Awh I cried for Trinity, what a career. Florida did so great!! Everyone stepped up, Victoria with a great all-around, Sloane leading them off and Riley doing her best routines. Not to forget Kayla and Leannes steady performances. So proud
I cried at Trinity's vault too; and do I think Fla could have done better -- yes. I'm disappointed at the Oklahoma win but not surprised or angered. 🧘♀️
cried for and with Trinity! What a superstar. She received so many 9.975s in her career that could have easily been a 10. So happy she was able to nail down a 10 here tonight.
Congratulations to Oklahoma I was really rooting for Florida but it is what it is. I'm Just overall impressed with the level of gymnastics from all the competitors I was also really happy to see How hard Utah and LSU fought to get here
@@malcolmpalmer569 Oklahoma was given a lot of favours too, but a lot of people won’t admit that. They had inflated scores, and it added up to more than the difference between them and Florida.. It is genuinely discouraging because teams know they can’t win because the scoring is so bad.
Trinity will be greatly missed, we will no longer see her in action, we will no longer be graced with her incredible talent, but I wish her an incredible and happy journey.
Looking at Olivia’s beam score.. It was dropped so i know it didnt count but just for the purpose of the message, she had 2 major breaks in her routine and scored a 9.825.. There were 2 or 3 routines that LSU did that werent perfect but were better and scored either the same or less.. It just doesnt make sense! Audrey Davis got a 9.95 on beam which she did amazing. Kayla and Slone both had picture perfect routines also and only got scored a 9.9 each. Kayla and Rachel only scored 9.9 on the floor yet Ragan scored a 9.9125 (with a move of the front foot), Faith scored a 9.925 (with a move of the front foot) and Danae got a 9.9375 (a hop back on the first landing). Considering Kayla and Rachel both had a pretty near perfect routine, their scores should’ve reflected the same.. It may not seem that big of a deal but those little differences make a huge difference.. Florida only lost by .150..
And Trinity Thomas' bar routine had a much bigger form break on the landing than either of Olivia's on the beam. Trinity's score was a 9.9125. Kayla Di Cello's form is never anything to write home about (she literally never is fully extended in her legs or her body) yet always scores highly... also she hopped on her vault landing and got a 9.9. Aleah Finnegan was totally robbed on her beam score in both the semi-finals and the finals...LeeAnn Wong should have had a .3 deduction for her landing on her first floor pass because she went out of bounds with both feet. We could all go on and on. Bottom line is that OU has the form and execution from the top to bottom of their lineup that no other team has. And they win because of it, and they should. You just never look for the overscores from any other team because you don't mind then.
@@Theoriginalprincess Florida definitely wasn’t robbed on floor, they had clear errors. Florida was amazing on 3 events but floor did them in unfortunately :/ they needed a leanne hit and a trinity routine
Well, the scoring is ridiculous, so at this point, I'm just watching to see the athletes do well and be happy for themselves and their team. On that note, what a JOY to watch Florida, especially Riley McCusker's glow up. And I've never done so much as a back handspring in my life, but I want to be on Jenny Rowland's team. She seems just lovely and supportive.
22:06 can we just talk about this. As a gator I was screaming & so proud of Vic for that beam. Jennie was probably the happiest. She got up there so fast. Gutted they didn’t win. But they rocked the house!!! Love you Trin you will be missed 🤍🤍
Thank you for uploading all the meets. I appreciate your effort throughout this season 💖 Really sad that Florida lost once again, but wow the scoring for Oklahoma was wild. Bobbles on beam , dancing out of landings , hops on vaults but they were rewarded with 9.9’s. If the judges are going to do that , what’s the point of having a final. Just give them the trophy and call it a day.
Yeah.... because six judges didn't know what they were doing? People don't realize that vault is also scored on the approach, the shape of the body in the air, the height and distance, AND the landing. Just tiresome that people have to complain like OU is scored any differently than any other team. Mistakes yes, (like all the teams) but not the driving factor.
these judges are just handing OU the title year after year, the scoring needs to be STANDARDIZED ACROSS ALL TEAMS. ALL TEAMS. no matter how "big or small" they're considered. this truly was florida's year i cannot believe they gave Olivia T. a 9.825 with TWO WOBBLES, countless foot slides on floor and they all got 9.925. at this point the girls need to start questioning it because it truly isn't fair
because OU is praised for their execution I just can't get with the scoring disparity that literally makes a .05 vs .1 difference 9.9 vs 9.875 or 9.95 vs 9.9 sometimes you wonder so accountability for sure
That was OU’s lowest beam score and it was dropped. It didn’t contribute to the team total at all. If it had been lower, it still would have been dropped, so it didn’t make OU win!
Thanks so much for posting this! This is so valuable, as I was watching the feed for my team during the live broadcast. Really great to see what the other teams did. I'm a Utah fan so I'm not happy with how this went, but I need to congratulate all the teams for a great meet.
Trinity Thomas ends her career among gymnasts with 10 more received, she would be the first isolated if the judges had not previously stolen her. I really wanted her to be champion with Florida, but I'm very proud of this group, with their union of how happy they are with each other's individual achievement, congratulations to the entire coaching staff of the Florida gymnast team
Not to mention Olivia’s beam over score, but Oklahoma was definitely overscored on some bars routines- that could have been the difference between Oklahoma and Florida winning. Props to Florida, they fought hard each rotation and rallied together to make the scores as high as possible. Go Gators!
This meet was so fun I was there yesterday and I got to meet Jordan chiles! She was talking to the news people and I got a picture with her she’s so nice!
So so so proud of the Gators they all showed up tonight! End of an era with Trinity Thomas, what a career 👏 🙌 wish her and all the graduates all the best in the future 💙
Don’t worry. They’ll get lots of exposure over the summer months. But honestly, OD is too much of a distraction for them. This is a psychological game, and egos are human.
The difference in Winner/ Loser could’ve been if Florida didn’t have a fall on beam and Floor that could’ve been two big scores for them. Y’all gotta stop blaming judges and actually just accept that OU was the better team. This is coming from someone who was rooting for anyone but OU. If UTAH would have a better vault rotation they could’ve easily been the winner as well, especially with them beating OU in semis.
