Man, I miss wrestling like this so much. Working, limited high spots, psychology, no spamming of finishers/kick-out, overuse of weapons, etc. This is what pro wrestling should be focused on with some exceptions when the story calls for it.
course you know this was All Japan Pro Wrestling (AJPW) at a time when it was one of the Best Professional Wrestling Promotions on the planet. The WWWF/WWF/WWE during that era wasn't even close.
These two sold this match and the Japanese audience showed their true appreciation for the NWA even before the match started with the flowers and pomp... when it ended, Steamboat showed his true character by handing the belt to Flair and shaking his hand, and waving to the crowd as well... back when pro wrestling was LEGIT!!!!
The quality and presentation from Japan from here in the early 80's and even back to the 70's makes it look to me wayyy ahead of it's time. It looks way closer to modern, even the people in the stands.
They had 6 Years of Wrestling each other in Mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling by this point. And battled over a number of Mid-Atlantic Championship Belts and NWA Champions Titles. Yes they were pretty evenly matched and could go hold for hold and move for move.
These two always had such good matches. I love unearthing these AWA and NWA title matches from the 70s and 80s that took part in Japan. The crowd and atmosphere is so unique. Love the Japanese commentary for more authenticity
If Steamboat would have been 10 years younger, he would have won the World Championship belt several times. It's a shame they only ever put it on him one time.
Steamboat came along in the wrong era. This was the period in which the NWA preferred heels as their world champion because the local promoters wanted the heel champion to defend the title against their most popular babyface to generate the biggest gates and make the most money.
That's because that part we couldn't fake sometimes guys got stabbed hit with all kind of objects coming to the ring I'm sure they were not happy about having to go through that crowd even steamboat seem to be upset and he was the Babyface😊
Friday, 6/4/1982 (AJPW: Excite Series - Day 19 ) From: Nagaoka, Nigata ( Japan ) Match 10: Main Event: NWA World HW Title Match Ric Flair ( of. MACW: NWA World HW Champion- Day #260 of 631) ( Reign 1 of 8 ) defeated Ricky Steamboat ( of MACW)
People today don’t understand how popular Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat and Tito Santana were back then. They were like rockstars. When they entered the stadium people would go nuts. The Japanese fans loved Steamboat because he looked Asian and he was their “Bruce Lee”. I don’t think wrestlers got paid that much money back then, but if Steamboat was out today with all the social media, he would have been mega rich.
If Steamboat or Tito were in their primes in the 2000s to 2010s, they would have been multiple times world champions. Today, there are more titles, and the title reigns tend to be a lot shorter. Back then, there were only a couple of big-name world titles, the WWF, the NWA, and the AWA, and the champions tended to hold onto the titles for years, thus there was not a whole lot of opportunity for a lot of guys to have world title reigns.
I'm shocked they only went 20 minutes. LOL!! Ricky Steamboat was the perfect and greatest rival of Flair and the only man who was his equal in the ring!
@@vivahernando1 Dude, wtf are you talking about? The business was actually exposed in the 30's and throughout the years people always knew that it was "fakish". It became "official" in the 90's when McMahon did it.....And as far as "can't put the toothpaste back in" is concerned, sorry but I disagree, unlike you I don't actually need it to be "real" to enjoy it. I just needed it to look real and pretend that it was real. And that IS the art of professional wrestling not the meaningless acrobatic bullsh#t we have today.........
Society got cheap and quick, they want fast-paced crap instead an actual mix of technical wrestling with high spots plus the allure of Kayfabe It's sad. It's a desperate cry of a fast food culture nowadays. Thank God for UA-cam!! This will never die
Wonder why Steamboat wasn’t declared as the first Japanese American to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship, it was history making but he was also first of Asian decent to win that title. Seems like racism there 😔
The territory system was slowly dying out when Vince McMahon Jr. Bought the WWF from his father in 1982 and started poaching all the talent from every territory. But Vince struggled with getting the southern fans, who supported the NWA, to switch over to his product. Flair was very over in the South and was the main reason the NWA stayed afloat as long as it did until Ted Turner purchased the company and renamed it to WCW. I loved the Crockett Jr. era of the 80s but he didn't have the infrastructure to compete with Vince. Flair always loved facing Steamboat. He's said on numerous occasions that Steamboat was one of his favorite opponents.
