Jordan Peterson - The Truth About Auschwitz Prison Guards
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- Jordan Peterson explains the truth about the personalities of Auschwitz prison guards.
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I'm surprised that you even listen to the Zionist-controlled reprobate. You want the truth about World War 2? Watch the ten-part documentary series, "Europa: The Last Battle".
Not at all ,guy is so sick he makes pale of the people he's referring to, needs a funny mustache and thats it ready to go
No, I'm not surprised. Everyone, myself included, has an evil side. A cowardly side. Hard to own up to, sometimes.
I'm surprised that you even listen to the Zionist-controlled reprobate. You want the truth about World War 2? Watch the ten-part documentary series, "Europa: The Last Battle".
Everyone has a malevolent beast inside of them. How much it grows and how strong it becomes depends on how much you feed it.
Yeah let's go ahead and get this up at the start- "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire
@tedchristian2235.... And the one from Gandhi "Men easily surrender when evil is dressed in the garb of virtue". ..
Very, very true observation.
@ScienceNow-The national german socialists were real socialists.
Very true . . . and there are a LOT of absurdities around these days, too!
@ScienceNow- About?
I'm reminded of "Lord of the Flies" and how the power of the pack mentality can blur your reasoning.
The thing is, that movie was based upon a true story, but the original kids built a very functional community and did pretty well, all of them survived. Such shame the narrative was turned upside down. You could google the real story.
I think that was deemed "contagion" in one of my sociology books. "Anomie" is the loss of moral standards in crowds; whereas contagion is the spreading of behavior in a crowd. (If I'm remembering Brad Stewart's Sociology class correctly).
ask the government to govern you harder because a book told you that doing things your own way will lead you to your demise,,,, you do realized they have programed you to be a weak slave
It reminded me of george soros and his job under the occupation.
Also Woodstock 99
" Tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth "
as a psychologist he is definitely aware of that
tRumps motto
@@verdatajmorus4308 TDS is real.
Democrat party philosophy ...
And that's why Trumpers believe all his nonsense.
If the last few years have taught us anything it is that most people bow to peer pressure, scare tactics and fear of being an outsider.
Not all of us, thank God
@elizabeth. Could you bring an example?
I would not have believed it. In 2019 I'd still tell you that while that might be possible in a North Korea or some fringe African republic? Not in Canada or one like it. Not in Australia. Nope. Sorry but we are far far beyond it, we could 'see through and beyond' those things as insane 2nd world communist gimmicks. Yes, maybe Russia in 1950 but not even Russia post-Soviet era. Sorry, the vast majority are not falling for that old divide, outsider/insider, dirty/clean, come on now, nope.
What has rocked me to the very core wasn't some virus. It was the absolutely stunning realization I was very wrong about the world and my people and society and they would and did and did so enthusiastically. All you described, maybe even MOST of them did and some wanted it like a drug and got off on it like nothing else.
I've never been the same since. I thought I knew people, my people and I was very wrong.
@@relaxchampthe vax!
That's why so many people are attracted to Trumps ideology. It's scary how people will follow without checking the reality
Covid showed us all how true this is and how quickly people will turn on their neighbor.
No one is treading on you, sweetie.
@@freshfritz4649that's not true. The fact that you'd chime in, tells me you'd sell me out in a second.
During the pandemic, so many ignored the advice of medical professionals and experts and instead submitted to their authoritarian leader. Even to this day, people view a video like this and think that it supports their view of the world when it actually supports the opposite.
@@AnalysticalFoolThe medical professionals were all wrong too and straight up lied to people
Magas have a cute little acronym for themselves, just like the Nazis
Many years ago I went to work in a prison because I needed steady, decent paying work. I had the best of intentions. It didn't take long for me to become indifferent to the suffering of the inmates, joking about the worst things that went on there with my fellow officers. I often thought that I wasn't all that hard- just look at some of the officers who had been working there for a long time. Eventually I had worked there for a long time. One day I was laughing about a new inmate who had been attacked and raped. I realized that I'd become exactly what I'd swore I'd never let myself become- cynical, heartless, burned out, PTSD'd and hooked on adrenaline. I got other training and resigned, becoming a truck driver, the only job not requiring me to interact with others. I still have dreams about that place, even after all these years. Auschwitz guard? Sure! A lot of people would adapt within six months.
You are one of the few who get it. Half these comments are self-congratulatory about how they stood against the fray that one time. The point is to always suspect oneself, continuously evaluate your actions against an external, unchanging set of standards.
Thanks for your personal and very relevant story.
In addition to its relevance to this topic, it also revelatory of prison life today. I had assumed much better. I thought Shawshank no longer applied.
It’s like what’s happening in Israel right now. Israel has become the thing they despise the most, Nazis.
I was having some trouble understanding why these guards could be so brutal. I understand wanting to protect your country from a threat by capturing and executing prisoners but eliminating a threat doesn't mean being brutal to unarmed people, woman, children. Your explanation of your experience makes it a little bit easier to understand.
@@bummblebee77So you understand about the IDF?
We recently saw just how easily this happens during the Covid lockdowns in Melbourne, Australia. The way the Victorian police force so enthusiastically enforced the megalomaniac premier Dan Andrews lockdowns and curfews was slightly terrifying.
They turned from a respectable Police force to a pack of Brownshirts overnight. Totally stomping on peoples rights because the premier said so.
A great deal because they KNEW you were ALL DISARMED. Most Aussies turned in their guns years ago....game over.
@@oledahammer8393 Time for facts. Australians have more guns now than before the buy back. Australia decided that the average shooter didn't need semi-autos. We haven't had a mass shooting in the 30 years since.
Anyone who has worked enough miserable jobs with miserable people would not be surprised in the least at what ordinary people are capable of.
When I worked for coke the backroom employees at Wolly world acted like Nazis. Imagine throwing shrink wrap into the wrong garbage can. It was like i took a piss in their coffee pot . many power hungry low iq people (typical long term employee stuck in dead end job) make excellent Nazis. *Always question authority.
Dad worked in an abattoir and said that they were psychos.
One Aussie woman boiled up her husband Price' head.
Done that and it damn well destroyed my life, I walked away and fortunatley I escaped.
That’s what the Stanford-Prison experiment or the milgram experiment proved. The Ash experiment with the whole group pressure aspect is also really interesting to look into
Lord of the Flies is a classic book that shows how humanity can degenerate quickly. We still see this a great deal in certain cultures that we are not allowed to talk about where it is more common to tear each other down than to cooperate
I thought of that book too. The pack mentality seems to erode the issue of morality when you are blending with the pack. Makes me think that these people did what they did to others just so they wouldn’t be thrown in with those others. Fear and self preservation…
'Lord of the Flues' was fiction. There have been people in very similar situations in the real world who survived because they helped and supported each other.
