“No man in the sky intervened when I was a boy to deliver me from Daddy's fist and abominations” later on Superman came down from the sky to save Lex from a fist of an abomination
This scene illustrates the absolute importance of the secret identity trope when taken seriously, if some sociopath knows who you are outside your costume they can find everyone you love
Exactly. Lex Luthor could literally come out and say his shit in a cheap clown costume that would put Joker to shame, but the fact that he knows Clark is Superman and Bruce is Batman makes him a threat.
Thats why being famous is not really a good idea. You can make lots of money with fame but it also coast a lot, they can kidnap you or ur family. Also lots of girls doing amber heard sfuff nowadays.
Dan Castro well that Superman and Clark Kent felt the same. Except one can’t even stand straight and the other is strong. This one you can clearly see the difference. And unlike any other Superman movies, they did something new that’s already done in the comics. Make Superman a lot darker and more powerful because doing the same nice guy Superman saving cats out of trees is shown a thousand times and it’s cliche. And we already have comedy movies from mcu. We need dark superhero movies and dc is here for us.
@@sub-zero5433 It's just a "younger" version of Lex. I think that he becomes colder and calculator with time. Like we see in the post credit scene in Snyder's Cut. He was less frenetic in that scene, after he was in Arkham.
@@ellocosinremedio8569 I haven’t watched the Snyder cut yet I’m just basing it on how I don’t really like the casting, maybe he’ll be better in the future
@@RheemQ He was saying people think Superman getting mad here was uncharacteristic of the character when in reality it was. If someone just told you that they kidnapped your mother and threatened her life, you would of course be filled with rage.
@@thegrimreaper144 people simple are close minded and afraid to get out of their comfort zone try new things, for me this superman is good representation of how he would have been in reality atleast in the world that he is portrayed and to understand him you need to look at him as human first then as superman.
@@ponticpg1295 Exactly. It's crazy to me how this movie gets so much hate over the most absurd reasons. Don't get me wrong, people are entitled to their opinions so they can say that they hate the movie. But as far as I am concerned, this isn't a _bad_ movie. I know a bad movie when I see it. This isn't that. It is a masterpiece.
@@thegrimreaper144 i would say they have the right to their opinion but at the same time their opinion needs to make sense and be valid which most of them arent like: who calls hes mother martha, ohh noo to much destruction,batman doesn't kill etc. Are just stupid opinions, arent valid in any way even if you give them counter argument which easy to give (only from the things i wrote there answers to everyone of them) will simple say excuses or just simple stating again and again their opinion they dont want answer about why this or that they simple want to say their opinion nothing more.
I don't know if my assessment is correct, but I seem to see that Luthor literally trembles in fear in front of Superman, but he manages to maintain TOTAL control of the situation. "And now God bends to my will"
Yeah it’s so interesting how Superman starts higher than lex then begins to be on his knees after hearing about Martha then lex luthor flies off in his helicopter higher than he was before.
Naw its the opposite for me. What makes lex such a powerful character to me is his lack of awarenes.. he's so ignorantly full of himself and thinks based of his intelligence that he is a higher being himself.. that he thinks he can go toe to toe with a godlike man. (Superman) I saw no fear in this lex. And I love it. The scene where Clark yells WHERE IS SHE with his red laser eyes and lex just laughs it off.. You can interpret as lex being scared but I see as him taunting superman and getting a rise out of him and lex gets off on that. This whole scene is lex toying with superman. No fear. Sheesh
Lex exposed Superman to a weakness far worse than kryptonite. He discovered the best way to hurt Superman is to threaten and hurt those he cares for. Like General Zod in Superman 2 ala the Reeve films says to Ursa "This Superman is nothing of the kind. I discovered his weakness. He cares he actually cares for these Earth people." Ursa asks "Like pets?" Zod replies "I suppose so." and after when Superman flew away after realizing he can't fight Zod, Non and Ursa anymore without risking Metropolis be destroyed Ursa says "Why not increase his handicap. Since he cares so much for these Earth people. Let us take his favorite!" and by favorite Ursa meant Lois
It's so easy. Based on his abusive relationship with his father, Lex understood that powerful beings aren't always good. When it comes to Superman, he hates the idea of having a godlike figure acting as jury on what's good and bad, as that leaves mankind with no choice but to helplessly submit since they don't have a means to stop him. That was the message he wanted to convey with the framings ("God is tribal, god takes sides"), and that feeeling of powerlessness is what he used to fuel Batman's anger. With this philosophy, he portrays himself to the public as a philantropist, but in reality he's just a power-hungry maniac that wants to vent his resentment at Superman since he represents the godlike ideals he grew to hate.
Yep, he's an aggrieved kid who's been driven into misotheism due to his abusive childhood and now wants to prove his ideology to humanity through Superman.
People don't understand this. What they wanted was all superficial, they hated this lex because he was 'odd'. A mind that schemes like this cannot always be as composed as the previous iterations. For them this concept of lex was Psychotic. Proving that this lex is indeed too big for little minds.
That line where Lex says “If God is all powerful, he cannot be all good. If he is all good, then he cannot be all powerful” such a fascinating line of how Lex often feels inferior to this God of an alien like he often does in the comics and other media. Lex is a self made man whether it be the evil business man in the 80s/90s version to the Tech Tycoon version he is in the modern era of comics.
Lex: “But the mother of a flying demon must be a witch. The punishment for witches, what is that? That's right. Death by fire”. Then lara (real mother of superman) died by fire when krypton is on destructions.
"melted like an army man" idk why my mind went straight to the boys, where homelander lasers those army men in his house when he was looking for his son.
Don't forget this version of lex luthor, Jesse did a good lex luthor one of the only stupid reasons pple hate his lex is cause he did a different type of lex. Fun fact actually, lex luthor was originally like this in earlier superman comics so technically speaking this is a more comic accurate lex luthor
@@lucstrik2625 god I loathe this version of Lex. I mean, what is this. It’s like they turned Lex into the Mad Hatter. Thank the lord James Gunn is erasing all of this.
Naturally. Lex did something really deadly to Superman. He didn't need kryptonite to hurt Superman he discovered the only way to hurt Superman was by hurting the people he cared for (Lois and Martha) That Lex Luthor is a diseased maniac
Jesse is a great actor. He's just miscast or given a poor script. Lex Luther isn't psychotic like the Joker. Lex is after wealth, property, power. He is a wealthy criminal genius
I agree with u. Lex Luthor is an evil mastermind, a man after power and knowledge of the unknown. An evil genius.A man who saw himself as the "Savior" of Earth. A man who viewed himself as the Man of Tomorrow. But here they made him look like a psychopathic,sociopathic and sadistic kid with daddy issues. And in Suicide Squad,Joker wasn't done right either. He was more of a crime lord and arms dealer than the King of psychopaths and prince of crime. The only time he did something psychopathic was when he gave Harleen shock therapy, and that was it. And don't even get me started on his tattoos and outfit... If u ask me, The Dark Knight's version of the Joker is THE best. And the Supergirl version of Lex Luthor is awesome!
My favourite scene. The dialogues, the writing, the photography, the acting, the music (thx Zimmer). That's great cinema there. This movie is an underrated masterpiece.
@@bluefiremarkii i mean, he's right, not all cinematic versions have played a Lex Luthor that has shown that level of evil and resentment on Superman, a side from a few
@@bluefiremarkii i mean, it will always be, there they barely have restrains If i wanted, i could make an animated movie centering around a bacon, and everyone will love it Because it's just what it is
If this was any other movie or TV show, this kind of detail would have been praised to high heavens (I've seen that tweet comparing screencaps of Captain Marvel and Black Widow just standing with a dusk background and people going all 'ooohhhh pAraLleLs') but since it's Snyder, people shit on it.
I used to think this version of Lex was weird too, but recently I’ve taken a look at the real eccentric billionaires of our world and realize this version isn’t Al that far off from them
@@drelezar7745 Oh, it very much is Lex Luthor. At the very least, it was by far a more accurate depiction of the character than the Hackman version. Ironically, it was probably John Shea who gave the most comic-accurate version, but Eisenberg embodies the most essential characteristics of Luthor as he would be if he had been invented in the big tech era. At the end of the day, Lex Luthor is meant to represent the polar opposite of Superman - evil, a master strategist, a sociopath, narcissistic, misotheist, and physically weak, with a deep jealousy of anyone who embodies greater power than his own. How Luthor expresses himself within these constraints has varied widely from story to story over the years, but he is more than the bald head (and the supposedly deep, manly voice - even though very few movie/series depictions have portrayed him as such). The reason Lex Luthor has been established at the top of Superman's rogues gallery is because he routinely exploits Superman's one natural weakness - his comparatively lesser intellect. At the end of the day, Superman has god-tier powers, but in terms of his mind, he's just a farm boy from Kansas. He'll often solve problems with his strengths, powers and goodness, but he often falls short when it comes to strategising and thinking more than a couple of steps ahead. The weakest Superman stories are typically the ones where he's all-knowing and morally infallible. BvS was essentially that in a nutshell - Luthor exploiting everything that made Superman human to gain the edge over him.
@@Hei_Darkfire He is. The problem is you grew up with a nostalgic view from the animated series or possibly Smallvill version. This Lex version is a modern take while paying homage to his original debut..
