Wait... if she was cheating SOMETIMES ON THE FARM, could THAT be why the cameras stopped? Like, she didn't want to be seen with some other guy on farm cameras...
This is exactly why I read the comment section. Waiting for someone to think the same thing I was thinking. With that said does the camera have a digital record that it is being turned on and off. Also it sounds like the husband didn't leave the farm. If him finding out pig mean her life would she take the chance o f him or her children catching her. Our story teller really is correct. There is an enormous amount of unanswered questions and I believe she said if I'm not mistaken that she watched the whole trial. This channel sure gets you thinking
Is crazy to me they were able to find him guilty yet someone like Casey Anthony roams the streets🙍♀️ Not saying he isn't guilty but to reach that verdict with no evidence seems like a stretch right?
As a 911 dispatcher of 13 years, I can tell you LOTS of people act and THEN call 911. The fact that he got her in the truck and started driving and then called is actually pretty normal. Also, if you ever get impaled on an object, don't remove it. It might just save your life. Love your videos Bailey!
I feel like it makes more sense to do that if you live in the middle of nowhere saves time waiting on ambulance to arrive and then take someone back to the hospital
I would also have jumped in the truck first, then called 911 as I was driving in order to lessen the time waiting. Precious seconds can be wasted trying to save a life by stalling.
I lived in secluded country for many years, and my plan of action in case of emergency never included calling and waiting for an ambulance. Action first, call for help second.
I immediately thought of the son, Tristan. Like he was the one who found the body, he was alone going to get water, which was a lot closer to the red shed than his father was...what if he did it? And of course, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE INVESTIGATORS?! No one thought to, I dunno, INVESTIGATE?
American police seem to do this all the time it’s like they are fixated on somebody from the beginning and all they do is try to prove that guilt rather than remain open-minded. I’m 100% sure almost at least 90% that it was O.J. Simpson son that killed Nicole and not O.J. Simpson but O.J. Simpson went to the scene to drive his son away hence getting blood from the scene. The thing is the parent would probably rather go down than frame their own child but I guess would ideally like both to get off with it
Oh I 100% think it was the son it makes more sense 🤷🏼 he probably found out his mom cheated and was going to divorce his dad and take him away from his dad and the farm. Tristan didn't like that so he killed her. So that he wouldn't be taken away.
I’m also wondering if the dad knew it was the son because think about it…the dad stuck to his story about them not leaving each other’s sight the whole time yet the son claims to have went to get a drink of water. Doesn’t that mean the dad would have to confirm that did indeed happen? That little bit there probably would have had them questioning the son now right? Since it would look like dad was covering for him. Detectives were not detectiving 🤦🏻♀️
I absolutely think that when they hear "cheating wh*re" he's saying "one two three four" as in counting while he is trying to revive her. I'm shocked this wasn't brought up at all.
Honestly, him putting her in his truck & calling 911 en route is NOT that strange when you live in the middle of nowhere. Meeting an ambulance halfway is sometimes the ONLY way to save a life. Edit: Holy Cats! Over 9,500 likes & over 150 comments!!! Wow! Thx everybody!
I was thinking the same thing. Like growing up in a small town, it could take an hour or more for an ambulance to even arrive, and that’s way to long to wait around while a loved one is hurt or dying. So him getting her in the truck and leaving before calling the ambulance as he’s leaving makes literally so much sense to me.
RIGHT!! like imagine how long it’s gonna take for them to dispatch and get there when you literally have no time to waste! plus it’s a truck? where else was he gonna put her?😭
100%! This was my thought exactly. If he's in the middle of nowhere on a farm and the hospital is far away they may not even have emergency medical services there, especially in a town of only 800 people.
As someone who also acts impulsively in sudden, panicky situations- I saw myself doing the "drive to the hospital first, and call 911 on the way" decision as well if I were him. Especially if they lived so far away, I'd hope to bring her to the hospital as soon as possible and cut paramedic travelling time with however much closer I can get to the hospital using my car. I'm not saying Todd isn't guilty 100% but I definitely don't think there was enough, or even substantial evidence to convict him with that charge(yet). The dude deserves another trial. They judged him on textbook reactions and never considered how different individuals would react to situations.
I thought the same thing. Growing up in a rural area where the nearest decent hospital is like an hour away...ya, I could see hopping in the car first and then calling 911 on the way....
I used to live in the country and paramedics get lost out there all the time. When anything happened that needed us to get to the hospital, a lot of times we would just drive there.
Growing up we lived so far from the hospital my parents would just drive us. We were extremely poor. A bill from the hospital for an ambulance ride would have broke us.
100% - if you are 1 hour out from the hospital then: Explaining to the dispatchers, giving the address and waiting for the ambulance to find you = 1 hour. Get in the car and start driving and maybe meet the ambulance half way = 30 minutes. Not unreasonable in the heat of the moment to just go for it without really thinking.
What if she honestly fell? Because she was having dizzy spells. There was no splatter at the scene, and the space was so tight according to 48 hours you couldn’t really move in there. Or the son found out his mom was cheating on his dad and raged out. I think Todd is innocent tbh
I literally just put this under a different comment!!! Here I thought I was the only one!! Did anyone wonder about the son? Cause his story kept changing… maybe he found out his mom was cheating again, and planning on leaving his dad and taking everything. So he snapped? Cause he didn’t want to leave his dad and the farm? 🤔🤔🤔🤔the son went to get “water” right? So no one had eyes on him. Why wasn’t this looked into more?! Kids/teenagers have killed for less… I dunno I just got a weird feeling about him. Him being in the “house” made him closer to the red barn than his dad also… I dunno man. Somethings fucky about this situation…
Me too! I mean, he was the only inconsistent one throughout the story! And something tells me that he was the one responsible for the searches, not every one can accept their parent/s cheating especially in that age.
I kept thinking it was going to be revealed as the son. He found out his mum was cheating on his dad, maybe gave her something hence the dizziness, 'went to get water' and committed the crime! Maybe that's why he was so shaken up and traumatised in the car.. he could have also made the Google searches on his dads ipad
i don’t understand why they think it’s so weird he started driving her to the hospital. being out in the middle of nowhere, cops take forever. he could’ve easily believed he would’ve got her help faster, but to call them during so they are aware she is injured and she needs help.
Exactly! I had to do the same living 45 minutes from the nearest hospital when my nephew got hurt. Everyone knows that’s what you do when you live out in the middle of no where.
That's what I was thinking! I'm from Iowa, specifically I was in Rural Iowa, and the nearest emergency hospital was 40 minutes away from where I lived for YEARS until they FINALLY built a hospital 30 minutes away. As if that's much better though
YES! I cannot save your life at home but I can by driving to a hospital and saving time. BUT my fiancé who is a nurse also said actually, you could save their life by staying at the place and doing CPR so WHO KNOWS
I feel like Todd driving Amy to the hospital isn’t too suspicious or anything. They live in a rural area. I’m sure he knows the way to the hospital better than the ambulance would know the way to their farm.
I live in the midwest & it's super common for a farm accident. It's faster to get them to the hospital or at least the nearest town & meet the ambulance. I agree@
We've had to call the ambulance for my grandma a few times for difficulties with her diabetes and other medical reasons and they can almost never find our house and when they do it's already been about 45 minutes. We could've gotten her there quicker but we weren't able to move her at the time. So to me, driving that person yourself isn't strange at all. More heat of the moment, get them the help they need as soon as possible. (At least with me) when something happens you don't automatically think things through before hand and then later you go back and sort of rethink everything and how it could've gone a different way
Honestly, I wouldn't even find it unusual in a city. If you know how to get to the hospital, it may be the fastest option to get them to help. There would be plenty of situations where I might say, "Let's get rolling" rather than stop and make a call. Everyone has a cell phone, make the call en route!
Also Tod’s reaction to the questioning is actually pretty accurate. Especially in small towns with how little males are allowed to show emotions. We don’t have big break downs. No man cries at a death and women focus on caring for everyone before processing emotions. And small town rumors are very accurate where everyone knows everything. But affairs can be more easily hidden than you think. Lots of back roads that everyone knows like the back of their hand and just going for a drive is what you do. There aren’t places to hangout at. There is no park, mall, places people go. You steal the farm hand truck, you pick up your friends and go “cruising” down back roads.
I think your idea about Amy accidentally falling on the rake twice from dizziness is a real possibility. Todd definitely deserves a new trial with a decent defense team.
My first thought was it sounded like she may have fallen from dizziness. Especially after just having had surgery, and not feeling well, and add in if was hot out, and she could’ve been dehydrated. It honestly makes the most sense. It didn’t say if all the wounds were the same depth.
@@joeymiller5331 she was probably standing and and the corn rake was probably standing by the wall and she accidentally walked into it, but the holes weren’t deep so she took it out, felt dizzy or misstepped and fell on the rake much harder and then fell down.
@@joeymiller5331 or the second time she leaned on the rake she could’ve walked then felt dizzy and fall on her back which would explain if some of the holes were deeper than the others
As someone who used to live in the middle of nowhere, I would 100% start driving to a hospital before making a 911 call. Sometimes addresses way out there are hard to find and to wait all that time for emergency services to get to you then go all the way to the hospital from that point would take so much time. A few minutes could mean life or death.
That was exactly what I said when I heard this part. I grew up in the country, and it would take a long while for EMS to get to us, we would have Totally started driving. I feel this case is a Huge injustice.
When I lived in rual wyoming the nearest hospital was 45 min to call an ambulance and have them drive you back would take to long. 100% driving straight to the er.
I grew up on a farm in middle of nowhere Iowa. When I was a kid we didn't even have street names and house numbers. My address was Rural Route 1 Box 292. You have an emergency? You drive to the hospital and maybe the ambulance can meet you on the way. Cell service is spotty in areas, so it's normal to call on the way. His logic makes perfect sense.
Exactly! I live like 20 minutes away from the hospital in the mountains. When we've had to call 911 for my mother, it would take them 30-40 minutes to get to/find us. So it just ends up being quicker if we took her ourselves.
Because unfortunately investigators tend to be very narrow sighted. Once they believe they have the person or persons responsible they “stop investigating.”
I don’t think there was anything weird about him driving her to the hospital. They live in the middle of no where. It’s going to take much longer for the ambulance to get to them so he did what he thought was best. I think he’s innocent and it very likely could have been a freak accident. He deserves to have another trial. Another person in prison for no reason
Exactly!! I live way out in the middle of nowhere, had to drive an uncle til I met the ambulance just because it was faster. When they said it was strange behavior I was like 🙃 how 🙃
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I am actually from a town 10 minutes from Earlville and naturally this was very talked about, like you said everyone talks in small towns. A lot of people also were shocked they didn’t investigate the son as a suspect.
I think todd called 911 after taking her in the car because he knew that it was ganna take longer for the ambulance to come since they live so far away from hospitals
Yeah I live in the boonies and would do the exact same thing Todd did because I rather speed to get the hospital then wait an hour for an ambulance to get there and then have to drive back to get her to the hospital
Literally I live in Iowa not too far from Anamosa and I'm certain that's what happened. With a lot of these small towns they don't have their own fire department/ambulance/police/emergency services. You have to go to the nearest city for that. So when something happens in a small town, ambulances take F O R E V E R to get there and THEN they take F O R E V E R to get back to the hospital. It's honesetly just faster to go to the hospital yourselves, and alert 911 while you're already on your way. IDK why the cops thought that was so suspicious, that's literally what everyone in small towns out here does when something happens.
