If Planets Were Donuts

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  • Опубліковано 1 чер 2015
  • What if planets were not (nearly) spherical but rather torus/donut shaped? Topics discussed: types of tori, stability of torus planets, gravity vs centrifugal force, curvature, tidal forces, seasons and day/night cycles, climate, hurricanes, coriolis forces, tectonics, internal heating, moons, and the four color theorem.
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    LINKS:
    ►Torus on Wikipedia: goo.gl/QbdSKA
    ►Topography of a Twisted Torus: goo.gl/zlAe3q
    ►Embedding a Torus: goo.gl/dBxHSy
    ►Torus-Earth: goo.gl/99xZXK
    ►Torus-Earth 2: goo.gl/xlK4iW
    ►Toroidal World: goo.gl/9aWjck
    ►Torus Planet Simulation: goo.gl/Esm8OX
    ►Discussion on Torus planets: goo.gl/XMLV7D
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  • @joes4866
    @joes4866 9 років тому +1003

    I just realized how cool it would be to look up and see the other part of the planet.

    • @0Blueaura
      @0Blueaura 8 років тому +11

      +Joseph Schmitz You never though of that before?

    • @defeatSpace
      @defeatSpace 8 років тому +57

      +Joseph Schmitz It would be like a Halo Ring.

    • @khorps4756
      @khorps4756 8 років тому +5

      +Joseph Schmitz me to, i never thought having rings or a torus shaped planet would be so cool, NASA, sign me up if you find one

    • @icannotchoose
      @icannotchoose 6 років тому +51

      Me: *Calls friend* I can see your house from here!
      Friend: You've made that joke before...like 50 times

    • @BrendanCalliesComposer
      @BrendanCalliesComposer 5 років тому +6

      Play halo

  • @kyle-silver
    @kyle-silver 8 років тому +545

    The real question is: could you write a story that takes place on a toroidal world without inadvertently turning it into a treatise on toroidal world building?

    • @RavenclawSeer
      @RavenclawSeer 8 років тому +19

      +Kyle Silver I would write a story on it. Not sure how though.

    • @asher1_
      @asher1_ 7 років тому +16

      Read Pendragon book five. I'm pretty sure the sun band on eelong is because eelong is toroidal

    • @ReductioadVeritas
      @ReductioadVeritas 6 років тому +10

      already been done but on an artificial planet

    • @someone4650
      @someone4650 6 років тому +14

      It’d be interesting, like maybe the villain’s plot is to collapse the planet

    • @biblestudysoftware
      @biblestudysoftware 6 років тому +2

      Kyle Silver Larry Niven did that. Forgotten which book but it starts: “Kannady for the State”.

  • @0Blueaura
    @0Blueaura 8 років тому +515

    I would love to look up at sky and see the ring of city lights water and mountains

    • @rileyamato3292
      @rileyamato3292 8 років тому +31

      +Aurora I just imagine that and my mind is blown as I stare at my imagination in wonder.

    • @asher1_
      @asher1_ 7 років тому +1

      You wouldn't see lights, it would just be a band with no individuality.

    • @TheSupperteen
      @TheSupperteen 6 років тому +13

      The band would be In the light so you would be able to see the city's roads with a decent telescope when it is night for you.

    • @VoidAlien
      @VoidAlien 5 років тому

      Would make some good spying?

  • @CastorQuinn
    @CastorQuinn 9 років тому +513

    This is an interesting video, but it fails to address the most important question about life on a toroidal world: would their donuts be toroidal or spherical?

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +98

      Castor Quinn Haha...great comment!

    • @batuamparh
      @batuamparh 8 років тому +5

      +Artifexian i dont know why you would say that much things are further needed to be explained. i think you explained it perfectly

    • @Remousamavi
      @Remousamavi 8 років тому +28

      I can answer that:
      Their doughnuts will be pretzel shaped.

    • @Luigicat11
      @Luigicat11 8 років тому +9

      +Castor Quinn They'd be duocylindrical.

    • @Ferkeshu
      @Ferkeshu 6 років тому +4

      Cubical

  • @initialb5009
    @initialb5009 8 років тому +387

    my brain hurts now, this idea is epic, why has it not been done in a movie before ?

    • @maxwellsimon4538
      @maxwellsimon4538 8 років тому +48

      +Barry McGuigan I guess you could say the video game series Halo kinda did this.

    • @initialb5009
      @initialb5009 8 років тому +6

      never played that, might have to have a go now..

    • @maxwellsimon4538
      @maxwellsimon4538 8 років тому +42

      Barry McGuigan
      Just be warned, it doesn't really show up much, and its more of a giant hula hoop rather than a donut

    • @maxwellsimon4538
      @maxwellsimon4538 8 років тому +1

      *****
      yeah, true

    • @mikaarinn
      @mikaarinn 8 років тому +3

      +Barry McGuigan I know, right? This blew my mind :D I would so watch that movie!

  • @TheInselaffen
    @TheInselaffen 8 років тому +210

    Tell us more about this planet Ert.

