Man, that MH3U reference! *chef's kiss* And btw, if you're not caught up with the other reactions I've done to MH World music, I got a playlist with all of them here: ua-cam.com/video/qMJC0E4vhAo/v-deo.html
I almost teared up when I first heard this when Alatreon was released in Iceborn, Tri was my first MH game and the themes in the game are amoung my absolute favorites in the whole franchise
Alatreon is such an iconic monster, with a great soundtrack, and there are plenty of other elder dragons to go over, who also have good soundtracks as well, alongside some monsters as well. For example Alatreon was never the final boss in MH3U, he was just the final boss for the main village storyline, there is also another "final boss" of sorts at the end of the guild quests; Dire Miralis, and his music is pretty good. Another is that Fatalis actually is not alone, there is also crimson and white Fatalis as well, though sadly these two never made it to iceborne. Velkhana also has a cool soundtrack (no pun intended lol) another good one is Shara Ishvalda, though it actually has two separate themes, one for each phase.
Loved your expression on the MH3U ref, it captured exactly what we all felt ^^ Also thanks for explaining the Hollywood sound, that was a great segment for those who are not aware of these things!
So glad you found this guy!! He's so good at what he does, I hope you continue to watch his content! (Also love your stuff too, super informative and helpful when I was getting into the series
We need Davi on Third Fleet Podcast discussing the music of MH which is ridiculously underrated. I'd love to see that, the music of MH is one of the key aspects of the MH experience
Alatreon is not only intelligent but sadistic too. Just look at his world cutscene....the way he slowly turns around and went into his posture. He gives off sadistic and even arrogant vibes.
@@groudongamer3178 Yet strangely, it seems like the World theme is more controlled than its MH3U version. Makes it seem like this time around, it's much older and knows what it's doing. Which makes it even more terrifying.
I soloed alatreon about a week ago, finding the right equipment was like a puzzle and I failed quite a few times, and towards the end I was rehearsing his theme in my head
That’s the same for me when I beat Alatreon a few months ago. Grinding for dozens of hours for ice dual blades from kulve then grinding and learning Alatreon’s patterns. I’m so glad that I never looked up a guide and worked for my victory, that made this and my Fatalis fights that much better.
@@TheOn3_ I do feel like its pure luck if he just flies out of reach or spams pin attacks to prevent enough element damage to stop him. If you keep adjusting and stay persistent youll get em eventually
I'd love to hear what you think of Namielle's theme from Iceborne! I hear a lot of references to the ocean and marine life on that theme, and even a low reverberation that sounds like electric eels, which represents Namielle's own control over water and lightning. It sounds imposing but also graceful and aquatic
I remember reading an article that intrerviewed the composers for the Original Alatreon theme featured in Tri. They stated that the aim for alatreon’s theme was one of instability, which ecompass his lore quite nicely. Additionally, they wanted to include heavenly and dark, tense melodies to tag along with that theme and elevate it to where it is today. They freaking nailed all of those things and more with this piece for sure imo.
I'm a literature teacher, i basically do stylistic analysis for a living. I've always wanted to replicate it for music. I see the patterns, the references, the figures and their effects, but being crap at music theory i never really had a name for those motives. It's really nice to see that the same method applies albeit in different arts. Love your videos. As for what musics to comment on next, ever thought of Kulve Taroth or white Fatalis?
He represents the balance of nature and what destruction it can cause in the wrong hands. Notice that Alatreon is the only monster of it's level to not have vocals, idk what it means but it's interesting (great vid btw)
Dawn of the Death Star One breath, one shriek, one lament. It screams, like an icy dead star that rejects the light. The evening was a scorching inferno the night was a symphony of chaos now a soulless cold atmosphere reigns. This is not a end, this is not a beginning, this is something beyond our mind. The emptiness is the destination, sorrow your guide. He leaves nothing but pain, that will be your punisher and friend forever. His frozen heart is the gate, the path to our destiny. No life was so bitter, no damnation was so sweet, the end and the beginning are now one. Embrace the fate, face the Dawn of the Death Star.
during the live concert stream they did in, i think, 2020(?) the composer mentioned how they changed the tempo up in this song to represent alatreon's unstable elemental capabilities and how it cycles between them i beleive the MH3 motif has always been in alatreon's theme since MH3 (they actually liked sprinkling it in many themes throughout the game), but it's still nice to hear it in world. also, when you finally slay him, it plays the MH3 quest complete tune :D
Brought a tear to my eye the first time I heard the tri main theme ! Then I went back and listened to the original alatreon theme from tri and I couldn't believe that I never heard that it was there all along. ^^
I really love your reactions to these themes, the soundtrack is definitely one of the best parts of the series as a whole, plus you just do a really great job at breaking down what makes the themes work! Idk if Rajang's Iceborne theme would be a good one to analyze, but it's one of my favorite themes in the series and I think it'd be interesting to see your reaction
The tempo switch really fits his fight. You have a slower tempo during his main elemnt phase, where hes like a normal elder fight and a much faster tempo on his dragon phase, the last chance you have to weaken his power and not fail the quest to his ultimate move. I love how the main theme for tri is there and when you finish the quest is plays the quest complete song for tri as well
@@Gabirel9730 I can't pinpoint the exact parts, but it goes something like : Flooded forest>Sandy Plains(you know, the arabic instrument mentioned)>Tundra>Main theme(Which is technically part of Deserted Island) > Volcano at some point?
if i remember right, monsters like alatreon, and fatalis (and maybe safi?) are not just elder dragons but black dragons, which is a higher threat level than an elder dragon. that could fit with why the themes are less nature feeling and more "death to all"
Love this song. Still remember the elation of my first ever group kill after 6 hours of trying to kill it on an SOS flare. With some randoms. Spamming emotes and stickers and shoutouts at each other in celebration at the end. “Thanks for the hunts! Good work! Thanks for the hunts! Thanks! Thanks for the hunts! Thanks! Good work!”
