The Warrior Tea Transporter is often overlooked by military analysts yet it plays an important role in the morale of the Englishman at Arms. It can brew the tea on the move with its carbon water filter using the same tech as Bosch instant household hot water heaters with a manual option to rout the water through stainless tubing coiled around the upper exhaust pipe. The Tea Kettle is 416 weapons grade stainless with the same servos that balance the 40 mm cannon except it keeps the tealeaves from being sloshed and frothing the tea over rough terrain. Another benefit of the KSU (Kettle Stabilizer Unit) is keeping the tea leaves from crumbling and making the tea too bitter in conjunction with the triple filtration system. The triple filtration is through a folded T shirt of pure cotton, a cylinder of tube socks and the dust prefilter from the soldier gas mask canister. This way it can be maintained when the vehicle is at extended range from the supply chain. The Cream, Sugar and crumpet cases are still top secret but there's nothing like them in the world regarding quality, survivability, and upgradeability.
Amazing isn't it, at the start of WW2 the main anti tank gun on tanks was 37mm and they loaded it one shell at a time. Now APC's have 40mm guns that fire on automatic...
Yes, and many of the tanks and other armoured vehicles during the Second World War would have been no match for modern-day infantry fighting vehicles. IFV's mounting either a 30 or 40mm gun firing programmable proximity-burst rounds would have been absolute murder even on dug-in infantry. The ground portion of the Second World War would have ended fairly quickly if somehow modern-day IFV's could have been deployed through some weird kind of time travel or time warp.
@@revolverswitch Don't laugh. I read of one idea to repurpose C-130s or strategic bombers as missile buses with F-22s and F-35s up front as passive target detectors and terminal guidance units. All the tech in the guys up front, all the firepower (and resulting high signature) in the back spewing out missiles.
Great upgrade. I'd love to see a lateral ATGM mount as well (Spike?) to give it the capability to engage heavy armor at longer ranges as well, to relief the shrunken Challeneger force a bit and stronger frontal/lateral armor/ERA/cage to counter HEAT shells and ATGMs/RPGs. It's nice to have a main weapon that can reach out and has a evil punch, but so do a lot of potentially adverserial vehicles, zo protection needs to evolve as well imho. And I'd love to see an armor protection system (Trophy or equivalent), just giving the vehicle and its crew/infantry squad that extra bit of protection. But I would totally get it, if the MoD decides not to do that and wait for a version of the AJAX arnored scout vehicle suitable for IFV, so that the turret might be transferred to that. One point of concern; it is my understanding that the CT40 gun mainly is designed to combat lightly armored vehicles, demounted infantry and helicopters, but is less capable to do serious damage to more heavily armored IFVs at mid range, due to the loss of kinetic energy the telescopic rounds produce. I don't know wether that is true... The German Puma with its 30mm on the other hand is said to have a devastatingly hard hitting AP round, just like the CV90/35 and CV90/40, which are said to also have a bit mnore effective range against armored vehicles (up to 3.000m against 2.000m for the CT40). Can't seem to be able to find enough data on the CT40 though...
Since they are upgrading the turret and during GW2 they mounted MILAN on the turrets of a few Warriors I would have expected it to be a capability to be added later just to shift costs a bit, it would be a nice addition though
@@chaz8758 Agree, you never know when ypu run into an angry MBT. If that occurs it's always nice to know one has something at hand to match that big boom stick of his (grin). Preferably something with a bit more range than the Javelin, since that requires operating well within range of its gun (ad thermal imaging sights), something I never felt comfortably with operating the M-47 Dragon in my time with the armor infantry (with only 1.100m of range, well within the range of a coaxial MG).
Its such a weird thing, on camp the name Matsimus is like armed forces legend. Everyone knows of him, even the OC. Pity about the REME part, could be worse....could be RMP ;)
They should should just give it a CITV system like the Bradley and modern tanks have. Instead of mounting cameras all over just give the commander a camera that swivels and stick a monitor hooked up to it in the troop compartment. I think that's much better than having stationary cameras all over.
@@huntforandrew But if CITV gets shot... Multiple cameras(preferrably with overlapping views) allow on-board computer to piece together images from all cameras(cars already can do this today) for a panoramic view of the battlefield(without having a panning camera that can be hit and disabled easily). Like this: ua-cam.com/video/PE5MySNqcMU/v-deo.html But better.
Simply to save space. Stabilisers take up room, and they wanted to keep the turret as small as possible. The thing was never intended to fight on the move.
Let's hope they correctly implement the chain gun correctly this time. If I remember correctly back in the 90's it was mounted upside down or something.
Was a gunner in the 90's,that rarden was a complete pain in the arse to strip and clean. Hughes chain gun was shit as well....here's a good idea let's use a gravity fed weapon system but turn it upside down so it stretches the 762 link and jams constantly.
I like these new cartridge schemes. You can put a larger caliber explosive round, or use a sabot instead of the classic necked down caliber cartridge, and you can do it in the same [ammo] space.
Warrior upgrades, Chally 2 upgrades, procurement of Boxer and Ajax vehicles is fantastic and sounds really great for the modern British Army going into the future.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
When I went to Army careers office as a boy in 1989, before i joined up at 16 in 1990, the literature and brochures I got had the new Warrior vehicles in fancy exercise pictures and it looked modern and fantastic. It never crossed my mind that 30 years later, we're still talking about the Warrior in the British Army and just waiting for a life extension programme that will keep it going for probably about another 20 years. We certainly know how to get our money's worth from military hardware..... think about the Lee Enfield. 303, the brilliant SLR, the Scimitar, the FV 432 and the Warrior. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
I had fun in Light Aid Detachments with their predecessors, the FV434's and FV432's of the 22 Cheshire Rgt in Minden, followed by the CVR(T) Scorpion, Scimitar, Samson, Spartan etc. with the 13/18 Hussars in Wimbish UK before getting sent on to 12 Armoured Workshop in Osnabruck. Detachment trips in between to Northern Ireland, Wales gunnery ranges, 2 Cyprus UN tours and Sunny Belize. Fun times in the REME, 1976-1984. Miscellaneous old junk we worked on; Fox's, Ferrets, Bedford 3 tonners, Stalwarts, Humber pigs, Saracens and every old, scabby Land Rover variant under the sun 😁 Man, had to really rack my brains trying to remember, seems so long ago now.
I've been watching bits and bobs of yours for a while, figured I ought to finally subscribe. I find military vehicles fascinating from the engineering perspective (I also believe that there are too many trade offs made between new and shiny vs Ronseal and built to last but hey, I'm an outsider) and remember seeing many proposed upgrades, new systems etc in a publication called Military Technology way back when. You seem to be my best source for my engineering fix!
As a former RARDEN gunner on CVRT this really is a game changer. RARDEN really is a pig to fire on the move and should not be attempted on the move - fire would only be attempted in staggered 'bounds'. Matt this really is screaming out for an piece on AJAX ........................
Up to the point and factual as always. Thanx so much. The monitor scenes also corresponding with what is said and explained that even a not-pro millitary person will follow easily. It will be smart if a comparison video is produced of same type vehicles of different nations discussing everyone in fine detail putting also some historical facts for getting a better understanding.
Since the Ajax programme appears to be on the verge of being discontinued, why don't the British Army take a bunch of upgraded Warriors and turn them into recce variants? The rear troop compartment could be converted into a workstation area for an observer/radio operator/systems operator. Meanwhile, the commander commands the vehicle and the gunner engages targets when necessary and also acts as a second observer.
