That might be a good idea, do you have a guide you can recommend to others should someone would want to pursue. Is it with opencore? Can you install hackintosh as a VM on proxmox?
Hi, it seems there is a new brother from this one(FU02). It's not completely fanless, more like semi-passive, but it seems to have potential as an updated version, with better connectivity and more modern processors. It is called FU03 under topton brand in aliexpress (I don't know if it's marketed under other brands or there are more variants of similar chassis). It comes with Ryzen 8845hs, 7640hs or 7540u.
I am liking it also! That is nice thanks for sharing: Here is a link for others to check out. I bet you could possible run it fanless mode by not plugging in the fan cable?! Looks very similar with the heatsink design. Or if fan is so low in noise that it is hardly noticeable it is a decent upgrade. The GPU 780m graphics alone kicks the pants off this one! www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806407007290.html
Since it is very new, there are few user reviews yet. But they say it is silent. I asked at the Topton store and they told me that the fan is replaceable, so I suppose it can be disconnected. Even so, I don't know if it would be advisable at least in the top-of-the-range processor and less so in warm environments and intensive use. They also told me that the CPU temperature of 45ºC - but not confirmed by users yet - above which the fan starts to spin at minimum revolutions cannot be altered. Having control over the fan curve, voltages and powers states in BIOS would be a dream come true and very useful. I don't know nothing about but there si still some hope. Over time I suppose more details will be known. I suppose too small home-made alterations can be made to better adapt it to a passive profile. Cheers.
@@xec467 Yes, it looks really like it could be a great silent mini pc. I have ordered one with the 7540u. It should be fast enough for everything I need.
@@knofi7052 Great!. On paper it seems like a very good option. The 6-core of the 7th generation as powerful as an 8-core of previous generations in raw CPU power. Without a doubt, there is more than enough power for desktop tasks. Let us know what you think after test it. And if the fan is standard or custom-made. Another thing that always worries me in Chinese devices from these not-so-well-known brands is the quality of the components and their durability. In the case of the fanless FU02 model, since it has been on the market for several years, there are many more experiences and it seems to have turned out to be quite reliable. I don't know if you could tell us what model and brand of motherboard is reported in Windows or Linux. Cheers.
@@xec467 I have got it yesterday. It's smaller than I thought but the quality seems to be really okay. I bought it with 512GB SSD and 32GB memory, the memory is from Crucial the SSD noname. The BIOS has many options although I wasn't able to to find out which key let's me to the boot menu, yet. There was one problem when I tried look into the PStep settings because afterwards the pc didn't react anymore. However, I just I needed to unplug the battery to reset the CMOS. I am quite happy with the pc because it can be configured to be totally quiet and even fast. I can change it to many predefined TDP values, can even manually set the CPU Package Power (PPT) and the fan settings. So everything is quite good in my eyes. I have done some tests: Cinebench 2024 (25°C room) 54W TDP: makes no sense 45W TDP (default setting): MC: 565 (85.5°C fan noisy) SC: 53 (65°C fan audible) 28W TDP: MC: 533 (84°C fan noisy) SC: 53 (65°C fan audible) 15W TDP(25-30W PPT): MC: 498 (67°C fan audible) SC: 53 (65°C fan audible) 15W PPT(manually): MC: 379 (52°C fan silent) SC: 52 (65°C fan audible) 10W PPT(manually): MC: 231 (47°C fan not running or completely quiet) SC: 48 (55°C fan silent) 17W PPT(manually, no core perf. boost): MC: 337 (55°C fan completely quiet) SC: 37 (46°C fan completely quiet) 17W PPT(manually, no core perf. boost, no fan): after 10 minutes: MC: 63°C SC: 52°C 15W TDP(no fan): after 5 minutes: MC: 82°C SC: 84°C (after a minute) 25W PPT(manually, no core perf. boost): MC: 480 SC: 37 The TDP settings means that the PPT can be much higher. The CPU Package Power on idle is between 3.5 and 4.5W which is really very low. I think, as you can see in the results, the default TDP setting is too high if you want to have it quiet and cool. One problem is that for reaching the core performance boost the fan is needed and will be audible. So you have to sacrifice either noise and heat, or SC or MC performance. Anyway, I still think it has a quite impressive performance and you can chose what you prefer!😉
I bought one taking advantage of 11.11 and promotional codes added by the store that day, but 5825U one. Place an $8 or $9 aluminum radiator on top helps to passively lower the maximum CPU temperature by 4 or 5ºC. Also adding a small heatsink to the disk helps, but even better is leaving the front and/or back covers open. In my case, in a desktop environment, dust is not a problem.
