Saint-Saëns: Piano Concerto No.5 - Thibaudet / Concertgebouw Orchestra - Live Concert HD
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Camille Saint-Saens: Pianoconcert nr. 5 in F gr.t., opus 103, 'Het Egyptische'
Koninklijk Concertgebouworkest o.l.v. Andris Nelsons
Jean-Yves Thibaudet, piano
Opgenomen 16 november 2011, Concertgebouw Amsterdam
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Camille Saint-Saens: Piano concerto no. 5 in F major., opus 103, 'The Egyptian'
Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra conducted by Andris Nelsons
Jean-Yves Thibaudet, piano
Recorded the 16th of November 2011, Concertgebouw Amsterdam
Why is this piece less famous and less performed than the other ones? It's truely magnificent
Good question! Each of five piano concerti of Saint Saens is a masterpiece and why all five aren't lodged in the standard repertoire baffles me (a mere music lover) as much as it does a pianist friend of mine (a retired professional).
I was wondering the same.
YES.
I think the main reason why this piece is less performed as others is because that it’s really hard to perform well in finale part. You need to have a good communication and chemistry with the orchestra. You can find out that many performers can’t match with each other. The tempo thing in this piece is a massive work.
In my experience none of the Saint Saens piano concertos appears on concert programmes except the famous No.2. He went out of favour in the 1950s and has never fully returned. A Saint-Saens concerto on the programme won't draw the punters in the same way as a Beethoven or Tchaikovsky one. The First Cello Concerto and Third Violin Concerto have remained in the repertoire to some extent, but more on disc than in halls. The Organ Symphony has also benefited from good recordings since it's awkward to stage. So I wasn't familiar with this concerto at all, but very glad I listened to it (a recommendation from Dave Hurwitz).
이집트 협주곡을 알게 되어 행복하네요.
처음부터 끝까지 하나 버릴 거 없이 아름답고 흥미롭습니다.🥰🥰❤❤❤
one of the most magical beginnings to a concerto ever
Jean-Yves Thibaudet is truly a master on this masterpiece; he brings the passion to his teacher Aldo Ciccolini's precision. This is an unrivaled performance.
I agree, but of late he has started looking like a plastic surgeon's clown. What happens to these people?
@@andrewpetersen5272 Ah, my friend, you know vanity of vanities.
@@andrewpetersen5272
It happens when one settles in LA.
One of the best piano concertos. Quite a shame it is not performed more often.
Think too may solosists fear it.
Think too may solosists fear it.
Agree with bcing75
I think so, why, why ?
I agree with you !
That final climactic bit on the piano is absolutely incredible. Thibaudet's hands are just a blur!
Love the Composer! Love the Pianist! Love the Conductor! Love the orchestra!...Absolutely LOVE THIS MUSIC!
I was gonna say .... ☺
A whole lot of love going on there!
The "Egyptian" doesn't get as much recognition as the 2nd & 4th ctos., but to me it is exquisite, my favorite.
I AGREE.@@louisdelaverite2388
Agreed
Wow!!!!!!! What a performance! Those folks were really cooking with gas! Their enjoyment of the music showed through both visually and musically. Saint-Saens ("the French Brahms") occupies a special place in 19th century European music, and rightfully so. Being a violinist, perhaps I'm prejudiced--he wrote three violin concertos, plus several outstanding pieces for violin and orchestra--but i hope that the music of Saint-Saens will be with us for a very long time. He took the best of the French temperament, and combined it with classical form to produce masterpieces.
There are many magical moments in this concerto. It's a shame it isn't played more often.
The conductor looked like he was having a better time than anyone! He made me smile!
I have had the fortune of seeing Thibaudet in concert twice. He is fantastic. This performance is no exception. Fantastic performance by all.
Magnifique pianiste , et au-delà, superbe musicien !
Merci Monsieur Thibaudet !
I can't believe how this wonderful concerto has been ignored for so long. This was an exciting performance of it.
Classical music is the best music. Saint Saens is a master.
The Egyptian Concerto has not been ignored, except maybe by you. I'm just happy that you didn't use the word "underrated." I agree with you that this is a wonderful concerto, and that this performance is very exciting.
Very underrated.
I agree all of your comments.
John Fugazzi sadly underrated and ignored. I'm glad Thibaudet loves it. He played it with L A Philharmonic last Fall. First time I've ever had a chance to hear it live
The great Horowitz once said Thibaudet can do things with his fingers he couldn't do . He looks so centred and in control technically and musically.
Great concerto, underrated composer. The playing from 1:40-2:30 is about as good as life can get. Very well written.
