Look guys, at the end of the day it’s all about preference. Some people prefer automatic, and some people prefer manual. I don’t get why in the car community, people are judged for what they prefer. It’s your money, just buy whatever you feel like is more suitable for your style and don’t let people who probably can’t afford it tell you what to buy lmao.
It's usually the brokies that being annoying about it. It's not his BRZ anyways lol He probably wanted some likes from guys driving a manual shitbox. He has been uploading for years and barely has any subscribers. understandable why.... big snob
1st world problems. Manual is overrated in the west, and it's actually the other way around in my country, South Africa, where automatic is now overrated. 🤦♂️
As a 22 BRZ Automatic Owner. You can still drift it because it has paddles and a stick shift in 6 speed. It's also a LOT OF FUN. You also get better fuel economy. This car is great for young people and older folks alike. It's a great car with outstanding performance and reliability. This car can easily go 300,000 miles before needing to fix it. Just remember to do you oil changes and general upkeep. It actually gets better fuel economy highway than the 2019 crosstrek that I had. Gets ok fuel economy in stop and go traffic. I've already put 13k on mine. I've owned it for 2 months.
I have an auto gt86 for a daily driver it’s still fun and I love it. You can still do little skids and I enjoy the paddleshifts. It was also a lot cheaper than the manual.
@@gamingwithcali823 manuals around my area have a higher market adjustment by the dealerships than the autos neptune blue manual base and they wanted to get me for 38000 dollars
I own a 23 GR86 with a manual. I came from a FJ Cruiser with an automatic, and while I do miss having an automatic just for the ease of use, a manual sure is fun. The 2024 GR86 / BRZ will have all of the safety features included on the manual cars which is “good” I assume. I personally don’t like having all of the safety features… But to each their own.
@@oye6124 being a car guy is loving cars wether they’re manual or not. You people act like it’s all about the transmission of the car. People have different preferences for cars and you need to respect that. Manual isn’t always the best yk
1 reason you said was valid Which was the 4 second difference in speed The other 2 were personal preferences Safety features are a plus not a necessity The only one that’s actually useful is your car braking for you People have gon years without blind spot monitoring To be honest they make people careless I’m 26 now & even my current car (2021 Lxs modified forte) doesn’t have nor need all of that Pay attention when you drive it’s not hard
Why not get the automatic no need to be shifting gears in heavy traffic. Two less tiresome. Third you actually get the extra safety system. Four you get extra cubby space between shifter and cup holder. Fifth you get shifter paddles on steering wheel. Sixth you don't have that annoying third pedal more space to rest your foot.
the manual is better for loads of reasons. You have better control over the car as you directly engage the transmission, this is especially desired in sports cars like the brz. The lack of a torque converter in some manual cars make them more fuel efficient than their automatic counterparts. manual is just flat out much more fun, which si also desired in sports cars like the brz. manual cars are also MUCH cheaper to own, manual transmissions are much simpler in design and are easier to fix. Manual cars are lighter than their automatic counterparts. Etc Etc Etc
Me too, I’m getting auto with gr86 soon with base model ‘cause I don’t know to drive a manual just like my mom did driving school in around 60’s and my uncle drove his 2017 VW golf with manual, too.
“Physically can’t drive it”. Fun fact: It’s easier to learn a manual as an automatic driver than it is to learn an automatic as a manual driver. Also, the automatic isn’t slower than the manual by any means. Some drivers just don’t know how to launch an automatic for some reason. Automatics are easier to learn, however they have a higher skill ceiling ironically enough.
I fuck with my gr86 more, idk it’s just really fun to drive and although it’s been through almost 9000 miles, it’s a lot of fun still. I don’t think I’ll get tired of driving at a comfortable speed any time soon, I think later on though I will need to transition my v4 for a v6- v8, for more power, but that’s abt it. And I’m thinking like years years ahead, not anytime soon; more like when I’m 32 or sum, where I can be financially reckless at times.
@@Mk5mango you just use the e brake to hold yourself there while you give it gas and let off the clutch. If you do it right you’ll roll back less than an auto.
I mean it's still fun. Some people are kinda snobs about cars and certain shit. If you like how it handles, rides, glides and drifts you should have the time of your life. A sports car is a sports car
I love manual cars but all your points are ridiculous 0.5 seconds faster? You’re not going to notice that Paddle shifters in the way? Never been an issue on any auto sportscar I’ve driven You get 3 pedals on the manual? No shit??
