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the original "Matsimus Music" of the Roman soldier walking through a battlefield was far, far better in every way, please bring it back, or at least run a poll to find out what your viewers want to see/hear. Just my thoughts and suggestions.
I served on the CV9040B in the Swedish Army. We managed to get positive kill ratios versus the Leopard MBT, Stridsvagn 122 due to the superior mobility of the CV90. We hid in a dense marshland and turned of the engines, let the Leopards take the field past us and then we came out from the cover of the impenetrable marshes (MBTs cant go through without getting stuck instantly). All the MBTs where taken out with armor piercing 40 mm auto cannon rounds and anti tank rockets to the rear, we lost 0 units, they lost everything. Mobility is king in mechanised warfare.
I guess the tanks had no recce going ahead of them, sounds like a set up to lose/win for your side. Real theatre vs. training exercise is such a scam. No comparison between the two........just saying.
@@beerthug It's not meant to be realistic to an operation. It's just tank to tank combat exercise. We do the same as well and the scam is not exactly the word for these exercises. It's meant to get the crew ongoing and aware of the weakness and strengths of their vehicle. Not to mention that the CV90 was simply a very, very powerful machine for its size.
@@beerthug Like Benlex said it is not always full operation scenarios being played out. MBTs and CVs are based on the same regiments and fight in the same battalions in the Swedish military so in day to day training you play vs eachother for the reason Benlex said and just to get quality time in the vehicles and train cohesion in your platoon or company etc.
It is definitely a situation in which your vehicle was almost designed to succeed. Having said this, it is good for all tank crew to get bogged and recognise the limits of their machines. While serving in the Australian Army, we once had our entire troop of tanks bogged. Mine got bogged, as did the one that came to pull us out. As did the third tank of our three tank troop. We had to subtlety call the recovery vehicle all while pretending to the squadron commander that all was fine and we were where we were supposed to be. The promise of a few slabs of beer assured their silence, as per well established Australian Tradition! :-) Having said this, 1st Armoured Regiment used lighter weight APCs and even trail bikes in the recon roll, for precisely the reasons that you state. Not sure what current doctrine, or vehicles are.
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I remember in 1997, when we first got the stabilizers on our swedish CV90’s. -Wow, we can fire on the move now?! This vehicle has come a long way since.
I was there it was only 2 axis stabilization ! But we got "Verkanspaketet" which was sort of a beta version of what became the Strv9040A the A version has three axis stabilization but i think we got everything else that it had. We also saw a secret version with bolt on armor that looked a lot to what was fitted to the Norwegian version but on a Swedish CV9040, it was pretty cool. It was a prototype and nothing like the armour scheme that ended up on the CV9040C
I recall being a young swedish conscript in the military back in -99 in Falun (I13). I was doing my manditory 10 month stint to become a seargent in the swedish army. We were doing wargames in the winter where we were to protect a small pathway thru a pinetree forest in the middle of Sweden. We had placed mines and had dug down in the 1,5 meter deep snow on top of a ridge with our sleeping mats made out of rubberfoam to conceal our heat profile to the CV90 that was incoming. We were armed with KSP58:s and AT4:s and were supposed to wait for the tracks of the CV90 to either stop fairly close or even better to be blown up by our tank mines before we were supposed to pop-up and eliminate our target. We just heard to CV90 coming towards us and it suddenly stopped quite far from where we were supposed to engage it. A minute later the wargame officer yelled out the we were dead. The CV90 had spotted our heatprofiles even tho we all were pushing our faces into the cold snow not to reveal the heat from our breaths, that was scary and impressive!
Then you schould try the Volvo 240, it was made of castiron and malice. And would have worked as an armoured reserv if the russians invadead during the cold war. it was indestructible, just weld a gun on top and it was ready to go.
Agreed, I 100% drove a 1970s 240 in the 1990s and I can attend to the mechanical reliability of the Swedish box system! Eventually the metal termites and salted roads got the floorboards to the point where repairs were no longer cost effective but honestly I think I would just fix it and keep it if I had it to do over again lol.
There was a really good article in the Canadian Army Journal a few years ago, about the mech Inf battalion in ref to how its built. We truly lack a solid platform to have a fully functional mechanized force. The CV90 with the assorted turrets, would've been able to fill all the roles. IFV, Anti Tank, DFS, Mortars, Anti Air. Its too bad the army by-passed the CV90 years ago.
Time to revisit that decision. Look at how much Australia is investing in refreshing its armour fleet from new versions of the Abrams, to tracked howitzers and a decision soon on winner of the IFV competition. Canadian Army should acquire CV90s for a bn each in the three RegF infantry regiments. Ohh, add wheeled MRLS and howitzers (Ceasar or Archer) for select ResF units (the idea is to designate div level assets).
@@sierravortec2494 Canada has a moderately small military budget that I believe sees budget cuts fairly often. There's no way Canada could afford to outfit their military with this very expensive IFV. Most countries only have 50-150 of them, anyway. To replace all IFVs / APCs / all other "flavors" this comes with would be at a staggering cost.
@@jacktoy3032 Because Australia is next to a enemie super power, while Canada is not, Canada does peacekeeping missions more then going to people's business, let alone starting the conflict.
Anti-Aircraft system in it by Saab. BAE Systems fitted a CV90 with an active damping suspension system derived from Formula One racing cars. This technology calculates the vehicle's speed and anticipates the terrain ahead, then pressurizes the suspension at independent points to lift the chassis and keep the vehicle level. The suspension, which had been modified to suit a 38-ton armored vehicle rather than the 700 kg (1,500 lb) racing car, reportedly increases speed by 30-40 percent on rough terrain, outrunning main battle tanks, decreases vehicle pitch acceleration by 40 percent, gives greater maneuverability and stability for on-the-move gunnery, and reduces crew fatigue and life-cycle costs. Latest cost posted $4.7 million U.S.
That sounds a bit like sci-fi. But when you see what a system like that can do it suddenly becomes very real.. Would really like this on the commercial trucks.. ua-cam.com/video/3KPYIaks1UY/v-deo.html
I served as a Strf9040 driver in the Swedish Army and I gotta say it was a incredibly fun and easy vehicle to work with. Its also very manueverable and the 40mm canon is great to work with. Maintainance wise it is good aswell since I never had any major issue during excercises.
@@ravener96 The swedish 40mm version uses a kind of magazine system. There are three magazines with eight rounds each. Usually you only fire semi automaticly but you can also use 4- or 8-round bursts. The system has both pros and cons. It is a fast system that is very easy to top of or change ammo-type and it provides more than enough ammo for an engagement across a platoon of ifvs. However the amount of ready to use ammo could be bigger and the gun itself is huge.
@@Frauenman thats actually pretty bad. the cv9030 version can essentially hold down the trigger for hundreds of rounds. having to manually reload after just 24 rounds is pretty bad
@@ravener96 Then again when a 30mm autocanon needs to be reloaded it takes a lot of time while the 40mm bofors in the cv 9040 can be topped off continously in a very quick and easy way. The ammunition itself is also huge compared to 30mm bushmaster and thus packs a lot more punch. I guess you could say it's a choise between instant vs countinous firepower. While I would say that the bofors gun is less than ideal for an ifv today, back when the vehicle was designed it was the only 40mm available and also already in heavy use in Sweden. I would also argue that the size of the gun is a more severe drawback than the amount of ammo in the magazines.
@@Frauenman i'd rather spend ten minutes feeding a belt in cover than fuss around with ammo in combat. the magazine is also pretty large so chances are you wont run out, but you almost certainly fire more than 24 rounds in any serious firefight.
Honestly I feel we should have ditched Ajax years ago. The development costs alone probably cover the lifetime running costs for a fleet of these vehicles. It’s extremely versatile and could be made to fit multiple roles with streamlined maintenance and logistics behind it for spares etc instead of numerous bespoke platforms.
yeah, the british army should just cut their losses and get this, it's a mature platform that would allow us to share logistics with more of our allies. and also wouldn't giver british tankers tinnitus.
Proven, modular (normally a key selling point today), well protected, high quality, good fire power, small but workable size... Nahhhh we want an over sized, underpowered, semi modular vehicle that can't even be built to the same specifications just because it's built by BAE... Even though it's inherently Spanish...
I served in a CV9030 CH as driver and then commander, i totally agree with Mat, it's the best vehicle out there. There are some improvement points to be done, but with what i saw with the Mk4, they seem to be adressed, like the commander thermal sight and rubber tracks. I once drove one for 12h, and yes i was weary, but it is feasable.
@@Redbanano we had to change the rubber pad on tracks every month, we had to remove the track to do it quickely so i dont think metal tracks are so much better. And with rubber pad we had few control om ice without the metal ice pad we could install.
