Budget 10-Bit Monitor for VIDEO EDITING?

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @thomasfransson
    @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +10

    📢 ARE YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR CURRENT MONITOR? 🖥️📺

    • @EveryThingTechet
      @EveryThingTechet 3 роки тому +1

      I need to get mine calibrated. It would be great if the thumbnail could be a little more click baity.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      @@EveryThingTechet Haha!
      Good point, will see if I can change it.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      @@EveryThingTechet True, calibration can make a huge difference.

    • @deckerhayden5139
      @deckerhayden5139 3 роки тому

      I guess I'm kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good website to watch newly released tv shows online ?

    • @mysterycrimearcade
      @mysterycrimearcade 3 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson thank you for your video! Im thinking on it... i like the monitor but idk how to calibrate it... Some help?

  • @premiumturkish
    @premiumturkish 2 роки тому +48

    I think there is enough room on UA-cam for such a quality person like you. I hope you would keep going.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you, thats very kind of you to say.

    • @jirehla-ab1671
      @jirehla-ab1671 Рік тому

      ​​@@thomasfranssoni regret buying 27 inch downgrading to 24 inch , since the monitor top to bottom was big for me.

  • @brucekennedy5274
    @brucekennedy5274 2 роки тому +3

    Good for you. I’m impressed you pinpointed just what you needed without paying silly money on extra size or resolution you didn’t need.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +1

      Well, we are talking budget about monitors. And your deliverables dictate your needs ;)

  • @nadtz
    @nadtz 2 роки тому +3

    I got an Asus Proart PA278QV for very similar reasons. I got extremely lucky with a Target deal + gift certificate so it only cost me like $50 out of pocket. I've been very happy with it for my photo editing and video editing needs even without 10 bit, HDR and all those other bells and whistles.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +2

      That's a great deal!
      Unless you deliver HDR video you don't need that.

  • @mahdinerd
    @mahdinerd 2 роки тому +3

    Another top level content from Thomas, keep up the good work 🔥👏🏻

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much!
      Glad to hear that it was helpful.

  • @hitthesynth6417
    @hitthesynth6417 3 роки тому +9

    Nice video but a bit misleading as 10bit would need a pro GPU to work. Yes a 10bit panel is usually more precise than a 8bit panel because more capable at the end, but to display true 10bit UI you would need a pro gpu or a decklink as normal GTX and RX card are locked by manufacturer (you can select 10bit in Nvidia panel but it won't display it in let's say photoshop for exemple)

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +3

      True, to get the very most out of it, if working in colorspaces beyond rec.709 something like a DeckLink Mini is worth investing in.
      I've been considering making a video about this next step in the future.
      Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it.

    • @therealb888
      @therealb888 2 роки тому

      I didn't know that manufacturers lock their skus like that beyond the mining issue. Locking 10bit from using it's complete potential is such a dirty thing to do.

  • @kontofs3452
    @kontofs3452 3 роки тому +9

    Hey Thomas cool video! Acutally monitors in this price-range are not true 10-bit displays. It's 8bit+FRC - you can google it easly what that means. Anyway keep up good quality videos!

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      Thats true. It's not quite the same.
      But a viable budget option.
      Thanks for commenting.

    • @kontofs3452
      @kontofs3452 3 роки тому +2

      @@thomasfransson ofc it is! I own benq bl2711u (~$400) and I'm super happy :) Next stop is SW270c which is $800 cost and 8bit+FRC still but the true 10-bit display is not that important as great color accuracy. Channel "ArtIsRight" explains that pretty well :)

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      Nice!
      Thats so true, color accuracy first.
      Once you reach a certain level, upgrading becomes more of an investment than a purchase 😅
      Thanks for the tip, will check it out.

  • @gregoryedwards8918
    @gregoryedwards8918 3 роки тому +2

    Interesting and helpful!!
    BenQ PD 2700Q next week! Thanks so much for the info Thomas.

  • @pietroisolan1675
    @pietroisolan1675 Рік тому

    Great video! I turned around UA-cam, forums, articles, friends exactly about this dilemma! Finally, 2 days ago i bought on amazon benQ pd2705q, waiting for it Wednesday!! so happy to ear from you the same path! Pietro from Italy

  • @Sven.Bornemark
    @Sven.Bornemark 3 роки тому +6

    10-bit explained very well. Thank you! :-)

  • @roberthoeglund
    @roberthoeglund 2 роки тому

    Funny I ran in to your video, since I’m at the moment looking for a monitor. Hopefully, but probably not, my Mac Studio Max shows up tomorrow 😊
    Great video as always. Love your lighting and mood. Cheers!