Jesse's Lex Luthor Jr is so damn underrated. The man literally made The Man Of Steel go on his knees without laying a single finger on him. Not to mention he caressed his head like a child.
@@calebx7326 If you are taking Injustice as a reference to say that about Clark, that's a pathetic excuse. No offense. Clark is more resilient than what people lately thinks.
@@j.kaltist.333 He literally isn't. That's quite literally the entire point of Injustice, to show canonically that in the event of Lois being killed, Clarke will no longer be a force for good.
That's because it's a honest take on him. He has super powers but his emotions are as vulnerable as a humans so you get this more realistic take on him. I love him too
@@gianluisaguilar3515 I read somewhere this luthor was a much more manic younger version of him, and after this movie he was going to portray a much more older comic accurate version
When superman says "she's safe on the ground" he actually looks down to check (because he can probably see through the helipad/building) if lois is there at around 1:59
@@pritam9645 Lex told him if he flew away she'd die. So I imagine that he'd have lookouts throughout the city to report if Superman was searching instead of heading to Gotham. That, or he'd secretly rig the location with X-ray detectors and a bomb.
@@pritam9645 Superman actually tried to find her. He flew up to space and tried to listen to everything happening on earth to find his mother but he also started to hear other crimes and horrible things happening in Gotham and other cities. So in order to find his mom, he'll have to ignore other people's issues. So he stopped listening and flew to Batman for help. Unfortunately this scene got cutted out.
Nice detail at 2:37, when he uses his Heat Vision in MoS only his pupils glow, but the angrier he gets in this scene the more his eyes glow, just like Zod's.
Nah when his pupils glow is just the beginning stage of heat vision, basically when it’s like that it’s charging up, and when his whole eyes where glowing that means that his heat vision is ready to be used,
Jesse's Lex was definitely a fun but incredibly risky decision Snyder made. I personally think it was really interesting and philosophical turn here. He is just as conniving as any other version of Lex, but guided by different urges and with different presentation. I love it, its the biggest comic book deviation Snyder has ever done, and i personally like it
It's a masterpiece. A serious movie with a Lord of The Rings Style. And the references about art and legendary movies such as excalibur ALONGSIDE with this magnificent soundtrack? Just amazing
Dude same! I really dug this interpretation of the character. I see so many just jump to the “oh he acts crazy so he should be joker” like ok that’s the most surface level understanding of who Joker is as a character but whatever. The calm calculated Lex Luthor from comics and other medium is great and I hope to one day see it again but the script for this film clearly calls for something different. This is a character unhinged by past childhood trauma, desperately seeking power and wishes to dominate anyone who poses a threat to his power. Superman to him represents the messianic figure that never saved him from his abuse. It’s pretty mature stuff for a comic book movie and a pretty interesting take on the character. I could maybe agree he’s overacting a bit but I feel the acting choices were justified.
Now imagine FLASH in place of SUPERMAN... He would have rescued her mother in an instant and would have had a dinner as well..then he would have told lex to FU..😀😀😀
And I mean it’s kinda realistic to see a young nerdy genius become an extremely rich person now, I’m all for seeing lex Luther like this. Hell even the dean from community would be good possibly
“When you came here, you had an hour. Now, it’s less.” Such a simple line, turned into a work of art by the music. It’s not just the music and it’s not just the line - it’s like they all worked together on that one moment.
I always get goosebumps when Superman flies up and looks down at Luthor "I'll take you in without breaking you which is more than you deserve" My favorite line!
@@dg_537' Superman would rather take Luthor to prison to punish him instead of punishing by himself isn't something' Superman won't do...?? That's called Restraint ...one of the characters of Clark Kent aka Superman
@@Anshumansahu23these morons expect Superman to smile and be jolly when confronting the man who tried to kill Lois 😂 genuinely I don't get what these comic book nerds want
The whole problem with this movie is that there aren’t enough scenes to flesh out Superman as a character. We could’ve had Superman give a heartfelt speech explaining his motivations & why & what he’s doing which seemingly wins him respect, & then the bomb explodes burning down the goodwill he just built. When he comes back from his brief exile he stops at his apartment where he checks his phone to find a message from Lois explaining Lexs whole conspiracy to frame Clark. This is why he’s so enraged when he confronts Lex.
no, looks nothing like him, Leto is ok but the yhave to get rid of the tattoos and make him have the maniacal laugh instead of the subdued one he had in SS
A lot of people (including myself for a while) hated this Lex Luthor, but when you think about it and really take the film on its own terms, he's probably the most successful Lex Luthor ever put on screen. In one movie he: -Figured out Superman AND Batman's secret identities -Successfully manipulated them both and turned them against each other without either of them being the wiser until it was almost too late -Killed a senator who was against him and managed to frame Superman for it -Got his hands on advanced alien tech without too much hassle -Created Kryptonite -Created Doomsday -Made Superman kneel before him WITHOUT using Kryptonite -KILLED SUPERMAN in their first real encounter -Managed to weasel his way out of federal prison by faking insanity and getting sent to Arkham Asylum Hate DCEU!Lex Luthor for his character tics and what have you, but cannot deny he has accomplished more in one movie than most Lex Luthors have across multiple seasons of shows and movies.
This is also a young Lex. He's naive and hasn't made much of a name for himself yet. He also probably needs some medication, which he probably recieved in Arkham. The Lex we see in ZSJL seems to be a much more calm and calculated Lex
I really loved this performance. I just feel like Jesse (actor) just feels the same in the majority of his roles, however he is an incredible actor. This scene is peak tho.
This lex Luthor is a brilliant character, he may not be the cold and composed lex from the comics but it’s such an interesting interpretation of the character
2:25 When lex luthor said "Death by fire" he didn't mean Martha, he mean't supermans real mother that literaly died by fire when krypton was about to be destroyed.
I love how at the start of the scene, Superman is higher than Lex, like it reflects their statuses in that moment, he thinks he’s higher than Lex (I’ve got you, Lois is safe, I’m taking you in), but then Lex is patient and is sitting there like a child and is excited, and he starts talking and they’re on equal ground and Superman says, “What have you done?” Lex mentions that “special lady” when fighting Batman and Superman thinks he means Lois and he’s smiling and thinks he’s still above Lex, but Lex makes his move and it turns out that it’s Martha. Superman then starts to lose his composure and he’s brought to his knees and then finally he almost snaps with his Heat Vision, but he’s able to control himself (testament to his character). Lex then flies away in his helicopter and is higher than Superman. I think that this scene is brilliant and is one of the best in the movie. It’s not a perfect movie but this scene is brilliant. I also like how Lex started the timer at the beginning and kept Superman there for four minutes talking, meaning that he’d less than an hour now, which isn’t fair, but I guess you can chalk that up to saying that God takes sides and how he didn’t think that was fair so this is kind of him getting back at God and not giving him a fair chance, that doesn’t fully make sense but you may be able to get it.
You’re spot on. I also think that the timer indicates how he’s making Superman more human-like since Humans are bound by time. And Superman, being a demigod, isn’t bound by the same principle. This entire monologue is imo one of the greatest movies scenes ever. Not even to mention that insane acting.
@@BLANK-ep8qb That is why I like Cavill after Reeve. We are finally seeing Superman's humanity emerge. Reeve gave his Superman his human side when he starts work at the Daily Planet and asks Mr. White if he can send half his salary to be sent to his mother on a weekly basis. Lois asks "Your bookie right?" Clark says "What?" Lois then says "Don't tell me. He sends a check each week to his sweet gray haired mother." Clark replies "Actually she's silver haired." and Perry reassures him he will do his best and Clark thanks him and Lois says "Anymore at home like you?" Clark replies "Not really no." That is truly human and a loving son
Amazing observation! Damn. That also reminds me of the title of BvS, as the “B v S” was symbolic. Think of the “v” as descending and ascending. So Batman is descending downward the entire movie only to hit rock bottom then he ascends half way through and finally fully ascends after superman sacrifices his life. That's why it's not “B vs S” or “S v B”; it's “B v S” symbolically. Such an amazing and thoughtful film
Just cause some people didn't like your special film, it doesn't make them "haters". Or maybe it does if you want to shut yourself to contrary opinions and pretend only you are right.
Superman (Christopher Reeve) to Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman) in Superman 4 "Well it's common knowledge that you hate children and animals Luthor. What are you doing back in Metropolis?
Yes. The people who can't relate to him just haven't been beaten by their fathers, even though they should have. And they laugh at the ones who have. Aren't they so ugly that it makes you want to rip their throats out? Yes, they are. They know it, too. They just can't admit it because they're liars. You can tell if someone doesn't have sympathy for the oppressed that he's a privileged parasite who would greatly benefit from having some sympathy beaten into him. And then he'll accuse you of having no sympathy, even though has none himself, for anyone but himself. And then he'll insult you for being violent, even though he respects nothing but violence, and would beat you like a dog the moment you stopped being violent unto him. People like this are everywhere now. They're not human, and should not be treated as human. They also insult you if you're peace-loving and non-violent; and take advantage of you if you're kind and sympathetic and innocent; and laugh at you if you tell them to be good. They remind me of my father. They're useless, and god hates them. And if you destroy them and hate them with all of your heart, god will commend you.