@@grahamyates2490 Yes.... that is in fact eventually can, and has happened to humanity. Correct. While other places have lasted a lot longer in this fictional book situation and struggled a lot longer. The West is the best example of cooperation to build something great but then we have to deal with 14th century mentalities that settle here and want to tear it all down via tyrannical policies and also other cultures that are here that can't get it together, that also want to tear it down along with each other whenever they can
Shut up Piggy!
The true story of Lord of the flies is 6 or 7 kids stole a fishermans boat and were boat wrecked on an island for 15 months. First 6 months they had no fire. Eventually got fire and ate chickens and other animals. They were rescued after 15 months and there was no violence.
Bottom line is most people are sheep, lacking the courage to think for themselves.
Too simplistic an answer. Too much data show you're wrong.
@@warrenwinston9803 Okay. Educate me. Please cite a study or studies showing I'm wrong. Love to see it.
Exactly right and I'd take it a step further. "its eaiser to convince someone of a lie than tell them they've been lied too."
Real history is not pop culture history.
you're missing the point. Peterson is saying that you're capable of the same thing. Especially if you can't believe that you are, because in that case you have no defense against it.
@johncost. Most people are like you.
My Grandad was a prisoner of war to the Germans, he was in the Desert rats and his vehicle was blown up when it went over a mine, he was the only survivor, a German patrol found him, with his stomach blown out, nearly unconscious, the patrol rushed him straight back to one of their field hospitals, where he eventually made a recovery.
The soldier that found him regularly visited him while he was in hospital, to see how he was doing, and they became friends, my grandad didn't smoke, so would swap his cigarette rations with him for his chocolate rations, he gave my grandad a picture of himself with his wife and 2 kids, and said to him, to come and find him once this stupid war was all over, sadly he never saw him again after that, we believe he was executed when the camp was liberated, my Grandad kept that picture his whole life.
Once moved to the prisoner of war camp, he was put in a room, with lots of bunk beds, it was similar to the barracks they did they stayed in while doing basic training, they were kept comfortably at first, but eventually there was just not much food left to go around, one of the guards told him this was caused by the allies destroying vehicle convoys carrying food to the camps, and that they had even tried to air drop food, but their planes had been shot down.
Obviously the allies would not know what the vehicles were carrying, it could have been fuel or weapons, so had to destroy it.
He escaped from that camp, along with a few others, assisted by a German guard.
He was recaptured a few weeks later, and sent to a different camp.
My Grandad became friends with the prison warden at the next camp, the prison warden would invite my Grandad to visit him, and they would discuss books, politics and general chit chat, the warden had been to university in England, so would ask about Rowing teams, Rugby and other things that reminded him of the good times he had there.
He told my Grandad about all the German people that had tried to resist their government, and that had different political views, or just refused to fight, and how they and their whole families had been rounded up and possibly imprisoned or killed, it was fear of their own government forcing a lot of the German people to fight, he said if they had had the weapons and organisation to fight back from the start, it might have just been a German civil war, and never gone any further, but the government controlled the weapons, the newspapers and radio.
my Grandad eventually managed to escape that camp as well.
From everyone my Grandad spoke to, on both the Allied and Axis sides, he said that 99% of people just wanted the war to stop, wanted to go home to their families, didn't want to have to kill anyone, and didn't really care about any larger political situation, they just wanted jobs, and to be able to earn enough to raise a family in peace and comfort, and a cold beer at the end of a day.
The German guards and soldiers seemed to know very little about anything outside of what they needed to perform their jobs, and it was mostly the same with the allied soldiers, its always a need to know basis in the military.
Its the people in Governments that keep the biggest secrets, seem to love wars and committing atrocities, as to them its just numbers on a page, probably only a few thousand people really knew what was going on, and they wouldn't have had the power to stop it, there was actually a lot of German citizens involved in helping prisoners escape, helping downed airmen get back to their countries, fighting in resistance cells, leaking information to the allies, same with the French, their resistance fighters risked everything in an occupied country to help, while their government just carried on drinking wine and going to the theatre.
I learned at a very young age that people are generally decent and the same, regardless of what country they come from, while governments just use religion, gun control and media brainwashing to control through fear.
Thank-you for sharing, very interesting story.
This is true
The part about the government keeping you in the dark, I know to be the case. If they tell you anything, it's probably a lie. Just think, the government runs the schools.
Your Grandad was excellent at making friends and escaping prisons...
I commend the TRUTH being told in the long, long "comment" story above, about the commenter's "grand-dad" being a POW under German control during WW Two, illustrating with several, varied stories about his grandfather interacting with the "enemy yet NONenemy -behaving" German People, the TRUTH: that THE COMMON MAN OR WOMAN usually has a GOOD heart, and does NOT hate other human beings, unless the elite position seeking political power mongers LIE to them by censoring the media sources, and TEACH them war is good and desirable, and unless they're ALLOWED by these "common" and Good People to MESS with their GOD-GIVEN Right To Bear Arms to DEFEND their Beloved Country, Family and Freedom FROM fascists as well as from criminals... (which are the same thing technically in definition... mentally sociopaths who hate Morality and hate People loving People EVERYWHERE worldwide.)
After seeing how people acted during Covid, I completely understand.
And what about the media saying the biggest threat to our "democracy" is white males and white supremacy? If people say it enough, people will believe it.
Do not downplay holocaust
@@radi2173But how many all over the world took the poison jab ?????
@@radi2173 I'm not. I mean every word.
@@mr.raslyon6626 yes you do...no i don't , yes you do..childisch.
During my student years one of my subjects were Psychology. This was around 32 years ago. Part of the curriculum was statistics. One day my lecturer rationalized that 2 plus 2 equals 6. ( I can't remeber exactly the equation but it was a very basic equation) I stood up and disagree but in a very hysterical way. I completely overacted. The whole class laughed at me and she respond by asking every one in the class to raise their hands if they agree with me. Nobody did. Then she asked everyone in the class to raise their hands if her calculation was correct. Unanimously every single person raised their hands. She then discussed how group pressures can lead to atrocities like the holocaust. She said I was the first student that stood up and disagreed . I come from an abusive childhood and just got tired of being bullied. If you are used to humiliation, it doesn't faze you anymore. People stand up when they have nothing more left to loose.
@ScienceNow- Africa Proverb: Until the Lion learn to speak the hunter will tell the story. Have you been to Auschwich? You can still smell decay after so many years. Write your own book, tell your side of the story but to call someone a liar without justifying it... is what I would call being a coward.
@ScienceNow-you repeat the same accusation, yet offer no proof. Clearly, your agenda is to promote denial of the Holocaust.
Imagine in Orwell's 1984 they had to torture Winston Smith before he believed that 2 plus 2 makes 5. How easy in reality it seems to be that people will accept absurdities and lies as true.
