I’m so envious. I feel like the attention he gives and the earnestness with he strives to find the perfect dart for YOU is the kind of satisfaction most people seek in a day spa. This would be very therapeutic for me!
The owner of the dart shop I go to does this as well when it’s not too busy.. i went in there for my first darts and told him i had no clue what I wanted and no technique either and he made me throw at least 40 different darts :p
Great video. I was lucky enough to have a coaching session with Andy and he was brilliant! Great to chat to, very patient, makes you feel at ease and just a genuinely nice guy! Keep up the amazing work 😀
what a terrific program! To have someone that knowledgeable do the mix-n-match for you and have all the equipment options on the table is what everyone should be able to do when they want to get even a little better. I wish we had a program like this in our area in Canada. I think I even picked up some tips for MYSELF just by watching this video.
Absolutely brilliant video. Learned lots. Darts Corner crew are great. Met them one time years ago and had a great time with them. More videos like this please.
You can spend days on end messing about trying to find "the right dart" that instantly makes you more accurate. But as long as the dart flies well and lands at a good angle in the board, the rest is down to your physical makeup. You're either genetically suited or not. Much like most sports.
Just goes to show there is an art to getting the right darts. This man could literally save you thousand of hours in trial and error time. Fantastic video.
What a great video. Really insightful into the process. I've been wondering about this myself, but wasn't sure it was worth trekking all the way to Bolton from London. I can see now that it is more involved than just throwing a handful of different darts. What a great service. I'm going to have to find time to book a slot. 🎯👍
30:00 I disagree with the statement about the points. Yes, you can change angles with flights and stems, but if you use a shorter stem for example, it will effect the stability of the dart. I kinda wish more companies would fit darts with 35mm points as standard.
I agree. If Andy recommends molded flights, having a point with a taper to reduce the lip on the darts is going to be more beneficial than a standard point configuration that will only chew up the darts and give wild deflections. There’s a reason the pros do it
Every new darts player would love this service, I am about to buy a bunch of cheap darts with various grip types to find my ideal dart. I could also just drive to Bolton I guess... lol
What a fantastic, educational video. Thumbs up. Personally, i can't agree with the points opinion. Almost all sets of darts i buy have around 26mm points, which is just too short for me, and have no problem changing them and getting them the same length (i'm not good enough to worry about a half mil discrepancy!), but otherwise,fantastic.
Learned great amount from this video. Currently going through the trial and error of dart styles and fly types. I just got into dart, I'm a avid billiards pkayer and bowler. I went through about 6k to finding the perfect set up in billiards. In bowling about 600 hundred. Love playering all 3 games. Just the trail and error in the beginning gets pricey and tiresome.
I used to flick my wrist, I've gone to an arm throw, i don't in gauge my wrist with tipping back and flick forward motion. if I'm not concentrating , my wrist will creep in and move( tiny flick) side to side in the follow through, they tend to be way off.
Very interesting and helpful. No doubt a certain style and grip you will always feel comfortable with. I would say you will not settle down to a particular dart for 2 or 3 years of heavy competitive throwing!
Mission Chiron M2? Almost bought a set of these once. Honestly should have. I have the same issue as you. The longer barrel when it comes back hits my glasses. I'm playing with barrels between 45-50mm and using an inbetween shaft with No6 shape flights.
Have the exact same issue with longer darts with my glasses. I’ve thrown my best stuff in the past with Taylor Gen 7s so this shape of dart being most suited to me is no surprise really
@@connorcain3852 I have a set of McKicks premium blacks. They are probably the closest thing I have to the Chiron. I put the mission sniper grip points on them. Andy made a good point in the video about not changing points because of the barrel being weakened and just use the points they come in.
What a great video, I wish we had someone like Andy here across the pond. The whole time I was watching this, I was wishing I were in England throwing some darts and having a pint with normal people!
Wish I had a place like this in Canada! Just started throwing again after many years away, and would love the chance to be coached into the proper dart for me. Great video!
Vincent vd Voort shop in Zaandam has some good staff (his wife) that can help you pick a great set of darts for you! If you're lucky the giant himself will be in :)
Really interesting video mate . Even watching, you could see the difference with barrels, level of grip, stem length & how they were altering their flight to the board & angle of entry. Thanks, just show's we all have different throws but if you have the "right" dart for you , you'll get to know the dart & when it's off , the correction is far easier to make. Just subbed, very good stuff. Cheers 👍🎯🎯👍
I wanna go there!! Do we have a similar darts shop in the Netherlands?? I mean where someone is present with this knowledge and the will to help a die hard, not very talented🙄, darts fan!?? Great video!! Thank you
Trudarts in Heeze doet dit ook. Wel kwalitatief in mindere maten maar het komt in grote lijnen op hetzelfde neer. Kijken hoe de pijl in het bord staat en je gaat wel door 10 setjes heen op een goede avond.