I absolutely LOVE these videos! Thank you so much for bringing your knowledge and passion to us. I already loved the music, but you make me love it even more and help me understand why I do so too!
Alatreon's theme is litteraly his soul Always changing, but always epic to say "you'll shit your pants against this thing" This tempo switch is definitely the best idea they've got for this theme
@@paulandreig.sahagun34 his phase 1 theme is my second favorite right after Amatsu's theme and I have the 1 hour version on my phone. I play it almost everyday. The first phase gives off a kind of arrival of a God and the second phase resembles an angry and wrathful God
a lot of the frontier themes are good as well, obv you guys suggested white fatalis but shantien, dhisufiroa, duremudira, and Laviente themes are pretty good
@@inavela_artsy I agree. I loved everything about Amastsu before I even go to hunt it in GU. A few months ago, the experience was better than I thought. And its the first monster I hunt everything I get on that game. The theme song really captures what this dragon really is about
The tri main theme is by far my favourite mh theme. It captures the beauty of nature so perfectlyl. I'm so glad that it's not going to be forgotten any time soon.
I love when you review this monster hunter music. Love your reactions too, ive been playing cello for 8years and i like so much how you discuss and explain musical themes!!
I definitely think that the first half is more regal sounding and then halfway through the danger kicks in! The Ostinato (thank you for teaching me this term!) Really gives me the feeling of being chased or running away from danger. And the use of the MH3 song was very beautiful as was your reaction to it! Thanks Davi!
I was so excited to finally see you react to this theme, I forgot to comment. "Elemental Ruthlessness" is the perfect description for this theme. I watched the MH live concert last year where they also played this theme and in a note from the composers it did say the constant changes represent the unstableness (instability?) of his elemental powers and mental state. There's something about the ramp up and those final two heavy notes at the end that just hit me every time. Also that smile on your face when you recognised the MH3U reference was perfect! Other themes I'd love to hear your analysis of: Velkhana (normal and AT theme compared!), Shara Ishvalda, Kulve Taroth (entire sequence including AT fury theme) and Magnamalo!
It brings me chill everytime i hear those mh3 theme in alatreon's theme, such a cool theme for a cool fight. And i didn't even realize that there's a mhtri theme there because i started in the series at portable3rd, now i like it even more.
Absolutely wonderful video as always! Iceborne Alatreon was truly a glow up for a monster that was already wonderful in the Old World, I am stoked to see it return in Sunbreak or any other future entry in the series!
This music reflects pretty well against Alatreon. Variates between "calm" sessions where it is in one element, and then it goes crazy when It is in that phase where it changes elements and attacks furiously.
Oh I love this song, it is incredible to me that I, to this day I'm not able to solo Alatreon. Honestly it is a mesmerizing monster, the music it's just the cherry on top.
When you mentioned the "Hollywood" style of music and explained the ostinato, it reminded me of the work of Danny Elfman. I feel like a lot of his signature soundtracks from the 90s for Tim Burton had a similar feel (which I loved). Still my favorite movie composer.
Wrath of the Evening Star He burns like an unholy Inferno, its seething like a burning star who revels in the dark. In the corrupted spirit of the summer the soul of anger glows which in glorified madness hates everything that is alive and dead. Heat, demon, purgatory he is all this and yet not. No devil has ever survived him, no angel has ever seen him because he is the omnipresent art of anarchy whose existence tremble the gods and even death. His anger, his fire burns everything down, nothing good and nothing bad will survive this catastrophe. Because it is the symbol of destruction, the omen of emptiness, the eternal wrath of the evening star!
HELL YESSSSS ALATREONNNNN!!! A favorite comment about its theme I once read was how the tempo contrast signifies the elemental chaos and imbalance Alatreon represents, and it fits so damn well in its theme! Also, Alatreon is a love letter to 3rd gen hunters, not only the slipped-in Tri theme but also the victory fanfare for Tri! Truly one of the best monster themes!
I think the tempo swapping is also meant to represent Alatreons constant phase swapping. They also play a variation of the Gen 3 Main Theme in the quiet part starting at 3:00 .
Man I'm really glad I found your channel, your breakdowns of the basic theory and why the music feels the way it does is so good, I'm looking forward to seeing you do stuff like this for songs from other games as well, especially things I'm not familiar with, it's always cool to discover new music.
That makes me happy. A lot of people request songs and then get mad when the next video is not what they requested. Glad you're open to listening to new stuff. Thanks!
Woo! I'm so glad you covered Alatreon's theme! I honestly love the change in tempo representing Alatreon's control over elements being unstable, while being utterly noble-sounding in the beginning. The timpani beat in the start of the faster section is also super cool, it went from electric guitar in Tri and 3U to timpani, both sound delightfully intimidating. Also to lead on from this, I'd totally look at Zinogre's theme from Iceborne. Has some other interesting game references in the theme too ;)
3:43 middle eastern timbre and motifs are associated with hot temperature (desert levels in video games etc.). Since Alatreon can switch to and control multiple elements, the music switching up to a warmer region makes total sense.
