Hahaha! Literally only just noticed the man himself Sensei Seth with that comment. Golden!! 👏 I saw your vid on ‘best/most effective martial arts’ recently...yeah - it’s a hard pill to swallow, but we ALL know that Muay Thai is THE greatest stand-alone discipline...especially if we narrow it down to stand-up only. Namaste Sensei 🙏
@@whoknows8223 West coast vs “Central Canada”. It’s a 4 to 5 hours flight. I believe Jeff Chan is in Ottawa and Joe Valltellini is in Toronto. Unless it’s a virtual collab, and distance doesn’t matter. Even Toronto to Ottawa is 6 hours drive or an hour flight.
I use both in different situations. After I cut an angle my body is often better positioned for a quick thai side kick. But after missing a roundhouse, I might jam my opponent up if he decides to rush me. There are many more applications for both. Definitely experiment with both.
Muay thai side teep may be faster and longer ranged, but traditional side kick is made for absolute liver destruction. Body sidekick KO's are a thing. I've sure side teep KO's have happened before, but I've never seen one. It's really just a jab or push kick.
Old school Taekwondo side kick has the knee coming forward with hip rotation in the extension! I feel like these are all great tools to have. Throwing the kick that best matches the circumstances you face.
@@paulpelle3046 Part C. Sidekick not Seen Much. GV is correct in that in terms of applicability, the specifics of the technique do make it more time consuming,, more difficult to execute... in abstraction. The basic side kick is a power strike... that is it's proper applicability. It's 'harmonious' usage.🤐🤐
I heavily practice and incorporate both side kicks in training and in my game, and based on my personal experience, the Thai side kick or side teep is better, as what you have pointed out in this video
You must have the most comments-to-views on UA-cam ; ) You're traditional side kick technique is perfect. I'm so envious that you can hold a kick at more than 90 and casually carry on a conversation. I didn't know that the Thai kickboxing style had a side kick. I think its a really effective set-up kick for a spinning kick combo.
Remember you don't have to add the thai side kick and get rid of the karate side kick. Use both! You can see in the fight footage I included in the video that I still use both. Always adding to the technique data base 👌
It would be nice to know in which situations it's good to use thai front and when to use side kick. Side kick is very useful when you miss your low/mid kick as a follow up.
Hi Gabriel. I noticed that you too have bow legs. I have them too, probably the same angle of deviation. Please tell me if they hampered your performance in any way.
Great video! Can't argue with anything you said... Just reasoned facts after facts. But I must add that Karate Sidekick is not designed to start of in a square stance, because mainstream karate fighters never fight on a square stance. That's the reason it doesn't work on a square stance. Kyokushin fighters fight on a square stance, hence why you never see them doing side kicks. The karate sidekick is actually designed for those standing on a side or long stance to be applied against an opponent who stands on a square stance. But on top of that, even mainstream karateka whom stand on long/side stance very seldom use the sidekick for offence, normally defence. All in all, these two kicks look like completely different kicks/techniques. Different techniques requires different methods of setting up.
I've had high success using the traditional side kick countering outside lead leg kicks from my opponents.so they swing for the calf or thigh,I bring up the side kick into their chest.
Thanks for the great video. Coming from a Karate background, the Yoko-Geri is the only sidekick that I have ever known. In the future, how about a detailed instructional video on the Thai Side Kick, perhaps with some drills and/or exercises to improve?
I’m a big fan of the step through/ slide to sidekick. It works great for a tall guy chasing down guys who really disengage or move way back when you attack.
This was highly appreciated 🙏....the thai side kick is my FAVORITE and most utilized weapon, and allows great creativity in my attacks. Very clear analysis 👌
Hehe! Don’t worry bro... I’m 45 and cannot wait for my next fight in front of a big audience...hopefully they’ll actually get my walkout music right next time. Ugh! Extremely annoying and frustrating 🤦♂️ 😡
@Paul Pelle good luck on your fight, i’m 42 with a karate background and now that i’m older i have been learning a little kickboxing to improve my fitness level and martial arts. I put some karate stuff on my youtube page , if you have any pointers for me i would appreciate it. 👍🏽👊🏽
@@oldschoolkarate-5o hiya bro. Sorry, I only just noticed you’d replied. I’m not very good with UA-cam and social media! 🤷♂️ I actually saw your video on the 1, 2 thing. Looked pretty sharp and fast to me sir, bravo. 👏 I would say this though...your breathing. Make sure you’re exhaling as you execute the technique, not after. It’s a really good habit to get in to...even if you don’t ‘feel’ tired. It reminds your body to inhale after, it engages your core for enhanced protection,, and allows you to put more power into your shots. 🙏 I usually match the breathing/grunting depending on the technique I’m executing. E.g. fast jabs...just a ‘tsh tsh’ kinda thing, bigger hits and/or power roundhouses...I give it more ‘unph’. It really helps Mr Muzzey sir. 👍 Also, if you want to get EXTREMELY fit? Ditch the karate brother, and start getting fully into kickboxing at least...Muay Thai ideally, and incorporate running into your fitness regime. I’m fitter now at 45 than I was when I was 25. That’s 100% the truth sir. Oh, and I just recently fought a guy 26 years younger than me (Sunday just gone). But thanks for the good luck message. I might be fighting on another show next month. 💪👌 PS. I also have a background in karate (reached 3rd kyu in my last style). Yeah, at 42? Ditch it man, trust me...it’s not enough. Good luck man 🙏
Very convincing arguments. I'm gonna have to drill this one. I love how such a small hip movement can make such a difference. I see some commonalities with the TKD style side kick I learned as a kid, executed from a front kick chamber. But I can't say I've seen it used like this thai side kick, as you call it. Thanks for this deep dive into the side kick!
A couple of interesting things about side kicks in Karate. One, if you check the old katas (except for the big modified versions in Shotokan), you'll find no actual side kicks or round house kicks, actually most kicks target the highest the mid section and a lot others are foot to leg or knee to body. Two, I believe you can go to a side kick (karate one) directly from the same position as the front kick and rotate sharply, doesn't help with the end of the move. That's why most karate fighters retract and land their front kick right next to the back one after finishing the kick and reshuffle back (tsugi ashi) to re-establish the safe distance.
i get yo point. but i got size 14 feet with really long skinny tows and not very interested in risking them getting jammed or elbowed. the way i do is usually off the front foot above the knee (for safety) screwing the foot in like a thai sidekick but still landing it with the heel. i am 6'6 so the sidekick is long enough. also, the heel gotta be a harder/better area of impact as the ball of the foot feels a bit flimsy. but i get yo point. thanks
Thanks for the great video! In a self defense scenario, which of these side kicks is better for taking out someone's knee? I feel like the karate side kick has a lot of power there, but I'd love to hear thoughts. Thanks!