    • @ranshibuki9659
      @ranshibuki9659 8 років тому +2

      +Organon I'm sorry but I had to steal that spelling of "ert" xD

    • @lumen2852
      @lumen2852 5 років тому +2

      I'm the 69th like ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @danebradbury5940
      @danebradbury5940 5 років тому +3

      @@ranshibuki9659 it was making fun of his pronunciation of earth

    • @MaskFaceStup1dP4nc4kes
      @MaskFaceStup1dP4nc4kes 2 роки тому

      canadian english i see

  • @a2rhombus2
    @a2rhombus2 8 років тому +66

    Now I want to live on a torus

  • @nade5557
    @nade5557 8 років тому +114

    what about the magnetic field?

    • @ilanzatonski8826
      @ilanzatonski8826 6 років тому +2

      Yousef Zidane idk lol

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 6 років тому

      Yousef Zidane. One would be possible.

    • @RavenclawSeer
      @RavenclawSeer 6 років тому +8

      It could potentially be quite strong... If artificial...

    • @jochemgoede5759
      @jochemgoede5759 4 роки тому +3

      Well, actually, I think it wouldn't be very strong, because our magnetic field is created mostly by a large mass of iron rich magma rotating in the Earth's core(I heard something about an experiment where they use a pretty huge ball of molten sodium to simulate that, which is extremely dangerous because sodium really likes to catch fire and it does even more so when in contact with water)
      Anyway, because the torus planet doesn't have that I think it wouldn't have a strong magnetic field; but idk, maybe a big ring is better than a small ball? I do think the magnetic field is most interesting in the hole

    • @smartart6841
      @smartart6841 3 роки тому

      Very wierd with a hoop shaped core

  • @maxwellsimon4538
    @maxwellsimon4538 8 років тому +181

    What if a species of Glactus-like organisms created planet sized rings of rocks, tossed them around suns, let complex life "ferment" on them and then later ate the entire planet, along with it's matured ecosystem, as a delicious afternoon snack?

    • @carsonianthegreat4672
      @carsonianthegreat4672 8 років тому +26

      So does this mean we live in a donut hole?😳

    • @maxwellsimon4538
      @maxwellsimon4538 8 років тому +25

      Carsonian The Great
      ...
      uh oh

    • @PedroGeaquinto
      @PedroGeaquinto 7 років тому +6

      hahaha your profile pic is so related, that i'm laughing. a "WORLDBuILDING" video, plus a creature which consumes planets.

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer 6 років тому +4

      Mass execution of the Glactus-like organisms by the complex life.

    • @pudy2487
      @pudy2487 6 років тому +2

      thats like leaving bread out and then eating it once it's moldy as a delicious afternoon mold snack

  • @notoriouswhitemoth
    @notoriouswhitemoth 8 років тому +94

    +Artifexian This is awesome, I'm loving the idea of a world where day and night fly by almost unnoticed, where the inner rim is towering mountains, the outer rim is sparse archipelagos with stark, shearing winds, where the nights are bitterly cold and the days unbearably hot, a no-man's-land of volcanic activity between the two extremes - but you hardly mentioned the most interesting thing about toroidal planets: their non-euclidian geometry, where distance is proportional and what would otherwise be parallel lines always become concentric rings. They may have a fundamentally different understanding of how mathematics work. The geography is all well and good, but the fun part is figuring out how it would affect culture.

    • @michaeladams3762
      @michaeladams3762 5 років тому +8

      isn't earth already non euclidean

    • @igvc1876
      @igvc1876 4 роки тому +6

      Toroids have a flat Euclidean geometry, i.e., parallel lines do not intersect. Spheres are non-flat, i.e., parallel lines intersect

  • @friend_qqqqq3709
    @friend_qqqqq3709 8 років тому +12

    im thinking of the cultural implications for hypothetical societies on a donut world. people living on the outer rim would be absolutely stunned their first time seeing the inner rim.
    also, people living on the inner rim would be greatly impacted on their ability to look out and see the other side of the inner rim. would early civilizations think they are literally looking at where the gods live, or would they understand their world curves up and that they're just looking at more of the same, leading to an earlier understanding of outside civilizations than they would have had earlier?
    great video either way!

  • @LikeAMos
    @LikeAMos 9 років тому +58

    I think that is would be such a good video if yeti dynamics made a simulation of each of the environments on a torus shaped planet.

    • @Lucas72928
      @Lucas72928 9 років тому +1

      LikeAMos we have to make this happen.

    • @nubeees
      @nubeees 9 років тому +1

      LikeAMos How about YES.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +12

      LikeAMos Trust me, know one wants this more than me!

    • @lock_ray
      @lock_ray 9 років тому +1

      LikeAMos Why can I only like a comment once? That's the best idea ever!

  • @Lucas72928
    @Lucas72928 9 років тому +29

    Would sunset and sunrise colours differ from each other? In certain places, sunlight would have to go through more atmosphere than others, so maybe at sunrise it has less atmosphere to go through than at sunset and vice versa for the other side of the planet.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +24

      LucasFlecoRepe You are correct! Sunrise/sunsets on a torus planet would feature some seriously deep reds and color gradients.

    • @Lucas72928
      @Lucas72928 9 років тому +7

      Artifexian And the "blood moons" would also be deeper reds!