R u f fucking crazy. This version feels like they are trying to turn luther into the joker. Lex Luther is a genius but he's not crazy like this depiction. It's trash
How exactly is Jesse good in this role? I don’t know where’s this praise of Jesse Eisenberg’s take on Lex started, but that doesn’t erase the fact that the general audience, including myself despises this version and you wonder why Jesse was awarded as the worst supporting actor in the razzies. This Lex is nothing like in the comics or in animation.
He really thought this through! Manipulating Batman, not learning where the hostage is, finding a weak point in Superman tough self. Luthor really went for the details!
It shows how smart and also twisted Lex is throughout the film, especially when he has Martha kidnapped so Clark will kill Bruce... and also all the actions he did to make the world suspicious of Superman. He planned everything out so well.
@@bluefiremarkii i mean, this Lex is exactly as the one seen in the superman birthright series, and Riddler is not always depicted as an anergetic as this Lex so in reality this Lex is just as a good Lex as an adaptation can be
"If god is all powerful, he can not be all good. And if he's all good then he can not be all powerful." I don’t know about anyone else but this dialogue hits me on the most sane & rational part of my brain.
True. That line was taken from Epicurus and it is one of my favorite quotes: ''Is god willing to prevent all evil, but isn't able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god?!''
@@cristianduta1901 Whoa! That is what we all said in church and then got kicked out. Didn't know it was a quote. Deep sigh. No answers anywhere just observations. Whah whah whah...thanks for the great post! :)
Lol you are given free will to act. Why God should stop you everytime when you're doing something? It's your act. Good or bad. You are the one who makes the decision. If he's gonna stop you everytime then why you should have freewill to act or think? Poor written line.
Overall, I wasn’t a fan of Jesse’s Luthor, but I have to admit he had some pretty good moments. Especially combined with the music, I can’t help but love the “now it’s less”, and also when he falls apart trying to give the speech at the book gala.
Haters: Superman could have just looked for Martha with his abilities Lex: "... if you fly away , Martha dies" Lex probably had people watching superman and ready to notify to kill Martha in case he ever tried to go a direction opposite to Gotham.
@@bluefiremarkii Because superman did not fly any suspicious direction than go back to Lex, who indeed called to give the order but it was too late for him. It was not about them stopping the fight. It was about Superman "flying away" to look for Martha.
@Iron Kanabo isn't it still suspicious that superman is not doing anything, or better yet, if you had eyes on him, how did you not see them stop fighting. Sure they entered a building and you may lose sight, but then what? They just completely forget it.
@Iron Kanabo yeah, but for as convoluted and contingency filled his plan supposedly is and how he has to know how every single person would react to every single thing, just makes it stupid that he misses the fact that martha could be rescued. but its not the biggest annoyance. the thing that shouldnt exist at all is doomsday. i can ignore this while that lives
He hated god because of the abuse he endured at his father hand that he believes the Lord didn't protect home from. If Batman kills him he's all powerful, but not all good, if Superman kills he's all good, but not all powerful
lightning hood see this is why Zemo in civil war is better because he had a reason to hate and I kinda wish we got flashbacks for both of them so we can understand why.
I can't believe that some people still say Lex had no actual motive, because he had one. Lex is a classic misotheist. He loathes God. As he says here, he was abused by his father as a kid and hated God ever since, because he didn't save him. From then on, he knew that if God was all-powerful, he couldn't be all-good. And that if he was all-good, he couldn't be all-powerful. He realized that if God had the will to save him back then, he hadn't the power to do it. And that if he had the power to do it, then he hadn't the will to save him. And now where he has kind of a physical embodiment of "God" in Superman, he's obsessed with the thought of proving to humanity what he discovered as a child. And he won't hesitate one single second to kill dozens of people in order to reach that goal. So, at its core, Lex is a scared and aggrieved child that just wants the world to indirectly see what was done to him by showing humanity that Superman is a hypocrite. That "God" is a hypocrite.
@@mrbluerobin6042 Nah, it is just your typical reinvention of the events by the youtube community. It's been quite a few years now. It happens nearly each time and it's quite funny. People did not say back in the day that this Lex had no motivations, it's... kinda obvious that he has. What people were complaining about is the plot-hole filled plan of Lex, the fact that he randomly managed to use a Kryptonian ship AND to make in less than a day a fucking Doomsday monster. They also complained about the overracting of this actor. That's about it. But now, after a few years, you have your typical "this actor that is overracting is in fact the perfect fit for the role" and "Lex's plan is like, so smart and deep".
@@whatamidoing5656 People beating this movie need to watch The Ultimate Edition. That version is way better than the theatrical and how do I know? I watched both versions on my day off the day after I bought The Ultimate Edition and I love The Ultimate Edition more. That is true Batman vs Superman
I love this movie and scene so much. The way Lex can contend with Superman just through words and psychological manipulation. And his motives were perfectly clear to me. Don’t know why it’s so hard for people to get behind.
I think most people get the message the scene is telling and its a good scene that i think is well written and portrays why lex luthor hates superman. but i think most people problem is lex luthor acting goofy like he is in a Adams west batman show. It could have been better and more effective with a more serious tone.
When Luthor was calculating a foolproof plan to destroy Superman, he remembered the Kryptonite but he forgot to correct for the Ligma factor or the Bofa distortion.
@@axelomorales "abominations" isn't really a word people use to describe getting beat up. It is, however, used alongside words like "defile, violate, sodomize, etc" to refer to rape.
I love the moment where he says, "They need to see the fraud that you are..." it feels like he's actually speaking from the heart and not trying to put a mask over his pain by acting energetic. When you understand his motivation, it is pretty sad.
Yeah, you can truly see the desperate in Lex' face in this moment. In this little moment we see the scared boy who was abused by his father and now sees "God"/Superman being admired as world's savior. He just wants the world to stop looking up to somebody/or somebody of a kind that didn't save him from the abominations of his father ; to stop looking up to a hypocritical "God".
@@filmpalace2426 it also keeps in tone with comic lex goal. He wants the world to stop having to rely on Superman to have to evolve and become stronger. The moment he shows super man that he’s just normal maybe the world won’t have to rely on him and will expand
People tend to not know that this is a young lex luthor, who was a weird erratic evil little twit who did not get that trademark reserve until he was older. This is a great depiction, really.
People often forget that asides from kryptonite, emotions are one of Superman's greatest weaknesses. We see Lex use the latter to his full advantage. He made Superman kneel without even laying a finger on him. But emotions are also very important for Superman because after all, it's the reason he's not a tyrannical god in the first place.
What motivation that his daddy did bdsm on him , he learned 1st year philosphy quotes who believes more on biblical knowledge than science like he should be . Why need to prove superman is not a god and he can die lol people , media r already tearing him apart throughout the whole movie . Its not like he's blue boy scout and he did nothing wrong because zack snyder didnt potray him like he is in comics . Just being crazy is not a GOOD MOTIVATION . even joker wanted to prove something in dark knight but it was never like batman took joker's extreme methods to do something. Its hypocritic
So many pro-Disney/MCU biased people on social media, aka CHILDREN. And among the critics too btw, go read the reviews trashing the movie, you will realize the critics have no clue either.
ARYAN WAYNE not bdsm, abuse. Abuse somebody who how he speaks must have grown up in a religious household and who feels god didn’t do anything to stop it. He wants to prove what he believes about god about Superman since he sees them as almost one in the same. It’s basically therapy for him. Why you people don’t understand anything is beyond me but nice try in either staying ignorant or just lying about his motivation
It's still difficult for me to look at Jesse and say "That's Lex Luthor". But the more I watch him play the role, the more I genuinely do appreciate the effort and skill of his performance. He plays a great villain, even if I can't necessarily say he is my favorite Lex Luthor.
I think this performance would've been more befitting of someone like the Riddler. The combination here of being both in control of the situation while also being utterly unhinged is very befitting of him.
@@jorts_master69 100%, this whole performance screams Riddler to me. It's such a shame. But when I think of Lex Luthor, I think of someone who needs to be physically and mentally intimidating. A man with pure confidence in himself.
@@mikespidle9770 Yeah I think he would've been better played by someone like Michael Fassbender who is really good at giving that creepily cold, calculating aura that Lex Luthor is known for.
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Fun Fact: When Lex says, "When you came here, you had an hour," there is exactly one hour of the movie left.
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Odaaa 😮
Wow
So that's what WB said to zack
@@TheGuyWithABatsuit lmao
“No man in the sky intervened when I was a boy to deliver me from Daddy's fist and abominations”
later on Superman came down from the sky to save Lex from a fist of an abomination
Great observation my friend.
wow
You sir are nice
Best movie!
Yes
This scene illustrates the absolute importance of the secret identity trope when taken seriously, if some sociopath knows who you are outside your costume they can find everyone you love
Exactly. Lex Luthor could literally come out and say his shit in a cheap clown costume that would put Joker to shame, but the fact that he knows Clark is Superman and Bruce is Batman makes him a threat.
Thats why being famous is not really a good idea. You can make lots of money with fame but it also coast a lot, they can kidnap you or ur family. Also lots of girls doing amber heard sfuff nowadays.