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому

      It's a small world!
      That machine seems amazing, hope to see some new videos from you soon.
      Thanks

  • @JoaquimGonsalves
    @JoaquimGonsalves Рік тому

    Thank you so much! I'm definitely adding this one to my buying list.

  • @jalfonso07
    @jalfonso07 Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing this info Thomas!

  • @MrRadioGypsy
    @MrRadioGypsy 2 роки тому +1

    Tom Fransson:
    If you do not see the same color grade and contrast on your own video that you uploaded to UA-cam on that SAME monitor, and if it doesn't look the same afterwards seeing it on UA-cam; then it isn't your monitor's fault.
    What is the problem?
    The compression algorithm employed by UA-cam.
    Another thing:
    Nothing all wrong with using a much larger monitor.
    The finer details/mistakes are more noticed and camera lens issues (color aberrations/focus/etc) get to be more acutely visible.
    If one goes to all the trouble and expense to make content; why should small issues be allowed to become noticed if enough people seeing your work are using larger monitors?
    And they do.
    Unless they aren't glaring mistakes.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +2

      There's a lot of reasons why the material might look different, like you said - compression plays a role. If you upload the same file to different platforms it will often look different between those platforms. Then there's color space of the viewing display, calibration level of the screen you are grading vs viewing the content on. Along with screen type.
      There’s people grading on monitors that won't show you the full rec.709 gammut or in the case of Apple users - they're stuck with P3 gammut while the rest of the world use rec.709. Aaand a lot of other things.
      When it comes to the size of the screen, in this particular video where I talk about a budget friendly monitor for video editing, one of the arguments was to favor a better display over a larger one that didn't offer the same level of performance.
      There's also a number of things to take into consideration when it comes to the screen size apart from the distance between the screen and operator. And available space. (Atm I have 51" of screen area on my desk I find it strainingat the distance I'm at)
      But let's not forget - even if you buy a super duper 32" display 80-90% of that display will show the GUI of you NLE and not the image you are editing or grade. A lot of industry monitors for color grading is still 24" monitors, but they have the footage in full screen on that monitor.
      Then again, if your main output is web-based content for youtube and other social platforms, more than 70% of that content will be watched on a tiny smartphone display. In rec.709 even if the smartphones have oled/AMOLED display capable of displaying wider gammuts than the rec.709 being used on all those platforms.
      So when all comes down, you don't really need a super duper monitor necessarily. As long as it's capable of displaying the gammut of your deliverables and if it can be calibrated- along with having a decent contrast ratio. You should be fine.
      Naturally the same logic applies if you are delivering things like HDR content and so on. Your chain should meet the necessary standards and requirements for that color space, resolutionand so on.
      I hope this clears up any confusion in my video. An update on this is long overdue and I was hoping to get a new monitor for this. But sadly that didn't happen yet.
      Have a great day and thank you for swinging by.

  • @TrainMePlease
    @TrainMePlease 3 роки тому +2

    I edit 8 bit footage. Which monitor would you recommend?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      I would recommend the same BenQ or something similar. Having a good calibrted monitor will help you correct and grade your footage with better results and less guessing.

    • @TrainMePlease
      @TrainMePlease 3 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson I thought you might say that. Thank you. Does Ben Q have any model mostly similar but slightly more affordable? Do they have a twin of this one but that does not support 10-bit footage?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      This model isn't their newest so check the prices, you might be able to find one at a better price than I did when I bought mine. Maybe there's a smaller 24" version too.
      I would suggest to get something like these monitors as you might find yourself outgrow a more basic monitor very quickly and in need to upgrade again. Same if you upgrade your camera.
      I worked on a 24" Dell Ultrasharp, they are decent monitors but I outgrew as I got more used to and better at editing and color correction.
      So I would still say, be patient and look around. The Benq are among the most affordable options out there. If you want anything less you will end up with a monitor not made for editing. Like Dell Ultrasharp and other IPS monitors from brands with good reputation.