@ScienceNow- What truth would you have us know, and what is Peterson lying about? Are you saying that 2 plus 2 really does equal 6?
@@M_Pross ScienceNow is just a BS lying troll. Would not surprise me if it turned out to be just a machine-generated bot.
Long ago a well know pastor Charles Swindoll said “there is nothing anyone of us aren’t capable of doing given the right circumstances”. Like the Bible says, the heart of man is desperately wicked, who can understand it?
"The natural man is am enemy to God...unless he yields to the enticing of the spirit." Mosiah 3:19, The Book of Mormon
The Bible - that is desperatley wicked and inunderstandable - turn the other cheek - an eye for an eye - make your mind up?
@@DavidHarvey-po9lethe eye for an eye was in regards to justice. Like if someone had committed a crime, their punishment had to fit the crime- not harsher than what they did, not less than what they did.
When you come to know the Lord as your personal savior your spirit is aligned with God's, spirit. You will never be able to do those things. Never.
Well know?
“ the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked , who can know it “ Jeremiah 17:9
In Australia between 2019 to 2023 , it showed just who would have marched people off to the trains and who would have stood their ground .
It was a pity to see how many would have.
There were COVID detainment camps there, right? People who had it abducted and forced to live in a prison while they were contagious?
They were put in hotels etc.But $100s of millions were spent to build 'camps' to house the contaminated,though they weren't used.@@AB-ez4rm
@@AB-ez4rm Er, no. Where did you hear that?
The people Germany put on trains were pushing communism and gender ideology. Do any amount of research into why everybody hates the J's..
@@ianboyle1026 look up Well camp Queensland.
Always, be very careful of mindlessly following a crowd.
Or this guy.
Absolutely. That is one of the biggest problems. It can convert someone from good to evil.
You just described the Trump party
@@UncleCaptainMidnight Actually, leftists and the woke crowd and DEI fascists.
and we have that so strongly in the current democratic party. Very dangerous.
Ahhh yes. The atrocity that is illegal to question in over a dozen countries.
a pie told once is a pie...a pie told 1ooo thymes becomes the T
@@WillyEckaslike Check the facts and don't rely on big pharma.
Learned a lot during covid about good people just following orders... I'll never forget a policeman screaming at me to go back in my home because it was lockdown. I had stepped out to buy bread, I was hungry.... Then he gave me a fine because I wasn't wearing a mask and he told me I was part of the problem because people like me couldn't follow simple instructions...
I hope you just threw the ticket away.
@@wlonsdale1 I kept it for a while just to show others what was happening but I never paid it
Civilization makes us believe that we aren’t capable of doing horrible things, but we are humans and we can be shockingly inhuman.
Shockingly human is more accurate.
Just an animal with a lap top..
Humans are a flawed species. We haven't cracked living in harmony with the planet and never will. Violence greed and power is all we have to offer the universe. Look at satellite pictures and our cities and towns look like a dark stain an infection in the dwindling sea of green . We're a virus that is so smart that its stupid.
The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either - but right through every human heart - - and through all human hearts. Inside us it oscillates with the years. And even in the hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
E.g..Gaza. The truth is that atrocities are atrocities, no matter by whom they are committed. Humans have lost that perspective. It should NEVER be one side or another. This disconnect and separatism will be the end of us all....very soon.
Remember the college prison guard/inmate experiment that went surprisingly awry.
unwitting participants who were the subjects themselves, and in fact the Unabomber, Ted Kazinsky was subjected to this.
The Milgram experiment also.
The experiment you talk about was the Stanford prison experiment
There was another where the subject thought they were assisting with an experiment on negative reinforcement. They were to administer shocks to subject (who were really in on the experiment) when they FSS wrong answers to questions, as directed by the examiners. They weren't actually shocking the person being questioned, but that person would act like they were. They willingly administered levels that would have been life threatening when directed.
@@1206anton and the prison experiment was like Milgram 2.0, also conducted at Stanford. Both are considered to be unethical to conduct by today's standards but they taught us a lot about our psychology.
There was another one on UK television too. The guards were supposed to promote one of the prisoners to guard and instead of picking the best most able guy they picked a weak guy who wouldn’t rock the boat. Well big able guy leads a prison revolt. This was a fucking TV show!
"Lies are the pathway to hell." - Thank you Jordan Peterson.
During the Covid time I understood that my neighbour could put me in a train....
Me too, but my trust was in God, not man
I see it with this next election.
Exactly-citizens tend to believe their governments and do as they are told.
Evil flourishes when good people do nothing
You mean those who haven't been compromised threatened or otherwise manipulated into going from good to bad? Good people in many instances tend to be relevant terms I think. "God" said mankind is basically evil and in need of a savior as opposed to the common popular mankind is basically good malarkey.
Well then they aren't good people though
Do nothing AND go along with it. On an every day scale, have you ever noticed, a bully never gets away with what they do by themselves, they always have at least one or two people that notice, do nothing AND then go along with it. The bully wouldn't last long if this didn't happen, but it always does. That's what's terrifying, and damaging.
In the absence of good, evil is manifested.
@@jake78787an apple a day gathers no moss !!
‘Lies are the pave way to hell’ - 3:44
‘Never accept the lie’ - Solzhenitsyn.
The whole world has been SOLD A LIE and sadly 99.9% have bought it.
The MOST LIED ABOUT PEOPLE IN HISTORY = HITLER and the (so called), NAZIS.
@ScienceNow-troll alert 🔔
I can’t make you drink the water I give you.- your mom.
It’s not the lies..it’s good intentions. He’s making it up as he goes as usual.
@ScienceNow- You don't know which lie OP was talking about.
Wonder why nobody talks about theatre music instruments and grand piano that was accessible to the prisoners
I would suggest people read up on David Irving’s books and read Ernst Zundel’s videos.
The road to hell is also paved with silence and quiet compliance.
Don't be silent. Google holocaust handbooks. Plenty of books to inform the real truth. The lectures on the holocaust one is a free PDF download.
Jesus bore the cross on which he was crucified. Silent compliance?
@@stevenwhitehead4015 gaslight. Who said every single instance of silence ever?
My father told who fought in two wars told me you never know how you are going to react in an extreme situation until you are in it. I always remembered that and always pray to Jesus he will give me the grace to do what is right no matter the circumstances or consequences.
Amen.
Oh, so when you have not the will, it is Jesus fault for not giving it to you. How lame.
@@borisbrosowski6630 God's grace is a free and undeserving gift. Grace can give people the ability to go beyond their natural abilities or understanding. The lack of will, to do what right, is always the fault of man because God is perfect.
Fifty years ago when I was 19 and living in Belgium I visited a camp where people were assembled for transport to Auschwitz. Walking away my first thought was that anyone and any nation could do the same thing, and I think that was a result of my time as a street boy, when I saw the coincidence of good and evil in all people. I think world events fifty years later show that the lesson has still to be learned.