It’s why I hate the new Spider-Man movies
@@benjamintyus6957agreed
@@benjamintyus6957 Why? They kept his identity secret
It’s insane how terrifying Henry cavill can be when hes Superman and then how unassuming and gentle he can be a Clark Kent. Truly perfect casting
Watch Reeve as Superman and Clark Kent. Reeve based his Clark Kent on Cary Grant and his Superman he wanted to make human
Dan Castro well that Superman and Clark Kent felt the same. Except one can’t even stand straight and the other is strong. This one you can clearly see the difference. And unlike any other Superman movies, they did something new that’s already done in the comics. Make Superman a lot darker and more powerful because doing the same nice guy Superman saving cats out of trees is shown a thousand times and it’s cliche. And we already have comedy movies from mcu. We need dark superhero movies and dc is here for us.
@@Nemenis Agreed. So many people gripe
That’s excluding Christopher reeves, I believe cavil is the best superman
@@NaughtySnuggles To me Reeve and Cavill are equally the best
“And now god bends to my will”
Gave me chills
would’ve been way better without cringy hyperactive zuckerlex
@@sub-zero5433 I disagree. Jesse did a great job
@@thewateversho223gaming he’s a decent actor, just not fit for the character or what the character was doing
@@sub-zero5433 It's just a "younger" version of Lex. I think that he becomes colder and calculator with time.
Like we see in the post credit scene in Snyder's Cut. He was less frenetic in that scene, after he was in Arkham.
@@ellocosinremedio8569 I haven’t watched the Snyder cut yet I’m just basing it on how I don’t really like the casting, maybe he’ll be better in the future
Sad when you realise these photos are the last time Clark sees Martha before he's back in the Kent farm in JL
Yeah, that's true
Ooo
Oh, shit. So it took that long?
Omfg
DAAAAAAAAAMN...
2:36 "WHERE IS SHE!!" gave me goosebumps and literally the most gruesome quote in dceu and the dialogue hits🫨
Bto turned into batman 💀
@@SILVER_EDITS2swear to me!
"WHERE ARE THEY?!?!"
2:38 *I don't know!*
@@sergiotorresaragon7673Now raahhh
“Mother of god would you look at the time “ ha genius
I barely noticed that after so long xD
@Chuck Haggert can someone explain
@@delphinus5850 yes I agree
@@delphinus5850 mother of god = Martha (superman's mom lol not batman)
There is no mother of God.
I hate that people are saying Superman is being uncharacteristic here. Lex kidnapped his mother. Anyone would be pissed
@@RheemQ He was saying people think Superman getting mad here was uncharacteristic of the character when in reality it was. If someone just told you that they kidnapped your mother and threatened her life, you would of course be filled with rage.
@@thegrimreaper144 people simple are close minded and afraid to get out of their comfort zone try new things, for me this superman is good representation of how he would have been in reality atleast in the world that he is portrayed and to understand him you need to look at him as human first then as superman.
@@ponticpg1295 Exactly. It's crazy to me how this movie gets so much hate over the most absurd reasons. Don't get me wrong, people are entitled to their opinions so they can say that they hate the movie. But as far as I am concerned, this isn't a _bad_ movie. I know a bad movie when I see it. This isn't that. It is a masterpiece.
@@thegrimreaper144 i would say they have the right to their opinion but at the same time their opinion needs to make sense and be valid which most of them arent like: who calls hes mother martha, ohh noo to much destruction,batman doesn't kill etc. Are just stupid opinions, arent valid in any way even if you give them counter argument which easy to give (only from the things i wrote there answers to everyone of them) will simple say excuses or just simple stating again and again their opinion they dont want answer about why this or that they simple want to say their opinion nothing more.
@@ponticpg1295 And I wholeheartedly agree with you.
“WHERE IS SHE?”
“I DON’T KNOW! I would not let them tell me!”
😂 😂 😂
Now raaah if u kill me martha dies, and if u fly away, mm Martha also dies, BUT IF U KILL THE BAT Martha lives
@Noah Davis ah mother of god would u look at the time, when u came here u had a hour, now it’s less
@Informational Reality I get that but I still continue the lines, go pick a fight someone else kid
Luthor is lucky they weren't in an interrogation room for that line...lol
@@sougotokiwa8439 ahhh great Dark Knight reference
"Every boy special lady...is his mother"
That really hit me, I love my mother more than anyone. If anything happens to her. I'll go completely insane.
Yes
Me too. Not even Superman could save her, she died of cancer recently
@@Sillysoft So sorry to hear about your loss.
@@Sillysoftsorry to hear that Nate may her soul be resting peacefully in heaven
@@Sillysofthow are you doing mate
I really like how Lex can be so imposing without being tall or muscular. He controls the situation with his mind.
The mind is the strongest
That's what makes him such a great villain in comics/movies/animations
He did a great job at playing lex luther
lmfaooo
This is _easily_ the all-time worst interpretation of Lex Luthor. It's genuinely embarrassing.
@@BradAaronTaylor But for what Snyder was going for, it works perfectly.
I don't know if my assessment is correct, but I seem to see that Luthor literally trembles in fear in front of Superman, but he manages to maintain TOTAL control of the situation. "And now God bends to my will"
Yeah it’s so interesting how Superman starts higher than lex then begins to be on his knees after hearing about Martha then lex luthor flies off in his helicopter higher than he was before.
Naw its the opposite for me. What makes lex such a powerful character to me is his lack of awarenes.. he's so ignorantly full of himself and thinks based of his intelligence that he is a higher being himself.. that he thinks he can go toe to toe with a godlike man. (Superman) I saw no fear in this lex. And I love it. The scene where Clark yells WHERE IS SHE with his red laser eyes and lex just laughs it off.. You can interpret as lex being scared but I see as him taunting superman and getting a rise out of him and lex gets off on that. This whole scene is lex toying with superman. No fear. Sheesh
2:13 Look at his eyes. So dilated. He's either scared as fuck or tripping balls
To me it looks more like he is excited. Hes got too big ego to fear Superman.
Lex exposed Superman to a weakness far worse than kryptonite. He discovered the best way to hurt Superman is to threaten and hurt those he cares for. Like General Zod in Superman 2 ala the Reeve films says to Ursa "This Superman is nothing of the kind. I discovered his weakness. He cares he actually cares for these Earth people." Ursa asks "Like pets?" Zod replies "I suppose so." and after when Superman flew away after realizing he can't fight Zod, Non and Ursa anymore without risking Metropolis be destroyed Ursa says "Why not increase his handicap. Since he cares so much for these Earth people. Let us take his favorite!" and by favorite Ursa meant Lois
It's so easy. Based on his abusive relationship with his father, Lex understood that powerful beings aren't always good. When it comes to Superman, he hates the idea of having a godlike figure acting as jury on what's good and bad, as that leaves mankind with no choice but to helplessly submit since they don't have a means to stop him. That was the message he wanted to convey with the framings ("God is tribal, god takes sides"), and that feeeling of powerlessness is what he used to fuel Batman's anger.
With this philosophy, he portrays himself to the public as a philantropist, but in reality he's just a power-hungry maniac that wants to vent his resentment at Superman since he represents the godlike ideals he grew to hate.
Yep, he's an aggrieved kid who's been driven into misotheism due to his abusive childhood and now wants to prove his ideology to humanity through Superman.
The fact people didn’t recognize this makes me feel powerful.
Underrated comment
Agreed.
People don't understand this. What they wanted was all superficial, they hated this lex because he was 'odd'. A mind that schemes like this cannot always be as composed as the previous iterations.
For them this concept of lex was Psychotic. Proving that this lex is indeed too big for little minds.
That line where Lex says “If God is all powerful, he cannot be all good. If he is all good, then he cannot be all powerful” such a fascinating line of how Lex often feels inferior to this God of an alien like he often does in the comics and other media. Lex is a self made man whether it be the evil business man in the 80s/90s version to the Tech Tycoon version he is in the modern era of comics.
this isn't his idea, it's well known in philosophy he just stole it.
"Every boys special woman. . . . Is his Mother."
*I mean he ain't lyin.*
Ye bro I love my mom very much
@@mickillafirelive7814 I love my mother as well
I love my mother to bits
In Arab literature their is an Islamic saying
The heaven lies beneath the mothers feets
I love y'all mother's too ♥️
"Every boys special lady, is his mother" you Damm right. Much respects and ups to all the mothers out there
Yeah Norman bates smiles upon
Manfreski i'm sorry your mom didn't love you
Manfreski I mean by those standards, no one creature is good
He's right
But then there’s Eminem’s mom
Lex: “But the mother of a flying demon must be a witch. The punishment for witches, what is that? That's right. Death by fire”. Then lara (real mother of superman) died by fire when krypton is on destructions.
Hol up
God-damn this movie just keeps on surprising me with things I missed
@@Kta8548i same, it's so epic
Man, that's Dark.
Not to be that guy but witches were generally hung, not burned. Still a good scene tho lol
1:58 when henry cavil says “she’s safe on the ground” and quickly glanced down too make sure she still is with his x-ray vision. amazing acting
Shit never thought about that.
Good observation
Holy crap I didn’t realize it until I took closer
I thought he was looking at Lex's feet to emphasize to him that he wasn't standing safely on the ground but atop a building.
@@Shankar-Bhaskar that's what he does. The comment is a stretch lol.
That thunder when Lex says GOD vs MAN
Enough to give chills
1:42
The audio in this movie is insane.
@@omupadhye7921
👍 Record Of Ragnarok is the
inspiration of
Batman
(MAN) vs (GOD)
Superman
My favorite is The Son of Krypton vs The Bat of Gotham
"I wouldn't let them tell me."