    • @TrainMePlease
      @TrainMePlease 3 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson in the same price range (marginally cheaper) is the "ASUS PA247CV 23.8' ProArt Professional Monitor, FHD (1920 x 1080), IPS, 100% sRGB, Calman Verified". The BenQ would be better, wouldn't it?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      ​@@TrainMePlease Pick the one that makes the most sense to you if there isn't a huge price difference.
      The only thing I can add is the fact that 24" might feel a bit small after a while and you might find yourself wanting to upgrade to a 27" anyway.
      In that sense the BenQ will probably serve you longer and end up being a cheaper option in the long run. Even if it's marginally more expensive today.
      So don't just look at your present needs but try gazing a year or two ahead.

  • @kozykev
    @kozykev Рік тому

    Exactly what I need, great video thanks

  • @paulbeckmann
    @paulbeckmann 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the great review! Veryt helpful!

  • @juansalenko
    @juansalenko 3 роки тому

    Köpte Benq PD3200 och din video var till viss hjälp. Satt och redigerade på min laptop på slutet vilket var lite drygt. Dina videor är snygga för övrigt, bra jobbat

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому

      Tack, hoppas du är nöjd med din nya monitor.

  • @edjonacademy7435
    @edjonacademy7435 2 роки тому

    Congs budy, am also on the way, learnt something today

  • @awesomeunicorn7322
    @awesomeunicorn7322 Рік тому +1

    Do you have an updated version? Im looking into buying a monitor mainly for graphic design :)

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  Рік тому

      They have a few different series like the designVue and photovue that might be of interest.

  • @GamermeetMemes
    @GamermeetMemes 2 роки тому +2

    what is the difference of hdr 10 bit color?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +1

      To over simplify 10bit represents colors and tonal range. HDR represents exposure or the difference between the darkest and brightest part of an image.
      If you edit and upload/publish hdr or 10bit video then you will need a monitor capable of displaying that standard.
      However if you as an example upload standard 8-bit video to youtube or any other website. Then you will need to set your monitor to 8bit and work in an 8bit environment in order for your material to be displayed properly without showing artifacts like banding or crushed shadows and blown out highlights.

  • @justinhennessy868
    @justinhennessy868 3 роки тому +4

    Absolutely great video everything we set up and explained soooo well!!!
    great work and some advise to keep people engaged a bit more is try to have a little more energy and your energy is what puts energy into the video.
    Thank you very much for the video I truly appreciate it and I'm definitely giving you the like and subscribe

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Justin, I really appreciate the feedback.
      I'll do my best to improve.

  • @oaksoepai
    @oaksoepai 3 роки тому

    Well done 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼hope you get more viewers. Should put the links that where can we buy it

  • @JonasMondrup
    @JonasMondrup 7 місяців тому

    I got dual gaming monitor setup for my Windows desktop PC. I really like taking photos and editing on the gaming panels is not ideal, so I edit on a 15 inch MacBook pro screen, is an IPS but full Retina 8bit screen with perfect accuracy, but I'm slowly leaning towards adding a photo editing monitor to the setup and replacing an old FHD 144hz gaming monitor. I just need a 27inch VESA mount and maybe 4k I'm not sure, this PD2700Q is not a bad option thought! Is hard man I'm stuck in a loop :D

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  7 місяців тому

      Good screens on those macs fo sure!
      If you mainly edit images and video for social media - A decent 8bit monitor will do the job as most social media are still 8bit platforms including youtube (which handles other color spaces, but 8bit sRGB and rec.709 are still the standard) So unless you have the need for 10bit perhaps a more affordable 8bit or 8bit+FRC monitor and a calibration tool will give you the results you are looking for.

  • @Stvcxnn
    @Stvcxnn 27 днів тому

    Great Video! I Need one for my study i recently started. On Amazon there’s a 4K version of this monitor. Would you consider or recommend to buy this version?

  • @FilmGradeIII
    @FilmGradeIII 3 роки тому

    Nice setup! Love the table❤️

  • @joshpankey1184
    @joshpankey1184 2 роки тому +1

    Are you still using this monitor and if so how's it working out?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому

      I am. It still works great, almost everything I do, commercial and my own projects are cut and color graded on this monitor and I haven't thought about getting another one yet.