Fifty years ago was 1974
Just look at Israel. Look what do Palis.
Just look at Israel and what do to Palis
@@leloelela That's how you know that comment was BULLSHIT.
Much of the history that we've been told about WW2, especially about the Nazis was not true. I would recommend reading "The Bad War by Mike King" or "The Myth of German Villainy by Benton Bradley". Many of the prisoners from the concentration camps were killed because of the Allies. The Allies bombed the infrastructure, roads, railroads which made it impossible to get supplies, food and medical supplies to the camps which cause the outbreak of Typhus and caused starvation. We don't hear these things because the Allies are supposed to be the good guys. We also never hear about the fire bombings that the Americans and British did to the towns of Germany to cook and kill the German women, children, old people and even immigrants trying to get away from the war zones because they had so much hate for Germany and wanted to kill every German living - this was one of the war crimes committed but swept under the rug.... The history that we've been taught isn't the truth but then again, do we really expect to be told the truth from the government and military....?
Have you ever seen the films where the poor, poor Germans are taken on forced tours of some of the recently liberated camps? I have, and have noted there were no starving, diseased ridden Germans walking through those camps. So food was getting into Germany somehow. Regarding the bombings .... you folks were sure happy when it was dished out, but very whiny when it came back to bite you.
@@bestcomsystems4458 The "stocks" of food were apparently getting to many people .... just so happens those concentration camp prisoners weren't among them. That's a little different than the Allies were responsible because they bombed roads. Here's another helpful hint ... maybe Germans shouldn't have imprisoned them in the first place. I'm sure some people didn't like the bombings ... I would guess they stopped complaining about after what Germany had done to occupied Europe came to light.
@@Vydio Perhaps true, but the prisoners died primarily due to the allies' bombing and their support for the communists.
@@Vydio You know nothing. Everything Germany did was in response to allied actions.
Did you know that in 1933 already "Judea Declares War on Germany"? Perhps that had a little to do with the Germans' dislike of Jews?
@@BasementEngineer No, they died because Germans imprisoned them. Even when it was obvious they were going to lose they kept on with killing.
My father was shot down over Germany and was injured and subsequently treated in a German hospital during WW2. His treatment was far better than anyone could imagine. I'm sure that the fact that he was a Canadian Flight officer had a bearing, but even the most hardened German soldiers who were in that same hospital showed my father care and compassion.
Was your father a jrw?
Air POW's were treated better than everyone else.
@@Bulvan123 It’s more that both sides conducted themselves fairly well with each other’s POWs on the Western Front. Definitely not the case on the Eastern Front. There were some notable exceptions, of course, but both sides did not want an escalating series of reprisals against POWs.
@@Bulvan123 Responsibilty of the Luftwaffee, NOT the SS. (the Great Escape_.
I've heard similar stories from my friend's grandfather who was in the war from beginning to end. I dare not repeat any of them here because most people wouldn't believe me if I did. It's even hard to wrap my head around some of them. I'm referring to more frontline stuff. There was more compassion than what is historically talked about. It's odd considering the situation.
From the 1974 movie, Chinatown.
Noah Cross: “You see, Mr. Gittes, most people never have to face the fact that at the right time and right place, they’re capable of anything.”
I remember that line...by the way Chinatown is a masterpiece
Ethics Professor here…I would add one thing to what Jordan said. In study after study the single greatest factor in getting ordinary people to commit atrocities is directly tied to the influence of the leader and our emotional and neurological hard wiring to want to follow and obey authority. In the book Ordinary Men, the Police officers that elected to go to Poland did so largely out of their desire to follow the chain of command and our innate need to belong to systems lead by a leader. The famous and disturbing social psychology experiment created by Stanley Milgram also known as the “THe Milgram Experiment” brilliantly laid out the length ordinary men and women will go to obey authority. The Milgram Experiment( this experiment as been done over and over again with the same results) showed that over 50 percent of us will give enough electric shock to kill someone because a guy in white lab coat( representing authority) tells us to do so…
And to add to this, the Stanford Prison Experiment highlights how easy it is for an authoritarian group to abuse their power and position ,as well as have no qualms dehumanising their fellow man
Rubbish.
@@BasementEngineer Go, get some education.
@@johnno8973 Why not take your own advice?
Anyone who still believes anything from the mass media or court historians (those paid to propagate the politically correct narrative) need to have their heads examined.
Didn't COVID teach you anything? Do you really believe that it was any better in the past?
As a kid born in the mid 80s I always felt like ww2 was ancient history, but I am now approaching 40 years old. Now that I am old enough to properly gauge how long 40 years is, It blows my mind to know that ww2 was happening just 40 years before I was born!
wanna really get freaked out, check out hitlers speeches converted to English with AI
I am the same age and literally had this thought just the other day!
I think the past 4 years showed us this.
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@ScienceNow- and it can’t be spoken about or you’re an antisemi-…….. oh… I’m not allowed to say that out loud either?…. Hmmm, I wonder if that is why Jordan never takes it easy on anyone but the Jews.
Spot on.. my thoughts exactly. Look how quick the Unvaccinated were vilified and threatened. And society went right along with it
@ScienceNow- joedolph
Agreed
Problem is the winners write the history.
and people vomit up ww2 propaganda still to this day
People always talk about psychopaths but I think what's more terrifying is how so called empaths can be trained to do almost anything.
Loners, leaders, followers. Any of them can make you just as dead as the other.
Clearly they arent an empath.....
Europa: The Last Battle
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Twists to gas chamber accounts in WWII Germany and Austria: showers, delousing, US & Soviet built.
Scripture and Tradition -- Fr JM
That does make a lot very clear! Not allowed overhere
typhis is a war crime
Don't have to tell me. We saw that mentality of 'ordinary men' during the recent world flu. Many people were more than willing to have a segment of society shunned, shamed and worse. All for a perceived 'good of everyone' they were told and gladly went along with. Many of those would have gladly taken it further given state approval.
When he said that you didn't want to leave the dirty work to others, it occurred to me that it only works strangely if you don't mess with the majority.
I've been convinced for some time that most people just don't like doing the right thing.
They leave that to others, while they are only too happy to beat them around to prevent them from becoming so many that a majority is formed which in turn forces them to participate.
In short, good or evil, it's always about being on the side of the majority and evil is simple easyer.
Anyone else ever notice how
All compulsory state mandates that Claim justification for their atrocities “For The public good”
invariably fail to include 100% of the public.
Technically,
The atrocities invariably destroy the rights as well as the good & often the health & even the lives of that percent of “the public” not included😏
Well stated. Many times I was prepared for rockem-sockem robots as we refused all of "The protective measures". Especially those fake vaccines. Lord knows what that will result in long term.
