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Original Assetto Corsa is what I would like to see please Seb, with the gfx mods I noted in the last videos comments. And on a big free roam city map like the very popular Shutoko Revival Project - which is a recreation of a real highway that runs through Tokyo - as seen in Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift. It will also be more fun for you to drive than trying to talk whilst driving on a racetrack. There is also a track that is over 900km of German autobahn. But that is a paid mod and will melt your PC in VR currently in its beta state, even with a more modest headset like the O+
@@mixedrealityTV The 2014 Assetto with 4 mods looks and feels amazing, and if you don't want to waste time learning, the best thing is to talk to the boss, it all starts with the content manager, Content Manager and a message to its creator, Ilia Yusupov, I suppose he will take good care of you and he will still make you a package with everything, maybe with a 3080 you can set the Cristal to 200%...
The fact that it draws power from the battery while hooked up with cable really is something I didn't expect. 🤔 Cool video and experience though, thank you !
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Yeah, like other headsets such as Index have. Could and should have been made with power provided through that incredibly wide breakout box of theirs.
Is the eye tracked foveated rendering working in Open XR yet? Over the years I have tried this game with a 2070, 3080, Quest 1, 2 and G2 and I can tell you that Eye tracked foveated rendering is the key to make this look good. I can run my Quest Pro with a 4090 with mostly epic settings with a 130-140% pixel density and it looks as good or better then AMS2 now.
@@simracingjunky9679 It would be incredible, and you would not need such a big sweet spot, the eye box with a precise fobeating and with very little latency, would raise the experience to levels never imagined, I suppose that with 2/5 of the symmetrical processes of our graph it would give the same result which now gives 100%, it would not be a linear performance, and now the graphics parallelize with all the cores, which makes them slow for this process, in short, brute force does not help...
@@JoseFcoBN I can confirm that it's a game changer with the Quest Pro. The Crystal is suppose to get support for Eye tracked FR in the future via open XR. I'm really curious to see how big of an improvement it would be on such a high res headset.
I would love to see iRacing, but would require you to get a 1 month subscription so probably not something you will end up doing. AMS2 would be a great next option as well. AC with Content Manager running Pacific Coast Highway or Shutoku Revival Project would be a fun one for you as well.
Hi Seb, I would love you to do a review on iracing running open xr which iracing obviously does out of the box. It would be interesting to see how it performs plug and play? Hope you can do this. Thanks. Mark.
@@mixedrealityTV why do you not have a RTX4090 and stronger CPU? You are a VR reviewer you should be using the latest hardware not running on mid range hardware!
@@somerandomperson8282 probaly because not everyone can afford a 4090! Any these headsets should be able to perform properly with 3080 and 3090 cards as well. I have a Varjo Areo running on a Alienware laptop with an rtx 3080ti and it’s superb!
I am a SIM racer and have many VR racing games. Right now I use the Oculus Rift S which good enough for me and has the best video clarity from my other VR headset. I have the HP Reverb G2 V2 - though the RES is supposed to be better, the sweet spot is just too narrow for me to enjoy. I just have no side vision in VR with the HP. Thanks for letting me know the Crystal works great with the 3080 graphics card and ACC game. I have the RTX-3080TI. Also thanks for the setup instructions in the description. I will be waiting to see what the price is if it gets sold on Amazon US. Thanks for the great video and take care.
The DPVR4 is sold on Amazon USA and with a 3080ti it looks impressive, you put it at 200% in steam and the sharpness is incredible, the sweet spot is the biggest I've seen, it doesn't weigh anything, it can be very comfortable or bother you, yes You have a unique face, it will never suit you, and if you have a non-standard IPD (63-65) you will see a lot of deformation, it has many things that I don't like, the worst thing is the temperature, 50º or more, otherwise it's like the Rift S with more resolution, for Simracing they can be ideal. I'm waiting for them to arrive at Amazon Europe and to be able to try them for almost a month, and if I don't manage to adjust them, I'll return them, I suppose that Amazon USA can also do the same...
He has foveated rendering (not eye tracked, but static) on. ACC has the same artifact on the grass with all pimax headsets. (And maybe other brands as well, but have not tried ACC with other headsets that support foveated rendering).
All I can say is it better be the bees knees when it comes to visuals, cos it costs 3X the price that I paid for my G2 which I pre-ordered and got for $500-600USD can't remember exactly as I paid in NZD ($1000). This headset at 1600USD will cost 3000-3200NZD and that's without having to pay more for the lighthouse addons wireless dongle and potentially better controllers. Would love it, but will have to wait a little while till I have access to the rest of my inheritance!