I can't wait for you to analyze Ceadeus's theme as hopefully part of a MH3 elder dragon theme trilogy to go with his MH2 elder dragon theme trilogy and World elder dragon theme trilogy
Always good to see your expressions when you analize a theme. Especialy from this cool and tromatic dragon. But, about the feeling of terror you talk about, you could compare this version withe the horiginal one. with the horiginal, the feeling of terror is really present from the begining. i'm literally whtching all your videos with big interest. ^^
Ah one of my favourite OST from the game, it starts all the ominous and then transition to tone like lullaby of death kind of thing, it gives us feeling of slowly time of judgement is approaches. This is my take on the OST, can't wait for your explanation
Hey so another thing I believe you might have accidentally missed and it's very subtle. At 3:41 that is actually tri's/3 ultimate's melody playing and it hints to the eventual build up when the main melody plays. It's good foreshadowing to the rest of the music piece and a good subtle allusion to the games this monster is from. also for the memes: *Alatreon holds his head up high* Hunters: "Get down here you little sh*t and let us break those horns!"
Oi Davi! The MH themes really are very impressive. I love the way the tension ramps up at the beginning. It’s great that we saw you “playing” the piano with two hands for a millisecond btw even if it was just with two fingers :)
Thanks for going into detail about how much we love music and describing the emotions that are conveyed through these amazing songs! I would really love to hear what you think of Ceadeus' themes, sticking with MH3
Yesterday i fought him for the first time with my friends. The theme fits so much to him. His ingame posture, moves and aura makes you think he is saying "I am so much better than you, mortals". Such an arrogant pain in the a**
I would really love to see you break down Velkana's and Nergigante's theme from World. They are two of my most favorite monsters in the series. Also Mizutsune and the Map themes from Rise.
@@DaviVasc Can we get shara isvalda? Probably my favorite boss in MHW and the theme is amazing also having a neat reference that I won’t spoil if you haven’t listened to the track already.
Really cool, man! I actually felt the same about that Mh3 reference on the time that Alatreon came on MHW iceborne. It was amazing. I enjoy every video about every marvelous mh themes and It is very interesting to know the theory behind such magnificent works. Good vibes, man 🤙🏼
I have no musical talent, no desire to play an instrument. But I really enjoy these breakdowns, helps me appreciate the effort put into making such fantastic music
NOW I KNOW WHAT PART MADE ME THINK THIS TRACK WAS BEAUTIFUL! It's the Tri Opening leitmotif! It truly gives a sense of wonder- like how nature is both amazing and frightening.
Another great video Davi. I wasn’t a big fan of Alatreon’s theme when it first released but it has slowly grow on me over time and now I feel like I have a much better understanding and appreciation for it. Still hoping you’ll get to Shara Ishvalda’s theme soon. Both phases of it are quite unique, especially compared to most other monster hunter themes. They use a lot of unique instruments that you don’t hear in other MH themes.
8:10 I think this is such a beautiful description that captures the spirit of 3rd Gen, and partly explains why 3rd Gen has my favorite MH atmosphere compared to the other generations. Thank you for these videos!
The 3u callback was so amazing the first few times (always) when i listened to it alatreon is such a cool monster and tri was my first real mh game so I have a lot of nostaglic for alatreon
The 3U theme I didn't expect at all, but love it! 3rd gen is my fave Monster Hunter game. On a separate note I'd really like to see you react to Namielle's theme, my personal fave for gen 5.
I think they added the MIddle Eastern instrument for unorthodox sense of music In my grasp, Alatreon brings "foreign/alien scenario" wherein we do not know WHY (maybe he was lured by Safi) it goes to Secluded Valley. He is some sort of a unexpected visitor to the New World. Great video! I am enjoying these content!
One thing youll notice with MHWs and MHWIB's flagship themes will have references to their game origins' music. One thing about the alatreon quest is that the victory theme for it is the original MH3 victory theme!
Absolutely my reaction when "to the alive" (mh tri main theme) hits. It was actually in the original alatreon theme back on wii, but they went nuts with it on this version. Have to love it, such a beautiful, nostalgic song as the "heroic" moment of this elder dragon OST can't be anything but a love letter for those who played the third gen.
This might be a bit of odd pick but can you breakdown Vaal Hazak's theme? I think it's one of the best elder dragon themes from MHW. Your vids are awesome man, keep it up!
It is funny how the brain recognizes music sometimes. I selectively recognized and heard the 3rd gen reference part, and knew that i had already heard that many times before, but i couldn't for the life of me remember in which context. Fascinating.
You should react to Nergigante's theme! AT (Arch Tempered) Nergigante to be specific, I feel like his music has a lot of weight in it, especially since his quest was the last quest to be added to High Rank in Monster Hunter World before Iceborne was released.
To me, the qanun and some other instruments that plays in the background are here to emphasise the fact that Alatreon controls all elements with the qanun representing fire, bells for the ice or some of the cymbals for thunder for examples. On the other hand, the first thing that comes to my mind with the tempo shift, is that it's here to remind us that he's still a black dragon and that he sould not ne underestimated.