Remember when the Bradley was meant to be an APC, but became a troop transport that can't carry troops, a scout vehicle that is too tall and slow to scout, and a light tank that has enough firepower to level a city block but with barely enough armor to resist a small cannon
@@CharliMorganMusic it's almost like the military realised the M113 would work fine as an APC, and what they really needed was an IFV for frontline support roles...
Will we ever get rid of this cold war beast? I think the M.O.D are hanging onto the Warrior like some tattered old, mangy but much loved family dog. A fully stabilised 40mm gun upgrade, auto loader, updated fire control system, better all round visibility, alongside upgraded armour will keep the Warrior around for years to come. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
It's been hard to keep track of this one. 245 will receive the upgraded turret and electronics, another 100 the upgraded electronics and then the rest will have the turret removed and turned into battlefield taxis. So how many will that be in total?
@@sunnycat69 I know I've just been trying to work out would it have just been cheaper to scrap them and order another 240 ajax for £1bn. LM was pissed away a lot of money redesigning turrets because they thought they could install the cta cannon on the original. Never should have been selected over BAE, it was just to prove a point over the nimrod and astute screw ups.
It’s a beast a god damn beauty, I loved it second stage fan sucking in everything nearby. Needs a new turret and a new engine CV 8 can’t ho on for much longer.
Quick firing 4cm autocanon? We finally have a proper gun for the Churchill tank. When can we expect this cannon to be mounted in Mosquitos for tank busting?
ah, the Churchill, ugly as sin, Armed like a medium tank, slower than a heavy tank, as heavily armoured as a tiger and could cross terrain other tanks couldn't dream of, it worked surprisingly well all things considered.
I say re-engine the M4 Sherman (we've still got lots in Cosmoline), extend the crew compartment rearward, add three more seats . . . thermal imagers . . . think of how inexpensive spare parts would be! You might even downgun it to a reliable autocannon (I love the 40mm/L60 of course) . . . or regun it with the new Bofors 57mm . . . lots of room, lots of armor, a good turn of speed . . . Heck! Do the same thing with Churchill Mk IX! A 750hp Gas Turbine (about the same size as the twin lorry motors of the original), fit a few extra seats in, a la AVRE, and arm the turret with a PAIR of 40mm Bofors guns . . . thermal imagers . . . a satellite uplink . . . I mean, imagine the enemy's reaction to a 40mph, 150mm armored, Churchill!
Thanks for a considered response. I appreciate your point, but beg to differ. I cite the overreaching price of new tech. Old refits are far cheaper, in many notable cases. Not all, of course. But, when you have tens of thousands of an old tech item still in inventory . . . it brings down the price a lot.
Hello Matsimus - I think the UK could have upgraded the Warrior ages ago and with considerably less cost and fuss. A new or modified turret with an existing, fully-stabilized 30mm dual-feed cannon, mated to new thermal sights and a fire control system using mainly off-the shelf components from UK suppliers, could have put plenty of people to work and given the Army an low-risk 80-90% solution a decade or more ago. (You could have been firing air-burst munitions at the dushmen behind cover.) Agreed that the CTIA 40 mike-mike is cool, but it comes at great cost and at the expense of timeliness. Why pursue a gold-/platinum-plated solution when there are so many other capability enhancement programs that need resources? A lost opportunity to marry economy with practicality, IMO.
@@killagamez4619 They're good, but both support vehicles. Currently the Vickers is Britains best top tier vehicle as it fits the meta of the game. Mobility.
The RARDEN's 30mm round travels at 1000m/s The new 40x255mm for the CTAS40 goes 1600m/s If you include the heavier projectile that is a _considerable_ increase in how hard you're hitting I wonder what the penetration is.
probably in excess of 100mm RHS equivalent up close, will mostly depend on the warhead at any feasible range. Would not be surprised if ATGMs form the anti-armour punch and the 40mm becomes anti-structure/sensor based fragmentation for infantry.
40mm is an excellent bore size. enough of a payload to really definitely ruin someone's day on the other side. can essentially be used as a sniping platform
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but the new turret on the Warrior is the "same" as the Ajax. Commonality to keep costs down. There is also upgrades to the suspension to allow weight growth. I don't know if the engine has changed or upgraded though.
Nice to see the Warrior getting a new weapon / interface system. A penny for your thoughts on the CAMO system for the French (and Belgian) army featuring the new Jaguar / Griffon and refurbished Leclerc MBT [France only - maybe even with a 140mm cannon] ;)
As a Swede , im positivly suprised that the British upgrade to 40mm , and glad that they join the 40 mill family. I would have guess british would follow the yanks and go 50 mill.
to me this move to ever larger and heavier cannons seems counter productive. There's the tempting advantages of greater punch and range. But at the cost of greater weight and fewer shells between having to back out of a battle and return to reload. Also the added burden on the logistical supply lines with too many types of ammo. Also, some of the wheeled vehicles, Boxer, may struggle to be armed with such heavy cannons. I, as a yank, hope we can restrain from going over to the 50 mm. If we adopt the same 40 mm, it would help from the logistical stand point and hopefully keep the weight of the cannon and its shells from creating more problems than it solves. I'm also reminded of world war 2, with regards to the German Puma. The German officers knew it wasn't a tank, and it only weighted in at 11 tons, yet it couldn't cope with Shermans' that weighted 3 times as much. Hopefully the officers' who send these light weight vehicles into battle don't send them into situations that are otherwise suicidal. In the heat of battle, officers will often give in to temptation and employ these vehicles recklessly. A lot of those Puma crews, out of desperation of officers, where sent into combat situations the vehicle was never designed for and died like flys.
@@davidbridges3292 I can see your point , however its not the main gun thats supposed to engage enemy MBT or heavy stuff , its the dismounted infantry , and in emergency they can use the onboard missile system(at least in Sweden). And if they encounter something less then a MBT they can be offensive and take the initiative (in theory). But all the "light" stuff are also getting more armour (APC, IFV, even artillery) that in turn require more punch to able to have effect on target. But logistics is gonna turn into a nightmare if your gonna have 7-8 or more types of ammo. But I think modern military do recognize that you might need to send in IFV to stop tanks and thus we have IFV instead of APC's in most modern countries.
@@davidbridges3292 We Swedes have known this for 30 years, welcome to the club. By the way our IFV as known as CV90 is for sale if you want to buy it brits / americans. Hence the need for IFV's that are really mobile and here CV90 is king. It can carry 8 soldiers and it has good speed and mobility to do this task, spread out your infantry. This is also why the CV90 has become so popular I think. Most western militaries have realized this and rather go for mobility with IFV's instead of main battle tanks. The CV9040 drops off troops within 0-50m from the enemy position, or simply drives up to it and let's the troops fight mounted. In Afghanistan it was apparently tremendously deadly. The Danish or Norwegians were caught in some kind of fight/ambush and they annihilated the enemy.
I’m 16 and am currently just waiting for my medical details to come back and I am waiting for a date for selection, I am very excited about joining. I have applied to be a REME and I would like to know more about basic training at 16
Im a gunner on the current warrior. As good as this all sounds. As far as we know we wont be seeing these new warriors in our sheds till atleast 2020....