The teep is more accurate, faster, more efficient... but a well practiced side kick delivered with the heel can KO someone if you get a good liver shot. Check out Wonderboy's sidekick video - he changes the angle of the chamber to make it more hidden and stop it from getting jammed up as easily. They're both great kicks but totally different and have their own use cases, it's like comparing a jab to an uppercut.
I do like to hide my Karate side kick by either pivoting my body with my leg still grounded and throwing it almost as a back kick, instead of chambering -- or by occasionally chambering before dropping my lead leg into a switch kick. The latter has been useful on occasion to make someone second guess whether it's a side kick or a round kick.
I've only done karate, but when I throw a side kick in sparring I throw it the thai way. I didn't learn it that way but it just feels more comfortable. Or sometimes I use a variation of Wonderboys side kick but without the chamber... Just picking the foot up in a straight line toward the target with the hips facing sideways but not bringing the knee out to the side.
As a TKD based kickboxer this kick really jives with my background of deceptive kicks. I'm definitely gonna be trying to work it in more often in sparring
I use the side kick, and you are right about the traditional one. The only problem with the Thai Side Kick, might be hitting an elbow coming in. If I hit the elbow with the bottom of the foot, the damage is spread or the heel can absorb it. The ball of the foot can get painful.
1:46 in, and I’m in danger of being banned, because a teep/push kick is NOT a ‘front kick’, even though it IS technically a ‘kick in front’, it’s such a specific technique that it deserves its own designation. It’s all about the ‘snap’ imho. A true front kick has the snap/flick. A teep is all about weight transfer through the hips and propelled (generally) into the ball/toes of the kicking foot...sometimes the entire flat of the foot if you’re really wanting to push opponents away. Not calling a teep a teep will definitely annoy a LOT of Thais and Muay Thai purists. I also feel it ADDS to confusion Gabriel. Sorry brother...just my opinion 🤷♂️🙏
Gonna have to agree with this. Though no disrespect to Mr Varga here. I've been training Muay Thai a long time and never have I ever heard anyone call a Teep a "front kick", we call it either a "Teep" or a "push kick". Again, no disrespect to Mr Varga. I love his channel and what he's doing with all the content he puts out.
In my old school(karate), they were called push front kicks and snap front kicks. The word teep was never used, but the push front kick was identical. It's purely semantics and it doesn't matter. The terms are basically interchangable. Although you can argue that a cross and a straight are two different punches, a lot of coaches will use them both to refer to the same thing, and some are more specific
@@seedem7861 that’s very bad coaching then tbh. We need specificity of communication in our training...especially when we’re hitting/holding pads. Just call it a teep ffs...we all know what that means, and it shows respect to Thailand and its national sport 🙏
I much preferred the thai variation. After a couple of years of taekwondo, i went to muay thai and found the movements to be easy, relaxed, and natural. I was never able to use the 'foot sword' or 'blade of the foot' in tkd and still cant imagine doing it without twisting my ankle.
Nearly 100k subs? COME ON GABRIEL VARGA! Great stuff. 👏👏👏 I 100% predict at LEAST 250k by this time next year. Let’s all work hard getting this man’s channel known. 💪🤜🤛💥 A TRUE martial artist, sharing knowledge that’s worth a fortune to any martial arts practitioner. We all owe you a lot man 🙏🙏🙏
Thai side kick for me is superior in most situations but in muay thai when you mis a round kick n they charge in thinking youre a sitting duck thats when you murder them with a wonderboy style sidekick
As a strong proponent of muaythai over karate, I must admit that both are just as effective when delivered squarely on target. But the way muaythai fighters are nurtured to be a better fighter than karate fighter, is a fact. Just about all top Japanese kick boxers go to Thailand to further their fight technique.
I was ready to disagree when I read the tittle, but you made some very good arguments. All I'm going to say is that you can generate more power with a traditional side kick, and staying side facing from a karate side kick is fine if you are good at bating people into a reverse turning kick, or back leg turning.
A lot of people call the teep a push kick. But the actual translation from Thai is a stab kick. Stabbing with the ball of the foot has a more piercing force compared to the heel.
‘Teep’ and ‘push kick’ are synonymous bro...and it’s pretty impossible, or at least extremely awkward to attempt a teep with the heel only...unless your using the entire flat of the foot for more surface area(and hence more ‘push’, but less power). Yep, it is a kinda stabbing motion once the weight is transferred through the hips and into the toes/ball of foot. A teep can be thought of as a ‘foot jab’ essentially. 🙏
@@nicksalvatore5717 spot-on brother. Body mechanics. I like a ‘striding/skipping’ sidekick (think Bruce Lee style), but good luck landing it, because you can see it from last month 🤷♂️
I love the Thai side kick as a rhythm disruptor and distance manager, but I'll chime in to say that whether front or side, it's good to also practice landing with the heel/edge because, while you can push someone over with a ball of the foot kick, you can drop them and end the fight with a heel kick, esp. if they are coming forward at the time. Practice throwing it in a little closer than your push kick. You'd be surprised how close you can be and still sneak one in there sometimes. It has its place, it's just not as frequently useful as a push kick. Sometimes what starts as a Thai side kick can end as a hard heel kick, too. You make contact with the toes/ball of the foot on their belly and then if the distance is closing you "drop" the heel onto them with a sudden hard push. Anyway, I'm just saying strike with your heel sometimes too. It's the hardest bone in your body, and you don't have to throw it the traditional, telegraphed way. Sneak it in there.
In ITF taekwon-do it's fairly common to see people use the ball of the foot instead of the heels for the side kick. We usually value range more than power since it's a point based sparring system. What you said about crossing or stepping before kicking, I think this was common some years ago but recently people have been adopting the lift and shift style, where you first lift the kicking leg and then use the supporting leg to slide you in the opponents direction with the kicking leg already chambered and ready to kick. This makes it so that if someone steps forward to try to jam the kick, or try timing your step to hit you when you don't have balance, you're already protected against it. In ITF taekwon-do we use a side-kick that's basically like what you described, with the difference being that we are usually a lot more side-faced than the front-faced muay thai/kickboxing stance since we don't have back and leg kicks that would punish being sideways. Even though it's a different style, the shifting of the supporing foot does work decently in muay thai. Getting used to sliding forward can get people really off guard when they think they're in a safe distance. On the other hand, I've only tested it in muay thai classes where people are nowhere near your level, so I don't know how well it would translate to high level fighting.
mmm the chamber can actually be sneaky too, but not karate wise... try front chamber and as you pivot release the sidekick... the timin is a bit tricky but the kick is great.