I agree about C.S-S. being underrated. Very curious how the winds of fame blow vehemently for some, moderately for others, and lightly or not at all for others.
@@davidjared3402
He was very establishment during his career, and music critics at the time were reluctant to be moved by an academic. He came into greater acclaim after WW2 and is now recognized for his facility with musical scoring and development.
He's not underrated af all. Everybody can't be in the top 3.
I got to see him performing this piano concerto last week. Describing it as breathtaking would be an understatement
I got some funny looks at work when I stood up and clapped loudly at the end of the concert.
AluminumHaste I also clapped at the end I scared my dog who was laying down next to me and walked away.. lol
Send all of them the Link, they will understand or you should quit.
@@andreasneumann lol
The conductor in the first two movements:🫤
The conductor in the third movement:”looks like he’s ascending to heaven”
The conductor is one of those genuinely happy people. Lucky bastard.
When you are conducting such a great piano concerto and have an artist like Thibaudet playing how can any conductor not be as happy?
He is brilliant!
I discovered this composer yesterday and I can't stop listening to his works.
Saint-Saëns is incredible. There are many other composers that are incredible. Keep looking
Scharwenka’s Piano concerti are astounding. In my honest opinion the best is 4 (second movement)
Yes, there are many others, but there is also no particular need to "keep looking" either. If one were stuck on a desert isle and could only listen to one composer, SS would do nicely. I personally think that there has never been a more epic symphony than the Organ Symphony. I cannot stop marveling at Saint-Saens either Maina ; ) @@Handbasketification
Listen to all his work,man was a genius
I'd give Grieg's piano concerto in a a listen as well, it's really quite good
Cette version un peu ancienne reste pour moi la version de référence. Orchestre et pianiste parfaits, des nuances qu'on ne retrouve pas ailleurs. Insurpassable...❤
Just heard Thibaudet play this last night in person with the Cleveland Orchestra. Simply breathtaking.
Sad that this brilliant concerto is not often heard! A masterful execution by the pianist!
7:18 what a great conversation between the instrument, Mr. Saëns was truly magnificent at this.
Thibaudet is one of my favorite pianist. He plays with such expression and tenderness. I feel he is probably the best interpreter of Ravel's works.
Ravel ? You mean Saint-Saens .
@@paulbeard4218 Please read my comment carefully. I stated that Thibaudet was the best interpreter of Ravel's works. I wasn't referring to the Saint-Saens recording in this video.
Marvellous !
Saint-Saëns was a pure genious... The communion between Thibeaudet, Nelsons and the orchestra is really beautiful to see.
It's "genius" and not "genious."
@@PaulJones-oj4kr please find a life
& a good friend of Liszt!
@@andrewpetersen5272 And learn how to spell.
His precise technique, with such smoothness, is like a fresh water stream bubbling over...with these haunting, romantic melodies..bring tears.
It seems that the conductor was having much much fun with this beautiful music!!
He knows he can be in total confidence with Thibaudet.
Probably the most Egyptian music you'll ever hear outside of Egypt.
Thibaudet with the Concertgebouw and Nelson. Fabulous! Great performance of this sadly underplayed and not-well-known work.
French music in all its glory beautifully interpreted by Thibaudet and the Concertgebouw Orchestra !
How come I never heard about this fabulous masterpiece ? It's a sheer reverie and full of magics. Thanks to the pianist
Jean-Yves Thibaudet interprète toujours trop bien Debussy, Ravel, Satie, etc...et là encore, c'est impeccable ! Oui, c'est magnifique tout simplement !
We are looking forward to Thibaudet playing this with NC Symphony in the spring of 2024.
Going to hear this tonight. I think it will be a treat!
@@elizabethmason9862 Enjoy.
Wow the pianist is amazing!!! Saint-Saens never disappoints.
Thank you for posting this superb performance of this irresistible masterpiece by Saint-Saens. All of the piano concerti are extraordinary works and a joy to listen to. Saint-Saens is a composer that rewards repeated listening and delivers great joy to any attentive listener. He has left us a treasured legacy in all genres.
His organ symphony is my favorite of all orchestral compositions, slightly edging out Beethoven's Eroica. Dvorak's New World Symphony is a close third.
... one of the most effectual antidepressants!!!
Virtuosic performance that lifts one higher and higher!
How could anyone dislike this??
Absoluter Weltklasse-Pianist ohne Star-Allüren. Wie er das 2. Thema im ersten Satz spielt gehört zu den Highlights in der Klassik-Szene. Dieser Pianist müsste noch bekannter sein.
+Uwe Dringenberg Der mann ist weltberuehmt ,kann ich Ihnen versicheren
this is music making of the highest kind.The pianist shows the beuty of this concerto with a profound look.