Loved the video!!!, Alatreon is my favourite monster and it was amazing to hear you finally listen to this. I would to hear what you think of both gore magala and shagaru magala's theme, tge contrast they have is amazing. P.s: and while you're at it, listen to the chaotic gore magala theme as well :)
Vaal Hazaak's theme would be my request. Also maybe if you didn't want to do a video for each of them separately, maybe an analysis for how all the returning flagships in Iceborne had a leitmotif of their game/the village incorporated into them the way Tri's theme is here.
I love this version of Alatreon's theme in World, don't get me wrong, but if I might state a personal opinion of mine, I prefer the version we hear in Tri and 3U for one reason: The progression in the song that references the opening theme for those games. I feel as if a lot of the impact of Alatreon's battle is lost in the World version, because the original version had a few key instrumental differences, notably in the segment where the tempo changes, leading up to the main theme medley. In the original version, the segment included what sounded like an electric guitar riffing as the Ostinato plays, which then accentuates the way the main instruments play the main theme medley. If you listen closely to the original, by comparison this section almost sounds off-key and slightly discordant. It's really interesting to me as it seems to give off the impression that Alatreon is not only in control of nature itself, but the living embodiment of natural order's direct antithesis, which according to ecology entries and various lore texts, a lot of people in the Monster Hunter universe seem to believe as being true.
Man, that MH3U reference! *chef's kiss*
And btw, if you're not caught up with the other reactions I've done to MH World music, I got a playlist with all of them here: ua-cam.com/video/qMJC0E4vhAo/v-deo.html
I almost teared up when I first heard this when Alatreon was released in Iceborn, Tri was my first MH game and the themes in the game are amoung my absolute favorites in the whole franchise
I dont think thats so much a reference as it is just left there from the original theme because there it was just used as a leit motif
There is also another reference to the 3U main theme that you can hear at about 3:03 in the video. It is a bit more subtle so it's easy to miss.
Alatreon is such an iconic monster, with a great soundtrack, and there are plenty of other elder dragons to go over, who also have good soundtracks as well, alongside some monsters as well.
For example Alatreon was never the final boss in MH3U, he was just the final boss for the main village storyline, there is also another "final boss" of sorts at the end of the guild quests; Dire Miralis, and his music is pretty good.
Another is that Fatalis actually is not alone, there is also crimson and white Fatalis as well, though sadly these two never made it to iceborne.
Velkhana also has a cool soundtrack (no pun intended lol) another good one is Shara Ishvalda, though it actually has two separate themes, one for each phase.
Alatreon is the final boss of MH3
Loved your expression on the MH3U ref, it captured exactly what we all felt ^^ Also thanks for explaining the Hollywood sound, that was a great segment for those who are not aware of these things!
So glad you found this guy!! He's so good at what he does, I hope you continue to watch his content! (Also love your stuff too, super informative and helpful when I was getting into the series
We need Davi on Third Fleet Podcast discussing the music of MH which is ridiculously underrated. I'd love to see that, the music of MH is one of the key aspects of the MH experience
ikr, that callback was as important and impactful to me as hearing proof of a hero at the fatalis fight
@@IceWolfAlphaheart7777 yes I second this
@@IceWolfAlphaheart7777 I couldn't agree more
The thing I like about alatreon's theme is it isn't consistent, which makes sense cus he's unstable elementary and mentally
Alatreon is not only intelligent but sadistic too. Just look at his world cutscene....the way he slowly turns around and went into his posture. He gives off sadistic and even arrogant vibes.
Wait, I get elementally, but 'unstable mentally' sounds like a personal attack.
Did he hurt you?
I know he hurt me. And many, many others.
@@LoncusZhao again I repeat: sadistic and arrogant describe alatreon perfectly.
@@groudongamer3178 Yet strangely, it seems like the World theme is more controlled than its MH3U version. Makes it seem like this time around, it's much older and knows what it's doing. Which makes it even more terrifying.
And it flips in intensity as the fight goes on.
I soloed alatreon about a week ago, finding the right equipment was like a puzzle and I failed quite a few times, and towards the end I was rehearsing his theme in my head
And hearing MH3s "for creatures" snuck in there is so inspiring
That’s the same for me when I beat Alatreon a few months ago. Grinding for dozens of hours for ice dual blades from kulve then grinding and learning Alatreon’s patterns. I’m so glad that I never looked up a guide and worked for my victory, that made this and my Fatalis fights that much better.
Bro I’m still trying to solo him I keep carting at the very end
@@DexFire1115 It is so satisfying to figure out exactly how to slay something on your own
@@TheOn3_ I do feel like its pure luck if he just flies out of reach or spams pin attacks to prevent enough element damage to stop him. If you keep adjusting and stay persistent youll get em eventually
I'd love to hear what you think of Namielle's theme from Iceborne! I hear a lot of references to the ocean and marine life on that theme, and even a low reverberation that sounds like electric eels, which represents Namielle's own control over water and lightning. It sounds imposing but also graceful and aquatic
Thank you for the suggestion!
I remember reading an article that intrerviewed the composers for the Original Alatreon theme featured in Tri. They stated that the aim for alatreon’s theme was one of instability, which ecompass his lore quite nicely. Additionally, they wanted to include heavenly and dark, tense melodies to tag along with that theme and elevate it to where it is today. They freaking nailed all of those things and more with this piece for sure imo.