I think I may end up shilling for the auto once I save enough for a brz just to have one less thing to worry about, I think paddle shifters could be fun if I learn them. My current car has "manual" but it downshifts for you and all that, still fun if I need to get to speed faster though.
its easy to learn. lots of videos out there. when youre finally in a manual car, practice stop and go with just the clutch in 1st gear to get a feel for the bite point
I fr hate when people say autos are faster, like yes the fucking 500hp camaro ss 10speed auto is slightly faster than the auto camaro ss, like 5 speed auto in the brz ain't shit😭😭
@@ProductReviewCars the 0-60 time Toyota states for the automatic were not done using the manual mode with the paddle shifter, just in standard drive mode where the car short shifts. They did the test this way to sell more manuals. I’ve driven both the auto and manual and the auto is faster in most circumstances in manual mode 0-60. No rev hang and instant up shifts. Either way, no one buys this car to go fast in a straight line.
The whole point of these cars is fun with what power you do have (not a whole lot, but very responsive and linear). The auto in these basically removes the fun aspect and reduces response so now you have a hairdresser car that’s only really meant to look like a sports car.
A sports car without a manual just isnt a sports car. Even with the models that are faster in auto form like a GTI or Mustang. The auto ruins the entire experience of the vehicle. The owners always have to try to justify their bad purchase or lack of driving skill by saying "but the auto is faster."
Nonsense, the DSG GTI is miles better than its manual counterpart. Every high end supercars from Ferrari, Lambo, Bugatti etc are all automatic (actually dual clutches) nowadays. They’re not sports cars?
@@Mav86asian Nope they are not. "SPORT" means to compete. Racing on a road course, autocross, dragstrip etc is a sport. There is competition happening. By driving an automatic you are basically taking handicap points. You want to "compete" but not really. You aren't good enough to work 3 pedals, bang gears and nail heel toe downshifts while steering at the same time. Sure "autos are faster" when they do all the hard work that involves skill for you. Anybody can drive a car in a straight line or even around a race track and make it look easy with an auto. Thats because it is easy. All those expensive exotic cars are driven by rich people with zero actual driving skill. If you like performance numbers on paper, sure go buy an auto. If you like to actually compete with others on a track and not get laughed at you need to drive a manual. I have been a member of a private race club for 10 years. Nobody drives an auto. A real enthusiast just doesnt.
@@Jordanball-ib3iw there’s a video of it losing to a prius and yes it’s a wanna be sports car, because if it wasn’t it wouldn’t call itself apparently somehow a “sport” car. It’s a slow shitbox. But doesn’t surprise me u have a dumb opinion when u support terrorists with that pfp
Oh damn! The manual comes with 3 pedals?... You don't say?
lmao
🤣
fr every vid abt the difference between manual v auto cars talks abt 3 pedals. had no clue, must be new right
Look guys, at the end of the day it’s all about preference. Some people prefer automatic, and some people prefer manual. I don’t get why in the car community, people are judged for what they prefer. It’s your money, just buy whatever you feel like is more suitable for your style and don’t let people who probably can’t afford it tell you what to buy lmao.
You could. Or you could just get the manual.
@@ProductReviewCars auto all the way.
Also the HKS supercharger kit has less issues running on the automatic than on the manual just saying. Plus its still fun to drive.
It's usually the brokies that being annoying about it. It's not his BRZ anyways lol He probably wanted some likes from guys driving a manual shitbox. He has been uploading for years and barely has any subscribers. understandable why.... big snob
1st world problems. Manual is overrated in the west, and it's actually the other way around in my country, South Africa, where automatic is now overrated. 🤦♂️
I was 0.5 sec late from work😒, should have gotten the manual.
Fired
If you’re late you’re late
Why to get a manual, faster, it’s manual, and it’s also a manual
Exactlyyyy
Auto is faster
@@4bangr4days some newer ones yea but most arent lol
@@overa-ws2ql there ain’t no way you’re shifting faster than a auto
@@4bangr4days the auto in the 86 is dog shit, that's why the manual is faster
As a 22 BRZ Automatic Owner. You can still drift it because it has paddles and a stick shift in 6 speed. It's also a LOT OF FUN. You also get better fuel economy. This car is great for young people and older folks alike. It's a great car with outstanding performance and reliability. This car can easily go 300,000 miles before needing to fix it. Just remember to do you oil changes and general upkeep. It actually gets better fuel economy highway than the 2019 crosstrek that I had. Gets ok fuel economy in stop and go traffic. I've already put 13k on mine. I've owned it for 2 months.