Oh I also completly forgot. Would you also show how the touch capctive on the controllers are on games like Vrchat or others that use that function, if you dont mind (if the controllers have that enabled yet)
Great video, but i run a 4090 with a hp reverb g2 and i know for sure that at this given time my visuals are the best there is at this moment. 12k resolution combined with that massive fov you need a 5090 or 6090 😅 even with open xr
I have a 3090 and can barely get 72 fps worh Quest 2 at medium resolution and medium/high settings. I really wonder what settings and resolution you are using to get 90 fps. Also, unfortunately, the mirror image doesn't represent what we see on the VR headset.
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As I said in the video, the controller tracking is not as good as other headsets. So for competitive first person shooters or Beat Saber on expert, no. But it still has the best visuals...
@@mixedrealityTV so in terms of size and weight it's fine? For more demanding games I'll probably get different headset aside from the Crystal. I love your videos and the podcast, thanks for the hard work!
I'd say for non sim games you kinda need to get the base stations and Index controllers, and maybe even the SteamVR plate for the Crystal, though that would add quite a bit of cost on top.
How would you feel about wearing those in a Motion rig? 1kg sound super heavy to have on your head while being tossed around by the actuators. The G2 already bounce a bit on my face while playing.
@@mixedrealityTV sure! Just didn't want the headset to be bouncing around messing up the focus on the screen/lenses hahaha thanks man! Really appreciate your answer :P
I've been looking at the Pimax 12k for my next racing sim headset, largely because the eye tracking interested me alongside Foveated Rendering & auto IPD adjustment. Is eye tracking a big enough reason to skip the 12k and get the Crystal instead?
Any chance you have the Tactsuit X40? Would it work fine in racing games with audio to haptic conversion? I know there is a dedicated haptic seat for racing but I wouldn't spend separate money. And can you try GTA5 VR mod?
Thank Youuuuu was waiting for this review on ACC since you went to Pimax Headquarter !! Question: what is the FOV compared to the 8KX ? You capture your left eye now in this recording but how far can you see when you look straight forward? Can you see both left and right mirrors ? Thanks for possibly doing a FOV review, this is my last concern!
What you want is possible, but the "barrel" effect is very noticeable, and you will be very far from the wheel, it is not natural, in real life it is not possible, so I don't understand if you are looking to simulate or fantasy?
One would expect a German man to be better at driving lol. Id like to see any game. Sim or even multiplayer shooter. I am also curious about just Google Earth. Does it use the full resolution. How does it look then?
How bad is the controller tracking in this? Would you say it's worse than the G2? Planning on using it with the Valve Knuckles anyhow, but just curious.
I would say that controller tracking is acceptable for standard gaming but not for competitive games. It also has problems when you get close to the headset. It is not a show stopper but lots of room for improvement.
@@mixedrealityTV wow that’s crazy performance…on a 4090 you can’t even get 90fps on Varjo Aero with graphics set to High and Varjo on 35ppd… are u using DLSS?
Can you do a downhill drift run at the Mt Akina stage on regular Assetto Corsa with the VDC car pack? 360 reverse entries would be cool but not required, but at a minimum just manji the straights my guy, thanks!
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Which game do you want to see in the Crystal next??
I would like to see ATS or ETS2 truck simulator, please.
The funniest thing is your driving....I love it 😂
It is really hard to concentrate on driving when also trying to give you some valuable information!!! :)
Original Assetto Corsa is what I would like to see please Seb, with the gfx mods I noted in the last videos comments. And on a big free roam city map like the very popular Shutoko Revival Project - which is a recreation of a real highway that runs through Tokyo - as seen in Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift. It will also be more fun for you to drive than trying to talk whilst driving on a racetrack. There is also a track that is over 900km of German autobahn. But that is a paid mod and will melt your PC in VR currently in its beta state, even with a more modest headset like the O+
That sounds so cool. Is there a tutorial for me to set up the Tokyo level? Can you get in touch with me on Discord? :)
@@mixedrealityTV The 2014 Assetto with 4 mods looks and feels amazing, and if you don't want to waste time learning, the best thing is to talk to the boss, it all starts with the content manager, Content Manager and a message to its creator, Ilia Yusupov, I suppose he will take good care of you and he will still make you a package with everything, maybe with a 3080 you can set the Cristal to 200%...