I'm a literature teacher, i basically do stylistic analysis for a living. I've always wanted to replicate it for music. I see the patterns, the references, the figures and their effects, but being crap at music theory i never really had a name for those motives. It's really nice to see that the same method applies albeit in different arts. Love your videos. As for what musics to comment on next, ever thought of Kulve Taroth or white Fatalis?
Thank you for the comment, my friend. Both Kulve and every possible variation of Fatalis have been suggested a lot. I'll do them all for sure!
He represents the balance of nature and what destruction it can cause in the wrong hands. Notice that Alatreon is the only monster of it's level to not have vocals, idk what it means but it's interesting (great vid btw)
That is an interesting observation indeed about the vocals
Alatreon's theme gives such a sense of unknown danger and grandioseness, it fits Alatreon perfectly
Straight up one of the biggest gaming musical master pieces.
Dawn of the Death Star
One breath, one shriek, one lament. It screams, like an icy dead star that rejects the light. The evening was a scorching inferno the night was a symphony of chaos now a soulless cold atmosphere reigns. This is not a end, this is not a beginning, this is something beyond our mind. The emptiness is the destination, sorrow your guide. He leaves nothing but pain, that will be your punisher and friend forever. His frozen heart is the gate, the path to our destiny. No life was so bitter, no damnation was so sweet, the end and the beginning are now one. Embrace the fate, face the Dawn of the Death Star.
I got the reference
Wow, now do The Evening Star
@@justingabriel8932 I've already did down in the comments...
This goes hard fr, nice writing!
during the live concert stream they did in, i think, 2020(?) the composer mentioned how they changed the tempo up in this song to represent alatreon's unstable elemental capabilities and how it cycles between them
i beleive the MH3 motif has always been in alatreon's theme since MH3 (they actually liked sprinkling it in many themes throughout the game), but it's still nice to hear it in world.
also, when you finally slay him, it plays the MH3 quest complete tune :D
Ah, the pain of trying to get broken skypiercers from this guy back in tri is nostalgic indeed
5th genners are being judged by escathon judgement. While 3rd genners are being judged by the whortiness of skypiercer drop.
[Stolen from NCH]
Dalamadur, Gogmazios and Amatsu are monster's that definitely deserve to have their themes analised
Thank you for the suggestions
Brought a tear to my eye the first time I heard the tri main theme !
Then I went back and listened to the original alatreon theme from tri and I couldn't believe that I never heard that it was there all along. ^^
yeah, the reference is more discrete in the original version
I really love your reactions to these themes, the soundtrack is definitely one of the best parts of the series as a whole, plus you just do a really great job at breaking down what makes the themes work! Idk if Rajang's Iceborne theme would be a good one to analyze, but it's one of my favorite themes in the series and I think it'd be interesting to see your reaction
The tempo switch really fits his fight. You have a slower tempo during his main elemnt phase, where hes like a normal elder fight and a much faster tempo on his dragon phase, the last chance you have to weaken his power and not fail the quest to his ultimate move.
I love how the main theme for tri is there and when you finish the quest is plays the quest complete song for tri as well
I didn't know that about the quest complete theme of tri! That is really cool.
Here's an interesting thing: the different parts in Alatreon's theme go over the 5 zones themes in Tri
Wait, really???? Which themes, exactly?
@@Gabirel9730 I can't pinpoint the exact parts, but it goes something like :
Flooded forest>Sandy Plains(you know, the arabic instrument mentioned)>Tundra>Main theme(Which is technically part of Deserted Island) > Volcano at some point?
if i remember right, monsters like alatreon, and fatalis (and maybe safi?) are not just elder dragons but black dragons, which is a higher threat level than an elder dragon. that could fit with why the themes are less nature feeling and more "death to all"
I was so stoked when the 3U theme came in it almost moved me to tears. The nostalgia just went to 11
same :')
10:25 the new violin melod is elegant and awesome !!!!!
Love this song. Still remember the elation of my first ever group kill after 6 hours of trying to kill it on an SOS flare. With some randoms. Spamming emotes and stickers and shoutouts at each other in celebration at the end.
“Thanks for the hunts! Good work! Thanks for the hunts! Thanks! Thanks for the hunts! Thanks! Good work!”
I absolutely LOVE these videos! Thank you so much for bringing your knowledge and passion to us. I already loved the music, but you make me love it even more and help me understand why I do so too!
That makes me happy, thank you :)
Alatreon's theme is litteraly his soul
Always changing, but always epic to say "you'll shit your pants against this thing"
This tempo switch is definitely the best idea they've got for this theme
I haven't played much of 3 Ultimate but I LOVE its theme, so hearing it in Alatreon's theme gave me goosebumps.
Would love to get your reactions to these soundtracks:
Amatsu Theme Phases 1 and 2
White Fatalis Theme ( MH Frontier Z)
Rajang ( MHW:Iceborne)
White Fatalis MH Frontier Z is the best Theme!