13k miles for just 2 months? Man where you going everyday?
@@yhaerysthethird6088 I now have 18k miles.
25k on my 22 auto 😂
@@rookiboi26 I just reached 21587 today.
no one has put 300k on these yet, so you can't make any claims about its long-term reliability yet
I have an auto gt86 for a daily driver it’s still fun and I love it. You can still do little skids and I enjoy the paddleshifts. It was also a lot cheaper than the manual.
For a new car the manuals are cheaper, on the used market the manuals are more expensive because no one wants the auto.
I'll take the automatic no problem here.
@@gamingwithcali823 manuals around my area have a higher market adjustment by the dealerships than the autos neptune blue manual base and they wanted to get me for 38000 dollars
I own a 23 GR86 with a manual. I came from a FJ Cruiser with an automatic, and while I do miss having an automatic just for the ease of use, a manual sure is fun. The 2024 GR86 / BRZ will have all of the safety features included on the manual cars which is “good” I assume. I personally don’t like having all of the safety features… But to each their own.
However, because it's a manual, I'm going with the automatic lol
fake car guy
@@oye6124 😂😂😂😂
@@oye6124 being a car guy is loving cars wether they’re manual or not. You people act like it’s all about the transmission of the car. People have different preferences for cars and you need to respect that. Manual isn’t always the best yk
@@zya.777 u know what a joke is?
@@zya.777 how would you know? You’re not even a guy
It is hard to miss safety features you never had on manual 😆
Lmao
Nah, going with auto.
Loser
How does a Camry sound?
1 reason you said was valid
Which was the 4 second difference in speed
The other 2 were personal preferences
Safety features are a plus not a necessity
The only one that’s actually useful is your car braking for you
People have gon years without blind spot monitoring
To be honest they make people careless
I’m 26 now & even my current car (2021 Lxs modified forte) doesn’t have nor need all of that
Pay attention when you drive it’s not hard
I’m honestly to lazy and enjoy my relaxing commutes. But i love the design and interior. I’ll keep my love for the motorcycles.
Why not get the automatic no need to be shifting gears in heavy traffic. Two less tiresome. Third you actually get the extra safety system. Four you get extra cubby space between shifter and cup holder. Fifth you get shifter paddles on steering wheel. Sixth you don't have that annoying third pedal more space to rest your foot.
Americans
the manual is better for loads of reasons.
You have better control over the car as you directly engage the transmission, this is especially desired in sports cars like the brz. The lack of a torque converter in some manual cars make them more fuel efficient than their automatic counterparts. manual is just flat out much more fun, which si also desired in sports cars like the brz. manual cars are also MUCH cheaper to own, manual transmissions are much simpler in design and are easier to fix. Manual cars are lighter than their automatic counterparts. Etc Etc Etc
Plenty of space for foot rest. Safety systems are questionable in their actual efficacy. You don’t get much more space. Shifter paddles are annoying.
I got the automatic and have zero regrets. I mainly city drive and basically never go to the track.
Im old....got the auto....29k so far no issues
I’m getting an automatic bc well I live in NY 😂
:(
Get a manual and escape that cesspit
Me too, I’m getting auto with gr86 soon with base model ‘cause I don’t know to drive a manual just like my mom did driving school in around 60’s and my uncle drove his 2017 VW golf with manual, too.
and?? You act like the clutch is the equivalent of 'leg day' lolol
@@dre32pitt No, it's different between auto and maunal but the manual is difficult for me to drift a safety road in NY.
“Physically can’t drive it”.
Fun fact:
It’s easier to learn a manual as an automatic driver than it is to learn an automatic as a manual driver.
Also, the automatic isn’t slower than the manual by any means.
Some drivers just don’t know how to launch an automatic for some reason.
Automatics are easier to learn, however they have a higher skill ceiling ironically enough.
I fuck with my gr86 more, idk it’s just really fun to drive and although it’s been through almost 9000 miles, it’s a lot of fun still. I don’t think I’ll get tired of driving at a comfortable speed any time soon, I think later on though I will need to transition my v4 for a v6- v8, for more power, but that’s abt it. And I’m thinking like years years ahead, not anytime soon; more like when I’m 32 or sum, where I can be financially reckless at times.