To be fair, Gabriel fights in quite square stance so the sidekick is not that suitable for him, just like why we rarely see the sidekick in Muay Thai, hence why he prefer the side teep. Famous side stance fighters like Wonderboy, prime Conor, or the legenddary Bill Wallace himself hidden their sidekicks very well. Every time they chambered the sidekick, it's also look the same as a roundhouse or a hook kick so it's still very hard to see just like a side teep from square stance. Also knee high chamber rarely there in real fights, side stance fighters usually have very short chamber and shoot the leg out instantly. Wonderboy didn't even bother with the knee high chamber, he just lift the heel up first and shove it into the opponent. Also, sidekicks are much damaging than side teep. Side teep is just a longer teep, which only function is to push people away. A sidekick will shove your entire body weight into the opponent through the heel (and not the silly "edge" of the foot) that could crack ribs or screwed up knee joints if aimed down low. Side stance fighters could shoot it out just as fast with almost no telegraph just like square stance fighters shoot out a side teep
I was teaching some (children) beginners today how to do a side kick (traditional karate / taekwondo style). However, a majority of them naturally fired Thai Side Kicks (striking with the ball of the foot and not rotating the hips as fully)! Then, of course, I’m trying to encourage them to pivot their supporting foot, rotate their hips more, flex their foot, and strike with the heal. But now that I think about it, maybe I should encourage their natural propensity towards side teeps. I always thought it’s good to teach beginners the contrast between the vertical front kick and the horizontal side kick. But I’ve noticed that many of the kicks from southeast Asian countries have kicks delivered with a more diagonal foot position. Perhaps you get the “best of both worlds” that way. Oh, I teach JKD btw.
Haven’t even got past intro yet (liked vid already obvs 🤷♂️), but yayyys Mr. Varga. What an awesome topic! 👌 Personally? I prefer the Samart-style of sidekick. Not strictly Thai, not strictly karate, a lil bit TKD, and can be ised in a thousand unexpected ways and speeds. Very frustrating to fight against!!! 🙏
I think the teep and the Thai side kick are like a long jab and the side kick a high risk high reward kick, so yeah, overall Thai side kick is more useful
Again great video :) IMO Only downside with the Thai side kick is you need more flexible hips than in a normal Tip and Regular Sidekick(so not good for all)
Today I learned that I might never have done a real teep, and am just landing a bunch of Thai side kicks. Can confirm, high rate of success. Like, almost every one I commit on thinking I'm teeping. I suck so much at Muay Thai that it's working, apparently.
I would call it a front kick with the standing leg pivot. I believe Bill Wallace threw the side kick with a knee straight up chamber. He also threw the hook and roundhouse from the same chamber. Since you are kickboxing, exposing the back, even a little is a risk so I get using the Thai version. Thank you!
It is definitely possible to start a "karate style sidekick" from a front chamber position. It's more than a little tricky to rotate and then extend from the front chamber though, which probably is why a lot of people prefer the "side chamber" even though it makes the kick a lot more telegraphed (and along with the pendulum step thus perpetuates the myth of "side kicks don't work" because they're easy to spot). It's pretty cool as an additional "mixup" on the front chamber though, as it kind of "masks" itself as a round kick due getting a similar movement profile (shoulder and hip turn etc.).
6:55, pivoting back as you return your leg both motions in the same tempo usually fixes that, i think both have advantages and disadvantages, i do like the full sided side kick ( tkd) simply because i can use more rotation, and more muscles ( the pivot from the ground leg ). yet they are both good.
I really love how all the styles are starting to merge.. I saw this one guy.. either he was a wing chun guy bobbing and weaving or he was a boxer who does chain punches.. haha One day, there will be no more styles. it'll all just be called "striking"
It's just convergent evolution at play. Yes it's a term more used for Animal Evolution, however I and some see it as a universal thing. And this is also another reason why some style have a lot of similarities with each other. Combat Striking systems designed for humans, of course there's going to be some similarites. The thing though is that some become more preferred than others because they're most likely a lot more effective and/or efficient.
Probably a boxer! Some boxers do a sort of “chain punches”, I think i’ve seen Canelo do a repeating left right to the body then left right to the head in an extremely rapid succession. Mike Tyson did this as well. It’s mostly only practical for this application. Another practical application is a blitz of straight punches, left right left right like chain punches but these aren’t intended to land until the last one or two punches.
That’s low key what modern era mma is. We see judo wrestling bjj mixed and it’s all considered to be one thing “grappling” most mma schools teach a Muay Thai and boxing combination as there standard striking curriculum
I think you are right. However I think both kicks have their place and which one you should use depends on a situation. you use tai side kick when you want quick, accurate, long range kick. you use karate side kick when you have an opponent in a position where you are very likely to land a side kick even if you will telegraph it somewhat and this side kick is to deliver lots of damage. (although to do that you must hit with the heel which like you mentioned isn't easy) one thing that I find surprising is that you look at the pendulum type of motion as ineffective. you can get lots of power from pendulum kick. and you don't have to go to the body you can go to the legs instead keeping your opponent guessing. and I see you are in southpaw stance when delivering this kick. Which means that if you are outside of the opponent who is in orthodox stance his legs are significantly less of a threat to you than your legs are to him (of course if he is outside you you are facing the same dilemma)
1. Better distance 2. Hidden 3. Smaller surface area, more damage 4. Post kick, easier to recover 5. Illusion of safety for opponent In Karate's defense, at least for Shotokan every kick starts with a straight knee raise to hide which kick will be thrown ;)
Hey, Gabriel. I know this video is a year old and this has nothing to do with the video, but I noticed how you display those swords in the background. It's better to display them facing blade up, because in that position, it can dull the blade. Not that you're actually using them though lol
1) the slide in gives the regular sidekick more Range. Mythbusted 2) lol Point 2 is also a Point for the Original sidekick. If you get you knee up Nobody can know Whats coming, it can be a Hook, round ore a sidekick. Watch Superfoot Wallace. He was also able to use the sidekick as a jab.
