level ground at 45 mph....Factor in some hills and putting anything in the bed drive a bit faster and that will significantly change. Great for around town. take it on a road trip Useless......want a great commuter buy a tesla or ID4. then your doing something.
@@Mikefngarage using that argument, what's the point of the commuter car too?
By the time you account for the energy it takes to build, go find a V8 pickup.
I've been seeing if an electric would work as my next commuter, and truly, it's more economical to buy a V6 or V8 pickup in terms of cost, dependability, and longevity.
I could buy 2 pickup trucks for the price of most electric cars, and the truck lasts 3 times longer (with proper maintenance).
I own a 4 cylinders Ford Focus right now, and although it's the most dependable car I've driven, I'm understanding why people go for the large pickups - part of it is that they can last 20 years or more.
I hear ya!! I have a '37 Plymouth pick-up truck and I'm really wanting to convert it to EV.....but I get that a lot: you're destroying automotive history, you're ruining the value, you're taking away the nostalgia. It weighs heavy on my heart but that said, I have to add that the OEM system sucks! No power steering, very lousy brakes (we take hydraulic disc for granted!!!!), doesn't always like to start, can't do more than 60mph, have to double-clutch and it still grinds going into 1st, drips oil incessantly, constant issues with fuel pump and carburetor.....the truck is so finnicky that NOBODY wants to drive it except me! And every time I drive it I have to HOPE it won't have an issue. So yeah, going to EV would be amazing and it's just making some old new again. I wanna do it but now trying to find a shop is a nightmare
@@stevereisman6872 diesel conversion is good too.....The thing to know is your Range is going to totally suck with electric. If your max driving it is around 100 miles of less it might be Ok. nights and hills will take away from that. then charging it will take 8 hours from there. So it does take some planning. Put a cummins in there with a later model trans and you get pretty good MPG and reliable.
@@stevereisman6872 dude that sounds like a freakin’ awesome truck!
But yeah, I tend to forget about all the maintenance needed just to keep a classic like that going. That is where electric will be better. However, I work in IT for a living and electric cars worry me for the computer issues that could potentially happen (and those associated costs).
Good job making an oversized, overweight golfcart. Just because something can be converted to electric doesn't mean it should be. At least you did this to a Ford.
UA-cam obviously pays waaaayyyyyy more than it should.
I don't subscribe to the EV religion like many people BUT I think this is a great application for an after market system. That thing would be great to tool around town, go to Home Depot etc. I wouldn't want to take it on a long trip. Imagine taking it to a classic car show at your local 50s diner!!
I know a guy with a single Hyper 9 converted 1965 Ford Cortina Mk 1 that he takes for shows. Gets everyone's attention for sure but when they see it for real they are mostly very keen to know all about it.
Now imagine how much cooler you'd be with a v8 with a hog ass cam
Calling it a religion is a bit unfair. Just as there an enthusiastic fans of “Hemi”, “V8 (or more)”. “XxxxxHP”, “rolling coal”. There are fans of ev for many reasons. With todays tech, it is fine for many people, with the near term expected tech, most people. If anything, it those holding onto the old, and spewing outdated information is the religious zealots.
Agreed. I like the idea of EVs but I realize it's limitations unlike some of the fan boys. This is a perfect application
@@SimJDKS your opinion...
$80K just for the conversion! Yikes. Unobtainium.
I agree the cost is absurd, but that's not what unobtainium means.
@@Ijusthopeitsquick That's what it means for me lol
Yea whats the point of that.....to talk you your buddies about how Great you are for being GREEN.....I will stay out of that conversation.
Yeah me personally I would have just rebuilt that old inline 6 those are history
@@Mikefngarage Conversions like this have nothing to do with an attempt at being green. It's more about tinkering/hotrodding type fun. Mashing up new and old tech. Trying new things. Doing it just because it's new and different and a challenge to put it together in a fun, unexpected and new way.
A perfect example of more money then you know what to do with
Ever rebuild a classic vehicle. To make this a showroom example just for the body would be somewhere over $30,000 or even $40,000 if you don’t do the work yourself. The painting alone will be over $10,000, even $15,000 for show quality. Then the interior will be a couple of thousand, and a proper replacement drive train would be $5,000 to $12,000 depending on what you replace the dump truck motor with.
I’ve done classic original numbers matching 6 cylinder trucks that were nice trucks. They stayed original because they were nice examples. This is not exactly a nice example or original prior to the EV conversion.
It’s immensely better now and, yes it was expensive, but full on restorods are!