There is, and was, data to support vaccinations and masks. You are stretching things a bit
ife was on medical field 35 years. Masking does nothing to prevent viral spread. And as for that " vaccine:- Get a Smallpox vax and you don't get Smallpox. Get a Polio vax and no Polio. Get a Covid vax and several boosters and you still get and spread Covid. Whatever that was, it's not a vaccine.
I get it. It’s groupthink. Authorities tell you what to do, everyone is doing it. Always think for yourself.
Jordan gives softball interviews to war criminals because his boss tells him to. My guess is he would have enjoyed his prison guard job.
Just like the pandemic times, groupthink author times tell you what to do, mask on, vaccin ate, stay at home
bet you can't when it comes to this subject
Nope. Its not 'just' groupthink. Prison gaurds and many police get a very individualuzed authority complex that has zero to do with 'group think'. They will allow rapes or participate or frame individuals just to see what happens. Peterson is speaking on the avg citizen here....he continues to speak of the ingerintly sadistic agents of govt in other interveiws
Mass Formation Psychosis
I read that book. I wouldn't call those guys "ordinary people" though. They were already police when they were recruited for the task, a profession which attracts more than its share of people with APD personalities, power-worshippers, and bullies.
Jordan Petersen is not only an out of the box thinker, but damn good at passing along his thoughts.
Extremely sharp, extremely outspoken!
Respect for this guy!
fab: When Petersen pontificates about subjects he knows nothing about, he merely perpetrates war propaganda and lies.
a recent example is the coercion of people to take the vaccine failing to do so led to the majority despising the unvaxed no travel etc. so yes Peterson is right.
i got the vax willingly; never gave a shit if anyone else did or didn't. it's their choice. but i'll tell you something: my dad was 93 when he got covid. if he hadn't been vaxxed, he probably would not be here now. you shouldn't be forced to get it, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't get it. telling people not to get vaxxed is just as wrong and stupid as demanding they get vaxxed. both sides were and are wrong.
But bear in mind that thousands if not millions of brave people around the world said no to the jab regardless of of job loss, discrimination etc
@@noty410 Brave? Or scared of a little needle? 🤔
@@noty410 vaccines are basic medicine. It would be like being afraid of pills or what's in your water.
If the government was out to get you or they would.
Just look how people acted during the pandemic. Easily turned against others.
Covid Knot Z's
Have to agree, it was awful, because we refused the vaccine we found it whomoir fitness really were......
And just how people could be brainwashed.....
Trump imported Covid 19 to America and killed 1.2 million Americans while telling jokes about it
sheep easily herded by wolves
What the Japanese did to the Chinese at the same time made the Holocaust look like a playground slap-fight.
or the bolsheviks to the russians. and the same group that made up the bolsheviks were trying to do the same thing in Germany. Patton said we fought the wrong enemy, and today, we are facing those consequences.
There are still people who want to pity the Japanese because they got nuked.
I met a Jewish man that as a child he survived the holocaust. I asked him, "how could it happen?" He said, "A little bit at a time'. Time had passed and he was so terrified in life to the point of paranoia. Now I understand.
"He said, "A little bit at a time'." ----history always repeats but this time it's in the homeland -- do you see it or are you one of the hoodwinked and in denial?
Remember back in school how nearly all other kids were either bullies, popular narcissists, stooges to the popular narcissists who would happily jump on a bandwagon to pick on someone the popular person picked on first, and sneaky jerks who would cheat or steal if they thought they could get away with it?
They didn't grow out of that behavior, they just learned that rules/laws make it not worth doing. But put them in a scenario where they don't think the rules/law will stop them, and boom, they're just like they were as kids.
It's why I think it's actually very important that religions convince people that an omniscient god is going to punish them if they misbehave. Because too many people are not ethical enough to police themselves when nobody is watching.
That’s how a moral compass works. You should behave the same way whether someone is watching or not.
@@tastx3142 yes you should, but so many people DONT
Well said 👏
When you describe these school like behaviours for some reason I think of Donald Trump…
I agree with you. As I understand it the good Lord made our physical world with laws of nature to show us that the same laws exist in the spiritual world. For example take the physical law of entropy which states that energy is required to keep a system ordered. The law of spiritual entropy is the same and states that our natural tendency is to decay morally unless energy is injected. Therefore the role of each generation is to inject a moral code into their children through lessons, laws and traditions in order to fight that entropy. Religion plays an important role in this - to provide traditions such as giving thanks before eating (which can fight eating disorders) and laws such as though shalt not murder (which helps us say no to murder despite the sales pitch) and lessons such as deception leads to temptation which leads to purgatory (which helps us stay awake to lies). As you said God's judgement is an energy that keeps people on the straight and narrow, but in my opinion so is God's love. Mind you, that is only available if a person believes in God.
The really sad part is that it will happen again, we've learned nothing from history except to be more cruel.
The torture of prisoners that took place at Guantanamo Bay and possibly still is occurring somewhere (Israel?) is evidence that nothing has been learned.
Yes it’s happening in Gaza
@@10gimp39💯 %
@@10gimp39 open your eyes; it happened on October 7.
Nope, cuz a "group" didn't learn from history..
I don’t think it’s difficult to understand that if you are told to do a job or starve or fear a similar fate, you would get on with it. Easy for anyone sitting in a safe place to say no way.
My grandfather was in the 101st Airborne and liberated several camps. The part that bothered him was that all the locals who tried to play innocent, but provided the soldiers with food, bread, beer, did their laundry and so on. They provided all kinds of support for the camps, setting up cottage industries around the camps needs, but thought they were not a part of it.
What country gave them VISA /
Green card to enter before WW2… Yes no one. Secret was no secret .. war industry was destroyed. Death machine= camp’s was left alone to do their business until the end
Look at the conduct of the Victorian police during covid. I never thought I would see such a thing in my country in my lifetime.
And the mass compliance. As a school teacher, I lost my job for refusing the injection. I teach my students to think critically and not just believe something because someone in authority says it.
@@user-tu9hx9om5b You’re one of the good teachers that we actually need teaching our children so that’s a damn shame. And what find the most asinine and ridiculous is how they told everyone you have to take this shot. Or you’ll be fired and ostracized ect. BUT even if you take this experimental drug that we are basically forcing you to take and you get sick or get some kind of terrible disease YOU CAN’T HOLD US LIABLE. Unf#%kin believe right smh.
The Holocaust evidence is as strong as the 40 beheaded babies evidence. That is to say it doesn't exist.
While I do agree that mass compliance in that case was concerning and I did not like it, it is also quite concerning to me that CERTAIN people care so much about whether they were forced to take a shot tested by scientific community, in arm or not, but absolutely not concerned with calling for example all immigrants scum and wanting to “clean” the cities because of white replacement or something. Oftentimes these are the same people.