I’m SO PROUD of my team: Oklahoma Sooners. So consistent and awesome! Florida and Utah made it very exciting. With 10s coming in from Trinity (FL) and Maille O’Keefe (UT), I wondered who would be the top score at the end. I’m happy to see LSU’s resilience in this Final Four Championships. Impressive meet!
I was hoping Utah could finally win again after 28 years but it was not to be. Oklahoma just seems to be training better than anyone and they were able to make the right adjustments to outperform everyone. Florida and Utah were close but OU's superior training seemed to shine through again.
I too was sad. I really felt that Utah had what it takes this season, and in fact they did. They posted the highest score in the semi finals and beat OU by .065 . Unfortunately, they just had a horrible Vault rotation. I don't do the scoring discussion, and I think that it was equally bad for all the teams, as it usually is. What I will point out is that K.J.Kindler is a master at crafting routines that satisfy exactly what the judges want to see. They aren't as flashy as many like UCLA on floor, or beautiful like Utah on beam, or crisp and precise like Florida on bars. But they are finely honed to score. She has proven that she knows exactly what to do. There is nothing wrong with her approach, it is proven to win time and time again. It just isn't my cup of tea. There is a popular saying in "sports ball:" SCOREBOARD! I just don't think that it should apply to WAG. To me the score is secondary to the art. After all it is call Artistic gymnastics.
@@billgreen4592 Yeah, K.J. Kindler does that so well. I was pondering on if NCAA Women's Gymnastics should start using the international scoring system but I'm not sure how that would change the training. They could do a hybrid where the physical requirements on each event don't change much but add in artistic scoring to give some emphasis to the beauty of the sport above the pure mechanics.
@@LunaJLane I think that going to the elite scoring system would not be good. Especially since so many elites come to college so they can still do gymnastics, but with skills lighter on their bodies after doing those skills in elite that give them that higher D score.
I was really hoping that Utah would win especially after the semis I thought they might have a chance but I'm not surprised that Oklahoma won, they are unbeatable
I was really hoping it would be their year... they were so close last year too!! GRRR I wanted Trin to get a NCAA team title.... I wish we could replace her semi--final bar routine with her final routine... she would have gotten a 10 for sure... but I'm so proud of her!!!
This is an excellent point which is rarely stated. Although Ragan was an elite superstar in 2015-17 but struggled with injury in 2018 and had a slow start in OU. Amazing how KJ got FIVE years out of Ragan! Florida is stacked with national team members. They are getting Skye Blakely too and Shilese Jones committed to FL but who knows if she’ll go. Shilese is already 22. I don’t think OU’s dynasty is over by any means. ❤
Thanks for sharing this! So glad to be able to appreciate their hard work! I do wish these networks and schools could figure out a way to show every young woman's routine. It shouldn't have to be a split screen or even the occasional 4 screens at once. The season is short anyways and they put so much of themselves into the sport. They all deserve the screen time and recognition.
im gonna be straightforward and say that ou had some of the most overscored routines... that being said congrats to them, but I am just waiting for the day for the Gators to come out on top💙
They simply tried too hard on vault to get the "stick." That is always a bad thing. They usually relax and let the landing happen. Unfortunately they would have had to do more than stick 1 or two vaults. We lost by .45, that is a big deficit. Even if they matched their season high on vault they still would have lost by .075. They also needed to do a little better on one of the other events. As amazing as Utah Beam routine was had either Grace, or Kara had a perfect landing, it would have made a huge difference. Kara had a "collage stick," and grace took a step. Each had at least a 9.95 if they hadn't have made those errors.
So glad OU took Audrey out of vault and Bell out of floor. It was the right choice! OU deserved the win. Everyone else on here who say they were overscored… go cry about it to the TWENTY FOUR DIFFERENT judges!!
Totally agree that the OU coaches are able to make smart choices! Florida coaches seem to not make the proper changes for example why is Peyton Richards still in so many rotations when she often makes mistakes under pressure.
Jealous, having a stacked Olympians, team USA members don't give you a win. Thier coach is poor, they will never win with her there. She's had the most highly trained teams the last 7-8 yrs and they always choke. Coach gotta go.
@@ronhendricks2010 what on earth is that diarrhea coming out of your mouth, Ron? the only thing Florida could have done better was slip the judges a few bills. n
i disagree i think Oklahoma earned it. Florida didn't perform up to their typical level on floor. It's hard to wonder if they would have won it if Trinity was 100% in AA. Oklahoma hit all their routines. Florida had two misses one on BB and one on floor when Leanne went OB. I thought Oklahoma was the better team today and Florida gave a great effort but just came up short. I was actually rooting for LSU but they obviously needed a miracle to win against Florida or Oklahoma cause of the injuries. Still I was rooting for Florida to comeback at the end because like everyone else it's boring seeing the same team win every year. All that said I think Oklahoma earned it this time.
I will never forgive the judges who give Olivia Trautman 9.825 on beam with 2 big woobles that is good as 9.7. Then i see Kayla and Riley with their perfect beam only got 9.9 and also the other teams doing it better yet get low scores. OU is good team no doubt but they don't need help from the judges.
she got a 9.825 any other athlete from another team would've gone 9.8 9.775 762 that's what's so frustrating not even about OU but they are an example of disparities within scores
I don't think it's being a fan of one team or another, it's literally that the discrepancy in judging is so blatantly obvious that we want transparency. Some teams are just handed good scores by showing up and others deliver high quality performances and don't get credit for it. That's the issue.
@@omglauraelizabeth Especially when people start watching the meet with an intention to ONLY see judging miscalculations for one team, instead of realizing they make mistakes both ways for all teams. Because they're human and can't see replays and all angles etc.
In her dismount her feet were crossed and then of course the hop, which both of those would put her at a 9.9. And then some judges might have taken arm positioning on her leap connection.
Going in - I was like as LONG AS TRINITY GETS another 10 the rest did NOT matter!! And when she did - MY HEART JUST SANG TO THE GODS HONEY! BUT then UF got so close to winning (once again OU OVERSCORED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM), I was so wanting her to win the team, the only title missing from her ALREADY amazing career!