All well and good hetting a dart you can throw simple thing is if youre coordination is off no matter what dart you throw, its off. The dart is just a part of the technique. Your stance, aim, throw, attitude etc are all things ANY dart cant fix. I throw a phil taylor 8s....can hit the 69s no bother at times, then mix it with attitude, mood, surroundings people, beer, time of day, etc et and they go all over the shop.
Cracking video Connor. I had my experience November last year. Absolutely loved every second of it, Andy has so much knowledge and he makes you feel like a professional, such a nice bloke. I'm getting more consistent in my throw now and throwing less 26's and when I am missing it's not by much. Keep up the good work 👍🏼🎯
How did you go about sorting that out? I don't live far and would love a fitting and a bit of advice. Getting the right darts would allow me to concentrate on other things I suppose.
@@garyb6152 I'll have a look,but I also work nights so always gonna struggle with anything that's evenings unfortunately. I'd just love the chance to play more regularly
Brilliant video mate, learnt such a lot, thanks so much for sharing. Think Snakebite could do with spending a couple of hours with this guy Andy, seems a great guy.🤣🤣
WHERE CAN I GET FITTED!? I am in Va, USA and doesn't look like there is anywhere within a few hours of me :,( just bought a set of Red dragon freestyle 22g Red and hit my first 180 with them but am overall MUCH less consistent with them compared to a cheap set of unicorn darts my wife got me with the dart board a while back. I am a rear gripper with middle finger on the barrel and ring finger on the point. Any suggestions of at least a direction to go in? Don't have the money to keep trying a bunch.
I think if you don’t have the ability to get fitted I’ve found success with mitigating inconsistency in my throw by taking slow motion videos of my throw. Analyze the arc of the dart and then analyzing my grip and switching up shaft lengths. Don’t be afraid to try all the different shaft lengths and remember it doesn’t matter what other people use as long as it works for you. I been playing for almost 20 years and I still do this. I play both soft tip and steel tip(using different darts) and that’s taught me a lot that there’s no such thing as the absolutely perfect darts for a person. You can adjust to different darts, as long as they aren’t completely wrong for your throw style!
I haven’t thrown darts in many years, but I have begun to throw again. I recently came cross a set of darts with a needle shaft and flights w/ a tiny tube that the needles go into. Do you know what they are called? It seems they are no longer made. Any thoughts or comments about them? What are they called? Thanks for an interesting decision-making process in this video.
Good video wish I had a local expert near me I know my preferred weight is 26g torpedo but sometimes it feels like I'm throwing nothink and need to go up to 30g so I can feel the dart in my hand I throw from the wrist I use a medium size stem I'm interested in flights as I think this is the part of my dart I've not given much attention too Can you advise me on what type shape ect will be ok
In England, you could get a similar experience with someone who runs a dart shop - I’m sure America is no different. People who run dart shops know the game pretty well and they should give you as much time as you want to throw darts to your satisfaction. It is worth calling some near you
I’m so envious. I feel like the attention he gives and the earnestness with he strives to find the perfect dart for YOU is the kind of satisfaction most people seek in a day spa. This would be very therapeutic for me!
The owner of the dart shop I go to does this as well when it’s not too busy.. i went in there for my first darts and told him i had no clue what I wanted and no technique either and he made me throw at least 40 different darts :p
@@basstouristwhere it is mate
i would fly to england for a day or two just to get a session like that
same 😁
Sounds a bit sad bro.
@@simonlevett4776 bro felt 😈😈
This was so much more interesting than I expected, I've learned so much!
Great video. I was lucky enough to have a coaching session with Andy and he was brilliant! Great to chat to, very patient, makes you feel at ease and just a genuinely nice guy! Keep up the amazing work 😀
Thanks mate
what a terrific program! To have someone that knowledgeable do the mix-n-match for you and have all the equipment options on the table is what everyone should be able to do when they want to get even a little better. I wish we had a program like this in our area in Canada. I think I even picked up some tips for MYSELF just by watching this video.
nobody does it like the brits
Superb video! Was it 43 mins long? Geez, time just flew by so interesting and informative.
For years I was convinced a straight barrel dart was what I needed . Years later I play really well with a John Lowe dart !