@@paulandreig.sahagun34 his phase 1 theme is my second favorite right after Amatsu's theme and I have the 1 hour version on my phone. I play it almost everyday. The first phase gives off a kind of arrival of a God and the second phase resembles an angry and wrathful God
a lot of the frontier themes are good as well, obv you guys suggested white fatalis but shantien, dhisufiroa, duremudira, and Laviente themes are pretty good
I really wanna hear his reaction to Amatsu's theme. It's such a gorgeous theme. And the way it transitions with a roar just- *chef kiss*
@@inavela_artsy I agree. I loved everything about Amastsu before I even go to hunt it in GU. A few months ago, the experience was better than I thought. And its the first monster I hunt everything I get on that game. The theme song really captures what this dragon really is about
The tri main theme is by far my favourite mh theme. It captures the beauty of nature so perfectlyl. I'm so glad that it's not going to be forgotten any time soon.
I can guaratee you that at the very least it won't be forgotten during my lifetime
I love when you review this monster hunter music. Love your reactions too, ive been playing cello for 8years and i like so much how you discuss and explain musical themes!!
Oh, that is really cool that you play the cello!
Everytime I hear "To one with life" in a 3rd gen monster's theme, I tear up a little.
same
I definitely think that the first half is more regal sounding and then halfway through the danger kicks in! The Ostinato (thank you for teaching me this term!) Really gives me the feeling of being chased or running away from danger. And the use of the MH3 song was very beautiful as was your reaction to it! Thanks Davi!
Thank you Abigail!
I was so excited to finally see you react to this theme, I forgot to comment.
"Elemental Ruthlessness" is the perfect description for this theme. I watched the MH live concert last year where they also played this theme and in a note from the composers it did say the constant changes represent the unstableness (instability?) of his elemental powers and mental state.
There's something about the ramp up and those final two heavy notes at the end that just hit me every time. Also that smile on your face when you recognised the MH3U reference was perfect!
Other themes I'd love to hear your analysis of: Velkhana (normal and AT theme compared!), Shara Ishvalda, Kulve Taroth (entire sequence including AT fury theme) and Magnamalo!
It brings me chill everytime i hear those mh3 theme in alatreon's theme, such a cool theme for a cool fight. And i didn't even realize that there's a mhtri theme there because i started in the series at portable3rd, now i like it even more.
What i love about Alatreon's theme is that there is almost no hope in these, unlike Fatalis and Safi
Absolutely wonderful video as always! Iceborne Alatreon was truly a glow up for a monster that was already wonderful in the Old World, I am stoked to see it return in Sunbreak or any other future entry in the series!
Glad you liked it!
This music reflects pretty well against Alatreon. Variates between "calm" sessions where it is in one element, and then it goes crazy when It is in that phase where it changes elements and attacks furiously.
Thanks again. Nothing beats hearing people talk about one of my favorite game franchise. Keep it up!
Thanks Eduardo!
Oh I love this song, it is incredible to me that I, to this day I'm not able to solo Alatreon. Honestly it is a mesmerizing monster, the music it's just the cherry on top.
I feel like the instruments clashing against to each other is represent Alatreons unstable control of the elements he uses
When you mentioned the "Hollywood" style of music and explained the ostinato, it reminded me of the work of Danny Elfman. I feel like a lot of his signature soundtracks from the 90s for Tim Burton had a similar feel (which I loved). Still my favorite movie composer.
Yeah, a lot of the hollywood style that I mentioned is just Elfman and Zimmer being oversimplified and repeated over and over again
Wrath of the Evening Star
He burns like an unholy Inferno, its seething like a burning star who revels in the dark. In the corrupted spirit of the summer the soul of anger glows which in glorified madness hates everything that is alive and dead. Heat, demon, purgatory he is all this and yet not. No devil has ever survived him, no angel has ever seen him because he is the omnipresent art of anarchy whose existence tremble the gods and even death. His anger, his fire burns everything down, nothing good and nothing bad will survive this catastrophe. Because it is the symbol of destruction, the omen of emptiness, the eternal wrath of the evening star!
oh my gosh, I almost forgot about you bcoz of lots of works good thing you came by my suggestions again coz I've been waiting for this!
This theme is absolutely amazing, I dream of listening to this in person with a live orchestra... Such an amazing piece!
Hearing that MH3U reference was such a nostalgia trip, Alatreon's theme will always be a memorable one.
HELL YESSSSS ALATREONNNNN!!! A favorite comment about its theme I once read was how the tempo contrast signifies the elemental chaos and imbalance Alatreon represents, and it fits so damn well in its theme! Also, Alatreon is a love letter to 3rd gen hunters, not only the slipped-in Tri theme but also the victory fanfare for Tri! Truly one of the best monster themes!
AYYYY I’ve been hoping for this, Great job
Hope you enjoyed it :D
I think the tempo swapping is also meant to represent Alatreons constant phase swapping.
They also play a variation of the Gen 3 Main Theme in the quiet part starting at 3:00 .
Man I'm really glad I found your channel, your breakdowns of the basic theory and why the music feels the way it does is so good, I'm looking forward to seeing you do stuff like this for songs from other games as well, especially things I'm not familiar with, it's always cool to discover new music.
That makes me happy. A lot of people request songs and then get mad when the next video is not what they requested. Glad you're open to listening to new stuff. Thanks!
There's another 3U ref at 3:00 or so, played by the woodwind. It's the same ref you found later in the piece but this time with a very different mood.
Woo! I'm so glad you covered Alatreon's theme! I honestly love the change in tempo representing Alatreon's control over elements being unstable, while being utterly noble-sounding in the beginning. The timpani beat in the start of the faster section is also super cool, it went from electric guitar in Tri and 3U to timpani, both sound delightfully intimidating.