When I was younger I fell off a horse. Instead of my parents calling 911 they loaded me up into the truck and drove me to the hospital instead of waiting for an ambulance. I can totally see his point of view. FYI - My parents also never called 911 at all.
Yeah it makes sense to me, having grown up in a rual area. Ambulances take at least 30 minutes when we could just speed for 20 or less. And we dont have that kind of money
I am from a rural community and people do this all the time! Why wait for an ambulance to come, then transport the person back to the hospital, when you can have the person at the hospital before the ambulance even arrives?
April 6th, 2023 Todd has appealed for a new trial. Please let us get him help. We need to do something and save this man who is clearly innocent. His case was entirely mishandled. He deserves a second chance.
I don't know about "clearly innocent" but I definitely agree his case was mishandled. How was he found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt when there is obviously doubt. I'm not gonna start blaming the son like everyone else (cos thats just gross) but I do like Bailey's take on it, she slipped and did actually fall on it twice. I would like to see the area where she was found too.
@@Robin_Coffinsa lot of people believe he is covering for his son. His sons story kept changing and what have we learned from that? I believe he is innocent
Glad to see so many people also think the son is SUSPISH! Kids are often extremely angry when they find out a parent is cheating. He changed his story, left the barn, was gone for an unknown amount of time, more than likely had access to the iPad, and he's the one who found her!! Also, for the mayan part, what if he was learning about them in school and that's why he searched it?
Personally, I think that Todd was trying to cover for his son. Tristan’s story was the only one that changed AND he was the one who “found” his mom. Perhaps he saw an opportunity to overpower his mom in her weak state because he knew she was having affairs and thought his dad was being too lenient. And *IF* Tristan did it, he would have likely had blood on him, and that’s why Todd laid her body across him and Tristan in the car. So that the blood could be dismissed by doing this. Also, I have a difficult time believing a grown adult would search about ancient cultures doing away with adulterers. I don’t know, just seems kind of childish to me. On top of jewelry searches and Pinterest, other people besides Todd used the iPad. 🤷🏻♀️ Edit: I’m watching some of the court trial right now because at this point I’m invested, lol. And the son DID know about the affair! He said that his dad brought it up to him a few times.... motive? I think yes.
I actually forgot so it was a surprise for me. Happens after every break toi. I forget the 4th Monday and then by the 3rd Monday I sit and wait only to find out it's Monday 3.
As someone who worked on a farm and has used rakes most of my time on the farm I can confirm that it’s very unlikely that you could fall on a rake and end up with injuries like hers.
I do not understand why Tristan was not questioned more thoroughly. 1) He was the first person to find his mom. What if he found her in a compromised position and took advantage of the opportunity? She would not have suspected him to hurt her, so she wouldn’t have struggled with him too much. 2) He left his dad and went to get water changing the time he was gone throughout the course of the investigation. Suspish 3) Tristan most likely would have been able to turn off of the cameras just as easily as his dad. 4) He also would have been able to use his dads iPad to make google searches. 5) He played sports with the Jerry’s kids, is it possible the kids found out about the affair and Tristan decided to take matters into his own hands? 6) Also, do you think Tristan was planning on eventually taking over the farm? Perhaps the idea of divorce and having the farm broken up would have spoiled his future plans? I lived in rural PA most of life and though farming is hard work, it’s also a fairly lucrative business that perhaps Tristan was willing to give up? I’ve got so many questions here.
I didn't even think about Tristan and Jerry's kids. That could be an angle. It's entirely possible either Tristan or Todd found the search history for the wedding dresses and jewelry. I would be more interested in WHEN these searches took place.
I was thinking the same thing. I kind of suspect the son, too. Everybody was just focused on the husband and forgot about the son. I am not saying that the son is guilty, it is just suspicious.
ya , he could have been p*ssed at his Mom but still that she was dizzy and stuff still leads me to believe she fell BUT hey, again, seriously faulty defense, WHY didnt the defense try to pin it on Tristan as a way to get his DAD off or create reasonable doubt?
Why did no one look into the son? He had timing and opportunity and could have resented his mother for breaking up the family by her affairs just as much as the father would have.
As a 911 operator for almost 10 years, it’s not uncommon for people in rural areas to take it upon themselves to drive people to the hospital, sometimes it can take up to a half an hour for an ambulance just to get to the scene of the accident. I’ve taken a lot of calls from people who call 911 while they’re en route to the hospital with the person because they feel like they can get them to the hospital sooner than waiting for the ambulance to get to them and then transport back to the hospital which in a lot of cases is true.
911 dispatcher here too, and yes! We have many calls like this. I work in a rural county and in certain parts of the county it can take up to 45 minutes for ems to arrive. Def not uncommon for this to happen.
Very true! I grew up in a very small town like this. There were less than 500 people in my town, and we were almost an hour from the next town over where the closest hospital was located. 911 wasn't even used much because of that. If someone had an emergency, you hopped in a car and had someone take you.
ER nurse here. This absolutely happens. I used to worked in a town where the next nearest hospital was 20 miles away. At least once a week someone would do something like this. Also, people do this all the time with their children. It’s rare (I don’t work in a children’s hospital but the city I live in now has one) for a child to come to my hospital by EMS. I’ve taken care of very sick/injured kids whose parents just tossed them in the car and drove them. This is not uncommon.
We are not even that far out of town and when I was having a miscarriage my husband drove me to the hospital. Its double time if you wait for an ambulance. There's only so much EMT's can do, they are there to try and get you stable enough to get to a hospital where they have more resources. If you are needing surgery to stop internal bleeding, that's not happening in an ambulance.
The fact that this guy was found guilty and Casey Anthony roams free, blows my freakin mind. She had suspicions google searches and a dead body smell in her trunk. Smdh
Eh, I think Casey is an example of our justice system actually working, I know that’s controversial but... they couldn’t prove guilt without a doubt and focused on wild theories instead of facts. I think she 100% did it but Nancy Grace did a better job proving it than the prosecutors did.
Does it drive anyone else crazy is these cases, that when someone is quiet it means they have no emotion and when the are loud they are over doing it? Either way their emotion and actions are wrong and prove they are guilty. Drives me nuts!
It goes to show if they wanna pin it on you, no matter how you react, they re always gonna make it fit their narrative. I was personally shocked to hear him driving her to the hopsital would pmay against him.
Or the fact that he put her in the truck before calling 911. If he is far enough away from medical treatment, he might be wanting to her to the hospital quicker than if an ambulance was sent out 🤷♀️ there are so many ways a person in distress could react
When you're such a great story teller that I still listen upon realizing I've listened to this over a year ago and I still listen to it again. RIP Amy poor lady.
I grew up REALLY rural and we were always taught get in the car and then call 911. We lived down a mile long dirt road that I don’t even think an ambulance could make it down
When the ambulance has to come from another county most of the time they can't find you. Country life like that is different. You kind of have to live it to understand it.
yep! I don’t live super rural but small lanes mean ambulances can’t even fit through ... seriously , someone fell and hit there head (they were fine luckily) and the paramedics had to leave the ambulance to walk down.
Bingo..that is exactly what i was thinking. In my are our 911 address is almost a half a mile from our house so if someone needed direction it would be very difficult. I think it very plausible that he just started driving maybe to a main road or somewhere he knew they could find. It was probably an unconscious decision.
Ok, but did anyone question the relationship between Tristen and his mother? Because he was 14 and grew up on a farm, he would certainly be strong enough, could have the same motive as his father, knowledge of the cameras, and access to the iPad. He also left his father to “go get water” he doesn't know how long he was gone, and he was the one to discover his mother. Did anyone say how long he was out there getting the pet carrier? 🤷♀️
As much as I wouldn't want to believe it was Tristan, it would have been worth looking into. He knows his way around a farm and it's equipment, had heard about the previous affair plus maybe the new one (kids the same age, maybe wifey didn't realize parents were sneaking off but kids did?), and a lot of farm kids are dedicated to that lifestyle
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING! No one questioned him at all! Like, he could have known about his mum cheating, that is extremely upsetting to a child! I think they definitely should have looked into the son.
I don’t think he got a fair trial. Unanswered questions and bad legal counsel. What was up with son? Was he working against his dad? Was the son involved? I’ve known a lot of farmers and many of them respond slowly and are very stoic.
THE ENTIRE TIME I was like “what if she was feeling guilty and searched those thing?” And when you said that I said “what not to do” with you! I feel like this was a terrible thing that happened but there was not sufficient evidence to prove the husband did it, and by our laws we are innocent until PROVEN guilty. I feel like the doubt should’ve been placed in jurors minds for sure and our justice system failed this poor woman, her children, and her husband.
I agree with you. Not to mention, some of the things he said were so elaborate (like why the cameras were offline), yet he didn't say much in his own defense (like how he could make it to the red barn and back without his son noticing). Guilty people will grasp at straws and say any and every thing to make themselves seem innocent.
Some guilty people, usually only those that actually feel guilty. It's easier to lie when you aren't feeling anxious about the situation, though. Many killers have never changed their story and are only in prison due to evidence found.
YES! My way of processing grief is just pretending the person does not exist. I can't engage with my grief emotionally because I won't be able to keep going
And he had been dealing with it for so long. He sat in jail for seven months before he even got the trial. Weird that people expect him to act like it just happened when he'd had half a year+ to think about it daily.
Idk...I grew up on a ranch. I’ve seen some freak accidents. I do believe Todd deserves a retrial because this trial didn’t seem fair. Either way, Rest In Peace Amy.
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@@LisaMarie-fk5wb Maybe but i feel like the son had no motive to do so, and the cop mentioned that the son seemed traumatized holding his dead mom with her blood on him
@@Idk-lf7fe he could have been upset that his mom was having an affair on his dad, and he was "technically " the only person out of sight to grab a drink of water, he could have snuck into the barn
It's like the whole yanny/laurel thing! If you are thinking one thing, you will hear it even though it is the SAME AUDIO! They were already thinking he was guilty so they heard something incriminating.
I’m a bit curious as to why they didn’t ask the son what he was saying. He was a witness and I highly doubt he would be bashing his sons mother in front of the son while she’s dying. This case is definitely a frustrating one
the son might not have been right next to the dad and mom to hear everything, or if he was, maybe he was too in shock to really be paying attention to whatever the dad was saying.
The Aztec search really makes me suspect the teenage son even more because he would likely be learning about them in school. If I were an investigator, I'd find out his curiculum. He probably knew about his Mom's affairs, and I can't imagine he'd be very happy with her. The fact that he changed his story and was the only one alone with her... Very suspicious.
I was thinking that too !! And like he’s the one that went to grab a glass of water which probably brought him closer to his mother more than Todd having to run through the field ... it’s just a bit too weird for me
And the son would gain access to the farm and the income while his dad is in the slammer. And the son was the one that kept changing his story. Very interesting!