Seeing the direction most apcs are going, I wonder if there'l be demand for a basic but still decently armourded battlefield taxi like the Patria 6x6 that's currently being developed.
British has been developing a stabilized 40mm for a Warrior for the last maybe 5 years - instant praise and gloryfication. Russians has been developing a stabilized 57mm with installed-by-default ATGMs for new generation IFVs for the last maybe 5 years - instant hate and pointing out how late they are. Gotta love the current world situation, honestly
Heavy ifvs at best these russia things are so big they defeat the purpose of putting them on a armored vehicle. Especially when they already use Very effective ifvs in the form of the BTR-T series of vehicles. I mean the Armata based IFV is as big as an Stryker and with the 57mm turret its taller then the strike package stryker.
What other armour has Warrior had to fight against that it hasn’t been able to overcome? Seems reasonable to upgrade it (wasn’t it designed in the 1970’s) but it appears to have been very sensibly operated and upgraded over its service life.
She is a beautiful I.F.V. She needs this upgrade in order to put heavier firepower down range to defend its infantry. I understand budget restraints especially with the Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers being put into service. The carriers need to be put in service to keep up with modern naval combat operations. Personally I think the warrior with its 40 mm stabilized gun could add an extra punch by carrying a limited amount of depleted uranium rounds. It would come in Handy in certain situations. Especially if it came up against older medium tanks with out added on armor packages. The 40 mm would have no problem dealing With lightly armored vehicles. And yes i know depleted uranium rounds cost a lot but it would only take a few rounds to eliminate a medium tank.
So in summation, gentlemen... What you have before you is: A troop transport that can't carry troops, A reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance, And a quasi tank that has less armour than a snowblower, but has enough ammo to take out half of D.C. Fantastic!
You’d be surprised, the CT40 is probably quite potent against armour. It fires a tungsten APFSDS round and because it’s cased telescopic ammunition it’s very high velocity. It’s primary role is obviously fire support for the infantry, therefore the HE and HEVTF are probably more useful. It’s not designed to go toe-to-toe with MBT’s but would probably put up a good fight at medium to short ranges, the small APFSDS round fired in large quantities would smash barrels and optics, as well as ripping tracks and fuel tanks. The small rounds would also sneak their way in through turret ring gaps and similar universal weak spots. From the side, the 40mm CTA APFSDS would absolutely destroy tanks and other armoured vehicles. However, it’s unlikely that these Warriors would face any MBT’s without the aid of the Apache Longbow or the Challenger 2, which are designed to kill tanks.
i am glad to see the brits move to a belt fed system for their IFVs, like every other NATO nation has. also glad to see the challenger 2 apparently getting an upgraded turret with a 120mm smooth bore gun, like every other NATO nation has. no more separate loading round and charge bag.
It seems to me that the Brit MoD is way less bureaucratic than many others I became acquainted with. Including mine, of course. Kudos on the upgrade! :-) Ps- Regarding the digital comms you mentioned at some point, yes, you were right on the money, comms are part of a whole package all big names (IE, Raytheon, Thales) keep offering and upgrading. It involves everything - yes, everything - concerning mission planning, awareness and execution, with a boatload of features. You can have every bit of info gathered all the way from sats, to air or ground recon, and then distribute it to each element in a non-overwhelming, need-by-need basis. Brass at the tent sees everything in real time and makes the calls on the spot, aided by different operators. Anyway, won't bore you with this haha! Thanks for the great video Mat, no, I never forget to click on that thumbs-up :-) Have a good one mate!
The opposite really. The british MoD, along with the US DoD is probably the most bureaucratic in the world. It took them almost 20 years to adopt the Boxer.
@@jonny2954 Ohh bummer. You know when "you've heard about", but still "you want to believe that..." well, that was me on this one haha! I'm very sorry to hear that. The whole video really made it sound like the upgrade went from decision to motion in a smooth and rather fast fashion. Oh by the way, I'm not American m'friend, however I am indeed aware of how brutally bureaucratic their DoD is. May you have a great day sir!
@@hansvonmannschaft9062 This project, the Warrior Capability Sustainment Programme (WCSP) was started 8 years ago. Now it's 3.5 years delayed, more than £400m over budget and there are not enough viable hulls to upgrade (most of the hulls don't have the required structural integrity due to aluminium delamination issues).
When it came out, I wondered if the basic RARDEN gun design couldn't have been done in 35x228 instead of 30x170? That would have been an outstanding piece of kit, and still fully competitive today.
There were some glaring omissions in this vid. It drove me a little crazy while I was watching it. You did not explain the revolutionary nature of the cased telescoped 40x255mm ammuniton for the gun. The projectile is entirely inside the case, with nothing projecting beyond the case mouth. This makes the 40X255mm ammo significantly shorter than conventional 40x365nnR ammo used in the Bofors L/70; the former being about half the length of the latter. That compactness saves a huge amount of space in a vehicle where space is a critical and scarce commodity. The gun itself is equally revolutionary. It uses a rotating breech system that makes the gun incredibly compact for a 40mm autocannon. The 40x255mm CTWS is the same size and weight as the 25x137mm chain gun in the Bradley IFV, an amazing technical achievement. The gun and its feed system has proven to be extremely reliable and easy to maintain. Its accuracy is outstanding. The CTWS offers a 200 rpm firing rate, as opposed to the 90 rpm rate of the Rarden. This makes the CTWS more effective when engaging aerial targets like groups of attack helos or drone swarms. Further, you stated that the 40x255mm CT ammo had "a bit more punch" than the 30x170mm Rarden round. I guess I can write this off to typical British understatement, but you should have provided a bit more perspective on this. The Rarden fires a 360g HE projectile while the CTWS fires a 1kg HE projectile; nearly three times as heavy. The frag saturation area of the CTWS HE shell is ~8 times as large as that of the Rarden. The Rarden APDS round can penetrate ~55mm of RHA.EQ while the CTWS APDS round can penetrate ~175mm of RHAEQ. The 40x255mm round also can provide an airburst that saturates a 125 m² area with high velocity tungsten pellets. As you can see, the CTWS represents a quantum improvement in performance over the Rarden. One last thing.... You at one point in the vid described the CTWS ammo as "caseless". It is telescoping case, not caseless. I suspect you understood this and just mispoke, so no worries.
It's a dead end move. Americans are upgrading to 50mm and are developing a whole range of very impressive rounds for it. 40mm is surely a great cannon but why reinvent the wheel and stand out when instead of just joking a well funded and futureproof XM913 program?
..OK. The Network upgrade is designed to share targets between infantry, armored & air units. Think of Warrior selecting a target for lock-on for a AH-64 Longbow firing AT's or APKWS modified 2.75 inch rockets (makes them guided). The CTA System is far more lethal than you made out. The amo bins will currently handle an Anti Armour round that almost doubles the kinetic damage of a 40mm round... that is it's effect on Armour plate is closer to the penetration of an 80mm round. The second deployed round is a SMART shrapnel round that can be fused to a specific distance. Blow a hole in a wall, the second burst round shreds the occupants... pretty nasty. As for the Boxer... Personally I thought the BAE Alligator program offered a more useful/modular solution.
To be honest with you I think the warrior should remain as the main I.F.V until the British can come up with a mark II . Personally I think the mark II should be two feet longer with an engine that wouldn’t hamper its speed. If the basic perimeters are adhered to then it shouldn’t be a problem. The extra two feet could give space for two more solders or an added infantry weapon system. The extra two feet could also make room for a shorter barrel . The shorter barrel would come in handy in short range Urban combat. The shorter barrel is stored in side and installed before urban combat.