@@thibaudtardin9100 I have no experience with metal tracks, you have som good points and i guess there are even more good points as to why we only use rubber tracks now :) They are not perfect, but they are still good
I served on this beast in the norwegian army as an infantryman. I absolutly loved this thing, the smooth ride we had through dense forest had me catching up on sleep in the back, and the sgt would wake me for clearance manouvers. then only to get back in it to have a nap while racing through rough terrain. crazy really...
Matsimus this is the kind of informational video that you Excel at making. This is old school Mat. Love it. It's not something I had thought about particularly. But I can totally see how being able to put your fighting vehicles on a train would be extremely useful.
Here's the thing about protection against ATGM. No practical amount of armor of different types that can be mounted on IFV will make you ATGM proof. It may make you resilient against earlier generation man portable RPGs but that's it. So going with smaller profile, cheaper price and lower weight is a correct move (as long as frontal area can protect against other IFVs)
I greatly admire this platform, I served in the British army intially in a tank regiment (Chieftain) before moving on a to a recce regiment light armoured cars. Some time ago I had a job interview with General Dynamics where there were making components for Ajax and I was given a tour. I commented that Ajax was far to big for it's proposed recce role as your job is to see and not be seen and Ajax made this near impossible. Despite having a very good interview , my comments did me no good at all.
During "Iron Spear" we had a competition between MBT's and IFV's from different NATO BG... Without surprise, Leo2A6 and CV9035 owned the competition...
Sorry folks but step aside Puma, Ajax, Warrior, Lynx, Bradley, BMP, Redback. The real OG is here. CV90 and I love it! Those who are triggered, good lol. Its an amazing vehicle and I love it! Fight me!! ;-) Thanks for watching everyone!! Have a wonderful day!
I guessing the countries that you think need this are Canada and Britain. America to but that won't happen. Have they ever adopted a peice of Armour that wasn't developed for them? I don't know much about Stryker. Yeah if someone who knows could answer that.
I served with the gen 2's Such an awesome platform. One thing you didn't mention is how freaking silent it is when advancing, all sound is pushed to the rear. Makes it great at sneaking up on things.
I was a squad leader for a group of CV90. 3 of them came to our platoon for testing, ie the first CV90's produced and ready for field action. Our platoon was that first test. Great IFV. Except for I almost got my arm cut off during a battle simulation. Cool story bro note: My group won the company battle competetion. Still got the reward lying somwhere (kings cufflinks).
My only complaint of the vehicle, as a gunner when I served in the Finnish Defense Forces in 06-07, was that you couldn't switch between the main cannon and the mg from the gunners controller. That switch was only on the gun control computer which was down between commander and gunner seats. I don't know if they have changed that in later models. You pretty much had to have your left hand on the GCC all the time. Made it a bit awkward and slow to switch between the two.
Not a problem anymore, served last year also as a gunner in the FDF. The FCS panel still has the same switch but there is also a new one on the gunners handle. Would be interesting to hear what kind of other improvements have been made over the years.
The CV90 is the ultimate. I saw that when they released the Mark 1, so long ago. It's just a good, solid, combat vehicle. It's not as cheap as someone like Rosoboron, but you're getting what you pay for: how much value do you place on your troops' lives and mission success? And I say this as a rabid Piranha/LAV-series supporter: . . . . . . . . . .......Buy the CV90, if you can.
Nice to see the cv90 again. I did calculations and development on the vehicle many years ago now. DAS for example. It was a blast sitting in the turret and verifying the system while driving down a terrain obstacle course. These are great machines and suprisingly comfortable!
I can imagine a IFV, with a tethered drone it could send aloft to survey the battle field, laser designate and provide communication. The dismounts would remain inside with controllers and screens. They would be operating something like a 4 wheeler with a M249 turret or a airborne drone with a lighter weapon system. In a future conflict, the side with the better gamers has the edge.
Australia didn’t pick it for Land 400, based on cost. A hybrid drive in an armoured vehicle makes so much sense. Two reasons. The way they “bound”, providing cover for each other is hugely intensive on their drivetrains and fuel consumption. If some of the energy could be captured during breaking and redeployed on acceleration, I believe it would extend their range and take the load off their engines. The second reason is silent movement into FUPs or close target recce. We really missed a trick not selecting these incredible, mature designs
Not really about the cost but the operational range I believe. CV90 has an operational range of 320km, while both the Lynx and Redback have an operational range of 500km.
It reminds me of the US 113 APC varieties and updates 113 A1, A2, A3 Taken a proven track and increase the Survival and Lethality and constantly improving on what works. Same with the M1 Abrams I’m a Desert Storm Vet 1991 and when I first started my understanding of the Cold War was before the fall of the wall. Same lessons learned in that Era still apply today. The Military Industrial Complex is a necessary evil. The billions of dollars spent annually, help to keep our children free for Now, from lets just say Megalomaniacs... Back in the 90’s I was a Mechanic with DS Maintenance Unit of the MIARNG, while at “Summer Camp” I was afforded the opportunity to help Diagnose an Engine problem, on a LAV-25. It was preforming as Op4 for our “camping trip“ with a Canadian fella who was the driver and GM Canada Military program guy as the lead (I was kinda just a Happy Gofer with all the Tools, I had the Contact Truck as a Heavy Construction Equipment Repairer) I still remember Mick and the best day of wrenching on a new Toy ever! The unfortunate part was that due to the loss of compression in one Cylinder as we found out in the Diagnosis the Big wigs called for the transport to pick it up and tow it home! The vary Fact that it stayed under its own power despite its own internal damage and was able to “Limp home” is what impressed me the most. In the the Desert I was doing BDAR and if any engine was shot up or internally fragged it was not an option. This experience with the LAV blew my mind and my life for ever since. I can’t tell you how impressed with that system I was. Truly a Modular system, in ways that made even damaged LAV’s much more capable, and survival of the vehicle and the crew that just couldn’t be matched at the time. Thanks again for your content! I also have great Respect for the rest of the Youngsters carrying our Torch on to the next generation! I realize that today’s Military personnel may not have to be as Expendable as I once was in the Fulda Gap, but the best kept peaceful place to be is in the military, until it’s NOT! Then it’s time to do the job and forget about everything else for a while until you are Relieved or given your own last breath for your higher purpose, if that’s for Freedoms of others or your Comrades in Arms! RESPECT’ and SALUTE’ to all!!!
I've always thought the CV-90 series to be far and away the best IFV on the planet. Also, when up gunned with either the 105mm L7/M68 or the in house 120mm long gun. It makes for quite the deadly and mobile light tank with high interchangeable parts with its IFV cousin.
Slovakia just bought 150 of these over the Lynx and Ascod. It also looks like Czech are also going to decide for CV90 getting their 200+ soon. Quite happy for the choice svk made here
well, that was likely not due to the performence but due to unit price and procurement time. Lynx would be produced locally, but with 10-12m€ a piece it is quite expensive and procurement would take 3-4 years, because the production facilities in Hungary are booked out for the next few years and building a new one in Czech Republik or Slovakia will take some time. In the comparative tests, Lynx had shown significantly better performence than CV90 in many areas (its just a more modern and more advanced platform, but thats expensive....) As comparison: the Puma IFV of the Bundeswehr has a procurement Price of 17m€ per vehicle. Marder IFV of the Bundeswehr had a inflation adjusted procurement price of 385.000€ per vehicle in 1971, modernised versions delivered to Jordan varied between 660.000€ and 890.000€ per vehicle in 2016-2019. Marder is pretty dated by now and does not incorporate basicly any high tech. Thats why its very cheap in comparison to modern state of the art systems.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 If you read the Slovak MOD evaluation report, the Lynx was the worst in techical and capability trials. It scored highest only in deliveries and maintenance categories. So pretty much the exact opposite of what you assume here. ASCOD was best in logistics category. Unit cost for offered variant was 1,9m€ for both CV90 and ASCOD and 2,3m€ for Lynx. In the end Lynx was the worst and the most expensive. Overall relative score results as per Slovak MOD: 1. CV9030: 99,67% 2. CV9035: 97,76% 3. ASCOD: 92,8% 4. Lynx: 90,20 % CV9035 was chosen in the end despite finishing second, as the 35mm canon was deemed more future proof
@@HalloN1989 CV90-30, CV90-35, ASCOD none have active armor, KF41 has active armor (javelin, nlaw, RPG... are ineffective against it), and even without active armor, the strongest armor is on it (stanag6)
That 40mm gun is in principle an upside down upgraded Bofors 40mm AA gun... like those US and many others used during WWII and still are in service in some countries until today.
@@nissetorvang1709 Yeah, pretty sure it literally IS the same 40mm L70 gun of WW2 fame, just adapted to fit in that turret with an autoloader and fire control system etc.
@@nudgeunit No, the WWII 40mm gun were a L60 , 60 calibers barrel length known as lvakan m/36 in Swedish service. 9040 reuse the gun from 40mm lvakan m/48 which where an upgraded version with longer barrel, higher rate of fire and electric motors for moving the gun. The gun are turned upside down in the cv9040 and 3x8 magazine is attached.