This upsets me.. All FOUR of these teams did absolutely amazing and I will not discredit not one of these teams but these judges have to be talked too and there needs to be adjustments.. My thing is if you do for one, do for all.. There were several routines that Oklahoma did and unfortunately I cannot atest to LSU or Utah because I did feel like they put more focus on Florida but even with just Florida, there were several routines that were identical and/or slightly different however Oklahoma scored several tenths higher then the others.. I understand that gymnastics is a subjective sport but it just has to become more fair. You want the students to be good sports but it’s frustrating when they know that its not being done fairly across the board! I hope and pray that next year it changes because otherwise i fear that the attention women’s gymnastics is getting, its going to go down
I so appreciate this channel. 🌟 That said, the title of this video including awards seemed a little bit misleading. I see Oklahoma fixing their makeup and adjusting their shirts and getting the trophy at the end -- I don't think that's the actual awards ceremony though!
@@1GymFan understood -- no disrespect! I so appreciate your championship posts and all that you do here. (At the same time, I'm sad the season is over and that Oklahoma won.)
All the teams can do the same thing under the same rules. Fla and LSU also dance out of their tumbling passes as does Utah. Floor Ex is tumbling PLUS dancing.
YES SAME. I don’t know what it I but there is something I don’t like about OU but I can’t even put my finger on what it is, there is just something I don’t like about OU.
Michigan was never a threat, OU won because they are the best, they train and work the hardest. Fla has all the names, Olympians, UCLA is a activist school, they have the names too. They just want NIL $$$. Utah and OU are actually in it because they love the sport.
bullshit Florida gave them a run for their money even though Florida had fall on BB and OB on floor. Oklahoma did earn it but it was far from automatic. Florida put the heat on them and that was with their star only competing in two events due to injury.
@@kathys9786 Michigan had a few uncharacteristic mistakes during a Regionals that was arguably over-scored for Denver, the winning team at their location. they didn't even have to count any falls (unlike OU), but their tiebreaker with competitive team LSU ended up relying on all 24 scores instead of just the top 5 per rotation. it was an unfortunate perfect storm that led to their elimination; they were one of the top 5 teams throughout the entire season, and that doesn't change just because of one bad day. I completely agree with Asquared27's initial comment and (as much as I love Florida, Utah, and even UCLA) felt the same after seeing Michigan's elimination at Regionals.
I think that OU was more prepared for pressure environnement, as we saw during the season, Florida did not take the opportunity during early meet to put their team under pressure and now it shows with plenty of little dumb mistakes. Don't be mad FLO fans, your team is great just could not get their best out, no need to say it's judges fault or whatever, OU was overscored on floor when FLO were overscored on UB, it's gymnastic that how it goes, judges can't see everything we see on tv. Also can't people just be happy for others ? OU was the best team all year long so saying they do not deserve it is a bit too much
best team all year I think it depends on who you ask teams seeking to win a national championship need to ask themselves how they can get that .05 that .1 KJ wasn't even really that thrilled with their performance I just want fair scoring across all teams and athletes consistency is key
@Juliette I was referring to teams challenging for a national title again me commenting on OU doesn't change the focus that it should be on the judges and not them like I said KJ is like Kim Mulkey Susan Yuclan if you will they know the winning formula can't take that away
@izran kamal yea I was surprised I will say the charge for every team going fwd is the sticks because at least that ensures 9.9 they need 9.9 at least to beat OU because how you have 2 falls and still get a 198 is beyond me Trinity s 28 10 ten tying record caused me to watch Jamie and Jenny. I'm telling you those were the perfect execution days feet together no movement.
@@laurenk4017 me too. But you know what, if you watch closely, Jenny's perfect tens were not really perfect tens. She was sloppy. But well, maybe at that time not many gymnast can execute well to compare?.. but as for jamie dantzscher, she was perfect.. pointed toes and straight legs..
Florida should have won. Trinity is possibly the greatest person and collegiate gymnast ever. She’s so clutch and just an extraordinary person. I’m going to miss her and happy that she tied the record. Oklahoma on the other hand I hate her very much. The funny thing was a bunch of their routines were underscored but others were massively overscored. The judging was pathetic. Kayla deserved two tens and so did Riley on beam at least. Florida was fantastic and it’s hard not to root for them cause you can see the drive and determination in every single one of them and am heartbroken for all of them but they gave it the fight of their lives and they should be proud of themselves and so should all the coaching staff. I do respect Oklahoma tho because they are a fantastic team but I just don’t like them as people. Their coach especially gets on my nerves. It seems like she has no heart and most of her gymnasts seem to be just like her. The over scoring was just ridiculous and honestly sad that they crushed floridas dreams. I feel really bad and was invested in this team all year long. I hope they all keep their head held high and keep shining like they always have. Hope Trinity has no regrets cause she shouldn’t. I love them all so much and the team is truly fantastic. Go gatorsssssss!!!
You don’t like them? You don’t even know any of them personally? OU is focused. They aren’t there for likes and photo ops. They focus on the task at hand and that’s the mindset. That’s why their so consistent in competition year to year. OU was no more overscored than any other team. Florida gymnasts don’t have as good of good lines and tight form as OU. Lots of knee ends and foot separation from Florida, especially on bars. A fall on beam, huge floors mistakes. Haters gonna hate. The judges know what they’re doing and OU knows how to compete within the code if points to maximize execution.
Can anyone explain why OKLAHOMA is getting moved into the SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE as OU is NEITHER in the South or consider EAST... Someone make this make sense?!? (I think had Trinity been healthy UF would have won... although honestly I think they should have won this time... WTF they lost last year by the same margin too... I swear the judges seem to just looooove OU... They might regret moving to the SEC.... I don't think they're going to get the same judge love as they do c
@@malcolmpalmer569 If you look at Oklahoma's wiki page they say its South CENTRAL... I still argue that it is not the SOUTH or EAST but meh whatever.. (I was born in the west and grew up IN the South....Oklahoma is not a state that I'm going to be 99% of people would consider part of the SOUTH. They are more Central than South. They did it for $$ I think it's sad that they're leaving the conference they created and have been in for 30 years.