@@gigihsetiawanp62 Different kind of stabilization, and that only makes this vehicle look even worse. Stabilization did not become standard until the 1980s, and as we see - even afterwards vehicles without stabilized guns exist.
It needs a bigger gun so it can be used as a medium build tank. Especially with the Ajax coming into service. You could even put another 10-15 ton to it's weight and give it more armour, with a fixe TOW system attached. The Warrior would make much more sense to me then. A fast, agyle medium tank able to cross distance at pace and still pack a punch.
The gun off an A10 is bigger than a warrior. But the idea is good. Make it for fitment to a challenger chassis with a turret of it's own. Self loading with gyro stabilization, night vision. That would be our " Terminator" like the Russian unit
Last time I checked everything in the BAF needs to be upgraded in some way but luckily we are getting close to being a more modern country prepared for fighting other modern country’s and toyotas
All what you have been saying has been part of the US Army Bradley and the US Marine LAV systems since their developments in the 1980s. That is the gun and weapons stabilization system has to be equal to any main battle tank. That means stabilization, thermal imaging, and proper bore sight procedures. The Blue Force Tracking System has been standard on all US vehicles since it's introduction in 2000. I had seen this at Ft. Irwin CA. It was implemented as part of Land Warrior by the 4th Infantry Division. It was tested during our simulated combat exercises against us the 11th ACR and it was successful. Almost.. The problem for the Blue Force was simulated combat. The 11th ACR as a Soviet style American trained force using Soviet Doctrine was able to smash Blue Force in simulated combat. Years later in Iraq and Afghanistan Land Warrior was successful against the real enemy because of the communication, satellite tracking system, and real time engagements. It saturated enemy positions with coordinated fire from integral units to continue an advance which have been equaled to Desert Storm but slower because of infantry combat. Technology of this sort will be commonplace in all future combat engagements. The only problem will be within the platoon, squad or section fight. I am sure the US Army is working on this. The Army is still working on how dependent they are in combat on the infantry squad engaged in combat and putting the whole big picture to the entire operational scope of the battle before them. This is nothing new. The concept has been around for a long time. The only reason why they are implementing them is because of funding. If the Army was sustaining more casualties then this system would have been in place back then instead of now. The US Army is still developing from this existing technology as of now. Fucking surprises me because I came from the 1980s Army Infantry and fought in Iraq. I was able to see the technology and use it for locating my unit's position to get supplies and reinforcement in combat. I always know I can't rely on technology to navigate and get shit done. I always taught my soldiers to go retrograde when all systems fail in combat. Move, Shoot, Communicate, is the Infantry way of combat.
Should've contracted with Bofors for the whole thing: would have had a better gun that would have a longer service life, in a better turret & other system improvements, for half the price, and vehicles would already be being upgraded.
How many troops will it be able to carry? Has it had to sacrifice what it was intended to do which was be a troop carrier, so it can have a bigger gun? Bigger gun means bigger turret right? So where does the more space come from?
The Warrior Tea Transporter is often overlooked by military analysts yet it plays an important role in the morale of the Englishman at Arms. It can brew the tea on the move with its carbon water filter using the same tech as Bosch instant household hot water heaters with a manual option to rout the water through stainless tubing coiled around the upper exhaust pipe. The Tea Kettle is 416 weapons grade stainless with the same servos that balance the 40 mm cannon except it keeps the tealeaves from being sloshed and frothing the tea over rough terrain. Another benefit of the KSU (Kettle Stabilizer Unit) is keeping the tea leaves from crumbling and making the tea too bitter in conjunction with the triple filtration system. The triple filtration is through a folded T shirt of pure cotton, a cylinder of tube socks and the dust prefilter from the soldier gas mask canister. This way it can be maintained when the vehicle is at extended range from the supply chain. The Cream, Sugar and crumpet cases are still top secret but there's nothing like them in the world regarding quality, survivability, and upgradeability.
Your well funny 😄 thanks I needed a good laugh ta. I wonder where they keep the tea towels ?
Have you been on the seaweed again?
The boiling vessel…Britain’s secret weapon has the rest of the world in awe 😮
Amazing isn't it, at the start of WW2 the main anti tank gun on tanks was 37mm and they loaded it one shell at a time.
Now APC's have 40mm guns that fire on automatic...
And 30mm gatling guns that fire 3900 rounds a minute.
@@Gerbs1913 Is that 5 barrels worn out per minute with Cta 40 lol
Modern IFVs fill the roll of the light tank and APC. They scout, suppress infantry and transport them. all on a budget.
They also had 37mm auto cannon...
Yes, and many of the tanks and other armoured vehicles during the Second World War would have been no match for modern-day infantry fighting vehicles. IFV's mounting either a 30 or 40mm gun firing programmable proximity-burst rounds would have been absolute murder even on dug-in infantry.
The ground portion of the Second World War would have ended fairly quickly if somehow modern-day IFV's could have been deployed through some weird kind of time travel or time warp.
Pentagon Wars was right at some point the APCs are so focussed on fighting that the soldier have to start to walk again.
They're too cheap to actually provide the soldiers with battle taxi... haha
@@X.Y.Z.07 well if these are kept in service of course that's what they ARE for, in theory anyway
@@revolverswitch So like a floating fortress? Almost like a War Balloon, sans balloon and add wings and doing loops?
pentagon wars is genius in iit's prediction of future procuration of fighting vehicles. Amazingly.
@@revolverswitch Don't laugh. I read of one idea to repurpose C-130s or strategic bombers as missile buses with F-22s and F-35s up front as passive target detectors and terminal guidance units. All the tech in the guys up front, all the firepower (and resulting high signature) in the back spewing out missiles.
I showed this to my Dog, he's now serving in Afghanistan...
Taliban dog?
NICK THORP obviously not it is a warrior after all
@@nickthorp5790 No, he's a Corporal in the British Army. Show some respect...
@@nickthorp5790 yes
Good boy.
Excellent move! The 40mm upgrade is an order of magnitude jump in hitting power...the 40mm is a sledge hammer with the right ammo. Good idea.
Not really. The cost of ammo just doubled for the tax payer.
@@robertcornelius3514 Per round, yes, but you need less rounds and individual rounds can do more.
@@robertcornelius3514 2x the bang for 2x the buck.
Or as it's British, twice the pound for... twice the pound.
40mm air burst is naaaaasty
@@Treblainebigger stick bigger bonk
The french are installing that 40mm in their new Jaguar EBRC Recon Vehicle.
Great upgrade.
I'd love to see a lateral ATGM mount as well (Spike?) to give it the capability to engage heavy armor at longer ranges as well, to relief the shrunken Challeneger force a bit and stronger frontal/lateral armor/ERA/cage to counter HEAT shells and ATGMs/RPGs. It's nice to have a main weapon that can reach out and has a evil punch, but so do a lot of potentially adverserial vehicles, zo protection needs to evolve as well imho. And I'd love to see an armor protection system (Trophy or equivalent), just giving the vehicle and its crew/infantry squad that extra bit of protection. But I would totally get it, if the MoD decides not to do that and wait for a version of the AJAX arnored scout vehicle suitable for IFV, so that the turret might be transferred to that.