I have a reason, I live uphill🤣🤣🤣
That just makes for easy bump starts. You won’t even need a starter half the time.
@@Burns11112 Going down is easy. Braking when traffic starts is the crazy part
@@Mk5mango you just use the e brake to hold yourself there while you give it gas and let off the clutch. If you do it right you’ll roll back less than an auto.
“You have 3 pedals” no shit????
So basically theres no reason not to buy the automatic other than "its less fun"
Yes
I mean why would you buy a sports car that isn’t fun.
Just buy an auto Camry man, if you don’t want fun
I mean it's still fun. Some people are kinda snobs about cars and certain shit. If you like how it handles, rides, glides and drifts you should have the time of your life. A sports car is a sports car
Geez I didn't know manuals have 3 pedals 😯
lmao
Real drives do not need lane departure assistance or blind spots monitoring!
Wait.. where are you finding the manual being .5 seconds faster ??? The automatic has shifters too right ?
Oh it's well known the BRZ is a lot quicker with the manual than the auto. That's not usual, but it's true for the BRZ/86
In this type of car I would never consider the automatic. However 44k is expensive for this type of car.
Below $50K for a sports car is now on the affordable side. With many hot hatches heading north of $50-60K here in AU
Dude 44k of upside-down-dollars is about as cheap as it gets for this kind of car. You talking about non-abo-murdering dollars or.....?
@@yannyyansen9743 all forms of currency have paid for the murders of others
37k out the door, 2.9% interest promotion for my subaru brz Limited. had to get the headed seats and the wheels
I will probably gonna be going with auto, I know how to shift and do clutch but I just don’t trust myself with it grinding the gear away xD
Nah, you'll be good. Go the manual!
THREE PEDALS?! NOW WAY
I hate paddle shifters in automatics, I miss the stick shifting.
lighting McQueen
I love manual cars but all your points are ridiculous
0.5 seconds faster? You’re not going to notice that
Paddle shifters in the way? Never been an issue on any auto sportscar I’ve driven
You get 3 pedals on the manual? No shit??
I think the extra features are better than having a stick
All reasons why you should buy automatic
ew no thanks
OFC IM CHOOSING MANUAL
the automatic BRZ should be illegal the brz is and MEANT TO BE A MANUAL
I hate the automatic BRZ so much
It should be ILLEGAL A FELONY AND A CRIME!
Excellent passion
@@ProductReviewCars yep 👍🏼
Too bad auto didn’t come with dual clutch. Still bought auto because it’s daily, I live in city, and getting old 😂
Would have been a little more exciting
I live in the uk , automatic is better , theres no point having manual when the speed limit is 30mph
bruh
I think I may end up shilling for the auto once I save enough for a brz just to have one less thing to worry about, I think paddle shifters could be fun if I learn them. My current car has "manual" but it downshifts for you and all that, still fun if I need to get to speed faster though.
Manual won’t get stolen at fuel pumps
Either way im getting a sequential gearbox for it
Okay, I’ll allow it
Still going with the auto
:(
What’s the matter? You’re not scared, are you?
@@Burns11112i been reading the comments and you reply to every single one of them 💀 get a life brooo
Dont get manual. Get automatic. It's NOT 1924. It's 2024.
Dang bro can someone teach me to drive manual 🙁
its easy to learn. lots of videos out there. when youre finally in a manual car, practice stop and go with just the clutch in 1st gear to get a feel for the bite point
It’s easy to learn but just remember the whole point of driving a manual is to try not to stall the car
Automatic has paddle shifters. Its automatic for me
Kinda weird that a manual actually has three pedals is that somthing only the brz has???
I’m joking, I’m not dumb
lol
It's only the driver,auto with paddle shifters is faster with a new driver
It's literally a physical limitation of the automatic gearbox...
I want paddles
I fr hate when people say autos are faster, like yes the fucking 500hp camaro ss 10speed auto is slightly faster than the auto camaro ss, like 5 speed auto in the brz ain't shit😭😭
I will be getting the automatic thanks.
Boooo
😂
Boooooooooooo
Soo I didn’t hear any valid reason why to not get a automatic besides his personal preferences
Soooo it's slower than the manual?