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karate side kick utilizes more hip thus you can generate more power with it, thai side kick might be easier to land but it looks more like a touch than a kick
I always used my side kicks as a jab moreso than to do damage so when I learned about this kind of teep, it was a wrap. I only side teep now when I spar, especially if it's a Muay Thai stylist I'm sparring against
All of what you say is solid though I think you are missing the true value of the sidekick which is in its extreme arch of angular range potential and the ability to create high level illusions like what you spoke to here 8:14 by using feints and level changes along with good footwork. It is an advanced level of technical strategy. The same angles that work to hide a hook or a cross or a jabbing cross such as when doing a check hook/cross/or jabbing cross. You generally can get a low or mid sidekick, also if do a secondary step out to re-angle as your opponent resets the position giving you at least one often times two open target levels either low and high or low and mid. Low often trips the opponent if you land at the knee and push down towards the ankle, mid when you strafe to the left the liver and the right the floating rib and heart if you are into that sorta thing, high is temple jaw or throat for the most part all side profile targets unless they turn to you real quick. You can also use it as a safety/proprioception tool if you have thrown a round kick or front kick or really any kick that leaves your side or back exposed. Also the most powerful illusion that kicks in general provide if you practice the same chamber for every kick. Is the most powerful for full chamber sidekicks because of the fact that the full chamber sidekick is normally slow. The front kick chamber/your Muay Thai leg raise defense, is the best in my opinion. You just turn your hips over and extend the kick as one fluid motion, it can even be a pushing kick or a snap either works. The biggest reason I prefer the front kick chamber is my favorite kick defense has the chance to become a feint that then I can set up high level single strikes or combo blitzes where I create a response and then capitalize on the response. Also it allows for very swift defense to offensive transitions that are so fast and fluid that they almost never fail. Overtime it is also kind of like all of your kicks become ? Kicks in your opponents mind because they have no clue what angle to expect. Another really exceptional technique is skipping, strafing, or jumping of the center line either fully sideways or at an angle backwards or forwards while chambering like almost as if you are walking into the kick so one leg then the other is a phenomenal way to mingle all of the above together to create a powerful sidekick technique to add to the arsenal. The double leg motion or karate kid kick is one to practice daily. Also another of my most effective means of achieving illusory sidekicks is to just do them from any random angle at a bag and off off any other kick or punch just to feel out what are the smoothest transition positions for you and your body. Especially off of kicks and from awkward stances that you end up in because of what ever else you or your opponent has done. So like jumping sidekick right after question mark kick into fade away rightward strafe into spin back kick or even jump spin back kick. Also jumping kicks to reset yourself is a great strategy for early rounds in a fight to establish an expectation of explosiveness in your opponent and then drop it round two slow the pace and keep it on the ground for the most part only throwing them at the best openings and then third round starting out flying in and then slow down then fly in the moment they seem to be comfortable with a rhythm and then just keep that up till you k.o them I think the sheer overwhelm and shock will likely get you a jump attack knockout. In my opinion of course… Just saying… also please bring back the axe a crescent ? Style kicks…! Revive them Gabriel! Revive the axe and the crescent!!! 🪓🌙 😭😭😭 😂
As a Tae Kwon Do stylist,our traditional side kick is different than the karate side kick.We chamber like a front kick then kick while pivoting.it's rather deceptive. I really haven't seen to many fighters fight bladed,maybe Wonderboy?
Superfoot Bill Wallace use to in PKA bouts. He disguised his side kicks with boxing then snuck it in. We don't see it a lot in the MMA realm due to threats of takedowns.
in my opinion, all your points are reasonable and acceptable except point two (3:38). 3:38 Point two: i doubt its fair to compare thai side kick with regular side kick by saying that regular has more body turning, or telegraph, when u start off with thai stance. if u adopt a bladed stance and do a regular side kick, the body turning is negligible.
2:20. Landing with the heel. Every time. Or as much as poss. Jab it into their ribs, sternum, solar plexus , or liver. But what do I know? Again, just my opinion (but have a ‘lifted’ or ‘bladed’ sidekick elbow checked in sparring and you’ll probably agree with me...because it fookin HURTS). Namaste 🙏
Corrrect me if i am wrong, but, the thing Gabriel is that you are not "thai side kicking", you are "thai side teeping" as people told you. The real "thai side kick" looks like the thai round kick at the beginning (during the chambering) but you dont give all your strengh to rotate to make the rotation stop when you are profiling (chest has rotated like 90°), and you extend the leg to maximize the range of you kick, hitting with the ball of the foot and pushing hard. If you start you side kick from front position, LIKE A TEEP, and then you rotate a little to gain extra range (chest has rotated like 45°), then that's a thai side TEEP. ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html (buakaw vs masato 1) 5.04 teep ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html?t=303 4.49 roundkick ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html?t=288 7.04 side teep ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html?t=454 9.47 looks like a switch side kick ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html?t=586
Blasphemy!! 😂😂 great video!
crossover with Gabriel!
@@stanclark3992 hahaha! First genuinely funny thing you’ve ever said here. 👍😆
Hahaha! Literally only just noticed the man himself Sensei Seth with that comment. Golden!! 👏
I saw your vid on ‘best/most effective martial arts’ recently...yeah - it’s a hard pill to swallow, but we ALL know that Muay Thai is THE greatest stand-alone discipline...especially if we narrow it down to stand-up only.
Namaste Sensei 🙏
PS. I’m just waiting for Jesse Enkamp’s arrival now. 😂🤣😆
They work! Haha
This guy has the complete package: the knowledge and great communication and teaching skills. Awesome channel.
It’s easily the best one imho
Agree. Usually great player/fighter isn't necessarily great teacher and vice versa.
@@brilliantz90 Mr. Varga has it all. It’s not even annoying because he’s just soooo fookin humble too. 👏✌️🙏
Id love to see a collab and maybe some sparring with Wonderboy
Would be amazing
Gabriel is Canadian so Collab with Joe Valtellini or Jeff Chan would make sense (no flight)
@@whoknows8223 West coast vs “Central Canada”. It’s a 4 to 5 hours flight. I believe Jeff Chan is in Ottawa and Joe Valltellini is in Toronto. Unless it’s a virtual collab, and distance doesn’t matter. Even Toronto to Ottawa is 6 hours drive or an hour flight.
@@whoknows8223 Potentially. I just think their specific fighting styles would make for a highly entertaining sparring video.
Sure that would be fun,, but Gabriel's pro fighting days are over. Wonderboy has a few more fights.
I use both in different situations. After I cut an angle my body is often better positioned for a quick thai side kick. But after missing a roundhouse, I might jam my opponent up if he decides to rush me. There are many more applications for both. Definitely experiment with both.
Which kick boxing gym do you go too?
I've been watching this change for over a year and half now, Gabriel Varga is an inspiration and great teacher
I agree 100% 🙏
Muay thai side teep may be faster and longer ranged, but traditional side kick is made for absolute liver destruction. Body sidekick KO's are a thing. I've sure side teep KO's have happened before, but I've never seen one. It's really just a jab or push kick.
Old school Taekwondo side kick has the knee coming forward with hip rotation in the extension! I feel like these are all great tools to have. Throwing the kick that best matches the circumstances you face.
Hi Michael. I defer to you on technical expertise... yet chambering is a fluid principle in application. CHEEERS.😔
@@stanclark3992 constantly chambering kicks is a fantastic way to let your opponents know exactly what you’re about to come at them with. 🤷♂️
@@paulpelle3046 Part A. GV. Hi Paul. Say hi to GV for me. And no.🤨🤨
@@paulpelle3046 Part B. Chambering. Sport competitors like GV don't understand the 'principle' of chambering. It's quite brilliant, actually.😯😯
@@paulpelle3046 Part C. Sidekick not Seen Much. GV is correct in that in terms of applicability, the specifics of the technique do make it more time consuming,, more difficult to execute... in abstraction. The basic side kick is a power strike... that is it's proper applicability. It's 'harmonious' usage.🤐🤐
I heavily practice and incorporate both side kicks in training and in my game, and based on my personal experience, the Thai side kick or side teep is better, as what you have pointed out in this video
You must have the most comments-to-views on UA-cam ; ) You're traditional side kick technique is perfect. I'm so envious that you can hold a kick at more than 90 and casually carry on a conversation. I didn't know that the Thai kickboxing style had a side kick. I think its a really effective set-up kick for a spinning kick combo.