@@thegutlesswarrior9488well….you’re not the expert, are you? Your opinion or experience doesn’t equal fact. Oklahoma has long been considered a southern state….hence south central.
Oklahoma should not have been there in the first place. Name any other postseason quad meet in the history of the sport where only one of the four teams has to count a fall, and that's the team that winds up winning the meet. I guess when you're OU and the Regional is in Norman, suddenly everything you do after the second fall is 9.95 worthy. Yes, they were the best team today, much as I was hoping Utah would finally break thru again. But if it's a rule now that they have to win every year, just give them a trophy at the start of the season and tell them to go away so the rest of the teams can compete for a title.
Michigan almost did it too except LSU won on tie breaker. Still LSU was very clutch with their last 3 routines to even keep it tied. It's not impossible to do if you are one of the teams that can score 198 and its early round you can still advance with a lower score. Obviously can't afford that in semi finals or finals though.
@Tom DeMay Michigan us my team and they have Brooks and Wilson returning bumming about Heiskel and Wojcik and Kulos Consistency will be key because as much as I love college gymnastics the scoring disparity and lack of accountability makes me not want to watch
I'm convinced a lot of you don't actually know a lot about gymnastics and just choose to spew bs because your team didn't perform like you expected... 🤷♂️
UCLA is an activist school, the girls go there for NIL deals, not to be the best. Peng Peng Lee, Francis, Peszek, Zamarripa,should be jacked. All that hard work they did to make that school to watch it get jacked by activist and money.
C TBD it's anyone championship sticks need to be a focus so that the teams can get a 9.9 especially like I said since OU only this meet I witnessed scored 9.8 anything so should be interesting all I know is Worley from Kentucky for example phenomenal althete and again other teams and athletes were underscored let's stop talking about OU. They got the the W. other teams need to focus on that extra .05 .1
WTF why is OU moving to the SEC?!?! Since WHEN was Oklahoma considered THE SOUTH?!? SEC = SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE Oklahoma is NOT south or east UGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awh I cried for Trinity, what a career. Florida did so great!! Everyone stepped up, Victoria with a great all-around, Sloane leading them off and Riley doing her best routines. Not to forget Kayla and Leannes steady performances. So proud
I cried at Trinity's vault too; and do I think Fla could have done better -- yes. I'm disappointed at the Oklahoma win but not surprised or angered. 🧘♀️
She is my ex
I cried too! I was in Dickies Arena and the crowd was electric. Trinity is the best and so glad I forced my bf to come with me to see her final meet.
@@baljeetspoiledrichkid5498 Can you stop lmao. Go away
cried for and with Trinity! What a superstar. She received so many 9.975s in her career that could have easily been a 10. So happy she was able to nail down a 10 here tonight.
Twice cried )
And so many 10's they gave her that should of been a 9.50
@@ronhendricks20109.5??
Congratulations to Oklahoma I was really rooting for Florida but it is what it is. I'm Just overall impressed with the level of gymnastics from all the competitors I was also really happy to see How hard Utah and LSU fought to get here
I was pulling for LSU.
It's time for the judges to start publishing their scoring. NCAA Gymnastics scores need more transparency. Period.
🎯 agrees
because scoring isn't fair across exemplary routines
Florida's miscues bit them in the expletive. Once that happened, I KNEW OU was repeating as national champions.
@@malcolmpalmer569 so is OU with their mistakes here and there
Let's not forget about Leanne Wong stepping out of bounds on Floor. That also came back to bite them.
@@malcolmpalmer569 Oklahoma was given a lot of favours too, but a lot of people won’t admit that. They had inflated scores, and it added up to more than the difference between them and Florida.. It is genuinely discouraging because teams know they can’t win because the scoring is so bad.
Trinity will be greatly missed, we will no longer see her in action, we will no longer be graced with her incredible talent, but I wish her an incredible and happy journey.
We'll see her in the Olympics
@@ronhendricks2010 no
@@voleimundial396Yes. She has announced she is training for Paris.
Love Trinity Thomas vault !!! We'll miss her !!!
Too good
Looking at Olivia’s beam score.. It was dropped so i know it didnt count but just for the purpose of the message, she had 2 major breaks in her routine and scored a 9.825.. There were 2 or 3 routines that LSU did that werent perfect but were better and scored either the same or less.. It just doesnt make sense!
Audrey Davis got a 9.95 on beam which she did amazing. Kayla and Slone both had picture perfect routines also and only got scored a 9.9 each.
Kayla and Rachel only scored 9.9 on the floor yet Ragan scored a 9.9125 (with a move of the front foot), Faith scored a 9.925 (with a move of the front foot) and Danae got a 9.9375 (a hop back on the first landing). Considering Kayla and Rachel both had a pretty near perfect routine, their scores should’ve reflected the same.. It may not seem that big of a deal but those little differences make a huge difference.. Florida only lost by .150..
This!!
And Trinity Thomas' bar routine had a much bigger form break on the landing than either of Olivia's on the beam. Trinity's score was a 9.9125. Kayla Di Cello's form is never anything to write home about (she literally never is fully extended in her legs or her body) yet always scores highly... also she hopped on her vault landing and got a 9.9. Aleah Finnegan was totally robbed on her beam score in both the semi-finals and the finals...LeeAnn Wong should have had a .3 deduction for her landing on her first floor pass because she went out of bounds with both feet. We could all go on and on. Bottom line is that OU has the form and execution from the top to bottom of their lineup that no other team has. And they win because of it, and they should. You just never look for the overscores from any other team because you don't mind then.
I said this same thing right after watching. Florida was robbed on floor. It seems like no matter what..judges favor OU. They weren’t perfect
@@Theoriginalprincess Florida definitely wasn’t robbed on floor, they had clear errors. Florida was amazing on 3 events but floor did them in unfortunately :/ they needed a leanne hit and a trinity routine
preach
Well, the scoring is ridiculous, so at this point, I'm just watching to see the athletes do well and be happy for themselves and their team.
On that note, what a JOY to watch Florida, especially Riley McCusker's glow up. And I've never done so much as a back handspring in my life, but I want to be on Jenny Rowland's team. She seems just lovely and supportive.