Unnessecary, it will run like a charm. ;) I'm really looking forward to the Crystal in AC on tracks like Fonteny, LA Canyons, or Targa Florio... 🥰
The fact that it draws power from the battery while hooked up with cable really is something I didn't expect. 🤔 Cool video and experience though, thank you !
@@Killswitch1411 why is that?
yeah tbe USB is not for power, it's not nearly enough.
It would need it's own power plug.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j How much power does it need then ?
You are welcome! :)
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Yeah, like other headsets such as Index have. Could and should have been made with power provided through that incredibly wide breakout box of theirs.
Been waiting for some ACC content
Is the eye tracked foveated rendering working in Open XR yet? Over the years I have tried this game with a 2070, 3080, Quest 1, 2 and G2 and I can tell you that Eye tracked foveated rendering is the key to make this look good. I can run my Quest Pro with a 4090 with mostly epic settings with a 130-140% pixel density and it looks as good or better then AMS2 now.
I hope DFR comes out soon!
Eye Tracking is not turned on yet. This will be so good once it works!
@@mixedrealityTV Yes I wish It would work with everything. It would make higher res headsets run a lot smoother.
@@simracingjunky9679 It would be incredible, and you would not need such a big sweet spot, the eye box with a precise fobeating and with very little latency, would raise the experience to levels never imagined, I suppose that with 2/5 of the symmetrical processes of our graph it would give the same result which now gives 100%, it would not be a linear performance, and now the graphics parallelize with all the cores, which makes them slow for this process, in short, brute force does not help...
@@JoseFcoBN I can confirm that it's a game changer with the Quest Pro. The Crystal is suppose to get support for Eye tracked FR in the future via open XR. I'm really curious to see how big of an improvement it would be on such a high res headset.
I would love to see iRacing, but would require you to get a 1 month subscription so probably not something you will end up doing. AMS2 would be a great next option as well. AC with Content Manager running Pacific Coast Highway or Shutoku Revival Project would be a fun one for you as well.
IL-2 Sturmovik next please! Thank you!
Pls
Hi Seb, I would love you to do a review on iracing running open xr which iracing obviously does out of the box.
It would be interesting to see how it performs plug and play?
Hope you can do this.
Thanks.
Mark.
Does the headset support HDR? ACC is the only game I know that allows to switch to HDR in the settings even in VR, I'd love to know it is works.
tell us important things like what graphics settings you have what card and cpu you use how many fps you get but in different scenarios
RTX 3080, Ryzen 3900, High Details for most. I see 90 fps.
@@mixedrealityTV why do you not have a RTX4090 and stronger CPU? You are a VR reviewer you should be using the latest hardware not running on mid range hardware!
@@somerandomperson8282 probaly because not everyone can afford a 4090! Any these headsets should be able to perform properly with 3080 and 3090 cards as well. I have a Varjo Areo running on a Alienware laptop with an rtx 3080ti and it’s superb!
I am a SIM racer and have many VR racing games. Right now I use the Oculus Rift S which good enough for me and has the best video clarity from my other VR headset. I have the HP Reverb G2 V2 - though the RES is supposed to be better, the sweet spot is just too narrow for me to enjoy. I just have no side vision in VR with the HP.
Thanks for letting me know the Crystal works great with the 3080 graphics card and ACC game. I have the RTX-3080TI. Also thanks for the setup instructions in the description.
I will be waiting to see what the price is if it gets sold on Amazon US.
Thanks for the great video and take care.
The DPVR4 is sold on Amazon USA and with a 3080ti it looks impressive, you put it at 200% in steam and the sharpness is incredible, the sweet spot is the biggest I've seen, it doesn't weigh anything, it can be very comfortable or bother you, yes You have a unique face, it will never suit you, and if you have a non-standard IPD (63-65) you will see a lot of deformation, it has many things that I don't like, the worst thing is the temperature, 50º or more, otherwise it's like the Rift S with more resolution, for Simracing they can be ideal.
I'm waiting for them to arrive at Amazon Europe and to be able to try them for almost a month, and if I don't manage to adjust them, I'll return them, I suppose that Amazon USA can also do the same...
The DPVR E4 really is nice.
What are the black artifacts appearing in the grass? Do you see that in the headset?
He has foveated rendering (not eye tracked, but static) on. ACC has the same artifact on the grass with all pimax headsets. (And maybe other brands as well, but have not tried ACC with other headsets that support foveated rendering).