Samart Payakaroon had a great Thai side kick.
Hi Gabriel,
I like to push off the planted leg an explosive hopping motion. It's than faster than a crossover step or a pendulum step.
Remember you don't have to add the thai side kick and get rid of the karate side kick. Use both!
You can see in the fight footage I included in the video that I still use both.
Always adding to the technique data base 👌
Absolutely great perspective!
Would live to see a breakdown of fighters that use the sidekick in mma and how to use/not use it!
@@Sophisticlesenergy Samart Payakaroon. You’re welcome 😜
It would be nice to know in which situations it's good to use thai front and when to use side kick. Side kick is very useful when you miss your low/mid kick as a follow up.
Hi Gabriel. I noticed that you too have bow legs. I have them too, probably the same angle of deviation. Please tell me if they hampered your performance in any way.
Great video! Can't argue with anything you said... Just reasoned facts after facts.
But I must add that Karate Sidekick is not designed to start of in a square stance, because mainstream karate fighters never fight on a square stance. That's the reason it doesn't work on a square stance. Kyokushin fighters fight on a square stance, hence why you never see them doing side kicks. The karate sidekick is actually designed for those standing on a side or long stance to be applied against an opponent who stands on a square stance. But on top of that, even mainstream karateka whom stand on long/side stance very seldom use the sidekick for offence, normally defence.
All in all, these two kicks look like completely different kicks/techniques. Different techniques requires different methods of setting up.
I've had high success using the traditional side kick countering outside lead leg kicks from my opponents.so they swing for the calf or thigh,I bring up the side kick into their chest.
Thank you for explaining and good lesson
Thanks for the great video. Coming from a Karate background, the Yoko-Geri is the only sidekick that I have ever known. In the future, how about a detailed instructional video on the Thai Side Kick, perhaps with some drills and/or exercises to improve?
There is already one I believe
As a TKD guy I find this offensive!
*secretly looks up muay thai gyms in the area*
I've never seen this kick but it looks weak. TKD must be weaker.
Haha. Still use the karate side kick.
But try this out too.
Having both in the arsenal is the best option.
@@1x1HealthyEnergybyAndrew Tell me you don't know what you're taking about without saying that you don't know what you're taking about...
I’m a big fan of the step through/ slide to sidekick. It works great for a tall guy chasing down guys who really disengage or move way back when you attack.
This was highly appreciated 🙏....the thai side kick is my FAVORITE and most utilized weapon, and allows great creativity in my attacks. Very clear analysis 👌
Very good points 👌🏿
i’m in my 40s and just learned a new side kick , thnx🙂 now learning how to execute this kick and not pull a muscle is my challenge 🤔
Hehe! Don’t worry bro... I’m 45 and cannot wait for my next fight in front of a big audience...hopefully they’ll actually get my walkout music right next time. Ugh! Extremely annoying and frustrating 🤦♂️ 😡
@Paul Pelle good luck on your fight, i’m 42 with a karate background and now that i’m older i have been learning a little kickboxing to improve my fitness level and martial arts. I put some karate stuff on my youtube page , if you have any pointers for me i would appreciate it. 👍🏽👊🏽
@@oldschoolkarate-5o hiya bro. Sorry, I only just noticed you’d replied. I’m not very good with UA-cam and social media! 🤷♂️
I actually saw your video on the 1, 2 thing. Looked pretty sharp and fast to me sir, bravo. 👏
I would say this though...your breathing. Make sure you’re exhaling as you execute the technique, not after. It’s a really good habit to get in to...even if you don’t ‘feel’ tired. It reminds your body to inhale after, it engages your core for enhanced protection,, and allows you to put more power into your shots. 🙏
I usually match the breathing/grunting depending on the technique I’m executing. E.g. fast jabs...just a ‘tsh tsh’ kinda thing, bigger hits and/or power roundhouses...I give it more ‘unph’.
It really helps Mr Muzzey sir. 👍
Also, if you want to get EXTREMELY fit? Ditch the karate brother, and start getting fully into kickboxing at least...Muay Thai ideally, and incorporate running into your fitness regime.
I’m fitter now at 45 than I was when I was 25. That’s 100% the truth sir. Oh, and I just recently fought a guy 26 years younger than me (Sunday just gone). But thanks for the good luck message. I might be fighting on another show next month. 💪👌
PS. I also have a background in karate (reached 3rd kyu in my last style). Yeah, at 42? Ditch it man, trust me...it’s not enough.
Good luck man 🙏
@Paul Pelle thank you sir, I appreciate your feedback 👍🏽🙏🏽
Very convincing arguments. I'm gonna have to drill this one. I love how such a small hip movement can make such a difference.
I see some commonalities with the TKD style side kick I learned as a kid, executed from a front kick chamber. But I can't say I've seen it used like this thai side kick, as you call it.
Thanks for this deep dive into the side kick!
I’ve actually never noticed this subtle difference before. I’m gonna give it a shot myself for a few weeks.
A karateka who’s fallen in love with Muay Thai like me… and both fans of Buakaw… we are basically the same, except all the belts
Thank you always for knowledgeable information and clear teaching
Check out the Sanda side kick. It works so often it's insane.
Almost got me 1st place in the national tournament.
I’ll check it out bruh 👌
A couple of interesting things about side kicks in Karate. One, if you check the old katas (except for the big modified versions in Shotokan), you'll find no actual side kicks or round house kicks, actually most kicks target the highest the mid section and a lot others are foot to leg or knee to body.
Two, I believe you can go to a side kick (karate one) directly from the same position as the front kick and rotate sharply, doesn't help with the end of the move. That's why most karate fighters retract and land their front kick right next to the back one after finishing the kick and reshuffle back (tsugi ashi) to re-establish the safe distance.
Hi elnibs. Ture.😅😅
i get yo point. but i got size 14 feet with really long skinny tows and not very interested in risking them getting jammed or elbowed. the way i do is usually off the front foot above the knee (for safety) screwing the foot in like a thai sidekick but still landing it with the heel. i am 6'6 so the sidekick is long enough. also, the heel gotta be a harder/better area of impact as the ball of the foot feels a bit flimsy. but i get yo point. thanks
Thanks for the great video! In a self defense scenario, which of these side kicks is better for taking out someone's knee? I feel like the karate side kick has a lot of power there, but I'd love to hear thoughts. Thanks!