I think they’ve got the right idea by using one platform to carry a myriad of different weapons systems. It’s kinda like what the Russians said they were going to do with the T-14 Armata platform.
You make it sound like the development of Japanese cars that sucked when they first came out but with feedback from the customers their engineering continuously improves them until they are now high quality vehicles. I like the open source programming that are easy to up-grade and data sharing. It would be even better if they placed their electronics on boards rather than hard wiring them together. I don't know how their hardware is made but even if electronic boards are heavier; upgrading the electronic hardware and repairs of the system are greatly simplified. The Cv90 family has a common mechanical chasis, diesel engines, not fuel guzzling gas turbines, and lower weight than comparable platforms. All of this reduces the transportation and logistics trail to the battlefield. You can transport such a tank more easily by cargo planes or ships for rapid deployment. In my opinion these are especially great vehicles for smaller militaries such as Canada's, Poland's, or the Czech's. I agree that this vehicle definitely fills a very strategic role in modern militaries. I like it and other Scandanavian military equipment.
I know from an event where American Bradley's were here in Norway they tended to dig their hull into the snow and get stuck while the CV90 hull floats on top of the snow and thus has excellent mobility on snow
this is not true. the CV90 now weighs 37 Tonnes. 10 Tonnes more than the Bradley. Now the CV90 will get stuck while the Bradley has remained light at 27 Tonnes.
Not gonna lie, i wish Esercito Italiano choose the CV90 (even in the 40mm configuration) for replace our dated VCC Dardo... The CV it's really an impressive machine😍
That thing would be pretty damn effective in a mechanized brigade group, but if you are thinking Canada we will probably end up with some low mileage cast-off Marder 1's, that we can rebuild from the tracks up for ten years before they are in service, but maybe I am just cynical.
@@tomriley5790 CV90mk IV, LAV 700 50MM ,LEOPARD 2A7 V ,BVS10, HIMARS, AH1Z COBRA,as you procure it send the old stuff to Ukraine 1 for 1 until the current vehicles are replaced
you're the best Matsumus! I learn so much not just about the vehicles and equiptment, but as a military logictics hobbyist who has never has the honor of serving I also learn so much more about about the real world applications. I feel your videos offer people like myself teh closest thing to what a real world view of opperating this stuff is like and a whole new appreciation for what it means to serve.
The CV90 got its basic functional requirements and design trade-offs right from its beginning -. It didn't try to be all things to everyone or deliver outrageous capabilities (i.e. fully submersible to 100 feet and a 160 kph top road speed). Like other fundamentally sound designs, (M2-HB, Burke class destroyer, etc) it is adaptable and upgrade able, allowing the sound initial design to incorporate advances in technology and armament as they mature.
Somehow after handling a Mora knife, I'm not surprised at all to hear how good modern Swedish weapons are. Also, it's funny how the rail networks are still so relevant in today's wars. Designing the CV90 to fit on a train is a smart move.
@@petterteignesse5486 the reason for going with the 30 is because its fits the norwegian battlefield better. And you can carry with you alot more ammo 👍🏻
100% agree with you on this. I have the exact same opinion. Add in the latest variants of the Leopard2A7(?). Including it's support vehicles like engineer and recovery versions. The A2Panzerhaubitz2000 155mm -> however that is spelled. Use the same A2PZR2000(?) 155mm platform for your MLRS. VikingMK2. Armoured vehicle fleet basically sorted. Invest your R&D money into modifying those chassis for your different role requirements instead of pissing away your $ trying to re-invent the wheel.
i served on the cv9035mkIIIDK and what a vehicle.. specially down south "afghanistan".. it was very well used.. which i was on the first tour with it deployed.. worked like a dream
One of the biggest criticisms I've read about the CV90 platform is its cost. However, I haven't read any material that suggests that its competitors offer substantial savings. Equally important is the infrastructure necessary to maintain a high level of operational utilization, which is often overlooked but remains an essential factor in deployment availability. I would really like to see a more detailed comparison of this vehicle to its near-peers (Puma & Redback) to put the issue of "cost" into more perspective. Great video, thx! 🖖
Don't know about purchase cost. But in terms of operating costs it's one of the cheapest out there, especially designed for easy maintenance by unskilled conscripts.
@@SwedishVilsten Interesting! If the operating costs are reasonable, then the platform represents good value for any reasonable procurement program. The US in particular has spent boku money buying fancy hardware across all of its branches (some with unproven technologies) that has generally failed to deliver on the cliched promises of "off-the-shelf components", "fully integrated systems management" and "reduced personnel requirements" in the timeframe originally designed. I suspect that each individual system will work just fine once the bugs are worked out and the logistical/training support is refined- but at the cost of wasted money, effort and time. Isn't it better to license a fully functioning platform, adapted for a specific country's needs, than reinvent the wheel? 🤷🏻♀️
The best out there right now for sure. Denmark is upgrading its CV9035 MK3 to MK4. Including the Spike LR2 missiles, which will also be used on other platforms and with dismounts. And.. The users with 35mm Bushmaster lll will most likely upgrade to 50mm, since that's what USA is betting on for their replacement for Bradley. The upgrade is quite simple.. A new barrel more or less 🤷♂️ The advantages is not just more lethality but also more affordable ammunition. Since USA need so much. The production volume on 35mm is very low, making it expensive.
In 2014 some Danish CV 90's were excercising in Hungary...And a bunch ended up in repair tents due to the transmission overheating on our hills..They said it was the fault of the drivers 'cause they weren't used to driving on hills...whatever was the real reason, its kinda interesting.
Sounds like a resonable explanation, considering i never heard of that being an issue for the Norwegians. Not many places have more hills then Norway, so if it was mainly a design issue, they should have noticed.
The tallest 'mountain' in Denmark is 147 meters tall. The country is just about completely flat, its very plausible that they Danish drivers werent used to driving up hills
@@Redbanano To be fair to the drivers, I suspect it can be a thing that is hard to train if one lack the terrain to train in. A bit like training for artic warfare in a place without snow, it is hard to have people remember procedures if they never experience what the procedures are for.
This vehicle is a beast. My best friend did a stint as a SF90 infantryman. One of the first exercise runs was to just go, flat out, in terrain. His organs where not in the original places after that little ride.
My friend was lucky enough to serve o the CV-9040 AA vehicle while I was just an infantry pleb. Though I've been lucky enough to get up close and feel and squeeze on a few of these. That new crazy camo scheme looks cool and I love the new additions of the new variants. Great video!
540 of them beasts is working at the Swedish armed forces....and they are the best of IFV - love the new stuff coming up in short regarding this loving lady
Hi Matsimus, Another excellent video! I feel that the CV90 Mk 4 and it’s variants should have been selected to replace Worrior in its IFV role, as well as the armoured scout reconnaissance role that Ajax is supposed to be filling for the British Army, especially now with the Challenger 3 Upgrade being procured. I feel that with the current known specifications, capabilities and “problems”! with the Ajax programme there was a distinct lack of a properly defined mission set and specifications to meet it. As from what is known, it doesn’t fulfil the Infantry carrying capacity to replace Worrior in the Tracked IFV role to support the Challenger 3 MBT capability.
great vid, i served on the cv9040. it is very good in terrain and snow. All the other ifv tested couldnt keep up at all in the international tests done. So it really works when its tough and hard.
The other members of the CV90 family like the CV90120 tank killer with huge 120mm gun get a lot of attention, but I would be very interested to hear your opinion of the impact on battalion tactics of a system like the CV90 Mjölner firing 120mm HE and especially HEAT rounds tipped with the M395 GPS precision guided kit with a CEP in operations of 3-4m (10m is the requirement) or similar versions of the Israeli Elbit "Iron Sting" which has GPS for a similar CEP and a semi-active laser seeker which has a CEP of less than 1m when using its laser seeker that is capable of hitting a moving target. While such systems make individual rounds 6 or more times as expensive as unguided rounds, the vastly improved CEP allows the total number of rounds required to destroy a given small area target (a command post, an ammo cache or an armored vehicle) would be such that using these precision guided shell might not be any more expensive per fire mission by allowing 1-2 round kills rather than 6-12. This also greatly reduces the logistic tail, which has its own cost savings. Then, since the number of shells that can be carried is fixed, using 1-2 rounds be fire mission rather than 6-12 means many more targets can be successfully engaged before having to reload. And lastly combined with a mortar carrier like the Mjölner rather than towed mortars the survivability is greatly enhanced since there is no set up and tear down time, nor is there a need to stay stationary long enough to fire adjustment rounds to correct the aim and then fire a number of rounds for effect if using unguided rounds. Instead a mortar carrier like the Mjölner firing guided shells can have the target coordinates already programmed into the fire control computer, stop and get the exact launch point and do final aiming adjustments, fire and then immediately start moving again with confidence that the target will be destroyed. With the addition of forward observers, or most likely drones with a laser designator, 120mm rounds HEAT could land with a CEP smaller than the top of an APC/IFV or tank. As such there would be no need to get within visual range of a tank to kill it like the CV90120 would with its big gun where the CV90120 is in even more danger than the tank it is targeting since if it can see the tank, the tank can see them, and has just as big a gun and a lot thicker armor. Instead the Mjölner could remain safely beyond visual range of a tank and drop HEAT rounds onto it top.