22:06 can we just talk about this. As a gator I was screaming & so proud of Vic for that beam. Jennie was probably the happiest. She got up there so fast. Gutted they didn’t win. But they rocked the house!!! Love you Trin you will be missed 🤍🤍
Thank you for uploading all the meets. I appreciate your effort throughout this season 💖
Really sad that Florida lost once again, but wow the scoring for Oklahoma was wild. Bobbles on beam , dancing out of landings , hops on vaults but they were rewarded with 9.9’s. If the judges are going to do that , what’s the point of having a final. Just give them the trophy and call it a day.
EXCATLY!!
Yeah.... because six judges didn't know what they were doing? People don't realize that vault is also scored on the approach, the shape of the body in the air, the height and distance, AND the landing. Just tiresome that people have to complain like OU is scored any differently than any other team. Mistakes yes, (like all the teams) but not the driving factor.
Yeah unfair. The judges were stupid
@@justlina2769 six judges but the highest and the lowest dropped. So the other four were blind
@@izrankamal9860 Or NOT blinded by their hatred for a dominant team as you seem to be
these judges are just handing OU the title year after year, the scoring needs to be STANDARDIZED ACROSS ALL TEAMS. ALL TEAMS. no matter how "big or small" they're considered. this truly was florida's year i cannot believe they gave Olivia T. a 9.825 with TWO WOBBLES, countless foot slides on floor and they all got 9.925. at this point the girls need to start questioning it because it truly isn't fair
UCLA (2018) and Michigan (2021) are the only ones to beat OU in most recent years.
Rebekah preach
because OU is praised for their execution
I just can't get with the scoring disparity that literally makes a .05 vs .1 difference 9.9 vs 9.875 or 9.95 vs 9.9 sometimes you wonder so accountability for sure
That was OU’s lowest beam score and it was dropped. It didn’t contribute to the team total at all. If it had been lower, it still would have been dropped, so it didn’t make OU win!
@malcolm Palmer Well yes and no, sorta. Utah beat them in the semi this year. And MI beat them in the regular season.
Thank you so much x 1 million for uploading the semis and the final, and for editing out the commercials!!! 🏆❤️😎🎯👏👏👏
Thank you so much for this and for posting all the meets throughout the season 😊
Thanks so much for posting this! This is so valuable, as I was watching the feed for my team during the live broadcast. Really great to see what the other teams did. I'm a Utah fan so I'm not happy with how this went, but I need to congratulate all the teams for a great meet.
Trinity Thomas ends her career among gymnasts with 10 more received, she would be the first isolated if the judges had not previously stolen her. I really wanted her to be champion with Florida, but I'm very proud of this group, with their union of how happy they are with each other's individual achievement, congratulations to the entire coaching staff of the Florida gymnast team
Not to mention Olivia’s beam over score, but Oklahoma was definitely overscored on some bars routines- that could have been the difference between Oklahoma and Florida winning. Props to Florida, they fought hard each rotation and rallied together to make the scores as high as possible. Go Gators!
Princess - Could’ve, would’ve, should’ve. The language of losers.
Their bars execution was nearly flawless. How were they overscored?
The gators have ongoing form issues throughout all their routines plus a fall on beam
I totally agree!! 😮
@@Chels-fz5uq You'll notice that you'll never get the supporting details for accusations from OU's haters.
This meet was so fun I was there yesterday and I got to meet Jordan chiles! She was talking to the news people and I got a picture with her she’s so nice!
how did Olivia Trautman get a 9.825 on beam? She had 2 major wabbles
Literally what I was thinking
OU inflation
Double standard
Her score was the one dropped
@@justlina2769 it showed that even 3 wobbles you can have high score as long as you are a sooners
So so so proud of the Gators they all showed up tonight! End of an era with Trinity Thomas, what a career 👏 🙌 wish her and all the graduates all the best in the future 💙
sad that they didn't show Lsu very often
I know :(
I noticed that too..
I would have liked to see more of their routines. Sadly, the broadcasters often focus on the leaders and ignore the others.
Don’t worry. They’ll get lots of exposure over the summer months.
But honestly, OD is too much of a distraction for them. This is a psychological game, and egos are human.
Thank You Very Much...⭐
Thank you soooooooooooo much!
I can’t imagine life without Trinity on anchor for Florida.
Like seriously. 🤯
The difference in Winner/ Loser could’ve been if Florida didn’t have a fall on beam and Floor that could’ve been two big scores for them. Y’all gotta stop blaming judges and actually just accept that OU was the better team. This is coming from someone who was rooting for anyone but OU. If UTAH would have a better vault rotation they could’ve easily been the winner as well, especially with them beating OU in semis.
Amazing! Great job. Will you be also posting the individual events too? 🙏
Thank you, as per usual!
I’m SO PROUD of my team: Oklahoma Sooners. So consistent and awesome! Florida and Utah made it very exciting. With 10s coming in from Trinity (FL) and Maille O’Keefe (UT), I wondered who would be the top score at the end. I’m happy to see LSU’s resilience in this Final Four Championships. Impressive meet!
The Sooners leo was made for Danae Fletcher
It really is! Looks so good
She basically won the national championship for OU yesterday on Floor.
She did seem particularly striking in it
Yess!! I don’t really like them lol but on her it looks great 😍!!
thank you!!!
I’m so proud of how far the Florida gators have come.They are my winnersss🎉🤩🐊🐊🐊
I was hoping Utah could finally win again after 28 years but it was not to be. Oklahoma just seems to be training better than anyone and they were able to make the right adjustments to outperform everyone. Florida and Utah were close but OU's superior training seemed to shine through again.
I too was sad. I really felt that Utah had what it takes this season, and in fact they did. They posted the highest score in the semi finals and beat OU by .065 . Unfortunately, they just had a horrible Vault rotation. I don't do the scoring discussion, and I think that it was equally bad for all the teams, as it usually is. What I will point out is that K.J.Kindler is a master at crafting routines that satisfy exactly what the judges want to see. They aren't as flashy as many like UCLA on floor, or beautiful like Utah on beam, or crisp and precise like Florida on bars. But they are finely honed to score. She has proven that she knows exactly what to do. There is nothing wrong with her approach, it is proven to win time and time again. It just isn't my cup of tea. There is a popular saying in "sports ball:" SCOREBOARD! I just don't think that it should apply to WAG. To me the score is secondary to the art. After all it is call Artistic gymnastics.