  • @Masterofachief
    @Masterofachief 8 років тому +221

    the universe is huge. so there must be one of these planets out there

    • @thechaoslp2047
      @thechaoslp2047 8 років тому +4

      Ye

    • @ldjuk9463
      @ldjuk9463 8 років тому +18

      Plus there must be more that this universe

    • @shnitzle3094
      @shnitzle3094 8 років тому +18

      There isn't in the observable universe. But maybe?

    • @theuncalledfor
      @theuncalledfor 8 років тому +66

      +Shnitzle McFizzle
      Just because we haven't found one, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The observable universe is HUGE.
      Similarly, just because the universe is huge, doesn't mean one of these has to have formed naturally, or even at all. They might just be unlikely enough that they actually don't exist, or don't exist simply by chance alone.

    • @AetherMinecraft225
      @AetherMinecraft225 6 років тому +5

      Shnitzle McFizzle Your comment kills my brain cells.

  • @MyNameIsCain
    @MyNameIsCain 9 років тому +26

    This is one of the most amazing concepts and videos I have ever seen. Also the most delicious planets ever.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +3

      CainGrey Cheers, buddy! Glad you enjoyed

    • @L1M.L4M
      @L1M.L4M 2 роки тому

      Mmm... rock donuts...

  • @matthewbartlett9222
    @matthewbartlett9222 8 років тому +35

    Thank you so much for this video! As an astrophysics major, I've had no luck finding a thorough source for information and speculation about torus planets- especially one that is both reliable and so descriptive. Since you're pretty good with drawing, could you visit this concept again and perhaps make a plausible map of one, with overlaying maps of tectonic plates and biomes? Also, how big could one of these get (maybe having 1g somewhere) and still be relatively stable?

  • @Rahhelthethird
    @Rahhelthethird 4 роки тому +5

    Steven Hawking: "Your theory of a donut-shaped universe is intriguing, Homer. I may have to steal it."

  • @theorodrigues2267
    @theorodrigues2267 9 років тому +94

    Could you do a video about the ways there could be an actual flat world, like a square, or a disc?

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +41

      Theo Rodriguês I'm planning on making videos about cube planets and flat worlds. Hang in there, Theo. :)

    • @DelthinTheRanger
      @DelthinTheRanger 8 років тому +1

      +bonbon42 ...

    • @zegamingcuber857
      @zegamingcuber857 8 років тому +16

      +bonbon42 actually Minecraft is a flat square

    • @leedoughty1607
      @leedoughty1607 8 років тому +1

      +AidanTBM // TheBudderMinecart but you can walk around a mc world (pc), dosnt that make it a sphere or are wormholes to blame

    • @a1frieren.
      @a1frieren. 8 років тому +1

      +The Habinator Nu, MC wurlds r squer

  • @lejink
    @lejink 8 років тому +45

    Hope a donut world is found in my lifetime :)

    • @rainverrev2307
      @rainverrev2307 8 років тому +17

      Probably not because all the aliens would have eaten them all.

    • @gheenarosh
      @gheenarosh 7 років тому +2

      Rain Verrev heheheee

    • @t.gregory835
      @t.gregory835 5 років тому +1

      I wanna eat it

    • @t.gregory835
      @t.gregory835 5 років тому +1

      And yeet it

    • @_thisnameistaken
      @_thisnameistaken 5 місяців тому

      It’s too bad that toroidal are impossible due to asymmetric instabilities, causing them to break up after just a few hours of existing.

  • @ScottaHemi440
    @ScottaHemi440 9 років тому +47

    ummmm donut world

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +23

      ScottaHemi Om nom nom.

  • @sizor3ds
    @sizor3ds 9 років тому +87

    would be a pain in the ass to make a map of that planet

    • @asteroidventures2423
      @asteroidventures2423 9 років тому +46

      Millad Bahrami actually it would be easier. You wouldn't have to deal with any projection system at the poles (in video games you often see pinched poles on planets)
      For a torus, you just unroll it into a cyllinder, then unroll the cyllinder. The only change here is that whenever you move above the "top" of your map, you would automatically appear at the bottom. Unlike a spherical map where you have to calculate where you would be on a rectangular projection.
      Just think about it, would it be easier to cut apart a soccer ball into a rectangle, or to unroll a paper towel roll?

    • @Alienturnedhuman
      @Alienturnedhuman 9 років тому +9

      Millad Bahrami Actually, it wouldn't - a torus can be mapped to a rectangle as well, only where on a rectangular projection of a sphere one edge joins to the other (east and west on most maps of the Earth), both edges join together on the map of a torus. This means that on a rectangular map of a torus, with the bottom edge being south, the top edge would also be south, the middle would be north, and the 25% / 75% distances would be the outside / inside equators.
      However unlike maps of Earth it would be more complicated to work out distances, as both equators would appear the same size whereas the inside equator is shorter than the outside one. However, as a rectangular map of the Earth already has this problem (ie, latitudes get shorter the further away from the equator you get but appear the same length on a map) - on a torus map it would just mean that one half of the map had latitudes decreasing as you move away from the equator and the others would have it increasing, with the poles being equal in length.