Je découvre à 77 ans la musique géniale de Saint Saens. Quel plaisir d'écouter les concertos pour piano et les symphonies, un vrai régal. Il est vrai que nous sommes saturés par les musiciens germaniques (excellents de toutes façons) alors qu'il y a tant de talents francais à faire connaître.
Acabo de cumplir 69 años, y acabo de descubir el concierto nº 5 de S.Saens, le recomiendo que escuche su concierto nº4 es muy bueno también, pero dicho concierto lo he escuchado desde hace muchps años. El más famoso es el nº 2.
Bach Mozart Beethoven Mendelssohn Schumann Schubert Liszt Brahms
Vs
Saint Seans Ravel and Chopin if you will ;)
@@fredericmoresmau4303 SE HA OLVIDADO de RACHMANINOFF
This is the best St. Saen's piano concerto no. 5 I have ever heard or seen. Thibudet is one genius! The conductor is very excellent in expressing what needs to be emphasized throughout this complicated yet so very beautiful flow of heavenly music! Thumbs way up! Thank God for UA-cam that we can enjoy music that transforms lives! Truly grateful for the one who posted this performance! :--) Thank YOU!
Cara LilyJubilee, dici una cosa verissima: questa musica migliora la vita, è terapeutica
I don't know where that man finds the energy to play a song like that for 25 minutes without his wrists burning up!? Absolutely stunning performance! :O
Classic music nerds would get mad when you call it a song 😂, I agree it's damn hard, give Brahms 2nd concerto a try. Or Celibidache (conductor)when he was really old and conducted Bruckner 8th Symphony for 1:40 hours without a score, he knew it by heart
Thank you, Mr. Saint-Saens!
Thank you, Mr. Thibaudet!
Thanks to the conductor!
And thanks to the orchestra!
A Supreme piece of tone painting which demands, especially in the slow movement, the most integrated musicianship, as in this performance, from soloist and orchestra. What a marvellous display of Saint-Saens' orchestration genius
This is THE piece for Mr. Thibaudet!
From 23:20 and on is one of the most badass and greatest concerto passages ever! I can’t get enough of it
1835-1921. One of the pioneers of French music. His symphonic poems alone are forward thinking. And who can forget his 3rd Symphony, or this concerto for that matter.
Really wonderful performance of this perfectly composed masterpiece in relatively fast tempo.
I LOVE this concerto (and no 4 just as much)...i think they are absolute masterpieces and brilliantly orchestrated...this is a great performance, but I would love to hear Martha and Alicia play it also...
Every time I watch this, it's like unwrapping the. best gift I ever received 💓
Saint-Saëns, Thibaudet and Nelsons together in Egypt! It absolutely doesn’t get any better than this ladies and gentlemen.
Robb's Roads Agreed!
This is the greatest Saint-Saëns concerto No.5 so far. Wonderful pianist, wonderful conduct! Thanks ! 😊
Amongst the most powerful, yet most mesmerizing pieces there ever is. As another connoisseur rightly remarked, a little slice of heaven, indeed.
LITTLE!?!?!?
A superb performance of this great concerto,full of feeling and sensitivity. An inspired combination! What a fine orchestra also!
Ich bin begeistert von dieser Einspielung. Der Pianist, das Orchester der Dirigent einfach Großartig!
Andris Nelsons et Jean-Yves Thibaudet ont vécu jusqu'alors pour interpréter ensemble le concerto de piano numéro 5 de Camille Saint-Saëns. Il ne peut en être autrement. Un grand destin. La messe est dite.
A wonderful and exhilarating performance. This old warhorse sounds so fresh in his hands. The conductor and orchestra are supurb as well.
Le sublime
This concerto is a delight for pianists: cheerful, optimistic, healthy, inventive, full of fantasy when it is a matter of evoking Orient (at 11'40 is the strange musical effect by spacing the two hands by two octaves and one tone between??) and also with an infectious wild energy in the third movement especially when hammered by JYT. A big cheer also for the orchestra and his conductor.
I just tried it out on my piano, it’s a great effect(it’s an interval of a compound third). It creates an over tone effect.
@@jasonhampson9579 i have never heard this in my life after playing piano for more than 50 years. Have i been under
a rock?
Un des sommets du répertoire pianistique. Ce concerto de Saint -Saëns me fait vibrer à chaque fois. Une interprétation magnifique.
J'adore !!
A superb and perfectly timed performance by Thibaudet and the Concertgebouw Orchestra of the exhilarating Piano Concerto No. 5 by Camille Saint-Saens.
Very underrated. His best, and Jean Yves is awesome.