Great video, Wish i could get such a service in Poland
Absolutely brilliant video. Learned lots. Darts Corner crew are great. Met them one time years ago and had a great time with them. More videos like this please.
That Andy fella seems great at his job 👌👌
You can spend days on end messing about trying to find "the right dart" that instantly makes you more accurate. But as long as the dart flies well and lands at a good angle in the board, the rest is down to your physical makeup. You're either genetically suited or not. Much like most sports.
Just goes to show there is an art to getting the right darts. This man could literally save you thousand of hours in trial and error time. Fantastic video.
What a great video. Really insightful into the process. I've been wondering about this myself, but wasn't sure it was worth trekking all the way to Bolton from London. I can see now that it is more involved than just throwing a handful of different darts. What a great service. I'm going to have to find time to book a slot. 🎯👍
30:00 I disagree with the statement about the points.
Yes, you can change angles with flights and stems, but if you use a shorter stem for example, it will effect the stability of the dart.
I kinda wish more companies would fit darts with 35mm points as standard.
I agree. If Andy recommends molded flights, having a point with a taper to reduce the lip on the darts is going to be more beneficial than a standard point configuration that will only chew up the darts and give wild deflections. There’s a reason the pros do it
Great video! Thanks for these insight view of the precision day. I only wish, there would be something similar here in Germany as well.
That'd be great yeah
Every new darts player would love this service, I am about to buy a bunch of cheap darts with various grip types to find my ideal dart. I could also just drive to Bolton I guess... lol
Great video mate. I found it so interesting and would love to try a Mission Precision Day with Andy. Happy darting.
Thank you ❤
Great video! It felt like I was watching Peter Wright play a match. hahaha
😂😂😂
Really interesting video, amazing how much money we have all spent trying to do this ourselves.
Collecting darts is great 😂
Great video! Always wanted to know more about this.
Fantastic watch, you looked like you enjoyed every minute of it, Connor. Andy seems such a top bloke aswell....
Great content mate. 🫡
Thank you mate, appreciate it 🤝🏼
What a fantastic, educational video. Thumbs up. Personally, i can't agree with the points opinion. Almost all sets of darts i buy have around 26mm points, which is just too short for me, and have no problem changing them and getting them the same length (i'm not good enough to worry about a half mil discrepancy!), but otherwise,fantastic.
Appreciate the kind words 🤝🏼
Don't mention it . It was a thoroughly informative watch, and will certainly have me re-assessing my setup and playing around a bit more.
I am booked in for this in March really loved watching this great video
How much does it cost?
What does a session like this Cost?
£250 includes darts and a goodie bag I believe
Where can I book something like this?
Great video. Would love to see a update after a few weeks with the same darts
Great insight.
Learned great amount from this video. Currently going through the trial and error of dart styles and fly types. I just got into dart, I'm a avid billiards pkayer and bowler. I went through about 6k to finding the perfect set up in billiards. In bowling about 600 hundred. Love playering all 3 games. Just the trail and error in the beginning gets pricey and tiresome.
How do you find out if you are a wrist or arm thrower?
I used to flick my wrist, I've gone to an arm throw, i don't in gauge my wrist with tipping back and flick forward motion.
if I'm not concentrating , my wrist will creep in and move( tiny flick) side to side in the follow through, they tend to be way off.
Great video , thank you for sharing!!
Very interesting and helpful. No doubt a certain style and grip you will always feel comfortable with. I would say you will not settle down to a particular dart for 2 or 3 years of heavy competitive throwing!
Mission Chiron M2? Almost bought a set of these once. Honestly should have. I have the same issue as you. The longer barrel when it comes back hits my glasses. I'm playing with barrels between 45-50mm and using an inbetween shaft with No6 shape flights.
Have the exact same issue with longer darts with my glasses. I’ve thrown my best stuff in the past with Taylor Gen 7s so this shape of dart being most suited to me is no surprise really
@@connorcain3852 I have a set of McKicks premium blacks. They are probably the closest thing I have to the Chiron. I put the mission sniper grip points on them. Andy made a good point in the video about not changing points because of the barrel being weakened and just use the points they come in.
I'm terrible but I've settled for 21gram Rob cross darts. Love a 26!!!
Excellent video Connor. Didn’t know there is such a service to offer. May get myself a booking.
Great being able to get fitted properly, almost like getting fitted for golf clubs lol. Very knowledgeable 👍
What a great video, I wish we had someone like Andy here across the pond. The whole time I was watching this, I was wishing I were in England throwing some darts and having a pint with normal people!