@@Sweeptheleg83 Thank you very much for answering my comment and telling me the details. I can speak and understand English. There were a lot of proーwrestler I like. My favorite are Bruiser Brody and JohnーStanley Hansen(Stan Hansen）、Giant Baba、Harley Race, etc.
@@rodzor When it comes to Professional Wresting Play by Play, manny Fans have Him Ross on their Mount Rushmore of Professional Wrestling Announcers. I rank Jim Ross up there with The Legendary Gordon Solie and Lance Russell.
小中学生立ち見券1000円で友達と現地で見ていました。馬場さんは、こんな凄いカードを地元だから開催してくれたんだろうなあと子供心に感謝していました。
Man, I miss wrestling like this so much. Working, limited high spots, psychology, no spamming of finishers/kick-out, overuse of weapons, etc. This is what pro wrestling should be focused on with some exceptions when the story calls for it.
Sounds like you are describing Gunther's Matches?
course you know this was All Japan Pro Wrestling (AJPW) at a time when it was one of the Best Professional Wrestling Promotions on the planet. The WWWF/WWF/WWE during that era wasn't even close.
💯💯💯
Now this is more like it. Looking like a real contest instead of a choreographed dance. Love it.
These two sold this match and the Japanese audience showed their true appreciation for the NWA even before the match started with the flowers and pomp... when it ended, Steamboat showed his true character by handing the belt to Flair and shaking his hand, and waving to the crowd as well... back when pro wrestling was LEGIT!!!!
Steamboat, was always a class act. They had a tremendous amount of respect for each other.
Hard to believe that they've know each other for 37 Years?
The quality and presentation from Japan from here in the early 80's and even back to the 70's makes it look to me wayyy ahead of it's time. It looks way closer to modern, even the people in the stands.
この試合は忘れてたわ。
ハンセン、シン、上田、スレーター、リッキー、フレアー
通常シリーズなのにこれだけ豪華なメンバーが参戦してたのは凄い。
＆ジェイ、ハイフライヤーズ！
&クルト・フォン・ヘス、ロン・ミラー
6月にエキサイトシリーズ！
@@亜璃亜矢龍様 敗れたヘスは、ハンセンに怒りのラリアットをくらい、可哀想でした･･･
@@araitomoaki571 様
ふと思いましたが、この2人の選手権が終わるまでハンセンもシンも馬之助さんも控室で待ってたんでしょうかね？(笑)
バス移動なら時間潰ししないと。
各自タクシーで宿泊先に向かったのかな？
なんて、大人になると経費(タクシー代やら)のことやら要らん事を考えるようになりました(笑)
@@亜璃亜矢龍
会館は駅近くで、大き目のホテルは徒歩圏内にもありました。
Please post each and every Flair Steamboat match you may have; probably my favourite marriage in all of wrestling.
Their in ring chemistry with one another was amazing.
Incredible everytime Flair & Steamboat wrestled.
Two masters of wrestling & selling, working the hell for each other.
They had 6 Years of Wrestling each other in Mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling by this point. And battled over a number of Mid-Atlantic Championship Belts and NWA Champions Titles. Yes they were pretty evenly matched and could go hold for hold and move for move.
Best rivalry in Wrestling history. Who knows what might have happened if Steamboat had never gone to the Wwf
At this point they had wrestled each other for over 10 years.
@@Mr50403 more like 6 years
That was a wrestling match!!
They remind me of Ryu and Ken from Street Fighter. Absolutely legends!
😂😂😂
These two always had such good matches. I love unearthing these AWA and NWA title matches from the 70s and 80s that took part in Japan. The crowd and atmosphere is so unique. Love the Japanese commentary for more authenticity
地方会場でNWA世界戦って
全日は贅沢だよなぁ
馬場さんのお膝元の新潟ですからね。
ビッグマッチが組まれることが多かったね。
NWA王者のスケジュールの合わせるので、ビッグマッチの時にタイミングよく呼べるわけじゃないんじゃないかな？
The conditioning of these two legends is unreal !
初めて生のプロレスを観に行った長岡大会、当時小学2年生で親父に連れて行ってもらいましたが良く覚えています。
本当に貴重な映像ありがとうございました😊
My brothers favorite match. RIP KENNY.