The teep is more accurate, faster, more efficient... but a well practiced side kick delivered with the heel can KO someone if you get a good liver shot.
Check out Wonderboy's sidekick video - he changes the angle of the chamber to make it more hidden and stop it from getting jammed up as easily.
They're both great kicks but totally different and have their own use cases, it's like comparing a jab to an uppercut.
I do like to hide my Karate side kick by either pivoting my body with my leg still grounded and throwing it almost as a back kick, instead of chambering -- or by occasionally chambering before dropping my lead leg into a switch kick. The latter has been useful on occasion to make someone second guess whether it's a side kick or a round kick.
Sensei Seth! You are a gas!! Thanks again Gabriel. Love you guys!
I've only done karate, but when I throw a side kick in sparring I throw it the thai way. I didn't learn it that way but it just feels more comfortable. Or sometimes I use a variation of Wonderboys side kick but without the chamber... Just picking the foot up in a straight line toward the target with the hips facing sideways but not bringing the knee out to the side.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!! Much respect Champ!!
As a TKD based kickboxer this kick really jives with my background of deceptive kicks. I'm definitely gonna be trying to work it in more often in sparring
Love Muay Thai ❤️
I use the side kick, and you are right about the traditional one. The only problem with the Thai Side Kick, might be hitting an elbow coming in. If I hit the elbow with the bottom of the foot, the damage is spread or the heel can absorb it. The ball of the foot can get painful.
this guy has no idea i exist; anyways love from Nepal🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵
Have you seen side kicks in Sanda/Sanshou? They’re a thing of beauty.
Someone else has said that here today. Gonna check that out. 🙏
1:46 in, and I’m in danger of being banned, because a teep/push kick is NOT a ‘front kick’, even though it IS technically a ‘kick in front’, it’s such a specific technique that it deserves its own designation.
It’s all about the ‘snap’ imho. A true front kick has the snap/flick. A teep is all about weight transfer through the hips and propelled (generally) into the ball/toes of the kicking foot...sometimes the entire flat of the foot if you’re really wanting to push opponents away.
Not calling a teep a teep will definitely annoy a LOT of Thais and Muay Thai purists. I also feel it ADDS to confusion Gabriel.
Sorry brother...just my opinion 🤷♂️🙏
Gonna have to agree with this. Though no disrespect to Mr Varga here. I've been training Muay Thai a long time and never have I ever heard anyone call a Teep a "front kick", we call it either a "Teep" or a "push kick". Again, no disrespect to Mr Varga. I love his channel and what he's doing with all the content he puts out.
In my old school(karate), they were called push front kicks and snap front kicks. The word teep was never used, but the push front kick was identical. It's purely semantics and it doesn't matter. The terms are basically interchangable. Although you can argue that a cross and a straight are two different punches, a lot of coaches will use them both to refer to the same thing, and some are more specific
@@omegashenron8 yeah bro, that’s all I’m saying. A teep is a very specific thing...and such a lovely small word! 🙏
@@seedem7861 that’s very bad coaching then tbh. We need specificity of communication in our training...especially when we’re hitting/holding pads.
Just call it a teep ffs...we all know what that means, and it shows respect to Thailand and its national sport 🙏
The teep doesn’t need to push to be a teep also teep means stab so you will see more of a ball of the foot then the whole foot
depend on situation..training both kick much be better.
I much preferred the thai variation. After a couple of years of taekwondo, i went to muay thai and found the movements to be easy, relaxed, and natural. I was never able to use the 'foot sword' or 'blade of the foot' in tkd and still cant imagine doing it without twisting my ankle.
Love the look of the ‘?’ Kick. Glaube Feitosa used it brilliantly in K1.
Another great videos from you, well explain.
In Thailand the thai side kick is still called a teep, it's just called teep Chong. Compared to the normal teep we all know and love teep Kong.
I prefer Thai style kicks because the flow is there. Single stage execution
Nearly 100k subs? COME ON GABRIEL VARGA! Great stuff. 👏👏👏
I 100% predict at LEAST 250k by this time next year. Let’s all work hard getting this man’s channel known. 💪🤜🤛💥
A TRUE martial artist, sharing knowledge that’s worth a fortune to any martial arts practitioner.
We all owe you a lot man 🙏🙏🙏
Thai side kick for me is superior in most situations but in muay thai when you mis a round kick n they charge in thinking youre a sitting duck thats when you murder them with a wonderboy style sidekick
As a strong proponent of muaythai over karate, I must admit that both are just as effective when delivered squarely on target. But the way muaythai fighters are nurtured to be a better fighter than karate fighter, is a fact. Just about all top Japanese kick boxers go to Thailand to further their fight technique.
I was ready to disagree when I read the tittle, but you made some very good arguments. All I'm going to say is that you can generate more power with a traditional side kick, and staying side facing from a karate side kick is fine if you are good at bating people into a reverse turning kick, or back leg turning.
A lot of people call the teep a push kick. But the actual translation from Thai is a stab kick. Stabbing with the ball of the foot has a more piercing force compared to the heel.
‘Teep’ and ‘push kick’ are synonymous bro...and it’s pretty impossible, or at least extremely awkward to attempt a teep with the heel only...unless your using the entire flat of the foot for more surface area(and hence more ‘push’, but less power).
Yep, it is a kinda stabbing motion once the weight is transferred through the hips and into the toes/ball of foot.
A teep can be thought of as a ‘foot jab’ essentially. 🙏
I feel the traditional side kick has more power when done correctly
same
Well yes, that’s just due to basic body mechanics
It doesn’t cover the angles that a Thai side kick does, it’s for different purposes
@@nicksalvatore5717 spot-on brother. Body mechanics. I like a ‘striding/skipping’ sidekick (think Bruce Lee style), but good luck landing it, because you can see it from last month 🤷♂️
You’re crushing it.
All your videos are good so far
Thanks for another great video Gabe
I love the Thai side kick as a rhythm disruptor and distance manager, but I'll chime in to say that whether front or side, it's good to also practice landing with the heel/edge because, while you can push someone over with a ball of the foot kick, you can drop them and end the fight with a heel kick, esp. if they are coming forward at the time. Practice throwing it in a little closer than your push kick. You'd be surprised how close you can be and still sneak one in there sometimes. It has its place, it's just not as frequently useful as a push kick. Sometimes what starts as a Thai side kick can end as a hard heel kick, too. You make contact with the toes/ball of the foot on their belly and then if the distance is closing you "drop" the heel onto them with a sudden hard push. Anyway, I'm just saying strike with your heel sometimes too. It's the hardest bone in your body, and you don't have to throw it the traditional, telegraphed way. Sneak it in there.