    • @mbartelsm
      @mbartelsm 9 років тому +2

      Asteroid Ventures Actually, you do need different projections for torus shaped worlds as the planet would be a 3 dimensional shape being shown in a 2D space. A rectangular projection would be one option, but then you would also have others, such as shape preserving projections and equidistant projections.
      Though I agree that mapping a torus is definitely easier than mapping a sphere

    • @durdleduc8520
      @durdleduc8520 8 років тому

      I know!

    • @arandomlizard3411
      @arandomlizard3411 7 років тому +6

      Also globes would be shaped like donuts so kids might eat them by accident

  • @danielkover7157
    @danielkover7157 5 років тому +4

    Mmm...donut planets...
    Also, when you mentioned the quick days and nights, I immediately thought of Minecraft days (which seem to fly by too fast).

  • @nielskorpel8860
    @nielskorpel8860 8 років тому +30

    Let's talk rings, toroidal planets with rings.
    How would that work?

    • @natp8888
      @natp8888 6 років тому +7

      I subscribe to a dot of dust in the middle.

    • @TheRedKing247
      @TheRedKing247 4 роки тому

      Most likely concentric on the same plane as the toroidal planet.

    • @jamesestelle7260
      @jamesestelle7260 3 роки тому

      Maybe they would be just SPRINKLED about.

    • @flatearthnews7904
      @flatearthnews7904 3 роки тому

      Maybe like the moon in the video, it would look like two rings.

  • @josephduffy5423
    @josephduffy5423 8 років тому +38

    Although the laws of physics would allow for a celestial body of such a shape to exist, definition states that an object must be spherical to be called a planet.

    • @MonteCreations
      @MonteCreations 8 років тому +29

      +Joseph Duffy Yes but the definition of what constitutes a "planet" is kinda of vague and has been changing over time as we learn about new planets and our galaxy. If we found a such a planet, it would just mean we'd have to revisit the definition

    • @josephduffy5423
      @josephduffy5423 8 років тому +4

      MonteCreations Fair enough

    • @natp8888
      @natp8888 6 років тому +8

      The laws of physics seem to love occasionally breaking people's brains, huh?

    • @inverted_paradox4170
      @inverted_paradox4170 5 років тому

      ahhh fuck, i geuss no tourtus planet for me

  • @drjong2651
    @drjong2651 8 років тому +4

    Only just discovered your channel, but I love it! Linguistics and astronomy are my two favourite topics. Keep it up!

  • @906087
    @906087 7 років тому +8

    Could you please do one about a tilting water world? I've read articles about how such a celestial object could exist and be habitable, but they lacked visuals.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  7 років тому +2

      We'll see, buddy.

    • @906087
      @906087 7 років тому

      Thank you

    • @ryanspence5831
      @ryanspence5831 4 роки тому

      hold on i'm not smart enough to tell if this is a joke about earth or something else, please explain

  • @ThePremordialGod
    @ThePremordialGod 8 років тому +1

    Curiosity led me here from SciShow. I really appreciated how in-depth you went with, well, everything. Thanks for the extra mile-worth of effort!

  • @ayaan9646
    @ayaan9646 8 років тому +39

    Am I the only one who wanted to just grab and eat those donuts?

    • @omfgmouse
      @omfgmouse 8 років тому +1

      +Active Ayaan Nope

    • @Hiperforteca
      @Hiperforteca 8 років тому +1

      I just imagined Homer Simpson in Galactus' outfit xD

    • @ayaan9646
      @ayaan9646 8 років тому

      Ashton van Niekerk that doughnut in the thumbnail, looks great!

    • @ayaan9646
      @ayaan9646 8 років тому

      Hyper xD

    • @heyzeus9306
      @heyzeus9306 8 років тому +1

      Mmmmmm... Donut... Nope, you are not the only one 🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩🍩

  • @Lucas72928
    @Lucas72928 9 років тому +24

    Would the atmosphere of the planet also be a torus?

    • @TheDemonGyro
      @TheDemonGyro 9 років тому +5

      LucasFlecoRepe This is actually cool to think about. I feel that the atmosphere would be a torus as well because the atmosphere would follow the same gravitation and centrifugal forces as the planet itself. It might be less thick in some areas because of the complex interaction of the forces, like at the center of the donut. Not sure though.
      If there were enough atmosphere, it might touch in the lagrange point in the center so it would look more like a disc.

    • @CastorQuinn
      @CastorQuinn 9 років тому +10

      LucasFlecoRepe There was an article in Sci Am a few years ago that said that the atmosphere on any plausible ring toroidal world would be a horn torus as spin and varying gravity would stretch the atmopshere, but that atmosphere would have different, lower density in the interior of the planet. I can't find a link to the article, sorry.

  • @samuelkuhn4067
    @samuelkuhn4067 7 років тому +16

    They need to add these planets in No Man's Sky.

    • @xELITExKILLAx
      @xELITExKILLAx 7 років тому +7

      There is a lot of things that need to be added to No Man's Sky like gas giants and multiple moons worlds and binary star systems and brown dwarfs and rogue planets and giant asteroids you can land on and planets with rings and black holes and neutron stars and white dwarfs. Those are just basic stuff. Later they can get a little more advanced with a torus planet and maybe

    • @TheScabbage
      @TheScabbage 5 років тому +1

      NMS actually uses a toroidal planet mapping scheme, that's why the terrain changes so drastically when you transition from space to land.

