Personally I have no problem with the grey market as long as they are reputable dealers and are not exploiting customers. If ADs cannot offer you the watch you want within a realistic timescale, then they are the dealers at fault here. It is obvious that this grey market dealer has made your friend very happy whereas the AD could not, or would not.
Really interesting to see the VC Overseas (what a STUNNING timepiece!); so often it is Rolex, AP and Patek that UA-cam watch enthusiasts make videos about, but not very often do you come across videos featuring Vacheron Constantin watches.
Same here. Call New York AD there is a 10 month estimated wait list. To get on list they want a 35% deposit to hold your place and getting your money back is at the discretion of boutique.
as a young man in his 20s and getting a first and only one. Would you recom Rolex Sub or VC Overseas 4500v Stainless? To me its hard cause I know the sub is most copied watch with fakes etc and a lot of people owing one. the overseas and vc is not talked about that much. i like the sub for being very durable, at the moment I am looking at the vacheron constantin overseas and for some reason that watch is calling my name. I have a pretty active lifestyle so a durable and versatile watch would be ideal. I like VC cause its not recognized by many people and only a few will know that brand compared to like rolex, ap, patek. I feel like wearing a rolex draws unesscary attention to me since its to most well known / popular luxury brand out there.
Buy the vacheron. Rolex doesnt compare to the holy trinity watches. I just put my name down on it ans would much rather wqit and get something beautiful that has such high levels of hand finishing.
More time needed to show off the overseas, not enough detail and more pictures. I have this model on order from a AD, can’t wait. The Overseas blows away all Rolex models, a much more refined and better movement, high horology.
The grey market dealer should have taken one link from each end instead of rushing to get you out the door, the deployant clasp should be centered. Nice watch.
I love Vacheron. The minute repeater sky chart watch with the leo zodiac they did has to be one of my all time favorite watches and hope to own one in the next 15 years.
is a great watch, almost perfect, and very versatile. But I would not buy a VC in grey market, im not sure is a iconic watch or will be one, anyway excellent choice
I think 11% is pretty cheap. The money he'd have to spend on watches that he may not want to get a sizeable spend history would be a lot more. Also, let's be honest it's good to have patience and wait for an AD but when a year becomes two and so on then realistically will you ever get the call? A friend with a spend history at an AD (albeit not very recent) has been waiting for 3 years for a Starbuck.
@@peterk814 it was originally the hulk which then got replaced by the Starbuck. The essence of the statement being that even after such a long time neither have been offered.
Great to see such an amazing watch. True high horology for less than a hyped white Daytona. That's a win any day of the week for sure. Looks awesome on you too Niko!
I think it’s worth it and it’s not bad to buy from the Grey market because I won’t wait 3 years and at last I don’t get the watch I would pay 5000$ extra , I would not lose the money the Watchs always goes up in price
Thanks for sharing this adventure with us! Awesome purchase and the crew is rocking some sweet timepieces. Your Kermit is my fave and that VC is a close second.
Awesome pickup and congratulations to your friend. Even though he paid the premium to me it is an amazing pickup and definitely justified. That watch will only keep increasing in value given it has become a boutique exclusive and you need to have prior purchase history to even be put on the list to purchase. Obviously I never recommend buying watches as an investment you must buy what you love and want to wear. And this is certainly a stunner!! And well said my friend. Life outside of your career and youtube should always come first. Enjoying time with family and friends is of upmost importance. Cheers my friend hope all is well with you
Moin Niko! Why it couldn’t be so easy to buy this watch at an AD? The whole market of a couple of brands is so nuts! If I would have the knowledge about this situation 10 or better 20 years ago, I would have a nice collection that could easily pay my retirement plan! Best regards, Claus
Just curious will Vacheron honor and service the watch if they know it was purchased on the gray market? Also, how do you know for sure that it’s 100% real? Did you ask the dealer how he got the watch?
Cheers, hope you can sort everything out. All the best bro🙏🏻 In regards of the VC, not sure wether i would ever pay a premium for a watch, not for a Rolex, neither for a VC, AP or PP. There are also similar or even better watches out there for that sort of money.
May I ask why does the watch box come with two cushions? Also, how come you buddy didn't pay with credit card as he can earn some cash back and can probably help fund his next purchase! ;)
I bought this watch last year from the boutique in Miami under 20K. Wow. What has happened? Have the watch dummies' finally discovered true horology? To late! LOL
I wonder why the original owner sold the watch, or even bought it in the first place? He obviously never wore it, and I can't imagine that he made that much on it.
MSRP is ~25k, original owner probably sold it for close to 30k, so he made 4-5k and chalked up a nice purchase history for creds especially if he bought it off a multi-brand AD.
He should have bought the one you told him to buy when he got the Panerai! Either way, congrats to him on an awesome piece. And next time , he should listen to you lol
Not anymore, there is a waiting list now for this watch, obviously not like AP Royal Oak or Patek but it is getting harder to get the VC Overseas in blue dial.