As a person who lives on a farm, I would like to know WHERE Tristan went to get water. Did he just go to the nearest sink? Drink it out of the hose? Go to the office? Walk all the way back to the house? If someone had only asked him that we would have a lot more information about how long he was gone. Personally, I think it was either an accident or it was Tristan.
I thought this as well. He said it was only a minute or two and then changed his mind to say he wasn’t sure, but if they asked him where the water was they could much more easily come up with a timeline. I think the kid did it honestly.
I hate how most of the wife’s friends thought that the husband was mean and horrible like, the wife could’ve been lying to her friends. People do that.
Sooo true! Just like when ppl cheat, they will tell the person they are cheating with that their partner is a horrible person etc but lying the whole time
Also what friends support someone cheating on their husband?! Because Bailey mentioned that Amy was having an affair with Jerry and she told her friend about it so like what type of person is that friend? I'm so mad at how they are blaming her husband but it's so unfair to him to find out that she was cheating even after he asked Jerry's wife.
@@MarauderetteForever that’s what I was thinking. Like if I was your friend and you were cheating in your husband. I would not support you and try to talk you out of doing it or tell the husband. So wrong. Very strange case
Aztecs? Sounds like maybe the kid was learning about Aztecs in school and connected it with his mom’s actions.. because that’s a really odd thing for an adult to want to know.. 🤔
yes those sounded like kids searches like what adult would read a “10 things about cheating women” on the family iPad like why would he go to google about cheating like he didn’t already go through it?
Exactly what I thought!!! I remember learning about Aztecs in my school curriculum in my last year in middle school. I would certainly lean towards that being the case, it would seem random for Todd to be googling that.
Growing up on a beef ranch, I know first hand, you are taught from a very young age that bad things can happen if you're not careful around farm equipment. If something does happen, you start driving to the hospital, then call for help because help simply can't get to you fast enough and it could be the difference between life and death. You also take on farm responsibilities from a young age. You learn about life's beginnings and ends very early. It does not surprise me at all that he started driving, then called 911. The ambulance can get to them faster if he can meet them half way. It also doesn't surprise me that the mother was laid on the son's lap. The father was the only one who could drive, so that left the oldest child to jump in and help stabilize. This is incredibly sad and I feel so badly for this family. Truly misrepresented and not given a fair trial.
I too, living in Alaska, know to drive and the ambulance will meet you. I mean it’s a small town. Not like there’s a million routes to the hospital. However keeping the heart pumping oxygen to her brain is also important so CPR needed to get started. Hence him stopping to preform CPR once it was brought to his attention.
My husband and I were screaming all of these things at the TV!! I completely agree and think a lot of his actions are understandable when you are familiar with extremely rural living and the silent reserved farmer type. He reacted in a way that would have given his wife the best chance, not like a man that wanted her dead. So sad...
My boyfriend farms and his address always sends anyone to the wrong location.. so living out in the middle of nowhere it seems like common sense to drive anyone closer to town.. especially if there is someone to stabilize the injured person or do CPR on the way. Or if the locations aren’t 100% accurate like they are when you live in town, that could cost a life too.
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Exactly! And it's the fact that Todd sent Tristan to the barn in the first place that makes me think he's innocent. Why on Earth would he traumatize his son by making him find his mother's corpse?
I really think it was the son, it’s the most logical thing. Plus depending on how big the son is, a child could probably fit in a narrow space just fine
Yes!! I had this feeling when he just happened to go for water right when his mum was "killed" and he would also know where the cameras were to disable them. Suspish
The son! We don’t no exactly where he is during this, he could have searched everything. He probably saw his mother’s searches and heard some of her phone calls. So many things point to the son!
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I was wondering if maybe they kept asking and asking that confused and traumatized kid, suggesting that one maybe had to get some water… until he wasn't sure wether he maybe really did do that. Just heard a casefile about 6 people confessing to a crime they didn't do bc of interrogation practices.
rewatching this again, and i’m wondering two things: why didn’t they assume it was the son? maybe he was the one who was searching up the creepy google searches [mom more than likely was looking up wedding dresses for her and Jerry?] (i thought this the first time, but my brain got going) and two, why didn’t they test the corn rake for prints other than todd’s?
I just finished watching this and i feel the son had the opportunity to do this while back at the "house" getting water. Maybe he was angry about what his mum had done (twice now) I also wonder what happened to the other two kids when they got in the truck to go to the hospital? So many questions! Guilty or not guilty his sentence was extreme for a case with no physical evidence.
RIGHT! I immediately thought it was the son! I mean he found her, he went to „get a glass of water“ and he was probably mad at his mom for cheating. Maybe his dad is trying to protect him
Apparently, it was later said that it was in fact his son's searches because "they had studied something about the Aztecs". HTF was that not questioned or brought up??? It's obvious he knew about the affairs by the searches alone!
Fr, my first reaction I would hope is to take the person to the hospital as quickly as possible instead of calling and wasting time. Just my opinion though 🤷🏻♀️idk
i agree with you. it's either call 911 and have responders drive out to the farm and then back to the hospital, which would take twice the amount of time, or drive there to the hospital himself. it's a hard decision but in the moment, i can see how he would decide to drive her there himself.
I love how Bailey always describes small towns, bc I grew up in one and it’s honestly so true 😭 everyone loves to gossip, especially the Mississippi ladies I grew up with-
I live on a farm in rural Canada, and have needed to go to the hospital, we can drive faster to the hospital than the ambluence can get to us. Its part of rural living. Also, living on the farm there are so many freak deaths. Its really tragic. I can't believe the American justice system would lock him away for his entire life with such little physical evidence.
My fiancé's family lives in a rural part of California, where the closest ER is 2 hours away. I can totally see people starting the drive and calling 911 on the way there. It really doesn't seem that strange to me
I live around 1 hour away from an ok hospital, 1.5hrs-2.5hrs to way better hospitals. I would also drive and call 911 on the way. When I was having frequent and very long gallbladder attacks, we called the ambulance 1 time and it took them a total of 3 hours to get me to the ‘just ok’ hospital.
I was thinking the same thing, like that makes complete sense to me to start driving towards hospital when you live in a rural area. Like you can get to the hospital faster than waiting for an ambulance.
I live in rural Alabama and if there is a emergency most people drive the person to the hospital because usually you can get there faster than a ambulance would. Also I grew up on a small farm and freak accident can easily happen.
The searches don't sound like they were made by an adult. My theory is that the son found out about the affair and killed his mother while he was "getting water"
Yes I was just about to say that I was thinking that the whole time. It’s very weird to me how he switched up his alibi, he didn’t hear nothing, he probably has access to the cameras, and how long did it take for you to get water. He’s very suspicious his motive could’ve been how he found out his mother was in an affair and about her plans to divorce and just lashed out
Did the kid know of the affair? Were they a religious family and the kid is faithful to his faith? And like another person said, why wasn't the kid questioned.
This story keep me up at night and I think about it so often. I am from Iowa about 2hrs away from Earlville Iowa and I always thought on why nobody has mentioned or questioned the son?!?! Also am from a small town and it isn’t the greatest, everyone knows everything almost about you.
the son was super traumatized, covered in blood, and unaccounted for. he could have got mad at his mom and just boom, crime of passion. and the dad willingly took the fall, which would also explain his demeanor in court since he knew that if someone was going down for it it was gonna be him because he was making sure it wasn’t the son.
That is exactly what I was thinking as soon as she said the son changed his story three times. Todd also chose to lay his wife across his son, so if there was any blood spatter on him previously it would have been covered up. I came to the comments to see if more people felt this way, but apparently not. I hope it was just an accident, we may never get the truth though.
As a retired rural police officer, it’s very very very common to intercept patients on the way to the hospital or transported by helicopter it’s rare that an ambulance actually makes it too the location of the accident but the kid did it for sure.
Agreed. It didn’t seem odd at all that he would immediately start towards the hospital then call 911. Waiting around to call doesn’t help, while getting on the move does.
Todd grabbing his wife and trying to drive her to the nearest hospital makes sense to me. My parents live in the country and when people live in the country usually your a distance away from help so I can see the logic of it needed to act fast because you have no idea when help would arrive if you stay and just wait
Same thoughts there. 💯 You don't just sit there and wait for help when you can drive over yourself! Sometimes it is even faster than waiting for ambulance to arrive. Like, seriously.
When my stepdad had a heart attack, it was way faster to drive him to the hospital than to wait for ambulance. When I nearly died from my pulmonary embolism, it was way faster to have a neighbor run me to the hospital than wait for an ambulance (would have been SO but he left 30 mins earlier to go out of town). So that makes perfect sense to me - why would you wait during a life threatening emergency?!
I agree! I live way out in the sticks. I was having a severe allergic reaction one night and my daughter started driving me to the er. She called 911 on the way and had them meet us in the nearest small town. I don't know if I would have made it if we waited on an ambulance but I also don't know if I would have made it if she drove me the entire way. The paramedics were able to start an iv and get meds started. Thankfully, my daughter's a smart cookie.
Imagine being cheated on by your spouse then charged with their death then get put away for life and never see your kid again. If he's innocent, that's got to be so incredibly sad..
And the sad thing is there are so many innocent people incarcerated......then it takes so long to get out again. Basically either way is life is ruined, because even if he gets another trial and is found NOT GUILTY....people in the town will always wonder and will have this question hanging over his head. People who have spent 20 years in jail and then been freed say that the sense of guilt always stays there from others...it puts a black cloud over your name even being innocent...... unfair ....and many people have confessed to crimes they never committed because cops wear them down over such a long period of time, they just end up saying they did it when they didn’t ....at least this guy never changed his story. They say when you are innocent the story NEVER changes but when guilty, it keeps changing even just a bit, but add them all together and they are usually guilty.
Comments Add a public comment... Pinned by Bailey Sarian Bailey Sarian hi friends, I dont know what I think about this one. He may be guilty but like...... was that enough proof for his sentence?? I just dont know.... Editing to add: Jerry’s wife had a solid alibi, she was across town volunteering and many saw her at the time of Amy’s death. 3 days ago (edited) 8.2K 375 BADudet Yo Am right at the 911 call playback clip. & I was just thinking that almost always when you are performing CPR chest compressions you will (and are advised) to count them aloud for yourself and for the dispatcher your on 911 with as you do them to keep track of your compressions because typically once you get to 30 chest compression you then administer 2 rescue breaths and then repeat that cycle. It's definitely a possibility that him saying "Cheating h**e " May actually be him counting "24" aloud.
It was deffo the kid, he had the opportunity when he “went to get water”. He had motive that his mom was cheating on his dad. He could have been the one googling that stuff to justify his actions. AND he’s the only one who changed his story. Seems suspish to me
7:00 Does anyone else find it SUPER suspish that Tristan says he “checked for a pulse and THEN yelled for his dad”? If I walked up to my mom’s body laying on the ground with a friggin rake sticking out of her back, I’d start screaming my lungs out before even reaching her body, let alone before checking for her pulse. Not sure what this indicates, but it sounds fishy as heck to me.
I was going to sa this. I know I am late on this Due to just finding her account. How ever I thought it was Tristan pretty much all the video. Just the way he acted when he found his mom and also all the other evidence. Nothing made since to me.