That is the only thing that stopped Lex from being melted like an army man.
Superman: RACHEL!!! I mean...MARTHA!!!
LOL
@@sougotokiwa8439 😂😂😂😂😂
"melted like an army man" idk why my mind went straight to the boys, where homelander lasers those army men in his house when he was looking for his son.
In this universe yes. This shitty version of Superman kills.
@@aseem2985 I never saw the boys, but it sounds interesting.
“When you came here, you had an hour!.. now it’s less”
*music intensifies*
Oh snap, an hour? I better hurry then!
That was some gangster ass shit. 😭😭😭
@@Sovereign01 Holy crap!
Is this my mother, Lex?
@@ezelfrancisco1349 Yes...
amazing clark can hear lois in trouble from space but cant hear his mom from the same city
He had some kind of dampening device so he couldn't hear her
@@Tennifries98 was said dampening device mentioned in the movie? i dont recall
@@howkit9028 in one of the interviews they came out and said it
How Kit If Clark couldn't hear Lois when she was kidnapped by Lex's goons, how do you expect him to hear his mom?
@@zhengyingli makes it even worse that he couldnt hear it twice
Too think we’ll never see this version of Superman ever again 😢
stop making me cry.. henry cavill will always be SUPERMAN.
why is DC so shit?
Don't forget this version of lex luthor, Jesse did a good lex luthor one of the only stupid reasons pple hate his lex is cause he did a different type of lex. Fun fact actually, lex luthor was originally like this in earlier superman comics so technically speaking this is a more comic accurate lex luthor
@@CptKeystrokeIndeed. Retrospective reviews of this Lex Luthor are positive. Which makes the haters even more stupid.
@@lucstrik2625 god I loathe this version of Lex. I mean, what is this. It’s like they turned Lex into the Mad Hatter. Thank the lord James Gunn is erasing all of this.
“And now... God bends to my will.”
Hate him or love him this line was pretty badass
2:37 love how he said these lines lol
Indeed
The acting in this scene is very good.
@Maybe its Just me piss off
He wishes.
2:10 I love the way he steps back after seeing those pictures, he's actually scared there, this scene is great
Naturally. Lex did something really deadly to Superman. He didn't need kryptonite to hurt Superman he discovered the only way to hurt Superman was by hurting the people he cared for (Lois and Martha) That Lex Luthor is a diseased maniac
@@dancastro6873 good reference!!
Jesse is a great actor. He's just miscast or given a poor script. Lex Luther isn't psychotic like the Joker. Lex is after wealth, property, power. He is a wealthy criminal genius
Yes, power. Which is exactly what he achieved. He made the man of steel kneel before him
Accurate or not, I really enjoyed this portrayal.
Hinata Uzumaki uchiha no he not he not by a country mile
I agree with u.
Lex Luthor is an evil mastermind, a man after power and knowledge of the unknown. An evil genius.A man who saw himself as the "Savior" of Earth. A man who viewed himself as the Man of Tomorrow.
But here they made him look like a psychopathic,sociopathic and sadistic kid with daddy issues.
And in Suicide Squad,Joker wasn't done right either.
He was more of a crime lord and arms dealer than the King of psychopaths and prince of crime.
The only time he did something psychopathic was when he gave Harleen shock therapy, and that was it. And don't even get me started on his tattoos and outfit...
If u ask me, The Dark Knight's version of the Joker is THE best.
And the Supergirl version of Lex Luthor is awesome!
Read birthright it's pretty accurate
My favourite scene. The dialogues, the writing, the photography, the acting, the music (thx Zimmer). That's great cinema there. This movie is an underrated masterpiece.
I love Hans’s interstellar music
The acting? Hahaha this is a HORRIBLE Lex
The acting is so great Jesse Eisenberg won a razzie award for it! 🤣🤣. You wouldn't know great cinema even if it hit you in the head!
3:34 Holy Crap can we all appreciate how fantastically orchestrated lexs theme is
It's actually a twisted version of superman's theme.
So......yeah.
@@SoudagerAamer It makes sense, Lex is Superman’s opposite!
@@SoudagerAamer is it?
YES not going to lie, Lex Luthor has one of the best villain themes ever!
This Lex is even more evil and smart than any other cinematic version.
He barely exists in cinema as is. But if you include animated cinema
Then WRONG
Are you saying Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor isn't?
@@bluefiremarkii i mean, he's right, not all cinematic versions have played a Lex Luthor that has shown that level of evil and resentment on Superman,
a side from a few
@@adolfogarzachaires394 DCAU will remain superior in my eyes.
@@bluefiremarkii i mean, it will always be, there they barely have restrains
If i wanted, i could make an animated movie centering around a bacon, and everyone will love it
Because it's just what it is
I just realized of all the phrases he used to walk away he said “mother of god look at the time”
Martha is a mother of God...
Dang Zack
Plus she was staring at a timer awaiting her death.
Great crap
Mary is the mother of God
Yep, he’s about as subtle as a first year film student lol
If this was any other movie or TV show, this kind of detail would have been praised to high heavens (I've seen that tweet comparing screencaps of Captain Marvel and Black Widow just standing with a dusk background and people going all 'ooohhhh pAraLleLs') but since it's Snyder, people shit on it.
I used to think this version of Lex was weird too, but recently I’ve taken a look at the real eccentric billionaires of our world and realize this version isn’t Al that far off from them
Eh, I still don’t like this version of Lex Luthor because he’s not Lex Luthor
@@drelezar7745 Oh, it very much is Lex Luthor. At the very least, it was by far a more accurate depiction of the character than the Hackman version. Ironically, it was probably John Shea who gave the most comic-accurate version, but Eisenberg embodies the most essential characteristics of Luthor as he would be if he had been invented in the big tech era.
At the end of the day, Lex Luthor is meant to represent the polar opposite of Superman - evil, a master strategist, a sociopath, narcissistic, misotheist, and physically weak, with a deep jealousy of anyone who embodies greater power than his own. How Luthor expresses himself within these constraints has varied widely from story to story over the years, but he is more than the bald head (and the supposedly deep, manly voice - even though very few movie/series depictions have portrayed him as such).
The reason Lex Luthor has been established at the top of Superman's rogues gallery is because he routinely exploits Superman's one natural weakness - his comparatively lesser intellect. At the end of the day, Superman has god-tier powers, but in terms of his mind, he's just a farm boy from Kansas. He'll often solve problems with his strengths, powers and goodness, but he often falls short when it comes to strategising and thinking more than a couple of steps ahead. The weakest Superman stories are typically the ones where he's all-knowing and morally infallible.
BvS was essentially that in a nutshell - Luthor exploiting everything that made Superman human to gain the edge over him.
It's a good character. It's just not a good Lex Luthor.
@@Hei_Darkfire He is. The problem is you grew up with a nostalgic view from the animated series or possibly Smallvill version. This Lex version is a modern take while paying homage to his original debut..
@@drelezar7745that's because he's Alexander Luthor. And he's basically taken 1:1 from the comics
This is actually one of the best scenes of BatmanVSuperman.
if not THE best
@Rod Serling is Dead Or super speed or x-ray vision...
Jesse's Lex Luthor Jr is so damn underrated. The man literally made The Man Of Steel go on his knees without laying a single finger on him. Not to mention he caressed his head like a child.
Yes and he did what Gene Hackman's Lex failed to do to Christopher Reeve's Superman. Killed Cavill's Superman.
That's because of the writing, it has nothing to do with the actor or the character
@@bogzbiny It certainly does. Every actor has a role to play and if you don't act it right than it'll backfire.
I agree. Even in 2021, I think if the writing of Lex Luthor had matched Jesse's passion for this character, it would've been great.
@@bogzbiny facts he act like this lex luthor isn’t still trash. Anybody could’ve did that in this movie it’s in the script
2:38 lex's reaction always makes me laugh.
I swear 😂
I have had the little noise he makes after on repeat its so funny
i don't know 😂🤣🤣🤣 he know he Will die of he didn't reply his question
"Now Ra..."
lmao
2:37 Henry Cavill sure did a good job delivering that line.
"The mother of a flying demon must be a witch... and the punishment for witches, what is that? That's right! *Death by Fire!* "
CHILLS
I also got chills when Lex mocked Clark by going "Mother of God! Would you look at the time!" as he heads back to the dropship to complete Doomsday.
and that's exactly how superman's by born mother died.
@@supergamer-o4637 ok u saw Canadian lad
@@saiporeddy7303 Me Too
and the background score is too good here
After watching Homelander and Omniman I respect lex luthor and Batman's contingency plans
Superman is not those guys.
@@j.kaltist.333He was given love but love can easily be crushed, like what happened to Homelander and Omniman
@@calebx7326 If you are taking Injustice as a reference to say that about Clark, that's a pathetic excuse. No offense. Clark is more resilient than what people lately thinks.
@@j.kaltist.333 He literally isn't. That's quite literally the entire point of Injustice, to show canonically that in the event of Lois being killed, Clarke will no longer be a force for good.
@@thyreradim7885 Injustice isn't canon. Personally, Kingdom Come would be more accurate.
I love this Superman.