They should of just left it alone it doesn’t need to be a trailer queen just as is is the true American sprite
@@danthompson1467 - they are in the job of generating revenue by videos watched, advertising time etc. this does none of that sitting doing nothing. They did what will generate views and discussions.
@@shitloveaduck I dont know what you're talking about. Paint and primer for my 1966 f250 (arcadian blue, Wimbledon white) cost me $700. 15 grand for a paint job? Yeah. Some sleaze bags will ask that much. I had one shop quote me 25k for a paintjob.
As with everything in life, your paying the administrative and labor costs of getting something done, not the materials.
@@npc_retired - I was including the bodywork in there as well. The hours add up fast then.
I learnt to drive on my Dad’s ’66 3/4 ton Chevy pickup. I still shake my head at how that beast would now be considered a classic. But even I sometimes look at the occasional one on the road with nostalgia.
A 1997 Geo Metro is considered a classic also. Lol
I mean, yeah it's cool but *why*
Why customize anything?
Hopefully in the future this $80,000 build becomes $30,000.
love this. I have 62 that needs rebuilding and this has really peaked my interest.
You legit got rid of a very reliable engine for unreliable battery tech....
9:40 is when he finally starts driving it.
How could it be sacrilege?
It's no where near the same as putting a Cummins diesel in a Prius for the reactions
A 1.9tdi in a Prius would have been ok tbh! ✅ 😂 😆 😝
@@carholic-sz3qv I'm putting a Prius 1.8 in a Corvair lol
We use those old 300’s in the oil field here in East Texas. They run 24 hours a day seven days a week at about 1800 RPMs under a load and when the weights come around and the rods go down it governs out at 2200 RPMs.
I think if we did the math if you could average 45 miles an hour every day for an entire year 24 hours a day I think that averaged out to 390,000 miles a year and we have some that last about three years before they start smoking.
Cost you about $180 in parts to rebuild it in the field, new main bearings rings pistons and a new head gasket and you’re back in business again. And with them running on casing head gas which is almost the same as natural gas but slightly wetter The heads and valves almost look like the day you put them in there.
Much different from actually driving them. You are talking about a constant variable torque. It has a very set pattern with no spikes, long idle times (the worst for the 6s), over revving etc. they are long lasting motors and the fuel you use is a by product. This truck was going to be lucky to get maybe 11 mpg with that old 6 cylinder. Not a great restoration, on a truck that was already far from original.
I fully understand the longevity though. We ran pump motors for irrigation and generally International 345s and 549s they ran for days flat out!! At night you could see the exhaust stacks glowing red,,,,,,. Ran them all summer sometimes only shutting them down for oil changes, oil cooler rebuilds and, if they survived, a couple of rebuilds. Very similar, but like driving 120 mph as hard as you can, uphill with a headwind!!! Hahaha. We never calculated the miles, but I don’t doubt similar. Yet have the same motors in an old international pickup and they didn’t last well at all. Maybe 100,000 miles before needing a rebuild.
@@shitloveaduck we have two old wells that have 1974 model international harvester 304 V8’s on them. The front cylinder on one side, and the back cylinder on the other side have compressor pistons in them. Those two cylinders are used for compressed air as a makeshift gas lift for adjacent whales to help run a plunger.
I know one of the 304’s has been rebuilt 14 times since 1978 when they were placed on the pumping unit.
One of the old wells has a old Buick “ nailhead” 322 on it. The old pumper that died out there probably 30 years ago told me that it came out of a 1954 Buick roadmaster. He said that car had 100,000 miles on it and was wrecked they pull the motor out of it and stuck it on that pumping unit and it ran for six more years before it needed rebuilt. 😎
@@golfbravowhiskey8669 - they must just be running right in that certain sweet spot huh? Pretty cool story!!
I like the idea of this kind of conversion, because you can have the electric driveline without being forced to choose the least ugly vehicle to you. This old Ford looks better than anything Ford, Chevy or Dodge is currently selling us for damn near $80k already.
Cool. Good idea for classic vehicles in my opinion. The ultimate restomod!
Super cool. However, it is a total waste of money to pay $80k for something that gives you 100 miles of range.
I don't think that was the point. It's one of a kind, which now makes it priceless.
They did this to create content I'm sure.
Well. They don’t yet know the actual range. He said it was a guess and that they need to do testing to work out what it’s actual range is
@@paulmadkow9143 they are auctioning it off and donating to money they said.