Watching him re-size the bracelet made me cringe No protective tape, no board to stabilise the watch against scratching and no loctite to secure the screw
How does one buy from an AP boutique when... 1. The AP boutiques have NOTHING in stock! 2. If you want the hot pieces 15450, 15500 or a 15202 you need to buy a Code 11.59 to be even considered. I'm willing to pay a premium of 20% to get what I want rather than buying watches I don't or kissing the AD's rear. 3. AP is restocking their boutiques this September but I'm almost positive that 99.9% of the watches are spoken for so most of us have no chance to get a piece we want unless we go gray market or wait YEARS for them to determine that someone is worthy.
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Personally I have no problem with the grey market as long as they are reputable dealers and are not exploiting customers. If ADs cannot offer you the watch you want within a realistic timescale, then they are the dealers at fault here. It is obvious that this grey market dealer has made your friend very happy whereas the AD could not, or would not.
Really interesting to see the VC Overseas (what a STUNNING timepiece!); so often it is Rolex, AP and Patek that UA-cam watch enthusiasts make videos about, but not very often do you come across videos featuring Vacheron Constantin watches.
Same here. Call New York AD there is a 10 month estimated wait list. To get on list they want a 35% deposit to hold your place and getting your money back is at the discretion of boutique.
as a young man in his 20s and getting a first and only one. Would you recom Rolex Sub or VC Overseas 4500v Stainless? To me its hard cause I know the sub is most copied watch with fakes etc and a lot of people owing one. the overseas and vc is not talked about that much. i like the sub for being very durable, at the moment I am looking at the vacheron constantin overseas and for some reason that watch is calling my name. I have a pretty active lifestyle so a durable and versatile watch would be ideal. I like VC cause its not recognized by many people and only a few will know that brand compared to like rolex, ap, patek. I feel like wearing a rolex draws unesscary attention to me since its to most well known / popular luxury brand out there.
Buy the vacheron. Rolex doesnt compare to the holy trinity watches. I just put my name down on it ans would much rather wqit and get something beautiful that has such high levels of hand finishing.
More time needed to show off the overseas, not enough detail and more pictures. I have this model on order from a AD, can’t wait. The Overseas blows away all Rolex models, a much more refined and better movement, high horology.
I hope to make a detailed review of it :)
The grey market dealer should have taken one link from each end instead of rushing to get you out the door, the deployant clasp should be centered. Nice watch.
0:23 in terms of career, what do you do for a living?
Q&A Video :)
I love Vacheron. The minute repeater sky chart watch with the leo zodiac they did has to be one of my all time favorite watches and hope to own one in the next 15 years.
is a great watch, almost perfect, and very versatile. But I would not buy a VC in grey market, im not sure is a iconic watch or will be one, anyway excellent choice
I think 11% is pretty cheap. The money he'd have to spend on watches that he may not want to get a sizeable spend history would be a lot more. Also, let's be honest it's good to have patience and wait for an AD but when a year becomes two and so on then realistically will you ever get the call?
A friend with a spend history at an AD (albeit not very recent) has been waiting for 3 years for a Starbuck.
@Watch Geek 😂😂😂
Lol Starbucks hasn’t been out for three years yet. Nice try
@@peterk814 it was originally the hulk which then got replaced by the Starbuck. The essence of the statement being that even after such a long time neither have been offered.
Great to see such an amazing watch. True high horology for less than a hyped white Daytona. That's a win any day of the week for sure. Looks awesome on you too Niko!
So does this still you mean you can still enjoy the official manufacturer warranty if you buy from grey dealer?
of course
What a stunning piece…boy I’m totally obsessed with Overseas now.
amazing watch, I bought the VC 4500V silver dial 1 week ago. it's watches that become more and more expensive every week
Paid in cash, yes! A true baller there.
One of my dream watch is the bvlgari octofinnisino..can you tell me what was the cost?
Nice blue dial Vacheron Constantin Overseas. The Maltese cross bracelet and crown Overseas the most beautiful sport watches in the world.
I think it’s worth it and it’s not bad to buy from the Grey market because I won’t wait 3 years and at last I don’t get the watch I would pay 5000$ extra , I would not lose the money the Watchs always goes up in price
Thanks for sharing this adventure with us! Awesome purchase and the crew is rocking some sweet timepieces. Your Kermit is my fave and that VC is a close second.
This watch will appreciate in value over the premium. Good buy.
Awesome pickup and congratulations to your friend. Even though he paid the premium to me it is an amazing pickup and definitely justified. That watch will only keep increasing in value given it has become a boutique exclusive and you need to have prior purchase history to even be put on the list to purchase. Obviously I never recommend buying watches as an investment you must buy what you love and want to wear. And this is certainly a stunner!! And well said my friend. Life outside of your career and youtube should always come first. Enjoying time with family and friends is of upmost importance. Cheers my friend hope all is well with you
Thank you Marco :)
Also congratulations to your friend. It's a really cool watch. Was it worth it? Not in my opinion, but it is just that - an opinion.
is this blue 7900 dual time really trading at USD31K now?