I LOVE HENRY CAVILL 😍
That's because it's a honest take on him. He has super powers but his emotions are as vulnerable as a humans so you get this more realistic take on him. I love him too
@@a.s.y.y5725 Ilove henry cavill is cooooooooooooooooooooool ❤️
Kyle Reese Too dark
@@dynamiczero387 Realistic.
This scene is incredibly underrated. The dialogue and symbolism in this scene😤 and jesses performance 👌🏼
The script in BvS UE is one of the best I have ever watched
this is worst lex luthor , jesse don’t have fault , for me he was perfect for playing the riddler
Yes, this was an amazing scene. The dialog was amazing and the fact that he makes superman bow to him.
@@gianluisaguilar3515 I read somewhere this luthor was a much more manic younger version of him, and after this movie he was going to portray a much more older comic accurate version
This scene is 0/10. Superman would find her mom in a blink of an eye. The threat is a joke.
Every single line of dialogue in this scene is absolutely masterful. This scene as a whole is absolutely incredible in every way.
This movie is incredible in every way*
🙄 no it’s not. This movie is deeply flawed because they made a casting error. They should have picked a better lex Luther.
@@danandhibb goddamn it's idiotic to say a film is deeply flawed because they made a casting choice you didn't like
@@kieroncampionisafuckingidi1328 WhY dId YoU sAy ThAt NaMe
@@bluefiremarkii Shut up
Haters gonna hate, this scene is masterpiece.
The movie is masterpiece, periodt
The whole movie bro
No argument here
Imagine being so childish that a difference of opinion makes you a hater.
@mcm this is Masterpiece, your dead cells can't understand
This is great acting by both especially by Jesse. Underrated indeed
Facts
😚
It's cringy tbh
Dog water movie
@@areebhussain4856 No it's not i like this one out of all the others
“No, every boy’s special lady is his mother.” that hit hard, especially if you been with your mother your whole life, whether or without your dad.
"A punishment for witches, what is that?
That's right, death by fire."
Let's take a moment to remember how Lara died.
Her last name is Lor-Van
Holy shit, goddamn
@@doomsday4311 Why are you so surprised, Mr Doomsday? You killed the last son of Krypton😭
@@I-speak-U-shut-it he didn't kill him...kal killed him😎
@@jimmy2k4o Lara Lor-Van, so they got the name right.
I will never understand why people didn’t like this version of Lex. He’s absolutely brilliant and all his motives make sense.
Because Lex Luthor is not a cartoon.
I understand, but I guess Zack should have asked Jesse to bring down on his energy. It's a well written character tho
Because he’s a character who’s just all over the place
to much like the joker. like an off brand shit version of heaths joker
I think it's the actor that plays Lex that they don't like, which I agree. Mark strong would have made a better Lex Luthor.
When superman says "she's safe on the ground" he actually looks down to check (because he can probably see through the helipad/building) if lois is there at around 1:59
He could also go at sound speed and see by Xray in city, where his mother was. But then movie would have ended.
The guy wouldve fried martha, but yes
@@pritam9645 Lex told him if he flew away she'd die. So I imagine that he'd have lookouts throughout the city to report if Superman was searching instead of heading to Gotham.
That, or he'd secretly rig the location with X-ray detectors and a bomb.
I’m pretty sure it’s just acting, just him looking lex up and down
@@pritam9645 Superman actually tried to find her. He flew up to space and tried to listen to everything happening on earth to find his mother but he also started to hear other crimes and horrible things happening in Gotham and other cities. So in order to find his mom, he'll have to ignore other people's issues. So he stopped listening and flew to Batman for help.
Unfortunately this scene got cutted out.
“You will fly to him, and you will battle him, to the death” no matter what anyone says, this Lex was perfect
Nice detail at 2:37, when he uses his Heat Vision in MoS only his pupils glow, but the angrier he gets in this scene the more his eyes glow, just like Zod's.
Nah when his pupils glow is just the beginning stage of heat vision, basically when it’s like that it’s charging up, and when his whole eyes where glowing that means that his heat vision is ready to be used,
Jesse's Lex was definitely a fun but incredibly risky decision Snyder made. I personally think it was really interesting and philosophical turn here. He is just as conniving as any other version of Lex, but guided by different urges and with different presentation. I love it, its the biggest comic book deviation Snyder has ever done, and i personally like it
It's a masterpiece. A serious movie with a Lord of The Rings Style. And the references about art and legendary movies such as excalibur ALONGSIDE with this magnificent soundtrack? Just amazing
It's not that much of deviation. Only the context is different
And what’s interesting is it was only the beginning. The character development within the Snyder verse wasn’t halfway finished
Dude same! I really dug this interpretation of the character. I see so many just jump to the “oh he acts crazy so he should be joker” like ok that’s the most surface level understanding of who Joker is as a character but whatever. The calm calculated Lex Luthor from comics and other medium is great and I hope to one day see it again but the script for this film clearly calls for something different. This is a character unhinged by past childhood trauma, desperately seeking power and wishes to dominate anyone who poses a threat to his power. Superman to him represents the messianic figure that never saved him from his abuse. It’s pretty mature stuff for a comic book movie and a pretty interesting take on the character. I could maybe agree he’s overacting a bit but I feel the acting choices were justified.
I'm so glad to see all the people in here that appreciate Jesse's Lex as much as I do.
Lex Luthor made Superman go down on his knees without even touching him once. 😶😶😶
As Hackman's Lex once said, "Mind over muscle"
Alexander he shook his hands once in the movie.
Yo!!! My Thoughts exactly, 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
This is the worst lex Luther actor I've ever seen in my life. He looks so pathetic. they casted poorly with him imo.
Now imagine FLASH in place of SUPERMAN...
He would have rescued her mother in an instant and would have had a dinner as well..then he would have told lex to FU..😀😀😀
Man of steel, Batman v Superman, and the Snyder Cut are the best of the best.
Restore the Snyder verse
True
Trash movies, glad DC is over them
I don’t care what people say about this version of Lex, Jesse did one hell of a job in this scene.
And I mean it’s kinda realistic to see a young nerdy genius become an extremely rich person now, I’m all for seeing lex Luther like this. Hell even the dean from community would be good possibly
Cringe
Lex's lines are crazy good
The mind of a psychopathic genius
this movie has amazing ass writers
@@mrj8242 And a diseased maniac with daddy issues
Not really
“When you came here, you had an hour.
Now, it’s less.”
Such a simple line, turned into a work of art by the music. It’s not just the music and it’s not just the line - it’s like they all worked together on that one moment.
I always get goosebumps when Superman flies up and looks down at Luthor
"I'll take you in without breaking you which is more than you deserve"
My favorite line!
🔥🔥⚡️
That's exactly what Superman would not say
@@dg_537' Superman would rather take Luthor to prison to punish him instead of punishing by himself isn't something' Superman won't do...??
That's called Restraint ...one of the characters of Clark Kent aka Superman
@@Anshumansahu23these morons expect Superman to smile and be jolly when confronting the man who tried to kill Lois 😂 genuinely I don't get what these comic book nerds want
The whole problem with this movie is that there aren’t enough scenes to flesh out Superman as a character.
We could’ve had Superman give a heartfelt speech explaining his motivations & why & what he’s doing which seemingly wins him respect, & then the bomb explodes burning down the goodwill he just built.
When he comes back from his brief exile he stops at his apartment where he checks his phone to find a message from Lois explaining Lexs whole conspiracy to frame Clark. This is why he’s so enraged when he confronts Lex.
"She's safe on the ground, how about you?"
Such an underrated line
Id say the actor would do a way better job than jared leto at being the joker
Tommy Wiseau did a better job playing Johnny than Jared Leto at being Joker.
Leto is best 🃏
no, looks nothing like him, Leto is ok but the yhave to get rid of the tattoos and make him have the maniacal laugh instead of the subdued one he had in SS
adarsh tiwari Leto is good. But the worst choice for Joker.
@@pathfinder018 you might've not seen what I wrote ..
Leto is the best 🃏 (Joker)
A lot of people (including myself for a while) hated this Lex Luthor, but when you think about it and really take the film on its own terms, he's probably the most successful Lex Luthor ever put on screen. In one movie he:
-Figured out Superman AND Batman's secret identities
-Successfully manipulated them both and turned them against each other without either of them being the wiser until it was almost too late
-Killed a senator who was against him and managed to frame Superman for it
-Got his hands on advanced alien tech without too much hassle
-Created Kryptonite
-Created Doomsday
-Made Superman kneel before him WITHOUT using Kryptonite
-KILLED SUPERMAN in their first real encounter
-Managed to weasel his way out of federal prison by faking insanity and getting sent to Arkham Asylum
Hate DCEU!Lex Luthor for his character tics and what have you, but cannot deny he has accomplished more in one movie than most Lex Luthors have across multiple seasons of shows and movies.
This is also a young Lex. He's naive and hasn't made much of a name for himself yet. He also probably needs some medication, which he probably recieved in Arkham. The Lex we see in ZSJL seems to be a much more calm and calculated Lex
@@snakevenom4954This is lex junior.
I really loved this performance. I just feel like Jesse (actor) just feels the same in the majority of his roles, however he is an incredible actor. This scene is peak tho.
This lex Luthor is a brilliant character, he may not be the cold and composed lex from the comics but it’s such an interesting interpretation of the character
This Lex is exactly like the lex luthor from the birthright comics
Based on his meeting with Batman i think the loony thing might have just been an act for him.