It's a small electric screw driver not an impact driver, would not effect the threads at all. I have put together and taken apart several computers with it. Thanks for the fun comment!
@wisebuyreviews you can literally see the metal shavings in the threads in your video. But sure thing 👍. Sorry for interacting in the comments, as it's good for the algorithm which is counter productive to my comment. CURSE YOU GOOGLE ALGORITHM! 😭 RIP my sanity
I show the power consumption of the power brick connected to this computer beneath the monitor. on that meter there, it's a two plug power strip with black and white lcd screen showing power output That is what that number means. You see it hit a high of about 45-50 watts, as low as 10-14 watts, and maybe average with several things running at 30 watts.
@@wisebuyreviews When you're talking about PCs its best to use Celsius as to not be as confusing. about 48c (118F) is the start when temps start to burn your hand after holding for a bit. 125F (51c)ish would burn even faster if you could even touch it for long at all or maby that's 55c idk
Nice, this would make a good hackintosh if one wanted. With 64gb ram and 2-4tb drive is a nice alternative to the mac mini 2018 which is a tad slower.
That might be a good idea, do you have a guide you can recommend to others should someone would want to pursue. Is it with opencore? Can you install hackintosh as a VM on proxmox?
Hi, it seems there is a new brother from this one(FU02). It's not completely fanless, more like semi-passive, but it seems to have potential as an updated version, with better connectivity and more modern processors.
It is called FU03 under topton brand in aliexpress (I don't know if it's marketed under other brands or there are more variants of similar chassis). It comes with Ryzen 8845hs, 7640hs or 7540u.
I am liking it also! That is nice thanks for sharing: Here is a link for others to check out. I bet you could possible run it fanless mode by not plugging in the fan cable?! Looks very similar with the heatsink design. Or if fan is so low in noise that it is hardly noticeable it is a decent upgrade. The GPU 780m graphics alone kicks the pants off this one! www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806407007290.html
Since it is very new, there are few user reviews yet. But they say it is silent. I asked at the Topton store and they told me that the fan is replaceable, so I suppose it can be disconnected. Even so, I don't know if it would be advisable at least in the top-of-the-range processor and less so in warm environments and intensive use.
They also told me that the CPU temperature of 45ºC - but not confirmed by users yet - above which the fan starts to spin at minimum revolutions cannot be altered. Having control over the fan curve, voltages and powers states in BIOS would be a dream come true and very useful. I don't know nothing about but there si still some hope. Over time I suppose more details will be known.
I suppose too small home-made alterations can be made to better adapt it to a passive profile.
Cheers.
@@xec467 Yes, it looks really like it could be a great silent mini pc. I have ordered one with the 7540u. It should be fast enough for everything I need.
@@knofi7052 Great!. On paper it seems like a very good option. The 6-core of the 7th generation as powerful as an 8-core of previous generations in raw CPU power. Without a doubt, there is more than enough power for desktop tasks.
Let us know what you think after test it. And if the fan is standard or custom-made. Another thing that always worries me in Chinese devices from these not-so-well-known brands is the quality of the components and their durability. In the case of the fanless FU02 model, since it has been on the market for several years, there are many more experiences and it seems to have turned out to be quite reliable. I don't know if you could tell us what model and brand of motherboard is reported in Windows or Linux. Cheers.