I can imagine the WB response coming
In ITF taekwon-do it's fairly common to see people use the ball of the foot instead of the heels for the side kick. We usually value range more than power since it's a point based sparring system.
What you said about crossing or stepping before kicking, I think this was common some years ago but recently people have been adopting the lift and shift style, where you first lift the kicking leg and then use the supporting leg to slide you in the opponents direction with the kicking leg already chambered and ready to kick. This makes it so that if someone steps forward to try to jam the kick, or try timing your step to hit you when you don't have balance, you're already protected against it.
In ITF taekwon-do we use a side-kick that's basically like what you described, with the difference being that we are usually a lot more side-faced than the front-faced muay thai/kickboxing stance since we don't have back and leg kicks that would punish being sideways.
Even though it's a different style, the shifting of the supporing foot does work decently in muay thai. Getting used to sliding forward can get people really off guard when they think they're in a safe distance. On the other hand, I've only tested it in muay thai classes where people are nowhere near your level, so I don't know how well it would translate to high level fighting.
hI mARCOS. Stance transition is part of the art. Yes.☺
Cant wait to watch your next fight. It will be like watching my own coach fight :)
mmm the chamber can actually be sneaky too, but not karate wise... try front chamber and as you pivot release the sidekick... the timin is a bit tricky but the kick is great.
I mean, they're wisdom and thank you for that
To be fair, Gabriel fights in quite square stance so the sidekick is not that suitable for him, just like why we rarely see the sidekick in Muay Thai, hence why he prefer the side teep.
Famous side stance fighters like Wonderboy, prime Conor, or the legenddary Bill Wallace himself hidden their sidekicks very well. Every time they chambered the sidekick, it's also look the same as a roundhouse or a hook kick so it's still very hard to see just like a side teep from square stance. Also knee high chamber rarely there in real fights, side stance fighters usually have very short chamber and shoot the leg out instantly. Wonderboy didn't even bother with the knee high chamber, he just lift the heel up first and shove it into the opponent.
Also, sidekicks are much damaging than side teep. Side teep is just a longer teep, which only function is to push people away. A sidekick will shove your entire body weight into the opponent through the heel (and not the silly "edge" of the foot) that could crack ribs or screwed up knee joints if aimed down low. Side stance fighters could shoot it out just as fast with almost no telegraph just like square stance fighters shoot out a side teep
Hi Jake. Yes, there are many dynamics. Pretty good rendition. +2.🙂🙂
I was teaching some (children) beginners today how to do a side kick (traditional karate / taekwondo style).
However, a majority of them naturally fired Thai Side Kicks (striking with the ball of the foot and not rotating the hips as fully)!
Then, of course, I’m trying to encourage them to pivot their supporting foot, rotate their hips more, flex their foot, and strike with the heal.
But now that I think about it, maybe I should encourage their natural propensity towards side teeps.
I always thought it’s good to teach beginners the contrast between the vertical front kick and the horizontal side kick.
But I’ve noticed that many of the kicks from southeast Asian countries have kicks delivered with a more diagonal foot position.
Perhaps you get the “best of both worlds” that way.
Oh, I teach JKD btw.
Haven’t even got past intro yet (liked vid already obvs 🤷♂️), but yayyys Mr. Varga. What an awesome topic! 👌
Personally? I prefer the Samart-style of sidekick. Not strictly Thai, not strictly karate, a lil bit TKD, and can be ised in a thousand unexpected ways and speeds.
Very frustrating to fight against!!! 🙏
I think the teep and the Thai side kick are like a long jab and the side kick a high risk high reward kick, so yeah, overall Thai side kick is more useful
This vid great in my opinion
Again great video :) IMO Only downside with the Thai side kick is you need more flexible hips than in a normal Tip and Regular Sidekick(so not good for all)
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Noice...as I've aged,ahem,but hey I'm 64 so I'm able to perform this version of yoko geri way easier, cheers bro great 👌 video
Today I learned that I might never have done a real teep, and am just landing a bunch of Thai side kicks. Can confirm, high rate of success. Like, almost every one I commit on thinking I'm teeping. I suck so much at Muay Thai that it's working, apparently.
I am a big fan
Thanks for all
Cool video and cool swords ! Do you use them or are they just decorative?
I would call it a front kick with the standing leg pivot. I believe Bill Wallace threw the side kick with a knee straight up chamber. He also threw the hook and roundhouse from the same chamber. Since you are kickboxing, exposing the back, even a little is a risk so I get using the Thai version. Thank you!
It is definitely possible to start a "karate style sidekick" from a front chamber position.
It's more than a little tricky to rotate and then extend from the front chamber though, which probably is why a lot of people prefer the "side chamber" even though it makes the kick a lot more telegraphed (and along with the pendulum step thus perpetuates the myth of "side kicks don't work" because they're easy to spot).
It's pretty cool as an additional "mixup" on the front chamber though, as it kind of "masks" itself as a round kick due getting a similar movement profile (shoulder and hip turn etc.).
6:55, pivoting back as you return your leg both motions in the same tempo usually fixes that, i think both have advantages and disadvantages, i do like the full sided side kick ( tkd) simply because i can use more rotation, and more muscles ( the pivot from the ground leg ). yet they are both good.
I really love how all the styles are starting to merge..
I saw this one guy.. either he was a wing chun guy bobbing and weaving or he was a boxer who does chain punches.. haha
One day, there will be no more styles. it'll all just be called "striking"
It’s just people that separate styles. Styles essentially all have the same techniques.
It's just convergent evolution at play. Yes it's a term more used for Animal Evolution, however I and some see it as a universal thing. And this is also another reason why some style have a lot of similarities with each other.
Combat Striking systems designed for humans, of course there's going to be some similarites. The thing though is that some become more preferred than others because they're most likely a lot more effective and/or efficient.
Probably a boxer! Some boxers do a sort of “chain punches”, I think i’ve seen Canelo do a repeating left right to the body then left right to the head in an extremely rapid succession. Mike Tyson did this as well. It’s mostly only practical for this application.
Another practical application is a blitz of straight punches, left right left right like chain punches but these aren’t intended to land until the last one or two punches.
That’s low key what modern era mma is. We see judo wrestling bjj mixed and it’s all considered to be one thing “grappling” most mma schools teach a Muay Thai and boxing combination as there standard striking curriculum
I've been copying sanda side kick for a while now. 100% agree, the thai sidekick is easier and more effective than the traditional sidekick.