@@ProductReviewCars the 0-60 time Toyota states for the automatic were not done using the manual mode with the paddle shifter, just in standard drive mode where the car short shifts. They did the test this way to sell more manuals. I’ve driven both the auto and manual and the auto is faster in most circumstances in manual mode 0-60. No rev hang and instant up shifts. Either way, no one buys this car to go fast in a straight line.
@@ProductReviewCarsit’s only slower in 0-60, straight line
In a day track is faster
lighter too
Exactly
as long as the car has paddle shifters or a +/- mode i wont get it.
Don’t ask me to get a manual because I don’t know how to drive a manual all right
Need to learn so you drive the good cars
I’ll give you one… because it’s a sports car
ill take the auto thank you
The manual does 0-60mph in just 2.1 seconds?? Yeah no.
it's seconds FASTER than the Auto not a 0-100km/h time
@@ProductReviewCarsyou sad it is nearly 4.5 seconds fast to 100km/h. That would made its a 2.1 second car
Nah I’ll still get an automatic
Grab something with a dual clutch if you must :(
@@ProductReviewCars who cares tbh why you sad over what another man bought childish
The whole point of these cars is fun with what power you do have (not a whole lot, but very responsive and linear). The auto in these basically removes the fun aspect and reduces response so now you have a hairdresser car that’s only really meant to look like a sports car.
Manual is essential for the new BRZ/86
#savethemanuals!
Kids...........
cant wait for my 23brz automatic
:(
manual sucks i want my car to work and not be a mission to drive
None of these concern me
Okay
OMG A FULL .5 OF A SECOND FASTER WHAT A CRAZY REASON 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱🚮🚮🚮🚮
You rarely ever see a manual transmission option being the quicker car
Autos better because it's not made of glass like the manual and can handle over double stock horsepower
Haven't heard issues with the manual handling bigger HP gains tbh
People literally make triple the stock horse power on the 1st gen manuals. You must be smoking that glass.
Who tf buys an automatic brz 😑😑
Too many people
@@ProductReviewCars let me reword that
“Too many idiots”
Manual is overrated
Depends on what transmission you're replacing it with? This one ain't it.
AUTO IS BETTER 😡
Absolutely not
Loser
😅
Who tf gets this in an automatic
Funny story…
Me
Lazy people/posers
People who don't want to shift but still like the car. Why do some people feel offended by other peoples decisions 😂
People who drive it everyday in traffic and don’t want to be annoyed. No reasons for manuals in 2022
WHAAA
A sports car without a manual just isnt a sports car. Even with the models that are faster in auto form like a GTI or Mustang. The auto ruins the entire experience of the vehicle. The owners always have to try to justify their bad purchase or lack of driving skill by saying "but the auto is faster."
A case for the autos. Not all manual transmissions are good manual transmissions.
So is a Lamborghini huracan not a sports car cause it's "auto"?
@@jwmmt8249 Yep. That is correct. Thats just a rich bitches car that has money but doesnt actually know how to drive on a track or any real race car.
Nonsense, the DSG GTI is miles better than its manual counterpart. Every high end supercars from Ferrari, Lambo, Bugatti etc are all automatic (actually dual clutches) nowadays. They’re not sports cars?
@@Mav86asian Nope they are not. "SPORT" means to compete. Racing on a road course, autocross, dragstrip etc is a sport. There is competition happening. By driving an automatic you are basically taking handicap points. You want to "compete" but not really. You aren't good enough to work 3 pedals, bang gears and nail heel toe downshifts while steering at the same time. Sure "autos are faster" when they do all the hard work that involves skill for you. Anybody can drive a car in a straight line or even around a race track and make it look easy with an auto. Thats because it is easy. All those expensive exotic cars are driven by rich people with zero actual driving skill. If you like performance numbers on paper, sure go buy an auto. If you like to actually compete with others on a track and not get laughed at you need to drive a manual. I have been a member of a private race club for 10 years. Nobody drives an auto. A real enthusiast just doesnt.
44k for a shitbox that’s slower than a Prius? And it’s a wanna be sports car😂
Who says it’s slower than a Prius? It’s good in others things but not speed just because it’s slower doesn’t mean it’s a wannabe sports car
@@Jordanball-ib3iw there’s a video of it losing to a prius and yes it’s a wanna be sports car, because if it wasn’t it wouldn’t call itself apparently somehow a “sport” car. It’s a slow shitbox. But doesn’t surprise me u have a dumb opinion when u support terrorists with that pfp