Arrow : Oliver and Felicity 4x15 ALL SCENES(Felicity Finds Out About Oliver's Son)(I Need Space)
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- Arrow : Oliver and Felicity 4x15 ALL SCENES(Felicity Finds Out About Oliver's Son)(I Need Space)
Arrow : Oliver and Felicity 4x15 ALL SCENES(Felicity Finds Out About Oliver's Son)(I Need Space)
Arrow : Oliver and Felicity 4x15 ALL SCENES(Felicity Finds Out About Oliver's Son)(I Need Space)
Arrow : Oliver and Felicity 4x15 ALL SCENES(Felicity Finds Out About Oliver's Son)(I Need Space)
Arrow : Oliver and Felicity 4x15 ALL SCENES(Felicity Finds Out About Oliver's Son)(I Need Space)
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This was just about as stupid as Iris getting mad at Barry for taking Nora back to her time for lying about being led by Thawne
i hate how everybody is like Felicity was so immature but literally her whole argument is that Oliver doesn't trust her
but shes literally wrong?
He couldn’t tell her
He did tell her but Barry rewound time.
@@muhammadmalik8662 he could. He didn’t want to.
@@jaide4624 he was forced not to
How can anyone defend felicity for this. Oliver had no choice but keep William a secret at the request of his own mother. Felicity over here bitchin about not being trusted like do you not work for Oliver behind the computers he’s literally trusting her everytime he goes out to guide him and provide electronic backup. This made me like Iris from the flash a million times more
Exactly! I can't believe some people here have no brain!
I honestly don't understand why some people is defending Felicity. Samantha literally told Oliver not to tell Felicity
So f'n what. You say that like it actually means anything. lol
@@TiLoRaine shut the fuck up
@@TiLoRaine It does
She may say she understands Oliver’s situation but later on she’s acting she doesn’t
@@anthonypena5046 yeah
Tbh they’re both in the wrong, one way or another. Felicity should’ve understood why Oliver did what he did and Oliver should’ve put up a fight to at least allow felicity to know. Felicity had the right to feel what she felt bc let’s be honest anyone on her side of the spectrum probably would felt the same.
In my opinion Felicity was the only one who was wrong
@@matiaspereira9382 And that would make you the one that is wrong.
@@TiLoRaine shut the fuck up
@@matiaspereira9382 Junior I know it's hard for you, but you should really try upgrading your deficient vocabulary.
i think the only reason oliver didn’t tell her was cause after barry time travelled he told him that if he tells her it’s gonna end so he interpreted it wrong and thought that because he tells her she breaks up with him.
*Oliver* does trust *Felicity* but he was forbidden from telling her the truth because if he told her he wouldn't had be allowed to see his son or have a relationship with him and I get many have mixed emotions about him not telling *Felicity* but at the same time y'all have to understand, he wanted a chance to get to know his son and have a relationship with him and also he didn't want to give him the kind of life he had with paparazzi following him back and forth
How would sam even know? He is fine lying to his future wife not sam? THis is a pattern for him. It's not the first or last time. It's who he is. It's not that she doesn't love them she just thinks he is not ready for a partnership.
@@kellharris2491 Oliver lies, he keeps secrets, that’s nothing new to her. But it’s the magnitude of this secret that made her so upset, because how can Oliver love her and promise no more lies and then keep the fact he had a son from her? That’s what she’s thinking, and she understands why he did it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it hurt, even if he told her beforehand, it would still hurt
3:50 to 3:57 William isn't her son so it makes sense that she doesn't need Oliver's permission.
Are you and the 23 people who clicked like on that drivel, really that f'n daft? After everything they just went through, you would think that he would have learned something, but he didn't. He should have leaned on her and confided in her and he didn't. At no point did she say that he needed her permission.
@@TiLoRaine i agree with Mr P. Also shut up you're so annoying
@@matiaspereira9382 Sorry little boy, not going to happen. I have no intentions of just sitting idly by, while the misogynists retake the world.
@@TiLoRaine this is exactly how i feel about the people who hates on Dinah's team in season 6 and the ones who think people had the right to be angry at Barry in the 3rd season of Flash
@@matiaspereira9382 I won't be commenting on S3 Barry. I however don't understand the psychology of someone who could actually back NTA after everything they did. Especially after how it all started to begin with.