Samart P. Used/teaches that side kick
I think you are right. However I think both kicks have their place and which one you should use depends on a situation. you use tai side kick when you want quick, accurate, long range kick. you use karate side kick when you have an opponent in a position where you are very likely to land a side kick even if you will telegraph it somewhat and this side kick is to deliver lots of damage. (although to do that you must hit with the heel which like you mentioned isn't easy) one thing that I find surprising is that you look at the pendulum type of motion as ineffective. you can get lots of power from pendulum kick. and you don't have to go to the body you can go to the legs instead keeping your opponent guessing. and I see you are in southpaw stance when delivering this kick. Which means that if you are outside of the opponent who is in orthodox stance his legs are significantly less of a threat to you than your legs are to him (of course if he is outside you you are facing the same dilemma)
1. Better distance
2. Hidden
3. Smaller surface area, more damage
4. Post kick, easier to recover
5. Illusion of safety for opponent
In Karate's defense, at least for Shotokan every kick starts with a straight knee raise to hide which kick will be thrown ;)
I feel like you can chamber regularly and still throw a side kick if you practice it enough (you don't need to lift the leg up to the side)
Hey, Gabriel. I know this video is a year old and this has nothing to do with the video, but I noticed how you display those swords in the background. It's better to display them facing blade up, because in that position, it can dull the blade. Not that you're actually using them though lol
Damn that shade at Jessie tho.
1) the slide in gives the regular sidekick more Range. Mythbusted
2) lol Point 2 is also a Point for the Original sidekick. If you get you knee up Nobody can know Whats coming, it can be a Hook, round ore a sidekick. Watch Superfoot Wallace. He was also able to use the sidekick as a jab.
karate side kick utilizes more hip thus you can generate more power with it, thai side kick might be easier to land but it looks more like a touch than a kick
Idk that sanda side kick be slick
[Cung Le laughs in the distance]
I always used my side kicks as a jab moreso than to do damage so when I learned about this kind of teep, it was a wrap. I only side teep now when I spar, especially if it's a Muay Thai stylist I'm sparring against
All of what you say is solid though I think you are missing the true value of the sidekick which is in its extreme arch of angular range potential and the ability to create high level illusions like what you spoke to here 8:14 by using feints and level changes along with good footwork. It is an advanced level of technical strategy.
The same angles that work to hide a hook or a cross or a jabbing cross such as when doing a check hook/cross/or jabbing cross. You generally can get a low or mid sidekick, also if do a secondary step out to re-angle as your opponent resets the position giving you at least one often times two open target levels either low and high or low and mid. Low often trips the opponent if you land at the knee and push down towards the ankle, mid when you strafe to the left the liver and the right the floating rib and heart if you are into that sorta thing, high is temple jaw or throat for the most part all side profile targets unless they turn to you real quick. You can also use it as a safety/proprioception tool if you have thrown a round kick or front kick or really any kick that leaves your side or back exposed. Also the most powerful illusion that kicks in general provide if you practice the same chamber for every kick. Is the most powerful for full chamber sidekicks because of the fact that the full chamber sidekick is normally slow. The front kick chamber/your Muay Thai leg raise defense, is the best in my opinion. You just turn your hips over and extend the kick as one fluid motion, it can even be a pushing kick or a snap either works. The biggest reason I prefer the front kick chamber is my favorite kick defense has the chance to become a feint that then I can set up high level single strikes or combo blitzes where I create a response and then capitalize on the response. Also it allows for very swift defense to offensive transitions that are so fast and fluid that they almost never fail. Overtime it is also kind of like all of your kicks become ? Kicks in your opponents mind because they have no clue what angle to expect. Another really exceptional technique is skipping, strafing, or jumping of the center line either fully sideways or at an angle backwards or forwards while chambering like almost as if you are walking into the kick so one leg then the other is a phenomenal way to mingle all of the above together to create a powerful sidekick technique to add to the arsenal. The double leg motion or karate kid kick is one to practice daily. Also another of my most effective means of achieving illusory sidekicks is to just do them from any random angle at a bag and off off any other kick or punch just to feel out what are the smoothest transition positions for you and your body. Especially off of kicks and from awkward stances that you end up in because of what ever else you or your opponent has done. So like jumping sidekick right after question mark kick into fade away rightward strafe into spin back kick or even jump spin back kick. Also jumping kicks to reset yourself is a great strategy for early rounds in a fight to establish an expectation of explosiveness in your opponent and then drop it round two slow the pace and keep it on the ground for the most part only throwing them at the best openings and then third round starting out flying in and then slow down then fly in the moment they seem to be comfortable with a rhythm and then just keep that up till you k.o them I think the sheer overwhelm and shock will likely get you a jump attack knockout. In my opinion of course… Just saying… also please bring back the axe a crescent ? Style kicks…! Revive them Gabriel! Revive the axe and the crescent!!! 🪓🌙 😭😭😭
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side teep - do you think there is much difference in power and speed?
As a Tae Kwon Do stylist,our traditional side kick is different than the karate side kick.We chamber like a front kick then kick while pivoting.it's rather deceptive. I really haven't seen to many fighters fight bladed,maybe Wonderboy?
Superfoot Bill Wallace use to in PKA bouts. He disguised his side kicks with boxing then snuck it in. We don't see it a lot in the MMA realm due to threats of takedowns.
I wanna see a power test; your thai side vs wonderboy’s side kick.
the sanda side kick is the best compromise between all worlds IMO
no
yes
What are your thoughts about the front Hook Kick, Gabriel? Amazing content as always!!
in my opinion, all your points are reasonable and acceptable except point two (3:38).
3:38 Point two: i doubt its fair to compare thai side kick with regular side kick by saying that regular has more body turning, or telegraph, when u start off with thai stance. if u adopt a bladed stance and do a regular side kick, the body turning is negligible.
2:20. Landing with the heel. Every time. Or as much as poss. Jab it into their ribs, sternum, solar plexus , or liver.
But what do I know? Again, just my opinion (but have a ‘lifted’ or ‘bladed’ sidekick elbow checked in sparring and you’ll probably agree with me...because it fookin HURTS).
Namaste 🙏
Corrrect me if i am wrong, but, the thing Gabriel is that you are not "thai side kicking", you are "thai side teeping" as people told you. The real "thai side kick" looks like the thai round kick at the beginning (during the chambering) but you dont give all your strengh to rotate to make the rotation stop when you are profiling (chest has rotated like 90°), and you extend the leg to maximize the range of you kick, hitting with the ball of the foot and pushing hard. If you start you side kick from front position, LIKE A TEEP, and then you rotate a little to gain extra range (chest has rotated like 45°), then that's a thai side TEEP.
ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html (buakaw vs masato 1)
5.04 teep ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html?t=303
4.49 roundkick ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html?t=288
7.04 side teep ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html?t=454
9.47 looks like a switch side kick ua-cam.com/video/yg6buGfCmyY/v-deo.html?t=586
Just watching your forearms...
Blocked some hard middle kicks in sparring...
Sanda has the best side kick in combat sports
kinda depends on stance
Side teep is great if you can hop into it
Traditional side kick is only risky if you stay bladed cause you're gonna get your leg chopped