It is from Fixed Foveated Rendering to get more fps on my 3080. You can turn it off if you have a better GPU.
All I can say is it better be the bees knees when it comes to visuals, cos it costs 3X the price that I paid for my G2 which I pre-ordered and got for $500-600USD can't remember exactly as I paid in NZD ($1000). This headset at 1600USD will cost 3000-3200NZD and that's without having to pay more for the lighthouse addons wireless dongle and potentially better controllers. Would love it, but will have to wait a little while till I have access to the rest of my inheritance!
I would have to pay 2200 euro for it, so no....the G2 will do its job for some more years.
Thanks for this!
Looking forward to different genres as well.
Can you add some thru the lens shots
Yep, I will do through the lens soon. :)
Oh I also completly forgot. Would you also show how the touch capctive on the controllers are on games like Vrchat or others that use that function, if you dont mind (if the controllers have that enabled yet)
Great video, but i run a 4090 with a hp reverb g2 and i know for sure that at this given time my visuals are the best there is at this moment. 12k resolution combined with that massive fov you need a 5090 or 6090 😅 even with open xr
Please send us a video of what software you use and how you set it up
I wrote it in the description of this video.
I have a 3090 and can barely get 72 fps worh Quest 2 at medium resolution and medium/high settings. I really wonder what settings and resolution you are using to get 90 fps. Also, unfortunately, the mirror image doesn't represent what we see on the VR headset.
It's in the description. I use OpenXR Toolkit.
Seb! How would you compare G2 FOV to the Crystal?
Crystal has way more vertically and a bit more horizontally.
Left eye recording only right? So we should see about 40% more to the right
Please create through the lens comparison (stiil photos to see the resoultion) in the center and in the periphery with Reverb G2 and Vario Aero.
Thanks Sebastian for your time! :-)
You are welcome!
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sounds more like you just buy everything :)
So glad I could help you get all of those amazing devices! This one you will like a lot as well. It is SO much fun.
@nobody nowhere The wife's not to happy about it lol
For the Battery itself (that can last 6hrs straight), is it with the USB power cable plugged in the PC or the QC3.0 adapter?
It is with a powered USB hub.
can you see the pixels? cause in the g2 this bother me a lot.
Nope, you cannot see the pixels anymore.
Is this better than playing gt7 in PSVR 2?
Yes. But I still love GT7 for it's addictive gameplay.
Can you recommend this headset for other games besides sims?
As I said in the video, the controller tracking is not as good as other headsets. So for competitive first person shooters or Beat Saber on expert, no. But it still has the best visuals...
@@mixedrealityTV so in terms of size and weight it's fine? For more demanding games I'll probably get different headset aside from the Crystal.
I love your videos and the podcast, thanks for the hard work!
I'd say for non sim games you kinda need to get the base stations and Index controllers, and maybe even the SteamVR plate for the Crystal, though that would add quite a bit of cost on top.
thanks would you put the video settings of the game you used thank you very much
I have a 2080. Still a recommended upgrade for a original Vive user?
How is the comfort compared to the Varjo Aero? I have preordered the Crystal, but the Aero is $300 off this week.
can someone explain why i can use the index controllers with the reverb G2 but not on the pimax, wont the same setup work?
Yes it could work as well. But it's simpler just waiting for the Lighthouse module.
I recognize the Open XR Tool Kit from the black snow on the edges of the screen
Yep. :)
How would you feel about wearing those in a Motion rig? 1kg sound super heavy to have on your head while being tossed around by the actuators. The G2 already bounce a bit on my face while playing.
It is very stable on your head. An actual safety helmet weighs 1.5kg, so that's pure immersion. You want it to feel real!
@@mixedrealityTV sure! Just didn't want the headset to be bouncing around messing up the focus on the screen/lenses hahaha thanks man! Really appreciate your answer :P
I've been looking at the Pimax 12k for my next racing sim headset, largely because the eye tracking interested me alongside Foveated Rendering & auto IPD adjustment. Is eye tracking a big enough reason to skip the 12k and get the Crystal instead?
I'm waiting for the trade in program with the 12k, otherwise I would have bought the crystal already
Eye tracking hardware is in crystal right now. They will enable it in the future software update
Crystal has all that!
Sebastian, do you know when the Pimax Crystal starts shipping time to the customers?
It is happening now! They are sending it out.