Matsimus, let's start saving our loonies and get one or 2 CV-90s. You can have one for Alberta, and I will have one for Ontario, and together we can defend Canada!
Great film Mat. Re GPUs, they're used primarily because they're fast and 'off the shelf'. Yes they also provide good graphical capability (your smartphone analogy) but that's not primary, as the GUI demands are pretty low. It's also why they're used for bitcoin mining: Fast and easily integrated
@@jackburton9035 the cv90 is developed by Alvis Vickers Subsidiary Hägglund, wich only moved over into BAE Subsidiary after BAE bought up Vickers. The integration of Vickers happened in 2005-2007, way past the developement and start of production of CV90. but some other examples: Cr3 is more or less a Rheinmetall product, as Rheinmetall owns the majority share (51%)of Rheinmetall-BAE Systems Land, wiich upgrades and produces the Cr3. And the upgrades, new turret etc are designed by Rheinmetall. GTK Boxer? Produced by KMW and Rheinmetall and their subsidiary in the Netherlands. BAE dropped out in the early 2000´s to fail at their own project, now buying the Boxer. SA80 assault rifle. Total failure until H&K fixed it for you etc.
@@jackburton9035 no shit sherlok. and Hägglund + Bofors were producing CV90 from the early 90s, more than 15 years prior to BAE aquiring them. BAE is just managing Hägglunds and Bofors marketing and decorates itself with their laurels. and Alvis-Vickers only bought Hägglund in the late 90´s themselves,, Bofors was bought by UDI in the late 90s, so there was no british involvement there.
Hi Mat, congratulations, this is one of your best examples how a video should be composed. This is one of the few fighting vehicles that I would trust with my life. If this vehicle can cope with the terrain above the Artic Circle (as we experienced in Norway and Canada) and have been proved in the dust of Afghanistan it’s the one we should buy. But, since when have we soldiers had any say that the government accountant’s could not trump with their Treasury reasoning?! You have picked up a good point in transporting these vehicles to their kicking off point. Thanks again. Cheers mate. Harera
@@SonsOfLorgar Hi, to be sure the A/C is a great improvement especially these days when you can get them to blow cold or warm filtered air. But, you have to take into consideration that us Old Soldiers considered “Punkah wallahs” a luxury! Cheers mate. Harera
@@beerthug Hi, I am not sure of how much knowledge you have of the British Army, but the use of “Punkah Wallah” is the Hindi word for a man that is employed to manually move the air in a room to keep the occupant’s cool, this was before the use of electric fans etc.The British use a lot of Hindi and Urdu and Arabic words mixed into their daily speech. For example, the word you yourself use e.g. thug, is a Hindu word meaning “a violent person, especially a criminal or a bandit”. Makes you think, aye?! Cheers mate. Harera
I like something modular. If I had a country, I would have definitely purchase the auto cannon, something for infantry and IFV destoryer. The CV-90 has a big future ahead.
All these vehicles have a great platform to work from and look at on how to improve. That would be the STRYKER which has been made for over 20 years now. It has 10 different armament modules and keeps getting upgraded. I have always been torn between tires and tracks on these vehicles. It's obvious that each has it's advantages but I feel tires has more of them. Tracks biggest would be mud and soft snow. The tires actually do pretty well on snow if driven right and tires aired down properly
The British military should just adopt these instead of fluffing about with the AJAX. How they haven't just adopted the CV90 already and chose a convoluted development program with the ASCOD is quite simply bureaucratic ineptitude.
ngl, but it's mesmerizing how bad the Ajax project has been on tests. british engineers have the tradition of designing some good machinery. what the hell happened there
Yeah the CV90 is awesome and got the pleasure to drive it while on exercise in Latvia it is a fantastic unit also love the power-pack it the best engine in the world scania V8 ds14 I know there good because I own 2 r650 tractor units
CV-90 is simply the best, with all the issues with competitors in the US IFV competition it is criminal a decision on picking the CV-90 has not already been made, we are on the verge of WW3 and they are still effing around.
Canada should have gotten off of our duffs and purchased the CV-90! Sweden and Canada share a similar climate, and something built for the Swedish terrain and climate would also fit into a Canadian operational envelope. Yes, The LAV-6 is great, but come on, the CV-90 would eat a LAV's lunch and still come back for the dessert too!
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I'm curious about one thing. On the CV90, why tracks and not wheels?
the original "Matsimus Music" of the Roman soldier walking through a battlefield was far, far better in every way, please bring it back, or at least run a poll to find out what your viewers want to see/hear. Just my thoughts and suggestions.
Would you prefer the CV90 over the LAV700 ?
The very first CV90 was fielded in 1993 with the Swedish army.
A family of five variants.
I served on the CV9040B in the Swedish Army. We managed to get positive kill ratios versus the Leopard MBT, Stridsvagn 122 due to the superior mobility of the CV90. We hid in a dense marshland and turned of the engines, let the Leopards take the field past us and then we came out from the cover of the impenetrable marshes (MBTs cant go through without getting stuck instantly). All the MBTs where taken out with armor piercing 40 mm auto cannon rounds and anti tank rockets to the rear, we lost 0 units, they lost everything. Mobility is king in mechanised warfare.
I guess the tanks had no recce going ahead of them, sounds like a set up to lose/win for your side. Real theatre vs. training exercise is such a scam. No comparison between the two........just saying.
@@beerthug It's not meant to be realistic to an operation. It's just tank to tank combat exercise. We do the same as well and the scam is not exactly the word for these exercises. It's meant to get the crew ongoing and aware of the weakness and strengths of their vehicle. Not to mention that the CV90 was simply a very, very powerful machine for its size.
@@beerthug If I recall correctly there are reconnaissance units that consist of MBT (or just have some, don't remember). I think it is in US Army
@@beerthug Like Benlex said it is not always full operation scenarios being played out. MBTs and CVs are based on the same regiments and fight in the same battalions in the Swedish military so in day to day training you play vs eachother for the reason Benlex said and just to get quality time in the vehicles and train cohesion in your platoon or company etc.
It is definitely a situation in which your vehicle was almost designed to succeed.
Having said this, it is good for all tank crew to get bogged and recognise the limits of their machines.
While serving in the Australian Army, we once had our entire troop of tanks bogged. Mine got bogged, as did the one that came to pull us out. As did the third tank of our three tank troop.
We had to subtlety call the recovery vehicle all while pretending to the squadron commander that all was fine and we were where we were supposed to be.
The promise of a few slabs of beer assured their silence, as per well established Australian Tradition! :-)
Having said this, 1st Armoured Regiment used lighter weight APCs and even trail bikes in the recon roll, for precisely the reasons that you state. Not sure what current doctrine, or vehicles are.
I remember in 1997, when we first got the stabilizers on our swedish CV90’s. -Wow, we can fire on the move now?!
This vehicle has come a long way since.
I was there it was only 2 axis stabilization !
But we got "Verkanspaketet" which was sort of a beta version of what became the Strv9040A the A version has three axis stabilization but i think we got everything else that it had.
We also saw a secret version with bolt on armor that looked a lot to what was fitted to the Norwegian version but on a Swedish CV9040, it was pretty cool.
It was a prototype and nothing like the armour scheme that ended up on the CV9040C
@@AdurianJ 3 axis stabilization? Elaborate
That must have been the reason Puolustusvoimat got the different 30mm bushmaster turret at that time. CV9030FIN
Wow I didn't realize these were made that long. All of these IFVs have advanced nicely well except for the Russians BTR lol
@@larshenrik8900in case you still don’t know a year later, I’m pretty sure it means that the pitch roll and yaw are all stabilised
I recall being a young swedish conscript in the military back in -99 in Falun (I13). I was doing my manditory 10 month stint to become a seargent in the swedish army. We were doing wargames in the winter where we were to protect a small pathway thru a pinetree forest in the middle of Sweden. We had placed mines and had dug down in the 1,5 meter deep snow on top of a ridge with our sleeping mats made out of rubberfoam to conceal our heat profile to the CV90 that was incoming. We were armed with KSP58:s and AT4:s and were supposed to wait for the tracks of the CV90 to either stop fairly close or even better to be blown up by our tank mines before we were supposed to pop-up and eliminate our target. We just heard to CV90 coming towards us and it suddenly stopped quite far from where we were supposed to engage it. A minute later the wargame officer yelled out the we were dead. The CV90 had spotted our heatprofiles even tho we all were pushing our faces into the cold snow not to reveal the heat from our breaths, that was scary and impressive!
Well if it's anything like the indestructible Volvo 850 my mom drove then I'd be impressed.