Moin Niko!
Why it couldn’t be so easy to buy this watch at an AD?
The whole market of a couple of brands is so nuts!
If I would have the knowledge about this situation 10 or better 20 years ago, I would have a nice collection that could easily pay my retirement plan!
Best regards,
Claus
LOVE the lofi. RAINING in Osaka.
Just curious will Vacheron honor and service the watch if they know it was purchased on the gray market? Also, how do you know for sure that it’s 100% real? Did you ask the dealer how he got the watch?
Cheers, hope you can sort everything out. All the best bro🙏🏻
In regards of the VC, not sure wether i would ever pay a premium for a watch, not for a Rolex, neither for a VC, AP or PP. There are also similar or even better watches out there for that sort of money.
thank you bro :)
What’s better that’s out there?
Was it worth it? No question. VC creates art for the wrist. Pricey, but quality and special does not come cheap.
May I ask why does the watch box come with two cushions? Also, how come you buddy didn't pay with credit card as he can earn some cash back and can probably help fund his next purchase! ;)
The other side of the cushion has place for one watch.
VC is amazing! I love the overseas with blue dial
That VC is STUNNING 😍✨
Nice watch. Do they discount st all?
Vacheron 💙🔝👏👏👏
Great Video as always Niko. Haute Horologue is a great place. I have bought from them earlier this year.
Félicitations ! Nice watch ! Watch markets are awesome in Dubai!!
Tomorrow's Patek . Love and respect from India (Dubai)
Very good price, only11% wooow
Mabrook
I bought this watch last year from the boutique in Miami under 20K. Wow. What has happened? Have the watch dummies' finally discovered true horology? To late! LOL
VC overseas is a very nice watch
I wonder why the original owner sold the watch, or even bought it in the first place? He obviously never wore it, and I can't imagine that he made that much on it.
MSRP is ~25k, original owner probably sold it for close to 30k, so he made 4-5k and chalked up a nice purchase history for creds especially if he bought it off a multi-brand AD.
@@Samelameblamegame Ah, ok. He said it was an 11% markup, so I was not seeing where the extra money was coming from.
Defintely like how they adjusted the bracelet in front of you.
VC very nice watch 👍👍
He should have bought the one you told him to buy when he got the Panerai! Either way, congrats to him on an awesome piece. And next time , he should listen to you lol
Haha yes!!! I told him that time to go all in right away. You learn that after a while…
@@TheDubaiExpat yes. The longer you live, the more you learn. Keep up the good work
Counted the money in front while buying a 30k watch. Doesn’t seem right would kill the experience for me.
Sick watch!
amazing. I wonder how much spend history you need to have to get it from AD?
they say at least one piece that is not an overseas
Great to know the grey market is going strong +++
Great watch for a very good price
$31.300 is reasonable price. I paid $30k tax included for my, which is list price. But I waited months and I’ve spent nearly $100k.
in what currency? so this watch is not trading above retail?
Congrats 🥳 wear it in good health ✌️
Nice, this sharing information so good... God always bless you... 👍
A very beautiful watch.
Unfortunately VC will never become Patek and cannot appreciate i think no reason to buy it in grey market at all easily available in Europe
Not anymore, there is a waiting list now for this watch, obviously not like AP Royal Oak or Patek but it is getting harder to get the VC Overseas in blue dial.
Watching him re-size the bracelet made me cringe
No protective tape, no board to stabilise the watch against scratching and no loctite to secure the screw
The guys Is accepting cash payments it’s just money laundering who would buy there otherwise ?
Surprise no loctite being used on the screw.
Do you still wear this watch? What do you think about it?
hey bud, this watch was purchased by my friend Ray. He is still enjoying it, despite losing a lot of money on it.
@@TheDubaiExpat Thanks. The prices have dropped especially for Vacheron watches.
Pls buy AP from an AP boutique
nothing here in the boutiques empty
How does one buy from an AP boutique when...
1. The AP boutiques have NOTHING in stock!
2. If you want the hot pieces 15450, 15500 or a 15202 you need to buy a Code 11.59 to be even considered. I'm willing to pay a premium of 20% to get what I want rather than buying watches I don't or kissing the AD's rear.
3. AP is restocking their boutiques this September but I'm almost positive that 99.9% of the watches are spoken for so most of us have no chance to get a piece we want unless we go gray market or wait YEARS for them to determine that someone is worthy.
Super Video
Freundliche Grüsse
Richmond Watchtes
The guy resizing the bracelet got lazy and didn't bother taking a link off each side of the bracelet 😅
Eine meiner Traumuhren.
Freundliche Grüsse
Richmond Watchtes
Wonderful
Stark 💪
Those nails on the sales guy look as if they've been manicured.
Paying cash …. So weird.
They give a better price as there are no card fees then
Cash still king.
@@erwinleen4321 in most countries you can’t pay with cash due to money laundering
This is a terrible review