フレアーの防衛戦にしては珍しくきれいなピンフォール決着
リッキー・スティムボートの登場曲のライディーンかっこいいな
I never saw it do it any better than these 2
NWA世界ヘビー級のベルトは、これが一番しっくりくるよなぁ👍
この二人かつてはアイドルタッグチームだったんだよね。
さすがフレアー試合運びが上手い。
If Steamboat would have been 10 years younger, he would have won the World Championship belt several times. It's a shame they only ever put it on him one time.
Steamboat came along in the wrong era. This was the period in which the NWA preferred heels as their world champion because the local promoters wanted the heel champion to defend the title against their most popular babyface to generate the biggest gates and make the most money.
Steamboat won that match in my book.
The wrestlers always look so mad when they finally make their way out of the crowd during the entrance.
That's because that part we couldn't fake sometimes guys got stabbed hit with all kind of objects coming to the ring I'm sure they were not happy about having to go through that crowd even steamboat seem to be upset and he was the Babyface😊
リッキースティンボードとジミースヌーカのチョップ合戦が好きやった。
The 10 Pounds of Gold. The NWA title. Flair. Steamboat. Wow.
Magnificent.
Friday, 6/4/1982 (AJPW: Excite Series - Day 19 ) From: Nagaoka, Nigata ( Japan ) Match 10: Main Event: NWA World HW Title Match Ric Flair ( of. MACW: NWA World HW Champion- Day #260 of 631) ( Reign 1 of 8 ) defeated Ricky Steamboat ( of MACW)
Flair & Steamboat has always had the ultimate respect of each other
People today don’t understand how popular Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat and Tito Santana were back then. They were like rockstars. When they entered the stadium people would go nuts. The Japanese fans loved Steamboat because he looked Asian and he was their “Bruce Lee”. I don’t think wrestlers got paid that much money back then, but if Steamboat was out today with all the social media, he would have been mega rich.
If Steamboat or Tito were in their primes in the 2000s to 2010s, they would have been multiple times world champions. Today, there are more titles, and the title reigns tend to be a lot shorter. Back then, there were only a couple of big-name world titles, the WWF, the NWA, and the AWA, and the champions tended to hold onto the titles for years, thus there was not a whole lot of opportunity for a lot of guys to have world title reigns.
アメリカでも滅多に見れない夢のようなカード😂
Flair literally wrestled the same match his entire career
Flair was the ultimate bad guy, I “hated” him in ‘82
昔のレスラーにあって
今のレスラーに無いもの
それは「色気」
ナウいタイトルマッチ‼️
ナウイは死語だね！(笑)
I'm shocked they only went 20 minutes. LOL!! Ricky Steamboat was the perfect and greatest rival of Flair and the only man who was his equal in the ring!
リッキーのセコンドに川田利明が、フレアーのセコンドにターザン後藤がそれぞれいる。
リッキーの入場曲
ライディーン❤😂🎉
ドキドキしてました🎉🎉
Does anyone remember when Steamboat saved Don Kernodle by ripping open the steel cage door!? Ivan an Nikita were beating him ti death in the cage!?
リックフレアーはケチっぽい顔をしているが、凄い気前が
いいらしぃ。
I just don't understand why wrestling isn't like this anymore....Sigh, watching this makes me hate the Young Bucks so much, lol....
AMEN or LIKEWISE!
I hate Romans Reigns and Seths Rollings of new wrestling.
Because the business got exposed to the public in the 90s. When I watched in the 80s we thought it was real. Can’t put the toothpaste back in
@@vivahernando1 Dude, wtf are you talking about? The business was actually exposed in the 30's and throughout the years people always knew that it was "fakish". It became "official" in the 90's when McMahon did it.....And as far as "can't put the toothpaste back in" is concerned, sorry but I disagree, unlike you I don't actually need it to be "real" to enjoy it. I just needed it to look real and pretend that it was real. And that IS the art of professional wrestling not the meaningless acrobatic bullsh#t we have today.........
Society got cheap and quick, they want fast-paced crap instead an actual mix of technical wrestling with high spots plus the allure of Kayfabe It's sad.
It's a desperate cry of a fast food culture nowadays.
Thank God for UA-cam!! This will never die
リックフレアーのうまさよ
wow!!