@@billgreen4592 Yeah, K.J. Kindler does that so well. I was pondering on if NCAA Women's Gymnastics should start using the international scoring system but I'm not sure how that would change the training. They could do a hybrid where the physical requirements on each event don't change much but add in artistic scoring to give some emphasis to the beauty of the sport above the pure mechanics.
@@LunaJLane I think that going to the elite scoring system would not be good. Especially since so many elites come to college so they can still do gymnastics, but with skills lighter on their bodies after doing those skills in elite that give them that higher D score.
Your The Best 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
I was really hoping that Utah would win especially after the semis I thought they might have a chance but I'm not surprised that Oklahoma won, they are unbeatable
Was rooting for florida soooo much 😢
They would've gotten it if judges didn't overscore with mistakes in OU team !!! People are now talking about the judging system and scoring system !!!
I was really hoping it would be their year... they were so close last year too!! GRRR I wanted Trin to get a NCAA team title.... I wish we could replace her semi--final bar routine with her final routine... she would have gotten a 10 for sure... but I'm so proud of her!!!
Amazing how OU is able to win simply because they are the best TEAM, with no elite superstars. What a program, always in the top 2 or 3 every year.
This is an excellent point which is rarely stated. Although Ragan was an elite superstar in 2015-17 but struggled with injury in 2018 and had a slow start in OU. Amazing how KJ got FIVE years out of Ragan! Florida is stacked with national team members. They are getting Skye Blakely too and Shilese Jones committed to FL but who knows if she’ll go. Shilese is already 22.
I don’t think OU’s dynasty is over by any means. ❤
We barely see lsu, the producers are a little sleepy. Anyway thanks for posting again! Love a good gymnastics night!!
9.95 for Olivia on bars is laughable.
-0.5 for short half pirouette
-0.5 for short cast handstand
-0.5 for “hop” on landing if being picky
Thanks for sharing this! So glad to be able to appreciate their hard work! I do wish these networks and schools could figure out a way to show every young woman's routine. It shouldn't have to be a split screen or even the occasional 4 screens at once. The season is short anyways and they put so much of themselves into the sport. They all deserve the screen time and recognition.
im gonna be straightforward and say that ou had some of the most overscored routines... that being said congrats to them, but I am just waiting for the day for the Gators to come out on top💙
Which ones were overscored in your opinion?
Me too! Wanted the gators to win for Trinity!
I think if Utah maybe tried to over rotate there vaults and stuck 1 or 2 vaults they would have won because of there great beam and bars rotation.
I forgot Utah had miscues too.
They simply tried too hard on vault to get the "stick." That is always a bad thing. They usually relax and let the landing happen. Unfortunately they would have had to do more than stick 1 or two vaults. We lost by .45, that is a big deficit. Even if they matched their season high on vault they still would have lost by .075. They also needed to do a little better on one of the other events. As amazing as Utah Beam routine was had either Grace, or Kara had a perfect landing, it would have made a huge difference. Kara had a "collage stick," and grace took a step. Each had at least a 9.95 if they hadn't have made those errors.
Yaaaas 🔥🔥
Just watched P&G classic from 2016. I didnt realize Ragan Smith has been at it a long time at a high level
So glad OU took Audrey out of vault and Bell out of floor. It was the right choice! OU deserved the win. Everyone else on here who say they were overscored… go cry about it to the TWENTY FOUR DIFFERENT judges!!
Totally agree that the OU coaches are able to make smart choices! Florida coaches seem to not make the proper changes for example why is Peyton Richards still in so many rotations when she often makes mistakes under pressure.
Well Congrats OU again. But FLORIDA is the better team if the judging was just fair.
Florida was robbed on beam.
Jealous, having a stacked Olympians, team USA members don't give you a win. Thier coach is poor, they will never win with her there. She's had the most highly trained teams the last 7-8 yrs and they always choke. Coach gotta go.
@@ronhendricks2010 what on earth is that diarrhea coming out of your mouth, Ron? the only thing Florida could have done better was slip the judges a few bills. n
I think that last year, OU deserved the win. But this year Florida was 100% robbed.
i disagree i think Oklahoma earned it. Florida didn't perform up to their typical level on floor. It's hard to wonder if they would have won it if Trinity was 100% in AA. Oklahoma hit all their routines. Florida had two misses one on BB and one on floor when Leanne went OB. I thought Oklahoma was the better team today and Florida gave a great effort but just came up short. I was actually rooting for LSU but they obviously needed a miracle to win against Florida or Oklahoma cause of the injuries. Still I was rooting for Florida to comeback at the end because like everyone else it's boring seeing the same team win every year. All that said I think Oklahoma earned it this time.
I will never forgive the judges who give Olivia Trautman 9.825 on beam with 2 big woobles that is good as 9.7. Then i see Kayla and Riley with their perfect beam only got 9.9 and also the other teams doing it better yet get low scores. OU is good team no doubt but they don't need help from the judges.
she got a 9.825 any other athlete from another team would've gone 9.8 9.775 762 that's what's so frustrating
not even about OU but they are an example of disparities within scores
Trinity is my favorite! I love her!
Being a fan of one team is a lousy starting point for attacking the judges.
I don't think it's being a fan of one team or another, it's literally that the discrepancy in judging is so blatantly obvious that we want transparency. Some teams are just handed good scores by showing up and others deliver high quality performances and don't get credit for it. That's the issue.
@@omglauraelizabeth Especially when people start watching the meet with an intention to ONLY see judging miscalculations for one team, instead of realizing they make mistakes both ways for all teams. Because they're human and can't see replays and all angles etc.
So sad that ucla didnt make it to the final😢
I’m hopeful for next year. They’ve already improved so much with this first year with Janelle.
Their score was high enough but they were in the wrong semi final :(
Jordin childs was the only prominent gymnast of UCLA
@@izrankamal9860 wrong. there are multiple former national team members on the ucla team. Not to mention that Ana is a world medalist...
@@natascha_o but i do not know why.. i feel childs was the most outstanding one
I cant help but wonder what if TT did all four events.