Dont forget that he's actually young (the character of course, not J.Eisenberg) :) Let's the time do his job
This is his son, not the actual guy
He has a very good charisma
2:25 When lex luthor said "Death by fire" he didn't mean Martha, he mean't supermans real mother that literaly died by fire when krypton was about to be destroyed.
I love how at the start of the scene, Superman is higher than Lex, like it reflects their statuses in that moment, he thinks he’s higher than Lex (I’ve got you, Lois is safe, I’m taking you in), but then Lex is patient and is sitting there like a child and is excited, and he starts talking and they’re on equal ground and Superman says, “What have you done?” Lex mentions that “special lady” when fighting Batman and Superman thinks he means Lois and he’s smiling and thinks he’s still above Lex, but Lex makes his move and it turns out that it’s Martha. Superman then starts to lose his composure and he’s brought to his knees and then finally he almost snaps with his Heat Vision, but he’s able to control himself (testament to his character). Lex then flies away in his helicopter and is higher than Superman. I think that this scene is brilliant and is one of the best in the movie. It’s not a perfect movie but this scene is brilliant.
I also like how Lex started the timer at the beginning and kept Superman there for four minutes talking, meaning that he’d less than an hour now, which isn’t fair, but I guess you can chalk that up to saying that God takes sides and how he didn’t think that was fair so this is kind of him getting back at God and not giving him a fair chance, that doesn’t fully make sense but you may be able to get it.
You’re spot on. I also think that the timer indicates how he’s making Superman more human-like since Humans are bound by time. And Superman, being a demigod, isn’t bound by the same principle. This entire monologue is imo one of the greatest movies scenes ever. Not even to mention that insane acting.
@@BLANK-ep8qb That is why I like Cavill after Reeve. We are finally seeing Superman's humanity emerge. Reeve gave his Superman his human side when he starts work at the Daily Planet and asks Mr. White if he can send half his salary to be sent to his mother on a weekly basis. Lois asks "Your bookie right?" Clark says "What?" Lois then says "Don't tell me. He sends a check each week to his sweet gray haired mother." Clark replies "Actually she's silver haired." and Perry reassures him he will do his best and Clark thanks him and Lois says "Anymore at home like you?" Clark replies "Not really no." That is truly human and a loving son
Amazing observation! Damn. That also reminds me of the title of BvS, as the “B v S” was symbolic. Think of the “v” as descending and ascending. So Batman is descending downward the entire movie only to hit rock bottom then he ascends half way through and finally fully ascends after superman sacrifices his life. That's why it's not “B vs S” or “S v B”; it's “B v S” symbolically. Such an amazing and thoughtful film
Lex Luthor’s balls were utterly large in this scene, even larger than Batman’s 😂.
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That's impossible
Yeah but he acts exactly like joker
Haters: Lex has no motivation in BvS.
BvS:
Well the thing is hes acting too much like riddler
@@abstraction6212 Lex acted like the Riddler in the comics.
@@zhengyingli hmm in the old 60s comics or always?
@@abstraction6212 try reading superman: birthright
Just cause some people didn't like your special film, it doesn't make them "haters". Or maybe it does if you want to shut yourself to contrary opinions and pretend only you are right.
I don’t think this version of Lex is as bad as a lot of people say.
I used to not like him, but then I read Superman: Birthright, and this Lex is basically the teenage Lex from that comic. Gave me a new appreciation.
Me neither, in fact, I love the actor’s performance as Lex
He isnt, people are just entitled brats, kinda like this lex
@@Flipitmixit Don't understand what's so entitled about hating this Lex but I do agree this Lex is misunderstood.
Agree
“No man in the sky intervened when i was a boy to deliver me from my daddy's fists and abominations”
His frustation is relatable
I'm sorry :(
Superman (Christopher Reeve) to Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman) in Superman 4 "Well it's common knowledge that you hate children and animals Luthor. What are you doing back in Metropolis?
Nah, he deserved more.
@@D8W2P4 no one deserves to be tortured like this.
Yes. The people who can't relate to him just haven't been beaten by their fathers, even though they should have. And they laugh at the ones who have. Aren't they so ugly that it makes you want to rip their throats out? Yes, they are. They know it, too. They just can't admit it because they're liars. You can tell if someone doesn't have sympathy for the oppressed that he's a privileged parasite who would greatly benefit from having some sympathy beaten into him. And then he'll accuse you of having no sympathy, even though has none himself, for anyone but himself. And then he'll insult you for being violent, even though he respects nothing but violence, and would beat you like a dog the moment you stopped being violent unto him. People like this are everywhere now. They're not human, and should not be treated as human. They also insult you if you're peace-loving and non-violent; and take advantage of you if you're kind and sympathetic and innocent; and laugh at you if you tell them to be good. They remind me of my father. They're useless, and god hates them. And if you destroy them and hate them with all of your heart, god will commend you.
I can’t believe Lex Luthor made it through the zombie apocalypse
A skeletor boi u dumb😂
I know right major spoilers for zombieland 2 :)
TTV- Impacc- think you’re the dumb one buddy
Twice..
He's in "now you see me" series also
I would love to see Jesse Eisenberg play this role again.
I’m that small majority of fans who actually loved his role & thought he did a perfect job.
We will probably see him in the snydercut
Yes hopefully 😣 I absolutely loved Jesse's Lex.
R u f fucking crazy. This version feels like they are trying to turn luther into the joker. Lex Luther is a genius but he's not crazy like this depiction. It's trash
@@ipie1175 Jesse Eisenberg’s Lex Luthor is based on Birthright Lex, so Eisenberg portrayed him perfectly accurate.
@@ipie1175 personally, I prefere a more entertaining, half-crazy but genius Lex.
The fact that Jessie killed it in this role, shows how versatile of an actor he is.
How exactly is Jesse good in this role? I don’t know where’s this praise of Jesse Eisenberg’s take on Lex started, but that doesn’t erase the fact that the general audience, including myself despises this version and you wonder why Jesse was awarded as the worst supporting actor in the razzies. This Lex is nothing like in the comics or in animation.
@@luisquintero7359it's not Lex Luthor at all.
@@luisquintero7359he might not be lex luthor but he is one hell of a villian
He actually killed the role
@@luisquintero7359 Set aside the fact that he is lex Luthor.
I'm simply appreciating his acting skills
He really thought this through! Manipulating Batman, not learning where the hostage is, finding a weak point in Superman tough self. Luthor really went for the details!
It shows how smart and also twisted Lex is throughout the film, especially when he has Martha kidnapped so Clark will kill Bruce... and also all the actions he did to make the world suspicious of Superman. He planned everything out so well.
"people hate what they don't understand"
Math
Snyder and Warner Bros must really hate DC’s characters, then.
@@uhlan30 Perfect :)
Yeah because they can't control it
How could I forget that quote? It’s one of the most cliched and overused lines in cinema.
2:53 when you want to touch someone hair but you don't wan't your hand to be sticky
Lol
Same thoughts
XDDDD
I would alow that hair stroke for movie purposes
Or greasy XD
I just love the way Luthor says "I DON'T KNOW!" at 2:38 and the noise he makes at 2:40😂
Love the way his laser eyes intensify as his finger approaches him
I love this version of Lex Luthor.
His gestures, his mimic, and his voice is unique
Unfortunately this is more riddler behavior than lex behavior
@@bluefiremarkii that is what he should be!
@@bluefiremarkii i mean, this Lex is exactly as the one seen in the superman birthright series,
and Riddler is not always depicted as an anergetic as this Lex
so in reality this Lex is just as a good Lex as an adaptation can be
He should be more mature, I don’t like how he is more joker like
@@Coolstrongwarriorbro27 Joker wouldn't act like a guy with superiority complex
And try to look like a filantropous
2:07 I love that corrupted variation of “Goodbye My Son”
Yess!!
"If god is all powerful, he can not be all good. And if he's all good then he can not be all powerful."
I don’t know about anyone else but this dialogue hits me on the most sane & rational part of my brain.
Read "God, Freedom and Evil" by Alvin Plantinga.
True. That line was taken from Epicurus and it is one of my favorite quotes:
''Is god willing to prevent all evil, but isn't able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him god?!''
@@cristianduta1901 Whoa! That is what we all said in church and then got kicked out. Didn't know it was a quote. Deep sigh. No answers anywhere just observations. Whah whah whah...thanks for the great post! :)
Lol you are given free will to act. Why God should stop you everytime when you're doing something? It's your act. Good or bad. You are the one who makes the decision. If he's gonna stop you everytime then why you should have freewill to act or think? Poor written line.
@@tissosweet....8638 His daddy beating and abominations as a child is not the child's choice. Your statement is the line that is poorly written.
Overall, I wasn’t a fan of Jesse’s Luthor, but I have to admit he had some pretty good moments. Especially combined with the music, I can’t help but love the “now it’s less”, and also when he falls apart trying to give the speech at the book gala.
Haters: Superman could have just looked for Martha with his abilities
Lex: "... if you fly away , Martha dies"
Lex probably had people watching superman and ready to notify to kill Martha in case he ever tried to go a direction opposite to Gotham.
Then why didn't he kill martha when the two stopped fighting? Plot hoooole
@@bluefiremarkii Because superman did not fly any suspicious direction than go back to Lex, who indeed called to give the order but it was too late for him. It was not about them stopping the fight. It was about Superman "flying away" to look for Martha.