Then you schould try the Volvo 240, it was made of castiron and malice. And would have worked as an armoured reserv if the russians invadead during the cold war. it was indestructible, just weld a gun on top and it was ready to go.
Was/is your mum was a bad driver?
Well Volvo and the CV90 are both Swedish so that probably tells a lot😉🙂
Agreed, I 100% drove a 1970s 240 in the 1990s and I can attend to the mechanical reliability of the Swedish box system! Eventually the metal termites and salted roads got the floorboards to the point where repairs were no longer cost effective but honestly I think I would just fix it and keep it if I had it to do over again lol.
@@andries1238 as an american with a slight swedish bias when it comes to armored non-tank ground vehicles, so im going to have to agree.
I served on a CV90, and its really a awesome machine.
I served by sitting on back of CV90 in FDF, it really is
@@KoteDarasuum bollhavet
There was a really good article in the Canadian Army Journal a few years ago, about the mech Inf battalion in ref to how its built. We truly lack a solid platform to have a fully functional mechanized force. The CV90 with the assorted turrets, would've been able to fill all the roles. IFV, Anti Tank, DFS, Mortars, Anti Air.
Its too bad the army by-passed the CV90 years ago.
Time to revisit that decision. Look at how much Australia is investing in refreshing its armour fleet from new versions of the Abrams, to tracked howitzers and a decision soon on winner of the IFV competition.
Canadian Army should acquire CV90s for a bn each in the three RegF infantry regiments. Ohh, add wheeled MRLS and howitzers (Ceasar or Archer) for select ResF units (the idea is to designate div level assets).
We truly lack a lot as a military lol it’s hard to know where to begin
@@sierravortec2494 Canada has a moderately small military budget that I believe sees budget cuts fairly often. There's no way Canada could afford to outfit their military with this very expensive IFV. Most countries only have 50-150 of them, anyway. To replace all IFVs / APCs / all other "flavors" this comes with would be at a staggering cost.
@@jeffjensen8 we have 549 of them. Just saying..
@@jacktoy3032 Because Australia is next to a enemie super power, while Canada is not, Canada does peacekeeping missions more then going to people's business, let alone starting the conflict.
Anti-Aircraft system in it by Saab. BAE Systems fitted a CV90 with an active damping suspension system derived from Formula One racing cars. This technology calculates the vehicle's speed and anticipates the terrain ahead, then pressurizes the suspension at independent points to lift the chassis and keep the vehicle level. The suspension, which had been modified to suit a 38-ton armored vehicle rather than the 700 kg (1,500 lb) racing car, reportedly increases speed by 30-40 percent on rough terrain, outrunning main battle tanks, decreases vehicle pitch acceleration by 40 percent, gives greater maneuverability and stability for on-the-move gunnery, and reduces crew fatigue and life-cycle costs. Latest cost posted $4.7 million U.S.
Woah thats actually wild.
That's how you define new, creative ways to increase mobility. The vehicle knows what's coming up ahead. That's advanced.
The British Challenger tanks use hydro-pneumatic suspension, all the others like Leopard and Abrams still use torsion bar suspension.
That sounds a bit like sci-fi. But when you see what a system like that can do it suddenly becomes very real.. Would really like this on the commercial trucks..
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Imagine the russian IFV- drivers: "Dey chav e real stjeering-veel, not just stiks"!!
I served as a Strf9040 driver in the Swedish Army and I gotta say it was a incredibly fun and easy vehicle to work with. Its also very manueverable and the 40mm canon is great to work with. Maintainance wise it is good aswell since I never had any major issue during excercises.
Can i ask how the 40mm gun is loaded? Is it with those five round clips or does it have some sort of autoloader these days?
@@ravener96 The swedish 40mm version uses a kind of magazine system. There are three magazines with eight rounds each. Usually you only fire semi automaticly but you can also use 4- or 8-round bursts. The system has both pros and cons. It is a fast system that is very easy to top of or change ammo-type and it provides more than enough ammo for an engagement across a platoon of ifvs. However the amount of ready to use ammo could be bigger and the gun itself is huge.
@@Frauenman thats actually pretty bad. the cv9030 version can essentially hold down the trigger for hundreds of rounds. having to manually reload after just 24 rounds is pretty bad
@@ravener96 Then again when a 30mm autocanon needs to be reloaded it takes a lot of time while the 40mm bofors in the cv 9040 can be topped off continously in a very quick and easy way. The ammunition itself is also huge compared to 30mm bushmaster and thus packs a lot more punch. I guess you could say it's a choise between instant vs countinous firepower. While I would say that the bofors gun is less than ideal for an ifv today, back when the vehicle was designed it was the only 40mm available and also already in heavy use in Sweden. I would also argue that the size of the gun is a more severe drawback than the amount of ammo in the magazines.
@@Frauenman i'd rather spend ten minutes feeding a belt in cover than fuss around with ammo in combat. the magazine is also pretty large so chances are you wont run out, but you almost certainly fire more than 24 rounds in any serious firefight.
Having trained with them. It is amazing how quiet they are, and the way they just glide across the tarrain.
Honestly I feel we should have ditched Ajax years ago. The development costs alone probably cover the lifetime running costs for a fleet of these vehicles. It’s extremely versatile and could be made to fit multiple roles with streamlined maintenance and logistics behind it for spares etc instead of numerous bespoke platforms.
yeah, the british army should just cut their losses and get this, it's a mature platform that would allow us to share logistics with more of our allies. and also wouldn't giver british tankers tinnitus.
You're expecting common sense from the MOD????
Proven, modular (normally a key selling point today), well protected, high quality, good fire power, small but workable size...
Nahhhh we want an over sized, underpowered, semi modular vehicle that can't even be built to the same specifications just because it's built by BAE... Even though it's inherently Spanish...
@@rowanmaguire7890 Ajax is not an BAe project (General Dynamics Spain).
Agreed 100%! MOD would probably order a total fleet of fifty to ‘do more with less’ though 🤦🏾♂️☹️
I served in a CV9030 CH as driver and then commander, i totally agree with Mat, it's the best vehicle out there. There are some improvement points to be done, but with what i saw with the Mk4, they seem to be adressed, like the commander thermal sight and rubber tracks. I once drove one for 12h, and yes i was weary, but it is feasable.
Rubber tracks are good but they need to be replaced quite often and you have terrible grip on ice.
@@Redbanano we had to change the rubber pad on tracks every month, we had to remove the track to do it quickely so i dont think metal tracks are so much better. And with rubber pad we had few control om ice without the metal ice pad we could install.
@@thibaudtardin9100 I have no experience with metal tracks, you have som good points and i guess there are even more good points as to why we only use rubber tracks now :) They are not perfect, but they are still good
quand je dis "gren" vous dites ?
I served on this beast in the norwegian army as an infantryman. I absolutly loved this thing, the smooth ride we had through dense forest had me catching up on sleep in the back, and the sgt would wake me for clearance manouvers. then only to get back in it to have a nap while racing through rough terrain. crazy really...
Matsimus this is the kind of informational video that you Excel at making. This is old school Mat. Love it.
It's not something I had thought about particularly. But I can totally see how being able to put your fighting vehicles on a train would be extremely useful.
Here's the thing about protection against ATGM. No practical amount of armor of different types that can be mounted on IFV will make you ATGM proof. It may make you resilient against earlier generation man portable RPGs but that's it. So going with smaller profile, cheaper price and lower weight is a correct move (as long as frontal area can protect against other IFVs)
You got it. Though, apparently people really bought this sales pitch and don't want to hear that sort of real talk :p
no but an APS like trophy can go a long way.
@@paullomax4038 Indeed active protection systems are teh future.
I take it you are a military analyst and not just some youtube armchair expert.
You'll probably need a active hardkill system for that... a frankly we do not know how those system perform against modern ATGMs
I greatly admire this platform, I served in the British army intially in a tank regiment (Chieftain) before moving on a to a recce regiment light armoured cars. Some time ago I had
a job interview with General Dynamics where there were making components for Ajax and I was given a tour. I commented that Ajax was far to big for it's proposed recce role
as your job is to see and not be seen and Ajax made this near impossible. Despite having a very good interview , my comments did me no good at all.
During "Iron Spear" we had a competition between MBT's and IFV's from different NATO BG... Without surprise, Leo2A6 and CV9035 owned the competition...
Sorry folks but step aside Puma, Ajax, Warrior, Lynx, Bradley, BMP, Redback. The real OG is here. CV90 and I love it! Those who are triggered, good lol. Its an amazing vehicle and I love it! Fight me!! ;-) Thanks for watching everyone!! Have a wonderful day!
Canada typically missed the boat on the CV90 series they bought one Mark 3 and blew it up and bought more LAV's.
I love it because Norway uses it
Fight me = unsub, done.