I started crying
Oklahoma deserved their win last year, but Florida were absolutely robbed this year. Judging is ridiculous
Only a 9.875 for Victoria on beam?? What other deduction was there besides the hop?
In her dismount her feet were crossed and then of course the hop, which both of those would put her at a 9.9. And then some judges might have taken arm positioning on her leap connection.
Going in - I was like as LONG AS TRINITY GETS another 10 the rest did NOT matter!! And when she did - MY HEART JUST SANG TO THE GODS HONEY! BUT then UF got so close to winning (once again OU OVERSCORED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM), I was so wanting her to win the team, the only title missing from her ALREADY amazing career!
😘😘😘🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😘😘
Thank you for sharing..Nice finals.
they didn't shoe riley's bars :(
This upsets me.. All FOUR of these teams did absolutely amazing and I will not discredit not one of these teams but these judges have to be talked too and there needs to be adjustments.. My thing is if you do for one, do for all.. There were several routines that Oklahoma did and unfortunately I cannot atest to LSU or Utah because I did feel like they put more focus on Florida but even with just Florida, there were several routines that were identical and/or slightly different however Oklahoma scored several tenths higher then the others..
I understand that gymnastics is a subjective sport but it just has to become more fair. You want the students to be good sports but it’s frustrating when they know that its not being done fairly across the board!
I hope and pray that next year it changes because otherwise i fear that the attention women’s gymnastics is getting, its going to go down
They should honestly move to AI judging and put all these idiots out of work. At least it would be consistent between athletes and teams.
preach 💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯
I so appreciate this channel. 🌟
That said, the title of this video including awards seemed a little bit misleading. I see Oklahoma fixing their makeup and adjusting their shirts and getting the trophy at the end -- I don't think that's the actual awards ceremony though!
yes that's all the awards video that was shown, the individual awards was badly shown at the end of semifinal #2.
@@1GymFan understood -- no disrespect!
I so appreciate your championship posts and all that you do here. (At the same time, I'm sad the season is over and that Oklahoma won.)
Barts comment about 2nd rotation scores OU 9.9 only team multiple
I am hoping other teams are inspired to fight for that extra tenth
Competition rigged. No way Florida doesn’t take it. Oklahoma way over-scored on vault rotation.
i love you
Florida deserved to win. Period. Judges probably all have an OU flag planted in their front yard. Such a joke. Gators=true champs!
Victoria so graceful on beam
I love watching women's gymnastics they are all gorgeous women OMG
So dance out of the passes way too much by the sooners in particular. It should be ruled out. It easily tamps down on landing deductions on floor.
All the teams can do the same thing under the same rules. Fla and LSU also dance out of their tumbling passes as does Utah. Floor Ex is tumbling PLUS dancing.
UTAH unis are so pretty but…..do u usually see college color unis postseason? Or no??
I’m honestly tired of this OU reign.
All castles crumble at the end of the reign !!!
Same, and ou were so overscored I mean Olivia trautman had 2 big wobbles on beam and still got a 9.825
YES SAME. I don’t know what it I but there is something I don’t like about OU but I can’t even put my finger on what it is, there is just something I don’t like about OU.
@@ieuanwainwright98 And the score was dropped so not even a factor.
@@justlina2769 it was the factor. Showing that the judging was unfair.. big scores with two wobbles.
I told y’all that once Michigan was out Oklahoma had a straight shot to the championship told y’all they were gonna win
With mistakes !!! Judges were dead wrong at this national !!!
Michigan was never a threat, OU won because they are the best, they train and work the hardest. Fla has all the names, Olympians, UCLA is a activist school, they have the names too. They just want NIL $$$. Utah and OU are actually in it because they love the sport.
bullshit Florida gave them a run for their money even though Florida had fall on BB and OB on floor. Oklahoma did earn it but it was far from automatic. Florida put the heat on them and that was with their star only competing in two events due to injury.
If MI was so great, they would have been at finals. They beat OU at home.
@@kathys9786 Michigan had a few uncharacteristic mistakes during a Regionals that was arguably over-scored for Denver, the winning team at their location. they didn't even have to count any falls (unlike OU), but their tiebreaker with competitive team LSU ended up relying on all 24 scores instead of just the top 5 per rotation. it was an unfortunate perfect storm that led to their elimination; they were one of the top 5 teams throughout the entire season, and that doesn't change just because of one bad day. I completely agree with Asquared27's initial comment and (as much as I love Florida, Utah, and even UCLA) felt the same after seeing Michigan's elimination at Regionals.
Oklahoma killed on bars
I think that OU was more prepared for pressure environnement, as we saw during the season, Florida did not take the opportunity during early meet to put their team under pressure and now it shows with plenty of little dumb mistakes. Don't be mad FLO fans, your team is great just could not get their best out, no need to say it's judges fault or whatever, OU was overscored on floor when FLO were overscored on UB, it's gymnastic that how it goes, judges can't see everything we see on tv. Also can't people just be happy for others ? OU was the best team all year long so saying they do not deserve it is a bit too much
best team all year I think it depends on who you ask
teams seeking to win a national championship need to ask themselves how they can get that .05 that .1
KJ wasn't even really that thrilled with their performance
I just want fair scoring across all teams and athletes
consistency is key
@@laurenk4017 consistency in scoring or consistency in routines ? Because OU is consistent nobody can deny that
@Juliette I was referring to teams challenging for a national title
again me commenting on OU doesn't change the focus that it should be on the judges and not them like I said KJ is like Kim Mulkey Susan Yuclan if you will they know the winning formula can't take that away
I'm gonna miss Trinity 😪😭🤎
Oivia trautman should have lower score on beam
agreed only because if it were any other athlete it would've been
@@laurenk4017 3 big wobbles. Blind judges
They wanted oklahoma to win
@izran kamal yea I was surprised
I will say the charge for every team going fwd is the sticks because at least that ensures 9.9 they need 9.9 at least to beat OU because how you have 2 falls and still get a 198 is beyond me
Trinity s 28 10 ten tying record caused me to watch Jamie and Jenny. I'm telling you those were the perfect execution days feet together no movement.