And the 300 engine was still running 57 yrs later despite needing a rebuild it was running. What will the batteries condition be in 50yrs or even 25yrs ?
Battery tech has come a long way in the last 20 years and will continue to improve. They'll get lighter, longer lasting and have more power density. But you can continue to grow into the grumpy old guy. Back in my day our cars had 100s of parts that would constantly wear out and need replaced to keep the car running.
@@zinc466 Batteries have made minor improvements. Most of what people see is not actually technological advancement, but rather logistical advances. It's easy to fall into the trap of imagining things improving at a steady pace the way they seem to be at any given moment. They just as easily may not. What they are today is crazy expensive, short lived, short capacity, heavy, and last but not least incredibly damaging to the environment. Electric drive is cool, but battery powered is a novelty.
@@zinc466 If someone wants to spend 80k on a electric conversion that isn’t efficient range wise from the get go it’s their money what do I care. Got nothing against Ev’s but 80k ? And you act like just because the engine was removed nothing will ever break or need maintenance. 20 yrs down the road when you want to sell it you can put in the description “ just needs a battery to run “. Lol
I owned a 65 f100 in the early 90’s and was the reason I watched the video and gave it a thumbs up. So who’s the grumpy old Jackass ? Not me I just stated facts and you seem to be the defensive one. Yes batteries tech has come a long way but then again in 20yrs a total electric car could be obsolete….. Hydrogen or something else for example.
Ruined that classic truck.
I’m 76 and think your spot on.
Only thing is that the E100 is a van. The Ford E series was the Econoline van, they are still in production as a cab/chassis for R.V. Ambulance, and box truck applications.
As an open minded person, ( just checked the truck lovers in his shorts, and all I can say is "Be careful” ) This is a great truck 👏👏👏
Avg Hot-Rodder: There isn't anything worse than swapping an LS into a Ford.
TFL: HOLD MY BEER -
Sacrilege. That is all....
Yup, that’s why yuppies shouldn’t have pickup trucks.
At every public charging station there will be the Karen:” You can’t park there!”
This is just wrong in so many ways! Not to mention all day to fully charge.
That is one of the best conversions I have seen, very professional looking.
Perfect daily driver
It’s your guys’ truck. You can do whatever you want to it 👍 I think it’s cool
Awesome. Thanks for sharing. I have a 1957 Chevy pickup truck I'd love to convert to electric.
This is the most Colorado thing I've ever seen in my life!
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Would it be worse to LS swap a Ford? Some would have a heart attack at that idea too. I think it's cool! It's all about taste. Some will definitely hate it, but I like the idea of keeping a classic going and seeing new(er) ideas come to the resto-mod scene.
Could have bought about 60 brand new 4.9l engines for that.
Why would anyone spend the time and money to repower this old truck and just throw another one of those back in…
Wont be anywhere near as reliable either.
Definitely would last longer than those batteries. Good luck getting a few hundred thousand miles.
@@natefxx because internal combustion engines are superior to electric
@@mikedurham3563 almost nobody is driving their restomod old pickup a few hundred thousand miles. You are describing a use case that doesn’t exist
$80K to convert an old rattlie truck, or you can buy a new higher trim F150 Lighting (or 2 base models) for the same price, wtf
Cool conversion but man I feel like you just got ripped off.
Didn’t cost them the $80K, just the truck itself was donated by TFL. The other 2 partners chipped in for the power conversion.
That’s what it would cost you! I have spent well over $25K Canadian on just a motor and transmission on a pro street 74 C10. It depends on your individual tastes. I had no chance of getting the full $25K back. Put a brand new interior for a couple of grand, sort some of the rattles out, maybe a satin clear coat and put this up at Barrett Jackson. The EV conversion is of high quality. They could very well make money. It’s the current trend.
I love the E100 badge.
You went balls out with this ford, PLEASE don't do that with the fj45. Fix the original engine!
The American F100,150, 250 etc in my mind are perfect EV conversion targets. They have the load capacity and the room for all the parts needed and since they are not long distance vehicles anymore in any reality, even with modern V8's, this is the perfect future for them. After my w124 Merc, Id love to do an F100/150 as they were also build by Ford Australia (Brisbane is home) up to the early 90's. I'm keen for a 1975. Can't wait for the build videos.
YEA.....Until you factor in the weight.....Drops the range. significantly....take it on the freeway at 60 or 70 and the range is useless. maybe 100 miles or less......I would buy a tesla or an id4 for a commuter. That sucker would not even make it to a car show and back without a few hours on a charger.....I have no time for that. I know your an electric car guy and Please tell me why so many people lie about this stuff.....I have been in caravans with electric conversions and OMG it is so irritating.