I just love the 3rd movement the best. It gets my bones moving all over the place.
Je viens d'entendre une partie de ce concerto sur Mezzo ; je ne le connaissais pas du tout, heureusement qu'on a donné les références à la fin de l'extrait car j'aurais été tellement désolée de ne pas pouvoir l'écouter encore et encore ! Merci ! Comme dit Mick Dunn, j'ai adoré le pianiste, le chef, l'orchestre et bien sûr ce concerto ! Mais quel bonheur !
One of my absolute favorite pieces, gorgeously played.
I love all 5 Piano concertos. Thanks for posting!
The end of this is just so thrilling! Mr. Thibaudet is Artist in Residence with the Seattle Symphony in 2016. Make an effort to see him perform live.
Always been a fan of Saint-Saens, and the piano concerti are all very strong works. This one has been a favorite of mine for years and is a welcome relief from the many performances of Brahms, Rachmaninov, etc. One has to be able to play very differently to bring this work off successfully. The last movement is just spectacular, one of the great finales of all piano concerti. And, yes, this piece is rarely done in concert. A real shame.
+Bob Cochran I hope you're aware of the amazing Moszkowski #3, and the Paderewski? Delius and Vaughn Williams also...and the lovely little concerto by Rimsky-Korsakov..no need to remain trapped in Germany. Try Josef Marx's "Romantic", too - he was Austrian, I think...
Bob Cochran
Acabo de descubrir este concierto nº5, el final es muy bueno.
También el concierto anterior nº 4 el final también es magnifico.
El final del Rachmaninov los nº2 y 3 son muy espectaculares.
nr 5 - my favorite ever too :)))
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I agree on great comments here; saw it performed live in San Francisco back in the mists of time, ran to buy a good recording. As myself in the Arts, (visual and music history), composed in 1868, I imagine this piece was affected in the artist's mind in the pending event of disasterous war between Germany and France around 1870. Why Egyptian, not a clue: but I hear the tension musically affecting the artist emotionally; moments of calm hit by the abrupt unknowing score of an amnesia of angst. Truly Masterful!!!
Love your art my dear Jean-Yves, its an honor to be your friend...!!! Amazing concerto...
You are really a friend of Mr. Thibaudet?? I envy you!!!
A great video! The passion filled conductor, from Latvia, is the new leader of the Boston Symphony Orchestra. This whole adventure in a great sounding hall, one of the greatest orchestras, a fine pianist, and super sound. The tempo seemed at the speed Saint-Saens might have played it. The audience always likes to be on the edge. This has it!
+Bill Sullivan Saint-Saens was considered one of the great piano artists of his time. He premiered all of his piano concertos. The #5 was nicknamed the "Egyptian" because he composed it in Luxor, Egypt. He was a world traveler. Many of his themes are sounds that he heard on his journeys. Native songs, croaking frogs, ship propellers, and any other sounds that he could put to music fascinated him. He lived some years in Algeria. For his time many of his themes would have been considered very exotic. An exciting composer that is very under played.
Wow, They ALL sure played the hell out of that one. Total fun. Thibaudet has all that throw-away pyrotechnical technique backed up by even more musicianship, so 'tosses' his part off making it look effortless and almost casual, while the conductor and the backup band are no anonymous slouches on the scene, either.
I can't understand why the Saint-Seans piano concertos are not performed more often, particularly nos. 3,4 and 5. IMO they are the equal to any other, yes and I do mean Beethoven, Mozart etc. No5 is my favourite, wonderful!
Probably because many pianists move beyond the cover of the standards. God help them if they had to learn something different. Although much of the blame can be put at the feet of music directors.
This is exceptional! I don't normally like piano concertos, but this one is gentle, syncopated, is both allegro and adagio, and is rich in textures! I LOVE IT!
Try out Moszkowski You will find two more to love.
Wow... I was reading the comments and all of them positive, that's wonderful but rare.
Thank you so much for posting this breathtaking concerto by Saint Saens. I fell in love with his concerto #2 when I was very young, but I think I like this even better. Thibaudet's performance is absolutely brilliant. He makes other versions seem flat by comparison.
I have read almost all of his live and I see and listen his music otherwise. I am only "jealous" I cannot play piano. Grand merci.
I am mainly a baroque guy but i love this piece. The first and this are the best in my view. Often this talk about minor and major composers is just stupid, there is nothing minor about this concerto.
I have always loved this composer, but if you haven't already, do listen to his first two symphonies as well. They are very under-rated and almost never heard, but they are very gentle and lovely.
They completely complement the rest of his fabulous output.