And yes, I took these 3 shots willingly, among the first to do, because I trust the scientific community and my government at least in such a matter. And I think I would not be shooting Jews, because when war in Ukraine started - I live in Eastern Europe - all the right wing anti injection crowd rose up to call that we should punish all Russians, all Russians are scum etc. and even government started to approve strange decisions in that regard, and… I was ok with shots, I am not ok with people telling that all Russians are dirt and should be punished.
They didn't torture or kill anybody!
Here in Canada, no one talks about the past four years. Everyone want to forget what they turned into.
Not so much what they turned into it's who they really are and for a while never had to hide it... they are still here..
It's funny how no one wants to talk about it😮
lol the line up with qr codes to get in a strip bar told me all I needed to know
taking back our country is long over due.
too many librals in Can
During covid, I dared myself to enter a Walmart without a mask. I got my groceries, encountered a low-life who tried to condemn me for not wearing a mask, moved on to the shampoo aisle and was confronted by a teen worker demanding me to wear a mask he was providing. I refused. He called the cops. A female cop come while I was checking out and harassed me the entire time, threatening me, demanding a wear a mask, etc. I refused and continued on till I was finished checking out. Cop went on her way. What disturbed me the most was how insulted I would have been if I were the female cop who was told to go out there and demand a 70 year old women wear a mask. Really! I would have gone back to told my boss to never insult me again by sending me out there to threaten and harass a 70 year old women for not wearing a mask. It's a shame that she felt honor in being made a fool up.
Wearing a mask in a store isn’t very hard to do, not doing so doesn’t make you a victim, it makes you a selfish idiot
So you harassed a min wage kid following his store policy. And before you "just following orders" me, he was asking you to do something that would cause harm neither to you nor to anyone else. You also worried him for his health since he has ro work with the public all day and no one then knew what to expect. Congrats. Bravo. You're a true hero.
And that whole story in which you absurdly seem to see yourself as some kind of hero, despite causing unnecessary inconvenience and wasting everybody's time, could have been avoided if you even considered being less selfish and just wore the f*cking mask for 2 minutes.
@@MakeArtAndShutUptypical comment from a sheep
Since 1945, many countries in Africa, Latin America, Eastern Europe have done exactly this and nobody ever talks about it
My church went down this path in 2020 - it has made me profoundly sad. I am a devout Christian and I loved going to church. I really have struggled to understand how so many of them could just become so hateful - especially the pastors. One pastor resisted and has been marginalized. I had to leave the church.
Count yourself lucky you're not a muslim. They are a cult that acts as one. Had you been a muslim and shown you were questioning the cult, you would likely be dead or in a protection program just like my neighbours daughter who's father attempted to kill her.
Wow I’m sorry you had that experience. Can you expand on this? I’m also a Christian and I am interested in learning about what happened.
Ditto. “Do not neglect the gathering together of the saints” was ignored out of fear. Find the church folk who are true followers. They will encourage you. They may not be in large groups but here and there. Seek them out. The Holy Spirit will identify them.
At my daughter's Christian school the wonderful, much loved principal was forced to resign over the mandate. Worse still they fired the chaplain with no support to either of them. Then the head of the churches education dept released an email saying
'If Jesus was here he would have gotten the jab.'
Disgusting.
@@brucethompson7214 Fear encourages people to deny Christ pretty quickly.
Some of the "guards" were prisoners of the camps. And they became just as brutal as the real guards.
@ScienceNow- Look up "Kapos" in the Holocaust. This took me 5 minutes. Maybe an apology to user-og2wt3le4j is warranted...
The German concentration camps depended on the cooperation of trustee inmates who supervised the prisoners. Known as Kapos, these trustees carried out the will of the Nazi camp commandants and guards, and were often as brutal as their SS counterparts. Some of these Kapos were Jewish, and even they inflicted harsh treatment on their fellow prisoners.
Kapos were rewarded for their work. They were granted privileges. They received better food, clothing and housing. Wearing a distinct armband displaying their status, they were spared hard labour and harsh treatment. They enjoyed better hygienic conditions, which in turn offered a layer of protection against rampant diseases. Kapos had easier access to flourishing black-market activities and corrupt dealings. Most importantly, power and privileges promised a chance of survival, provided they fulfilled the expectations of their SS masters.
Many Kapos very quickly gained the reputation of brutal supervisors, beating, denouncing and even killing fellow inmates. Physical and sexual abuse were commonplace. Needless to say, this was not true of all Kapos. Some used their positions to support and protect, even to save the lives of others. If they were caught doing this or unable to perform their duties, they were dismissed, punished and henceforth treated as ordinary prisoners.
@ScienceNow-Have you. His comment is 100% factual. Human beings will do evil to live another day. Funny how Peterson leaves out the greater injustice to paint his own narrative.
@ScienceNow-yes there is ample evidence of the Trawnikis, for example, operating in the East and generally consisting of Soviet POWs (such as Ukrainian). But from your uninformed comments, I suspect you are one of those who deny that the Holocaust happened.
@ScienceNow-science now somehow suggests you have done the research? If you have then you know it’s true,
Trawnikis in the east were particularly brutal.
I believe that one of the main reasons we deny the humanity of such people is to deny that we are capable of evil.
My grandfather also died in Auschwitz. Was drunk and fell from the watchtower
Was he KaPo?
I had really bad anxiety in my twenties and early thirties and I went to a psychiatrist for help. We talked about many different things and he told me once that he had patients some of whom were well known people whose names I would recognize who did the most horrendous things to others for various reasons. To get ahead in a company, to get even with someone who they wanted to hurt.
Cry a river bottom boy
Oh I can believe that having spent 30 years in the big corporate world. Aggressive bullies do well.
Covid showed us all that people can be easily vilified... without reason....
Like Trudeau - Biden and the health systems------beware its starting right here..
Equating the Holocaust to the measures used worldwide to combat a flu epidemic. Really? Really?
Covid showed us that people can easily be persuaded to ignore fact and accept conspiracies. Just like the 30s.
"Without"
Yeah, right. Talk about rewriting history. ;)
@@Duron13 Did you get upset with people who didn't do what they were told?
"As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
- Justice William O. Douglas
That was one of the best talks from Jordan Peterson I've ever seen. His final point is so thought-provoking.
We saw this same thing during the covid pandemic experiment. Never forget we are dealing with the same evil, authoritarian mindset today. WEF, anyone?
We certainly saw the same thing during the pandemic. Thousands of ill educated and ignorant people being persuaded that a global health emergency was a conspiracy to control their lives. I'll never forget that the same evil, authoritarian mindset chose to manipulate those people for its own political agenda.
Did they stop the "get your booster!" pushes before or after people started having heart attacks en masse? Don't hear too much about it today...
This man will question everything BUT the GOLDEN NARRATIVE.