@@Mikefngarage efficiency has a lot to do with the conversion set up. Hyper9's through original gearboxes to the diff is the easiest but least efficient. The weight isn't the biggest issue. Weight also works in favour of regen to. The loss of range from towing turns out to be heavily related to aerodynamic drag, not tow weight. Tesla swaps achieve much better efficiency results if they suit the car but it's not always practical. The video I link below is not a F100 but SWB Defender open top that has 100kwh (full Tesla pack) and a longitudinal mounted Tesla motor running prop shafts to the front diff and rear diff. It gets 160 - 200 miles max and is as boxy as any F100 style. Towing he was getting around 120 miles (one of his other videos). Conversions are not the best long range touring choices. But I don't see topping off on the way to a destination and or back as too much of a hassle. Cost of these conversions is a different matter and you need to be pretty passionate about it to take the hit. I also think people always talk about the upside of anything they are keen on. LS swap people will talk up the HP to the wheels and talk down the cost and pain to do it all. Any resto or car builders make it all look easier and less hassle than things may really be. Our classics actually drive pretty well and are fairly reliable but they aren't really. We just don't say it.
You took an F-100, 150, 250..........
And you turned it into a golf cart. An $80,000.00 golf cart.
Why am I not surprised?
"You still have the charm of driving an old vehicle"
Uh-huh... Not without internal combustion, you don't.
Unless that old vehicle is a golf cart.
Totally agree. Such a waste.
E series on the badges indicates the Ford vans 🤷🏻♂️
Best looking Tesla EVER!
Best part, no power windows or doorlocks
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Cool truck. My first vehicle was a '68 F100, blue and white pickup. I loved that thing. I did a lot of things in that truck that were first and iconic in my life, if you know what I mean ;) Cheers.
I'm sorry I didn't know of this video. I'm the one who said help me help and ask how to go about it and how much it would cost. Now I know unfortunately I can't afford it 😫 I'm retired and live on a fixed-income. Damn I got excited for nothing. But it's very nice to know it can be done. Ty u very much.... Bigg Bern....
As someone who owns both classic cars and EVs, I thought I was going to hate this when I clicked, but it's pretty well done. Most of these conversions are so compromised (1 small motor, tiny battery, etc) that they're useless. Also, a lot of the pickups can no longer be used for pickup things because the bed is full of batteries. I'm liking that this thng apparently has some power, range, and usefulness.
So where does yoir electricity come from, Tommy?
Àwsome keeps that country living modern!
I'm sitting at work today in Boulder Colorado. Turn around in this truck is big trailer right behind me.
Got to see it first hand awesome build.
Going to meet the guys from the channel and that on the truck.
Turned an ordinary day at a construction site into a pretty cool one.
Awesome. Keep in mind the Regen braking might be a problem in winter. In 2 wheel drive without abs I bet those back tires are gonna lock up real fast.
Nice thing about electronics is they can be reconfigured - disabling regen should be no big deal..
@@matthewprather7386 they can't be reconfigured easily lmao. Anyone who says that hasn't worked on this kind of nonsense. It's way more complicated than it ever should be.
@@bldontmatter5319 aren't some regen settings user configurable on the fly? I think the Kia and Chexvy bolt both have paddles that you just flick to change the amount of regen.
@@bldontmatter5319 OMG TRUTH......Which is missing in the E conversion world.
Been looking at lots of videos on these types of conversions. Love seeing new life being given to older vehicles. I have had a soft spot since I was a kid for the old 80s broncos and I hope to one day to get one of those chassis and restore it with a ev conversion.
TFL didn't ruin it by any means, they simply modernized a Canada/US classic truck and made it adaptable to the modern age. That's super cool.
Wish my 79 F150 4x4 had that body style. Glad I have the 300 instead of that tho.
I think this is bad ass! I would love to do this to my 66 Galaxie.
A true cyber truck!
Henry Ford is crying right now. 😭
Why, his company builds the best selling EV truck in America?
@@TFLclassics You wouldn't understand. That truck is even more ridiculous. You proved it yourself. I'm willing to admit it's a age thing. I'm fine with that.
This is almost exactly what I would do if I had the cash. Delete the viewing window inside though I don't need that, and I would think about adding power steering.
Looks great love the dial to switch from Drive to Reverse very talented people who worked on the Conversion
This a pretty cool project - impressive conversion.