I think the cameras were disconnected because Amy didn't want to be caught on camera having an affair. If this guy is innocent and was actually cheated on three times and arrested, I feel so bad for him.
She wouldnt disconnect the cameras. Most women wont even think to do that let alone i doubt she would bring someone else around thier kids and thier farm knowing the dads there or could pop up. She would have went to him
@@brittnicole2438 i doubt she would've brought anyone home, but who's to say she didn't try to sneak away and meet them somewhere that's close by or smth? idk, this whole case is obviously a set-up and the potholes make my head spiral.
@@blackiggy I wish if he did it he would admit it or the truth came out. They should have investigated more but i feel they didnt do what they should have.
I think it’s weird that the dad would have asked the son to grab the pet carrier out of the shed if he had killed her. Why would he want his son to see that?
Hey guys don’t forget that the son actually totally changed his story during the trial... I’m thinking as many others in the comments section that Todd might be covering his son’s mistake... Maybe the son just lost control and called his dad right after attacking the mother and the dad just thought that he wouldn’t want his son to ruin his life so he took all the blame... Think of it that way, the search history was a little off to me and his son might have just gone carried away when rumors started spreading that her mom was cheating, and even probably insulted, you know how it is with kids. Maybe he thought that his dad doing nothing wasn’t right and confronted his mother in the barn. If she didn’t have any remorse or told him she wanted to leave his father, taking some of their money, their family life and everything, he might have lost it... Pushed her or something and accidentally killed her... I don’t know it’s just a theory but I’m really thinking that the dad wasn’t going to go that far because he already had been cheating on and handled it really well at the time... He wanted this to work for his family and probably was ready to still try to figure it out after everything... The story of the son seems so off when the dad never changed his version...
What if it was the son? Like everyone in town had been gossiping about her having an affair so the son “went to get some water” but really he killed her.
Having grown up in the middle of no-where, you act first, communicate second in an emergency. You are literally the best person in a 20 minute drive to handle a crisis, purely because you're the only one there. When my mom died in our house, we did the pulse check and fumbled around for a few minutes in shock before I thought to call 911. Out of 5 adults, only one mentioned calling 911. It's one of those things you never think you'll ever have to do.
The whole time I was really bothered by people judging him for taking her to the hospital. He jumped into action, he acted in the moment. "He shouldnt have laid her on their son" his other options are putting one of them in the bed, leaving their traumatized son alone or putting her in first and making the son sit on her. I think he chose the best option with what he had. No one knows what they would do in that situation.
Exactly. Coming from a small town myself where there’s loads of farms, I saw nothing weird or wrong with him getting in and driving her. He could meet the ambulance half way to the hospital.
Agreed! Where I grew up the nearest actual hospital was an hour away. Even to call an ambulance, it could take 30-60 mins just for them to show up! It makes more sense to call while heading to the hospital than to wait the extra time for an ambulance!
Exactly. My grandparents live in a verrrrry rural area and it's faster for them to drive themselves to the ER than to call 911. It would take 45 mins just for someone to get to them.
Todd looked like he was going to cry when listening to that 911 call. He seems innocent to me, because he never changed his story and the physical evidence doesn't add up. He got railroaded. The Google searches could have been Amy's.
This case has reasonable doubt, circumstantial evidence and incompetent counsel written all over it. If I was on the jury, no way I would’ve voted guilty.
Wait... if she was cheating SOMETIMES ON THE FARM, could THAT be why the cameras stopped? Like, she didn't want to be seen with some other guy on farm cameras...
*BIG BRAIN TIME*
Huh.. thats interesting. So plausible
This is exactly why I read the comment section. Waiting for someone to think the same thing I was thinking. With that said does the camera have a digital record that it is being turned on and off. Also it sounds like the husband didn't leave the farm. If him finding out pig mean her life would she take the chance o f him or her children catching her. Our story teller really is correct. There is an enormous amount of unanswered questions and I believe she said if I'm not mistaken that she watched the whole trial. This channel sure gets you thinking
Yep i don't think Todd did it, just seems weird 🤔
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Is crazy to me they were able to find him guilty yet someone like Casey Anthony roams the streets🙍♀️ Not saying he isn't guilty but to reach that verdict with no evidence seems like a stretch right?
Seriously! Our justice system is so skewed!
PREACH IT, YES. Those two cases compared, it’s just like... what... wha... WHAT!?
Yeah, GREAT point!
Totally agree!!! I was gonna mention her in my comment!
Exactly what I said
As a 911 dispatcher of 13 years, I can tell you LOTS of people act and THEN call 911. The fact that he got her in the truck and started driving and then called is actually pretty normal. Also, if you ever get impaled on an object, don't remove it. It might just save your life. Love your videos Bailey!
Thank you for what you do.♥️
,cuts out an extra trip
I feel like it makes more sense to do that if you live in the middle of nowhere saves time waiting on ambulance to arrive and then take someone back to the hospital
I would also have jumped in the truck first, then called 911 as I was driving in order to lessen the time waiting. Precious seconds can be wasted trying to save a life by stalling.
I lived in secluded country for many years, and my plan of action in case of emergency never included calling and waiting for an ambulance. Action first, call for help second.
I immediately thought of the son, Tristan. Like he was the one who found the body, he was alone going to get water, which was a lot closer to the red shed than his father was...what if he did it? And of course, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE INVESTIGATORS?! No one thought to, I dunno, INVESTIGATE?
American police seem to do this all the time it’s like they are fixated on somebody from the beginning and all they do is try to prove that guilt rather than remain open-minded. I’m 100% sure almost at least 90% that it was O.J. Simpson son that killed Nicole and not O.J. Simpson but O.J. Simpson went to the scene to drive his son away hence getting blood from the scene. The thing is the parent would probably rather go down than frame their own child but I guess would ideally like both to get off with it
I heard the last couple sentences in Bailey's voice 😂 It sounds so much like her
A lot of people think it was the son Tristan as well. They should have looked into that more. They still should. So silly.
Oh I 100% think it was the son it makes more sense 🤷🏼 he probably found out his mom cheated and was going to divorce his dad and take him away from his dad and the farm. Tristan didn't like that so he killed her. So that he wouldn't be taken away.
I’m also wondering if the dad knew it was the son because think about it…the dad stuck to his story about them not leaving each other’s sight the whole time yet the son claims to have went to get a drink of water. Doesn’t that mean the dad would have to confirm that did indeed happen? That little bit there probably would have had them questioning the son now right? Since it would look like dad was covering for him. Detectives were not detectiving 🤦🏻♀️
I absolutely think that when they hear "cheating wh*re" he's saying "one two three four" as in counting while he is trying to revive her. I'm shocked this wasn't brought up at all.
Exactly!
Oh wow, great thought!
Right me too...... I dont get it
I don't think he was doing CPR at that time.
I immediately thought that!
Honestly, him putting her in his truck & calling 911 en route is NOT that strange when you live in the middle of nowhere. Meeting an ambulance halfway is sometimes the ONLY way to save a life.
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I was thinking the same thing. Like growing up in a small town, it could take an hour or more for an ambulance to even arrive, and that’s way to long to wait around while a loved one is hurt or dying. So him getting her in the truck and leaving before calling the ambulance as he’s leaving makes literally so much sense to me.
RIGHT!! like imagine how long it’s gonna take for them to dispatch and get there when you literally have no time to waste! plus it’s a truck? where else was he gonna put her?😭
I think so too!!! And you clearly don’t think straight in this kind of situation
100%! This was my thought exactly. If he's in the middle of nowhere on a farm and the hospital is far away they may not even have emergency medical services there, especially in a town of only 800 people.
I didn’t think there was anything wrong with that either I would have done the same.
As someone who also acts impulsively in sudden, panicky situations- I saw myself doing the "drive to the hospital first, and call 911 on the way" decision as well if I were him. Especially if they lived so far away, I'd hope to bring her to the hospital as soon as possible and cut paramedic travelling time with however much closer I can get to the hospital using my car. I'm not saying Todd isn't guilty 100% but I definitely don't think there was enough, or even substantial evidence to convict him with that charge(yet). The dude deserves another trial. They judged him on textbook reactions and never considered how different individuals would react to situations.
I thought the same thing. Growing up in a rural area where the nearest decent hospital is like an hour away...ya, I could see hopping in the car first and then calling 911 on the way....
I used to live in the country and paramedics get lost out there all the time. When anything happened that needed us to get to the hospital, a lot of times we would just drive there.
I said the same thing. Especially if i lived in the country
Growing up we lived so far from the hospital my parents would just drive us. We were extremely poor. A bill from the hospital for an ambulance ride would have broke us.
100% - if you are 1 hour out from the hospital then: Explaining to the dispatchers, giving the address and waiting for the ambulance to find you = 1 hour. Get in the car and start driving and maybe meet the ambulance half way = 30 minutes. Not unreasonable in the heat of the moment to just go for it without really thinking.
What if she honestly fell? Because she was having dizzy spells. There was no splatter at the scene, and the space was so tight according to 48 hours you couldn’t really move in there. Or the son found out his mom was cheating on his dad and raged out. I think Todd is innocent tbh
Yea I thought that he same that the son found out she was cheating
Yea if it was a small town maybe he was getting teased or confronted at school or something
I honestly feel like she was dizzy and fell backwards, trust me in summer I'm always dizzy and it happens
I literally just put this under a different comment!!! Here I thought I was the only one!!
Did anyone wonder about the son? Cause his story kept changing… maybe he found out his mom was cheating again, and planning on leaving his dad and taking everything. So he snapped? Cause he didn’t want to leave his dad and the farm? 🤔🤔🤔🤔the son went to get “water” right? So no one had eyes on him. Why wasn’t this looked into more?! Kids/teenagers have killed for less… I dunno I just got a weird feeling about him. Him being in the “house” made him closer to the red barn than his dad also… I dunno man. Somethings fucky about this situation…
@@TheOriginalTinySatan the dad could be taking the blame for his son, we don’t know but I agree, something is funky!
This is driving me nuts because the entire time I'm listening to the story I'm like why is no one questioning the son???????
He went out and found mom. Could have hurt her then and then called for Dad? Because his story changed suddenly. This is going to keep me up.
Me too! I mean, he was the only inconsistent one throughout the story! And something tells me that he was the one responsible for the searches, not every one can accept their parent/s cheating especially in that age.
how come jerry's wife was never suspected either! she was my first guess when Bailey was talking about the phone call.
One thing I keep wondering is what if Amy was worried that she would be killed for cheating, and she made the searches to see how common it was?
I kept thinking it was going to be revealed as the son. He found out his mum was cheating on his dad, maybe gave her something hence the dizziness, 'went to get water' and committed the crime! Maybe that's why he was so shaken up and traumatised in the car.. he could have also made the Google searches on his dads ipad
i don’t understand why they think it’s so weird he started driving her to the hospital. being out in the middle of nowhere, cops take forever. he could’ve easily believed he would’ve got her help faster, but to call them during so they are aware she is injured and she needs help.
Exactly! You drive in the direction of the hospital and the ambulance comes towards you! She gets medical attention in a lot less time!
I know aye. Takes 2hrs to drive to place, maybe meet in the middle and make it 1hr. Every minute counts!