Honestly I don't understand why everyone is hating on Felicity. Oliver kept this a secret from Felicity for so long and she doesn't care that he has a son, she wants him to trust her, which he clearly doesn't. Felicity is great at keeping secrets and I get he wasn't supposed to tell her, but he could've and Samantha would never know. Everyone is starting to hate Felicity because of this, but it makes sense that she wants Oliver to trust her, and since he doesn't, she doesn't want to be with him.
But this was not just Oliver's secret... it was someone else's secret as well. That is something really important about this. He wanted to wait till the other side was comfortable about sharing the truth with someone else. And that is fair.
Samantha wanted to keep their son a secret. Felicity has no right to barge into their business. It's not her choice to make Oliver tell her whatever she wants whenever she wants. Damn If only Oliver and Felicity never became a thing, that would be so much better
I know right!
No offense but in my opinion people has the right to hate Felicity. Oliver literally told Felicity that Samantha forced him not to tell her about William
@Joseph Frank exactly
So we all gonna ignore the fact that felicity went full Harrison wells?
Curtis' implant.
@@sugardaddy4714 Ik was just kidding🤟
@@jurjank4429 Ok. Always reminds me of Spike in Buffy s02...
That did not pop into my head until now.
everybody taking either oliver or felicity's side when this entire subplot was unnecessary drama written in the worst most contrived way to make both characters look unlikable and ridiculous, it was just a hydrogen bomb that blew all the potential of s4 to smithereens
Oliver could have told Felicity. What was she going to do? Run to Samantha and tell her that Oliver told her? She had the right to know. What if she didn't want children? He was going to make her a stepmom without her permission.
If he did tell her and Samantha found out, she’d take William and Oliver would never see him again. Oliver didn’t want to risk that, but he also wanted Samantha to trust him enough to let Felicity be part of William’s life too. He planned for that, not Malcolm Merlyn handing his son to a man like Damien Darkh out of spite.
Oh my god! Stop defending Felicity you bunch of unempathetic brainless fans! Oliver could've still risked to lose William! Why the hell is that so hard to understand?! I can't believe most Arrowverse fans are so brainless!
It's ok if she didn't want children. That's ok. She does have to live with William, raise him, or even be apart of his life. It's about Oliver being apart of his life
Now I understand Felicity’s feelings in the whole situation, but if there’s one thing I couldn’t stand is how she reacted to it. Keep in mind, every member of team arrow, including the wonderful John Diggle and Felicity herself has lied. What I hate is that we aren’t supposed to bat an eye when everyone else lies but when Oliver does it, he’s immediately condemned for it…kinda hypocritical in my opinion. But that’s just my two cents worth…
And suddenly Felicity turned into Iris in one scene. IT IS HIS SON! If you want to choose your GF or your son then go right ahead. People make their choices and his son's life was above his trust for her. And she couldn't understand that? He didn't trust her because she was in a dangerous line of work and a secret loses its effectiveness with more exposure. And it was not his secret to disclose.
Also people who cannot handle the truth do not earn it.
How would sam even know? He is fine lying to his future wife not sam? THis is a pattern for him. It's not the first or last time. It's who he is. It's not that she doesn't love them she just thinks he is not ready for a partnership.
EXACTLY! Thank you so much! I honestly can't believe most Arrowverse fans don't use their brains!
I’d imagine Felicity and Iris discussing whether or not Samantha was a good mother to William since she lied him (and her family) about who his father is and then force Oliver lie to everyone know (even Felicity) about his son.
As much as i love Felicity, i agree she was being selfish.
I loved felicity, bit she was wrong for this... she knows being his circle is dangerous....
Whats he supposes to do? Tell every girl he wants to marry to see if they handle it like a wife could?
And this is why fans are starting to hate Felicity.
Caleb Williams fuxk you I love felicity
@@kissdiscutee mmmmm..... Salty....
Caleb Williams yes very. I love felicity. I don’t know why people love laurel so much I hate her character as black canary
@@kissdiscutee trust me, I hate Laurel with a passion. I just think Felicity was badly written to purposely incite unneeded drama.
For not understanding the tough spot Oliver was put in.
Felicity is walking for the first time since getting injured and she just walks out the door on Oliver........What an immature diva!!! LOL
made me laugh fr,she really got up out of that wheelchair to leave him😭
@@27hiddenintheleaves I always wanted Oliver to end up with Laurel.......never could stand the character of Felicity (though the actress that played her was amazing). She was too much of a spoiled diva and someone that the character of Oliver would have any interest in for long.