  • @mtmccornack
    @mtmccornack 9 місяців тому

    I recently (literally yesterday) got a new monitor for all my photos and video editing... My budget was close to yours and I had to ask myself the same question. Color accurate 1440 vs 4k affordable? I ended up leaning on color accurate 1440, my only difference is I chose an ultrawide that was nearly in budget so I ponied up an extra 100 and got a Proart ultrawide for 200 under MSRP. So far so good, glad I made the priority color.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  9 місяців тому

      Good choice, resolution won't give you color accuracy

  • @praneeth210
    @praneeth210 2 роки тому

    Very important for me thanks 🤠

  • @gatosoul
    @gatosoul 2 роки тому

    Hi, My experience with BenQ wasn't good, My BenQ SW320 ( $1200 ) just died after 3 years and BenQ doesn't want to fix it "they said is too expensive to fix" thank you for sharing.

  • @ozzythemighty2767
    @ozzythemighty2767 2 роки тому +1

    Should i buy it for Color grading or is there any other i should actually look at before i make my decision?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +1

      It depends on your budget. Theres also slightly newer models I believe. But I'm still happy with mine.

    • @ozzythemighty2767
      @ozzythemighty2767 2 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson thx for the response..may i ask what model your talking about..can't seem to pin point it. thx

  • @kreyati
    @kreyati 3 роки тому +1

    I'm imagining when there was 2 bit image, thing was wonderfull on it

  • @Edin8140
    @Edin8140 3 роки тому +1

    Hi, how does this monitor display a 1080p or 4k movie?. Thanks

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      It's a 16:9 quad hd (QHD) resolution 2560x1440.
      So slightly more details than a regular FHD monitor and not quite as detailed as a 4K display.

  • @valquireveljkovic
    @valquireveljkovic 2 роки тому

    thanks for this!

  • @adelalmansoury
    @adelalmansoury 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks

  • @RunningInSuits
    @RunningInSuits Рік тому

    Great video! I'm debating if I should go with a dual 4k 27" setup or a dual 4k 32" setup. I'd be doing mostly photo and video editing powered by my m1 pro macbook pro.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  Рік тому

      That's a good question.
      I personally prefer to have a more manageable and dedicated view instead of scanning to far from end to end on the screen. And I enjoy being able to have other windows open on the second screen for things like music and other external assets. Without having to lose sight of the project.
      I think it also comes down to viewing distance. I can't remember the numbers
      , but there's guides out there on optimal viewing distance vs screen size.
      When It comes to curved displays, some photographers says that it can be trickier to judge if a horizon is leveled on those. So maybe another thing to take into consideration

  • @HomeGrownMedia
    @HomeGrownMedia 3 роки тому +2

    This monitor is also 75% adobe RBG. I'm struggling to decide if I should get this or the Asus ProArt PA247CV with 75mhz refresh rate (but sadly no 10bit) - although it claims to have slightly better colour accuracy.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      I have never used the ASUS so I'm not able to say how different they are performance wise.
      Do you need Adobe RGB coverage?
      I work in REC.709 and sRGB since I only publish on the web.

    • @HomeGrownMedia
      @HomeGrownMedia 3 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson no I mainly do videos for web so will be using the same. I guess Adobe rbg is just good for printing. My pd2700q is arriving tomorrow hopefully it will be decent 🤞thanks for the review

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      @@HomeGrownMedia nice!
      Congratulations

    • @Roossi03
      @Roossi03 Рік тому

      @@HomeGrownMedia how has it been so far? ☺️

    • @HomeGrownMedia
      @HomeGrownMedia Рік тому

      ​@@Roossi03arrived with a massive crack so I sent it back but I did get a 4k benq monitor 27 inch

  • @mattmellen
    @mattmellen 2 роки тому +1

    How can i get the same thing but in 4K?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +1

      There's monitors like the PD3205Q that might be an option if 4K is a must.

    • @mattmellen
      @mattmellen 2 роки тому +1

      @@thomasfransson thanks so much! Do both have 10-bit viewing capabilities?

  • @KathyXie
    @KathyXie 2 роки тому

    So when you edit 10 bits footage on a 8 bit monitor, you can see color banding that is not there and is just cause by the monitor?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +1

      Yes and no. Banding can be caused by both monitor and color space. However if you are working with 10bit footage with the intent to show it as 8bit rec709 online on a platform like youtube. You should be working in an 8bit rec709 color space and so on. For those situations a 10bit monitor isn't really beneficial.

  • @goatedanime6488
    @goatedanime6488 6 місяців тому

    what settings do you use on the monitor and davinci resolve?

  • @freddymiguelponce
    @freddymiguelponce 3 роки тому +1

    GREAT video!
    Do you have a video where you explain why do you have one monitor vertical? How do you use it?
    Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning
    Have a Productive and Healthy Day!

