The Lost Byzantine Harbour In Cornwall | Time Team | Timeline
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- One summer during the 1980s, strange crop marks appeared in two fields on the north Cornish coast near Lellizzick. Locals have picked up a wealth of 1,500-year-old pottery and metalwork from as far away as North Africa and Turkey.
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Started to study archaeology because of this show, don't regret it a bit
Lucky
Hopefully you'll become a better archaeologist than this motley crew of fools.
That's what they all say until they awaken an ancient curse.
@@Stelios.Posantzis lol...motley!!!! LlllOL
Archaeology is an old profession
Great to see Discombobulated Archeaologists having a great time and spending the time to have fun while recording Human historical evidence for future generations
The Byzantium was the eastern part of the Roman empire that did not crumble "to you and I"!
The empire did well for centuries after the fall of Rome.
i know it is pretty randomly asking but does anyone know a good website to watch newly released movies online ?
This is the most enjoyable history show "ever"
Time team also has their own channel
Ken Burns Civil War, or Baseball are both better, but yes it's damn good.
Time Team is coming back, Channels name is Time Team Official
Makes me wish archeology was this simple in the states
I think it’s a mistake to refer to artifacts as being from Turkey, when in fact they represented the Byzantine era. The Byzantines & Turks are political entities that both occupied the geographical entity of Asia Minor or Anatolia. Asia Minor (geographical entity) is what we call Turkey (political entity) today. The Turks began to occupy Asia Minor/Byzantium in the 11th to 13th centuries, well past Time Team’s focus.
It’s really quite a gaffe
It's a simplification. It's a TV show, not an academic paper.
@@marcelovolcato8892 not an excuse
How do you know they weren't referring to pottery from a specific Turkish region ?
Istanbul is Byzantium!!!!
Another interesting dig. Always enjoy watching how these studies progress.
Calling it "Turkish" is similar to saying an artifact from Louisiana, dating from the 11th century, is French-Creole. It's more like calling something from 9th century Mexico "Spanish" or "New Spanish"
Tony does his best !!!! He was off by only 1,000 years or so.
@@larryzigler6812 He should've known better than this when hosting a history channel.
I know it’s a big fU to the Greeks of Anatolia
@@larryzigler6812 1500!!!
@@TheDomdabomb romans of anatolia
The problems of the 6th century Eastern Roman Empire, which were probably most dangerous (more than those said here) was the so-called Justinianic plague which went hand-in-hand with the Avaro-Slavic invasion in the Balkans. From that time on, with diminished population, and the impossibility to shift the troops from the Balkans to Syria and vice versa, the Byzantines really did have harsh times.
Phil Harding is the quintessential Englishman. You can just imagine his ancestor (who looked like him) at Aquincourt, squinting at the French Knights and telling his boss "Well I can hit them from here, but it will not kill them. Give it another 50 yards and its a different story."
Love this
My dad's ancestors are all from the Newquay and Perranporth area, just along the coast from Padstow. He suffers from hereditary diseases including Bechets. Bechets DNA is from the silk road and the middle east. My ancestors are possibly some of those Mediterranean traders mix with my Cornish ancestors. Newquay and Crantock also port worthy.
the best science here...!!!
'Mixed'. Why do people insist on writing the past tense incorrectly these days?
@@MrSimonmcc Way in the past thing were much better;-)
@@MrSimonmccA lot of people use their phones and it causes autocorrection problems. Also the smaller screens make it harder to see past mistakes and typos.
Tony i such a ball buster in this episode
25:00 props to the spindle animation 👏👏
In the middle of the sixth century, there was also the Justinian plague, which would have spread to Cornwall by the copper/tin trade routes.
Love this show its my snuggle up show most nights hope they can make more thank you for posting this.
Using the term "Turkey" is highly unscientific, as the first Turks (Seljuks) appeared in that region only in the 11th century AD. Geographically its Asia Minor, held by East Roman Empire up to the 12th century.