Exactly! I had to do the same living 45 minutes from the nearest hospital when my nephew got hurt. Everyone knows that’s what you do when you live out in the middle of no where.
That's what I was thinking! I'm from Iowa, specifically I was in Rural Iowa, and the nearest emergency hospital was 40 minutes away from where I lived for YEARS until they FINALLY built a hospital 30 minutes away. As if that's much better though
YES! I cannot save your life at home but I can by driving to a hospital and saving time. BUT my fiancé who is a nurse also said actually, you could save their life by staying at the place and doing CPR so WHO KNOWS
I feel like Todd driving Amy to the hospital isn’t too suspicious or anything. They live in a rural area. I’m sure he knows the way to the hospital better than the ambulance would know the way to their farm.
I live in the midwest & it's super common for a farm accident. It's faster to get them to the hospital or at least the nearest town & meet the ambulance. I agree@
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, like it would take too long to wait for them to get to their house.
Same. This seems absolutely normal for a farmer in a rural area.
We've had to call the ambulance for my grandma a few times for difficulties with her diabetes and other medical reasons and they can almost never find our house and when they do it's already been about 45 minutes. We could've gotten her there quicker but we weren't able to move her at the time. So to me, driving that person yourself isn't strange at all. More heat of the moment, get them the help they need as soon as possible. (At least with me) when something happens you don't automatically think things through before hand and then later you go back and sort of rethink everything and how it could've gone a different way
Honestly, I wouldn't even find it unusual in a city. If you know how to get to the hospital, it may be the fastest option to get them to help. There would be plenty of situations where I might say, "Let's get rolling" rather than stop and make a call. Everyone has a cell phone, make the call en route!
Also Tod’s reaction to the questioning is actually pretty accurate. Especially in small towns with how little males are allowed to show emotions. We don’t have big break downs. No man cries at a death and women focus on caring for everyone before processing emotions.
And small town rumors are very accurate where everyone knows everything. But affairs can be more easily hidden than you think. Lots of back roads that everyone knows like the back of their hand and just going for a drive is what you do. There aren’t places to hangout at. There is no park, mall, places people go. You steal the farm hand truck, you pick up your friends and go “cruising” down back roads.
I think your idea about Amy accidentally falling on the rake twice from dizziness is a real possibility. Todd definitely deserves a new trial with a decent defense team.
How can a corn rake go into her back take itself out and then go back into her back, while she's on her hands and knees?
My first thought was it sounded like she may have fallen from dizziness. Especially after just having had surgery, and not feeling well, and add in if was hot out, and she could’ve been dehydrated. It honestly makes the most sense. It didn’t say if all the wounds were the same depth.
@@joeymiller5331 she was probably standing and and the corn rake was probably standing by the wall and she accidentally walked into it, but the holes weren’t deep so she took it out, felt dizzy or misstepped and fell on the rake much harder and then fell down.
@@joeymiller5331 or the second time she leaned on the rake she could’ve walked then felt dizzy and fall on her back which would explain if some of the holes were deeper than the others
Maybe she fell on it, was alert enough to remove it but then got dizzy and fell on it again, and then tried to crawl while it was still in her back
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Oh yes, same here!
I came here for this comment! SOOO THE SON! The search history was so blatant like a setup
@@KATHERlNE yes!
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As someone who used to live in the middle of nowhere, I would 100% start driving to a hospital before making a 911 call. Sometimes addresses way out there are hard to find and to wait all that time for emergency services to get to you then go all the way to the hospital from that point would take so much time. A few minutes could mean life or death.
That was exactly what I said when I heard this part. I grew up in the country, and it would take a long while for EMS to get to us, we would have Totally started driving. I feel this case is a Huge injustice.
When I lived in rual wyoming the nearest hospital was 45 min to call an ambulance and have them drive you back would take to long. 100% driving straight to the er.
AGREED!
I grew up on a farm in middle of nowhere Iowa. When I was a kid we didn't even have street names and house numbers. My address was Rural Route 1 Box 292. You have an emergency? You drive to the hospital and maybe the ambulance can meet you on the way. Cell service is spotty in areas, so it's normal to call on the way. His logic makes perfect sense.
Exactly! I live like 20 minutes away from the hospital in the mountains. When we've had to call 911 for my mother, it would take them 30-40 minutes to get to/find us. So it just ends up being quicker if we took her ourselves.
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Bailey: my google searches are yikes
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I think it is just one of those words that are weird to say. I can't say it either. Lol
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The son is the ONLY one who changed his story... suspish
Exactly, and the was one who found her.
@@carmenrodrigues727 and he was covered in blood
@@troudulapin7061 he sure was, why didn't they check for finger prints. And take the boys shirt as evidence as well.
And he was the one who got to house which was closer to that barn
Yes! Why wasn't he questioned? Or are we not going to talk about him?
He found her right? He left his dad for water.... did he actually get water?
I’m so glad I’m not the only one suspicious of Tristan, the son. He was alone a few times but nobody is questioning him
Or the Jerry guy or his wife.
Okay…. But if the son left his dad “to get a drink” why aren’t they questioning the son more?
EXACTLY!!!!!!
EXACTLY
That's what I thought too!
MY EXACT THOUGHTS!!!!! The son found out and was "protecting" his dad!!
Because unfortunately investigators tend to be very narrow sighted. Once they believe they have the person or persons responsible they “stop investigating.”
I don’t think there was anything weird about him driving her to the hospital. They live in the middle of no where. It’s going to take much longer for the ambulance to get to them so he did what he thought was best. I think he’s innocent and it very likely could have been a freak accident. He deserves to have another trial. Another person in prison for no reason
I too think it may have been a freak accident or Julie found out about the affair
I totally agree!! I didn’t think anything weird about what he did, then everyone was like “strange behavior.” And I’m like oh…
Exactly!! I live way out in the middle of nowhere, had to drive an uncle til I met the ambulance just because it was faster. When they said it was strange behavior I was like 🙃 how 🙃
Exactly
I agree 100%. much faster to hop in the truck then calling and waiting.
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I am actually from a town 10 minutes from Earlville and naturally this was very talked about, like you said everyone talks in small towns. A lot of people also were shocked they didn’t investigate the son as a suspect.
I think todd called 911 after taking her in the car because he knew that it was ganna take longer for the ambulance to come since they live so far away from hospitals
I live in the "middle of nowhere" and this is exactly what we would do....although with that type of injury, we would just call life flight ourselves.
Came here to say this, 99% what happened imo. Especially since SHE WORKED THERE BEFORE so he probably knew how to get there quickly if needed.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah I live in the boonies and would do the exact same thing Todd did because I rather speed to get the hospital then wait an hour for an ambulance to get there and then have to drive back to get her to the hospital
Literally I live in Iowa not too far from Anamosa and I'm certain that's what happened. With a lot of these small towns they don't have their own fire department/ambulance/police/emergency services. You have to go to the nearest city for that. So when something happens in a small town, ambulances take F O R E V E R to get there and THEN they take F O R E V E R to get back to the hospital. It's honesetly just faster to go to the hospital yourselves, and alert 911 while you're already on your way. IDK why the cops thought that was so suspicious, that's literally what everyone in small towns out here does when something happens.
When I was younger I fell off a horse. Instead of my parents calling 911 they loaded me up into the truck and drove me to the hospital instead of waiting for an ambulance. I can totally see his point of view. FYI - My parents also never called 911 at all.
Right? That’s just old school country style.
Yeah it makes sense to me, having grown up in a rual area. Ambulances take at least 30 minutes when we could just speed for 20 or less. And we dont have that kind of money
Yes! My extended family grew up on farms-- it's just what you do.
I am from a rural community and people do this all the time! Why wait for an ambulance to come, then transport the person back to the hospital, when you can have the person at the hospital before the ambulance even arrives?
For sure, especially if they live far away!
At this point Bailey should be Todd’s defense attorney. She makes a hella of a better case for an accident.
Bahahhaha😂
She does bring up some very key points I mean you can't really argue with her
@@jennifercameron7143 right like how did the lawyers miss that haha
It's not like she was strangled and he didn't have any defense wounds
I support bailey going to school to be a lawyer fully lol
April 6th, 2023 Todd has appealed for a new trial. Please let us get him help. We need to do something and save this man who is clearly innocent. His case was entirely mishandled. He deserves a second chance.
I don't know about "clearly innocent" but I definitely agree his case was mishandled. How was he found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt when there is obviously doubt. I'm not gonna start blaming the son like everyone else (cos thats just gross) but I do like Bailey's take on it, she slipped and did actually fall on it twice. I would like to see the area where she was found too.
How can we help?
@@Robin_Coffinsa lot of people believe he is covering for his son. His sons story kept changing and what have we learned from that?
I believe he is innocent
Glad to see so many people also think the son is SUSPISH! Kids are often extremely angry when they find out a parent is cheating. He changed his story, left the barn, was gone for an unknown amount of time, more than likely had access to the iPad, and he's the one who found her!! Also, for the mayan part, what if he was learning about them in school and that's why he searched it?
That was my first thought! Kids learn about different cultures in schools, so he could have made that search.
Yes! And maybe the dad was so off cause he had his own suspicions and didn’t want his son to get in trouble
And 13 is about the age of 8th and 9th grade, when you WOULD typically learn about the Mayans in school.
Personally, I think that Todd was trying to cover for his son. Tristan’s story was the only one that changed AND he was the one who “found” his mom. Perhaps he saw an opportunity to overpower his mom in her weak state because he knew she was having affairs and thought his dad was being too lenient. And *IF* Tristan did it, he would have likely had blood on him, and that’s why Todd laid her body across him and Tristan in the car. So that the blood could be dismissed by doing this.
Also, I have a difficult time believing a grown adult would search about ancient cultures doing away with adulterers. I don’t know, just seems kind of childish to me. On top of jewelry searches and Pinterest, other people besides Todd used the iPad. 🤷🏻♀️
Edit: I’m watching some of the court trial right now because at this point I’m invested, lol. And the son DID know about the affair! He said that his dad brought it up to him a few times.... motive? I think yes.
My thought exactly!
Same!! I think the son did it!
I wasn't thinking this. Now I am....!
@@MeganVlogz literally same
i thought it was tristan too!
So you were just sitting there waiting for Bailey to drop her video too? I’m so glad she posted this Monday😭
Me too. I'm so invested in her.
I wait impatiently every week for a video. Due to the time difference, I stay up to be able to watch them....
How well you know me!
😂 I was too.
I actually forgot so it was a surprise for me. Happens after every break toi. I forget the 4th Monday and then by the 3rd Monday I sit and wait only to find out it's Monday 3.
As someone who worked on a farm and has used rakes most of my time on the farm I can confirm that it’s very unlikely that you could fall on a rake and end up with injuries like hers.
I do not understand why Tristan was not questioned more thoroughly.
1) He was the first person to find his mom. What if he found her in a compromised position and took advantage of the opportunity? She would not have suspected him to hurt her, so she wouldn’t have struggled with him too much.
2) He left his dad and went to get water changing the time he was gone throughout the course of the investigation. Suspish
3) Tristan most likely would have been able to turn off of the cameras just as easily as his dad.
4) He also would have been able to use his dads iPad to make google searches.