@@xec467 I have got it yesterday. It's smaller than I thought but the quality seems to be really okay. I bought it with 512GB SSD and 32GB memory, the memory is from Crucial the SSD noname. The BIOS has many options although I wasn't able to to find out which key let's me to the boot menu, yet. There was one problem when I tried look into the PStep settings because afterwards the pc didn't react anymore. However, I just I needed to unplug the battery to reset the CMOS. I am quite happy with the pc because it can be configured to be totally quiet and even fast. I can change it to many predefined TDP values, can even manually set the CPU Package Power (PPT) and the fan settings. So everything is quite good in my eyes. I have done some tests:
Cinebench 2024 (25°C room)
54W TDP: makes no sense
45W TDP (default setting): MC: 565 (85.5°C fan noisy) SC: 53 (65°C fan audible)
28W TDP: MC: 533 (84°C fan noisy) SC: 53 (65°C fan audible)
15W TDP(25-30W PPT): MC: 498 (67°C fan audible) SC: 53 (65°C fan audible)
15W PPT(manually): MC: 379 (52°C fan silent) SC: 52 (65°C fan audible)
10W PPT(manually): MC: 231 (47°C fan not running or completely quiet) SC: 48 (55°C fan silent)
17W PPT(manually, no core perf. boost): MC: 337 (55°C fan completely quiet) SC: 37 (46°C fan completely quiet)
17W PPT(manually, no core perf. boost, no fan): after 10 minutes: MC: 63°C SC: 52°C
15W TDP(no fan): after 5 minutes: MC: 82°C SC: 84°C (after a minute)
25W PPT(manually, no core perf. boost): MC: 480 SC: 37
The TDP settings means that the PPT can be much higher.
The CPU Package Power on idle is between 3.5 and 4.5W which is really very low.
I think, as you can see in the results, the default TDP setting is too high if you want to have it quiet and cool. One problem is that for reaching the core performance boost the fan is needed and will be audible. So you have to sacrifice either noise and heat, or SC or MC performance. Anyway, I still think it has a quite impressive performance and you can chose what you prefer!😉
28:44 ...it seems that your Drive Temperature was quite high!
I bought one taking advantage of 11.11 and promotional codes added by the store that day, but 5825U one. Place an $8 or $9 aluminum radiator on top helps to passively lower the maximum CPU temperature by 4 or 5ºC. Also adding a small heatsink to the disk helps, but even better is leaving the front and/or back covers open. In my case, in a desktop environment, dust is not a problem.
Great work.
Get one before those tariffs hit ;)
Watch them add the tariffs and keep everything else they make money from. Thanks guys we had way more than we need so take it ... said nobody ever.
RIP those screws/threads. That grinding sound is a reason to not use those electric screwdrivers. 🤮
It's a small electric screw driver not an impact driver, would not effect the threads at all. I have put together and taken apart several computers with it. Thanks for the fun comment!
@wisebuyreviews you can literally see the metal shavings in the threads in your video. But sure thing 👍.
Sorry for interacting in the comments, as it's good for the algorithm which is counter productive to my comment. CURSE YOU GOOGLE ALGORITHM! 😭 RIP my sanity
@@travisholt92 I love the comment haha they should have made the steel stronger! :)
Awesome explanation. Ive linked Bitget wallet using this recovery token: (basket ethics arch lend brother credit supply poverty borrow deer treat guitar). Can I migrate Solana into Kraken?
I don't know.
what is power consumption on plug
I show the power consumption of the power brick connected to this computer beneath the monitor. on that meter there, it's a two plug power strip with black and white lcd screen showing power output That is what that number means. You see it hit a high of about 45-50 watts, as low as 10-14 watts, and maybe average with several things running at 30 watts.
@@wisebuyreviews thank you
when u say its 125 deg u mean f not c right lol ?
Fahrenheit, yes. A nice hot shower is like 110 Fahrenheit. 110 Celsius is boiling temperature would have burned my hand.
@@wisebuyreviews When you're talking about PCs its best to use Celsius as to not be as confusing. about 48c (118F) is the start when temps start to burn your hand after holding for a bit. 125F (51c)ish would burn even faster if you could even touch it for long at all or maby that's 55c idk
Good tip!