This service actually includes a welcome drink... Just to make you want it more.
Wish I had a place like this in Canada! Just started throwing again after many years away, and would love the chance to be coached into the proper dart for me. Great video!
Interesting video, but don’t know how I can get the right set being here in New Zealand
The Ollivander of darts. Curious very Curious
Great video. Wish I could have the sane treatment/advice in the Netherlands.
Vincent vd Voort shop in Zaandam has some good staff (his wife) that can help you pick a great set of darts for you! If you're lucky the giant himself will be in :)
Trudarts in Heeze as well
Very interesting video. Do you have a follow up video to show how you have been getting on with the darts chosen?
some great info there. cracking..... although to be fair, i would need a bigger board...
Does Andy come to Belgium by any chance? 😂
Great video, very insightfull.
Really good vid this bud. I always ‘think’ I know what suits but may try this one day..!
Really great video here. But a question slightly offtopic: what cam are u using to film the board? Really good quality from atleast 3 meters?
Very envious. Its too bad this isnt really a thing where im from. Id love for someone who knows so much about the game to help me find my perfect dart
Green condors are zero stress.white ones are axe.!
Gid luck lad eh 🎯 180 🎩 .
Awesome video......
Great video. I wish i could afford that experience, but at 250 its too much for me to justify ☹
Really interesting video mate .
Even watching, you could see the difference with barrels, level of grip, stem length & how they were altering their flight to the board & angle of entry.
Thanks, just show's we all have different throws but if you have the "right" dart for you , you'll get to know the dart & when it's off , the correction is far easier to make.
Just subbed, very good stuff.
Cheers 👍🎯🎯👍
Appreciate the kind comments
i think we all could benefit with a session like this.
The connoisseur of darts! I would pay $200 for a session like that!
Good stuff! Almost hitting 2 180s! The old set are Whitlock World Cup SEs fitted with Target Onyx points?
Great informative video conner, i would never have thought of so many things to consider in finding the right darts, just subscribed 🎯
Appreciate that, thanks for the sub 🤝🏼
I wanna go there!! Do
we have a similar darts shop in the Netherlands?? I mean where someone is present with this knowledge and the will to help a die hard, not very talented🙄, darts fan!?? Great video!! Thank you
Trudarts in Heeze doet dit ook. Wel kwalitatief in mindere maten maar het komt in grote lijnen op hetzelfde neer. Kijken hoe de pijl in het bord staat en je gaat wel door 10 setjes heen op een goede avond.
All well and good hetting a dart you can throw simple thing is if youre coordination is off no matter what dart you throw, its off. The dart is just a part of the technique. Your stance, aim, throw, attitude etc are all things ANY dart cant fix. I throw a phil taylor 8s....can hit the 69s no bother at times, then mix it with attitude, mood, surroundings people, beer, time of day, etc et and they go all over the shop.
Really enjoying this. The process of elimination is a lot of fun. Would be hard to buy a dart any other way, now!
So could you please tell us the exact dart and flight/ shaft combo you went with? Thanks. Great video
How can I get those exact darts 🎯
I might have to consider some of these sessions myself and I wish you luck Connor to match Luke littler
Thank you mate 🤝🏼
@@connorcain3852 🤝
What is the cost of the fitting?
@@ericjencson9489 £250, includes the darts, a welcome drink and some merch/accessories. Hour long session.
Would kill for a fitting like this!
Cracking video Connor. I had my experience November last year. Absolutely loved every second of it, Andy has so much knowledge and he makes you feel like a professional, such a nice bloke. I'm getting more consistent in my throw now and throwing less 26's and when I am missing it's not by much. Keep up the good work 👍🏼🎯
How did you go about sorting that out? I don't live far and would love a fitting and a bit of advice. Getting the right darts would allow me to concentrate on other things I suppose.
and there are darts enthusiasts in other countries who does not have access to these kind of pro services.. its sad..
Were the darts you ended up with included in the initial price ?
Yes they were
I throw a 26g phil taylor phase 5 unicorn dart with side loaders , would love to work with this guy truly.
What an awesome video 👌
Thank you ❤
Brilliant video mate. Hope it's okay, I've shared it in my Facebook group
Walking along, singing a song, walking in a Cain wonderland
🤣 🤝🏼 ❤
What about the oval flights? Would they make a difference?