  • @NickiCorset
    @NickiCorset 8 років тому +1

    I am beyond glad this channel exists. Been needing sources for world building :)

  • @cianmattern1896
    @cianmattern1896 7 років тому

    Fantastic video mate!

  • @doom5895
    @doom5895 7 років тому +3

    Our planet better be jelly filled

    • @sjei.
      @sjei. 5 років тому

      magma is just superheated jelly

    • @sjei.
      @sjei. 5 років тому

      yeah I was agreeing with you

  • @xinterest9029
    @xinterest9029 9 років тому +6

    Thanks SO MUCH for researching this topic for us! I was thinking about it recently, and maybe someday I'll be brave enough to build such a (delicious) toroidal world. For now, at least, I'll stick with spheroids.
    Final note: How awesome do you think it would be to find a toroid planet in real life? I think it would be a story for the ages!
    Thanks again!

  • @Altorin
    @Altorin 6 років тому +1

    Interesting fact - the topography of the maps indicate that old final fantasy games take place on donut worlds.
    Specifically the north of the map attaches directly to the south and west attaches directly to the east.
    Those are donut shaped maps

  • @melvinelderhorst5920
    @melvinelderhorst5920 9 років тому

    Nicely told, missed the vids :)
    Good to see you are back.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому

      melvin e Ye, this one took me AGES to put together. Sorry about the wait.

  • @LTAlter8
    @LTAlter8 9 років тому +2

    I think it would be important to consider the lack of a molten spinning core, which would equate to a lack in a magnetic field. So, the solar wind would buffet away the atmosphere.

    • @ct-hv1uz
      @ct-hv1uz 8 років тому +1

      +LTAlter Something tells me the "Core" of the world would just be a thinner torus inside. I suppose if you got it to spin rimward, you could get a magnetic field.

    • @kumbi8368
      @kumbi8368 8 років тому +1

      The core would be within the torus itself. The inner region of the torus has a thinner crust, which allows the mantle within the torus to seep out much easily this volcanic activity at the inner rim.

    • @ct-hv1uz
      @ct-hv1uz 8 років тому

      kumbirai muringi It would have to "roll out" from the center to generate any magnetic fields I think.

  • @rileyamato3292
    @rileyamato3292 8 років тому +6

    Could there be such thing as a torus star? I'm thinking maybe no because it's made of gas and gas doesn't really stay together that well. Although i'm also thinking it could be artificially made by a super advanced race by quickly putting all the gas together quick enough to keep it gravitationally attracted, but there would be no point in them doing that. Also this makes me question if there could be such thing as a torus gas giant.

    • @RavenclawSeer
      @RavenclawSeer 8 років тому

      +Riley Amato Probably... if artificial with something to prevent the matter from coalescing in the center.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 6 років тому +1

      Riley Amato. Its not like the Taurus planet here is holding its self together due to compressive or tensile strength. Its all a ballance of gravitational forces. At the scale of a planet you can consider rocks and metals to be effectively fluid just like liquids and gas.
      To determine if a Taurus star is possible you would have to scale the math up to at least the point that fusion could occour and see if it would work on that scale.
      It would be interesting if he revisited this concept with a focus on scale. How small ciuld such a thing be without depending on the stregnth of its material? How large could it be? From giant terrestrial worlds to gas giants to stars.
      Though I believe that even this planet in the video would have the mass of at least a few earths.

  • @salt1404
    @salt1404 8 років тому +1

    I observe you put lots of hard work into your video, RESPECT! I don't understand how some people put crappy videos that have no work ethic into them and get hundreds of thousands of views, and you put so much work into a great video and get 23,000 views...this world is a fucked up place, only if the people that put in work actually got what they deserved, I have so much respect for you dude, keep up the great videos!

  • @defeatSpace
    @defeatSpace 8 років тому

    Subbed. I LOVE this channel.

  • @Destructowad
    @Destructowad 9 років тому +21

    I just found this channel because of /r/interestingasfuck and was not disappointed at all. You've earned another subscriber.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +6

      Destructowad I was on /r/interestingasfuck. Wow! Can you link me? Glad you enjoyed the video. Will keep em coming :)

    • @Destructowad
      @Destructowad 9 років тому +2

      www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/38dexb/what_if_planets_were_donut_shaped/

    • @adelineinactivity
      @adelineinactivity 7 років тому

      lol

  • @sakmannakki7294
    @sakmannakki7294 8 років тому +3

    what about the magnetic field... where would the liquid iron core be

    • @bee5120
      @bee5120 8 років тому +1

      It would be inside the minor radii -- in other words, inside the tube of the donut shape like a creme filled donut.

  • @DrawnByDandy
    @DrawnByDandy 7 років тому

    This was fascinating

  • @asav8541
    @asav8541 7 років тому

    Best "what if" video I've ever seen so far

  • @tornadomash00
    @tornadomash00 7 років тому +3

    i would wanna live in that kind of world

  • @magmakaj3092
    @magmakaj3092 8 років тому +4

    what if donut world had a ring? that would be awesome to see :D

    • @alanbarnett718
      @alanbarnett718 3 роки тому

      A whole bunch of rings! A giant volcano on the outside flings rocks and dust into LDO (Low Donut Orbit) where they take up ALL of the possible orbits, including the figure-of-eight one. The orbits are unstable, but the volcano keeps replenishing the rings, which shift constantly...