@@bert26a the lav is a high quality and respectable ifv........but we did miss the boat on cv90
I guessing the countries that you think need this are Canada and Britain. America to but that won't happen. Have they ever adopted a peice of Armour that wasn't developed for them? I don't know much about Stryker. Yeah if someone who knows could answer that.
I served with the gen 2's
Such an awesome platform. One thing you didn't mention is how freaking silent it is when advancing, all sound is pushed to the rear. Makes it great at sneaking up on things.
I was a squad leader for a group of CV90. 3 of them came to our platoon for testing, ie the first CV90's produced and ready for field action. Our platoon was that first test. Great IFV. Except for I almost got my arm cut off during a battle simulation.
Cool story bro note: My group won the company battle competetion. Still got the reward lying somwhere (kings cufflinks).
Hey mat just saying I appreciate the work you put into the uploads! Cheers to the new year
My only complaint of the vehicle, as a gunner when I served in the Finnish Defense Forces in 06-07, was that you couldn't switch between the main cannon and the mg from the gunners controller. That switch was only on the gun control computer which was down between commander and gunner seats. I don't know if they have changed that in later models. You pretty much had to have your left hand on the GCC all the time. Made it a bit awkward and slow to switch between the two.
Not a problem anymore, served last year also as a gunner in the FDF. The FCS panel still has the same switch but there is also a new one on the gunners handle. Would be interesting to hear what kind of other improvements have been made over the years.
yeah that seems a bit silly - doesn't seem that it would be hard to fix though.
The CV90 is the ultimate. I saw that when they released the Mark 1, so long ago. It's just a good, solid, combat vehicle. It's not as cheap as someone like Rosoboron, but you're getting what you pay for: how much value do you place on your troops' lives and mission success? And I say this as a rabid Piranha/LAV-series supporter:
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Slovakia is buying 152x CV90 :) Finally (or Swedenly?) some upgrade from BMP-1 :D
Nice to see the cv90 again. I did calculations and development on the vehicle many years ago now. DAS for example.
It was a blast sitting in the turret and verifying the system while driving down a terrain obstacle course. These are great machines and suprisingly comfortable!
I can imagine a IFV, with a tethered drone it could send aloft to survey the battle field, laser designate and provide communication. The dismounts would remain inside with controllers and screens. They would be operating something like a 4 wheeler with a M249 turret or a airborne drone with a lighter weapon system. In a future conflict, the side with the better gamers has the edge.
I love the mortar armed version is named after Thor's hammer.
CV90 is a well-developed & mature platform.
The best ifv is „bwp borsuk”
Great work as always Matt!!!
Australia didn’t pick it for Land 400, based on cost.
A hybrid drive in an armoured vehicle makes so much sense. Two reasons. The way they “bound”, providing cover for each other is hugely intensive on their drivetrains and fuel consumption. If some of the energy could be captured during breaking and redeployed on acceleration, I believe it would extend their range and take the load off their engines.
The second reason is silent movement into FUPs or close target recce.
We really missed a trick not selecting these incredible, mature designs
Not really about the cost but the operational range I believe. CV90 has an operational range of 320km, while both the Lynx and Redback have an operational range of 500km.
It reminds me of the US 113 APC varieties and updates 113 A1, A2, A3
Taken a proven track and increase the Survival and Lethality and constantly improving on what works.
Same with the M1 Abrams I’m a Desert Storm Vet 1991 and when I first started my understanding of the Cold War was before the fall of the wall. Same lessons learned in that Era still apply today. The Military Industrial Complex is a necessary evil. The billions of dollars spent annually, help to keep our children free for Now, from lets just say Megalomaniacs...
Back in the 90’s I was a Mechanic with DS Maintenance Unit of the MIARNG, while at “Summer Camp” I was afforded the opportunity to help Diagnose an Engine problem, on a LAV-25. It was preforming as Op4 for our “camping trip“ with a Canadian fella who was the driver and GM Canada Military program guy as the lead (I was kinda just a Happy Gofer with all the Tools, I had the Contact Truck as a Heavy Construction Equipment Repairer) I still remember Mick and the best day of wrenching on a new Toy ever!
The unfortunate part was that due to the loss of compression in one Cylinder as we found out in the Diagnosis the Big wigs called for the transport to pick it up and tow it home! The vary Fact that it stayed under its own power despite its own internal damage and was able to “Limp home” is what impressed me the most. In the the Desert I was doing BDAR and if any engine was shot up or internally fragged it was not an option. This experience with the LAV blew my mind and my life for ever since. I can’t tell you how impressed with that system I was. Truly a Modular system, in ways that made even damaged LAV’s much more capable, and survival of the vehicle and the crew that just couldn’t be matched at the time.
Thanks again for your content!
I also have great Respect for the rest of the Youngsters carrying our Torch on to the next generation!
I realize that today’s Military personnel may not have to be as Expendable as I once was in the Fulda Gap, but the best kept peaceful place to be is in the military, until it’s NOT! Then it’s time to do the job and forget about everything else for a while until you are Relieved or given your own last breath for your higher purpose, if that’s for Freedoms of others or your Comrades in Arms!
RESPECT’ and SALUTE’ to all!!!
I've always thought the CV-90 series to be far and away the best IFV on the planet. Also, when up gunned with either the 105mm L7/M68 or the in house 120mm long gun. It makes for quite the deadly and mobile light tank with high interchangeable parts with its IFV cousin.
Slovakia just bought 150 of these over the Lynx and Ascod. It also looks like Czech are also going to decide for CV90 getting their 200+ soon. Quite happy for the choice svk made here
well, that was likely not due to the performence but due to unit price and procurement time.
Lynx would be produced locally, but with 10-12m€ a piece it is quite expensive and procurement would take 3-4 years, because the production facilities in Hungary are booked out for the next few years and building a new one in Czech Republik or Slovakia will take some time.
In the comparative tests, Lynx had shown significantly better performence than CV90 in many areas (its just a more modern and more advanced platform, but thats expensive....)
As comparison: the Puma IFV of the Bundeswehr has a procurement Price of 17m€ per vehicle.
Marder IFV of the Bundeswehr had a inflation adjusted procurement price of 385.000€ per vehicle in 1971, modernised versions delivered to Jordan varied between 660.000€ and 890.000€ per vehicle in 2016-2019.
Marder is pretty dated by now and does not incorporate basicly any high tech. Thats why its very cheap in comparison to modern state of the art systems.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 If you read the Slovak MOD evaluation report, the Lynx was the worst in techical and capability trials. It scored highest only in deliveries and maintenance categories. So pretty much the exact opposite of what you assume here. ASCOD was best in logistics category. Unit cost for offered variant was 1,9m€ for both CV90 and ASCOD and 2,3m€ for Lynx. In the end Lynx was the worst and the most expensive. Overall relative score results as per Slovak MOD:
1. CV9030: 99,67%
2. CV9035: 97,76%
3. ASCOD: 92,8%
4. Lynx: 90,20 %
CV9035 was chosen in the end despite finishing second, as the 35mm canon was deemed more future proof
@@HalloN1989 CV90-30, CV90-35, ASCOD none have active armor, KF41 has active armor (javelin, nlaw, RPG... are ineffective against it), and even without active armor, the strongest armor is on it (stanag6)
Norway 🇳🇴 loves our CV90’s
Love the video! Did my GI as a commander of the CV90. A fantastic IFV! Nothing that I would like to improve!
Been a fan ever since I saw that video years ago with the cv 9040 with the programmable 40 mm ammo.
That 40mm gun is in principle an upside down upgraded Bofors 40mm AA gun... like those US and many others used during WWII and still are in service in some countries until today.
@@nissetorvang1709 Yeah, pretty sure it literally IS the same 40mm L70 gun of WW2 fame, just adapted to fit in that turret with an autoloader and fire control system etc.
@@nudgeunit No, the WWII 40mm gun were a L60 , 60 calibers barrel length known as lvakan m/36 in Swedish service. 9040 reuse the gun from 40mm lvakan m/48 which where an upgraded version with longer barrel, higher rate of fire and electric motors for moving the gun. The gun are turned upside down in the cv9040 and 3x8 magazine is attached.
@@primeflux1 Thank you. Nice to hear someone that isn't talking out of their ass, with some flunkies joining in.
@@primeflux1 it also has a different calibre
Mat deserves to get in the CV series. I mean it.
I think they’ve got the right idea by using one platform to carry a myriad of different weapons systems.
It’s kinda like what the Russians said they were going to do with the T-14 Armata platform.
Every iFV is like that))
You make it sound like the development of Japanese cars that sucked when they first came out but with feedback from the customers their engineering continuously improves them until they are now high quality vehicles. I like the open source programming that are easy to up-grade and data sharing. It would be even better if they placed their electronics on boards rather than hard wiring them together. I don't know how their hardware is made but even if electronic boards are heavier; upgrading the electronic hardware and repairs of the system are greatly simplified. The Cv90 family has a common mechanical chasis, diesel engines, not fuel guzzling gas turbines, and lower weight than comparable platforms. All of this reduces the transportation and logistics trail to the battlefield. You can transport such a tank more easily by cargo planes or ships for rapid deployment. In my opinion these are especially great vehicles for smaller militaries such as Canada's, Poland's, or the Czech's. I agree that this vehicle definitely fills a very strategic role in modern militaries. I like it and other Scandanavian military equipment.