@Iron Kanabo isn't it still suspicious that superman is not doing anything, or better yet, if you had eyes on him, how did you not see them stop fighting. Sure they entered a building and you may lose sight, but then what? They just completely forget it.
@@ronnykazadi352 wrong. He said 2 things. One was flying away. What was the other?
@Iron Kanabo yeah, but for as convoluted and contingency filled his plan supposedly is and how he has to know how every single person would react to every single thing, just makes it stupid that he misses the fact that martha could be rescued. but its not the biggest annoyance. the thing that shouldnt exist at all is doomsday. i can ignore this while that lives
"...and now God bends to my will." Lex basically gives away his end game and yet people are still wondering what his motivation was?
JM NYC yeah his motivation are pretty vague
He hated god because of the abuse he endured at his father hand that he believes the Lord didn't protect home from.
If Batman kills him he's all powerful, but not all good, if Superman kills he's all good, but not all powerful
lightning hood see this is why Zemo in civil war is better because he had a reason to hate and I kinda wish we got flashbacks for both of them so we can understand why.
@@srstriker6420 yeah if I had to choice on whose reason is Better it is zemo, but Lex reason ain't at the realm of possibility
lightning hood who would be Lex's dad? "Bruce Willis"
The script for this movie was way beyond its time.
It wouldn't have even disliked as much if released on Ultimate Edition. All Snyder movies are ahead of their time sadly.
Way too much... This is art at it's finest. People just aren't prepared to watch anything like this yet
Zach's movies just get better in time. At first, people don't like them. Then, as years pass by, they become a fan.
i love when he's like " IDK, i would not let them tell me," man was prepared for the worst case scenario superman would do to him
And if superman did do his worst, Lex would feel like he won since he proved that Superman isn't good
I can't believe that some people still say Lex had no actual motive, because he had one.
Lex is a classic misotheist. He loathes God. As he says here, he was abused by his father as a kid and hated God ever since, because he didn't save him. From then on, he knew that if God was all-powerful, he couldn't be all-good. And that if he was all-good, he couldn't be all-powerful. He realized that if God had the will to save him back then, he hadn't the power to do it. And that if he had the power to do it, then he hadn't the will to save him.
And now where he has kind of a physical embodiment of "God" in Superman, he's obsessed with the thought of proving to humanity what he discovered as a child. And he won't hesitate one single second to kill dozens of people in order to reach that goal. So, at its core, Lex is a scared and aggrieved child that just wants the world to indirectly see what was done to him by showing humanity that Superman is a hypocrite. That "God" is a hypocrite.
EXACTLY!! this lex has the same motives and reasonings as comic lex, people just love to hate
@@mrbluerobin6042 Nah, it is just your typical reinvention of the events by the youtube community. It's been quite a few years now. It happens nearly each time and it's quite funny. People did not say back in the day that this Lex had no motivations, it's... kinda obvious that he has. What people were complaining about is the plot-hole filled plan of Lex, the fact that he randomly managed to use a Kryptonian ship AND to make in less than a day a fucking Doomsday monster. They also complained about the overracting of this actor. That's about it.
But now, after a few years, you have your typical "this actor that is overracting is in fact the perfect fit for the role" and "Lex's plan is like, so smart and deep".
@@tagrerte4701 “typical” huh
How would he let everyone know this
You nailed it with this comment! 🙌🙌 I just love when someone is equally cinema enthusiast as me. You seem to be keen observer and seeker
One of the more underrated movie in all time
I know right, it is so underrated. people have been beating it since 2016, I thought it was a great movie
Maki Nishikino this is amazing
Finally people who actually support this lol.
its like a mmagic done by zack. happened to watchmen too. nobody liked it at first. bt now they love it
@@whatamidoing5656 People beating this movie need to watch The Ultimate Edition. That version is way better than the theatrical and how do I know? I watched both versions on my day off the day after I bought The Ultimate Edition and I love The Ultimate Edition more. That is true Batman vs Superman
“If god is all powerful, he cannot be all good... and if he is all good, than he cannot be all powerful”... damn
you have just discover the epicurean dilemma ?
But by whos logic??
Good, very good so tempting ... except you can still see the flaw in it!
@@Uouttooo There is no flaw in it. It's true.
Injustice
Eisenberg is so unapologetically terrific in his role. Definitely in the top 5 best roles of his!
I love this movie and scene so much. The way Lex can contend with Superman just through words and psychological manipulation. And his motives were perfectly clear to me. Don’t know why it’s so hard for people to get behind.
I think most people get the message the scene is telling and its a good scene that i think is well written and portrays why lex luthor hates superman. but i think most people problem is lex luthor acting goofy like he is in a Adams west batman show. It could have been better and more effective with a more serious tone.
0:22 such an amazing shot.
Their eyes convey so much power. Insane lvl of acting from Cavill and Jesse
1:19 always fascinated by Snyder’s camera work. I dig how he keeps Superman’s crest on the shot.
Lex: “Clark Joe”
Superman: “Who’s joe?”
Lex: *smirks* “Clark Joe mama finna get lit up by my goons.”
brilliant
Bright
Smart
Clever
When Luthor was calculating a foolproof plan to destroy Superman, he remembered the Kryptonite but he forgot to correct for the Ligma factor or the Bofa distortion.
0:42 *"Fists and abominations." Lex's father both physically and sexually assaulted him. No wonder he ended up so full of hate and cynicism.*
Chi Rho I think he was mostly talking about beatings and punchings. Not sexual assault.
Gibson Rocks123 I kind of hope so, but it would make sense if it was.
@@axelomorales "abominations" isn't really a word people use to describe getting beat up. It is, however, used alongside words like "defile, violate, sodomize, etc" to refer to rape.
@@toasterpastries5811 nevertheless its still conjecture
So his father was Kevin Spacey's Luthor??
and until this time, every time i watch it.
this scene and the score in 3:32 still make me chill
3:25 "Mother of God". Lol never caught that before.
Thanks to Zack Snyder , for giving us such an amazing movie 😎
2:53 Literally gave me chills
I love the moment where he says, "They need to see the fraud that you are..." it feels like he's actually speaking from the heart and not trying to put a mask over his pain by acting energetic. When you understand his motivation, it is pretty sad.
That’s literally the part I always come back to this video for. I can really hear the pain and frustration in his voice
Yeah, you can truly see the desperate in Lex' face in this moment. In this little moment we see the scared boy who was abused by his father and now sees "God"/Superman being admired as world's savior. He just wants the world to stop looking up to somebody/or somebody of a kind that didn't save him from the abominations of his father ; to stop looking up to a hypocritical "God".
@@filmpalace2426 it also keeps in tone with comic lex goal. He wants the world to stop having to rely on Superman to have to evolve and become stronger. The moment he shows super man that he’s just normal maybe the world won’t have to rely on him and will expand
People tend to not know that this is a young lex luthor, who was a weird erratic evil little twit who did not get that trademark reserve until he was older. This is a great depiction, really.
People often forget that asides from kryptonite, emotions are one of Superman's greatest weaknesses. We see Lex use the latter to his full advantage. He made Superman kneel without even laying a finger on him. But emotions are also very important for Superman because after all, it's the reason he's not a tyrannical god in the first place.
Critics: But what is his motivation???
Lex: S..seriously? I just bluntly spelled it out in the most on the nose way possible.
Right ?!
Hiky Prime yes
What motivation that his daddy did bdsm on him , he learned 1st year philosphy quotes who believes more on biblical knowledge than science like he should be .
Why need to prove superman is not a god and he can die lol people , media r already tearing him apart throughout the whole movie . Its not like he's blue boy scout and he did nothing wrong because zack snyder didnt potray him like he is in comics . Just being crazy is not a GOOD MOTIVATION . even joker wanted to prove something in dark knight but it was never like batman took joker's extreme methods to do something. Its hypocritic
So many pro-Disney/MCU biased people on social media, aka CHILDREN.
And among the critics too btw, go read the reviews trashing the movie, you will realize the critics have no clue either.
ARYAN WAYNE not bdsm, abuse. Abuse somebody who how he speaks must have grown up in a religious household and who feels god didn’t do anything to stop it. He wants to prove what he believes about god about Superman since he sees them as almost one in the same. It’s basically therapy for him. Why you people don’t understand anything is beyond me but nice try in either staying ignorant or just lying about his motivation
It's still difficult for me to look at Jesse and say "That's Lex Luthor". But the more I watch him play the role, the more I genuinely do appreciate the effort and skill of his performance. He plays a great villain, even if I can't necessarily say he is my favorite Lex Luthor.
Same here
I think this performance would've been more befitting of someone like the Riddler. The combination here of being both in control of the situation while also being utterly unhinged is very befitting of him.
@@jorts_master69 100%, this whole performance screams Riddler to me. It's such a shame. But when I think of Lex Luthor, I think of someone who needs to be physically and mentally intimidating. A man with pure confidence in himself.
@@mikespidle9770 Yeah I think he would've been better played by someone like Michael Fassbender who is really good at giving that creepily cold, calculating aura that Lex Luthor is known for.
You know this is not the main universe of DC right? This is a variation of the universe from the comics. It doesn't matter if this Lex isn't bald.
The Batsignal in the stormy background is my favorite visual of this entire movie.