5) He played sports with the Jerry’s kids, is it possible the kids found out about the affair and Tristan decided to take matters into his own hands?
6) Also, do you think Tristan was planning on eventually taking over the farm? Perhaps the idea of divorce and having the farm broken up would have spoiled his future plans? I lived in rural PA most of life and though farming is hard work, it’s also a fairly lucrative business that perhaps Tristan was willing to give up?
I’ve got so many questions here.
I didn't even think about Tristan and Jerry's kids. That could be an angle.
It's entirely possible either Tristan or Todd found the search history for the wedding dresses and jewelry.
I would be more interested in WHEN these searches took place.
I was thinking the same thing. I kind of suspect the son, too. Everybody was just focused on the husband and forgot about the son.
I am not saying that the son is guilty, it is just suspicious.
Jerry's children could also be under suspicion depending on their ages etc. They could easily have blamed the victim.
YES! This is exactly what I was thinking!
ya , he could have been p*ssed at his Mom but still that she was dizzy and stuff still leads me to believe she fell BUT hey, again, seriously faulty defense, WHY didnt the defense try to pin it on Tristan as a way to get his DAD off or create reasonable doubt?
Why did no one look into the son? He had timing and opportunity and could have resented his mother for breaking up the family by her affairs just as much as the father would have.
Yeah and a 13 year old boy could make that distance in no time. Plus those searches seem more like something a dumb kid would search
MTE!!!
I thought this too. Especially if she was already planning to get a divorce and end up possibly getting half the farm if not more.
This is what I was thinking!!
That what I was saying too!
Bailey should actually be a prosecutor at this point ,the way she analyzed the last part is so so professional 👍
My daughter and i chat about them most days!! 🤣🤣
I agree, she should be a detective or private investigator....maybe an FBI profiler :). We need people like her doing this kind of stuff.
I agree 💯
💯💯
I agree, why didn't they look at the son. Bailey you should be a investigator...
As a 911 operator for almost 10 years, it’s not uncommon for people in rural areas to take it upon themselves to drive people to the hospital, sometimes it can take up to a half an hour for an ambulance just to get to the scene of the accident. I’ve taken a lot of calls from people who call 911 while they’re en route to the hospital with the person because they feel like they can get them to the hospital sooner than waiting for the ambulance to get to them and then transport back to the hospital which in a lot of cases is true.
911 dispatcher here too, and yes! We have many calls like this. I work in a rural county and in certain parts of the county it can take up to 45 minutes for ems to arrive. Def not uncommon for this to happen.
Very true! I grew up in a very small town like this. There were less than 500 people in my town, and we were almost an hour from the next town over where the closest hospital was located. 911 wasn't even used much because of that. If someone had an emergency, you hopped in a car and had someone take you.
ER nurse here. This absolutely happens. I used to worked in a town where the next nearest hospital was 20 miles away. At least once a week someone would do something like this. Also, people do this all the time with their children. It’s rare (I don’t work in a children’s hospital but the city I live in now has one) for a child to come to my hospital by EMS. I’ve taken care of very sick/injured kids whose parents just tossed them in the car and drove them. This is not uncommon.
We are not even that far out of town and when I was having a miscarriage my husband drove me to the hospital. Its double time if you wait for an ambulance. There's only so much EMT's can do, they are there to try and get you stable enough to get to a hospital where they have more resources. If you are needing surgery to stop internal bleeding, that's not happening in an ambulance.
Absolutely in a farm area you drive yourself to the hospital for sure on marked roads tractors that you can't pass on the road....
The fact that this guy was found guilty and Casey Anthony roams free, blows my freakin mind. She had suspicions google searches and a dead body smell in her trunk. Smdh
Preach 🙌🏻
Casey Anthony had a better lawyer. 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️😤
Eh, I think Casey is an example of our justice system actually working, I know that’s controversial but... they couldn’t prove guilt without a doubt and focused on wild theories instead of facts. I think she 100% did it but Nancy Grace did a better job proving it than the prosecutors did.
for reallllll
8 agree totally. How is Casey Anthony not in prison but this guy is? Where's the proof?
24:50 this "pig tanning" section... so hilarious. Bailey is always quirky and full of understated humor, but this bit really had me laughing
Does it drive anyone else crazy is these cases, that when someone is quiet it means they have no emotion and when the are loud they are over doing it? Either way their emotion and actions are wrong and prove they are guilty. Drives me nuts!
It goes to show if they wanna pin it on you, no matter how you react, they re always gonna make it fit their narrative. I was personally shocked to hear him driving her to the hopsital would pmay against him.
That's why the Fifth Amendment can be useful, because it is instructed that no adverse inference can be drawn from choosing not to take the stand.
what gets me- his wife is DEAD and people are like "oh he's so cold"
his wife cheated on him twice, she's dead, and he was being accused
Or the fact that he put her in the truck before calling 911. If he is far enough away from medical treatment, he might be wanting to her to the hospital quicker than if an ambulance was sent out 🤷♀️ there are so many ways a person in distress could react
It also doesn’t help that lawyers will usually tell their clients to not show emotion
Bailey you should become a defense attorney. You bring up questions that paid attorneys don't ask or think of.
Why would she do that? She already has a profession..she is a professional make-up artist..
I was an attorney for many years, and you are SO right. The evidence is clearly insufficient to find this guy guilty. Feeling bad for the children :(
I’m a lawyer and I agree.
Do you think it could possibly be the son?
So much so. Even the search history wasn't confirmed to be his.
@@Toby-is-here When his story changed to get the water, yes. But even that is doubtful. It honestly just seems like a freak accident.
@@TiTi-pm4my They didn’t go further interviewing him and he changed his story.
When you're such a great story teller that I still listen upon realizing I've listened to this over a year ago and I still listen to it again. RIP Amy poor lady.
I grew up REALLY rural and we were always taught get in the car and then call 911. We lived down a mile long dirt road that I don’t even think an ambulance could make it down
When the ambulance has to come from another county most of the time they can't find you. Country life like that is different. You kind of have to live it to understand it.
yep! I don’t live super rural but small lanes mean ambulances can’t even fit through ... seriously , someone fell and hit there head (they were fine luckily) and the paramedics had to leave the ambulance to walk down.
Bingo..that is exactly what i was thinking. In my are our 911 address is almost a half a mile from our house so if someone needed direction it would be very difficult. I think it very plausible that he just started driving maybe to a main road or somewhere he knew they could find. It was probably an unconscious decision.
Right! I also thought why not meeting them halfway? They can be faster at the hospital then
Yes, my parents first thought would be get the mf in the car and then call 911 while you’re driving. Or just pull up to the hospital
Ok, but did anyone question the relationship between Tristen and his mother? Because he was 14 and grew up on a farm, he would certainly be strong enough, could have the same motive as his father, knowledge of the cameras, and access to the iPad. He also left his father to “go get water” he doesn't know how long he was gone, and he was the one to discover his mother. Did anyone say how long he was out there getting the pet carrier? 🤷♀️
🤯🤯🤯 maybe the dad knew!! He went to prison for his son. 🤔
thank you, this is what i was thinking all the way through
As much as I wouldn't want to believe it was Tristan, it would have been worth looking into. He knows his way around a farm and it's equipment, had heard about the previous affair plus maybe the new one (kids the same age, maybe wifey didn't realize parents were sneaking off but kids did?), and a lot of farm kids are dedicated to that lifestyle
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING! No one questioned him at all! Like, he could have known about his mum cheating, that is extremely upsetting to a child! I think they definitely should have looked into the son.
This.... I was wondering the same thing!!!
I just love that she tries to put herself in everyone's shoes before coming to conclusions.
she really does, also she talks about the victims before hand and everything
I think the son had something to do with it. He was upset at his mom for cheeting on his dad
@@bunnygaffney6925 I was thinking the same thing.
I don’t think he got a fair trial. Unanswered questions and bad legal counsel. What was up with son? Was he working against his dad? Was the son involved? I’ve known a lot of farmers and many of them respond slowly and are very stoic.
The quality of being open minded. All perspectives should be considered
THE ENTIRE TIME I was like “what if she was feeling guilty and searched those thing?” And when you said that I said “what not to do” with you! I feel like this was a terrible thing that happened but there was not sufficient evidence to prove the husband did it, and by our laws we are innocent until PROVEN guilty. I feel like the doubt should’ve been placed in jurors minds for sure and our justice system failed this poor woman, her children, and her husband.
I think the fact that his story never changed leans towards innocence. Guilty people stumble over their stories and change as things go on.
Like the son.
I agree with you. Not to mention, some of the things he said were so elaborate (like why the cameras were offline), yet he didn't say much in his own defense (like how he could make it to the red barn and back without his son noticing). Guilty people will grasp at straws and say any and every thing to make themselves seem innocent.
Some guilty people, usually only those that actually feel guilty. It's easier to lie when you aren't feeling anxious about the situation, though. Many killers have never changed their story and are only in prison due to evidence found.
FACTS: Even the best liars have trouble keeping their story straight.
I kept waiting to find out it was the son who did it. Didn't he have access to both the Google search and the cameras?
I hate people judging another’s guilt on their emotional reaction to something. Not everyone wears their emotions on their sleeves.
YES! My way of processing grief is just pretending the person does not exist. I can't engage with my grief emotionally because I won't be able to keep going
@@uncomfortablyniche Preach!
And he had been dealing with it for so long. He sat in jail for seven months before he even got the trial. Weird that people expect him to act like it just happened when he'd had half a year+ to think about it daily.
@@uncomfortablyniche grief hits me late, then people think I'm trying to act tough. I'm not, I just process differently, beep boop beep boop
Exactly. I was the only one of my family not crying at my grandfather's funeral. I just don't cry in public. I literally can't do it
“You can watch the interrogation if you want too but I’m a great actress” 💀🤣 only channel that makes me excited for Monday’s
I'm gonna be that person.... *To*
I absolutely love how purple your makeup is here ✌
Idk...I grew up on a ranch. I’ve seen some freak accidents. I do believe Todd deserves a retrial because this trial didn’t seem fair. Either way, Rest In Peace Amy.
If anything, retry him and answer some of these burning questions we have.
I wish Netflix or Hulu would give her a series cause I would most definitely tune in
Why? She has much more creative freedom here, and everyone has access?
@@jennifergriffith4526 why? Because she deserves it. She deserves more money, more financial and creative freedom, more people/popularity, and all of the benefits of her own show. She’s amazing. She deserves everything. I love Bailey!! She’s amazing & deserves a larger audience. I know you’d personally miss “free access,” but it’s about Bailey and what she deserves 🖤🖤🖤
@@MetalAngel61 😄 That you think it's about my free access. You missed my entire point, and I can't help that. Carry on...
I totally agree. I think the same thing for Kendall Rae. I love watching the both of them.
@@melissavanchena1105 Me too
He needed a better defense team. They literally did nothing for him.
Prolly was paid off
Well they got him arrested...
Okay so the son being the only one whose story changes is suspish, but also... did they question Jerry's wife at all? That was bugging me so bad!
Funny how Baily and the comment section are making a better case for him than the people who were actually supposed to defend him in court.
I know! Right!
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What If the son did it but the dad knew the son did it. That's why he changed his story mid trial. Maybe the dad was covering for his son.