I was sold when they talked about the ability to calculate parts wear and each vehicle to conduct its own diagnostics.
With the new CV90 modular turret design you can fit most weapons and sensors on the market.
Very clever design 👍🏻
I know from an event where American Bradley's were here in Norway they tended to dig their hull into the snow and get stuck while the CV90 hull floats on top of the snow and thus has excellent mobility on snow
I think I saw that in a clip on YT or something.
this is not true. the CV90 now weighs 37 Tonnes. 10 Tonnes more than the Bradley. Now the CV90 will get stuck while the Bradley has remained light at 27 Tonnes.
@@swunt10 Both were clearly weighed down in the clip.
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@@swunt10 which variant of the CV90 weights 37tons?
@@larshenrik8900 They modern versions
most people don't appreciate the amount of planning and work that goes into making a vehicle like this.
Not gonna lie, i wish Esercito Italiano choose the CV90 (even in the 40mm configuration) for replace our dated VCC Dardo...
The CV it's really an impressive machine😍
That thing would be pretty damn effective in a mechanized brigade group, but if you are thinking Canada we will probably end up with some low mileage cast-off Marder 1's, that we can rebuild from the tracks up for ten years before they are in service, but maybe I am just cynical.
While probably correct, you are also acidic enough for your sweat to dissolve gold at room temperature XD
You forgot to mention "at greater cost than buying new CV90s".
@@tomriley5790 CV90mk IV, LAV 700 50MM ,LEOPARD 2A7 V ,BVS10, HIMARS, AH1Z COBRA,as you procure it send the old stuff to Ukraine 1 for 1 until the current vehicles are replaced
you're the best Matsumus! I learn so much not just about the vehicles and equiptment, but as a military logictics hobbyist who has never has the honor of serving I also learn so much more about about the real world applications. I feel your videos offer people like myself teh closest thing to what a real world view of opperating this stuff is like and a whole new appreciation for what it means to serve.
The CV90 got its basic functional requirements and design trade-offs right from its beginning -. It didn't try to be all things to everyone or deliver outrageous capabilities (i.e. fully submersible to 100 feet and a 160 kph top road speed). Like other fundamentally sound designs, (M2-HB, Burke class destroyer, etc) it is adaptable and upgrade able, allowing the sound initial design to incorporate advances in technology and armament as they mature.
Somehow after handling a Mora knife, I'm not surprised at all to hear how good modern Swedish weapons are. Also, it's funny how the rail networks are still so relevant in today's wars. Designing the CV90 to fit on a train is a smart move.
Go Scandinavia! 💪
Here in Denmark we have the CV-9035, the Leopard 2A7 and the F35 👍😃
Kinda sad that norway got the 30mm instead of the 35 :(
Absolutly a great combination. Cheers.
@@petterteignesse5486 the reason for going with the 30 is because its fits the norwegian battlefield better. And you can carry with you alot more ammo 👍🏻
Matt, funny hearing you pleading to Dan, "get me in to one of those"... then, this year, you got your wish from Santa :)
Great video as always Matsimus love the CV90 and the LAV 6.0 are my two favourite armoured vehicles
100% agree with you on this. I have the exact same opinion. Add in the latest variants of the Leopard2A7(?). Including it's support vehicles like engineer and recovery versions. The A2Panzerhaubitz2000 155mm -> however that is spelled. Use the same A2PZR2000(?) 155mm platform for your MLRS. VikingMK2. Armoured vehicle fleet basically sorted. Invest your R&D money into modifying those chassis for your different role requirements instead of pissing away your $ trying to re-invent the wheel.
As an Asian country , Myanmar I love CV90
I love seeing these things drive around. CV-90 is probably my favorite👍
i served on the cv9035mkIIIDK and what a vehicle.. specially down south "afghanistan".. it was very well used.. which i was on the first tour with it deployed.. worked like a dream
One of the biggest criticisms I've read about the CV90 platform is its cost. However, I haven't read any material that suggests that its competitors offer substantial savings. Equally important is the infrastructure necessary to maintain a high level of operational utilization, which is often overlooked but remains an essential factor in deployment availability.
I would really like to see a more detailed comparison of this vehicle to its near-peers (Puma & Redback) to put the issue of "cost" into more perspective. Great video, thx! 🖖
Don't know about purchase cost. But in terms of operating costs it's one of the cheapest out there, especially designed for easy maintenance by unskilled conscripts.
@@SwedishVilsten Interesting! If the operating costs are reasonable, then the platform represents good value for any reasonable procurement program. The US in particular has spent boku money buying fancy hardware across all of its branches (some with unproven technologies) that has generally failed to deliver on the cliched promises of "off-the-shelf components", "fully integrated systems management" and "reduced personnel requirements" in the timeframe originally designed.
I suspect that each individual system will work just fine once the bugs are worked out and the logistical/training support is refined- but at the cost of wasted money, effort and time. Isn't it better to license a fully functioning platform, adapted for a specific country's needs, than reinvent the wheel? 🤷🏻♀️
its competitors in cost are russian equivalents mostly
The best out there right now for sure. Denmark is upgrading its CV9035 MK3 to MK4. Including the Spike LR2 missiles, which will also be used on other platforms and with dismounts. And.. The users with 35mm Bushmaster lll will most likely upgrade to 50mm, since that's what USA is betting on for their replacement for Bradley. The upgrade is quite simple.. A new barrel more or less 🤷♂️ The advantages is not just more lethality but also more affordable ammunition. Since USA need so much. The production volume on 35mm is very low, making it expensive.
I’ve been waiting for this video for quite some time now haha
Proud to be a driver on one of these beauties
Lucky man
Can we take a moment to appreciate how good that chassis looks like?
CV90 is probably the most badass prebuilt pc
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heck they can even mine bitcoin with it
But will it max Crysis? ;)
@@lordsqueak they'll need to put dry ice in the radiator for that
In 2014 some Danish CV 90's were excercising in Hungary...And a bunch ended up in repair tents due to the transmission overheating on our hills..They said it was the fault of the drivers 'cause they weren't used to driving on hills...whatever was the real reason, its kinda interesting.
Sounds like a resonable explanation, considering i never heard of that being an issue for the Norwegians. Not many places have more hills then Norway, so if it was mainly a design issue, they should have noticed.
The tallest 'mountain' in Denmark is 147 meters tall. The country is just about completely flat, its very plausible that they Danish drivers werent used to driving up hills
Sounds like the drivers fault. There are procedures to follow to avoid this and i can confirm the procedures work.
@@Redbanano To be fair to the drivers, I suspect it can be a thing that is hard to train if one lack the terrain to train in. A bit like training for artic warfare in a place without snow, it is hard to have people remember procedures if they never experience what the procedures are for.
Friend of mine was in hungary once gott eaten by a crocodile... just saying its intresting you know. Makes you wonder about hungary
This vehicle is a beast. My best friend did a stint as a SF90 infantryman. One of the first exercise runs was to just go, flat out, in terrain. His organs where not in the original places after that little ride.
My friend was lucky enough to serve o the CV-9040 AA vehicle while I was just an infantry pleb. Though I've been lucky enough to get up close and feel and squeeze on a few of these.
That new crazy camo scheme looks cool and I love the new additions of the new variants.
Great video!
Yeah, I'd like a couple of those for my neighborhood lol!
It's quite subtle, maybe I'm just imagining things, but guys I think Matsmus likes the CV90.
540 of them beasts is working at the Swedish armed forces....and they are the best of IFV - love the new stuff coming up in short regarding this loving lady
Gotta say, the swedish m90 camo is a vibe
Haven’t even watched yet, but I had to comment on just how crazy trippy that first music track was!
Hi Matsimus, Another excellent video! I feel that the CV90 Mk 4 and it’s variants should have been selected to replace Worrior in its IFV role, as well as the armoured scout reconnaissance role that Ajax is supposed to be filling for the British Army, especially now with the Challenger 3 Upgrade being procured. I feel that with the current known specifications, capabilities and “problems”! with the Ajax programme there was a distinct lack of a properly defined mission set and specifications to meet it. As from what is known, it doesn’t fulfil the Infantry carrying capacity to replace Worrior in the Tracked IFV role to support the Challenger 3 MBT capability.
great vid, i served on the cv9040. it is very good in terrain and snow. All the other ifv tested couldnt keep up at all in the international tests done. So it really works when its tough and hard.
Slovakia is buying these. Seems a good deal.