  • @jrjubach
    @jrjubach 8 років тому

    Awesome video. The artwork is oddly satisfying.

  • @freeenergyandsustainableen202
    @freeenergyandsustainableen202 5 років тому

    Excellent video. Many thanks for your contribution.

  • @Korino
    @Korino 8 років тому +6

    We need a toroidal planet with an 8 ring through the middle o_o

    • @guyblack172
      @guyblack172 6 років тому

      They need to toss that in a science fiction move and let us drool.

  • @NikolajLepka
    @NikolajLepka 9 років тому +15

    You're back!!
    A thing to note though "Centrifugal Force" doesn't actually exist.. There's a thing called the "Centripetal Force" which works in the opposite direction.
    An example:
    Say you have a rock tied to a rope, you now start swinging the rock in a big circle, faster and faster. You can feel the rock pulling harder on the rope the faster you go, as if there was a force dragging it out. This perceived force is what you call centrifugal.
    The reality is that there is no force acting outward, but rather one acting inward, one keeping the rock from flying away. If at any point during the swinging the rope were to snap, the rock would fly off in a direction perpendicular to the rope.
    What you feel in the rope is actually the rope pulling back on the rock, constantly resisting it flying away, changing its direction as it goes along.
    (I even provided an illustration: imgur.com/CgrtUB8 )
    The centripetal force translates to everything having an orbit, in the case of solar system, rather than it being a rope holding a rock in place, it's gravity (and a bigger rock). This is also why the faster a planet spins, the more it bulges in the middle, the rotation is counteracting the gravity more in the place it spins the fastest: The equator
    So in fact, on your torus diagram, you could just have left off the blue arrows, as the gravity would be what would keep the torus from falling apart; but the rotation would also be what would keep the gravity from crushing it into a sphere.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +10

      Nikolaj Lepka This is a very valid point. Thanks for the comment :)

    • @lock_ray
      @lock_ray 9 років тому +8

      Nikolaj Lepka I keep seeing this sort of comment everywhere... Yes it's a phantom force, but it still exists, as long as you are in a rotating reference frame. If you're gonna say that centrifugal forces aren't real, then you must think the same for gravity, as in general relativity, it is nothing but a phantom force caused by the curvature of space-time.

    • @felipevasconcelos6736
      @felipevasconcelos6736 8 років тому +1

      It's a pseudoforce, but can be treated like any other force.

    • @DeadPyro96
      @DeadPyro96 8 років тому +1

      Right, but for the sake of simplicity it's absolutely fine to use the term centrifugal force. Hell you can even calculate it. It might be a phantom force, but it's easy to understand and explain and its completely fine to use it in a video like this.

    • @daverobson3084
      @daverobson3084 5 років тому

      Niko L
      Excellent description.

  • @sketchesofpayne
    @sketchesofpayne 9 років тому

    Wonderful episode! I've been wanting to know about this subject for a long time.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому

      sketchesofpayne Glad to be of service

  • @_Mackan
    @_Mackan 5 років тому +1

    I honestly thought this was gonna be a meme video, but it's not and I'm happily surprised.

  • @TimmacTR
    @TimmacTR 9 років тому +3

    Good thing to know! xD
    I'm joking, this was an amazing vid actually, congrats..

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +1

      TimmacTR Cheers, buddy. :)

  • @281_enijahhh2
    @281_enijahhh2 6 років тому +13

    I only clicked this video because of the donut

  • @i_teleported_bread7404
    @i_teleported_bread7404 2 роки тому +1

    "Polar Rings of Fire" sounds like the coolest album ever.

  • @poke-myth6534
    @poke-myth6534 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine the amount of time travel you could do on this planet

  • @OrangeC7
    @OrangeC7 7 років тому +9

    DARN IT! Now I'm hungry again... :'(

  • @tennicktenstyl
    @tennicktenstyl 8 років тому +7

    There are billions upon billions of planets in that universe. Do donut planets exist?

    • @THEADVANCEDGAMERTAG
      @THEADVANCEDGAMERTAG 7 років тому +2

      it wouldn't be possible

    • @tennicktenstyl
      @tennicktenstyl 7 років тому

      THE ADVANCED GAMER why?

    • @THEADVANCEDGAMERTAG
      @THEADVANCEDGAMERTAG 7 років тому +2

      For a fact, Use your tiny brain to think of common sense :)

    • @THEADVANCEDGAMERTAG
      @THEADVANCEDGAMERTAG 7 років тому +2

      Also, A piece of rock the shape of a donut is incredibly stupid, Gravity and multiple forces would be acting upon an object creating an imperfect sphere. If there were a donut shaped planet, It would crumble and collapse to the center slowly forming a sphere due to the laws of physics, specifically gravity

    • @tennicktenstyl
      @tennicktenstyl 7 років тому +2

      THE ADVANCED GAMER fuck you.

  • @rohanpandey2037
    @rohanpandey2037 8 років тому

    This is some really cool speculation!