Yeah.
Interesting.. an internet search only turns up Creative Writing seminars and tools etc.
Probably some loser antisemitic dog whistle
No money in that for him !!
History will record him as nothing but a spineless coward
The problem with this is that police officers already have an over representation of people who enjoy authority or power over someone.
They ironic part here is that even though the majority of the comments support what Peterson is saying, most still see themselves as incapable of being co-opted and treating others in absolutely horrendous ways. It's far less about the battle we wage within our communities and far more about the battle we wage within ourselves. It's uncomfortable for us to contemplate how "good" people do bad things and that "bad" people do good things.
I could never deliberately kill someone for no reason. Now if I feel gravely wronged or trespassed against by them I could. Most people can when they believe it's justified. Just look at how many Israelis feel no empathy at all even for the Palestinian 3 year olds at present.
Has anyone seen the Stanford experiment film where they took students and divided them up into prisoners and guards. The student guards were willing to do terrible things to fellow student prisoners.
That wasn't a real experiment. The kids knew they were playacting.
There is a German film ' Da Experiment ' which was based on a true experiment carried out at a German University which got completely out of hand....Adrien Brody starred in an American re-make.....The german film is very good and disturbing!
@@Zzyzzyx Well the same thing happens in real life, same mechanisms. Just look at what happens in politics, if the politicians in the past could see what they are doing now they would call them extreme maniacs. Since the leftists are in charge almost everywhere this is the new normal. Same thing happens in every extreme society.
They had to stop the experiment because of abuse.
The guards quickly enjoyed the power and cruelty, just because they could.
😂😆😆😝😝😆 that was a movie! Oh my, smh…
Where can I find the full version of this interview?
This is evident by the way Police in Australia and New Zealand behaved during the COVID lockdowns. These are the same people who were guards and enjoyed their work in Auschwitz.
worse after the German invasion of France all the police lined up for their old jobs back
My parents emigrated to Canada from Germany in 1954. I was 3 at the time and always wondered how Hitler could have recruited so many people and turn them into monsters. The Evolution of the Russian people in the Ukraine conflict has answered all my questions. My mother’s first husband was a Polish spy and shot in the town square. The average German put on blinders to what was happening and the opportunists became monsters. Had they had the technology we have now, my mother and all her family would have been eliminated. What is happening now is terrifying for the future. Thank you sooooo much for helping to bring an understanding and awareness that hopefully will turn the tide. It is all about understanding people.
There are interesting interviews with Russian POWs. (Zolkin channel). The POWs usually have a good explanation why did they come to Ukraina to kill people. Obviously, most of them don't admit that they are killing for money or killing at all. "It wasn't me", they say often, "I didn't know". Strange times.
Can you expand a little on your comment about the evolution of theRussian people for me please. It’s a bit ambiguous.
Most of the camp guards in Auschwitz were Ukrainians, and the Ukrainians are still very fond of Neo Nazism today, with many specifically neo nazi units in their forces.
Ukraine committed genocide against ethnic Russians in the Donbass. Nazis in Ukraine were never brought to justice because the CIA needed said nazis to fight the soviets
That sounds like utter nonsense,not having it
I was conscripted when I was young. The standard method of turning a boy into a soldier is strip you of personal identity, get you really angry at your abuse, and then point the finger of blame on the 'enemy', then prop up your broken ego with a group identity and a common cause/enemy. Basic psychology works when your under emotional assault and are given tribal identity. Group think is brutal.
SO TRUE! That is why they conscript the youth i.e., their codes of morals and ethics are still not engrained thus they are malleable vs. grown men.
One of our gifts/curses as humans is our ability to quickly adapt to new situations.
That's terrifying after seeing what these students have been up to lately around the world.
They are literally under Mind Control.
Once you start looking at everything from the perspective of Mind Control, everything starts to make sense...
The left at it's finest again.
Yeah, look how many are just going along with the crowd and not even realizing or caring about what they’re protesting.
Remember reading an analysis some years ago about a personally profile of the 60s radical leaders. Turns out many were narcissists without any real concern of what they’re protesting
It was students who helped lead the revolution in communist China. They quickly turned on their parents and teachers...especially the teachers. Later they would find out that they themselves were just as expendable.
"By any means necessary."
A quote from Wikipedia about the Auschwitz concentration camp to remind Jordan Peterson that research matters in studying atrocities: The initial transport of political detainees to Auschwitz consisted almost solely of Poles (for whom the camp was initially established). For the first two years, the majority of inmates were Polish.
@mireklalas
Wikipedia isn't a reputable source.
@@cantstop-wontstop2138 The facts matter. If they are wrong, correct them. If not, don't hide behind vague generalities. It is a fact that for the first two years of WW2 Auschwitz held mostly Polish prisoners.
@@mireklalas
When yur done babbling- Wikipedia IS NOT a reputable source for information.
Side note-
Just becuz they were Polish- doesn't mean they weren't also jews. Polish is a geographic distinction.
@@cantstop-wontstop2138 Hello, "yur becuz', the master of clarity and the English language: to people like you, arguments are based on tricks, not facts. If Wikipedia says that WW2 started in 1939 and you don't like it, you will attack Wikipedia's reputation instead of correcting the facts. If you want historical insight into the first prisoners of Auschwitz (Polish priests, intellectuals, and soldiers), then consult reputable sources like Timothy Snyder's 'Bloodlands' or any other fact-based source. I quoted Wikipedia as a shortcut, and you used it for bad logic and ad hominem attacks. How predictable.
Wikipedia is the most corrupt source for information when there is some sort of politics involved.
Humanity's tendency to forget the horrors of war is matched only by our blindness to the signs of its impending return.
Other than the amazing content…
I need that jacket ..OMG … what brand and where did you get it from jordan?
Members of my current family are EXACTLY who you are talking about. And they did it to me.
Read ordinary men. Should be mandotory read in high school.
I agree.
It is too advanced for high school students.
They should read Anne Frank instead or perhaps the autobiography of Rudolph Hoess (Commandant of Auschwitz) or Gitta Serney's book on Franz Stangl ( Commandant of Treblinka).
The Nazis didn't invade Poland first, they invaded Germany first... Just look at the way people dobbed in their neighbors if they had a gathering during covid.
You are so right, I remember when I told a friend during the start of the vaccines rollout that I wasn't taking it he told me that I should not receive medical treatment from the NHS.
That's how easily the government propaganda campaign turned neighbour against neighbour and destroyed friendships.
@ScienceNow- You need to specify which assertion you're talking about. I can't find any untruths in the comment.
@@boli4203- We count which countries are attacked first now then the government does a heel turn
Exactly!!!!
That’s about as clear as mud. Bad grammar combined with an uncommon word like “dobbed” then mixed with an anachronism? C’mon!
Please, somebody would have the link for the full interview?