Also to lead on from this, I'd totally look at Zinogre's theme from Iceborne. Has some other interesting game references in the theme too ;)
Thank you so much with making this review and analysis video.
Thank you so much for watching!
I really love your videos! Thanks for giving a glimpse of musical world through theory!
3:43 middle eastern timbre and motifs are associated with hot temperature (desert levels in video games etc.). Since Alatreon can switch to and control multiple elements, the music switching up to a warmer region makes total sense.
Ah, good point
I just love the way you talk about all those amazing themes.
I can tell you'd enjoy the theme of Dire Miralis another Black Dragon
Sure, Miralis gets suggested a lot. I'll do it for sure
@@DaviVasc awesome
I came here just for your reaction but i was surprised by how much i've learned about music from your channel alone, you deserve a sub 🙏
Im going to keep mentioning Namielle, do get around to that theme.
My personal favorite monster, and the theme just fits the design so dang much.
I will get around to it for sure. It's not at the top of the list since there are other highly requested monsters, but I'll do it. Have faith!
I can't wait for you to analyze Ceadeus's theme as hopefully part of a MH3 elder dragon theme trilogy to go with his MH2 elder dragon theme trilogy and World elder dragon theme trilogy
A Ceadeus video is coming soon
Always good to see your expressions when you analize a theme. Especialy from this cool and tromatic dragon.
But, about the feeling of terror you talk about, you could compare this version withe the horiginal one. with the horiginal, the feeling of terror is really present from the begining.
i'm literally whtching all your videos with big interest. ^^
This Alatreon theme is soooooo epic! Seriously love it. Shows that duality of Alatreon switching elements so so well!
3:08 this part sounds like the mission failed theme. i think they're saying to us indirectly that we are gonna fail this mission a lot xD
I know I did XD
Yesssss the one i requested. Thank you man!
Glad this was the one you wanted!
Ah one of my favourite OST from the game, it starts all the ominous and then transition to tone like lullaby of death kind of thing, it gives us feeling of slowly time of judgement is approaches.
This is my take on the OST, can't wait for your explanation
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@DaviVasc yup fully, loved how you broke down everything and pointed out the 3rd gen reference!
Hey so another thing I believe you might have accidentally missed and it's very subtle. At 3:41 that is actually tri's/3 ultimate's melody playing and it hints to the eventual build up when the main melody plays. It's good foreshadowing to the rest of the music piece and a good subtle allusion to the games this monster is from.
also for the memes:
*Alatreon holds his head up high*
Hunters: "Get down here you little sh*t and let us break those horns!"
This is one of my favorites theme
For my favorite monster
Great video! Loved your reaction for the 3rd gen theme
Thank you Roei!
Oi Davi! The MH themes really are very impressive. I love the way the tension ramps up at the beginning. It’s great that we saw you “playing” the piano with two hands for a millisecond btw even if it was just with two fingers :)
Hahaha, that is about as far as I go with two hands at the same time :D
Thanks for going into detail about how much we love music and describing the emotions that are conveyed through these amazing songs! I would really love to hear what you think of Ceadeus' themes, sticking with MH3
Ceadeus will be the first 3rd gen reaction I'm gonna do. Soon!
I finally encoutered alatreon today, So I could watch this. Great elder dragon, great theme and great analysis 😄
Yesterday i fought him for the first time with my friends. The theme fits so much to him. His ingame posture, moves and aura makes you think he is saying "I am so much better than you, mortals". Such an arrogant pain in the a**
I would really love to see you break down Velkana's and Nergigante's theme from World. They are two of my most favorite monsters in the series. Also Mizutsune and the Map themes from Rise.
Great suggestions. Thank you!
Velkhana has like 5 different battle themes, that'll be one long-ass video lol
@@DaviVasc Can we get shara isvalda? Probably my favorite boss in MHW and the theme is amazing also having a neat reference that I won’t spoil if you haven’t listened to the track already.
Really cool, man! I actually felt the same about that Mh3 reference on the time that Alatreon came on MHW iceborne. It was amazing. I enjoy every video about every marvelous mh themes and It is very interesting to know the theory behind such magnificent works. Good vibes, man 🤙🏼
Thanks, Ivan!
I have no musical talent, no desire to play an instrument. But I really enjoy these breakdowns, helps me appreciate the effort put into making such fantastic music
If I'm drawing attention to what these fantastic composers are doing, this makes me happy. Thank you.
Another amazing review 👌
Thank you my friend
NOW I KNOW WHAT PART MADE ME THINK THIS TRACK WAS BEAUTIFUL! It's the Tri Opening leitmotif! It truly gives a sense of wonder- like how nature is both amazing and frightening.
Another great video Davi. I wasn’t a big fan of Alatreon’s theme when it first released but it has slowly grow on me over time and now I feel like I have a much better understanding and appreciation for it.
Still hoping you’ll get to Shara Ishvalda’s theme soon. Both phases of it are quite unique, especially compared to most other monster hunter themes. They use a lot of unique instruments that you don’t hear in other MH themes.
Thank you, Banter! I'll definitley do Shara at some point!
Yas! I've been waiting for this!
Hope you enjoyed it :D
@@DaviVasc You bet i did, as with all the MH content 👌
8:10 I think this is such a beautiful description that captures the spirit of 3rd Gen, and partly explains why 3rd Gen has my favorite MH atmosphere compared to the other generations. Thank you for these videos!