Is it just me or does Phil look like Farmer Fran from the Waterboy in this episode??😅
This is good because of Tony Robinson and Time Team. Nothing has since matched Timeline because of the personalities involved
Agreed, they really are unmatched
Except for the gung-ho attitude when it comes to to characterising findings.
Hugely disappointing. A mockery of archaeology and scientific research.
They're doing their audience a disservice with this lbullcrap.
Not sure if you know this but stating it just in case; Time Team showed on channel 4 in Britain for 20 seasons and Timeline purchased the episodes to post. It seams a lot of people mistakenly think this is a Timeline product. I have also seen that with many other documentaries they have purchased and reposted. This poster, Reijer Zaaijer, has all the regular episodes and some of the specials and has showed them for years. He even has the four episodes of the American version that did not succeed. Watch them and it's easy to see why.
ua-cam.com/video/yDScJahs4b0/v-deo.html
Also Time Team members and the producer have been buying up and posting the episodes under their own site in HD so people can watch them freely and in order on either site. It's nice to have them labelled by season so you can watch not only the changing of time with the experts and others involved but also how archaeological information and methods have changed over the two decades it aired.
ua-cam.com/channels/vmEISc6e4tLwn8TyS14ncw.html
They have even began taking donations to do other digs with the added benefit of more time to dig and accurately convey information about the site. So far they have funding for two digs and have one ready to go soon.
ua-cam.com/channels/vmEISc6e4tLwn8TyS14ncw.html
ua-cam.com/channels/DvcavTI2xgfXZdF9MaPKIQ.html
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@@Stelios.Posantzisomg get over yourself. This show has brought archeology to the masses. If people want to learn more, than they are free to further their education. If you told people that you'd be watching a bunch of people dig around in the dirt for an hour, there wouldn't be a show.
This show made lots of people passionate about archeology and some went on to become archeologists.
Stop being so snobby.
thank you dan, love history
Francis said sometimes iron age people placed hearths over ancestoral graves. Maybe that's where the phrase "over my dead body" comes from. 🤭
Ok....you're fired.
He actually said, "Hearths", but we know hw thinks they were making iron there.
I love your analysis, though :)
@@eironwyman8157 Good one!
So cool. Fun to watch the process of discovery
Frances Pryor is a gas. His enthusiasm is catching!
Will Phil's hat someday be placed with honor in the British Museum??
Byzantine Empire = Eastern Roman Empire; it "faded" only in the 13th century, its last and biggest city, Constantinople, being conquered by the Ottoman Turks in 1453.
Always a big fan! My favour TV programme on the Dutch tv
41:31 Justinian Plague: Am I nothing to you?
Another wonderful episode - but it’s midly bothersome that no one seems to understand that “Turkey”, “North Africa” and “the Middle East” were ALL essentially still Roman - just what’s correctly referred to as the Eastern Roman Empire.
Such satisfying stratigraphy!
Ok, I’ve watched quite a few of these episodes now and what I’ve learned about archaeology is this, there’s a lot of guesswork, a lot of assumptions to get from point A to point B and finally it’s very very subjective. Nobody really knows.
It sounds like this place was part of the ancient Arms Trade.
After watching 20+ episodes of tt, ive come to realize how important ditches are.
The term Turkish is wrong because the turks lived in meddle east and they started their trading after 1453 when they conquered Constantinople
Thank you.
Enjoy your amphora with the crew.
you never seen it before re papaara!
because it was not turkish 1500 yrs ago!!! amazing brainfizzz!
Hadrianus was turkish too, like...hadrianoglou!
There was NO Turkey in the 5th-6th century!
NONE!! What is this?! Amateur hour?!
There most definately werent any "turks" in asia minor during Justinians reign, but i also dont like this hellinization of the empire during the reign of enperors who werent greek speakers. The empire became hellenophilic during the "macedonian" dynasty which is a few centuries after this!
literally the only man in all of recorded history that used the term "droveway"
The geofiz found Dragon Scale! This is an extrooordinary find! A well preserved dragon burial!