Seb I have Quest 2 ,do I just download Toolkit and Composite as I'm not sure if there is a special file for Quest ty
Yeah, it should work.
Any chance you have the Tactsuit X40? Would it work fine in racing games with audio to haptic conversion? I know there is a dedicated haptic seat for racing but I wouldn't spend separate money. And can you try GTA5 VR mod?
Cyberpunk VR mod might be also cool
Is this worth the upgrade from an 8KX?
Yes, for the clarity, but not for the FOV, as it is smaller.
I mean the weather time of day how many opponents in the race
Thank Youuuuu was waiting for this review on ACC since you went to Pimax Headquarter !!
Question: what is the FOV compared to the 8KX ? You capture your left eye now in this recording but how far can you see when you look straight forward? Can you see both left and right mirrors ? Thanks for possibly doing a FOV review, this is my last concern!
What you want is possible, but the "barrel" effect is very noticeable, and you will be very far from the wheel, it is not natural, in real life it is not possible, so I don't understand if you are looking to simulate or fantasy?
Just to compare the actual FOV from the Crystal to the 8KX in ACC ?
whats your computer setup?
Thanks for the video.. what's your VR pixel density setting?
It's in the description.
I only see the resolution override in openxr. But I'm looking for the "VR pixel density" in game Setting. If you didn't touch it, it's probably 100%
One would expect a German man to be better at driving lol.
Id like to see any game. Sim or even multiplayer shooter.
I am also curious about just Google Earth. Does it use the full resolution. How does it look then?
Google Earth is incredible even on a Quest 2. Can't imagine what it will look like on this.
Google Earth will be unbelievable in this. I am so sure. But yeah, I will try some other things as well. :)
How bad is the controller tracking in this? Would you say it's worse than the G2? Planning on using it with the Valve Knuckles anyhow, but just curious.
I would say that controller tracking is acceptable for standard gaming but not for competitive games. It also has problems when you get close to the headset. It is not a show stopper but lots of room for improvement.
@@mixedrealityTV I see. Thanks for the answer, appreciated!
Ye we really was interested on what graphical setting u had on tbh,
HIGH on most.
@@mixedrealityTV wow that’s crazy performance…on a 4090 you can’t even get 90fps on Varjo Aero with graphics set to High and Varjo on 35ppd… are u using DLSS?
Does this work with the Valve Knuckles?
Yes, in July they will have a Lighthouse module.
How is it compared to PSVR2 and GT7?
Sooooo much better.
@@mixedrealityTV Damn 😆
Can you do a downhill drift run at the Mt Akina stage on regular Assetto Corsa with the VDC car pack? 360 reverse entries would be cool but not required, but at a minimum just manji the straights my guy, thanks!
Bonjours, pouvez vous faire un essais sur IRacing?
Bravo pour toutes vos vidéo !!!
Thank you! I have never tried iracing, will I need to buy a subscription or can I try for free?
I’m about to drop €2000 on the Varjo aero… would you recommend this?
This is better than Aero.
@@mixedrealityTV thanks I’ll seriously consider this instead then. Does it come complete with audio output and hand controls do you know?
@@Lifeguruonafence yes, everything included.
@@mixedrealityTV good stuff, thanks 🙏
Can I use my index light houses?
Yes, once the Lighthouse module is out.
90 fps on what graphics settings?
High
Wonder if you can do Automobilista 2 in the rain. Let’s see what kind of fps you get there.. I don’t expect miracles from your driving 😂
Haha.. :)
Flight Sim. And please do some stunts, like fly underneath a bridge.
Id like to see it on iRacing.
thats was ACC i offer to you? :D
Flight sim please!
I bet it’s pretty good.
Should be good on the 4090. woot!
Ich schaue einfach immer noch den englischen Channel. 😂.
Hehe, beide gleichgut!
Lowered :)
Driving slowly and talk 😊😅
3080 a bad idea everything on low please recheck with 4090
There are people with a 3080 that are very happy about this video. But yes, 4090 next. :)
@@mixedrealityTV YOU'RE doing a great job
Real shame Pimax are such a joke of a company, I waited a year for a warranty on an 8K.
So beautiful so, so, so ....
You work for pimax ????
A bit too much............
get a 4090 man
They're not cheap...
It's just around 2000$
@@zackmac5917 it´s a business expense
@@TheUmbrex an expensive one too :p
@@zackmac5917 he has 75k subs, biggest VR youtuber. I kinda expect him to not be limited by his gpu reviewing headsets