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you Freddy!
      About the monitor, it actually just ended up like that when I figured out how to get a 27 and a 24" monitor to fit side by side on my desk 😉
      I tried running both horizontal but i almost had to look over my shoulders to see the edges of each monitor.
      But it's actually pretty handy for social media, scrolling when looking for music, typing and reading. I kinda like it now.

    • @freddymiguelponce
      @freddymiguelponce 3 роки тому +2

      @@thomasfransson Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question Thomas!

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +2

      No problem. I would have wondered too 😅

  • @ThisIsAbrarKhan
    @ThisIsAbrarKhan 2 роки тому

    You and your content just awesome. Love from Pakistan ❤️🙏😘

  • @awareness9793
    @awareness9793 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much for your video - May i ask which computer specs do you have (Graphic card, RAM, processor etc)?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you!
      Sure - it's pretty standard, maybe even a bit old today - Intel i7 with 32gb ram and an GTX 1050 TI
      It handles my work so I'm not really looking at upgrading.
      New GPU perhaps, but the prices these days...

  • @juliangigante
    @juliangigante 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Thomas. Just watching this 9 months after you posted. Would you say this is still a good monitor to buy today? Current price is $349. Any other good options under $500 you recommend? If so any 4k ones? I mostly desire a monitor to improve my video color grading process.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому +5

      Hi Julian, it's still a good monitor for grading. It lack some newer features like USB-C connectivity.
      BenQ have a few newer updated models so you could look at those or/and use the specs on this monitor as base value and see what other brands offer that are same or better.
      There's the whole thing with the FRC that could be a potential improvement on a newer monitor. But a true 10bit display with SPI connection is still going to set you back more than $500 unless you find an old used 24" maybe. More professional monitors like the Eizo ColorEdge CG319X ($5,739.00) is on a completely different level than monitors in this price range ;)
      The most important aspect is that the monitor can display the desired color space you will be grading in. Depending on what you deliver REC.709 is the most common color space. Most regular displays only offer sRGB (photography/WEB) and Adobe RGB (mainly used for print work) Monitors like the EIZO
      When it comes to 4K you should probably get a 32" inch or larger to get the benefits of 4K as a monitor on a regular desk viewing distance. But sitting close to a 32" can be a bit straining on your neck depending on your work space layout ;) Panning left to right across the screen and not being able to have everything in view without dropping something and turn your head to find a slider or knob ;)
      Let me know what you end up buying, I've been meaning to do an update on this video next year and I'm curious to see what monitor you end up going with.
      Cheers!

  • @Oopsiedaisyveryfunny
    @Oopsiedaisyveryfunny 13 днів тому +1

    Are you still using this monitor?

  • @bandclanworldwide
    @bandclanworldwide 3 роки тому

    thanks for this vid fam

  • @yourtrustedbrandingarchitect
    @yourtrustedbrandingarchitect 2 роки тому

    I'm very drawn to your vertical monitor to your right. Do you mind telling me what monitor that is please? Thanks

  •  3 роки тому

    Nice, thanks!

  • @dennysmith2291
    @dennysmith2291 2 роки тому

    hi bud quick question. does samsung galaxy tab s7 have a 10bit display 🤔. any advice would be greatly appreciated

  • @RogerBergqvist
    @RogerBergqvist 9 місяців тому

    Bra Engelska för att vara en Svensk. Sjyssst video! 😊

  • @MikaelAtterby
    @MikaelAtterby 3 роки тому +1

    All of a sudden I want a new monitor too...

  • @framedmoments3712
    @framedmoments3712 Рік тому +1

    How much imp is a 10 bit panel

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  Рік тому

      If what you do is web based content and the occasional TV commercial and that kind of thing. You don't need a 10bit monitor.

  • @editsbydaan6048
    @editsbydaan6048 2 роки тому +1

    Very clear and informative video! I am an enthousiast wildlife photographer and I was looking for monitor. I also do some occasional gaming. Is the *Dell* *S2721DGF* also good enough color-wise? From what I could see it has 10-bit (8-bit+FRC) / DCI-P3; HDR10 Would like to know if you could recommend it ! Thanks in advance
    ~ Daan

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому

      Hi Daan, I've not looked at that particular monitors specs. But it probably will do a great job. As long as it supports the types of color spaces you normally work with.
      It's more important that the monitor can display the color space of the final file than using the highest available color space in terms of bitrate and so on.
      I publish all my material on the web so for me 8 bit sRGB and rec.709 is pretty much the only ones I use because of this ;)

    • @editsbydaan6048
      @editsbydaan6048 2 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson Thank you!!