One point of concern; it is my understanding that the CT40 gun mainly is designed to combat lightly armored vehicles, demounted infantry and helicopters, but is less capable to do serious damage to more heavily armored IFVs at mid range, due to the loss of kinetic energy the telescopic rounds produce. I don't know wether that is true... The German Puma with its 30mm on the other hand is said to have a devastatingly hard hitting AP round, just like the CV90/35 and CV90/40, which are said to also have a bit mnore effective range against armored vehicles (up to 3.000m against 2.000m for the CT40). Can't seem to be able to find enough data on the CT40 though...
Since they are upgrading the turret and during GW2 they mounted MILAN on the turrets of a few Warriors I would have expected it to be a capability to be added later just to shift costs a bit, it would be a nice addition though
@@chaz8758 Agree, you never know when ypu run into an angry MBT. If that occurs it's always nice to know one has something at hand to match that big boom stick of his (grin). Preferably something with a bit more range than the Javelin, since that requires operating well within range of its gun (ad thermal imaging sights), something I never felt comfortably with operating the M-47 Dragon in my time with the armor infantry (with only 1.100m of range, well within the range of a coaxial MG).
@@Pincer88 Javelin is being updated with twice the range.
@@bradleyanderson4315 That's excellent news. Thanks for the update.
Its such a weird thing, on camp the name Matsimus is like armed forces legend. Everyone knows of him, even the OC. Pity about the REME part, could be worse....could be RMP ;)
Lol
Dude thats some seriously sexy stuff
360 is a must all crew needs to be aware, the camera can be cleaned by compressed air nozzle on the lens.
They should should just give it a CITV system like the Bradley and modern tanks have. Instead of mounting cameras all over just give the commander a camera that swivels and stick a monitor hooked up to it in the troop compartment. I think that's much better than having stationary cameras all over.
@@huntforandrew But if CITV gets shot...
Multiple cameras(preferrably with overlapping views) allow on-board computer to piece together images from all cameras(cars already can do this today) for a panoramic view of the battlefield(without having a panning camera that can be hit and disabled easily).
Like this:
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But better.
Why does warriors have no stabilization on 30mm gun? Looks like a huge disadvantage how he wiggle his gun up and down.
Simply to save space. Stabilisers take up room, and they wanted to keep the turret as small as possible. The thing was never intended to fight on the move.
I wouldn't like to load a clip of 30 mm on the move ,with a stabilised gun
In short? Theyre old
They're also manually loaded.
The gun is also a short-recoil design that's supposed to even fit armored cars.
In short, it was a bad fit.
The more I learn about the Warrior the more I think that not a single good idea was had during it's design process.
Let's hope they correctly implement the chain gun correctly this time. If I remember correctly back in the 90's it was mounted upside down or something.
The chaingun is the piece that was mounted upside down
Saw this thing at tank fest this year , looks like a complete new vehicle in comparison to the current version
Awesome, really digging that retro-Cromwell turret look with the modular armour.
Was a gunner in the 90's,that rarden was a complete pain in the arse to strip and clean. Hughes chain gun was shit as well....here's a good idea let's use a gravity fed weapon system but turn it upside down so it stretches the 762 link and jams constantly.
Thanks Matsimus, always a good show!
Great video. I believe the 40mm weapon is referred to as CTA: case telescoped armament, where the projectile is embedded in the cartridge case.
Just a small correction: 'CTA' stands for Caseless Telescoped Ammunition.
The sound of that 40mm, I’d hate to be on the receiving end of that! I have an allergy to 40mm rounds.
I like these new cartridge schemes. You can put a larger caliber explosive round, or use a sabot instead of the classic necked down caliber cartridge, and you can do it in the same [ammo] space.
Warrior upgrades, Chally 2 upgrades, procurement of Boxer and Ajax vehicles is fantastic and sounds really great for the modern British Army going into the future.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
When I went to Army careers office as a boy in 1989, before i joined up at 16 in 1990, the literature and brochures I got had the new Warrior vehicles in fancy exercise pictures and it looked modern and fantastic. It never crossed my mind that 30 years later, we're still talking about the Warrior in the British Army and just waiting for a life extension programme that will keep it going for probably about another 20 years. We certainly know how to get our money's worth from military hardware..... think about the Lee Enfield. 303, the brilliant SLR, the Scimitar, the FV 432 and the Warrior. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Mini leopard 2, turret, however as an engineer ive always had questions about the ammo capacity and fire rate of that new cannon.
I had fun in Light Aid Detachments with their predecessors, the FV434's and FV432's of the 22 Cheshire Rgt in Minden, followed by the CVR(T) Scorpion, Scimitar, Samson, Spartan etc. with the 13/18 Hussars in Wimbish UK before getting sent on to 12 Armoured Workshop in Osnabruck. Detachment trips in between to Northern Ireland, Wales gunnery ranges, 2 Cyprus UN tours and Sunny Belize. Fun times in the REME, 1976-1984. Miscellaneous old junk we worked on; Fox's, Ferrets, Bedford 3 tonners, Stalwarts, Humber pigs, Saracens and every old, scabby Land Rover variant under the sun 😁
Man, had to really rack my brains trying to remember, seems so long ago now.
I've been watching bits and bobs of yours for a while, figured I ought to finally subscribe. I find military vehicles fascinating from the engineering perspective (I also believe that there are too many trade offs made between new and shiny vs Ronseal and built to last but hey, I'm an outsider) and remember seeing many proposed upgrades, new systems etc in a publication called Military Technology way back when. You seem to be my best source for my engineering fix!
Strictly speaking windows also get covered in dust, doesn't mean we stop using them, which is why it's good to have wipers on both.
As a former RARDEN gunner on CVRT this really is a game changer. RARDEN really is a pig to fire on the move and should not be attempted on the move - fire would only be attempted in staggered 'bounds'. Matt this really is screaming out for an piece on AJAX ........................
Up to the point and factual as always. Thanx so much. The monitor scenes also corresponding with what is said and explained that even a not-pro millitary person will follow easily. It will be smart if a comparison video is produced of same type vehicles of different nations discussing everyone in fine detail putting also some historical facts for getting a better understanding.
Since the Ajax programme appears to be on the verge of being discontinued, why don't the British Army take a bunch of upgraded Warriors and turn them into recce variants? The rear troop compartment could be converted into a workstation area for an observer/radio operator/systems operator. Meanwhile, the commander commands the vehicle and the gunner engages targets when necessary and also acts as a second observer.
I like the idea, it makes sense, so the MOD won't go with it...
Meanwhile the USA is planning on putting a 50mm chain gun in the Bradley's replacement
Remember when the Bradley was meant to be an APC, but became a troop transport that can't carry troops, a scout vehicle that is too tall and slow to scout, and a light tank that has enough firepower to level a city block but with barely enough armor to resist a small cannon
Moop basically a tank destroyer with thin armor.
@@CharliMorganMusic I find the Panhard EBR sexier
@@CharliMorganMusic it's almost like the military realised the M113 would work fine as an APC, and what they really needed was an IFV for frontline support roles...
Except that 50 mm is just a necked out 35 mm.
Will we ever get rid of this cold war beast? I think the M.O.D are hanging onto the Warrior like some tattered old, mangy but much loved family dog.