@@LisaMarie-fk5wb Maybe but i feel like the son had no motive to do so, and the cop mentioned that the son seemed traumatized holding his dead mom with her blood on him
@@Idk-lf7fe he could have been upset that his mom was having an affair on his dad, and he was "technically " the only person out of sight to grab a drink of water, he could have snuck into the barn
The whispering really sounds like “don’t die on me now” “one two three four” like he’s counting for CPR.
Yeah, I'm hearing counting too, which - I think - is almost automatic if you've been trained in CPR.
I heard 1234 also some people just hear what they want to hear
It's like the whole yanny/laurel thing! If you are thinking one thing, you will hear it even though it is the SAME AUDIO! They were already thinking he was guilty so they heard something incriminating.
i heard the same thing!!!
Thats what I heard
I’m a bit curious as to why they didn’t ask the son what he was saying. He was a witness and I highly doubt he would be bashing his sons mother in front of the son while she’s dying. This case is definitely a frustrating one
Right
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
I’m curious why she (the prosecutor) volunteered any words at all!!
the son might not have been right next to the dad and mom to hear everything, or if he was, maybe he was too in shock to really be paying attention to whatever the dad was saying.
The son did it.
Hi Bailey. I'm from Cape Town, South Africa and I love you and you're episodes. Just love everything! Thank you.
The Aztec search really makes me suspect the teenage son even more because he would likely be learning about them in school. If I were an investigator, I'd find out his curiculum. He probably knew about his Mom's affairs, and I can't imagine he'd be very happy with her. The fact that he changed his story and was the only one alone with her... Very suspicious.
also its a small town and I doubt that kids didn't tease him about his mother having an affair, I'm glad that we can all notice this :)
I was thinking that too !! And like he’s the one that went to grab a glass of water which probably brought him closer to his mother more than Todd having to run through the field ... it’s just a bit too weird for me
And the son would gain access to the farm and the income while his dad is in the slammer. And the son was the one that kept changing his story. Very interesting!
That was my thought. I honestly think it could have been the son
I was thinking 🤔 about the son the whole time too
As a person who lives on a farm, I would like to know WHERE Tristan went to get water. Did he just go to the nearest sink? Drink it out of the hose? Go to the office? Walk all the way back to the house? If someone had only asked him that we would have a lot more information about how long he was gone. Personally, I think it was either an accident or it was Tristan.
I thought this as well. He said it was only a minute or two and then changed his mind to say he wasn’t sure, but if they asked him where the water was they could much more easily come up with a timeline. I think the kid did it honestly.
I think it was accidental death possibly. Like legit they were hog farmers a hog will eat a whole human body
@@ashleyzurn1407 they will also clean up a crime scene.
@@julieholmes9704 😅
EXACTLY LIKE EVEN IF TODD SND HIM WERENT TOGETHER THE WHOKE TIME THATS TWO SUSPECTS NOT J ONE TWO
"He looked like a sad fish... he was just bummed" who needs a court case sketch artist when we have Bailey haha
Yes, i heard "so cold" at first anyway. And it fits with that he was saying over the phone about her already being cold
It sounded a lot like CPR counts being done by someone who’s terrified & out of breath.
I hate how most of the wife’s friends thought that the husband was mean and horrible like, the wife could’ve been lying to her friends. People do that.
Facts and are you a army 💜
Sooo true! Just like when ppl cheat, they will tell the person they are cheating with that their partner is a horrible person etc but lying the whole time
@@dejavu7492 facts and if you're unhappy in the relationship you should talk about it or leave
Also what friends support someone cheating on their husband?! Because Bailey mentioned that Amy was having an affair with Jerry and she told her friend about it so like what type of person is that friend? I'm so mad at how they are blaming her husband but it's so unfair to him to find out that she was cheating even after he asked Jerry's wife.
@@MarauderetteForever that’s what I was thinking. Like if I was your friend and you were cheating in your husband. I would not support you and try to talk you out of doing it or tell the husband. So wrong. Very strange case
Aztecs? Sounds like maybe the kid was learning about Aztecs in school and connected it with his mom’s actions.. because that’s a really odd thing for an adult to want to know.. 🤔
yes those sounded like kids searches like what adult would read a “10 things about cheating women” on the family iPad like why would he go to google about cheating like he didn’t already go through it?
So he was 13 and probably in like 8th grade right. Well, in lots of curriculums Aztecs are taught in 7th or 8th grade so maybe that's a connection?
Exactly what I thought!!! I remember learning about Aztecs in my school curriculum in my last year in middle school. I would certainly lean towards that being the case, it would seem random for Todd to be googling that.
i go to highschool with this kid, we didn’t learn about aztecs until 9th grade. unless he learned from his other school.
Growing up on a beef ranch, I know first hand, you are taught from a very young age that bad things can happen if you're not careful around farm equipment. If something does happen, you start driving to the hospital, then call for help because help simply can't get to you fast enough and it could be the difference between life and death. You also take on farm responsibilities from a young age. You learn about life's beginnings and ends very early. It does not surprise me at all that he started driving, then called 911. The ambulance can get to them faster if he can meet them half way. It also doesn't surprise me that the mother was laid on the son's lap. The father was the only one who could drive, so that left the oldest child to jump in and help stabilize. This is incredibly sad and I feel so badly for this family. Truly misrepresented and not given a fair trial.
Couldn't agree more. And if he wanted her to die he would have just stayed on the farm! She was pretty much gone at that stage anyway, and he knew it.
Totally agree
I too, living in Alaska, know to drive and the ambulance will meet you. I mean it’s a small town. Not like there’s a million routes to the hospital. However keeping the heart pumping oxygen to her brain is also important so CPR needed to get started. Hence him stopping to preform CPR once it was brought to his attention.
My husband and I were screaming all of these things at the TV!! I completely agree and think a lot of his actions are understandable when you are familiar with extremely rural living and the silent reserved farmer type. He reacted in a way that would have given his wife the best chance, not like a man that wanted her dead. So sad...
My boyfriend farms and his address always sends anyone to the wrong location.. so living out in the middle of nowhere it seems like common sense to drive anyone closer to town.. especially if there is someone to stabilize the injured person or do CPR on the way. Or if the locations aren’t 100% accurate like they are when you live in town, that could cost a life too.
Love this episode for so many different reasons but all of them are YOU BAILEY 🎉 You are absolutely fab and so funny to listen to. So joyful, entertaining and relatable. I like everyone else wish we were your bestest friends!!!❤
The fact they didnt look into the Son who found her... who was alone with her... Who changed his story... is astonishing
Yeah how old was the son anyway?
@@tee2936 13
Exactly! And it's the fact that Todd sent Tristan to the barn in the first place that makes me think he's innocent. Why on Earth would he traumatize his son by making him find his mother's corpse?
Exactly!
I thought the same thing, also while he was away to drink water, like who knows?
So glad I’m not the only one who thinks the son did it. He had motive, the time and everything. The son is definitely suspish
Agreed. He might’ve known his mom was cheating and was mad about it. Those google searches sound super childish imo 🧐
Thank you! I kept waiting for Bailey to say it was the son
Interesting!
I really think it was the son, it’s the most logical thing. Plus depending on how big the son is, a child could probably fit in a narrow space just fine
Yes!! I had this feeling when he just happened to go for water right when his mum was "killed" and he would also know where the cameras were to disable them. Suspish
The son! We don’t no exactly where he is during this, he could have searched everything. He probably saw his mother’s searches and heard some of her phone calls. So many things point to the son!
Oh my days thats what I was thinking
I'm wondering how close the house was to where she was killed. Could the son have made it there? I'm guessing likely...
Same!!!
I think that's also why she was on his lap in the car. They were trying to make the blood on his clothes make sense.
Magsamillion Smagurfly exactly what I was telling my boyfriend when I made him watch it!
Forget the story, look at the makeup‼️THIS is the best look by far. Purple is my favorite color and girl you are ROCKIN' IT‼️You are absolutely gorgeous 💜
Todd’s story never changed, but his son’s did. Makes you wonder. Makes you think.
Yes! I was wondering if it was the son and the dad is covering up for his son. Have him go to jail instead of his son
I was wondering if maybe they kept asking and asking that confused and traumatized kid, suggesting that one maybe had to get some water… until he wasn't sure wether he maybe really did do that. Just heard a casefile about 6 people confessing to a crime they didn't do bc of interrogation practices.
rewatching this again, and i’m wondering two things: why didn’t they assume it was the son? maybe he was the one who was searching up the creepy google searches [mom more than likely was looking up wedding dresses for her and Jerry?] (i thought this the first time, but my brain got going) and two, why didn’t they test the corn rake for prints other than todd’s?
I immediately was like what about the other kids like they had 3 kids ????
I just finished watching this and i feel the son had the opportunity to do this while back at the "house" getting water. Maybe he was angry about what his mum had done (twice now)
I also wonder what happened to the other two kids when they got in the truck to go to the hospital?
So many questions!
Guilty or not guilty his sentence was extreme for a case with no physical evidence.
RIGHT! I immediately thought it was the son! I mean he found her, he went to „get a glass of water“ and he was probably mad at his mom for cheating. Maybe his dad is trying to protect him
I was wondering about the other 2 children that where in the house. If the son got water,wouldn't the other 2 kids be able to verify that?
Apparently, it was later said that it was in fact his son's searches because "they had studied something about the Aztecs". HTF was that not questioned or brought up??? It's obvious he knew about the affairs by the searches alone!
I think his reaction and putting her in the car would be anyone’s reaction..
I agree! I was thinking I’d probably do exactly the same thing if it were me.
Exactly especially since they live in a rural area so it would probably take longer for an ambulance there
Fr, my first reaction I would hope is to take the person to the hospital as quickly as possible instead of calling and wasting time. Just my opinion though 🤷🏻♀️idk
i agree with you. it's either call 911 and have responders drive out to the farm and then back to the hospital, which would take twice the amount of time, or drive there to the hospital himself. it's a hard decision but in the moment, i can see how he would decide to drive her there himself.
Yeah same. That's what I woulda done
I love how Bailey always describes small towns, bc I grew up in one and it’s honestly so true 😭 everyone loves to gossip, especially the Mississippi ladies I grew up with-
I live on a farm in rural Canada, and have needed to go to the hospital, we can drive faster to the hospital than the ambluence can get to us. Its part of rural living. Also, living on the farm there are so many freak deaths. Its really tragic. I can't believe the American justice system would lock him away for his entire life with such little physical evidence.
My fiancé's family lives in a rural part of California, where the closest ER is 2 hours away. I can totally see people starting the drive and calling 911 on the way there. It really doesn't seem that strange to me
I live around 1 hour away from an ok hospital, 1.5hrs-2.5hrs to way better hospitals. I would also drive and call 911 on the way. When I was having frequent and very long gallbladder attacks, we called the ambulance 1 time and it took them a total of 3 hours to get me to the ‘just ok’ hospital.
I was thinking the same thing, like that makes complete sense to me to start driving towards hospital when you live in a rural area. Like you can get to the hospital faster than waiting for an ambulance.
I live in rural Alabama and if there is a emergency most people drive the person to the hospital because usually you can get there faster than a ambulance would.