People say this style doesn’t work anymore. Bullshit.
この二人はまだ若い駆け出しの頃にノース・カロライナのプロモーターだったジム・クロケットに見いだされて、二人でタッグを組んだ仲である。始めの頃にフレアを気に入っているジム・クロケットが亡くなってその息子のジム・クロケットJRがノース・カロライナ地区のプロモーターの跡を受け継ぐ。そのジム・クロケットJRはのちにNWA会長になってフレアを贔屓するのだ。リッキー・Steamboatもジムクロケットの方針に従っていたが、途中でリックフレアが世界タイトルベルトを目指して、巨漢10番勝負を挑んで始めにブルーザーブロディーと戦う。リックフレアのことは同じ若い頃の駆け出しのパートナーだったリッキー・Steamboatがよく知っているのだ。だからのちにリッキーもフレアを破ってNWA王者にもなっている。NWA王者の資格もフレアが独り占めにしてのちに許したのはダスティーローデスとリッキーの二人だけだった。二人ともNWA会長のジムクロケットJRと気に入られて仲良くしていたからだ。リッキーはジムクロケットJRとは父親のジムクロケットの時代から親しい仲であったからだ。フレアのベルトの一人占めの背後にはそういう人間があったのだ。長文失礼。
リッキーは6年後位にNWA王者になるけど、この頃のNWAは権威が落ちてローカルタイトル化していたので
全日本マットでの挑戦者(89年3月)が、当時の序列が4~5番手だったタイガーマスクだったんだよな。
I love Asia
Ric Flair has always said his toughest all time opponent is Ricky Steamboat ( The Dragon )
フレアーと同体格のレスラーでは一番の好敵手だったと思う。
フレアーが4歳年上ですが、もっと年齢が離れているように見える。
プロレスに関しては余り例を見ないイケメン同志の対戦！
ナウいタイトルマッチですね。
If only Steamboat put the “Shoot” on starting 17:17. NWA Champion.
リッキー・スティムボート! アジア系の顔立ちですごいイケメンですね
辻よしなりさんなら、間違いなく『戦う蟹江敬三』って実況する😂
母親が日本人なんだよね。
Flair comes out to 70's porn music🤣
Como esse Ricky Flair apanha hein !
Harder for them to actually get to the ring.
Flair really sold that Chop Ha 🤣
リッキーはWWFからの出戻り状態で戴冠したのもマイナスでしたね、あの当時既に「WWF≫≫≫NWA」でしたから。
Wonder why Steamboat wasn’t declared as the first Japanese American to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship, it was history making but he was also first of Asian decent to win that title. Seems like racism there 😔
その前に馬場が三回取ってますからね
フレアーが日本でのNWA戦でピンフォール負けをしたのは東京ドームでの藤波戦だけ
why no Woooooo?
観んがリッキーを応援。あと少しで王座交代か？と思わせるところでフレアーが返し技で防衛。正に千両役者
リッキーはカッコいいですね🎵今のWWEや新日本なんかに当時のまま、登場したとしても間違いなくトップ張れますね。むしろ、今の方が共感を呼ぶかも‼️フレアーも素晴らしい‼️
このリック・フレアとリッキー・ステイムボートはノース・カロライナやサウスカロライナでまだ駆け出しのころに一緒にタッグを組んでいた仲であることは往年のプロレスファンなら誰でも知っていることである。その時のプロモーターはジム・クロケットでその彼がフレアを凄く気にいっていたが、すぐ亡くなってしまってその息子のジム・クロケットJRが父親のあとをついでプロモーターとなり、NWA会長になる。フレアがNWA王者として王座を長く保持出来たのはこの二人の人間関係がある。NWAルールではリングアウト勝ちでは王座は移動しないルールを悪用してニューチャンピオンを出させないようにしたのだ。ただリッキーステイムボートやダステイーローデスはジム・クロケットJRとはいい関係を築いていたから王座の移動があったのだ。それ以外の選手に対しては認めなかった。ブロディーはジム・クロケットJRにめちゃくちゃ嫌われていてNWAのリングには上がることすらさせてもらえなかったほどである。そのNWAも潰れて、フレアもWWEのリングに上がってハルク・ホーガンとやりあうことになるが、NWAのベルトの価値を下げたのは明らかにフレアとこのジム・クロケットJRの二人であることに異議はない。
もうあなたプロレス本出してください。
@@dropkick743 そう言って頂いて光栄です。私も1980年代のプロレスファンで全日本プロレスのファンであり、当時は週間ゴングや週間プロレスを必ず見ていた。それでプロレスラーのインタビューとか見ていて、色々なアメリカのレスラーの哲学等読むのが好きだった！こういう話は筋金入りのプロレスファンでないと分からない？それも私自身1980年代のプロレスは詳しいが、それ以降の選手達は名前知っていても選手達の歴史はあまり知らない。例えばボブ・サップとかはあまり詳しくない。ブルーザーブロデイが亡くなってからプロレスはほとんど見ていない人間である。1988年までだ。