A fully stabilised 40mm gun upgrade, auto loader, updated fire control system, better all round visibility, alongside upgraded armour will keep the Warrior around for years to come. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
It's been hard to keep track of this one. 245 will receive the upgraded turret and electronics, another 100 the upgraded electronics and then the rest will have the turret removed and turned into battlefield taxis. So how many will that be in total?
I can't upgrade everything tight budget got to pay for that NHS
@@sunnycat69 I know I've just been trying to work out would it have just been cheaper to scrap them and order another 240 ajax for £1bn. LM was pissed away a lot of money redesigning turrets because they thought they could install the cta cannon on the original. Never should have been selected over BAE, it was just to prove a point over the nimrod and astute screw ups.
@@sunnycat69 Fuck you.
Infantry support vehicle is the word i was looking for 👍
Good stuff! Thanks!
Great review as always!
Still needs a ATGW system to combat MBT's when they will inevitably come across them.
Another great video Matt, really enjoy your content.
FINALLY STABILISED GUNS!!!! *ORGASM .MP3*
Finally a step into the 21st century and only two decades late :)))))
It’s a beast a god damn beauty, I loved it second stage fan sucking in everything nearby. Needs a new turret and a new engine CV 8 can’t ho on for much longer.
realy dig this beast, great vid Mat as all ways
I always liked the Warrior. Its even better now.
Quick firing 4cm autocanon? We finally have a proper gun for the Churchill tank. When can we expect this cannon to be mounted in Mosquitos for tank busting?
ah, the Churchill, ugly as sin, Armed like a medium tank, slower than a heavy tank, as heavily armoured as a tiger and could cross terrain other tanks couldn't dream of, it worked surprisingly well all things considered.
Looks a solid upgrade.
New systems on is fantastic.
But dear god that turret looks awful
@Charles Yuditsky Looks way worse than a leo 2 lol
i think it looks fine reminds me of the Cromwell
@Charles Yuditsky Cromwell
@@GI.Jared1984 At least the cromwells symmetrical
It doesn't have to look nice. It has to work.
Why is that Warrior shooting at a Punch & Judy show?
Cos "thats the way they do it!"
Hey, you never know, those glove puppets could be insurgents in disguise!
I say re-engine the M4 Sherman (we've still got lots in Cosmoline), extend the crew compartment rearward, add three more seats . . . thermal imagers . . . think of how inexpensive spare parts would be! You might even downgun it to a reliable autocannon (I love the 40mm/L60 of course) . . . or regun it with the new Bofors 57mm . . . lots of room, lots of armor, a good turn of speed . . .
Heck! Do the same thing with Churchill Mk IX! A 750hp Gas Turbine (about the same size as the twin lorry motors of the original), fit a few extra seats in, a la AVRE, and arm the turret with a PAIR of 40mm Bofors guns . . . thermal imagers . . . a satellite uplink . . . I mean, imagine the enemy's reaction to a 40mph, 150mm armored, Churchill!
That's not actually very good these days. Many autocannons can go through 50-150mm of steel pretty easily
@@alexdunphy3716 not if you stick ERA over that in turn they can't
@@alexdunphy3716 Well, I haven't seen that happen yet. I am happy to hear an opposing idea, of course. RHA is still RHA, I think.
Sounds like a fun plastic model kit bash as it's called. Like a P-47 with Bullpup or Hellfire missiles.
Thanks for a considered response. I appreciate your point, but beg to differ. I cite the overreaching price of new tech. Old refits are far cheaper, in many notable cases. Not all, of course. But, when you have tens of thousands of an old tech item still in inventory . . . it brings down the price a lot.
Always liked the warrior. This, in theory, should be a good upgrade.
Hello Matsimus - I think the UK could have upgraded the Warrior ages ago and with considerably less cost and fuss. A new or modified turret with an existing, fully-stabilized 30mm dual-feed cannon, mated to new thermal sights and a fire control system using mainly off-the shelf components from UK suppliers, could have put plenty of people to work and given the Army an low-risk 80-90% solution a decade or more ago. (You could have been firing air-burst munitions at the dushmen behind cover.) Agreed that the CTIA 40 mike-mike is cool, but it comes at great cost and at the expense of timeliness. Why pursue a gold-/platinum-plated solution when there are so many other capability enhancement programs that need resources? A lost opportunity to marry economy with practicality, IMO.
Post just as I unlock this in war thunder! Thanks Mat!
Winston Churchill the cally 2 and warrior are so good on war thunder. Im working on getting the stormer and phantom
@@killagamez4619 They're good, but both support vehicles. Currently the Vickers is Britains best top tier vehicle as it fits the meta of the game. Mobility.
Eddy S true. Chally 2 is good at that wave mode against AI because you hull down most of the time
The RARDEN's 30mm round travels at 1000m/s
The new 40x255mm for the CTAS40 goes 1600m/s
If you include the heavier projectile that is a _considerable_ increase in how hard you're hitting
I wonder what the penetration is.
probably in excess of 100mm RHS equivalent up close, will mostly depend on the warhead at any feasible range. Would not be surprised if ATGMs form the anti-armour punch and the 40mm becomes anti-structure/sensor based fragmentation for infantry.
140 mm RHA at 1500 meters. Not very much for a 40 mm but that is because it focuses on HE and airburst payload increase, not KE penetration.
40mm is an excellent bore size. enough of a payload to really definitely ruin someone's day on the other side. can essentially be used as a sniping platform
I hope the American Bradley gets something big like a 50 mm or 37 mm
Unless the Tea maker is upgraded too, I don't want ro hear about it
It just won't do :)
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but the new turret on the Warrior is the "same" as the Ajax. Commonality to keep costs down. There is also upgrades to the suspension to allow weight growth. I don't know if the engine has changed or upgraded though.
Nice to see the Warrior getting a new weapon / interface system.
A penny for your thoughts on the CAMO system for the French (and Belgian) army featuring the new Jaguar / Griffon and refurbished Leclerc MBT [France only - maybe even with a 140mm cannon] ;)
You can talk about how amazing These things are but frankly there are very few AFVs in the British park like 200 or so... THAT'S IT.
Mat great review Mate! 👀👍
40mm it's just the right caliber today.
As a Swede , im positivly suprised that the British upgrade to 40mm , and glad that they join the 40 mill family. I would have guess british would follow the yanks and go 50 mill.
to me this move to ever larger and heavier cannons seems counter productive. There's the tempting advantages of greater punch and range. But at the cost of greater weight and fewer shells between having to back out of a battle and return to reload. Also the added burden on the logistical supply lines with too many types of ammo. Also, some of the wheeled vehicles, Boxer, may struggle to be armed with such heavy cannons. I, as a yank, hope we can restrain from going over to the 50 mm. If we adopt the same 40 mm, it would help from the logistical stand point and hopefully keep the weight of the cannon and its shells from creating more problems than it solves. I'm also reminded of world war 2, with regards to the German Puma. The German officers knew it wasn't a tank, and it only weighted in at 11 tons, yet it couldn't cope with Shermans' that weighted 3 times as much.
Hopefully the officers' who send these light weight vehicles into battle don't send them into situations that are otherwise suicidal. In the heat of battle, officers will often give in to temptation and employ these vehicles recklessly. A lot of those Puma crews, out of desperation of officers, where sent into combat situations the vehicle was never designed for and died like flys.