Also I grew up on a small farm and freak accident can easily happen.
I agree 100%, Christa....and those poor children are now basically orphans...
The searches don't sound like they were made by an adult. My theory is that the son found out about the affair and killed his mother while he was "getting water"
I was looking in the comments for this!!
this i just commented the same thing before i looked at the comments
Reminiscent of the OJ Simpson case. Many believe the son possibly did it.
Yesss !! That’s what I was thinking
exactly what I thought!!!!
Weird how the son wasn’t questioned as a suspect considering there were only two people on the farm and his story changed
Also, there were 2 younger kids inside correct? I wonder what thier ages were and why he didn't just have his son stay home with them.
That's what I thought. He left and had to go past the barn. Why wasn't he questioned?
Agreed!
Yes I was just about to say that I was thinking that the whole time. It’s very weird to me how he switched up his alibi, he didn’t hear nothing, he probably has access to the cameras, and how long did it take for you to get water. He’s very suspicious his motive could’ve been how he found out his mother was in an affair and about her plans to divorce and just lashed out
Did the kid know of the affair? Were they a religious family and the kid is faithful to his faith? And like another person said, why wasn't the kid questioned.
This story keep me up at night and I think about it so often. I am from Iowa about 2hrs away from Earlville Iowa and I always thought on why nobody has mentioned or questioned the son?!?! Also am from a small town and it isn’t the greatest, everyone knows everything almost about you.
the son was super traumatized, covered in blood, and unaccounted for.
he could have got mad at his mom and just boom, crime of passion.
and the dad willingly took the fall, which would also explain his demeanor in court since he knew that if someone was going down for it it was gonna be him because he was making sure it wasn’t the son.
Yeah if u watch the court videos he was so calm...but not weirdly calm (to me) at least, like he knows what's about to happen...to him.
That is exactly what I was thinking as soon as she said the son changed his story three times. Todd also chose to lay his wife across his son, so if there was any blood spatter on him previously it would have been covered up. I came to the comments to see if more people felt this way, but apparently not. I hope it was just an accident, we may never get the truth though.
@@25Rainbowgrapes this is so important!!!!
I was thinking the same thing even left a comment about it 🙌
@@25Rainbowgrapes I just commented something to the same effect. Looking to see who else thought that now lol
As a retired rural police officer, it’s very very very common to intercept patients on the way to the hospital or transported by helicopter it’s rare that an ambulance actually makes it too the location of the accident but the kid did it for sure.
agreed, and you have a pretty name if thats ur name
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I thought that to, the son did it!!
Agreed. It didn’t seem odd at all that he would immediately start towards the hospital then call 911. Waiting around to call doesn’t help, while getting on the move does.
Todd grabbing his wife and trying to drive her to the nearest hospital makes sense to me. My parents live in the country and when people live in the country usually your a distance away from help so I can see the logic of it needed to act fast because you have no idea when help would arrive if you stay and just wait
Agreed
Same thoughts there. 💯 You don't just sit there and wait for help when you can drive over yourself! Sometimes it is even faster than waiting for ambulance to arrive. Like, seriously.
When my stepdad had a heart attack, it was way faster to drive him to the hospital than to wait for ambulance.
When I nearly died from my pulmonary embolism, it was way faster to have a neighbor run me to the hospital than wait for an ambulance (would have been SO but he left 30 mins earlier to go out of town).
So that makes perfect sense to me - why would you wait during a life threatening emergency?!
agreed 100%
I agree! I live way out in the sticks. I was having a severe allergic reaction one night and my daughter started driving me to the er. She called 911 on the way and had them meet us in the nearest small town. I don't know if I would have made it if we waited on an ambulance but I also don't know if I would have made it if she drove me the entire way. The paramedics were able to start an iv and get meds started. Thankfully, my daughter's a smart cookie.
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Imagine being cheated on by your spouse then charged with their death then get put away for life and never see your kid again. If he's innocent, that's got to be so incredibly sad..
And the sad thing is there are so many innocent people incarcerated......then it takes so long to get out again. Basically either way is life is ruined, because even if he gets another trial and is found NOT GUILTY....people in the town will always wonder and will have this question hanging over his head. People who have spent 20 years in jail and then been freed say that the sense of guilt always stays there from others...it puts a black cloud over your name even being innocent...... unfair ....and many people have confessed to crimes they never committed because cops wear them down over such a long period of time, they just end up saying they did it when they didn’t ....at least this guy never changed his story.
They say when you are innocent the story NEVER changes but when guilty, it keeps changing even just a bit, but add them all together and they are usually guilty.
Yeah, it is sad. But let's face it...he kinda has guilty written allover him.
This case makes me sad. I genuinely feel the comment section and or Bailey alone defended this man better.
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Literally
Right
I don’t hear him saying anything under his breath during that call. That’s a stretchhhhhh. I 100% believe he was wrongly accused
Does he have any accent at all? What about “just hang oaahn” or “just hang on” ?
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hi friends, I dont know what I think about this one. He may be guilty but like...... was that enough proof for his sentence?? I just dont know....
Editing to add: Jerry’s wife had a solid alibi, she was across town volunteering and many saw her at the time of Amy’s death.
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Am right at the 911 call playback clip. & I was just thinking that almost always when you are performing CPR chest compressions you will (and are advised) to count them aloud for yourself and for the dispatcher your on 911 with as you do them to keep track of your compressions because typically once you get to 30 chest compression you then administer 2 rescue breaths and then repeat that cycle. It's definitely a possibility that him saying "Cheating h**e " May actually be him counting "24" aloud.
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It was deffo the kid, he had the opportunity when he “went to get water”. He had motive that his mom was cheating on his dad. He could have been the one googling that stuff to justify his actions. AND he’s the only one who changed his story. Seems suspish to me
Yeah and also what if it was their son because he was the first person seeing her after she "got the carrier"
& isn’t he the one who said she was woozy that day?!
I love how you tell these stories
Bailey really does make an incredible story teller
Or its the son trying to get rid of his parents so he can marry his girlfriend or something.
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Does anyone else find it SUPER suspish that Tristan says he “checked for a pulse and THEN yelled for his dad”?
If I walked up to my mom’s body laying on the ground with a friggin rake sticking out of her back, I’d start screaming my lungs out before even reaching her body, let alone before checking for her pulse.
Not sure what this indicates, but it sounds fishy as heck to me.
First thing I noticed that set off a red flag
Yeah at 13 idk that I'd have the stomach or strength to even touch my mom in that situation 😳😳😳
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and it could’ve been him looking that stuff up maybe he found out abt his mom and got really mad
I was going to sa this. I know I am late on this Due to just finding her account. How ever I thought it was Tristan pretty much all the video. Just the way he acted when he found his mom and also all the other evidence. Nothing made since to me.
But also the accident theory at the end actually seems feasible or am I the only person that injures myself reacting to injuring myself 😂
I think the cameras were disconnected because Amy didn't want to be caught on camera having an affair. If this guy is innocent and was actually cheated on three times and arrested, I feel so bad for him.
I thought she only cheated on him twice.
She wouldnt disconnect the cameras. Most women wont even think to do that let alone i doubt she would bring someone else around thier kids and thier farm knowing the dads there or could pop up. She would have went to him
@@brittnicole2438 lol I am not a cheater but I think you're right, as a woman, most of us would plan better than that
@@brittnicole2438 i doubt she would've brought anyone home, but who's to say she didn't try to sneak away and meet them somewhere that's close by or smth? idk, this whole case is obviously a set-up and the potholes make my head spiral.
@@blackiggy I wish if he did it he would admit it or the truth came out. They should have investigated more but i feel they didnt do what they should have.
I think it’s weird that the dad would have asked the son to grab the pet carrier out of the shed if he had killed her. Why would he want his son to see that?
Exactly
So he wouldn't be the one to find her with no other witnesses around?
because it makes him seem less guilty for exactly that reason. not saying he was or wasn't guilty, just a thought lol
Hey guys don’t forget that the son actually totally changed his story during the trial... I’m thinking as many others in the comments section that Todd might be covering his son’s mistake... Maybe the son just lost control and called his dad right after attacking the mother and the dad just thought that he wouldn’t want his son to ruin his life so he took all the blame... Think of it that way, the search history was a little off to me and his son might have just gone carried away when rumors started spreading that her mom was cheating, and even probably insulted, you know how it is with kids. Maybe he thought that his dad doing nothing wasn’t right and confronted his mother in the barn. If she didn’t have any remorse or told him she wanted to leave his father, taking some of their money, their family life and everything, he might have lost it... Pushed her or something and accidentally killed her... I don’t know it’s just a theory but I’m really thinking that the dad wasn’t going to go that far because he already had been cheating on and handled it really well at the time... He wanted this to work for his family and probably was ready to still try to figure it out after everything... The story of the son seems so off when the dad never changed his version...
@@leohdcp I agree!! Why wasn’t the son questioned more?
What if it was the son? Like everyone in town had been gossiping about her having an affair so the son “went to get some water” but really he killed her.
I thought the same thing!
I thought the same thing
I thought this too!!!!!!
Exactly!!!
Thought this same thing!!
I completely agree. Too many unanswered questions.
Hopefully the poor dad gets justice. Prayers for him and his kids.
Having grown up in the middle of no-where, you act first, communicate second in an emergency. You are literally the best person in a 20 minute drive to handle a crisis, purely because you're the only one there.
When my mom died in our house, we did the pulse check and fumbled around for a few minutes in shock before I thought to call 911. Out of 5 adults, only one mentioned calling 911. It's one of those things you never think you'll ever have to do.
I thought of that too. Especially depending on where you are, service can be spotty too even when you try to call.
Exactly! You can't wait for an ambulance in the middle of nowhere!
That’s real
I’m sorry you lost your mom so suddenly. That must’ve been horrible for all of you.
The whole time I was really bothered by people judging him for taking her to the hospital. He jumped into action, he acted in the moment. "He shouldnt have laid her on their son" his other options are putting one of them in the bed, leaving their traumatized son alone or putting her in first and making the son sit on her. I think he chose the best option with what he had. No one knows what they would do in that situation.
Anyone who judges that has never lived in a rural area.
Exactly. Coming from a small town myself where there’s loads of farms, I saw nothing weird or wrong with him getting in and driving her. He could meet the ambulance half way to the hospital.
Agreed
Agreed! Where I grew up the nearest actual hospital was an hour away. Even to call an ambulance, it could take 30-60 mins just for them to show up! It makes more sense to call while heading to the hospital than to wait the extra time for an ambulance!
Exactly. My grandparents live in a verrrrry rural area and it's faster for them to drive themselves to the ER than to call 911. It would take 45 mins just for someone to get to them.
Todd looked like he was going to cry when listening to that 911 call. He seems innocent to me, because he never changed his story and the physical evidence doesn't add up. He got railroaded. The Google searches could have been Amy's.
I agree. And I like your pfp
I don't know if he was guilty, but I don't think I could have convicted him
what if they had a joined google account would that explain? sorry if this is a silly question
Or Tristan’s
…Or the son’s
This case has reasonable doubt, circumstantial evidence and incompetent counsel written all over it. If I was on the jury, no way I would’ve voted guilty.
Exactly