  • @Vinhl3e
    @Vinhl3e Рік тому

    Hi! I don't do anything related to editing. I only use my monitor for daily tasks like surfing the web, watching movies and youtube.... I'm deciding between an 8 bit monitor and an 8 bit + FRC monitor (slightly more expensive, about 10% of the price). Can you tell me for my use, how big is diffrence between 8 bits and 8 bits + FRC? And is it worth the extra 10% of the price?

    • @Vinhl3e
      @Vinhl3e Рік тому

      P/s: I know for sure that 8 bits + FRC is better than 8 bits. It's just that I want to know if the difference is obvious or not. And can the content displayed on the internet and windows take full advantage of 10 bits?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  Рік тому

      The internet is still 99% 8bit
      So if you’re not doing any processing on your computer with an output greater than 8bit there's no need.
      The one exception would be if you're watching movies on your computer and some of those are hdr.

  • @stevenwibowo249
    @stevenwibowo249 3 роки тому

    Great video, Thanks

  • @andyz_w3584
    @andyz_w3584 2 роки тому +1

    great video !!! however, it's really hard to find one on the market. they may be discontinued.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому

      Thanks Andy
      Well, it is getting older. But I just made a quick search on amazon and it's available there if you can order from amazon.

    • @andyz_w3584
      @andyz_w3584 2 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson thank you Tomas.

  • @myfoodcravings6456
    @myfoodcravings6456 9 місяців тому

    I ran to your video. Is it still great to get this monitor this day? Or benq release a new one but similar to this?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  9 місяців тому

      I still use mine, but they have released newer updated versions as usb-c and things have made their way into the monitor market.

  • @rajesha7176
    @rajesha7176 8 місяців тому

    Good Review 👍

  • @NewWebDesign
    @NewWebDesign 2 роки тому

    hey pal love your video quality and grading - great monitor advice as well - im wondering what is your setup? bc it looks like right up there with the best quality ive ever seen

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому

      Oh thank you! Most of my videos are shot on the Fujifilm X-T4 and the Sigma 18-35 lens. I shoot my talking head using the Provia profile. I have a godox SL60W with a softbox and a reflector bounce.
      Microphones I've used is the Boya BY-M1, Rode Lav Go and now more recently I've switched to the Lavalier II from Rode. Editing and grading is done in Premiere. I mostly use film emulation luts and do basic color correction as well as highlight/shadow adjustments.
      Hope this helps.

    • @NewWebDesign
      @NewWebDesign 2 роки тому

      ​@@thomasfransson thanks pal huge help - yeah i run the overlooked fugi xt3 and im ganna check for that picture profile - they had a great sale on it 1k back in the day and at that time it was by far the best video cam --- as far as pre and post production - those luts which ones did you buy? what Codac do you render out in? do you make proxies or anything like render in and out wile editing to smooth out the footage? do you film in h265? i have been driving myself crazy from under espoused and to every mistake in the book making my edits 20 times longer then they need to be - also what is your iso goal and f-stop at? do you under or over exposé? i think that cover it - im ganna subscribe with my other channels as well huge help thank you!!!

  • @rurouni_xyz
    @rurouni_xyz 2 роки тому

    where have u been all my life?! i've been looking for budget 10bit monitors but all of them r too damn expensive.
    even budget 1080p 10bit panel can go a long way instead of dumb 4k which needs expensive pc anyway. native 1080p, 10bit IPS panel is what this world needs for everyone.

  • @sparsh.bharth
    @sparsh.bharth 3 роки тому

    Hey bro i purchased this monitor, what picture mode should I use for accurate color grading rec 709 or srb?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      Nice!
      In short-
      Rec709 mode for rec709 and srgb mode for srgb deliverables.
      I use the darkroom mode a lot as well.
      If you install display pilot you can have the monitor change to your preferred mode when launching a program. Very handy.
      I use the dark room mode a lot to.

    • @sparsh.bharth
      @sparsh.bharth 3 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson okay bro thanks a lot

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      Enjoy your new monitor

  • @Angelo_Paduraru
    @Angelo_Paduraru 3 роки тому

    Great video, very nice monitor!