Enough with the "Felicity wouldn't have told anybody" thing! Even if Felicity never told anybody it's possible she could've been in a situation where she would need to reveal the secret to save her life! Oliver did the right thing! End of story
The minority: Felicity had every right to be angry at Oliver
Me: stop defending Felicity you bunch of ignorant fans! It was Samantha's fault not Oliver's!
Exactly! She couldn’t understand that Samantha told Oliver not to say anything, and then after Darhk captured him, they had to do this to keep William safe. And she still didn’t understand, She understood until late season 5 geez!
@@cloudyeyes5507 to be honest I agree with Samantha too. Oliver was too selfish at the time she became pregnant with William
@@cloudyeyes5507 also Samantha wanted to protect William
@@cloudyeyes5507 Also even if Oliver had told Felicity and Felicity still didn't tell anybody it's also a little bit possible Samantha would've found out. What if Felicity knew about William and had to reveal the secret to save her own life? Interrogators can almost always tell their victims are lying
Why did black canary have to die
Lmao fr
Laurel got replaced by this biatch
@@therealdeal8590 Sorry to burst your bubble, but bitch with wifi replaced drug and alcohol addicted bitch, 3 seasons prior.
Samantha and Felicity are both being completely unfair this season. What a joke; Felicity has no right to do this. A child comes b4 her feelings 💯💯💯💯
Oliver was in the right don’t care everyone that saids otherwise is stupid
Exactly! How can anybody take Felicity's side on this?!
Notice how it's mostly men hating on Felicity?
"She has no right to say what happens to William or where he stays." Dumbass. First, Felicity wasn't mad because she didn't have a say on where William lives or what happens to him. Felicity was mad because her soon-to-be-husband didn't trust her enough to inform her about William. So, the bottom line here is Felicity wasn't mad because she wasn't allowed to control William, she was mad because this wasn't the trusting relationship Oliver promised. Second, Felicity does in fact have the right! She's going to be Oliver's wife & mother of his children, not future girlfriend or fling. In other words, if the secret about William wasn't exposed, Oliver basically trapped Felicity into a marriage where sooner or later, she's going to find out that her husband has another family. Now, if a woman were to do that to a man and basically allow him to marry her without telling him she has another son/daughter a couple of miles away, people would accuse the woman of using the man. And yet, when Oliver does it, it's fine? It's not his fault? Asshole.
"It was Samantha's fault not Oliver's!" You're a simplistic idiot, not everything is black or white. If I told you to keep a secret that I killed someone and you did, does that mean that you're still innocent in this situation? No because you became an accomplice to my murder meaning you were partially liable for why a victim wasn't able to gain justice. In this case, just because Samantha promised Oliver not to tell Felicity, it was still Oliver's decision on whether or not to comply by Samantha's wishes. And yes, Samantha may have been using William against Oliver so that he's forced to comply, but it's not like Samantha's going to find out that Oliver told Felicity? After all, Felicity kept way darker secrets of Oliver and yet never manages to slip. So honestly, between a woman you had a one night stand with VS a woman who saved your ass a couple times & who you've decided to marry, did Oliver really have to place his loyalties to Samantha? Yes, they had a child but need I remind you that both of them didn't want that to happen.
"She couldn't look past herself and her hurt feelings to do that. He deserves better than someone who walks out as soon as things get tough." God, the amount of emotional manipulation in this line. Firstly, Felicity DID look past herself & her hurt feelings. She did this all while combatting some mad guy who was trying to kill her husband & her husband's secret child (Watch the episodes god!) . Second, do you honestly think that Felicity should just ignore that her fiancee was seeing another woman & his son behind her back and be, like "oh! it's no problem! let's all be happy now that the secret's out! :)"? That is stupid and honestly, degrading as a woman because it's like Felicity's expected to be this docile & submissive girl that allows Oliver to do whatever he wants. And third, why does Oliver deserve someone better? Is it because he's a hero and he deserves special treatment like being allowed to visit another woman & child behind his fiancee's back? Sure, Oliver deserves all the praise & glory for saving the Earth but when it comes to being a fiancee in this era, he doesn't. At the end, he's a human like all of us, he makes mistakes, and he can be held accountable for that. And honestly, if Oliver deserved someone better, pray tell, who the fuck is it? Can the next woman hack into ARGUS databases & top-secret organizations just to find & save Oliver? Can the next woman be brave enough to argue back at Oliver's face when he's making wrong decisions? Can the next woman take a bullet & be paralyzed for life without blaming Oliver the very least? Can the next woman be loyal enough to take care of Oliver's children until they're old enough and then follow Oliver to the death (spoiler alert!)? Can the next woman push Oliver to be the better hero he is now rather than a bloodthirsty archer whose only thinking process is to kill his enemies? I bet you, no.
it’s not that serious
Oh my god! Stop saying Felicity had the right to be angry! Samantha forced Oliver to not tell Felicity! Why the hell is that so hard to understand?!