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Very interesting stuff, but I couldn't help but be distracted by the potential of surfing this place.
5th century Turkish ???? Are you joking??? On the 5th century the Turkic peoples slept on there horses and drank out of skulls ...
All accurate
I’m so glad other comments are saying this
Yay !! Baldrick ❤
😗 TWH upload a video
😲 It’s on Byzantine History
🤩 Tony Robinson is presenting
You have a cunning coment
Nice video about lost byzantine hourbores how Archeological method in records history periods trust in studying...thanks for sending
Every time we try to watch one of these I hold out hope that the Time Team men have done something about their talons. Cleaned them maybe, or trimmed ‘em. Or stopped with the finger close ups. Nope.
is it just me, or is the idea people could be cooking dinner on top of granny‘s grave a little strange? Interesting custom, though. Maybe a sort of blessing of the house?
There were no Turks in Anatolia in the 5th and 6th centuries so it couldn't be Turkish pottery.
That’s what I’ve been screaming at the screen too
0:28 hey dont you tell me what to do im a big boy now im 30 i can choose were or i want to enjoy this show..
Can't say they didn't have a great view!
Yes, I think that Stuart has got it backwards; & that the headlands SERVED the village, which was the 'politcal center'. There being no cropmarks on the headlands, to suggest permanent human presence in that area. In my past comment i meant to type GRAZING, not graing.....
Baldrick?
I've been listening his voice and thinkin the same.
Blackadder: the Byzantine Age.
2024. Found a.missed one ! Tx TT
Not even a mention of a pasty!
I love Timeline. Question though exactly how did ya all take your pottery shards and determine the difference between Turkish, African and Welsh pottery?
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They can tell the difference from the form (shape, style and decoration) and fabric (type of clay and mineral inclusions) of the pottery sherds as these are often quite specific to certain time periods and geographical areas.
Timeline seems to have a lot of documentaries that are very careless with facts. This one’s talks about “Turkish” when they mean Byzantine/Anatolian. The last one I saw about Mosquito aircraft talked about “Allied fighter command” when they should reference RAF. If history isn’t fact then it’s fiction. I can only conclude Timeline is not a serious channel.
@44:20, It seems to me that the discussion is so preliminary, that the 3 men overlook the fact that the "Droveway" points also to the 'passage' towards the headlands. Inhospitable to humans, but maybe good graing pastures, for sheep & cattle, who are clad in permanent overcoats which protect them from harsh & powerful winds..... The human residents, could tolerate the conditions long enough to round up, & shepherd their livestock back to their nightly protected paddocks, near the 'village'......
I swear I have already seen this episode. I was hoping for a new one.
That's because it was posted on the Time Team Classics channel like 4 months back
@anonymous drone ...reijer zeijer has them all
Gee that sounds interesting to me. My DNA from 23 and me. Shows slight amounts of south west Asia close to steppes of caucuses and North Africa. But mostly Brittany by 92%. Plus the most recent my grandparents come from south west Britain. At least for my male heritage
Yeah, we sailors get around. I have 2.5% from the city of Tyr. Could have been a slave though
@@vinnartaigh2076 yes I agree. I’m still trying to figure a lot of work out. It really is a life long project lol. We also had family in the navy and merchants.
Is Phil teary eyed,?
Do you have any videos or anything explaining exactly what you mean by "geophys"?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophysical_survey_(archaeology)
0:30 - you're welcome
Earlier tonight I watched this same episode referred to as..."Eastern Roman Empire riches buried in Cornwall". This was presented by Time Team-Odyssey. What gives?
" Spectacular geo-phys "❗ know it's going to be a fun one.
The years 536-545, Climate Disaster; Plague of Julian reached SW England c 543 or so. No more Cornish trading.
I would suggest that area was prone to cyclones. A time period of natural disasters, fish scale pattern construction pulling back and rebuilding.
what is up with three days?