  • @JimmyOlsson
    @JimmyOlsson 3 роки тому

    Intressant video, Thomas! Ska kolla närmare på 32 tums QHD versionen av denna skärm! Grymt bra ljus och färg i din video. Vad har du för kamera och studioljus i denna videon?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      Det är helt klart ett bra val!
      Jag kör Fujifilm xt4 och Godox SL60W som keylight. Sedan är där bara en 5 in1 reflektor som fill.

  • @digtalawesomegroup9978
    @digtalawesomegroup9978 2 роки тому

    Great advise

  • @Eye4eye007
    @Eye4eye007 3 роки тому

    How can I get FCPX and Capture One onto this monitor if I decided to purchase one?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      If you're on Mac you should be able to run fcpx without any problems. And Capture one works great too.
      The Darkroom Mode on the monitor is excellent for there types of programs.

    • @Eye4eye007
      @Eye4eye007 3 роки тому

      @@thomasfransson oh so I would be connecting my mac to the monitor?
      My apologies brother lol, no idea how it works, but I really want to utilize the 10bit codecs on my xt4.
      Great video btw

  • @Nanthakishore67
    @Nanthakishore67 3 роки тому

    How would you compare this against Asus ProArt monitor?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      I've not tried those monitors, but people seem happy with them.
      I guess it comes down to specific features and price, what monitor fits your needs and workflow the best.

  • @CizzuCizzu
    @CizzuCizzu 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks! Why only 2k ?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      2K monitor?
      Well like I said in the video. I had a budget and I wanted as much performance as possible. And I don't consider 4K as important as color accuracy and being able to work in different color spaces for color grading.
      A 4K monitor with those specs would have been significantly more expensive, especially since it also would have been a 32" monitor to utilize that extra resolution. 4K on a 27" can get very tiny. Just like qhd can look quite course on a 32" display.
      I hope this makes sense.

    • @engineer9528
      @engineer9528 2 роки тому

      What would be the closest 4k 32 inch benq monitor to this one? I am looking for the same as this one in color price-performance for video editing but 4k, 32'' under 1000 USD

  • @dimitrimoonlight
    @dimitrimoonlight 3 роки тому +1

    Can you put link the monitor, please 🙏

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/designer/pd2700q.html

  • @rezatalebshekar
    @rezatalebshekar 2 роки тому

    does it have any 4k version ?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому

      Not this very model, but they have a couple 4K ones as well.

  • @duncandimanche-fr4270
    @duncandimanche-fr4270 3 роки тому

    great video ! you got a new sub !

  • @edge_of_theknife6315
    @edge_of_theknife6315 3 роки тому +1

    there is a 4k model for 500usd so i think i'll go for that

  • @estwern
    @estwern 3 роки тому +1

    offtopic: what chair u use?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      It's called Rungsted. Cheap but quite comfortable.

  • @BennettWilliamson
    @BennettWilliamson 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic!

  • @hrobertb
    @hrobertb 3 роки тому

    What about having a HDR monitor? Do you think that is necessary?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +1

      I don't think it's necessary. Unless you do a lot of HDR post processing.
      In my research I found decent HDR monitors to be quite a step up when it came to price. This is because in order for them to produce a decent HDR image they need to be very bright. And a lot of the budget HDR monitors aren't bright enough. So I think it comes down to your needs and budget.
      I know that some colorists use a Qled tv as a complement for reference HDR content.

    • @petrub27
      @petrub27 3 роки тому

      bullshit, ofc is necessary , you can't afford one, that's a different story; once you see hdr, you just want more; sdr is shit

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому

      😂

  • @dev8996
    @dev8996 3 роки тому

    what about ASUS PROART PA278 QV?

  • @penkatadrums
    @penkatadrums 3 роки тому +1

    Hey guys, thanks for the reveiw. On all spec sheets I've read it's said that the monitor is 8bit+FRC, rather than true 10 bit. Is that true and if so, have you noticed any difference or flickering or what's that really all about? Thanks. I am looking to buy this monitor :)