He is without question Te Best interpret of SS nr5
JYT is brilliant. The entire ensemble bringing out the richness and beauty of this neglected piece of SS. So much happening in the orchestral as SS reached his #5. Gorgeous rich conducting. Everyone looks to be having a marvelous time .
Thibaudet loves how fast he can play. That's ok. He IS quite the virtuoso. Never misses a note. The Richter reading is very different.
Everyone seems so happy in the last movement! As cheerful as the finale of Moszkowski’s concerto!
Je n'avais jamais entendu ce concerto...quelle inventivité de St Saens, quelle richesse d'harmonies, de sensibilité, de virtuosité de la part de JY Thibaudet qui en a l'habitude paraît-il bien qu'il soit maintenant très profond dans les parties plus sensibles des oeuvres... comme ici.
오늘 시향과 장이브 티보데의 바로 이곡을 들었다. 집에 가며 바로 유툽에서 다시 들을 수 있음을 감사드립니다.한 음 한 음 어찌나 마음이 풍요롭게 변하던지 음악의 힘은 굉장하군요
Les cinq concertos pour piano de Saint-Saëns sont magnifiques. Dommage que l'on ne les joue pas plus souvent. Merci M Thibaudet.
Exciting and exquisite. I came to Saint-Saëns decades ago via _Samson et Dalila_ and the _Symphony No. 3 ('Organ')_ which are two repositories both of gorgeous tunes and wonderful drama. The concerti and chamber works are lesser known, of course, but what fabulous revelations they hold. The composer was a renowned pianist and one can imagine he would have torn over the keys much as Jean-Yves did. France really has given the world some wonderful composers, hasn't she?
Pas de doute que c'est son concerto pour piano le plus réussi ! Et l'une des meilleures interprétations qui en ait été donnée, qui rend justice à un compositeur formidable mais qui, trop doué, avait parfois de la peine à forcer son imagination à sortir des sentiers battus pour laisser paraître sa personnalité profonde. Lorsqu'il la laisse surgir, ça donne des chefs-d'oeuvre comme celui-ci.
Questo formidabile compositore era senza dubbio un " gifted", come si direbbe oggi, una persona con dotazione intellettuale molto superiore alla media, lo dicono la sua biografia e anche la sua musica: curiosità, velocità di apprendimento, un pensiero originale, divergente, fuori dagli schemi usuali, sensibilità accentuata...persone così è facile che non vengano capite dalle persone comuni... e dagli insegnanti! a scuola gli alunni gifted spesso vengono considerati problematici, disadattati, handicappati...
The beginning of the second movement has got to be one of my favorite intros of all time
Imagine living, breathing and experiencing this genre of music every waking day.
Dommage qu'on entende pas plus souvent Thibaudet, c'est vraiment un crack dans tous les compartiments de la musique.
Wonderfully played by all - colour, imagination, effortless technique!
Had the pleasure of hearing Stephen Hough perform this piece live. It brought me so much joy, I cried.
Why this masterpiece, among many others, is not more played ? Nothing but the first gasps at the beginning is universal. More, it is this year an anniversary with Saint-Saëns. Why not put on Samson at Dalida in Pars? French people do cocorico but ignore completely their music.
(I am French and absolutely not nationalist, but this phenomenon will always amaze me)
25:34 I love that look on that violinist's face when Thibaudet plays the cadenza-esque passage at the end. She's like, "Holy shit." 😂😂
I play this piece and love it so much, and until now I haven't found a recording I loved. I do love this one though, everything from the mic balance to this amazing textures that come out of this wonderful collaboration. This piece is not as egotistical as most piano concertos, it's such a beautiful work of music. Absolutely wonderful performance. Thibaudet will always be one of the greatest.
I can't stop playing this - listen to it at least 10 times a day. As well as loving the music and the pianist, this is my favorite Conductor. Thank you for uploading this.
this pinaist is a machine. he makes no mistakes and knows this music so well.
a pleasure to listen to.
IMO this concerto is equally as good as his piano concerto no 2 and has nothing to envy to it except maybe its popularity, truly a masterpiece ❤
This is one of Saint Saens greatest compositions. I listen to this often and I always select Jean-Yves Thibaudet to hear his performance. This is a great orchestra. The conductor is fabulous, and Jean-Yves Thibaudet performs marvelously. I enjoyed Jean-Yves Thibaudet's interview when he discussed when he met Arthur Rubenstein who inspired him. To Jean-Yves Thibaudet: Rubinstein looks upon you fondly from celestial portals in the afterlife very fondly as your performances make him proud.
Très belle musique.Grand pianiste et la gestuelle du conductor
m'impressionne et me ravit.
Me too, Camille