A Big trade center😊
Τurkish pottery from the 5th century? Hardly so.
Ancient Mariners? Did one of them have a rhyme?
It's Greek not Turkish.
That’s cool
Water levels would have been meters lower in the period.
Totally reminded me of Craggy Island and kept expecting to see Father Ted lol
3 days to find out.
Anthea Harris is definitely a very beautiful find
Not time to see the rest.... grabs a shovel and rjun out dig in the garden!!!
It's not turkish, it's roman. This some kind of way to try to please modern day turkey? Turkey as a country is relatively young.
or toni fng with us!!
Well, Byzantine, so still Greek
Ok OK, you’re all right, of course ….. The Byzantine Empire, Byzantium, Asia Minor, Eastern Roman Empire (Anatolia ?) would all be more accurate historically but……..He said “ This is Turkish” . As I understood it , he probably meant modern-day Turkey because it gave the viewers ( who didn’t have all the geo-political-historical knowledge many of you have) a more easily understood location. That’s precisely why the programme was so successful and popular - Tony was a TV actor, (not an archaeologist or historian) who presented the programme from the lay-man’s POV. Let’s not confuse popular TV with serious History Tomes from the library……
“Popular” is not synonymous with inaccurate. If a “foreigner” has a difficult name it’s not acceptable to call him/her Smith.
Have they ever found a chopstick?
The Romans traded everywhere they went so everywhere they had been there were other things from all over their empire.
"no, i was 100% wrong". pigs will fly before we hear a high ranking politician say this....and mean it
Why the artificial time constraint of three days?
Many of those involved are either experts with day jobs on weekdays or diggers working other digs or in college. The idea behind Time Team from the start was to make archaeology accessible to the masses. Thus Tony, who asks the questions and voices the opinions many non- archaeologists at home would ask. The kind of archaeology they are doing is exploratory, finding out the basics, such as the age of a site, the size, what it is, such as an iron age farm or Roman villa, etc. This information is compiled in standard archaeological reports and often leads to further digs or listing of a site.
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They were 'wreckers' not a harbour. Settlements often spring up around dangerous waters.
Omg. Stop saying Turkey. It’s modern day Turkey. It was Greece then
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Byzantine??? It is Roman. What's with Byzantine? It is Roman. Who began calling it Byzantine? When? Why?
It is Roman as in part of the Roman Empire that ruled the entire Mediterranean Sea.
That's history revisionists for you. Happens every 10-12 years... or with every shift in the balance of global political powers.
Almost like watching BBC!
Of course this is to be expected when one hopes to learn history from TV - or worse, on youtube!
Byzantine was the Empire after Rome fell. It was moved to what became Constantinople.
@@charlenelundquist3512 The term "Byzantine" was coined much later after the fall of the empire. Throughout it's life it was called Roman empire and it's inhabitants Romans. Rome fell a few times. The first time it fell it marked the end of what then was the Western part of the Roman Empire. The Eastern part continued to exist for a lot longer. It's capital was the former city of Byzantium which was renamed to "New Rome" by great Constantine People, however, soon started calling it Constantinople or simply "Poli" which means "City".
@@charlenelundquist3512 You do know that under Justinian that they reconquered Rome. Unfortunately the Black Plague wiped out half of Constantinople so the ROMAN army was called back.
""The term “Byzantine Empire” came into common use during the 18th and 19th centuries, but it would’ve been completely alien to the Empire’s ancient inhabitants.""
They spoke Greek in Byzantium
"Turkish pottery" ?? When this traiding post existed, Turks were IN MONGOLIA for God's sake !!! A dislike for this from me
"Turkish pottery" was a very "Baldrick moment" .. Well, it doesn't matter that much, because this program is viewed by people that know a thing or two (probably more) about history, and not by the average dumbo. So they can distinguish the different historic periods and where each tribe resided.
More than I thought! Still don’t like it though
tony asked naomi if he could come in her trench