  • @chocolatecrud
    @chocolatecrud 7 років тому

    I can't even explain how much I love this video

  • @Ze_Taco_Guy
    @Ze_Taco_Guy 6 років тому +4

    Sooo, Halos are possible? (From the Halo games)

    • @slinkerdeer
      @slinkerdeer 6 років тому +3

      Provided the material you built it out of was strong enough (stronger than anything we currently know of). Then yes, it is easily possible

    • @Pheatan
      @Pheatan 6 років тому +1

      Actually the main problem isnt strength its the ammount of material. You would need most of a planets worth of metal just to make it let alone make the sytem to rotate it to the speed for the inertial force to pkant you to the wall

    • @slinkerdeer
      @slinkerdeer 6 років тому

      If we had discovered a material to use for the construction, then we would have access to all the limitless resources that exist in space. Also by that point we would have figured out artificial gravity. Because if we had the *knowledge* the build such a construction, we would have the ability with no doubt.

  • @ilittlemonster22
    @ilittlemonster22 8 років тому +3

    What about Halo style ring world's?

    • @slinkerdeer
      @slinkerdeer 6 років тому

      He explained already that ring shaped planets are not possible due to the thickness difference in height and depth, It would need to be built via artificial means. So, naturaly not possible, non-natural, possible with a strong enough material.

  • @prufrockrocks79
    @prufrockrocks79 2 роки тому

    Such an interesting channel!

  • @JaesadaSrisuk
    @JaesadaSrisuk 7 років тому

    Wow. A satellite orbiting a torus-shaped planet would be a truly beautiful sight when sped up. Fascinating video and subject matter!

  • @Richard_is_cool
    @Richard_is_cool 8 років тому +13

    SciShow just made a video like yours, only worse.

    • @RavenclawSeer
      @RavenclawSeer 8 років тому +4

      +Richard S. I wish they didn't. They didn't go into quite as much detail and dumbed it down.

    • @ChrisCrash043
      @ChrisCrash043 8 років тому +1

      +Richard S. Actually, I'm glad they did that video.. without it I wouldn't have found this channel or at least not yet^^

    • @Richard_is_cool
      @Richard_is_cool 8 років тому +2

      +ChrisCrash043 Yes, possibly :). Although I first saw him at Xidnaf's a day earlier.

  • @vaughn1044
    @vaughn1044 8 років тому +83

    It The Moon was a donut, I would steal a NASA spaceship and eat it and record of me eating moon. I probably encounter an alien eating moon.

    • @AltoSilver
      @AltoSilver 6 років тому +2

      Mystical Moon Pies! Yes I had to make that joke.

    • @whydoesanyoneelserespondto7693
      @whydoesanyoneelserespondto7693 6 років тому +3

      Mystical Well you would have metal poop.

    • @solvillamichel760
      @solvillamichel760 6 років тому +1

      The moon is not made of cheese! I have told this to many people and they still not understand plz omg!

    • @ziyah8345
      @ziyah8345 6 років тому

      Mystical but it's very impossible to steal a rocket. Who wouldn't notice gauge rocket taking off in the middle of the night?

    • @ziyah8345
      @ziyah8345 6 років тому

      Sol Villa Michel it said donut

  • @GiLMGaming
    @GiLMGaming 9 років тому

    Love your videos man they are very interesting and fun to watch .

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому

      GiLM Glad to hear. Thanks for the kind words.

    • @GiLMGaming
      @GiLMGaming 9 років тому +1

      Artifexian One thing I am wondering about. Is it possible to keep the atmosphere on a ring world like halo. The reason I dont think its possible is because the rings centrifugal force would make the air just flow off the side.

    • @LeDingueDeJeuxVideos
      @LeDingueDeJeuxVideos 5 років тому

      @@GiLMGaming This is unlikely indeed. You'd need something more akin to a closed tunnel with windows to let light through.

  • @caityreads8070
    @caityreads8070 8 років тому +2

    I'm sold. I've been wanting to have an interesting feature of a fantasy world for D&D for quite some time, and this is by far the most interesting concept I've seen. GG!

    • @jameswilkes6091
      @jameswilkes6091 8 років тому +1

      +Northern Fried Chicken Good luck!
      By the way I'm interested why you have the Northern counties of England on your picture, which one are you from?

    • @caityreads8070
      @caityreads8070 8 років тому

      James Wilkes Cheshire, the southern most of them unfortunately. That I could, I'd sooner live up in the Lake District or York.

    • @jameswilkes6091
      @jameswilkes6091 8 років тому

      Northern Fried Chicken
      South Yorkshire here, I've always called Cumbria "The Land of the Forsaken" purely down to how miserable the weather is there, purely in jest of course. :)

  • @diegovera2507
    @diegovera2507 7 років тому +15

    centrifugal is not a force ((:
    centripetal is a force ((:

    • @wodell586
      @wodell586 6 років тому +3

      whoa there, it's called angular momentum

    • @onemadscientist7305
      @onemadscientist7305 6 років тому +3

      Well actually, in a rotating reference frame, centrifugal (+coriolis) forces are a thing. But some might argue that this is kind of cheating and that they're only virtual forces.

  • @Lucas72928
    @Lucas72928 9 років тому

    It's really cool to see how many comments you reply to. Keep up the good work!