The other members of the CV90 family like the CV90120 tank killer with huge 120mm gun get a lot of attention, but I would be very interested to hear your opinion of the impact on battalion tactics of a system like the CV90 Mjölner firing 120mm HE and especially HEAT rounds tipped with the M395 GPS precision guided kit with a CEP in operations of 3-4m (10m is the requirement) or similar versions of the Israeli Elbit "Iron Sting" which has GPS for a similar CEP and a semi-active laser seeker which has a CEP of less than 1m when using its laser seeker that is capable of hitting a moving target.
While such systems make individual rounds 6 or more times as expensive as unguided rounds, the vastly improved CEP allows the total number of rounds required to destroy a given small area target (a command post, an ammo cache or an armored vehicle) would be such that using these precision guided shell might not be any more expensive per fire mission by allowing 1-2 round kills rather than 6-12. This also greatly reduces the logistic tail, which has its own cost savings. Then, since the number of shells that can be carried is fixed, using 1-2 rounds be fire mission rather than 6-12 means many more targets can be successfully engaged before having to reload. And lastly combined with a mortar carrier like the Mjölner rather than towed mortars the survivability is greatly enhanced since there is no set up and tear down time, nor is there a need to stay stationary long enough to fire adjustment rounds to correct the aim and then fire a number of rounds for effect if using unguided rounds. Instead a mortar carrier like the Mjölner firing guided shells can have the target coordinates already programmed into the fire control computer, stop and get the exact launch point and do final aiming adjustments, fire and then immediately start moving again with confidence that the target will be destroyed.
With the addition of forward observers, or most likely drones with a laser designator, 120mm rounds HEAT could land with a CEP smaller than the top of an APC/IFV or tank. As such there would be no need to get within visual range of a tank to kill it like the CV90120 would with its big gun where the CV90120 is in even more danger than the tank it is targeting since if it can see the tank, the tank can see them, and has just as big a gun and a lot thicker armor. Instead the Mjölner could remain safely beyond visual range of a tank and drop HEAT rounds onto it top.
damn a 30 minute vid from mat, welp time to grab some popcorn
I'd be careful putting Matsimus and a CV90 into the same room......the passion is oozing.
Matsimus, let's start saving our loonies and get one or 2 CV-90s. You can have one for Alberta, and I will have one for Ontario, and together we can defend Canada!
Protect your coastal port cities, Ie. Vancouver........Although it's my 2nd home, Ontario is pretty far from the fight!......Alberta to, lol...
Great film Mat.
Re GPUs, they're used primarily because they're fast and 'off the shelf'. Yes they also provide good graphical capability (your smartphone analogy) but that's not primary, as the GUI demands are pretty low. It's also why they're used for bitcoin mining: Fast and easily integrated
The Ruzzians should be more concerned about CV90 and Bradley than those Leopard tanks and their heavy weight...
Great video Matsimus!
If they're as tough and reliable as the Volvo and Saab cars that have been so successful.......... they'll be absolutely superb!!!
Thanks for bringing back this type of video. Great content.
The vehicle that the British Army should have just gone with
just buy german, as the british army seems to do on a regular basis ;)
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 I guess you don’t realise what the B in BAE systems is
@@jackburton9035 the cv90 is developed by Alvis Vickers Subsidiary Hägglund, wich only moved over into BAE Subsidiary after BAE bought up Vickers.
The integration of Vickers happened in 2005-2007, way past the developement and start of production of CV90.
but some other examples:
Cr3 is more or less a Rheinmetall product, as Rheinmetall owns the majority share (51%)of Rheinmetall-BAE Systems Land, wiich upgrades and produces the Cr3.
And the upgrades, new turret etc are designed by Rheinmetall.
GTK Boxer?
Produced by KMW and Rheinmetall and their subsidiary in the Netherlands.
BAE dropped out in the early 2000´s to fail at their own project, now buying the Boxer.
SA80 assault rifle.
Total failure until H&K fixed it for you
etc.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 cool, the B stands for British by the way.
@@jackburton9035 no shit sherlok.
and Hägglund + Bofors were producing CV90 from the early 90s, more than 15 years prior to BAE aquiring them.
BAE is just managing Hägglunds and Bofors marketing and decorates itself with their laurels.
and Alvis-Vickers only bought Hägglund in the late 90´s themselves,, Bofors was bought by UDI in the late 90s, so there was no british involvement there.
damn why are matsimus' intros always so fire, the only youtuber i dont skip the first 30 seconds of videos for
Hi Mat, congratulations, this is one of your best examples how a video should be composed. This is one of the few fighting vehicles that I would trust with my life. If this vehicle can cope with the terrain above the Artic Circle (as we experienced in Norway and Canada) and have been proved in the dust of Afghanistan it’s the one we should buy. But, since when have we soldiers had any say that the government accountant’s could not trump with their Treasury reasoning?! You have picked up a good point in transporting these vehicles to their kicking off point. Thanks again. Cheers mate. Harera
To be fair, they had to be upgraded with an air conditioning unit to be viable in Afghanistan and Liberia.
@@SonsOfLorgar Hi, to be sure the A/C is a great improvement especially these days when you can get them to blow cold or warm filtered air. But, you have to take into consideration that us Old Soldiers considered “Punkah wallahs” a luxury! Cheers mate. Harera
Soldiers being able to buy stocks/shares/$ in the military. Kind of an interesting concept.....
@@beerthug Hi, I am not sure of how much knowledge you have of the British Army, but the use of
“Punkah Wallah” is the Hindi word for a man that is employed to manually move the air in a room to keep the occupant’s cool, this was before the use of electric fans etc.The British use a lot of Hindi and Urdu and Arabic words mixed into their daily speech. For example, the word you yourself use e.g. thug, is a Hindu word meaning “a violent person, especially a criminal or a bandit”. Makes you think, aye?! Cheers mate. Harera
Bofors 40mm just wins, 89 years of service, still going strong
I like something modular. If I had a country, I would have definitely purchase the auto cannon, something for infantry and IFV destoryer. The CV-90 has a big future ahead.
G'day Matt! noiiice vid! love the paint scheme 👍🍻😺
Sweden makes amazing weapon systems but its weird how barely any countries ever buy their weapons
War materials are much more than just materials you buy loyalty to countries. Many western countries choose to buy from the usa for that reason
not really true, the at-4 and 8.4cm carl gustaf are used my almost all of nato and more, the saab giraffe radar is used by the us, uk, canada etc.
sweden usually have demands how u use their weapon systems so it makes it hard for 3 rd world countries to get these swedish war material
Sweden have quite strict export laws regarding arms sales.
What modern wars have Sweden even fought in?
Thats why.
excellent brief on a great vehicle I have been following this vehicle from the beginning and I believe as you do its the best!
Their presentation reminds me of Koenigsegg's presentations. Very personal, done by their CEO.
DAMN ALGORYTHM! Spent too much time watching some Total War WarHammer 2 videos and youtube forgot I love your videos. That bell is oh so clicked!
I mean, it's got quite the number of deployment, meaning it's combat proven.
Really good stuff.
That CV90 going by…is that Matsimus driving?
Plot twist! it will be 9 nations armies. Slovakia and Czechia decided to go for CV90 too :)
All these vehicles have a great platform to work from and look at on how to improve. That would be the STRYKER which has been made for over 20 years now. It has 10 different armament modules and keeps getting upgraded. I have always been torn between tires and tracks on these vehicles. It's obvious that each has it's advantages but I feel tires has more of them. Tracks biggest would be mud and soft snow. The tires actually do pretty well on snow if driven right and tires aired down properly
Who else thinks Matt wants CANADA to get CV90s, so that he can get some hands-on time with a CV90?
He just did......
I first got in a CV90 in Liberia with P10 Södermanlands Regemente and then while in Sweden for the Nordic Battlegroup with I19 Norbottens Regemente.
The British military should just adopt these instead of fluffing about with the AJAX. How they haven't just adopted the CV90 already and chose a convoluted development program with the ASCOD is quite simply bureaucratic ineptitude.
ngl, but it's mesmerizing how bad the Ajax project has been on tests. british engineers have the tradition of designing some good machinery. what the hell happened there
Yeah the CV90 is awesome and got the pleasure to drive it while on exercise in Latvia it is a fantastic unit also love the power-pack it the best engine in the world scania V8 ds14 I know there good because I own 2 r650 tractor units
CV-90 is simply the best, with all the issues with competitors in the US IFV competition it is criminal a decision on picking the CV-90 has not already been made, we are on the verge of WW3 and they are still effing around.
Canada should have gotten off of our duffs and purchased the CV-90! Sweden and Canada share a similar climate, and something built for the Swedish terrain and climate would also fit into a Canadian operational envelope. Yes, The LAV-6 is great, but come on, the CV-90 would eat a LAV's lunch and still come back for the dessert too!
Purchasing military hardware is also about military doctrine.
Canada's climate may be similar in some areas, but the terrain is much different depending in which part of the country you're in.
The Swiss Army Knife of IFVs. I really dig the color scheme on that thing very cool.