Same. I miss when MH worlds were more grounded jurassic worlds that demanded respect from us. Thank you for watching!
The 3u callback was so amazing the first few times (always) when i listened to it alatreon is such a cool monster and tri was my first real mh game so I have a lot of nostaglic for alatreon
7:25 I always associated that part with dire miralis, but now that you mention it, I remembered both use the main theme XD
The 3U theme I didn't expect at all, but love it! 3rd gen is my fave Monster Hunter game. On a separate note I'd really like to see you react to Namielle's theme, my personal fave for gen 5.
Third gen has a special place in my heart as well. Thank you for the suggestion!
I think they added the MIddle Eastern instrument for unorthodox sense of music In my grasp, Alatreon brings "foreign/alien scenario" wherein we do not know WHY (maybe he was lured by Safi) it goes to Secluded Valley. He is some sort of a unexpected visitor to the New World. Great video! I am enjoying these content!
Alatreon has always been my favorite monster (if you couldn’t tell by my name lol) so I’ve been waiting for this
Glad you got the video you wanted!
That quiet start always makes me go "oh yeah this dude it's gonna annihilate me what am I doing here again?"
One thing youll notice with MHWs and MHWIB's flagship themes will have references to their game origins' music. One thing about the alatreon quest is that the victory theme for it is the original MH3 victory theme!
2:40 Alatreon's horns are called "Skypiercers" when they drop in game. Talk about holding your head up high when you're piercing the sky.
Great observation!
Absolutely my reaction when "to the alive" (mh tri main theme) hits. It was actually in the original alatreon theme back on wii, but they went nuts with it on this version. Have to love it, such a beautiful, nostalgic song as the "heroic" moment of this elder dragon OST can't be anything but a love letter for those who played the third gen.
MH Tri main theme is such a special theme. It always feels powerful whenever they use it
Amazing video man, and keep up the good work! I would love to see you dissect the theme of Shara Ishvalda sometime in the future as well.
Ishvalda is on the list!
My absolute favorite Monster! Thanks Mr Vasc!
Happy you liked it, Mr Temnov!
7:05
I never really thought that this part was the 3U main theme, good call
Love the vids. Amazing analysis. You should do Dire Miralis next, hitting back on the 3U vibes. Greetings from Colombia!
Miralis is definitely coming soon. Might do Ceadeus first, but Miralis is coming soon after for sure
Tri was my intro to monster hunter. And Alatreon was always my favorite Elder Dragon.
This might be a bit of odd pick but can you breakdown Vaal Hazak's theme? I think it's one of the best elder dragon themes from MHW. Your vids are awesome man, keep it up!
Not an odd pick, it has been suggested a lot. I'll do it at some point for sure!
I love those smileys you also add. makes it so adorable. :D
😊 thank you
It is funny how the brain recognizes music sometimes. I selectively recognized and heard the 3rd gen reference part, and knew that i had already heard that many times before, but i couldn't for the life of me remember in which context. Fascinating.
Hearing the mh3 music was such a nostalgia trip as 3u was my first mh game, so good
Same!
I'm so used to hearing this BGM with the "pop-pop-pop" of the LBG.
It feels a lot different when your not so concerned about your DS.
You should react to Nergigante's theme! AT (Arch Tempered) Nergigante to be specific, I feel like his music has a lot of weight in it, especially since his quest was the last quest to be added to High Rank in Monster Hunter World before Iceborne was released.
Cool, thank you for the suggestion!
To me, the qanun and some other instruments that plays in the background are here to emphasise the fact that Alatreon controls all elements with the qanun representing fire, bells for the ice or some of the cymbals for thunder for examples. On the other hand, the first thing that comes to my mind with the tempo shift, is that it's here to remind us that he's still a black dragon and that he sould not ne underestimated.
Loved the video!!!, Alatreon is my favourite monster and it was amazing to hear you finally listen to this.
I would to hear what you think of both gore magala and shagaru magala's theme, tge contrast they have is amazing.
P.s: and while you're at it, listen to the chaotic gore magala theme as well :)
I'll probably do all the Magalas in a single big video. Thanks, man!
3.40 it's mh3 theme :D i love this theme sooo nuch, thanks for sharing insights about it from a capable prospective!
Thank you for watching!
Vaal Hazaak's theme would be my request. Also maybe if you didn't want to do a video for each of them separately, maybe an analysis for how all the returning flagships in Iceborne had a leitmotif of their game/the village incorporated into them the way Tri's theme is here.
That is a cool idea. Thanks!
I love this version of Alatreon's theme in World, don't get me wrong, but if I might state a personal opinion of mine, I prefer the version we hear in Tri and 3U for one reason:
The progression in the song that references the opening theme for those games. I feel as if a lot of the impact of Alatreon's battle is lost in the World version, because the original version had a few key instrumental differences, notably in the segment where the tempo changes, leading up to the main theme medley.
In the original version, the segment included what sounded like an electric guitar riffing as the Ostinato plays, which then accentuates the way the main instruments play the main theme medley. If you listen closely to the original, by comparison this section almost sounds off-key and slightly discordant. It's really interesting to me as it seems to give off the impression that Alatreon is not only in control of nature itself, but the living embodiment of natural order's direct antithesis, which according to ecology entries and various lore texts, a lot of people in the Monster Hunter universe seem to believe as being true.