@@laurenk4017 me too. But you know what, if you watch closely, Jenny's perfect tens were not really perfect tens. She was sloppy. But well, maybe at that time not many gymnast can execute well to compare?.. but as for jamie dantzscher, she was perfect.. pointed toes and straight legs..
@@izrankamal9860 vault Jenny
That definitely would of won if trinity would did beam n floor
Ugh. I can’t even explain it, but I really can’t stand Oklahoma. This era really needs to end.
Eu realmente não entendo o porque da kayla dicello estar na faculdade e também como sênior. Ou ela saiu? Não entendi kkkk
Florida should have won. Trinity is possibly the greatest person and collegiate gymnast ever. She’s so clutch and just an extraordinary person. I’m going to miss her and happy that she tied the record. Oklahoma on the other hand I hate her very much. The funny thing was a bunch of their routines were underscored but others were massively overscored. The judging was pathetic. Kayla deserved two tens and so did Riley on beam at least. Florida was fantastic and it’s hard not to root for them cause you can see the drive and determination in every single one of them and am heartbroken for all of them but they gave it the fight of their lives and they should be proud of themselves and so should all the coaching staff. I do respect Oklahoma tho because they are a fantastic team but I just don’t like them as people. Their coach especially gets on my nerves. It seems like she has no heart and most of her gymnasts seem to be just like her. The over scoring was just ridiculous and honestly sad that they crushed floridas dreams. I feel really bad and was invested in this team all year long. I hope they all keep their head held high and keep shining like they always have. Hope Trinity has no regrets cause she shouldn’t. I love them all so much and the team is truly fantastic. Go gatorsssssss!!!
You don’t like them? You don’t even know any of them personally? OU is focused. They aren’t there for likes and photo ops. They focus on the task at hand and that’s the mindset. That’s why their so consistent in competition year to year. OU was no more overscored than any other team. Florida gymnasts don’t have as good of good lines and tight form as OU. Lots of knee ends and foot separation from Florida, especially on bars. A fall on beam, huge floors mistakes. Haters gonna hate. The judges know what they’re doing and OU knows how to compete within the code if points to maximize execution.
The dynasty continues. BOOMER SOONER. Great meet by all the teams.
Florida deserved!
Can anyone explain why OKLAHOMA is getting moved into the SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE as OU is NEITHER in the South or consider EAST... Someone make this make sense?!? (I think had Trinity been healthy UF would have won... although honestly I think they should have won this time... WTF they lost last year by the same margin too... I swear the judges seem to just looooove OU... They might regret moving to the SEC.... I don't think they're going to get the same judge love as they do c
Same reason UCLA is moving to the Big 10. $$$$
Oklahoma is in the SOUTH:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
@@malcolmpalmer569 If you look at Oklahoma's wiki page they say its South CENTRAL... I still argue that it is not the SOUTH or EAST but meh whatever.. (I was born in the west and grew up IN the South....Oklahoma is not a state that I'm going to be 99% of people would consider part of the SOUTH. They are more Central than South. They did it for $$ I think it's sad that they're leaving the conference they created and have been in for 30 years.
Oklahoma is considered to be in the south by some
@@thegutlesswarrior9488well….you’re not the expert, are you? Your opinion or experience doesn’t equal fact. Oklahoma has long been considered a southern state….hence south central.
Oklahoma should not have been there in the first place. Name any other postseason quad meet in the history of the sport where only one of the four teams has to count a fall, and that's the team that winds up winning the meet. I guess when you're OU and the Regional is in Norman, suddenly everything you do after the second fall is 9.95 worthy. Yes, they were the best team today, much as I was hoping Utah would finally break thru again. But if it's a rule now that they have to win every year, just give them a trophy at the start of the season and tell them to go away so the rest of the teams can compete for a title.
Your not too bright. They were #1 wire to wire. You embarrass yourself with your foolish comments.
Michigan almost did it too except LSU won on tie breaker. Still LSU was very clutch with their last 3 routines to even keep it tied. It's not impossible to do if you are one of the teams that can score 198 and its early round you can still advance with a lower score. Obviously can't afford that in semi finals or finals though.
agree I know low score dropped but they had 2 falls in the past Era thar would've taken them out of the running 🎯💯
@Tom DeMay Michigan us my team and they have Brooks and Wilson returning bumming about Heiskel and Wojcik and Kulos
Consistency will be key
because as much as I love college gymnastics the scoring disparity and lack of accountability makes me not want to watch
@@ronhendricks2010 Oh, the irony in "Your not too bright."
I'm convinced a lot of you don't actually know a lot about gymnastics and just choose to spew bs because your team didn't perform like you expected... 🤷♂️
Sounds like you're projecting... cause you don't have any facts for your comment...😂
Biiig surprise blah blah. UCLA would’ve shook the waters BEFORE the last rotation but whatever 🙄 yes I’m salty.
UCLA is an activist school, the girls go there for NIL deals, not to be the best. Peng Peng Lee, Francis, Peszek, Zamarripa,should be jacked. All that hard work they did to make that school to watch it get jacked by activist and money.
Let's not forget about the dark side of UCLA behind closed doors 🤔
I am noticing someone wearing rather long fake nails. How can that be allowed? Does anyone know?
Congrats OU..BOOMER!
Big question is whether we'll see OU winning their 7th national championship in 2024 since they'll be joining the SEC?
A.) YES
B.) NO
C.) TBD
C TBD it's anyone championship
sticks need to be a focus so that the teams can get a 9.9
especially like I said since OU only this meet I witnessed scored 9.8 anything so should be interesting
all I know is Worley from Kentucky for example phenomenal althete and again other teams and athletes were underscored let's stop talking about OU. They got the the W.
other teams need to focus on that extra .05 .1
OU will now win the SEC championships, too. Go OU!
Something tells me Florida will slowly implode soon.
WTF why is OU moving to the SEC?!?! Since WHEN was Oklahoma considered THE SOUTH?!? SEC = SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE Oklahoma is NOT south or east UGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
Booooo😮
Absolutely disgusting judging. Florida is the real winner, not Oklahoma. I said what I said.
Hate it.
Let’s go Boomer Sooner they showed again that we are the best. OU🫶🏼