@@davidbridges3292 I can see your point , however its not the main gun thats supposed to engage enemy MBT or heavy stuff , its the dismounted infantry , and in emergency they can use the onboard missile system(at least in Sweden). And if they encounter something less then a MBT they can be offensive and take the initiative (in theory). But all the "light" stuff are also getting more armour (APC, IFV, even artillery) that in turn require more punch to able to have effect on target. But logistics is gonna turn into a nightmare if your gonna have 7-8 or more types of ammo. But I think modern military do recognize that you might need to send in IFV to stop tanks and thus we have IFV instead of APC's in most modern countries.
@@davidbridges3292 We Swedes have known this for 30 years, welcome to the club. By the way our IFV as known as CV90 is for sale if you want to buy it brits / americans.
Hence the need for IFV's that are really mobile and here CV90 is king. It can carry 8 soldiers and it has good speed and mobility to do this task, spread out your infantry.
This is also why the CV90 has become so popular I think. Most western militaries have realized this and rather go for mobility with IFV's instead of main battle tanks.
The CV9040 drops off troops within 0-50m from the enemy position, or simply drives up to it and let's the troops fight mounted.
In Afghanistan it was apparently tremendously deadly. The Danish or Norwegians were caught in some kind of fight/ambush and they annihilated the enemy.
I’m 16 and am currently just waiting for my medical details to come back and I am waiting for a date for selection, I am very excited about joining. I have applied to be a REME and I would like to know more about basic training at 16
Do some push ups, pull ups, flutter kicks, situps, and burpees till you want to puke, and then, run till you do.
Don't worry. By the time Capita process your application you'll be about 23 anyway.
Im a gunner on the current warrior. As good as this all sounds. As far as we know we wont be seeing these new warriors in our sheds till atleast 2020....
Two words.
Cobham armour. Crew survivability is a matter of trust by a crew.
Seeing the direction most apcs are going, I wonder if there'l be demand for a basic but still decently armourded battlefield taxi like the Patria 6x6 that's currently being developed.
Land Rover and Humvee battlefield replacement vehicles
Don't get cocky people, it's not going to happen.. Boxer is replacing the warrior perfectly...
From the future....
British has been developing a stabilized 40mm for a Warrior for the last maybe 5 years - instant praise and gloryfication.
Russians has been developing a stabilized 57mm with installed-by-default ATGMs for new generation IFVs for the last maybe 5 years - instant hate and pointing out how late they are.
Gotta love the current world situation, honestly
Heavy ifvs at best these russia things are so big they defeat the purpose of putting them on a armored vehicle. Especially when they already use Very effective ifvs in the form of the BTR-T series of vehicles.
I mean the Armata based IFV is as big as an Stryker and with the 57mm turret its taller then the strike package stryker.
What other armour has Warrior had to fight against that it hasn’t been able to overcome? Seems reasonable to upgrade it (wasn’t it designed in the 1970’s) but it appears to have been very sensibly operated and upgraded over its service life.
She is a beautiful I.F.V. She needs this upgrade in order to put heavier firepower down range to defend its infantry. I understand budget restraints especially with the Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers being put into service. The carriers need to be put in service to keep up with modern naval combat operations.
Personally I think the warrior with its 40 mm stabilized gun could add an extra punch by carrying a limited amount of depleted uranium rounds. It would come in
Handy in certain situations. Especially if it came up against older medium tanks with out added on armor packages. The 40 mm would have no problem dealing
With lightly armored vehicles. And yes i know depleted uranium rounds cost a lot but it would only take a few rounds to eliminate a medium tank.
So in summation, gentlemen... What you have before you is:
A troop transport that can't carry troops,
A reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance,
And a quasi tank that has less armour than a snowblower, but has enough ammo to take out half of D.C.
Fantastic!
More toys for the boys! I think it needs a couple of Wizz bangs on the side for MBT's otherwise that 40 is only gonna chip paint.
You’d be surprised, the CT40 is probably quite potent against armour. It fires a tungsten APFSDS round and because it’s cased telescopic ammunition it’s very high velocity. It’s primary role is obviously fire support for the infantry, therefore the HE and HEVTF are probably more useful. It’s not designed to go toe-to-toe with MBT’s but would probably put up a good fight at medium to short ranges, the small APFSDS round fired in large quantities would smash barrels and optics, as well as ripping tracks and fuel tanks. The small rounds would also sneak their way in through turret ring gaps and similar universal weak spots. From the side, the 40mm CTA APFSDS would absolutely destroy tanks and other armoured vehicles. However, it’s unlikely that these Warriors would face any MBT’s without the aid of the Apache Longbow or the Challenger 2, which are designed to kill tanks.
i am glad to see the brits move to a belt fed system for their IFVs, like every other NATO nation has. also glad to see the challenger 2 apparently getting an upgraded turret with a 120mm smooth bore gun, like every other NATO nation has. no more separate loading round and charge bag.
Is it going to get a stabilizer
Why was stabilization not present in the current version?
It seems to me that the Brit MoD is way less bureaucratic than many others I became acquainted with. Including mine, of course. Kudos on the upgrade! :-)
Ps- Regarding the digital comms you mentioned at some point, yes, you were right on the money, comms are part of a whole package all big names (IE, Raytheon, Thales) keep offering and upgrading. It involves everything - yes, everything - concerning mission planning, awareness and execution, with a boatload of features. You can have every bit of info gathered all the way from sats, to air or ground recon, and then distribute it to each element in a non-overwhelming, need-by-need basis. Brass at the tent sees everything in real time and makes the calls on the spot, aided by different operators. Anyway, won't bore you with this haha! Thanks for the great video Mat, no, I never forget to click on that thumbs-up :-) Have a good one mate!
The opposite really. The british MoD, along with the US DoD is probably the most bureaucratic in the world. It took them almost 20 years to adopt the Boxer.
@@jonny2954 Ohh bummer. You know when "you've heard about", but still "you want to believe that..." well, that was me on this one haha!
I'm very sorry to hear that. The whole video really made it sound like the upgrade went from decision to motion in a smooth and rather fast fashion.
Oh by the way, I'm not American m'friend, however I am indeed aware of how brutally bureaucratic their DoD is.
May you have a great day sir!
@@hansvonmannschaft9062 This project, the Warrior Capability Sustainment Programme (WCSP) was started 8 years ago. Now it's 3.5 years delayed, more than £400m over budget and there are not enough viable hulls to upgrade (most of the hulls don't have the required structural integrity due to aluminium delamination issues).
Marvin Heymeier fixed the camera dust problem
Camera's getting dusty sounds like an easy thing to solve. Even consumer cars have windshield wipers and water sprayers.
Nice one Mats, AeM.
When it came out, I wondered if the basic RARDEN gun design couldn't have been done in 35x228 instead of 30x170? That would have been an outstanding piece of kit, and still fully competitive today.
Hey hey there. Thanks for the vid sir.
There were some glaring omissions in this vid. It drove me a little crazy while I was watching it.
You did not explain the revolutionary nature of the cased telescoped 40x255mm ammuniton for the gun. The projectile is entirely inside the case, with nothing projecting beyond the case mouth. This makes the 40X255mm ammo significantly shorter than conventional 40x365nnR ammo used in the Bofors L/70; the former being about half the length of the latter. That compactness saves a huge amount of space in a vehicle where space is a critical and scarce commodity.