You know I don’t really like the whole convert gas to electric I would say I like the in-line six better but I will say this is one of the cooler electric conversions I’ve seen
Diesels conversion if your looking to save a buck or 2 on fuel. Cheaper and better for range and less money IMO....BUT......YOu cant go places and talk about how green you are.......ha ha.
@@Mikefngarage sure you can run on bio diesels or cooking oil just don't do electric
ANYONE WANT THE REAL TRUTH.........Probably not but here it is....DIESEL is the ONLY TRUCK CONVERSION I WOULD DO.....On a car or a new sleek design electric is ok. On truck.....Load it up with something heavy and the RANGE is USELESS.....$$$$$ spent for a conversation piece. ..Especially when you drive it uphill. Now it has a 6kwh charger. so it takes about 8 to 10 hours to charge it. SO you cant charge it at a supercharger which is about 45 to 70 kwh and charges it in about an hour....My best guess on range is less than 100 miles. ( and believe me I am right) Range is going to change uphill, downhill and when loaded......that will go down significantly. I rode in a caravan with a converted VW bus and the range with similar batteries was about 120 miles to 130 miles at 60 mph. When you drive it faster....MUCH LESS......When you drive it 45 it was much better BUT....Who can drive without getting rear ended on the freeway at 45.....Really???.....This technology is great for NEW CARS....that are sleek and you drive in the city......But for anything else your KIDDING YOURSELF!!!!!.....Not for everyone and definitely not for me. Been there done that.
Something like this with a column shifter and a set of round displays for the EV info in the round spots on the dash would be pretty neat imo.
Super cool! I'm really looking forward to seeing this truck off road.
I'd think it'd be pretty easy to translate the output of the coolant temp and charge remaining and send the appropriate voltage to the relevant gauges on the dash. That'd be cool
Add a audio system with a recording of a revving engine under the hood ,just to mess with your friends .🤣🤔👍
Can't wait to see this thing offroading now. Not sure if the drivetrain will handle it.
Why wouldn’t it hold up?
If it can tow something, it will be a miracle
I have a 1961 Chevrolet Apache. I want to do a similar conversion except I am KEEPING mine! Mine has been in my family since I was 1 year old. I do like what you have done. I think it compliments the truck.
Way cool. Wonder when the electric bits prices will come down to where it’s practical for most modders. I suspect they will as demand and supply increase.
We need electronic am manufacturing as a whole to returns the States
@@jimmyboe25 It will.
I need to put that set-up in my '63 Falcon convertible...
It’s what the spirit of hot rodding is doing some crazy stuff but 100 miles on one charge is the only bad thing
Awesome work. Well done TFL x LEgacy EV x 101 motors! Get ready to read even more about it in the EV Builder's Guide soon!
looking forward to seeing following on vidoes on this truck, thank you
It looks and sounds like it's going to fly apart when you accelerate.
You guys know that I'm a big fan of all that you do.....
But my TRX told me to tell you that you are now dead to us.
;)
Great use of a piece of Americana. Keeps that frame out of the junkyard
This is okay but still a disgrace. Terrible to think this might happen but at the same time exciting to see there’s a way to keep old cars on the road
So cool. Not normally an EV fan but I really like this.
why?? why would u make something worse? a better plan would have been to install a 5.0 coyote engine, and have a custom dash built to accommodate the modern instrument cluster
I'm a huge fan of the 300 i6 and that was my favorite part of this truck. Would have been cool to see a turbo 300 build or just a diesel swap.
Then maybe you should have bought it....
I love the concept! A truck that basically still has its character but is quicker and more efficient. Though I would have preferred a Godzilla/10 speed swap
In the Netherlands, they converted an old volkswagen beetle from gasoline to a hydrogen engine. which was difficult because of the small engine room.
We were all like wtf, releasing a UA-cam Short about this truck, but nothing about the conversion. But as usual, TFL is coming clutch with a whole video series on how it was done! Looking forward to more!
What does coming clutch mean
@@turnip5359 Very happy clutch?
It’s fab. Love it. The steering looks really vague, though.
So cool. I love the idea of being able to bring new life to classic cars like this. I would have preferred to see that charge port better hidden. That new black plastic does not look right to me. Maybe they could have done like a flip down license plate and left the non-functional fuel fill cap. At that price point it would have also been nice to see that computer/gear selector set up with more of a new old stock feel. But overall I love it.
Its a giant golf cart! Its a cool truck that would have been awesome with a Cummins conversion. Still love TFL and all their content!