I'm a woman and I still don't like Felicity's behaviour. A huge part of my dislike comes from the crossover episodes. Oliver just finds out he's a father and she jumps at him, because he took a minute for himself to just think through it. She accuses him of not running to her on the same day he found out. Because how dare he be in shock like a normal person and not run to her to explain himself on the same day? How dare he go to Barry(or really anyone else at all) before going to her? And she acts like they can't be together, because Oliver needed a minute for himself. Honestly, that left a very bad taste in my mouth, and ever since then it's been hard to be on Felicity's side.
@@moni4369 exactly! I can't believe some people fail to get that! It seems some people don't have a brain
@@moni4369 also in the original timeline Felicity acted like Oliver knew had a son for a few years
What episode is this
4x15
@@hanazaki6324 and fun fact: this was the last episode in which we were closer to the start of the show than to its end. This episode was the 84th episode of the show and we were 86 episodes away from the show's end
I'm side on Felicity this isn't about him having son it's about him trusting her and this isn't the first time everytime he tell them the truth he always have another secret which they always find out by the way and it keeps hurting them, and Felicity is right when she said marriage is about trusting on each other and relying on to each other even when they have something they can't tell their good friends they've always have to trust each other and fight together and Oliver doesn't know how to do that
What people don’t get is that this situation wasn’t about trust.
@@jasonmoukala8909 Exactly. It wasn't.
Oh my god! Stop defending Felicity! Oliver was thinking about his son!
Do people not understand this is a normal reaction to finding out your fiancé has a child they didn’t tell you about? It’s not even that Oliver had a child, it’s that he didn’t trust her enough to tell her about it and trust she can keep the secret. I understand why Oliver didn’t tell her, because if Samantha found out, she’d take William away and Oliver wouldn’t be able to see his son or have any kind of relationship with him. It was an impossible situation, but Oliver was trying to make the best of it, and like he said, he hoped Samantha would eventually trust him enough to let Felicity be a part of William’s life. TBF, Samantha had good reasons for making Oliver promise that, and Felicity had good reasons for being angry, because this whole situation revolves around the fact that Oliver doesn’t trust her with a secret this big. Sure, he kept his promise and told no one, but Malcolm found out and, in a fit of rage he came to regret later, told Damian Darkh, a mass murdering psychopath, about William, putting his life in danger just to spite Oliver. Samantha was very justified in making Oliver that ultimatum, and Oliver’s a good person for keeping that promise, but that doesn’t mean Felicity doesn’t have a right to be upset
and this is why olicity is one of the worst relationships in the show (fully felicity's doing btw)
Only to someone who is highly illogical.
I will NEVER forgive Felicity for this. EVER. She was the only one incapable of maturity out of everyone who found out. What Oliver needed was the same support he has given her multiple times over. She couldn't look past herself and her hurt feelings to do that. He deserves better than someone who walks out as soon as things get tough. He would NEVER treat her the way she has treated him since getting together.
confessionsofoncer felicity walked out on him becuz he planned on keeping it a secret from her. That’s totally wrong
Oliver's response was not mature in any way. He didn't have to listen to Samantha. Felicity has been keeping the fact that Oliver is the Arrow for *years* and she would never betray that information. Oliver could have told her that William is his son, and Oliver should know that she would never tell another soul. Samantha would never know, and Oliver would still be able to know his son. But he didn't trust Felicity enough to tell her the truth, and as a result, there has been this HUGE lie between them for over a year. Trust is probably one of the most important foundations of a relationship, and Oliver broke that.
@@lexi219 But in the end, it wasn't just Oliver's secret. He was keeping someone else's secret... that is something important to remember.
@@kissdiscutee so it’s okay for her to lie to him numerous times but it isn’t okay for him to keep a secret out of respect to his son’s mother?
@@Mayonidas05 I don’t think you understand the severity of this secret. He kept a whole child hidden from her, someone he was going to marry. Also what Samantha asked was unreasonable and he should have trusted felicity enough. Anyone in her position would have felt exactly what she did and probably worse.