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  3 роки тому +3

      Hi penkara drums!
      Yes that's true, 8bit and FRC is a budget friendly way to obtain a wider gamut monitor.
      Not all IPS panels are created equal or suited for color critical work. There's a lot of 144Hz IPS monitors on the market now that are not well suited for this.
      And that's why this one stands out along with a few others in this price range.
      Getting a professional or even a semi pro 10bit setup with a real 10bit grading-monitor plus a DeckLink will cost many times more.
      But it also comes down to what type of work and deliverables you are producing/grading on your monitor.
      If you're mainly outputting 8bit REC.709 videos for UA-cam - Then you will have your monitor set to REC.709 when you're grading for best results.
      Grading your work in a different color space than your deliverables (viewing source) might result in/making it difficult to catch banding or blocking on the final file.
      So it all comes down to what type of material and deliverables you are working with and getting a setup that will allow you to view grade in that required standard.
      Personally I only output to UA-cam and other web platforms so this monitor suits me and what I do.
      In a roundabout way it's similar to the difference between sRGB and Adobe RGB and why an image might not look the same once you publish it to the webs (sRGB) if you've edited it another color space.
      Hope this makes sense.
      Thank you.

    • @jclokwork
      @jclokwork 2 роки тому

      8bit+FRC drives my brain crazy. I’ll take 8 bit or true 10 bit any day, but I understand it’s existence.

  • @shoubhiksaha2788
    @shoubhiksaha2788 3 роки тому

    Thanks ☺☺

  • @beeldbuijs1003
    @beeldbuijs1003 10 місяців тому

    As usual, the 8-bit colors are not as blocky as demonstrated in the video. In reality, this is only visible in very specific situations.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  10 місяців тому

      Not quite sure I follow, are you referring to the example pictures illustrating the theoretical difference between 8 and 10 bit? 😅
      Anyway, 8 bit i still very much the norm and compression have improved over the years. But can still cause banding on surfaces with gradients if we are sticking with 8bit footage displayed online.

    • @beeldbuijs1003
      @beeldbuijs1003 10 місяців тому

      @@thomasfransson Yes, but the rainbow that is show as an example will not show visible banding. You know that, I know that, but for the audience it's less obvious.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  10 місяців тому +1

      True, but I think the audience get the general idea. After all it’s about getting information across in a fast matter without sidestepping too far.
      But your point is still valid and I appreciate you bringing it up.

  • @2010Edgars
    @2010Edgars Рік тому

    Iiyama XU2395 is better. 10 bit = 8bit+frc, IPS.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  Рік тому

      Looking at the specs I wouldn't be able to agree.
      I'm not here to start an argument.
      But what I can say is that the PD2700Q (if it's still available on the market these days? Video is pretty old and that monitor was old when I made the video...)
      How ever it is a great monitor for color critical work as it has a rec.709 profile, supports hardware calibration and so forth.
      If people are looking for a budget monitor chances are they are working with 8bit rec.709 footage and won't be utilizing any other gammuts for their deliverables. Something that may not have been communicated super clearly in this video. But at the same time most people know that rec.709 and sRGB are 8 bit color spaces ;)

  • @stradastudio
    @stradastudio 2 роки тому

    You cut yourself short, you should have told us what you thought about it ,I thought you were very interesting the way you were leading up to a point then... Just keep going.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the feedback, I've been meaning to make a follow up video. Looks like it's about time;)

  • @Deerob
    @Deerob Рік тому

    It could be worth the consideration to change the title as it’s misleading.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  Рік тому

      It's kind of an old video, been meaning to make an updated one as I've learned more since then.
      Then again, FRC or 10 bit... Most people looking for budget monitors are probably dealing with rec709 deliveries.

  • @theminiondude
    @theminiondude Рік тому +1

    fyi this is not a true 10bit monitor for those looking to purchase

  • @huberbert
    @huberbert Рік тому

    Sorry, but this monitor is NOT 10 Bit, it is 8 Bit + FRC, which is another level than real 10 Bit

  • @shajinnambiar2000
    @shajinnambiar2000 7 місяців тому

    Sw240

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  7 місяців тому

      Yes, a more recent one.

    • @shajinnambiar2000
      @shajinnambiar2000 7 місяців тому

      @@thomasfransson you recommend that sw240 ?

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  7 місяців тому

      Not used it myself, but the specs looks really good!

  • @winterkat8693
    @winterkat8693 2 роки тому

    bro!! your mouse is on the wrong side.. lol

  • @viahney7200
    @viahney7200 7 місяців тому

    Monitoring in 10bit when you actually intend to upload on youtube means you have no ideas how it will look at the end when you're color-grading.

    • @thomasfransson
      @thomasfransson  7 місяців тому

      That's correct, always monitor in the colorspace of the deliverables