The territory system was slowly dying out when Vince McMahon Jr. Bought the WWF from his father in 1982 and started poaching all the talent from every territory. But Vince struggled with getting the southern fans, who supported the NWA, to switch over to his product. Flair was very over in the South and was the main reason the NWA stayed afloat as long as it did until Ted Turner purchased the company and renamed it to WCW. I loved the Crockett Jr. era of the 80s but he didn't have the infrastructure to compete with Vince. Flair always loved facing Steamboat. He's said on numerous occasions that Steamboat was one of his favorite opponents.
@@Sweeptheleg83 Thank you very much for answering my comment and telling me the details. I can speak and understand English. There were a lot of proーwrestler I like. My favorite are Bruiser Brody and JohnーStanley Hansen(Stan Hansen）、Giant Baba、Harley Race, etc.
Interesting
This no Jim Ross announcer!
Jim Ross was working for Mid-South Wrestling at that point in time, not All Japan Pro Wrestling, nor New Japan Pro Wrestling.
@@JuliusC1973lol...I think the OP was just saying that this announcer isn't as good as Jim Ross...
@@rodzor When it comes to Professional Wresting Play by Play, manny Fans have Him Ross on their Mount Rushmore of Professional Wrestling Announcers. I rank Jim Ross up there with The Legendary Gordon Solie and Lance Russell.
@@JuliusC1973 Same, I'd have Gorilla Monsoon on there too just for nostalgia. Also, the old Portland Wrestling announcer Frank Bonnema was very good.
11:40
Never fan of Steamboat
いかにも当時の高額で豪華外人パイプを持つ全日本らしいカード、そして現在のように決着はつかず、両者反則、両者〜何かに引っかかって単独リングアウト、3本勝負は後半早く処理。よしんば勝ち負けつくとしも、若干立ち位置上の選手優先にしつつ事前に入念に話し合って、互いの商品価値が下がらないような結末にするする。。当時目の肥えたファンならもうだいたい結末の想像がついていたはず。反則負けウェルカムのヒール格上レスラーなら、豪快な反則負けブックだから、アングル作りやすかったろうな。飽きさせないように、ベビーフェイスが逆に切れて凶器の奪い返し、我を忘れたレフェリーへの暴行など暴走反則のパターンもあったろうし。ベビーフェイス同士の動画のこの外人同士手のカードが1番気を使っただろう。また来てもらうために
Qa
リッキー•スティン•ボードだよ。
スティムボード…
スティン・ボードじゃないよ｡
切ってはいけない｡
リッキーは相手を倒す技がないよ、
サムネイルに、誤植があるのですが・・・
「リッキー・スチームボート」って誰ですか❓
“南海の黒豹”の異名をとった『リッキー・スティムボート』ならば、日系のテクニシャンとして、有名でしたので、知っていますが・・・“スチームボート”と云う名前には、一切の心当たりがありません。
”スチームボート”って・・・”蒸気船”？？？😅
@@黒澤智貴
名前のスペルがまんまですからね、実際に由来だったそうな。
正確にはスティ”ン”ボートですけどね。英語のbやpの前のmはンの発音なので。
リッキーはまだまだ顔じゃないな
フレアーの足下にも及ばない
Japanese style of pro wrestling is superior.
ギャラクシーエクスプレスはレイスが似合う
偉大な選手同士の対戦ありがとうございます。二人共、身長が10センチ高ければ、より偉大な選手になっていた。日本の藤波選手も同様。
小包固め😁
藤波辰爾の勝ち方によく似ています。