Anybody know where i can find this complete interview?
We all wore masks for two years for apparently no reason.
I didn't. I got called all sorts. Ignored it all.
Correction: Some of us wore masks for the benefit of society - some of us did not. Either way it has no relevance to this video.
@@TheDrexelUK course it does. It shows how group think can quickly become over powering. Masks were a symptom of the madness that we lived through.
You wore a mask? What a horrible atrocity you've endured.
@@freshfritz4649 I am commenting on how a society can be brainwashed very easily by clever propaganda.
which is why a leader should NEVER lie. if you notice your leader is a liar, get away from him/her.
And thus criteria applies to Trump, a pathological liar.
@@Wilhuf1oh boy if that's the only one you noticed
@@PALACIO254 Only one? Trumps made THOUSANDS of lies.
@@Wilhuf1commie lefties lie
This criteria also applies to Justin Trudeau.
Yes, I saw it with the cops during the covid lockdown and when mask wearing was compulsory. I saw them run onto fields and tell women in a playground with their kids to get down on the ground. The kids were crying - it so easy for those cops. I saw them on streets make women get down on the ground and against fences. I saw at least 3 cops enter a pregnant woman's house to arrest her and take her in - for a facebook post. I saw them in so many western countries become absolute bullies. With glee. I will never forget and what Jordan says here will always be on my mind. Nobody is safe from authoritarianism. Nobody.
Just watched "Zone of Interest". Well worth the time. It's the story of Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss and his wife Hedwig
Also "Boy in Striped Pajamas".
If you read Viktor Frankl’s book Man’s Search For Meaning, he talks about how certain Jewish people, men & women, were put into positions, by the German guards, of being in charge of certain Jewish encampment groups and how they were often worse in how they treated their fellow Jews than the German soldiers were. So, there’s that also when it comes to human behaviour. We saw similar behaviour beginning to be demonstrated in the plandemic years since 2020.
J.wish police in ghettos was yet another level of psychopathy.
Define similar lol
@@adamgates1142 where were you during 2020-2022, living under a rock? Or, perhaps you were one of those I referred to as being nastier towards their own kind than those who were the legitimate oppressors 🤨 Either way, defining ‘similar’ to you is a waste of my time and energy.
Growing up, I always wondered how a fleet of regular people became the Third Reich.
Since 2020, I got my answer.
... though, if I was really honest, the breadcrumbs were being laid since 2010.
Growing up I always wondered how a fleet of regular people became the Third Reich. Watching the MAGA movement and the events of Jan 6, I got my answer.
Corrie ten Boom’s book The Hiding Place ends with her extending forgiveness to a prison guard at her concentration camp after the war had ended. Very powerful book!
The Getman army's units were based a lot on common geography vs American units with men coming from different parts of the country, especially replacements. Men who fought together for Germany were from the same towns. This created more combat cohesion and a sense of not wanting to let your fellow comrade down.
Another theory could be that the place wasn’t what we were told it was.
its illegal to say that in some countries
A long time ago I looked into the horrors committed by prison guards at concentration camps. Horrible cruel acts which weren't required of them to do their "jobs" (which was simply to take train-loads of alive people and turn them into dead people), but they simply wanted to. Torturing, and causing extra suffering was pointless and slowed the process down, but these sadistic people took joy in it. The men and women doing this were normal people before the war, they didn't have criminal convictions, they just abide by the law. And when that law allows them to be evil, they'll be evil.
Ever since then, and every time I meet people and work with people I can't help secretly asking myself- would this person be one of those guards if given the chance. I'm convinced I've met loads like that.
Yes, there are people who pretend to be good, but are actually truly evil. Good people don’t all of a sudden become bad. They see a chance to be who they really are.
In the early 1960s a study was done as an exercise by a university's school of statistical analysis. They examined several thousand employment psychology exams. Their conclusions showed that a person with a naturally dishonest character was nine times more likely to seek employment in government or law enforcement. If you think about it, that explains a lot. 😮
You meet one every day you look in the mirror. That's the actual lesson. Each of us have the capacity and even inclination to be the sadistic guard, given the right circumstances. I am the sadistic guard. You are the sadistic guard. We should first be suspicious of ourselves.
What is striking is how many of them returned to their pre-war existence and led normal, even worthwhile, lives. Doctors and nurses, for example. Their depraved behaviour just stopped. Adds weight to the gentleman's argument.
Toss, I'm relieved to read your comment as I do the same. I work with a lot of people and I keep a mental note of comments people make that indicates they have some anger that is just below the surface.
Now let’s talk about the Soviet gulags.
A big factor also was the feeling like they won't be held accountable for their actions and could always say that they were just following orders. They put their conscience aside once they knew they were just a part of a bigger evil and not directly responsible.
my grandfather died at auschwitz. got drunk and fell off the guard tower.
OMG...
Dark humor. What a nice treat.
Those evil Jews responsible for another loss of life
Lame old joke. Stfu
That jokes older than your grandfather !
Which interview is this from? I’d like to watch the whole thing.
From the UA-cam channel- Diary of a CEO
Jordan is just such a great thinker. I’m jealous of his ability to explain and discuss things.
Karl Konvoent was the self-styled 'Uber Kapo" at Auschwitz. My father met him when he entered the camp in September 1944.
Immaculately dressed, this guy stood and 'welcomed' new prisoners, explaining gleefully what would happen to them if they omitted to hand over any valuables on them.
My father left for Buchenwald on the day of the uprising - October 7th, 1944. Russian prisoners got hold of Konvoent and stabbed him to with an inch of his life. Still alive, they threw him into one of the ovens.
Peterson is probably right. Nevertheless ...There were over 90 concentration camps ín Germany, not for Jews etc but for German citizens. Communists, socialists, homosexuals - everybody who thought differently or refused to "cooperate" was sent to such a prison. So there was a lot of coercion.
There was a vast concentration camp system, but the death camps in the east were established for one reason only: to exterminate the Jews. Treblinka, Sobibor, Chelmno, Bełżec were built with one purpose: murder. Majdanek and Auschwitz II-Birkenau had both concentration camps and a death camp component.
He's actually entirely right. You have a point as well. National Socialism included all sorts of montrosities such as eugenics, the eradication of the handicapped through things like Aktion T-4, and Social Darwinism. The USSR was no different under Joseph Stalin. Same with the PRC under Mao Tse Dong. The true mostrosity is Socialism writ large. George Orwell gave us a very good idea of where this all leads in 1984.
Purple triangles.
The German people believed in what they were fighting for,that’s why it took four other countries to defeat them,certain people were scared of their power
@@colinhunt4057 You are aware that Western Europe has been social democracies for most of their time after WW2? I don't think socialism is the root of evil, but autocracy is. Small group of people having firm control over a country without freedom of press and filled with propaganda.