The gun itself is equally revolutionary. It uses a rotating breech system that makes the gun incredibly compact for a 40mm autocannon. The 40x255mm CTWS is the same size and weight as the 25x137mm chain gun in the Bradley IFV, an amazing technical achievement. The gun and its feed system has proven to be extremely reliable and easy to maintain. Its accuracy is outstanding. The CTWS offers a 200 rpm firing rate, as opposed to the 90 rpm rate of the Rarden. This makes the CTWS more effective when engaging aerial targets like groups of attack helos or drone swarms.
Further, you stated that the 40x255mm CT ammo had "a bit more punch" than the 30x170mm Rarden round. I guess I can write this off to typical British understatement, but you should have provided a bit more perspective on this. The Rarden fires a 360g HE projectile while the CTWS fires a 1kg HE projectile; nearly three times as heavy. The frag saturation area of the CTWS HE shell is ~8 times as large as that of the Rarden. The Rarden APDS round can penetrate ~55mm of RHA.EQ while the CTWS APDS round can penetrate ~175mm of RHAEQ. The 40x255mm round also can provide an airburst that saturates a 125 m² area with high velocity tungsten pellets. As you can see, the CTWS represents a quantum improvement in performance over the Rarden.
One last thing.... You at one point in the vid described the CTWS ammo as "caseless". It is telescoping case, not caseless. I suspect you understood this and just mispoke, so no worries.
It's a dead end move. Americans are upgrading to 50mm and are developing a whole range of very impressive rounds for it. 40mm is surely a great cannon but why reinvent the wheel and stand out when instead of just joking a well funded and futureproof XM913 program?
Because 50 means that you can carry less bullets with you.
..OK. The Network upgrade is designed to share targets between infantry, armored & air units. Think of Warrior selecting a target for lock-on for a AH-64 Longbow firing AT's or APKWS modified 2.75 inch rockets (makes them guided). The CTA System is far more lethal than you made out. The amo bins will currently handle an Anti Armour round that almost doubles the kinetic damage of a 40mm round... that is it's effect on Armour plate is closer to the penetration of an 80mm round. The second deployed round is a SMART shrapnel round that can be fused to a specific distance. Blow a hole in a wall, the second burst round shreds the occupants... pretty nasty. As for the Boxer... Personally I thought the BAE Alligator program offered a more useful/modular solution.
To be honest with you I think the warrior should remain as the main I.F.V until the British can come up with a mark II . Personally I think the mark II should be two feet longer with an engine that wouldn’t hamper its speed. If the basic perimeters are adhered to then it shouldn’t be a problem. The extra two feet could give space for two more solders or an added infantry weapon system. The extra two feet could also make room for a shorter barrel . The shorter barrel would come in handy in short range
Urban combat. The shorter barrel is stored in side and installed before urban combat.
Do you know how quickly a warrior can move? They blow Leo's away.
Upgrade to 30mm or 35mm fine! Bigger than that size,less ammo to carry,if it can't handle, use ATGM instead!🔥
So they will get stabilized guns now? Neat, welcome to the 1980s.
40 years is not bad at all mate: two decades to think about it until the end of one century, and 20 years to get it done in the next century.
Guns were stabilised from mid WWII onwards....
Bruh, stabilized guns is already in use since WW2 with one of the first user is the M4 Sherman.
@@gigihsetiawanp62 Different kind of stabilization, and that only makes this vehicle look even worse.
Stabilization did not become standard until the 1980s, and as we see - even afterwards vehicles without stabilized guns exist.
@@rolandlee6898 But you only specify stabilized gun without adding more context to it, which means my comment is still right.
Windshield wipers exist because dust and dirt covers the cars windscreens aswell as wiper fluid helping.
It needs a bigger gun so it can be used as a medium build tank. Especially with the Ajax coming into service. You could even put another 10-15 ton to it's weight and give it more armour, with a fixe TOW system attached. The Warrior would make much more sense to me then. A fast, agyle medium tank able to cross distance at pace and still pack a punch.
I agree about the chain gun. Put the gat from the A-10 on the warrior. That would be smashing ehh?
The gun off an A10 is bigger than a warrior. But the idea is good. Make it for fitment to a challenger chassis with a turret of it's own. Self loading with gyro stabilization, night vision. That would be our " Terminator" like the Russian unit
Mat i thought MOD had stopped this upgrade?
Mechanically, what were the main failure points on the vehicle in terms of maintenance?
I saw this close up at TankFest 2019
Last time I checked everything in the BAF needs to be upgraded in some way but luckily we are getting close to being a more modern country prepared for fighting other modern country’s and toyotas
Heard the upgrade programme might be getting scrapped due to costs, which is not surprising as it's been going on since 2011.
PLONK PLONK WANKER
Also love how they now got an coaxial mg again and its put so high on the turret it might aswell be ignored.
All what you have been saying has been part of the US Army Bradley and the US Marine LAV systems since their developments in the 1980s. That is the gun and weapons stabilization system has to be equal to any main battle tank. That means stabilization, thermal imaging, and proper bore sight procedures. The Blue Force Tracking System has been standard on all US vehicles since it's introduction in 2000. I had seen this at Ft. Irwin CA. It was implemented as part of Land Warrior by the 4th Infantry Division. It was tested during our simulated combat exercises against us the 11th ACR and it was successful. Almost.. The problem for the Blue Force was simulated combat. The 11th ACR as a Soviet style American trained force using Soviet Doctrine was able to smash Blue Force in simulated combat. Years later in Iraq and Afghanistan Land Warrior was successful against the real enemy because of the communication, satellite tracking system, and real time engagements. It saturated enemy positions with coordinated fire from integral units to continue an advance which have been equaled to Desert Storm but slower because of infantry combat. Technology of this sort will be commonplace in all future combat engagements. The only problem will be within the platoon, squad or section fight. I am sure the US Army is working on this. The Army is still working on how dependent they are in combat on the infantry squad engaged in combat and putting the whole big picture to the entire operational scope of the battle before them. This is nothing new. The concept has been around for a long time. The only reason why they are implementing them is because of funding. If the Army was sustaining more casualties then this system would have been in place back then instead of now. The US Army is still developing from this existing technology as of now. Fucking surprises me because I came from the 1980s Army Infantry and fought in Iraq. I was able to see the technology and use it for locating my unit's position to get supplies and reinforcement in combat. I always know I can't rely on technology to navigate and get shit done. I always taught my soldiers to go retrograde when all systems fail in combat. Move, Shoot, Communicate, is the Infantry way of combat.
Sick tank
But why would a camera be any more susceptible to dust than a pariscope?
It might focus on the dust on the lens, not on the dude with the rpg, whereas the mk1 eyeball can look past specs of dust to see him
Also periscopes have wipers on.
Cameras and tv screens inside are a distraction.
@tvercetti1 what does SMH mean.
@tvercetti1 Yes, they are.
@tvercetti1 Thanks for agreeing with me. You know it makes sense!
CV9040 forever
Helt rätt
Should've contracted with Bofors for the whole thing: would have had a better gun that would have a longer service life, in a better turret & other system improvements, for half the price, and vehicles would already be being upgraded.
Can't wait to see this in Steel Beasts.
let the 40' bang
How many troops will it be able to carry? Has it had to sacrifice what it was intended to do which was be a troop carrier, so it can have a bigger gun? Bigger gun means bigger turret right? So where does the more space come from?
Can't you put wipers on a camera as is done on automobile windshields?