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +2

      LucasFlecoRepe I try my best.

  • @willnash7907
    @willnash7907 9 років тому

    Nice work, Id' like to see more content about strange and interesting planet shapes.
    :)

  • @FelkniaMusic
    @FelkniaMusic 9 років тому

    That was incredibly interesting. Thank you Tormund.

  • @l3ete1geuse
    @l3ete1geuse 7 років тому

    Found out about torus planets on scishow. I wanted to get more info so I googled toroid planet and this popped up. Thank you so much.

  • @beatrix1120
    @beatrix1120 8 років тому

    Loved the video. This is my kind of science.

  • @pixooooo
    @pixooooo 9 років тому

    This is such a great video I have problems describing how much it blew my mind.
    Thank you very much!

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +1

      Peter Pokojny No problems. Glad I could induce a bit of cranial rupturing. :)

  • @ri_v
    @ri_v 7 років тому +1

    a friend linked me to your channel and i am absolutely hooked. i was honestly expecting much less detail than this, it's amazing to see the amount of work you put in to making this, so thanks for some quality content. onto the main question i have, tho - if there's an L0 at the centre of the toroid and a lower gravity in the surrounding realms, is a superstructure connecting both edges of the toroid even remotely viable? would the differences in rotational speed screw the system up..?

  • @elaztic
    @elaztic 7 років тому

    Thanks this helped me alot

  • @lock_ray
    @lock_ray 9 років тому

    Awesome! I had never even heard of this before!
    I like planets and I like topology, so this is just perfect!

  • @strategossable1366
    @strategossable1366 6 років тому

    This was really interesting :)

  • @dilo19000
    @dilo19000 8 років тому +1

    This sounds like it would be an amazing concept to play with.

  • @shroomyesc
    @shroomyesc 8 років тому +1

    In the part about centrifugal force and stuff, it really should've been mentioned that that's why the earth is not a perfect sphere and is "fatter" at the equator, and that there is a star which is two times wider than it is long or so because of spinning.

  • @emilv.3693
    @emilv.3693 3 роки тому

    Artefexian has truly mastered the art of thumbnails

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 4 роки тому +1

    Fascinating. I'd always thought that it would be impossible for a planet to form into a torus and be stable.
    1:22 But there's no such thing as centrifugal force. It's an illusion due to being in a frame which is not inertial.

  • @jaytea3085
    @jaytea3085 6 років тому

    this is sooo coool!

  • @paulflute
    @paulflute 8 років тому +1

    love it..
    took me a moment to figure out why hula hoops would be made of tin..
    and i love the taurus eart.. but you also pronounce it earth sometimes..

  • @meangreenbean3582
    @meangreenbean3582 8 років тому

    You just earned a sub

  • @FuryOmega
    @FuryOmega 9 років тому +1

    What a phenomenally weird idea! Thanks for the explanation.

  • @CZPC
    @CZPC 8 років тому +1

    This is really intresting. I was wierded out by the title because I didnt know donut type planets existed. Hopefully when we meet ailens they would live on one of these.

    • @jameswilkes6091
      @jameswilkes6091 8 років тому +1

      +DragonOnZap23 They can't exist naturally, the video said so. If there ever was one it'd have to be artificial, and that would need an inordinate amount of scientific knowledge and resources.

  • @Supergamerp
    @Supergamerp 7 років тому

    I love your videos please make a do a top 10 games you shod play

  • @JayFolipurba
    @JayFolipurba 9 років тому

    That was amazingly interesting. Never before has my mind dared to come up with such madness. I actually wanted to sleep today, I think I might rather... think, about what you've shared with us.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому +1

      JayFolipurba Meh, who needs sleep :P Glad you enjoyed

  • @GoldenGrenadier
    @GoldenGrenadier 6 років тому +1

    This reminds me of the ringularity theory about black holes having a ring of infinite density at their core instead of a point.

  • @321b_productions
    @321b_productions Рік тому +1

    Me: Clicks on this video
    Also me: Realizes that I want a donut because I just saw one

  • @luciformcaim
    @luciformcaim 6 років тому

    i needed to know this

  • @GamerZapu
    @GamerZapu 8 років тому

    You scienced the hell out of this.

  • @Zb5141
    @Zb5141 7 років тому

    This is the greatest question anyone has ever asked.

  • @joshuasettlemyer3672
    @joshuasettlemyer3672 7 років тому

    i love this video

  • @coleroyer4789
    @coleroyer4789 7 років тому

    very good video i heard about donut worlds on scishow space but that wasnt good enough

  • @bloodypommelstudios7144
    @bloodypommelstudios7144 4 роки тому +1

    Really interesting, never considered the exotic moon orbits before.

  • @flikkeringlightz7472
    @flikkeringlightz7472 4 роки тому

    I need to watch this again because you speak so quickly that i cant follow this complicated stuff... But it sounds Amazing!!!

  • @TheJklgamer
    @TheJklgamer 9 років тому +1

    Your videos are super awesome and very interesting. I nver imagened something like a Donutworld could exist.

    • @Artifexian
      @Artifexian  9 років тому

      TheJklgamer Emphasis on "could". Theoretically possible; practically extremely improbable.