Superb video,would love if there's anyone east London /Essex way who could offer help like this
Sod it Jim...join the IDL darts league it'll bring your game on loads plus you can try everyone else's Darts while your playing people
@@garyb6152 I'll have a look,but I also work nights so always gonna struggle with anything that's evenings unfortunately. I'd just love the chance to play more regularly
Really intresting
Thanks mate
How do I find the information about where the weight is in the dart and how long the points are? I live rural and can’t just go to a darts shop
Would love to have such an opportunity to be fitted for darts locally
What darts would be the best for back grip arm thrower with hard strong throw? Where barrel should be weighted and what lenght of dart?
Brilliant video mate, learnt such a lot, thanks so much for sharing. Think Snakebite could do with spending a couple of hours with this guy Andy, seems a great guy.🤣🤣
Are these still your main set of darts you should do a review how you finding them few months later
I use a jim pike dart feels great in the hand
WHERE CAN I GET FITTED!? I am in Va, USA and doesn't look like there is anywhere within a few hours of me :,( just bought a set of Red dragon freestyle 22g Red and hit my first 180 with them but am overall MUCH less consistent with them compared to a cheap set of unicorn darts my wife got me with the dart board a while back. I am a rear gripper with middle finger on the barrel and ring finger on the point. Any suggestions of at least a direction to go in? Don't have the money to keep trying a bunch.
I think if you don’t have the ability to get fitted I’ve found success with mitigating inconsistency in my throw by taking slow motion videos of my throw. Analyze the arc of the dart and then analyzing my grip and switching up shaft lengths. Don’t be afraid to try all the different shaft lengths and remember it doesn’t matter what other people use as long as it works for you. I been playing for almost 20 years and I still do this. I play both soft tip and steel tip(using different darts) and that’s taught me a lot that there’s no such thing as the absolutely perfect darts for a person. You can adjust to different darts, as long as they aren’t completely wrong for your throw style!
This is my dream to have something like this, do they charge for a session like this?
Yup, £250 and that price includes the darts you eventually settle on
Oh wow that’s pretty cool
@@connorcain3852Target Elysians 😂
Awesome ! I wld give very much to have something similar in germany...
Great video…Do you have detailed info of what darts and flights you ended up leaving with?
This is very therapeutic
Great video! What kind of darts/set did you end up with? Can you provide a link maybe?
How much did it cost for the fitting session??
£250 for the session and that price includes the darts you eventually settle on
@@connorcain3852have you stuck with the darts ever since?
I haven’t thrown darts in many years, but I have begun to throw again. I recently came cross a set of darts with a needle shaft and flights w/ a tiny tube that the needles go into. Do you know what they are called? It seems they are no longer made. Any thoughts or comments about them? What are they called? Thanks for an interesting decision-making process in this video.
Perhaps Unicorn slipstik? If it’s what I’m thinking of, Phil Taylor used to use them
Quality, how do I go about booking in for a fitting and what’s the price?
I put a link in the description 😊
3 months on, I'm interested to know if you're still throwing the new barrels, or have you gone back to your original straight barrel darts?
Still using the set-up from Andy Cornwall. We’re back with Andy in a couple of months for a follow-up
This level of dart customer service does not exist in Canada. No store would ever let me throw so many darts
Do we even have a store left for drats.
Good video wish I had a local expert near me I know my preferred weight is 26g torpedo but sometimes it feels like I'm throwing nothink and need to go up to 30g so I can feel the dart in my hand I throw from the wrist
I use a medium size stem I'm interested in flights as I think this is the part of my dart I've not given much attention too Can you advise me on what type shape ect will be ok
Man.. where in the states can we go to get this kind of session.
The right dart can add 20-30% to your game.
How do I find someone to do something like this ? Love to find and shop and an experience person to guide me
Peter write be like 😮
What was the new darts ? Not sure If I missed the name or not
Mission Chiron Darts M2
@@connorcain3852What flights did you end up getting and what size? I know they were condors but not sure which ones and what size.
Anybody knows where is the Netherlands you can do this?
Trudarts in Heeze is alright
How can we all get assessed this way?
Does someone know of an equivalent service in the US?
In England, you could get a similar experience with someone who runs a dart shop - I’m sure America is no different.
People who run dart shops know the game pretty well and they should give you as much time as you want to throw darts to your satisfaction. It is worth calling some near you
Man I would love for there to be a place like this around me. Hell I would travel a couple hundred miles for something like this lol.
Which make of darts did you purchase? My throw is very similar to yours and l would be open to buy a set just like those. Cheers
So arm thrower less grip tapered at front ,front weight aswell?
Does it apply to soft tip dart as well?